These "Broken" Combos Don't Actually Work | Yu-Gi-Oh!

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@Catmanjones-
@Catmanjones- 5 жыл бұрын
The entire 7th grade schoolyard meta changed when we learned how Scrap iron scarecrow actually works
@hezhang8843
@hezhang8843 5 жыл бұрын
The good old days😊
@GeneralNickles
@GeneralNickles 4 жыл бұрын
My group never knew how it actually worked. Only one of us actually had it, so we just made him take it out. The biggest thing the changed my school's meta was learning how "once per turn, ..." Effects work. We were under the impression that it meant once per turn, during any players turn. So that means kind pyron becomes super busted when it can inflict 1000 damage for free every turn, especially in duels involving more than 2 people.
@butterlovers2.038
@butterlovers2.038 4 жыл бұрын
The day after I finally got a copy one of the kids came in and told us how it actually works. Young me was pissed
@ambralemon
@ambralemon 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine understanding Gemini cards in 7th grade. I guess that's why I kept winning
@federicopattano1056
@federicopattano1056 4 жыл бұрын
@@ambralemon ikr? i thought you could summon them every turn to get their effects
@wesley5729
@wesley5729 5 жыл бұрын
I used to play flying fish in my deck and since the flavor text said it granted you 3 wishes I thought it was an actual effect. I always wished for something rediculous like giving it a million attack points or even just winning the duel entirely. We were in like 1st grade so none of us knew the rules and thought flying fish was the best card in the game.
@DaBriceisRight
@DaBriceisRight 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best one I've read so far.
@nuurahk83
@nuurahk83 5 жыл бұрын
lmao that flying fish first grade meta
@wesley5729
@wesley5729 5 жыл бұрын
? lol I’m sure we drove the price up on that card by 10 cents
@dogsbecute
@dogsbecute 4 жыл бұрын
lmaoooo "i wish i will win this duel" LMAO tahts some real first grade shit right there. Reminds me of the OG pokemon tcg, i had a holographic Weezing with the move "Self Destruct" that did more damage based on the number of koffings you had. I filled my deck with 7 koffings and everytime id use self destruct, i won the battle and my opponents rarest card. None of us realized A) I can only have 3 koffings and B) IM literally SELF DESTRUCTING
@Lazar-TS
@Lazar-TS 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that is actually hilarious.
@R3ini3r525
@R3ini3r525 5 жыл бұрын
"When...You can..." *Cries in Peten the Dark Clown*
@gurasbutt2033
@gurasbutt2033 5 жыл бұрын
Also cries in Yang Zing's. Why does the other 3 arch types that came out in that set not miss timing?
@ace-trainer-aj
@ace-trainer-aj 5 жыл бұрын
Cries in pre errata Dark Magician of Chaos when Special Summoned with the effect of Magical Dimension and used the effect to destroy one monster.
@glozone-718
@glozone-718 5 жыл бұрын
Dupe frog send for link summon rip
@PhilkneD
@PhilkneD 5 жыл бұрын
@@glozone-718 you mean Dupe Frog
@glozone-718
@glozone-718 5 жыл бұрын
@@PhilkneD Yeah i changed it
@Raminator243
@Raminator243 5 жыл бұрын
*team samuraix1 has left the chat*
@kingmatthew3458
@kingmatthew3458 5 жыл бұрын
Ramekbal Singh he’s overrated and annoying these days
@DanielFlores-fo1ee
@DanielFlores-fo1ee 5 жыл бұрын
@@kingmatthew3458 You're overrated and annoying.
@takara111
@takara111 5 жыл бұрын
@@DanielFlores-fo1ee Lol we found the salty fanboy
@DirkLasermaster
@DirkLasermaster 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingmatthew3458 OOOOHHHH!! OH MY GOD! ****BEST****
@so0meone
@so0meone 5 жыл бұрын
"Dark Worlds don't trigger when discarded for a cost" *Laughs in Fabled*
@theotakuwolf8573
@theotakuwolf8573 4 жыл бұрын
some fableds miss timing tho......
@zombiegod34
@zombiegod34 4 жыл бұрын
plus i'd argue that fables are not as good as dark worlds like cool you can use cards that discard for costs but my dark world cards are generally better
@rescuerex7031
@rescuerex7031 4 жыл бұрын
@@zombiegod34 don't forget Danger!!!!!!!!!‽
@babysinclairfan
@babysinclairfan 5 жыл бұрын
I actually remember that shien argument from back on the day. It's how I learned the difference between "negate activation" and "negate effect"
@Crimzonbreaker
@Crimzonbreaker 5 жыл бұрын
babysinclairfan When I was playing budget my friend thought he could lock me out of spells with Shien board. I had to explain that when a activation is negated it no longer counts as a "once per turn"
@CmdrJay72
@CmdrJay72 5 жыл бұрын
This popped up in Duel Links.
@jaafarmhasan8713
@jaafarmhasan8713 5 жыл бұрын
✋Wait Can Someone Explain?
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla 5 жыл бұрын
Great Shogun says you can activate 1 spell/trap a turn. If you attempt to activate one but that activation is negated by the synchro, then you have not actually activated any spell/trap so far, and still have 1 more you can activate.
@jaafarmhasan8713
@jaafarmhasan8713 5 жыл бұрын
@@chompyzilla ok cool I got that. But what's the difference between Negate The Activation and Negate The Effect?
@ace-trainer-aj
@ace-trainer-aj 5 жыл бұрын
Easy way to explain the timing. "If A, you can B", as long as the condition A happens, you can activate the effect B. "When A, you can B", A has to be the last thing happening in order to activate the effect B. If an event (chain or not) occurs which causes the condition A to not be the last thing happening, the effect B will miss the timing.
@JBergmansson
@JBergmansson 4 жыл бұрын
@Galaspark Mtg's stack seems like such and obviuos solution, but as Yu-Gi-Oh and other games display, it really is not.
@KidKatastrophe2314
@KidKatastrophe2314 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that Giant Trunade returned itself to my hand so I could keep using it.
@genial24
@genial24 4 жыл бұрын
Well is ban now so it's a really powerful card either way
@ravenknightvincent2722
@ravenknightvincent2722 4 жыл бұрын
I do want to know which rule in the rulebook prevented that from happening.
@genial24
@genial24 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravenknightvincent2722 I always thought of spell cards function as ammo once you use it is discarded
@leoleo1035
@leoleo1035 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravenknightvincent2722 Spells don't consider themselves on board when activated. If they would you could MST your own MST.
@paradoxzee6834
@paradoxzee6834 4 жыл бұрын
@@leoleo1035 Why would you MST your own MST?
@oliaustfjor6247
@oliaustfjor6247 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised about that Scrap Iron Scarecrow one. of course, myself, an intellectual watched the 5D's anime, so It was quite obvious to me.
@PKMNwater
@PKMNwater 5 жыл бұрын
It was just a common misconception in schoolyard duels that trap cards just couldn't be activated on the turn YOU set them, and/or the set same turn rule only applied when it was your turn. If the card was re-setting itself on your opponent's turn, the misconception made it infinitely reactivat-able. I'm sure there's an anime misuse of a similar card that led to prevalence of this misconception, though that may also be from people forgetting if a "Trap cards can be activated the turn they are set." effect in play.
@chendror872
@chendror872 5 жыл бұрын
Me too but it should also be obvious you set the card again
@peteryanes9339
@peteryanes9339 5 жыл бұрын
Scarecrow I knew about that maybe because I was already 14 in high school and was playing with ppl older than me at a card shop
@freefalling4271
@freefalling4271 5 жыл бұрын
Learnt that when I wondered why yusei wouldn’t activate it multiple times against zone.
@1337h4x0r42
@1337h4x0r42 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's that hard, it says set it, and you can't activate a card same turn you set it unless it says otherwise.
@Spoon8lld
@Spoon8lld 5 жыл бұрын
I used to think babycerasaurus was “destroyed” any time it went to the grave from anywhere
@phantombloodsoul
@phantombloodsoul 5 жыл бұрын
i want more baby's with different elements like water and fire
@waltercardcollector
@waltercardcollector 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's one of the things about Yugioh that aren't clear at all and that players just have to know.
@firatd.monkey7330
@firatd.monkey7330 4 жыл бұрын
@@phantombloodsoul You phrased that really weird but I agree tho!
@jeffreypalmers9161
@jeffreypalmers9161 4 жыл бұрын
@@phantombloodsoul basically give Dinos even more synergy with True Kings lmfao.
@Feast_
@Feast_ 5 жыл бұрын
At the start I confused Scrap-iron as well, I think I eventually figured out you couldn't use it infinitely because it says to "Set" the card, and according to the rules, you cannot activate cards you've SET that turn
@breezierchip8355
@breezierchip8355 5 жыл бұрын
I knew how Scrap-Iron worked. I used it once, and my friend briefly read the text. 'That's busted' He thought one was infinite Didn't attack without some negate/destroy effects. Never told him. w i n
@Hung_Nguyen_90
@Hung_Nguyen_90 4 жыл бұрын
If they actually try to attack the second time, ask them: "Did i tell you the definition of insanity?". May get away 🤣🤣🤣
@kyyourneutralisminekiske7104
@kyyourneutralisminekiske7104 2 жыл бұрын
Sigma
@megatenshi
@megatenshi 5 жыл бұрын
As a Trickstar player, my "too good to be true" combo is Trickstar Light Stage + being at 3 in 2020
@megatenshi
@megatenshi 5 жыл бұрын
@@NEOdarkGEMINI It's fine. I'm already tuning Shaddoll Trickstars using some of the new structure deck cards, and it's looking hella spicy. I'd still rather have the OCG 2 Candina 3 Stage tho
@JanizMakudomaru
@JanizMakudomaru 5 жыл бұрын
I've found my brethren. Trickstars4lyfe
@megatenshi
@megatenshi 5 жыл бұрын
@@JanizMakudomaru Fuck yeah. Unless Fluffals magically become meta, I'll keep on playin the gals
@manwithonesub8360
@manwithonesub8360 5 жыл бұрын
Trickstars? Have you no shame?
@megatenshi
@megatenshi 5 жыл бұрын
@@manwithonesub8360 Have you no LP?
@MinecrafterK3N
@MinecrafterK3N 4 жыл бұрын
Them: Scrap Iron Scarecrow isn't hard once per turn Me: It seems the wisdom from rule book 1.0 has been long forgotten
@rg03500
@rg03500 5 жыл бұрын
*GREAT SHOGUN SHEEN*
@edgegod4223
@edgegod4223 5 жыл бұрын
Sheen, this is the 7th week in a row you showed us your six sams deck
@mitth_raw_nuruodo
@mitth_raw_nuruodo 4 жыл бұрын
@@edgegod4223 nani
@jeremymorris345
@jeremymorris345 4 жыл бұрын
When a card from your own archtype doesn't activate your archtypes effects
@BronzeAnalystTM
@BronzeAnalystTM 5 жыл бұрын
*Ah yes, the almighty negate from MST*
@mitth_raw_nuruodo
@mitth_raw_nuruodo 4 жыл бұрын
DIO
@xfockinnti7283
@xfockinnti7283 4 жыл бұрын
remember playing 3msts,3 dust tornados for mirror force negation,great times
@pablorosada9788
@pablorosada9788 4 жыл бұрын
The thing that confused people the most about that was that TECNICALLY mst does negate continuous spells and traps, since they need to remain on the field to resolve.
@paradoxzee6834
@paradoxzee6834 4 жыл бұрын
Well to be honest I assumed for years that Mirror Force negates the attack but really it just destroy the attacking monster
@Lazar-TS
@Lazar-TS 4 жыл бұрын
GAY PRIEST!
@payne9682
@payne9682 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, so you're telling me that my broken combo of "Set and pass" doesn't actually work??!! Day 326 of waiting for New Volcanic Support to arrive
@yassinyt8531
@yassinyt8531 5 жыл бұрын
no bro u got the garnet
@wheelotime2581
@wheelotime2581 5 жыл бұрын
Set Shell pass. They'll NEVER expect that Shell floats for a mere 500 lp nyeh heh heh
@lordn4353
@lordn4353 5 жыл бұрын
Love ya, Payne
@payne9682
@payne9682 5 жыл бұрын
@@lordn4353 Love ya too :) (No homo)
@sekaihunter9378
@sekaihunter9378 5 жыл бұрын
@@payne9682 I feel the biggest relatable in this video lol. The first time I played Satellarknight I didn't know the "hard once per turn" ruling of the card, so I made the most broken field ever: - Normal Summon Vega, SS Altair in the hand, Altair summon another Vega in the GY, that Vega "activates" its effect, summon another Altair, SS Deneb in the GY - Make Rhongobongo. BOOM! I litterally summoned Number 86 with 5 materials, without Number 75, in first turn!
@itzAsianFool
@itzAsianFool 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO saw the thumbnail and immediately had flashbacks to the first time i tried building my own six sams that wasn't netdecked
@mrevilducky
@mrevilducky 5 жыл бұрын
I used to use a card called Scroll of Bewitchment, an equip spell that changes the attribute of the equipped monster; to change my opponents strong monsters to Spell/Trap attribute LOL and make them unusable.
@ciphymasterofmedia9104
@ciphymasterofmedia9104 5 жыл бұрын
Yo, an archetype based around turning opponents monsters into spells and traps would be cool
@noahmartinez38
@noahmartinez38 5 жыл бұрын
That weird moment when you accidentally invent pendulum monsters
@louaidz1929
@louaidz1929 5 жыл бұрын
@@ciphymasterofmedia9104 yeah why not let s make a custom archetybe
@mrevilducky
@mrevilducky 5 жыл бұрын
@@noahmartinez38 oh so that explains why my name is Yuya...
@ciphymasterofmedia9104
@ciphymasterofmedia9104 5 жыл бұрын
It'd be like reverse crystal beasts
@imreadydoctor
@imreadydoctor 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that "flip summon" was distinct from "flip," so I thought that golem sentry and those scarab cards were amazing back in the day.
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla 4 жыл бұрын
Me with Medusa worm
@bluemew22
@bluemew22 5 жыл бұрын
""When...: you can" effects." Ah, yes... the entire reason Poison Draw Frog is unplayable trash.
@blahmaster6k
@blahmaster6k 5 жыл бұрын
It's used in sea lancer decks but not much else.
@dicksonmattxenoblade6491
@dicksonmattxenoblade6491 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was used in Substitoad decks but only because it was a frog.
@rexusthevaliant6311
@rexusthevaliant6311 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought the cards should be structured something like this Cost: discard 1 card Effect: destroy 1 face-up monster on the field Then for if or when cards you could have a line like Cannot be chained or activated when used/discarded as a cost
@thecabbageman1
@thecabbageman1 4 жыл бұрын
It took me 10 years to realize that darkworlds don't work when discarded as a cost And I'm not proud of it
@Vulcanfaux
@Vulcanfaux 4 жыл бұрын
"Mst doesnt negate spells and traps.." Yeah found that out the hard way too. Good times good times....
@ultrainstinctgrey9184
@ultrainstinctgrey9184 5 жыл бұрын
I remember first playing yugioh and my buddy kept activating scrap iron scarecrow infinitely per turn and it was the bane of my existence. He used the scrap iron statue to negate multiple spells/traps too.....pain in the ass
@wheelotime2581
@wheelotime2581 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean my combos with 35 garnets don't work? I can summon Flying Fortress SKY FIRE on turn 1!
@winter945
@winter945 5 жыл бұрын
MBT is that you?
@ge789
@ge789 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s add Nerd Factor to that list also.
@cameraredeye3115
@cameraredeye3115 5 жыл бұрын
Let's add Key Mace to the combo. Just to summon out Zushin only 20 turns later. xD
@acedefective1491
@acedefective1491 4 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the ultimate obedient friend at 3 copies
@cruelcumber5317
@cruelcumber5317 5 жыл бұрын
I never had that issue with Scrap Iron Scarecrow, but to be fair I had seen the 5D's anime before getting the card, so it's very possible that that was the main reason I knew it rather than working out the mechanics by thinking about how all the rules worked.
@zeinixdexdesigns2005
@zeinixdexdesigns2005 5 жыл бұрын
Man I was cheated on my whole High school years with the Samurai player swarms
@lgro00
@lgro00 5 жыл бұрын
Feels bad
@zeinixdexdesigns2005
@zeinixdexdesigns2005 5 жыл бұрын
The Samurai Link gave me PTSD
@anhnguyentung6892
@anhnguyentung6892 4 жыл бұрын
Zeinix Dex designs same here My whole high school is about figure out hard counter for them
@snarf1851
@snarf1851 5 жыл бұрын
"MST doesn't negate?" Literally why i avoided whatever dueling book was called back in 2014/non scripted environments. I remember the first game i ever tried to play on the site.The guy played Infinite cards and legit thought he could draw his whole deck.
@ogueyratogeyrat7448
@ogueyratogeyrat7448 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@danballe
@danballe 4 жыл бұрын
INSERT EPIC ATOMIC FACEPALM!
@cheaterxl243
@cheaterxl243 5 жыл бұрын
Scrap Iron Scarecrow was the most broken defense Trap at the beginning of my Yu-Gi-Oh! Adventures
@Blazzardd
@Blazzardd 5 жыл бұрын
i remember the whole scrap-iron scarecrow problem happening back in my middleschool, me and my friends simply just decided it would be dumb and op if you could activate it all the time, so we simply said, No
@saharudin3159
@saharudin3159 4 жыл бұрын
Unless he had Royal temple..that allow you active trap card during the turn its set..another effect you can summon mystical beast of sacred or something?
@plzcme434
@plzcme434 5 жыл бұрын
Back when synchro monsters came out first, I thought you could Special Summon Stardust Dragon with it's own effect after summoning it with starlight road direct from the extra deck.
@Rioluman10
@Rioluman10 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that was how it originally worked until the proper summoning ruling was introduced.
@strawhat9023
@strawhat9023 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rioluman10 But that was around for a grip before that because E Hero Fusions and Fusion Reborn and ritual Demise
@lancerguy3667
@lancerguy3667 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the first locals I ever went to. I finished in second place. The kid who beat me used those flip-effect monsters to do it. Des Lacoda, swarm of locusts, et cetera. I didn't realize until months afterward that I should have won because he was using them wrong. We both thought their effects activated if they were flipped up from being attacked in battle, but since they don't say :FLIP:, they actually didn't, so he got a lot of effects off he shouldn't have. I can't be mad about it... we were both misinformed... but still. Kids not understanding how cards work sucks, especially back when I was young... there weren't many older players around to help judge us.
@rastadiefunk3676
@rastadiefunk3676 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, he was right lmao
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla 3 жыл бұрын
@Rasta Diefunk - No that guy is wrong. All those monsters have the trigger “When this card is flip summoned...” as opposed to “When this card is flipped face up...” or the more abbreviated “FLIP:”
@rastadiefunk3676
@rastadiefunk3676 3 жыл бұрын
@@chompyzilla when you attack a Monster while it is set and it is a flip monster the effect still activates.
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla 3 жыл бұрын
While that is true for normal flip effects, that’s not what those are.
@rastadiefunk3676
@rastadiefunk3676 3 жыл бұрын
@@chompyzilla oh now i get it they thought the normal effect activates too after flip but only the flip Marked does
@ParadoxNerdHLM
@ParadoxNerdHLM 5 жыл бұрын
Since I'd never actually read the card, I thought Armageddon Knight could send any monster
@placeholdertag
@placeholdertag 5 жыл бұрын
👀 would be busted if true
@magicalscientist192
@magicalscientist192 5 жыл бұрын
That's basically Mathematician isn't it?
@Harmonic14
@Harmonic14 5 жыл бұрын
BrokeCollegeYGO no
@magicalscientist192
@magicalscientist192 5 жыл бұрын
@@Harmonic14 it kinda is. It sends any Lv 4 or lower on normal summon
@shekargarvey8330
@shekargarvey8330 4 жыл бұрын
BrokeCollegeYGO arma can be looped tho
@chernobyl13
@chernobyl13 5 жыл бұрын
This was a really cool video! I hope there is a part two in the future. The idea of "When [condition]: You can [effect]" is really different in Yugioh than it is in Magic, the game I play most often. In Magic, those are called Triggered Abilities and (to oversimplify) they will always happen, regardless of what happens to the card. They always use "when," "whenever," or "at" to denote when they happen. It's interesting to see the contrast between games.
@ge789
@ge789 5 жыл бұрын
A Wild Monster Appears! I thought this card made the monster I Summoned unaffected by all other card effects, instead of just mine. If you wondering what I chose to summon, it was either Ultimate Conductor Tyranno or, the main target, Water Dragon Cluster to negate all of the opponent’s effects and reduce their ATK to 0. Also, me and friend used to think linking and co-linking were the same thing. We know better now.
@aspreedacore
@aspreedacore 4 жыл бұрын
I used to think co-linking was any monster link or not, that was in the link monsters arrow path.
@shadyoak6537
@shadyoak6537 5 жыл бұрын
I got so mad when I found out you couldn't use one vampire familiar to summon another after the special summon from hand
@emg1233
@emg1233 3 жыл бұрын
tour guide> special sangan> xyz detach> sangan effect, this one plagued me back in the day.
@cherrybansx7398
@cherrybansx7398 5 жыл бұрын
when i started the game in my teens my english was much worse so i wasnt sure what "deficit" meant so with soul strike i thought my monster gained atk equal to different between both players lp and also another 4000 for some reason. so if opponent had 8000 my monster would gains 6000+4000=10000 atk from 1 trap card
@theazuredemon4854
@theazuredemon4854 4 жыл бұрын
A combination of playing the physical card game, playing the video games, and watching the anime can help you get a better feel of how the cards actually work, since certain rulings aren't always clear, such as infinite re-spawning Stardust Dragon with its effect only works if you have successfully Synchro Summoned it from the extra deck and you can constantly negate destruction effects(though that may be a video game thing), but if it gets banished and special summoned from being banished even though successfully special summoned from the extra deck before it got banished or it got destroyed in battle and brought back by Monster Reborn, you don't get that infinite re-spawn Stardust Dragon to constantly negate destruction effects, just a one time use because it was brought back from outside of the extra deck(again, could be a video game thing)
@jkromes20
@jkromes20 5 жыл бұрын
tainted wisdom ftks on youtube with a ton of 1 ofs lol
@Mekmassimochannel
@Mekmassimochannel 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this as vividly as day. By Order of the Emperor + Any normal summoned monster with an activated effect. Draw your entire deck. By order of the emperor deserves a spot in Part 2
@kaito0427
@kaito0427 5 жыл бұрын
For me the broken combo was, using "Traptrix Mantis" to target and set backrow, chain the same backrow and then instead of sending it to the gy. you add it back to the hand and set it again. with this you could infinitely loop something like reckless greed everyturn or some of your "hole" trap card. sad this doens not work.
@NickersonGeneral
@NickersonGeneral 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was first starting out, I felt so proud that I came up with a combo featuring Stone Statue of the Aztecs, Ojama Trio, and Staunch Defender, the basic idea being to summon 3 ojama tokens onto my opponent's side of the field, and using staunch defender to force them to attack my stone statue for a total of 12000 points of damage to my opponent (since Stone Statue doubles all battle damage). And then I learned that Staunch Defender doesn't affect monsters in defense mode, I can't have it target a set monster, and that if my opponent has a monster on the field with more than 2000 attack points, then my Stone Statue dies without anything else needing to attack.
@Trekkie46
@Trekkie46 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't faced Shiens like that in a long time. Pretty sure I got screwed over back then.
@John_1-1_in_Japanese
@John_1-1_in_Japanese 4 жыл бұрын
Similar to Prisma, when I was a kid and Fusion Reserve was originally released, I thought it could potentially search Exodia pieces (or just any monster period) using the generic HERO fusions. I looked at Pojo for verification since it seemed a tad too good to be true, and sure enough it seemed quite a few had the same misunderstanding.
@kuyashiix
@kuyashiix 5 жыл бұрын
I had one that was interesting because it actually worked on YGO Pro for a while. I would play Qliphorts, and my tech was Cyber Valley, I would use Cyber Valley's second effect for drawing 2 which is "You can target 1 face-up monster you control and this card; banish both that target and this card, then draw 2 cards." I thought it would work because Qli monsters are unaffected by monster effects of any monster with a lower level, so I figured it would leave the monster and Cyber Valley would turn into a less restricted Cardcar D.
@lilithlissandra8047
@lilithlissandra8047 5 жыл бұрын
My own version of this was Trap Eater. I always used to believe that since it didn't specify where it could be summoned from that I could summon it from anywhere. Hand, grave, banish pile, even my deck at one point. I also used to think I could just chain it to the activation of a trap card, like if my friends would flip Scrap-Iron Scarecrow on me. #TrapEaterNegates
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting 5 жыл бұрын
Fusion Tag, which in the OCG you can use it for contact fusions and in the TCG they decided you can’t.
@curziomalaparte3008
@curziomalaparte3008 5 жыл бұрын
Tributing Dupe Frog or using it for summoning material used to sound like an amazing combo before I learned it missed timing
@MrGiovannisassano
@MrGiovannisassano 4 жыл бұрын
You missed an timing interaction combo with a "face down Book of Moon, morphing jar's effect activation, effect veiler, book of taiyou, you'd first flip morphing jar face up with book of taiyou," They'd start the chain to jar's eff by using the opponent's eff veiler, you then chain the set book of moon to jar being face up to have jar go face down; veiler's eff miss's it's target timing on jar cuz - "the flip face down effect goes of first but the cost of veiler would state sending it to the grave cost for veiler's eff to go off". Jar's effects goes off after words cuz veiler effect does not have a face up card for a target.
@lcjeanfrancois2397
@lcjeanfrancois2397 3 жыл бұрын
Peten with synchro/xyz (well misstiming) made me cry
@YuseiTheSynchroHero
@YuseiTheSynchroHero 5 жыл бұрын
That small Gusto mention hit me right at home. Long ago, I used to do that and most of my opponents just went with it because they also thought it worked that way. Lmao!
@eulefranz944
@eulefranz944 5 жыл бұрын
I think most of these actions happen at the lower level, because it "doesn't say exactly what it does", like scrap iron or mst negate. Either the intrinsic rulings of the game hinder these 'combos' or a slight different wording on cards (negating effects vs negating activations or when vs if effects). One has to read very carefully and often inexperienced players do not even know that there exist a difference in these two card effects.
@MobiusLeader007
@MobiusLeader007 5 жыл бұрын
I thought Spell Striker could Special Summon itself from the graveyard. So I would tribute it multiple times with Cannon Soldier for game.
@InfernoDragon1
@InfernoDragon1 5 жыл бұрын
While normally you can’t use the same scrap-iron scarecrow multiple times in one turn it can be combined with other cards that let you activate traps the turn they are set to make it work like that. For example, Temple of the Kings allows you to activate 1 trap the turn you set it, because scrap-Iron scarecrow re-sets itself after activating you can then use it again in the same turn after it’s initial activation as long as you control Temple of the Kings.
@DarkPurpleDude
@DarkPurpleDude 4 жыл бұрын
Spell Economics and Mausoleum of the Emperor. This combo is actually kind of funny to me, because this was actually taught to me back in the days of Duel Network. I was taught by a friend of mine on there that with Spell Economics on the Field, you can use Mausoleum to Normal Summon high leveled Monsters without Tributing without paying a single Life Point. Of course, lo and behold, a year or two later, I discover that Spell Economics only works on the Spell Card itself being activated, not the activation of an effect of a card already in play.
@SalamanderNuva
@SalamanderNuva 4 жыл бұрын
6:03 I never understood this, because how can you not normal summon after your monster gets solemn striked but you can activate another spell/trap if shi-en negates it with shien
@westwardmedia9375
@westwardmedia9375 4 жыл бұрын
That Six Samurai Combo Actually Surprises Me I Too Thought For The Longest Time That Those Two Cards Would Work Great Together.
@Drakhallan
@Drakhallan 4 жыл бұрын
When I was in middle school I ran a "Soul Absorbing Bone Tower" mill deck, and I used to try and say I could use "Patrician of Darkness" to force my opponent to target the Bone Tower for battle, but because Bone Tower can't be targeted for attacks when there's another Zombie on the field, I used to say it would just negate the attack.
@bazkervillerouge750
@bazkervillerouge750 5 жыл бұрын
This pre-format content its great m8.
@JanizMakudomaru
@JanizMakudomaru 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the Shiens come up I put my head down. How could they make such a perfect combo then just ruin it with one word? I was but a CHILD when they got me and was using Samurai.
@Mewatron
@Mewatron 5 жыл бұрын
When the zombie deck first came out I thought glow-up bloom can be banished any time therefore I ran needle bug nest
@Mewatron
@Mewatron 5 жыл бұрын
It still is worse than I thought
@Espeon1134
@Espeon1134 4 жыл бұрын
Scrap Iron Scarecrow never confused me. Though that being said and jumping to a different card, i think the confusion that comes with Prisma stems from people using Future Fusion with Five-Headed Dragon. As the card does say 'send the fusion Materials listed on it', and Five-Headed says 5 Dragons So until Prisma effect was corrected, they were, by the card text, doing it correctly.
@yukicraft3210
@yukicraft3210 4 жыл бұрын
I used to activate quick plays from the hand during my opponent’s turn. I only realized you couldn’t do this when Ebon High Magician got revealed and I said “Why would you want to detach a material to do something you already can”? Then I realized that you CANT.
@onassismothoa1561
@onassismothoa1561 5 жыл бұрын
Me and my brother still laugh about how we thought that if you killed a gladiator beast in battle, you were still able to activate their effect to cycle into the deck and fetch another gladiator beast. My brother was able to win a majority of games because of the 2 gladiator beasts (we renamed them "god beasts") in his deck lmaoo
@Crimzonbreaker
@Crimzonbreaker 5 жыл бұрын
Onassis Mothoa Yo I used to play like that. I was like this deck is so OP. I got online my Gladiator Beast died and I was like "what's going on"?
@SHP_IS_DLCIUS
@SHP_IS_DLCIUS 4 жыл бұрын
I'm asking just to be sure, all Aromage/seraphy monsters can activate their effect in both your and opponent turn right, you just need to gain lf to trigger them, plus if you did it in your turn you can do that in the opponent one rightly after?
@poogly123
@poogly123 4 жыл бұрын
For the longest time, I thought that if I had no monsters left on the field, I could summon Dark Magician and declare a direct attack.
@i8u2manytimes
@i8u2manytimes 5 жыл бұрын
We still used scrap iron scarecrow properly in high school. The main contender was a deck we called 'flip flip'. The combo was stealth bird, Kaiser Coliseum and scrap iron scarecrow
@BigBahss
@BigBahss 3 жыл бұрын
You kind of blew my mind with that Six Samurai ruling, apparently I've been on the giving and receiving end of many cheated duels.
@satorikomeiji3571
@satorikomeiji3571 4 жыл бұрын
I was eliminated in the first round of my first yu-gi-oh tournament at a small card shop when my opponent unleashed his 3 Ameba on me. With no judge at the tournament, and his friends backing him up, they convinced everyone that Ameba's effect was to just swap control and inflict 2000 damage with no other cards needed so I was destroyed by his OP burn deck.
@Vinicius-Bigode
@Vinicius-Bigode 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when I finally understood miss timing... felt like a slap in the face when I learn that *EVERY Subterror Behemoth* monster can miss time. *Cries in Final Battle"
@davidharmon9919
@davidharmon9919 5 жыл бұрын
I used to think that if you activate Divine Dragon Apocrypha by discarding White Stone of Legend, you could then return that same card you discarded to your hand, giving you easy access to all of your Blue-Eyes. As a result of this misconception, I would make that very play, even when my GY was empty and then fusion summon Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon.
@eternalshadow1326
@eternalshadow1326 5 жыл бұрын
this reminds me of zombie world preventing tributes while a spell called hazy pillar reduces tribute number so i can normal summon without tributing
@IKingRonin
@IKingRonin 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I like how you mix it up a little positive and negative aspect, Keep it up. Remember, don't make it all negative, because there is a positive in everything :D
@nestproductions7420
@nestproductions7420 4 жыл бұрын
Prisma can by used to summon cards like Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon though, right? It can be used to replace specifically listed cards? For instance, D/D/D Oracle King D'Arc. Now, what about the cards that list archetype names, such as Predaplant Chimerafflesia, which calls for one Predaplant monster and one dark monster? Could Prisma be used to replace the "Predaplant" monster?
@Dzeeff
@Dzeeff 4 жыл бұрын
Specific names only, so copying a Blue eyes to summon BEUD is fine
@TheMightyGiantDad
@TheMightyGiantDad 5 жыл бұрын
The shogun shi en is also good since even if you negate the first spell/trap, your opponent cant respond with another spell/trap during that chain. Nice protection for situations like resolving utopic zexal
@ivosanchezvedelago560
@ivosanchezvedelago560 5 жыл бұрын
Can You explain me why i can't use mask chance when my opponent has they're can ve only one activated?
@zabumafu7037
@zabumafu7037 4 жыл бұрын
So does the "when" ruling mean that overflow dragon can't resolve its effect if something like interrupted kaiju slumber goes off?
@NickersonGeneral
@NickersonGeneral 3 жыл бұрын
correct. Since Overflow Dragon's effect is optional, it specifies "when a monster is destroyed by a card effect", it can't resolve if monsters being destroyed isn't the last thing that happens. Since Interrupted Kaiju Slumber specifies it destroys all monsters THEN summons the Kaijus, the monster destruction happens first.
@zabumafu7037
@zabumafu7037 3 жыл бұрын
@@NickersonGeneral well dang. If it did resolve, overflow dragon would actually be useful. Lol
@SSDragon19
@SSDragon19 4 жыл бұрын
when getting back into yugioh, i made a danger! dark world deck. ditched the dark worlds fast when i learned the discard problem with dark world. still learning it when using different discard effects
@devastatheseeker9967
@devastatheseeker9967 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the main thing I always forget is that pendulums are spells and monsters. I remember making a post asking if the pendulum effect where...copernicus? Wouldn't be destroyed to negate effect damage if you use the effect of the triple D xyz monster to stop a monster from being destroyed.
@LuckyBassDCMC
@LuckyBassDCMC 4 жыл бұрын
@Dzeeff there is this OP combo of Time Wizard effect so you can turn your Baby Dragon to Thousand Dragon, it’s pretty old school but not a lot of people know about it. You can also normal summon Flame Swordsman
@Jajuan44
@Jajuan44 4 жыл бұрын
Not just Flame Swordsman but any monster. If you think about it Kaiba was always holding back, instead of using polymerization to summon Blue-Eyes ultimate he could have just put it into his main deck and normal summon it, and he'd have easy access to a monster stronger than Obelisk.
@cuauhtemocgonzales2530
@cuauhtemocgonzales2530 5 жыл бұрын
I understand the whole Shien thing, because I use to think that you can lock your opponent out. But, I learned about the whole thing if you negate its not successfully activated. Meaning the effect didn't gone through for Shien full effect. The whole Scrap Iron and Prisma kinda made me scratch my head. It's very obvious that you cannot activate traps the turn you set it and need the right Fusion Material to mill by Prisma. I have the very old printing of Prisma but always used Prisma correctly.
@metleon
@metleon 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand how most of Yu-Gi-Oh worked until I played the World Championship video games. Did plenty of things like activating trap cards immediately and discarding Dark Worlds with Raigeki Break. For Dark Worlds specifically, we figured the only reason they specified card effects is because they didn't want effects to activate if they're discarded at the end of the turn due to the hand size limit.
@BlaiseArath
@BlaiseArath 4 жыл бұрын
That Scrap-Iron Scarecrow one caught me off guard, since its common knowledge (And most people who used it probably knew this) you can't activate a Trap the same turn you set it and the card specifically mentions re-Setting it. I guess I only understood it because I first learned of the card in the Anime where its effect was clearly shown to be once a turn lol.
@My1xT
@My1xT 4 жыл бұрын
especially on the minuscule font size many cards nowadays use, I would prefer the wording of Japanese text (pendulum onwards), which not only numbers effects with a circled number but seperates condition/cost and effect by being in their own sentence and a japanese sentence dot 。 especially considering the full-width nature is a lot more noticable than a colon/semicolon and stuff. also base conditions of a card that arent an effect like name conditions like on Cyber Harpie, or Archtype conditions like on Utopia Beyond (yes the Japanese version has an archtype condition), summoning conditions (e.g. ancient gear golem not being able to be special summoned), or Hard once per turn clauses, are before any effects and listed without a number, which makes it obvious that negationg effects doesnt negate these. also Hard once per turn conditions in the west are often written slightly differently depending which/how many of a cards effects they encompass, and often enough just buried in the card texts while in Japan it just says "This Card Name's ①③ Effects can only be activated once per turn" (and yes they dont actually write the card name, as that would just take too much space so they chose "this card name's" instead. also regarding rulings that may or may not be obvious maybe somehting like a clarification text like in Magic could be used in () marks to note it's just explaining a standard rule and not part of an effect
@icedearthneverdies
@icedearthneverdies 5 жыл бұрын
I had an issue with monsters with "attack in a row" in their effects. I thlught that as long they acomplish their condition they can attack again and again and again. For example: once I dueled a dude with a zombie deck and he had only a setted monster and I drew Twin-Sword Marauder and attacked, his monster was Spirit reaper and as Twin-Sword Marauder's effect says 'if this card attack a defense position monster it can attack again in a row' I attacked that Spirit Reaper until his life points dropped to 0
@sandman7170
@sandman7170 4 жыл бұрын
Along with Prisma, King of the Swamp was another one with a similar condition. I couldn't Fusion Summon Gravekeeper's Spiritualist because of that, and had to fuse another way.
@stupidabc4331
@stupidabc4331 5 жыл бұрын
Soul charge with DDD Oracle king darc because the lp was the cost not the effect so it won't heal me ( before any start attacking me, back then I was just a scrub, I'm still a scrub now but at least I know that wouldn't work any more
@NormalNeu001
@NormalNeu001 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the life point loss in Soul Charge is not a cost, but part of the effect. The reason this combo doesn't work is because Soul Charge doesn't inflict damage, but makes you simply lose life points.
@dragullongblackfang8073
@dragullongblackfang8073 4 жыл бұрын
@@NormalNeu001 funfact if it would be anime soulcharge the combo would work but you would gain 500 life points less for each creature you can figute that one out your self
@jesuscryst3239
@jesuscryst3239 4 жыл бұрын
So when I first saw "triangle ecstasy spark" I thought the card was busted, until I realized that you actually needed "harpy lady sisters" on field for it to get it's other effect... Then several years later "anti-magic arrows" and I was happy.
@solaris9426
@solaris9426 4 жыл бұрын
But that means you can use Scrap-Iron Scarecrow twice per Battle Phase if you also have Temple of Kings face-up, which allows the controller to activate 1 Trap Card the turn its Set, right?
@iananderson4754
@iananderson4754 4 жыл бұрын
I looked up beast king Barbados and axe of fools and turns out that combo is legit. My 13 year old mind comboed them all the time
@Lazar-TS
@Lazar-TS 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know if these are included didn't watch the video but... I thought Mirror Force negates the attack too, Junk Warrior gains Level 2 and lower monsters' ATK anytime, and you could use Scrap-Iron Scarecrow can be activated multiple times in a turn.
@IkBenNoLife
@IkBenNoLife 5 жыл бұрын
Hey dzeeff, actually had a ruling question for you since you're probs a lot better than i am at this game. If i use sinister shadow games and send the new shaddoll wind monster (windi) can i use her effect to set something and then flip it up with the second part of sinister or does this miss timing? Thanks in advance.
@andregon4366
@andregon4366 3 жыл бұрын
I still remember in the GBA game using a MST to destroy a spell card, the CPU used a magic jammer to negate MST and I used a Dark Bribe to negate the MJ, only to see the spell card to activate anyway. At least I cleared half the cards in the field.
@hctaz
@hctaz 4 жыл бұрын
God I’m late to this party but oh lord did I get wombo combo’d by so many of these. Pretty much most if not all of these were around and in my school meta back in 2012-2013 when I was a senior in high school. I “lost” a game to Scrap Iron Scarecrow when my Chimeratech Overdragon couldn’t attack enough times and fast enough to where my opponent would forget to activate that card. Infinitely stopping attacks is pretty broken.. until you realize it isn’t. Also there was a kid who played Dark Worlds AND a kid who played Six Samurai so like... oh lord. The Great Shogun and Shien 2 card lock down was the most oppressive thing in the game, and I still have zero idea if that Dark World player made any ruling errors but his deck sure did feel unfair. It’s sad that I’m learning today my deck probably wasn’t actually as bad as I thought it was and my opponents were just accidentally cheating. LOL
@iShionSinX
@iShionSinX 4 жыл бұрын
So you cant use 'when/you can' even if you use the effect before putting the synchro on the field (that is the last effect of the summon that sent the materials to the graveyard)?
@filipposvavaletskos3085
@filipposvavaletskos3085 5 жыл бұрын
How about Assault Mode Activate? That card states "Tribute 1 Synchro Monster; Special Summon 1 "/Assault Mode" monster, whose name includes the Tributed monster's name, from your Deck in Attack Position." It never got and errata and it does not specify wich player needs to control the Synchro monster,so one could assume that you could tribute your opponents Synchro monsters for the cost(although Costs are to be payed by the player that activated such card).Since it does not state "You control" like it should.
@Dzeeff
@Dzeeff 5 жыл бұрын
If you look in the rulebook's glossary you'll see that when a card says "tribute" it always means your own cards unless specified otherwise.
@filipposvavaletskos3085
@filipposvavaletskos3085 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dzeeff What I'm saying is that card caused a lot of confusion where I'm from.Plus there are cards that specify from your side of the field as a cost like Arcane Archer of the Forest.So it makes sense that people would get confused.
@filipposvavaletskos3085
@filipposvavaletskos3085 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dzeeff Mystical Refpanel should get a mention as Nyhmnim stated it's a fundamentaly broken card.
@Dzeeff
@Dzeeff 5 жыл бұрын
@@filipposvavaletskos3085 Keep in mind there are plenty of cards that just say tribute and don't mention your side of the field, I remember Decode Talker being a real headache to explain lol. And yeah! Refpanel is extremely confusing. What a poorly designed card
@Infinite160
@Infinite160 5 жыл бұрын
The Metalfoes + Key Beetles combo to thin out your entire deck.
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