Why Nobody Plays the Nordic Gods

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Dzeeff

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4 жыл бұрын

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@ryoandr
@ryoandr 4 жыл бұрын
"Black and white goats" to stealthly avoid saying their names lol
@willieoelkers5568
@willieoelkers5568 4 жыл бұрын
Tooth-Gnasher and Tooth-Grinder, it's not that hard.
@prismglider5922
@prismglider5922 4 жыл бұрын
Stealthy is not the right word for that
@Hanzo1
@Hanzo1 4 жыл бұрын
Tanngrisnir and Tangnostr or something iirc
@DerVasto
@DerVasto 4 жыл бұрын
Like Tan-grisnir and Tang-nostr It´s not that hard to say.
@Ragnarokgaming88
@Ragnarokgaming88 4 жыл бұрын
@@DerVasto very close Tanngnjóstr is tang- nyo- str and Tanngrisnir is correct as tan- gris- nir also if anyone wants to know Æsir is said as I-seer
@bocodamondo
@bocodamondo 4 жыл бұрын
nordics are an example of the old yugioh anime to OCG/TCG archetypes, where konami is soo scared of the cards thinking they will end up being too good so they nerf the hell out of them and the end result is pure garbage... some example is the nordic gods were all "divine-type" and had generic summon requirement, and didnt need to banish a tuner to bring themselves back if they got destroyed, thor even could steal opponent's monster effects, which could have some gimmicky fun situations if it had that in real life. other example is some other monsters like Valkyrie where in the anime you didnt need to control no cards to use her effect, im really glad nowdays konami finally learned its lession and usually BUFFS anime cards when they come out unlike the opposite back then
@TCGCardcast
@TCGCardcast 4 жыл бұрын
bocodamondo wait really? Huh... I’ll have to remember that when i make my anime ragnorok decks..
@scarletdefender4life230
@scarletdefender4life230 4 жыл бұрын
My brother and I both use Nordic decks it’s his favourite and I like it so can the corner fit us? Also my cousin calls nordics op
@arandominternetuser4507
@arandominternetuser4507 4 жыл бұрын
Another thing like this that konami did is the they nerfed elemental hero Wisemans so that you need to send 2 specific high level monsters to special summon this card from your hand and all it could do was to deal damage to you opponent equal to the monster it and battles and it also heals you that much. In the anime it was a fusion monster that had the same effect but it had a floating effect to bring out elemental hero neos.
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 4 жыл бұрын
@@scarletdefender4life230 yeah, people often think things are OP that aren't because in the meta they play in, people either don't know how to counter that strategy, or just nobody has the cards for it. These people have never seen actual meta-decks play, or even looked at a deck blueprint.
@crimsonchin4889
@crimsonchin4889 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nerobyrne I was blown away in my early years realizing pretty much all the mirror force cards dont see play and are generally bad
@Tomha
@Tomha 4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason using all 3 is bad is because in 5Ds. Each member of Team Ragnarok was using 1, not all 3. So they had 3 different decks built around their gods.
@waltermalone216
@waltermalone216 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but building a deck around Loki would be whack as fuck.
@jesseymarchlewski8534
@jesseymarchlewski8534 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, your brilliant
@Tomha
@Tomha 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesseymarchlewski8534 I mean that's how it worked in the 5Ds. Each member built their deck around 1 Norse God and because it was a special 3v3 if one lost, their God remained on the field for the next member, then he whipped out his God, so the last one with Odin got to start with Thor and Loki already out. It was a pretty badass chunk of episodes.
@noodle6923
@noodle6923 4 жыл бұрын
Me casually sits in the corner with my nordic deck
@cajohn1194
@cajohn1194 4 жыл бұрын
Thedailyblah Does it suck?
@rawr6461
@rawr6461 4 жыл бұрын
Room for one more in the corner?
@loganlazarus5644
@loganlazarus5644 4 жыл бұрын
I have a noris deck, most of my friends activly use their nordic decks
@magtac1
@magtac1 4 жыл бұрын
I play metaphys nordic. The deck is garbage, but if your opponent is a cuck and plays no handtraps, getting your -3 back from Gulvieg is pretty satisfying.
@DevonJohnston_The_Rose_of_Ice
@DevonJohnston_The_Rose_of_Ice 4 жыл бұрын
Joins you in the corner, "its okay"
@MarioTehNewOne
@MarioTehNewOne 4 жыл бұрын
Because they appeared in Legacy of the Worthless
@thewhizkid3937
@thewhizkid3937 4 жыл бұрын
Hahah.
@spartanq7781
@spartanq7781 4 жыл бұрын
It appeared there because it was worthless. The anime made them out to be near invincible but they aren't in the slightest.
@Obviouse
@Obviouse 4 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair i think they were a little better in the anime
@thewhizkid3937
@thewhizkid3937 4 жыл бұрын
@@Obviouse Cause, Yugi is the King of Games, my friend.
@lordradiance2530
@lordradiance2530 4 жыл бұрын
Mr.Obviouse Otaku yeah the nordics were generic in the anime and had some actual protection on them.
@DerVasto
@DerVasto 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Nordic Gods didn´t have the effects to warrant their high costs for summoning. 3000-4000ATk is nice and all, but how come Thor doesn´t just Raigeki-nuke the board like the thunder-god he is? How come Odin, the Allfather, can´t let you (even partly) see the cards of your opponent, either the set ones or some of his hand? How come Loki can´t do anything related to being a trickster, like shapeshifting into another monster or pulling a trap out of his ass?
@tristanholdsworth2762
@tristanholdsworth2762 3 жыл бұрын
A cool effect for Loki would be if it it’s effected by a opponents card effect you can pull a trap from your deck and activate it from your hand straight away.
@Kerim9991
@Kerim9991 3 жыл бұрын
what I want to know is why the art is ugly as fuck. Odin is passable but why does Thor have ugg boots and meaty oversized hands. I won't even mention Loki.
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kerim9991 They’re not based off the Marvel versions that’s why.
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
Also Loki should get a more spicy effect. One idea I had was that maybe once per turn you could choose one card in your hand and then your opponent has to guess type. If they are right you can return one card on the field to it's owner's deck and if they are wrong you can return one card in the graveyard to it's owner's deck. Then the card you picked is put back into the deck and you draw a new one. I think that fits him quite nicely in that you're making your opponent try to guess wrong and make sure they can never outwhith you as you always have a different card to check.
@cogahan3105
@cogahan3105 Жыл бұрын
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Even for the adaptation from the original mythology they're ugly as shit
@serina3872
@serina3872 4 жыл бұрын
They continue the theme of god cards being bad
@Partylikeits-br7bb
@Partylikeits-br7bb 4 жыл бұрын
Its like Konami doesn't understand that a "god" is supposed to be strong af. Atheists.
@anayos6726
@anayos6726 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Honora Why call them Atheists because the god cards aren’t godly at all? It’s unnecessary. And to be perfectly clear, KONAMI doesn’t really give two fucks about thinking through their cards more. Release something either shit or broken, move on to the next. And maybe come back with either more shit, make it decent, or make it busted.
@justanothercommenterwithan9089
@justanothercommenterwithan9089 4 жыл бұрын
@@anayos6726 why does this sound familiar?
@V-Jes
@V-Jes 4 жыл бұрын
@@Partylikeits-br7bb They'r Japanese, what else needs to be said when Japanese media makes killing gods more casual than playing children's card game with actual children.
@books231
@books231 4 жыл бұрын
At least timelords didn't suffer to bad (except for sephylon and halion I suppose)
@TrifGaming
@TrifGaming 4 жыл бұрын
“Let’s kill him properly this time” I wanna play this deck so bad 😭
@Alex-gw6ie
@Alex-gw6ie 4 жыл бұрын
NORDIC PENDULUMS
@phantomkaiba8727
@phantomkaiba8727 4 жыл бұрын
Duelist kingdom sadly no synergy
@midnightttemp821
@midnightttemp821 4 жыл бұрын
Play it in duel links (?)
@zamorak888
@zamorak888 4 жыл бұрын
@@midnightttemp821 Nordics are also bad in Duel Links
@azurecreed9119
@azurecreed9119 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a powerful deck this guy does not know how to play them so He can’t talk
@kristofgriffin384
@kristofgriffin384 4 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly really sad out how bad Nordics turned out to be. Norse mythology is my second favorite myth behind the Greco-Roman one, and adapting it into a series of cards sounds like a fantastic idea. Honestly, if they gave the three Aesir retrains with superior effects as well as easier ways summons them out, this archetype could have been pretty good. I'll probably just use it in Duel Links.
@r4nd0mguy99
@r4nd0mguy99 4 жыл бұрын
I also like Norse mythology. I wouldn‘t even use them in Duel Links. Their consistency is so bad, that you pretty much always lose if your plan is to focus on the synchroes. They may be a good option for lower level synchroes but there are better ways to go about those.
@YohananYGO
@YohananYGO 4 жыл бұрын
All of them should have effects like unaffected by anything and NUKE the enemies board once per turn , im serius thats how a GOD card should be .
@YohananYGO
@YohananYGO 4 жыл бұрын
Or even banish the whole enemies board and hand and graveyard and deck lol .
@YohananYGO
@YohananYGO 4 жыл бұрын
And also they cant respond to the effect realy if they make another god card it MUST have that effetcs .
@majesticgothitelle1802
@majesticgothitelle1802 4 жыл бұрын
The anime counterpart is much better!
@johnmckeaveney8382
@johnmckeaveney8382 4 жыл бұрын
They should introduce lvl 12 versions of each of the gods and a new level 2 tuner for each, with very powerful regular effects but devestating effects if summoned using the original god as material
@iliketurtles5180
@iliketurtles5180 4 жыл бұрын
They would practically have to make you win with the amount of resources you would need to summon it
@unge1483
@unge1483 4 жыл бұрын
I like turtles yeah, new win condition card
@hollowtale8550
@hollowtale8550 4 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget the day when I was playing at school and we were playing 4000 lifepoints because there wasn't enough time to play 8000. My friend summons his Odin straight away and I have no monsters on the field, but I have two traps. My friend attacks directly and I use your favourite card, magic cylinder, to win.
@xfrostbite8328
@xfrostbite8328 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 not magic cylinder
@bloodfest8510
@bloodfest8510 3 жыл бұрын
My guy didnt just use odins effect to not get effected? Cap
@phantomnite
@phantomnite 2 жыл бұрын
@Ryugi that's the thing, if he activate the effect. But he didn't lol, so he can use magic cylinder
@juanmarailgun7783
@juanmarailgun7783 4 жыл бұрын
Nordic was my first deck in Dueling Network. Back then it was just a mashup of Ascended, Beasts and Alfar, but after I learned a bit more I reduced it it to only Ascended and Beasts. I loved the Tannjostr into Tsngrissnir into Guldfaxe combo
@ragingasta9446
@ragingasta9446 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing I just got oofed by one in duel links 💀💀💀💀
@ThaChiefofChiefin
@ThaChiefofChiefin 4 жыл бұрын
Me too Now I want one lmfao
@omega5040
@omega5040 4 жыл бұрын
If they made them a buff to their effects, give Thor a negate your opponents monsters effect as a continuous effect, Loki the ability to negate any spell or trap at any time not just battle phase, and Odin be unaffected by cards effect. They be pretty fun gimmicks to use.
@elin111
@elin111 4 жыл бұрын
One big benefit the Nordic Gods had in the anime was that they could revive themselves for free and it didn't matter what killed them. That change probably wouldn't do much for them in the tcg though. Odin also protected the whole field.
@DarkFireBlade25
@DarkFireBlade25 4 жыл бұрын
wow they nerfed those bosses hard.
@victorsandeen2694
@victorsandeen2694 4 жыл бұрын
To show you the power of Konami, I sawed this archetype in half!
@erenerikci3263
@erenerikci3263 4 жыл бұрын
I made a decent Nordic deck with the new support. People kept stealing Odin with borreload/ run it over with borrelsword. Even if Nordics were viable, everybody has a generic link 4 monster to out your Odin.
@dbomba
@dbomba 4 жыл бұрын
Me too but I actually built it for 100$ in real life and it gets easy wins against like Salads and some other Meta decks like Orcust thanks to handtraps and cards like Eater of Millions or Solemn Strike. Also if you are able to pull out Thor against Meta boards you actually destroy them even tho it's effect is slow. Sometimes I pull out Odin just to deal the big damage but I do the most with BLS - Envoy of the Beginning and cards like that. My only problem is when they just shuffle Odin into the Extra Deck but usually it's easy to bring it back or even go for a Borreload
@DOESITMATTER7734
@DOESITMATTER7734 4 жыл бұрын
Tell me more lol i help my boy build his decks but this one is hard to turbo out or mix an engine that synergize with it
@dbomba
@dbomba 4 жыл бұрын
@@DOESITMATTER7734 it doesn't really need a different engine. It's weird to say but with the new support Nordic are really fast. Like you can ideally bring up 2 Gods in 3 turns or even more if you can banish Alviss from the graveyard and use the revival effect banishing the tuner too. You end up 90% of the times with a God. Obviously to compete with Meta you need handtraps, I have 2 Ash, 2 Ghost Ogre and 2 Effect Veiler, to preserve the effect of the Link monster I use 3 Called by the Grave and cards like Forbidden Lance to protect my Gods during your opponent turn or to prevent an Impermanence on Gullveig, Forbidden Dress just for more protection and Forbidden Chalice as a secondary Effect Veiler that works in your turn too. The deck as many synergies with removal generic cards like Eater of Millions (you don't need all the extra deck) and BLS (you have a lot of Light and Dark monsters). I run 2 copies of Solemn Strike but you can put Judgment too. For the extra deck you can put the classic Knightmare Links but you'll just end up banishing them every game for Eater of Millions and they are expensive as hell so just bring 2 copies of the Gods and some random extra deck monsters you already have
@KyunaCookies
@KyunaCookies 4 жыл бұрын
@@dbomba AND THEN THEY ALL CLAPPED
@r3zaful
@r3zaful 4 жыл бұрын
@@dbomba run crackdown steal your opp monster then banish it with your link
@GreigaBeastDS
@GreigaBeastDS 4 жыл бұрын
It's really sad how these were Divine/Divine Beast and had one of the most epic duels in 5Ds, with so many effects and support, and then they came out.
@bebnebhere9350
@bebnebhere9350 4 жыл бұрын
Dzeeff: They're just too hard to summon to be played Gullvieg Of The Nordic Ascendent: well yes but actually no
@gbo5808
@gbo5808 4 жыл бұрын
When Loki Negates evenly matched...
@SakuraAvalon
@SakuraAvalon 4 жыл бұрын
Guy Bao Unless you use Evenly Matched on your turn, than Loki cannot.
@digiwatchtcg7625
@digiwatchtcg7625 4 жыл бұрын
this popped up on recommended and realized how much i love my ulti's of these. I actually think they may revamp them by this time next year...maybe in battles
@so0meone
@so0meone 4 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to point out real quick that Odin existed alongside ignition priority in the TCG. It did not actually lose to on-summon Traps (besides counter traps obviously) at the time it was relevant.
@chompyzilla
@chompyzilla 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you could activate the effect, but they would just chain their bottomless/torrential/compulse and their effect would then resolve before Orin’s protection resolved.
@payne9682
@payne9682 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know Dzeeff, they aren't meta, but the new link and effect monsters did made them playable and i duel at least one Nordic player every few days. Day 199 of waiting for new Volcanic support to arrive
@payne9682
@payne9682 4 жыл бұрын
@FullmetalBeard We stand strong together
@iliketurtles5180
@iliketurtles5180 4 жыл бұрын
@Trey Bradley C h i l d a b u s e
@burger5853
@burger5853 4 жыл бұрын
I see you in every comment section, anyways day 4 and 5 of waiting for masked HERO support
@burger5853
@burger5853 4 жыл бұрын
Also thanks for sticking up for me I also love nordics
@plzcme434
@plzcme434 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why they aren't DIVINE?
@Ray_SB
@Ray_SB 4 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, they are in the Anime
@elin111
@elin111 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ray_SB He's asking why they didn't keep the DIVINE attribute when translated to the TCG. The answer is because DIVINE is a pointless attribute.
@jameszetterman4487
@jameszetterman4487 4 жыл бұрын
@@elin111 Nah play Clear World in your Egyptian God deck for that secret sauce kappa
@bartabeta4287
@bartabeta4287 4 жыл бұрын
@@elin111 It does matter against Gozen Match !!!!!!!!
@thewhizkid3937
@thewhizkid3937 4 жыл бұрын
Only Yugi can play all three God Cards... But in reality, you can't even use them in tournament play.
@noahtackett6264
@noahtackett6264 4 жыл бұрын
Loki can negate Evenly Matched lol that's a good modern use for it Also remember Chaos Sorc? If your deck can summon it just use it to make Beatrice or Nirito. Great modern use for it and gives you more of those sweet negates or more graveyard setup
@user-uz8fm2dm2k
@user-uz8fm2dm2k 4 жыл бұрын
I think that The NORDIC archetype needs a field spell that can give them bonus effects like Odin can use it effects in both players turn and the same for Thor and Loki give him protection of card effects and for the other effect for the field spell that can change any nordic monster in the graveyard to the tuner monster that help Odin and Thor and Loki and a draw card to help the deck be better
@vonbon212
@vonbon212 4 жыл бұрын
Because nobody is worth thier power
@SpeezyOTB
@SpeezyOTB 3 жыл бұрын
This video would’ve synchronize well with the low-key TV show on a Wednesday lol. Great video nonetheless. I enjoy when you break down older cards and sets.
@rileyanthony6068
@rileyanthony6068 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vids .
@LomasneyAaron
@LomasneyAaron 4 жыл бұрын
They need a field spell that searches, is a OPT SP Summon from hand, gives the aseir monsters protection from everything that isn’t a destruction effect, can let the aseirs use their effects as quick effects, and also lets them come back from the GY without having to banish anything
@calebchometa1382
@calebchometa1382 4 жыл бұрын
Alright so quick fixes to make these better: 1. Make Thor and Odin's effects quick effects. 2. Make Loki's effect negate any spell it trap during any phase, not just during the battle phase.
@Nou45628
@Nou45628 4 жыл бұрын
They still won't see play but that's a start
@exxe2454
@exxe2454 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still rolling my eyes about the link monster not being able to summon fenrir.
@cax1175
@cax1175 4 жыл бұрын
Because they all got powercrept by Thanos.
@justinerickson5486
@justinerickson5486 2 жыл бұрын
I love playing my Nordic/Aesir Deck. It takes a lot of digging to find traps and spells that compliment it. But it's pretty good, if you put love into building your decks
@phantomnite
@phantomnite 2 жыл бұрын
That's the same with any deck**
@blazrrr-4082
@blazrrr-4082 4 жыл бұрын
What's up with God cards always ending up terrible?
@spartanq7781
@spartanq7781 4 жыл бұрын
They're hard to summon but aren't worth the trouble. Perhaps Konami are a bunch of atheists.
@thewhizkid3937
@thewhizkid3937 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to summon.
@anayos6726
@anayos6726 4 жыл бұрын
Spartan Q77 Not many people in Japan practice religion besides Buddhism. Not many Christians, Catholics, Hindu, Islamic, etc. In all honesty, their religion is their job.
@anayos6726
@anayos6726 4 жыл бұрын
Blazrrr - Bad to mediocre effects, strange and clunky variable stats, not much presence on the field, very vulnerable to spell and traps during the standby and main phases, so little protection; versatility is non-existent.
@spartanq7781
@spartanq7781 4 жыл бұрын
@@anayos6726 It was a joke obviously.
@luismessina2133
@luismessina2133 4 жыл бұрын
Konamy needs to remake the Nordic gods.
@domenzigart50
@domenzigart50 3 жыл бұрын
I mean now that called by the grave is limited to 1, it's harder to negate their resurection effect, and it's very eady to summon them with gullvieg, making them untargetable by card effects.
@monohead27
@monohead27 4 жыл бұрын
did you time this with the duellinks release or was this vid just a coincidence
@nemo9540
@nemo9540 4 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the six samurai deck, back then I loved how I could easily fill most of the field with cards in my first round, I still use it once in a while.
@changbobby7
@changbobby7 4 жыл бұрын
I summoned Odin, my opponent just attacked over it with honest then monster reborn it, least to say, I lost
@waltermalone216
@waltermalone216 4 жыл бұрын
That is savage as fuck.
@azaleacolburn
@azaleacolburn 3 жыл бұрын
Gullveig gives protection to an aesir monster it points to and it is really easy to bring oden out with literally any nordic monster. So for aggro decks with hand trap defense, nordic can be good.
@theasgardian7318
@theasgardian7318 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have played them at YCS Charlotte in 2011. I played a build at locals with 3 Skill Drain 3 Barbaros, tengu and horn of the phantom beast. It terrorized my plant synchro meta at locals
@darkpaw1522
@darkpaw1522 3 жыл бұрын
1:43 Looks like Asgard is experience Rangacrotch. My eyes...
@crucible1084
@crucible1084 4 жыл бұрын
i always loved the idea of the nordic deck bc of the mythology its based on, and itd be alot more fun to play if they just gave them their anime effects. because even then, i dont think itd be good enough for high up tournament play
@Mernom
@Mernom 4 жыл бұрын
The synchro need quick effect (perhaps a blanket immunity for Odin), and some stronger main deck lineups. Also, most of their support cards are traps (since it's 5d's, and normal spells don't exist there), so give them faster support.
@Lipanovski
@Lipanovski Жыл бұрын
2:12: "It's not a quick effect; I mean we're looking at cards from 2011, so we're not looking at quick effects." Shi En: "Lol. Lmao even."
@pyrotempestwing
@pyrotempestwing 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine my surprise when I keep facing Odin decks in Duel Links. And beat them with the 2 Amazoness Swordswoman in my Red-Eyes Deck.
@jasonliang2932
@jasonliang2932 3 жыл бұрын
You forget that Thor hangs out in the extra deck. You play him to counter your opponent's boss monsters that normally can't be dealt with, like Cocytus. Thor strips their protections and let's you wipe them with your effects or battle. In a stable meta like Duel Links, top decks gravitate towards summoning precisely the boss monsters countered by Thor. He is an invaluable and ideal extra deck monster. Also you aren't accounting for the excellent Aesir support cards, like Megingjord and Solemn Authority.
@RinaShinomiyaVal
@RinaShinomiyaVal 3 жыл бұрын
Thats Duel Links. And Cocytus is the worst Invoked Fusion in the TCG btw. The games play too differently.
@MJ-2797
@MJ-2797 4 жыл бұрын
1:32 those guys are a few feet away from a giant man thong
@p_romano1290
@p_romano1290 4 жыл бұрын
Hurts to love this deck...
@p_romano1290
@p_romano1290 4 жыл бұрын
@FD MZ Holy shit! Are you sure we are not the same person?? Dont say you play Lightsworns too?!??
@tylerosborne9770
@tylerosborne9770 4 жыл бұрын
One thing to be aware of, was that player priority was still a thing until April 2012, so that might be a cause for their effects to not be quick effects.
@chargebladeygo6889
@chargebladeygo6889 4 жыл бұрын
I am trying to remember the year that this happened but someone in a dragon duel tournament actually top with nordics or at least used them.
@Buzterer
@Buzterer 4 жыл бұрын
The new support makes it so now "you get what you paid for", a little 2 card comboend in a very lack-luster boss monster
@neoleo9566
@neoleo9566 4 жыл бұрын
My brother start playing yesterday xD I'm helping him out with the deck
@KyleLyre13
@KyleLyre13 3 жыл бұрын
My friend taught me to play Yugioh back in April 2020. He would run Nordic/Aesir and could 8/10 times summon Odin first turn, usually with a combo starting with Gullveig. While I get that Odin isn't exactly super effect-heavy it's a pretty solid deck.
@joshgrabinski
@joshgrabinski 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Loki would be a viable waking the dragon target in decks like paleo if it weren't for the "monsters have to be properly summoned first" rule and the fact that you need to banish something specific to get the effect. But the rule and card design exist so it's not good.
@lol_vevo
@lol_vevo 4 жыл бұрын
Leave my Duel Links meme deck alone!
@Zach-fy1sv
@Zach-fy1sv 4 жыл бұрын
I have a card I wonder if you could look at and give your opinion on it. Is packet swap a card that could be useful in going second strats. Maybe I am overvaluing the idea of the card but it seems to me that giving up something like lets say a jackrabbit for a potential link 2+ card from your opponent and place it where ever you want on your side of the field is pretty good. It also doesn't limit you in any other way. You can still use that link card you took to your advantage by activating its effects beyond just using it as materials. maybe its still just not good enough. Just want some thoughts.
@StardustNobody
@StardustNobody 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that definitely was looked over here, is that when these cards came out. Priority existed in the game, meaning when they came out Odin specifically did NOT lose to Bottomless/Compulsory etc. Obviously no longer a factor to consider, but definitely was part of the game when they were released.
@Dzeeff
@Dzeeff 4 жыл бұрын
It definitely still lost to Compulse. You'd just save the Compulse until after the window for priority has passed, and then when they use the effect you chain Compulse.
@thanellen8757
@thanellen8757 4 жыл бұрын
My best opinion to fix this deck lies in the nordic monsters themselves. Have them with extra effect such as (quick effect) like the vendread archetypes except when used as synchro materials. Example, when this "nordic beast monster" is used as a synchro material to summon Thor lord of the Aesir, (quick effect) Thor can activate its abilities during either players turn. During your opponents turn Thor lord of the Aesir can target one monster your opponent controls negate that monster effect and use it as if it was its own. If Thor lord of the Aesir would be destroyed by battle or by card effects you can banish this nordic monster instead, you can only activate both these effects once per turn. This would be a great way to make Aesir competitive if they ever make a new nordic monsters support.
@phantomnite
@phantomnite Жыл бұрын
Ok, but thor already has a negate effect, you dont need to slap another one on, it wont make him better
@TKDragon75
@TKDragon75 4 жыл бұрын
I just started building this, still going too, cause it looks cool.
@da_bestguy
@da_bestguy 2 жыл бұрын
This might not a competitive deck but is fun to play casually
@nemo9540
@nemo9540 4 жыл бұрын
Say what you like about yugioh cards as an artist I'm in awe of how the artists have created 21799 cards each with some really clever designs, granted some of those where reprints but to come up with a design for so many cards is such an incredible feat of imagination. I guess this is one of the aspects of this game that made me engage with it years ago, sure the anime was the first thing that grabbed my attention but the artwork has inspired me as an artist.
@Ragnarok540
@Ragnarok540 2 жыл бұрын
Some art is amazing but there are some that are really hard to see what was drawn, even if those cards have good effects that makes the cards unappealing.
@LukesYuGiOhChannel
@LukesYuGiOhChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Played against one a few months ago. I brought it back with Monster Reborn to use it against my opponent and win.
@babysinclairfan
@babysinclairfan 2 жыл бұрын
Doug's note at 0:27 brings up a good point. Whether or not a set is "good" depends on how much you like it. It's very subjective. For example, a set could be considered "good" for introducing strong cards, but that same set could be considered "bad" by a player who found those same cards unfair.
@JADGERBOMBS
@JADGERBOMBS 4 жыл бұрын
"Destroy IT". I would love a pennywise themed deck.
@thoseguy531
@thoseguy531 4 жыл бұрын
I think they would be decent if they got more legacy support they have a defined stratagey now at least that gives them the opportunity to summon the norse gods, so having more monsters that benefit off the link's effect and maybe a field spell that makes the aesir monsters effects quick effects ala orcustrated babel style and maybe helps swarm more would be much appreciated.
@spencersss1251
@spencersss1251 4 жыл бұрын
They either should’ve made a separate archetype for each Nordic monster or have them all work together. Because the fact that you need a separate type of tuner for each synchro limits it. It’s like putting 3 archetypes in one deck
@ObtainThePain
@ObtainThePain 3 жыл бұрын
The only possible way I could see the Aesir being good is if they all had erratas to where their effects and summoning materials are exactly the same as they were in 5ds. Then they wouldn't be locked into their own archetype, and would have some pretty nice effects.
@ElGoblino98
@ElGoblino98 3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying so hard right now to make this deck work. As a Norse Pagan this is a really cool and fun deck to play but it suffers from little to no synergy just being slow in general. They're link monster made them just alittle more viable but not by much. Hopefully they come out with more support in the future.
@dotteduelist07
@dotteduelist07 2 жыл бұрын
I played locals with nordics with the plant engine. It won a few local tournaments but that was it. Something I build after nationals.
@valkyrieregalia
@valkyrieregalia 4 жыл бұрын
If the big boss' main effect was a quick effect and if their respawn mechanic was triggered by simply being removed from the field, they would of been a lot more viable. Honestly, the new support should of gifted these additional effects to them or just made new versions of them with these (and perhaps other) updates.
@chrsrtzl
@chrsrtzl 4 жыл бұрын
I know it's not optimal, but I really enjoy my Nordic/Metaphys hybrid deck
@e-tan3911
@e-tan3911 4 жыл бұрын
It can do some funny things if you banish metaphys cards in the hand
@MrCleks
@MrCleks 4 жыл бұрын
The concept of the entire archetype is broken beyond salvation. Unless there are some legacy support that would make the Aesirs worth while, I don't think giving them any more "ease of access" to the big bosses would even matter. I would suggest generic spells or traps that do something solid on their own, which also have extra effects from the GY / banished when an Aesir got summoned out. Quick example right out of my brain - A trap that sends a Nordic Tuner from your deck to the GY (as cost) to change an opponent's card effect it chains to into "Your opponent destroy 1 card they control", and you can set this card from the GY back to the field when an Aesir got special summoned. With this, you can have one solid negation while you control an Aesir, then pop your own Aesirs and fuel their revival during the end phase at the same time, get your sweet payoff from their revival effects, rinse and repeat.
@nibal55
@nibal55 4 жыл бұрын
Blake Huynh I hve an other good idea...they could release an equip spell that makes aesir monster effects as quick effects..now how to access it always is easy.. link up to Isolde..dump the equip spell..summon dverg..make gullveig..once dverg hits grave u can get back the equip spell then combo off to Thor or Odin ...and finally equip..this assures an easy interruption every time ✨
@MrCleks
@MrCleks 4 жыл бұрын
@@nibal55 Focusing on equip spells like Nordic Relics is nice too. Iirc, Draupnir is a good card if you can actively destroy it. Maybe a Nordic monster that can special summon itself from hand by destroying a face-up Nordic Relic you control would be insanely helpful.
@SinnohPokedude
@SinnohPokedude 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this while I've been spending all of my gems in Duel Links trying to make a Aesir Deck 🙃
@azzuradyasrahma238
@azzuradyasrahma238 3 жыл бұрын
Its good in duel links Also you get watt,cardian,fortune lady, and also u get one of the best staple(the card that make a monster lose 800 attack and that monster get protection from any effect
@phantomnite
@phantomnite Жыл бұрын
@@azzuradyasrahma238 it's not, especially when they were first released. Fortune ladies were so much better and same with Blackwings. Nordics, in duel links are so much slower than here in the tcg aswell
@vladlucius6928
@vladlucius6928 4 жыл бұрын
I understand why people may not find them useful but I have an open mind so I’m always open to experiment
@t_monte_christo
@t_monte_christo 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed my Nordic Beasts deck! And won a couple of battles but it is true that it wasnt competitive!
@SJ-to3dt
@SJ-to3dt 4 жыл бұрын
I used to win a lot of duels on duel network as well as computer controlled opponents with the nordic deck and they were my favourites. So I can't relate with this video. It was fun to play that deck.
@INSANITYTOWN
@INSANITYTOWN 4 жыл бұрын
I remember dumpstering a Nordic deck with a simple Reliquished Turbo deck a while ago. I remember the guy in front of me bring out Odin and going, "ha I cant be destroyed by spells/traps" as I suck up his monster. A sad, sad day.
@1001011011010
@1001011011010 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Valkyrie of the Nordic Ascendent or w/e it's called was the "main" way they'd want players to go into Odin with that other card being more of a backup plan. But yeah, too much investment for too little payoff.
@inciaradible7144
@inciaradible7144 4 жыл бұрын
At the time of release, Guldfaxe was a fine card because Synchros were so prevalent, but nowadays it is just not worth running.
@thekluwn143
@thekluwn143 4 жыл бұрын
9:29 This is the reason...end of discussion.
@Halfdanr_H
@Halfdanr_H 2 жыл бұрын
Nordics and Six Samurais are my favourite decks of all time to play for fun.
@azurecreed9119
@azurecreed9119 4 жыл бұрын
You know the legendary heroes Nordic decks are great
@thanosv1168
@thanosv1168 4 жыл бұрын
Literally still playing only nordics lol. All the way since they came out. Got all 3 of them in ultimate rare as well. The link monster def helps them spam the field with an aesir instantly. The rest of the deck is just there to protect them or buff them up. I think their biggest weakness is that most of their support cards are traps. Would have been much better as spells.
@jefffregly20
@jefffregly20 4 жыл бұрын
YES that's so true! I have no idea why they would make them traps.
@phantomnite
@phantomnite Жыл бұрын
You dont need the traps tbh.
@omegalink314
@omegalink314 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Nordic arcetype, more of the aesthetic and lure. I made a custom card that are basically the Aesir monster with better effect, like how Loki effect is basically once per turn negete for spell/trap and so on (note, I dont want to you to review them at all)
@crimsonflareumbreon1290
@crimsonflareumbreon1290 4 жыл бұрын
But won’t a monster effect that can steal attack so you can put them at zero and basically can scow the person over if the had Thor Odin and Loki
@edwardneilloftheclanmacnei7057
@edwardneilloftheclanmacnei7057 4 жыл бұрын
I still play Nordics, I've made a tournament ready Nordic deck for April for when the new master rule is out as you get to easily summon cosmic blazer dragon and any of the Nordic God's after, I've won some duels with the deck against some top tier decks on dueling Nexus with the deck that I've made
@fernando9491
@fernando9491 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have that deck still?
@phantomnite
@phantomnite 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't qauser dragon require a synchro tuner? I'm curious how the deck works
@MrTAG-re5ym
@MrTAG-re5ym 4 жыл бұрын
Dzeeff: *makes video about bad archetype which just came out in Duel Links for extra clicks* Also Dzeeff: *doesn’t mention Duel Links at all* I see you Dzeeff
@darkrulerbob
@darkrulerbob 4 жыл бұрын
I dont remember to well burn wasn't priority a mechanic back then? Couldn't you call priority with Odin back then when you summon him? I could be wrong but I think I remember people doing that.
@trentchapman1819
@trentchapman1819 4 жыл бұрын
I remember buying like 5 boxes of that set just for six sams stuff and max c lol
@denisjuarez9346
@denisjuarez9346 4 жыл бұрын
My Nordic deck is with Isolde and PK, you make odin and a set fog blade Plus solems to protec him. Is a shame but You can make the play every turn.
@photographychannel3875
@photographychannel3875 3 жыл бұрын
Its possible to make a good nordic deck with all three gods, where you get em all 3 on the field. But you are right, they have their weak points. There are alot of ways how to counter them and remove them from the field, but there are also alot of traps and spells that are of that nordic archtype and properly used, it keeps the god cards still pretty decent, not perfect, but decent.
@duelomania1876
@duelomania1876 3 жыл бұрын
Just put 3 "Dark Ruler no more" and some hand tramps
@CrimsonWyan
@CrimsonWyan 4 жыл бұрын
I have Odin and I was two when these cards were released
@Marasune1
@Marasune1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still playing Nordic Metaphys, but the new alfars solo effect seems impossible to use without having extenders like reborn
@thesheq5023
@thesheq5023 4 жыл бұрын
Nordic beasts and lighssworn nordics were pretty good
@Nyghtking
@Nyghtking 4 жыл бұрын
I suck at suggestions at making cards better, but here we go. For the nordic gods give them something that makes it so they can't be removed from the field except by destruction, make it so they can remove any nordic card to revive themselves and not just the ones limited to their archetype, and make odin's effect a quick effect. These suggestions are based on keeping the theme the cards already have but they would need a much bigger overhaul probably.
@ENCHANTMEN_
@ENCHANTMEN_ 4 жыл бұрын
one thing I did enjoy is that the characters who used the Nordics were basically the main characters of a different yugioh anime with their own special magic glowing marks and everything
@Crystalwizardtrue
@Crystalwizardtrue 4 жыл бұрын
After years mine is still going and is pretty good too,its tad risky but its consistent
@lastson7390
@lastson7390 4 жыл бұрын
Crystalwizardtrue what does your build look like?
@varisrevolver4061
@varisrevolver4061 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact the Nordic Gods has a link monster which can easily bring out a Nordic. When it's summoned banish up to 3 cards from your hand or field and banish that many Nordic monsters from your deck
@juni2102a
@juni2102a 4 жыл бұрын
Can you give a shout out to gusto's? One of my main deck back in the day and would like it mentioned. Thank you!
@constantinwilliams9388
@constantinwilliams9388 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dzeeff. Just had a few suggestions for the next 'Why Nobody Plays' series: 1. Yubel (including Terror incarnate and Ultimate Nightmare) 2. Cyber End Dragon 3. Red-Eyes Black Dragon
@zetokaiba5867
@zetokaiba5867 4 жыл бұрын
Yubel: Easily removed and lame boss monster Cyber: They look ugly Red eyes: Blue eyes
@phantomnite
@phantomnite 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, people now play red eyes. Sure, it's only for dragoon but that's still something
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