Free Capture For DV And HDV on Windows 11

[@russclifton6509]

Thank you David, I have over 200 Mini DV tapes that I shot years ago which I want to review. I am putting together a system to record the tapes on to modern drives to review and edit in my new Davinci Studio computer. I am an old guy as my first NLE was a Media 100 system and my second was an Avid DX pro. Best wishes, Russ Clifton

[@johnshinie2415]

Very helpful video is this. I have a pile of DV and HDV tapes that need archiving to hard drive. Thank-you.

[@dvcltd]

Glad it was helpful.

[@romanosaraviadis]

Thank you for this. Sadly technology seems to be passing by these older formats, so it's good to have a way to ''save'' those old videos. Thank you, really..

[@dvcltd]

I don't mind seeing these old formats go. I just want to make sure I can still see everything I filmed on them in the future. My modern camera pictures are so much better and I am glad to see the back of interlaced and non-square pixels.

[@berka05]

I really don´t get it, my camera is recognized by windows when I go into device manager and devices (firewire). Soon as I run WinDV or HDV Split camera is not found, was using some Virtual program the other day and camera was recognized no problem.

[@dvcltd]

What make of camera do you have?

[@berka05]

@@dvcltd If figured it out, everything is fine now, I´m using vx2100.

[@dvcltd]

Today for the first time I had a problem capturing Dv on a 14900KS system with Windows 11 and WinDV. I was using a JVC deck for the first time in ages and WinDV would not capture saying there was an error - "Can't find DV output plugin". When I switched to using a Sony deck it worked. A customer reported something similar using a Canon DV Deck. My working decks and cameras are Sony so maybe there is an issue with other makes? Let me know if you cannot make WinDV work and what deck you have. I suggested to my customer that he used Scenalyzer which I mention in the video and that worked for him. I know I could capture with my JVC deck on a 14900K system using EDIUS 9.

[@romanosaraviadis]

Thanks for the great video. However, I've encountered the following problem. I can't seem to get my computer nad the Camcorder to connect. The camcorder is the Sony DCR-TRV193. It came with an ImageMixer software tha included the USB driver, which unfortunately doesn't work in Windows 11. What would you do in this case, to firstly get the camera and the pc to connect? Thanks in advance, your takes are great.. ; )

[@dvcltd]

@@romanosaraviadis Assuming it is a DV camera you need to connect it by FireWire to a firewire card and use the programs in this video. This is not by USB so those drivers are irrelevant and most computers do not have a FireWire port so you need to add one.

[@albertocollazo9986]

Many thanks David

[@dvcltd]

Glas it was helpful.

[@MarCommMediaInc]

David, you plugged in the gaps in my knowledge since giving up video production several years ago. Thank you for generously sharing your time and expertise! Bob

[@dvcltd]

@@MarCommMediaInc Glad it is useful. It is nice to know these videos help.

[@gpop9878]

Great easy to follow video. For months I've been trying to capture HI-8-DV.HDV camcorder footage. There is conflicting info in that my win 11 with 12th gen CPU PC does not work with HDV SPLIT and WINDV or any other program. It appears its not the version of windows but rather the 12th gen and above cpu's due to intel fully killing backwards compatibility starting with 12th gen processors.Many reports also about this, Other issues I'm told I have a TI chipset firewire card. ? should be a VIA legacy chipset. But that wont work with windows 11. So I am interested in the exact configuration of the PC, cpu generation and what firewire card etc I can not even load my old pinnacle editing software on win 11. With the Date and time format on HDV split I found that confusing in its layout and with no instructions to be found your video was very helpful - pity one cant just type the date in. I used to capture the full AVI files and edit later. My win 11 pro pc came with 14tb hard drives but is effectively useless currently.With the codecs is it not better to download K.Lite basic and select advanced making sure right check boxes are ticked. I've even bought apple thunderbolt 3 adaptors to USB C-about to buy a thunderbolt card compatible with my motherboard and or looking for a laptop /pc with 8th gen CPU with firewire port. But your video has made me think again. Any help greatly appreciated as I'm throwing money away.. I've done the DV/HDV on imaging devices on split with the cam I've even bought 2 old canon HDV 40 camcorders as suspecting the firewire ports are fried. changed firewire cables. When you refer to decks ? meaning camcorders or the expensive Sony standalone devices I've never used. So I'm at a brick wall even travelling 300 miles to get a win XP PC with a matrox rt.x2 firewire card. Does not work. have to get a dvi monitor for that also. Many thanks

[@dvcltd]

I mention inthe video that I had seen reports of FireWire abd TI chipsets not working with 12th gen and above chipsets. All I can say is that for me it does. In the video I am using a 14th gen processor and Windows 11 but I have set up systems using 12th and 13th and captured using FireWire. I also use TI chipset cards. What does not work for me is a Thunderbolt-FireWire adaptor - it has to be a PCIe card in a desktop computer. You also say that you travelled miles to get an old system with RT.X2 and that does not work. Honestly sounds more like your camera/deck firewire out is not working - an old system should work even if 12th gen and above processors do have problems on some systems which I don't get.

[@MarkBlumenthal1]

I have mine working on windows 11 pc, I have a fire wire card I bought off Amazon in 2020 too. There is lots of info out there on win dv. Did you get yours to work? I'm happy to help

[@MarkBlumenthal1]

Exactly, must be proper firewire pci card in desktop computer, not just firewire cable / adapter

[@RR-qq1wl]

Great tutorial. Thank you very much for your efforts. But WinDV capturing is actually lossless? And dv codec and dvsd codec are different?

[@dvcltd]

Yes WinDV is lossless. When capturing through FireWire you are basically transferring a digital signal from one place to another, unlike analogue capture.

[@RR-qq1wl]

@@dvcltd glad to know that 😊, do you have any same solution for vhs capture? By digital signal? Will you make a tutorial please?

[@dvcltd]

@@RR-qq1wl To capture an analogue signal you will need an extra device - I use Blackmagic mainly and they fit inside the computer. Which program you use to capture will depend on what you use to edit. I have made videos about capturing with Blackmagic and Resolve, EDIUS and their own capture program Media Express - which you can see here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGHaZauvfLWHopI .

[@rainbowcolours6876]

thanks man works for me sony handycam hi8 and canon mini dv both working for me thanks

[@dvcltd]

Thanks for letting me know. I think it is JVCs that do not work.

[@davelympany1724]

hi so I have a fairly new laptop with windows 11 do I need appropriate hardware to capture dv videos from my Sony camcorder? also I have usb type C thunderbolt ports if these are any good to use?

[@dvcltd]

In my video I do talk about being able to capture using an external Thunderbolt box which houses a FireWire card. This is the only option you would have but is expensive. It also may not work on your system and some laptops have USB C ports but they do not do Thunderbolt. From some comments I have had below you may also see that soem types of cameras don't work using the programs I have mentioned - although all the Sony cameras I have used do work. If you want to try the Thunderbolt route get the parts from somewhere that you can send then back to if they don't work - I can do this through Amazon. The alternative is get a USB device that lets you capture through SVIDEO or composite and accept a slight quality loss.

[@davelympany1724]

@dvcltd hi many thanks for your reply, yes the usb-C port on the laptop is thunderbolt there are 2 of them, do you have a link I could use to purchase the firewire box from amazon? A few other comments have told me I don't need a firewire card if the laptop has thunderbolt, but I have my doubts as I've been trying it all different ways and cables, any help much appreciated!

[@dvcltd]

@@davelympany1724 Its not a firewire box but a Thunderbolt box with a FireWire card in. This is the one I used: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B083V3DKCN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and this is the firewire card: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08339PGM8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Plus you would need a Thunderbolt cable. There may be some other option that works that I don;t know of, and, of course, I can't promise this will work for you.

[@dvcltd]

Plus you can't just plug a FireWire cable into a Thunderbolt port. Apple did a FireWire to Thunderbolt converter but that is the one thing that does not work for me on new computers.

[@davelympany1724]

@dvcltd hymm ok, I do have a zoomstrom desk top tower but running windows 10, it's not got a firewire card I wouldn't have a clue how to install one lol

[@gpop9878]

Great video but I've bought three canon HV40's most sellers state full working order but know nothing of firewire. When questioned they think just playing the tape is working order. So I've three useless camcorders it seems at a cost of £500. its hard to know if the firewire ports are fried. Its hard to test this for sure. But most second hand cams are 2/3rd user and passed on with bad firewire ports . When you say deck do you mean camcorders or the old expensive Sony specific large tape deck devices that captured tapes only. I've been trying to get one of those. I'm wondering if I should now but a Sony HDV cam. But I've read best to stick with same device tape was shot on. Scott Shramms several videos on you tube seems to confirm win11 /12th gen CPUs intel killed firewire capture. I try and get so fed up leave it again for months before trying again. So many conflicting info out there ive followed. ie TI chipset or via chipset capture cards , 12th gen cpu and above no good architecture changes killing firewire, Apple thunderbolt 3 to usb c adapters £50 the list is long.

[@dvcltd]

As I say in the video the Apple Thunderbolt does not work any more on new chipsets but I have not had any problems. However, all my decks/cameras are Sony - an HDV deck and two sony DV domestic cameras. I have a Panasonic VHS/DV deck combo which also works. I had a customer with a camera we could not get working and some responses here seem to say that some canons do not work. I always use TI chipsets.

[@stuffchat]

Do you have any other way to capture DV and HDV without a firewire card and cable? My laptop obviously supports no such thing anymore so I'm hoping you have some magical answer.

[@dvcltd]

I am afriad not. There are some USB-firewire devices but I have not used these for ages and when I did they were unreliable. If you have a really old desktop PC stick a FireWire card in that and copy the files over to the laptop. The only laptop option that did I work I mention in the video which is an external box which takes PCI cards and connects to the laptop by Thunderbolt. Of course, the laptop has to have Thunderbolt for this to work. It is also costly - the box is £300ish and the FireWire card £30. The other option is to accept some quality loss and use a composite/svideo USB capture device.

[@hurleymediatv]

I lost my ability to use firewire since Windows 10. I have a firewire card, but no drivers for Win 10/11. What firewire card are you using? Make and model...?

[@dvcltd]

The card should have drivers installed automatically. How is it showing up inside device manager? I am using a startech Texas intruments card model : ‎PEX1394A2V2

[@hurleymediatv]

@@dvcltd I'll give it a shot. Thank you!

[@dvcltd]

@@hurleymediatv Did you see in the comments below that since I made the video I may have found problems with different makes of camera - I use Sony and they always work but a Canon may not work any more. I personally do not have any to test.

[@hurleymediatv]

@@dvcltd No, I didn't see that. Thank you! I'm using a Canon Elura 100. I lost the ability to use this after upgrading from Win 7 to Win 10. I have Linux OS installed on that old computer now, so I can transfer DV using that. I just wanted to see if I could get it to work on a modern Windows computer. I'm going to buy the same FW card that you're using, just to see if that works. Cheers!

[@dvcltd]

@@hurleymediatv Let me know here. I don't know for sure it won't work as I have not tested personally but it seems like it from what others have said.

[@javiersua]

Hi David! Great video thank you so much for sharing. I´m in W10 don´t know if this is related but my transfert using Scenes Split on HDV Split worked perfect. I could transfer several old tapes and I´m starting to edit in Davinci 17. Really nice! Apart from this I have a little problem, as part of my "digiticing program" I filmed some old Super8 films using "live capture" from my camera being switched to my pc. I have a 20 minutes m2t but this is not working in Davinci. Any clue on whats happening? Maybe cause it´s not a tape transfer it is not working? Maybe cause of 20 minutes lasting? Anybody knows?

[@dvcltd]

Are you on the free version of DaVinci? I am not sure if it supports M2t files. I know the Studio version does. Does the M2T play in Windows using "film and TV"? If not it may alwo mean you need to install an update for Windows to play M2T files. "film and Tv" would prompt you to install this from the Microsoft store if needed.

[@javiersua]

@@dvcltd Hi! I was doing some test tonight and found out that DaVinci apparently needs some time to "process" the file. I left the clip into the timeline and after a couple of minutes the image was there, I could play the clip and do some edits. So I think there is a matter of file size/lasting. I will keep doing some more tests and will tell if I found out some news. I'm on free DaVinci by the way and can play the m2t files using VideoLAN. Thanks!

[@dvcltd]

@@javiersua I could not remember if the free one did or not - I have Studio which does work. Resolve did not used to be able to open these files and still gets the aspect ratio wrong for me in the Studio version. But at least it is working for you.

[@davelympany1724]

safe site to download WINDV??

[@dvcltd]

That is where I have downloaded it and also the link given by EDIUS.NET in their EDIUS tools.