E165-6 - Daniel Descalso & Oliver Marmol Ejected for Barking About Lance Barrett's Strike 1 to Pagés

[@vetoland92]

That Joey Chesnut reference is spot on 😂😂

[@elhugo13]

man glad i found this channel, that Joey Chesnut was unexpected but a nice reference.

[@matthewvidrine174]

Marmol just likes to be ejected at this point.

[@ChristianClayton2000]

It helps his team go on a good run. The last time him and Descalso were ejected from the game in Milwaukee, they went on an absolute tear and had the best record of baseball for a whole. Do I smell déjà vu?

[@BobSchmidt]

MLB seriously needs to get rid of the computers and tablets in the clubhouses during games. it is getting annoying how much people bitch about everything now. baseball has turned in to a sport of whiners.

[@mbdg6810]

And arguing correct calls too ugh.

[@BobSchmidt]

@@mbdg6810 they don't care anymore they argue anything close. because there's no repercussions for it. so what if at the end of the game they expressed their displeasure and get kicked out. they're right back the next day. all ejections should come with a nine inning mandatory suspension. for pitchers 3-day suspension and increases for any additional infraction. and umpires too. each month if you fall into the bottom 8 umpires in accuracy you get placed on probation for the next month. if you remain in the bottom eight you get relegated to the minors. and the top 8 from the miners get brought up to the show. and one more thing about ejections, if you don't immediately leave the field once ejected, for every 10 seconds you remain you get another day suspension. no more arguing, there is no point to it, so respect the game and stop making it look stupid.

[@holmj12]

I saw the pi sign

[@ModernCowboy78]

I wonder if these guys ever feel stupid for arguing correct calls.

[@frankrobinson47]

I wonder if these umpires ever feel stupid for arguing about the bad calls they make.

[@Volante31921]

Cards won 7-4 so...probably not in this case.

[@mbdg6810]

They would if they got suspended for it.

[@BobSchmidt]

@@ModernCowboy78 I think the umpire should start questioning whether batters should have swung at the bad pitch. if people question what I did all day long I want to ditch some back to them when they fuck up. umpiring puts a human element to the game so it's not always black and white. if you don't want an umpire to screw you out of a win don't put yourself in a position for an umpire to do it.

[@mark38090ify]

​@@frankrobinson47but the call was right...

[@ronpeacock9939]

when they cover their face, they DON'T want their lips read... and in this case, he don't want the world to know what he's saying... 2 coaches.. 1 correctly called pitch... 2 ejections. MLB needs to suspend for this. I grew up hearing chirping.. these guys don't chirp... right to blatant getting personal.

[@BobSchmidt]

@@ronpeacock9939 I agree I don't even watch baseball anymore because it just saddens me how they destroyed the game with spreadsheets.

[@UncleVatred]

To be fair, the Cardinals never said anything about looking at video. Barrett brought that up on his own.. as if every team isn't doing it as well.

[@schweve53]

Hi Lindsay, I have a request, and stop me if you heard this before. Seen you allude to umpire hand signals at moments when it was relevant to the moment. But I would sure love to see a complete clip devoted just to those hand signals. Ever since you pointed them out, I can’t stop seeing them. Sure would appreciate it. I still love your work.

[@ChefLynnGB]

Marmol is a legend in his own mind. His time was over at 22. 😂

[@DinkinFlicka11]

Marmol being a clown? Shocker

[@caras2004]

An announcer that actually said an umpire was doing his job

[@snoopyloftis]

They need to ban electronic devices from the dugout.

[@PhilliesNostalgia]

What? A batter or pitcher can’t look at what they are not doing as good at? Because that would cover that too. You didn’t think that through

[@DoctorWho14615]

@@PhilliesNostalgia They have been doing that for years without electronic devices... maybe the coaches can pay attention to coaching versus barking at umps over correct calls.

[@BobSchmidt]

@@PhilliesNostalgia baseball isn't about looking at spreadsheets. if you want to know data on your opponent then you better keep it in your head. the game should be played between the lines not in some statisticians computer.

[@John-tx1wk]

@@PhilliesNostalgia "A batter or pitcher can’t look at what they are not doing as good at?" The ability to do that has been around for ages, the scoreboard for overall and the scorebook for more detail.

[@austin.draude]

​@@John-tx1wkif you want to watch your at-bat or bitch about a correctly called strike, go back down the tunnel to the video room to do it. That's why it's there.

[@kyleweir689]

WHY do they have the iPad if they can’t use the iPad to review bad calls?

[@mptr1783]

bigger question is why did the Cards give this guy an extension?

[@jonathonervin7845]

The higher intensity from the umps is amazing. Give these crybaby coaches exactly what they're giving.

[@jamesrivera6068]

Well done by the HPU

[@totallykoolyeah]

...think it was the cards' 3rd ipad coordinator who was chirping

[@brianmullaney6237]

Why doesn't Barrett just walk all the way over to the dugout to yell at them - he was already halfway there.

[@1969EType]

The MLBUA manual wants plate staying inside the dirt circle. This was an exceptional situation because plate was pointing out Descalso’s use of video to argue judgement which as Lindsay cited is an automatic ejection. There are some older stadiums where the umpires have to walk into the dugout to get to their locker room. Other than that, there is simply no reason for an umpire to enter or even get near either dugout. It happens sure…but, it’s not how their superiors want them to handle things.

[@Turnip199]

Keep up the great content, Lindsay!

[@brianvernaglia9449]

What did he do? I don't understand. Other than arguing balls and strikes of course which can get you tossed..

[@shethjrebbell]

? He argued balls and strikes…

[@matthewvidrine174]

he was using the iPad to essentially taunt the umpire for being "bad" (which he wasn't in this case)

[@benmarshall5132]

Marmol is one of the biggest babies in the league

[@PapaVanTwee5]

He's big for a baby, absolutely tiny compared to Lance Barrett.

[@urboyterry]

Diehard cardinals fan- but marmol makes me laugh so hard. Shortest tough guy of all time

[@byronhorde5892]

Even though the Ump made the right call, I will be glad when either the Automated System or Challenge System is in place.

[@BobSchmidt]

@@byronhorde5892 it's going to be worse for batters and I'm gonna laugh

[@alvinthecat8426]

Pirates, Cardinals - something in common?

[@kcnickster]

Umpire left his position to argue isn't that grounds for ejection?

[@paulnguyen8910]

Descalso & Mármol are through for nite, tagged with game misconducts for argument with referee.

[@stevebabiak6997]

Marmol covering his mouth because he knows Jomboy will read his lips - so we know that those weren’t pleasant words being spoken ;)

[@neilflood6508]

I think the umpire induced these ejections by his attitude towards the bench. Irrespective of whether he made the right call, he escallated the situation by walking towards and shouting at the bench. There is often talk that a player or coach losing their call is automatically ejected, and if you use that standard here the home plate umpire would have been tossed. There needs to be more visable umpire discipline when they step out of line.

[@mr.larocca5150]

100% . The Unpire escalated the situation. It was bad form. An umpire should never inflame a situation. This is not a controversial take at all, but it seems like this channel drifts more and more towards pro- umpire propaganda as time goes on.

[@neilflood6508]

@@mr.larocca5150 I agree on most of what you say. I don't think the channel is overtly pro umpire, most of the time the umpire is right and the channel agrees. However the channel could do a better job of calling out umpires when they are wrong. MLB's umpiring problem to me is not accuracy of calls but attitude between players/coaches and umpires for which there is only visible discipline for one side. Some umpires are good at de-escallation while others seem to look to escalate matters.

[@mr.larocca5150]

@neilflood6508 Fair analysis. I agree. I think the channel does a poor job of interpreting spirit of the law vs. letter of the law controversy.

[@coolluke]

No one is ever ejected for losing their cool. There are standards for removal from the game. Lindsay has been referencing these lately in videos. If you violate those standards then you can justifiably be ejected. None of the standards say anything about losing one's cool.

[@DJTexan]

Keep your hands to yourself, Marquez.

[@OldBenKenobi2318]

As a Cards fan I have never liked Marmol. It feels like the only reason he is here is because of his age. It’s pretty ridiculous when some of the players are almost as old as you. Or older than you. Which was the case when Pujols, Molina, and Wainwright were playing. I don’t want a manager who is able to still play in the majors. I want a manager who looks like he has been around the game for baseball for forty years. Someone who is actually taken seriously. This young manger movement is ridiculous. It would also help Marmol just a little bit if he was a good manager.

[@TheSpryguy73]

Oli is more than worthless. He is clueless on most other things baseball, why not the strike zone. :)

[@KP-wi9sm]

I have never been a fan of Marmol, but a lifelong Cards fan. I have watched several videos on this channel but don't recall one ever chastising Umpires over their horrible strike zone understanding. On the contrary plenty offering excuses and loopholes for bad zone implementation. To be fair, perhaps I just haven't seen one. If that is the case I recall my critique. Obviously there are going to be missed calls. No issue there. But be consistent. The problem here was not just this pitch, which is borderline, but the other pitches throughout the game that were way off the plate on both sides. Bad Umpiring is bad Umpiring. Let's take away their excuses and implement the computers. While not a fan of instant replay or many other changes in the game, this one is long overdue and would eliminate the Umps thinking anyone wants to see them be part of the show.

[@OldBenKenobi2318]

Getting rid of human umps is idiotic. Human umps have been a thing for over a century. The game is beautiful the way it is. Making the game robotic takes away a lot of the charm of baseball. Let’s also not forget the fact that umpires have improved. A quick google search tells you that. They have been the best they ever have been. People like you just think having a 2D strike zone plastered on your screen makes you an umpire.

[@probaddie456]

π

[@jjbre3920]

Came here to say this. Great eye!

[@wesnall6796]

Nice try, they didn’t reference the computer, Barrett did. Listen to his statement “you think I don’t know you’re looking at ________ for information.” He threw him out based on an accusation. Cheap ejection.

[@critter2]

Likey they did

[@OldBenKenobi2318]

They were thrown out for arguing balls and strikes. That’s an automatic ejection.