Each Time Jesus Was Called God, He Denied It

This video explores three different verses in the gospel of John in which people mistakenly think Jesus is claiming to be equal with God (John 5:18; 10:33; 20:28) and we learn from Jesus’ responses that he denies this claim. Instead, Jesus claims to be the Son of God who is empowered by God. Other New Testament passages are examined to see how Jesus views God to be someone different from himself.
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[@aaronsanchez3141]

It's difficult for people to denounce traditional beliefs and actually believe scripture.

[@lizzard13666]

Not if you denounce post-Biblical traditions, and stick to what the Bible teaches!

[@tongakhan230]

Difficult but not impossible. Take for instance the Jews who were tradition enslaved persons. (John 8:31, 32) Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had believed him: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” Most of Jesus' first Century disciples were Jews.

[@aaronsanchez3141]

@@tongakhan230 exactly.

[@mkovis8587]

What did Thomas call Jesus ? 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. "my Lord and my God" Did Jesus rebuke him for it ? No, Thomas finally believed.

[@tongakhan230]

@@mkovis8587 : AFTER Thomas realized that Jesus was an ANGEL of God, he said what others before have said. Did everyone who were present fall down and worship Jesus after Thomas said what he did? Afraid to look Jesus in the face lest they should perish? (Exodus 33:20) But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”

[@YouTubeMaster1611]

Anyone that reads the New Testament for themselves can come to no conclusion other than Jesus is not God himself. Read the books of the apostles and it is clear they viewed God and Jesus separately and God greater. Glory to Jesus and I personally know how emotionally we can love Jesus because he joined us in our suffering as humans AND Jesus and I have the same Father God! Glory!

[@DamianS1893]

Apparently not anyone... 3 Persons but 1 God= The Father, The Son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit is the Triune Godhead. Jesus Christ has always existed with The Father and Holy Spirit... Jesus Christ is The Alpha / Beginning and The Omega / End.

[@Somedude2020]

​@@DamianS1893you can't have it both ways, you have three god's there like it or not.

[@samuelcallai4209]

​​@@DamianS1893do you think you'd get to that conclusion on your own just by reading the new testament without prior indoctrination?

[@DamianS1893]

@@samuelcallai4209 NLT Bible Matthew 28:16-20 The Great Commission Then the eleven disciples left for Galilee, going to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw Jesus, they worshiped him-but some of them doubted. Jesus came and told his disciples, I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commandments I have given you. And be sure of this... I am with you always, even to the end of the age.

[@DamianS1893]

Got a question for You... (NLT Bible) Matthew 28:17 Why do the disciples worship Jesus... If Jesus is Not equally God?

[@Zipfreer]

Deuteronomy 6:4-9 One God and 1 Timothy 2:5. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus;

[@dlingfasin6826]

The Trinity is also one God, nobody is saying that there is more than one God

[@Zipfreer]

@@dlingfasin6826 trinity doctrines is the fabrications of man not in scriptures and there not way that you can describe it as so only going outside of scriptures hence it is a false narrative and a doctrine easily proven by scriptures and historical evidence of its existence

[@Zipfreer]

@@dlingfasin6826 seems KZbin taking away my response, follow false trinity just makes you another false teacher of councils of men in Rome in counterfeit Christianity

[@dlingfasin6826]

@@Zipfreer The Trinity is not only inside the Bible (the creator of this video and every unitarian video in this site are doing olympic levels of mental gymnastics and taking verses out of context to justify their heresy. Arianism was condemned and debunked in the 4th century by the actual church and all christians. Go do your history. Even just calling the early church (the real one) and its teachings ´councils of men in Rome´ screams a profound level of ignorance in the history of the religion you supposedly follow.

[@ScottJackson.]

@@dlingfasin6826 God has no equal Isaiah 46:5 KJV

[@colingr318]

You speak so nicely and explain things in a simple and straightforward way that is so easy to understand. Excellent work, and thank you for these pearls of truth.

[@bobjames3748]

He doesn't explain well, he actually avoids the many scriptures that speak of Jesus as God that is written. Yes Jesus as the Man Christ DID NOT GRASP AFTER The DIVINE PREROGATIVES. He could not, in his role or mode as Son. But Jesus is God ,the only true God as Father as well as the Comforter, maybe reading slowlllly John 14th chap. You can see that.

[@colingr318]

@@bobjames3748 Maybe you read John 14 backwards. 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, *the man Christ Jesus;*

[@bobjames3748]

@@colingr318 The one God is Jesus as to his nature as Spirit. The human b Nature is the Christ the Son . What you fail to see is that Jesus is more than the Son, he is the Father also. If Jesus is called God, then he is as the only true God the Father.Isa. 9:6,John 1:1,14,Jude 25, Zech 14:9, Rev. 19:11-16 ,Rev 1:8 ,11, 4:8, 22:13,16,20 Jn 20:28 The Lord of Me, The God of me, spoken to Jesus and not denied by him after the death of the Christ upon his resurrection, he was God manifest in the flesh. How do you miss that Jesus is the Father and Comforter in John 14:?! How is it you don't know that God is our Father and there is only one God and if Jesus is called God, he is the FATHER! THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THAT GOD BEGOT A BODY OF FLESH, THE CHRIST, The man Christ is Jesus and the Lord God is Jesus. The Father is not a separate or other being, he is the only God and he has the Logos or plan or idea that was with him and was God as one cannot separate one's idea of expression from himself. The Word in time, became flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus is God from eternity and God in Christ, the same Lord and his name is Jesus as he has the Father's name

[@NathanKwadade]

@@colingr318you seem to be reading backwards yourself. Jesus was fully God and fully human because He emptied himself of His divinity and took on the nature of man unto himself. Unitarians read the Bible with utter blindness and oblivious of the truth that Jesus Christ who did NOT consider equality with God a robbery but emptied himself of His divine nature and took on the nature of a man and even that unto death, death on the cross. You misinterpreted scripture.

[@colingr318]

@@NathanKwadade Thank you. I'll examine that scripture further.

[@DamianS1893]

Who is The Alpha and Omega in The Book of Revelation? It's Jesus Christ

[@johnspartan98]

The reader of Revelation should keep in mind that what they are reading is described as: i) the revelation of Jesus Christ; ii) the testimony of Jesus Christ; iii) which God gave to Jesus; iv) which Jesus gave to an Angel; v) which John testified to; (Revelation 1:1-2). *Revelation 1:8; Revelation 22:13* “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the LORD God (kyrios ho theos = YAHWEH), “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” "kyrios ho theos" always applies to YHWH, not to Jesus. That is why translators used "the LORD God....the Almighty." Jesus is never referred to as the LORD God YHWH or the Almighty. The one “who is and who was and who is to come” is defined by a correct understanding of the context. Revelation 1:4 and 5 which reads: *_“Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before His throne, AND from Jesus the Messiah, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.”_* In Revelation 1:4-5 there is a separation between “the one who was, is, and is to come” and the Messiah. The one “who is, and who was and who is to come” is God (YHWH). People who study Revelation need to realize from the start the following truths and then read on with understanding: i) it's the revelation of Jesus Christ; ii) it's the testimony of Jesus Christ; iii) WHICH YHWH GAVE TO JESUS; iv) which Jesus gave to an Angel; v) which John testified to; (Revelation 1:1-2). So the voice in Revelation 1:8 and 1:11( a contested verse) is an ANGEL conveying to John the words of YHWH verbatim that the ANGEL would also have received verbatim from Jesus. How will God YHWH come? He comes by revealing himself through the person of Jesus Messiah just as He did the first time. "Alpha and Omega" are Greek letters. Neither God nor Jesus are Greek letters. This title belongs to YHWH, not Jesus. Most titles and names are interpreted in a figurative sense, and the context will determine who the title is applied to. Many titles for YHWH are sometimes conferred upon Jesus in the NT. The context determines whether the title is referring to YHWH or Jesus.....but these shared titles do not mean Jesus is YHWH. The phrase “the Alpha and Omega,” is referred to by Hebrew scholars as a Hebraism. It was in common use among ancient Jewish Commentators to designate the whole of anything, "from the beginning to the end." For example: ‘Adam transgressed the whole law from Aleph to Tau'. YHWH is truly the beginning and the end of all things, while Jesus is the beginning and the end because he is the firstborn from the dead, the Author and Finisher of our faith, the Man by whom YHWH will judge the world, and the man responsible for the age of Grace and the Kingdom age to come (see Heb. 1:10). ---------------------------------- *The First and the Last* can refer to YAHWEH in the OT and Jesus in the NT but that doesn't mean Jesus is YAHWEH being referred to by that title. This should be obvious by a reading of Revelation 1:17-18. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as one dead. And he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid! I am the first and the last, 18 and the Living One, and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of the grave. YAHWEH was never dead, therefore Jesus is referred to as the first and the last without actually being YAHWEH. The phrase, “the First and the Last,” is a title that is used five times in the Bible, twice in Isaiah in reference to God (44:6; 48:12) and three times in Revelation in reference to the Son of God (1:17; 2:8; 22:13). In the Old Testament, YHWH is “the First and the Last.” Isaiah 41:4, it speaks of YHWH as *"having called forth the generations of men, and was with the first of them and is with the last of them."* Obviously the phrase *“the First and the Last”* is connected with YHWH calling forth the first and last generations. *_“Who has done this and carried it through, calling forth the generations from the beginning? I, the LORD (YHWH ADONAI)-am with the first of them and with the last-I am He.”_* Isaiah 41:4 Do you see that God called forth the generations in the Old Testament? In the NT times, God has conferred that authority on His Son. Thus, it is easy to see why the Lord Jesus is called “the First and the Last” in the book of Revelation. It will be Jesus the Messiah who will call forth the generations of people from the grave to enter in to everlasting life. God gave Jesus the authority to raise the dead (John 5:25-27). In all the works achieved by Jesus Messiah, surely he is the 'first and the last' appointed human prophet to redeem mankind from the power of sin. Jesus is also the "first from among the dead:" *_And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy._* Colossians 1:18 The conclusion is that the title belongs to God himself and he has given that title to His Son. There is nothing in this title that makes Jesus the one true God YHWH. The Bible teaches God is the Father of Jesus Messiah. There is only one YHWH and only one begotten Son of YHWH.

[@frankjones5283]

Yes ..Someone who was dead. Rev 1:17 Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, The Lord God raised Jesus from the dead.

[@letstalkbiblewithshun.s]

1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 2 Corinthians 5:19 King James Version 19 To wit, that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

[@bobjames3748]

They don't believe in the Book of Revelation, that is to plain calling Jesus the Lord God Almighty.

[@bobjames3748]

@@frankjones5283 You do know that Jesus said he would raise himself from the dead and thus he is that God.

[@aaroningram9988]

Great content, brother. It seems straight forward to me to just accept one Lord and one God. For me, when you simply turn loose of the idea that Jesus HAS to be God, everything clicks. Really enjoyed your interview with Dr. Dale Tuggy as well. Keep up the good work.

[@aaronsanchez3141]

Great point. Especially when scriptures say the Messiah needed to be a man.

[@tongakhan230]

This should help. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ Only the one Jesus and his disciples address as Father is God. Jesus is a SON of God whom God SENT on a mission. (John 1:34) And I have seen it, and I have given witness that this one is the Son of God.”

[@aaroningram9988]

@@ntxn9336 "People just don't know their Bible at all." Could be a contributing factor on either side, but certainly not the main issue of why there are differing opinions on this subject. It's not really a valid argument in this case.

[@tongakhan230]

@@ntxn9336 : The whole purpose of Satan making Jesus into God was to destroy the value of Jesus' sacrifice (in the minds of people. Not actually though). Hebrews 9:. 24 For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that HE NOW APPEARS BEFORE GOD on our behalf. If God sacrificed HIMSELD to pay it to HIMSELF, then it would be similar to someone paying HIMSELF some money. Nonsensical.

[@aaroningram9988]

@@ntxn9336 Would you affirm that Jesus has a God?

[@JK-1122]

It’s so nice to see a new video on this channel. I’m currently in a small bible study group and we are going through the book of John. They are all trinitarians and it’s frustrating sometimes. But I’m there so I can be around others who at least believe in Jesus. The videos on this channel will help me explain to them why I’m a Biblical Unitarian as we continue to study John. Please keep posting new videos. 🙏🏻 🙂

[@mrsegagamecube6419]

You going to BSF? I do and John is what we are studying too. I'm in the same boat.

[@tongakhan230]

JWs are God's last days' people (Isaiah 43:10). Try studying with them. 'No man has SEEN God AT ANY TIME' (1 John 4:12,20) is very clear. Jesus was never God.

[@MelissaK-lh4ig]

No one has heen his spirit, Tonga.. you have to read in context. Jesus was seen because he became man. You should read these verses: 1 John 5:20, John 1:14, 1:14 (after read 1 John 1:1-2), 1:18, 10:30, Isaiah 44:6, Revelation 22:13, Revelation 1:8, John 12:44-45, Luke 7L16, Exodus 3:14 (after read John 8:58, same words in Hebrew), John 5:23. John 5:31-32 - Philippians 2:3-11 (this literally says Jesus is God). Matthew 7:20-24. The disciples worshiped Jesus: Luke 24:49-53, John 9:38, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, Matthew 2:11. The Father, Yahweh, says that Jesus is God: Hebrews 1:8-12. Every knee will bow for Jesus: Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10-11. Jesus is the Begin and the End, He is God: Revelation 22:12-13 > Revelation 1:8 > Revelation 4:8. @@tongakhan230

[@tongakhan230]

@@MelissaK-lh4ig : When John wrote that 'no man has seen God AT ANY TIME' he is obviously talking about a form that humans CAN SEE. Spirits CANNOT BE SEEN ANYWAY. Was Jesus God in a form that humans can see? The answer would probably be YES. Then explain John's statement please? Just citing a load of scriptures???? Unless the Bible has contradictory teachings, we must reconcile all scripture with the above TRUTH. I can help with one scripture at a time if it needs explaining IF it seems to contradict the above truth.

[@womanatwellworshiptheFather]

❤when I explained to my church that I was not a Trinitarian, they said "you can't be a member, but you can visit" I was like "visit i will" 😊

[@gtxoiltastebad]

Man this is brilliant . I'm not a fan of any Christian Sect. But i have to give respect to the Unitarian Christians. You are a breath of fresh air. Reasonable. Logical and very admirable . No mental gymnastics just straight discussion using reason and logic. Ya'll are awesome

[@lizzard13666]

What religion do you subscribe to?

[@gtxoiltastebad]

@@lizzard13666 I'm agnostic. I don't subscribe to any . They all have flaws nd corruption

[@lizzard13666]

@@gtxoiltastebad I agree with you that all religious aren't perfect. But the way I see it, the people aren't what matters as much as the belief itself! In fact, the Christian worldview explicitly tells us that we won't be perfect. Christian churches are like hospitals for the sick. If you're perfectly healthy you don't need a hospital. We all need churches, imperfect as they are. Maybe God is calling you to do your part to help make them better? I heard a really cool saying that is one of the reasons I stayed in a church; "Not a perfect church, a perfect Saviour".

[@gtxoiltastebad]

@@lizzard13666 I agree a house of worship can be very benificial. But it can also be a great tool for the wicked. I'll give you an example. Trinity exists no where in the bible. and was created by the church 300 years after christ. Now a house of worship has turned into a house of control by demonic forces. Now sending a person to this place isn't going to fix him. Its going to make him worse. The church has no right to disrespect God by making trinity when God forbids it in the most important Commandment. The 1st Commandment. In this sense... You can see why the church isn't the best place for clairty . Do you agree?

[@lizzard13666]

@@gtxoiltastebad Yeah, I'm a Biblical Unitarian/Christadelphian, and I've spent years studying the various Trinity models, so I'm aware there are problems! That still falls under my previous comment! God doesn't expect us to be perfect, He expects us to be faithful!

[@darcyvanloo6092]

Except when He said 'before Abraham was I AM' and then they tried to stone Him because they knew full well what He was saying.

[@shanederry2691]

If you are implying or claiming Jesus was claiming to be God you are wrong. Nobody at the trial of Jesus said "We heard him claim to be God". Being consistent with translating Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I am he". Revelation 13:8 says Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Yet this didn't happen until many years later. Yes, Jesus was planned to come before Abraham existed.

[@darcyvanloo6092]

@@shanederry2691 Non sense . Jesus is God, if you don’t believe it you are not a Christian.

[@shanederry2691]

@@darcyvanloo6092 No, he's not. And you sure as hell ain't my judge or anybody else's. You're an idolater and deceiver. Don't ever judge me again.

[@jamiesimms7084]

​@@darcyvanloo6092on the contrary you are less close to being a Christian for believing it. The Trinity is the Mark of The Beast. It's a man's number 666. It represents the unholy transgression created by man to dishonour God and the sacrifice of his Son. You divide God with this false belief and disrespect the love of him and his son. The irony is this dividing and disrespect is put forward as the opposite, as unity and honour.

[@yasaaley]

@@darcyvanloo6092 Yes, Jesus is God in the sense he himself explained it in John 10:31-38. There he explained that if he is called the Son of God or even God because he was sanctified and sent to earth by the Father, that doesn't mean he was claiming equality with the Father and therefore he was not blaspheming.

[@paragonpiper4081]

Trinitarians are taught this doctrine from the start and view scriptures through that lens. But if one simply reads the texts for what they actually say, it’s said over and over that God is the Father, and Jesus is the Lord, his Son. It’s very plainly written. All sorts of mental gymnastics have to done to make Jesus God. And if it’s not answered within the trinity lens, it becomes a mystery. Which means Jesus failed, because he said he came to reveal God.

[@KezzaTianzun]

All kinds of mental gymnastics need to be done? No, Jesus calls himself Alpha and Omega - this is God's title alone.

[@TheSwordfish009]

@@KezzaTianzun Research the grammatical error in that translation. Btw... it wasn't Alpha and Omega... it was Aleph and Tev. Jesus didn't even speak Greek. He spoke Hebrew and Aramaic. Btw... you may also find that that Aleph/Tev is not supposed to be read out loud in the text and not nouns. They're grammatical markers kind of like a comma. Look into it.

[@bobjames3748]

Do you read any other passages than a couple per verses when it is speaking of Jesus in his nature as many and actually see the ones that call Jesus God? ...I didn't think so.

[@bobjames3748]

​​@@TheSwordfish009Says the person who pretends they know something about language over people who have done the Greek translations for more days than you have read someone telling you squat. Jesus didn't write this, others who knew Greek dis, so that is shot down. You assume he didn't and where you came up with that is absurd.any He rewa especially in Commerce and Religion knew Greek or enough to speak it. But Jesus wasn't calling himself this, others did . I have come to the conclusion that Unitarians that deny Jesus Deity are a total AntiChrist religion and with out a doubt burn eternally in the lake of fire. They are just as wrong on other doctrines and when you actually see them, they are without any Holiness. You say it wasn't Alpha and Omega, but that simply isn't the facts. You assume none of the Apostles knew Greek and that is a fanciful idea,.

[@TheSwordfish009]

@bobjames3748 every time someone referred to him as God or claiming to be God, Jesus denied it. He said over and over again that he is the SON of God and is subordinate to Him (Yahweh).

[@ken440]

This video does very well, like many others explaining this issue, it is so clear it makes trinitarians into complete knuckleheads to not see this. To not think through the logic presented. Added to what is said here, all the references made here to "Christ" are saying "anointed" or "anointed one" as "christ" is derived from greek 'christos" which means "anointed." This actually to me points to dishonesty in translation. Everywhere we see Christ we should see Anointed, in context to text. But translation way back in religious church terminology turned the greek word for "anoint" into a religious name, and Luther didnt fix that detail, so its stuck in the craw of churchianity. Those verses read out here, like 2Cor5:18 "but all this is from God who reconciled us to Himself through Christ" and in that its true meaning is ".....reconciled us to Himself through the anointed" and we ask ourselves "anointed what" and it is super obvious, as an offspring Of David as promised, the messiah, that this "christ" means the anointed son of David, the promised Messiah !!" All kings are "anointed." All the explanations here about Jesus representing, imaging, saying and doing what God did through him are meaning just that, Jesus is doing this and saying all this in book of John, through Gods ANOINTING !! Its all so obvious that it staggers me the trinitarian majority is so blind, and it can only be a spiritual blindness brought on by their own stubborn inability to truly seek truth, but they only subscribe to church doctrine without that personal "seek out your (own) salvation with fear and trembling." Something that after nearly 40 years as a trinitarian, just the same in accepting denominational dogma, I began to do 6 years ago, and it all just exploded into plain view. I had complacently let others tell me what verses meant, like that Jesus is God, lies every one. !! Wake up trinitarian who slumbers with only part truth, time grows short. Dont rely on your majority position, it is very unbiblical for a majority to be in the truth!

[@frankjones5283]

Amen .. and Anyone who is anointed required someone higher up to anoint him.

[@ken440]

@@frankjones5283 yep 😁

[@XX-qf5zj]

Good points. I would just add that God demands that we practice and speak the truth whether it be popular or not. If we look at the majority of created beings it may be that most are actually loyal worshipers of God. (Taking into account the numerous spirit beings that exist and outnumber the ones who satan (resist) God.) Even though it is wonderful and joyous to know and worship God in an orderly assembly of others who do so, each one must render an account to God on their own. Great job on allowing understanding to come and studying scripture deeply and honestly.

[@rezing8239]

if one part of the bible is "mistranslated" ALL of the bible is fallible .

[@womanatwellworshiptheFather]

❤❤Good and yes the ANOINTING is His Holy Spirit. Yahweh is Spirit. So the ONLY HOLY SPIRIT is the Father. Now we are GETTING SOMEWHERE Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised... Isaiah 61 1The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; I would like a TRANSLATION where Christ is TRANSLATED anointed.

[@joannacarlson9481]

Trinitarians believe in one God, with three Persons. There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Three in One. They are not the same person. They all exist at the same time. God the Father is not God the Son, God the Son is not God the Father, God the Holy Spirit is different from God the Father and God the Son. All are divine. All are eternal. All are equal. All are worthy of and receive worship. Jesus is Immanuel, which translated means "God With Us". Jesus refers to himself as "I AM", the same name that God used with Moses when Moses asked who should he say sent him. The reason why the religious leaders sent Jesus to be crucified is because they knew He was claiming to be the Messiah - the Son of God as referenced in the OT. If Jesus was not God in the flesh, the atonement is not sufficient. The Son of God was the term used in the Old Testament for the Messiah. Yes, there is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are not the same person, but they are all divine, all equal in eternal nature, all equal in essence, and all worthy of worship. The Messiah cannot atone unless He is perfect, and sinless. A created being cannot atone for anyone. The atonement would not work, because a created being is by nature a sinner. Also, Jesus received worship many times. Only God receives glory and worship. God will not share His glory with another. However, when Jesus was still on this earth, He asks God to restore the glory He had with the Father in heaven. Jesus humbled Himself. He came in the form of a man, 100% God, 100% man. He added humanity to His divinity. When He speaks of God the Father, He is speaking as an obedient Son, not as a created Son, but as a unique, one of a kind, sinless, perfect Lamb of God. Again, the atonement would not be sufficient to satisfy God's requirement for payment of our sin debt if Jesus was simply a man. All men are created beings and are born with a sin nature. If you don't believe that Jesus is God in the flesh (not God the Father, but God the Son), who do you think Jesus is, and who do you think the Holy Spirit is?

[@joshua2707]

@joannacarlson9481 Your argument hinges on the assumption that Jesus must be divine to atone for sins, but this is not supported by the Old Testament sacrificial system, where animals, not divine beings, atoned for sins. Jesus being referred to as "Son of God" doesn't necessitate divinity, as Israelites and angels were also called "sons of God" in the Bible. Jesus explicitly identifies the Father as the "only true God" in John 17:3 distinguishing himself from God. The Holy Spirit is God's active force, not a person, as it is not described with personal attributes consistently in the scriptures.

[@eddieyoung2104]

Can I just comment on the atonement aspect, on which you make an interesting point. In the Law of Moses the animal offering was to be an unblemished specimen. That is, outwardly without spot. Jesus satisfied this by being sinless, because sin is the blemish or spot which marks us. He could definitely do that while still being a man, because of the important addition, that he was given the spirit without measure (John 3:34). You suggest that a human being cannot atone because of the sinful nature that we have. Yet, that is exactly what Jesus needed to have in order to atone. Let me explain. In order to overcome sin, he had to have something to overcome. If he was God then he wasn't overcoming anything, because it would be impossible for him to sin. In order for sinless to mean anything, there has to be the possibility of sinning. Hebrews 4:15 says that he was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. What does this mean, but that he must have shared our sinful human nature. Because it is our very nature that brings temptation. As James says, 'every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed' (Jam 1:14). So with Jesus, he had the ability and possibility to sin, but didn't. He arrived at the cross as a sinless man, having overcome human nature. This is why we believe on him, because he's done something that no other man could do. And by putting our faith in him we share in his victory over sin. Another relevant verse is Hebrews 2:14: 'Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil'. This again shows how Jesus possessed our sinful nature. He took part of the same as what we have. And for what reason? That by dying he might destroy that which had the power of death. Did he destroy a supernatural being called the devil? No. Nobody destroys another being by dying. The only thing that gets destroyed by death is the body and whatever is in it. Therefore he destroyed the flesh nature that he bore. Our sinful human nature which has the power of death for each one of us. If you have any questions I'm happy to discuss.

[@williamsenior80]

Thank you!

[@jamiesimms7084]

Are you also one human with three persons. It doesn't make sense because it's completely senseless and stupid. You change the very nature of God, this is semantics. God is a being who has a mind. If God has more than one mind or personality then it's more than one God. If you have to think to yourselves about something then it's more than one being. God doesn't mean anything with your views.

[@jamiesimms7084]

They really don't it's a complete nonsense. Three separate people with the same authority and attributes but be a type. Like you could get three identical siblings born at the same time. The type would be *Triplet humans* so they could be one set of triplets but they wouldn't be the same entity.

[@gnocchimitpestoundfeta89]

Thank you so much for your videos. This topic is so heavy for me since some years, and it's difficult to find people to discuss it :)

[@DanielDiaz-kd7si]

I recently came across this channel and I’m really enjoying the content it helps me to understand this point of view a whole lot more with good research and understanding. I noticed that there hasn’t been much activity within the past 4 years, are you all planning on getting more active or is there another channel or platform where you have more content, I’d love to see more! God bless you.

[@AndreaWeir-Laverde-nz6iy]

How do I get in contact with this church? Is it only virtual??

[@biblicalunitarian]

You can message: [e-mail]

[@taibiservent]

Thanks for the video … It really seems like basic comprehension to understand these concepts...but "tradition" blockers are hard to see thru

[@chronic_daydreamer]

Beautifully presented. Truth always prevails in the end.

[@johndudash2579]

Even a fool need not to error therein, when we read what is written, and not come in with our preconceived denominational theories, then we see God’s Word in all its glory and simplicity. Our God and Father rejoices when He is established as the one and only God and Creator and when Jesus Christ the Son is given His place as Redeemer and Lord over the Creation, seated at God’s right hand, who is soon returning as King of Kings and Lord of Lords! Great teaching and sharing. Thank you!

[@freedomtracksrecords4452]

John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.

[@henryyahn6114]

It is written - Matthew 24:10-13 Jesus obeys the 5th commandment It is written - Philippians 2:5-8 It is written - John 1:14 It is written - John 14:6 It is written - John 3:16 Praise God! Thank You LORD Jesus for stepping down from your place in glory to put on flesh so that we all can be reconnected to our creator!

[@drdfunk]

I got the first like! Thank you for responding to YHVH's prompting and doing this work. You managed to find a perfect spirit in your delivery; calm, knowledgeable, endearing, yet factual and to the point. My own personality would add 1 more step - instead of just "thinking for a sec" it would be, reorganizing our faith and repenting. on one hand, we can claim ignorance, however innocent, idolatry is why the greatest commandment exists, the sh'ma, and not a small matter.

[@ramilsarmiento5534]

Jesus is the Son of God. We are the sons of God. Therefore Jesus is our Brother, NOT OUR GOD...

[@jesusisthechristthesonofgod]

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. John 20:17 (the forbidden verse).

[@clarencehammer3556]

Jesús said, “You believe in God believe ALSO in me.”

[@luis7961]

Yes. That is exactly what he said. What he did not say was "You believe in God, believe also that I am God too". We should believe in God (The Father) and we should also believe in his Messiah, his son. God (The Father) told us to do so, remember. (Luke 9:35) So listen to the Father (The Al-mighty God) and listen to the Son (The Messiah)

[@chelseaoguike7570]

@@luis7961 exactly

[@TEMChilds]

What about the time where Jesus raised a gentleman from the dead where the people said God is among us. Jesus didn’t deny it.❤❤

[@blackblitz2011]

Remeber what jesus said before he bought lazurus back. He said sorry to his father because he spoke of his own initiative, but knew his father would hear him. Jesus basically said his father is the reason he was able to do this, also it shows jesus has his own way of thinking. But back to your question, if jesus said this to the crowd then he basically was showing this was God that did this, not himself, so it makes sense they said God is among us

[@Romeinen837]

John 20:28-29 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. How would you explain this?

[@biblicalunitarian]

Great question, stay tuned for a video entitled, "Do 12 different people call Jesus God?" It addresses that verse.

[@SG-ib1en]

It's explained in this video as well by referring to v 31 of the same chapter, as it clarifies Jesus' clear identity

[@pozorovatellidi]

Son of God means not the God. Case solved.

[@STROND]

Jesus would never put himself into his fathers position. But one thing to keep in mind is what Jehovah's Witnesses have been saying for over 100 years, and it is the fact that the Hebrew word for God is Elohim, and we need to understand that in the Bible the word for God is "Elohim" and means "Mighty ones" Now in today's modern language we have restricted the word "God" to mean the "almighty" basically the creator, but that was NOT so in the Bible days ! And I will show you. For example did you know that people, kings and judges in the Bible were CALLED Gods ? To illustrate, Psalms 82 says: (now this is God speaking) 1 God takes his place in the divine assembly; In the middle of the gods* he judges: And Vs 6 “I have said, ‘You are gods, All of you are sons of the Most High. Did you notice how even Jehovah calls them "Gods" and HE says "I have said "You are Gods" ......so the question is HOW were they Gods ? And when we have come up with the answer to that, then we will answered the question "How can Jesus be a God " ! Did you know Moses too was called "God" so was not that polytheism ? So if God can give the title of God to angles and people then WHY can't he give the same title to his son?

[@Ann-zh5wp]

Hi! You might want to check in the Original Hebrew text for Psalms 82 whether, the word 'God' is g or G, like-wise Isaiah 9 & Hebrew 1. It's all upper case letter. And in the Bible, the's no where Moses, or the angels are Authorized to be worshipped. Lastly, Isaiah 45:6,18,21-23 God keeps saying;'There's no other god'

[@freedomtracksrecords4452]

Jesus says, "I and the father are one." John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.

[@bobjames3748]

Wrong, the Jews who knew the language and were not pretending like J.W. to know language and make up their own sayings. Elohim never meant a plural of beings but a plurality of attributes and power. Jeh. WItneases are not saved, cannot be in the error they are in. Charles Taze Russell was shamed in court regarding his ability to read any languages of the Bible. The false dating of events out them in the false prophet category and lands then in hell

[@bobjames3748]

Unitarians that deny Jesus is God don't read or rightly divided the book. I've shown many Unitarians scriptures that shows Jesus is the YHWH, the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. ZECH 12:10, REV. 1:8,11,12-13,17-18, REV.4:8, REV21:6-7,22, REV4:2 ,22:1,3-413,16. JN 14th chapter also shows Jesus is the only way you see the Father , because the Father is dwelling in the Christ. 1 Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh. God was in Christ and that body is God's body and that Spirit was the LORD of the OT and now forever in Jesus. Jesus has dual nature's of Deity and humanity. Trinitarians and Unitarians are both wrong and this man here is only looking at the God with the Christ, the anointed man the Son of God . Who is or what is God in John 1:1 Jesus the man would not grasp after divine prerogatives. John 10:30 I am my Father are one. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, my Lord and my God. Thomas is not just merely speaking some out of control speech to Jesus, like he is excited, he is directly calling him these, the Greek has O Kurios mou ho Theos or the Lord of Me, the God of me. Jesus was in his humanity the Christ the Son of God, but he always was that Word of God, being the idea and thought and then living expression of God in time. Jesus never gave up being the Father, he was so, but he was that Son. Isa 9:6. I find the shallow Unitarian denial of Jesus as God offensive, I find the Trinitarian denial he is fully God reprehensible and vile that they used force against Monarchians as myself in the past and yes the Unitarians, and Arians who have their problems.

[@mevinylist]

How do I find a church that is Unitarian?

[@biblicalunitarian]

The Unitarian Christian Alliance website has a list of churches here, check to see if there is one in your area: www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/group-directory/

[@ken440]

Thats right. And he called himself a "son of man" which reflects his origins in Eve, the source of all mankind. Gen3:15. "the SEED of the woman shall bruise the head of the serpent."

[@freedomtracksrecords4452]

John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.

[@ken440]

@@freedomtracksrecords4452 Well the gnostics claim that the Logos a demigod, made the creation, but another angle is "logos" is simply the greek word for the english "word" and a definition of either is "a spoken or written communication." As i have repeatedly pointed out God spoke the creation into being with a spoken word, and promised a messiah from Israel throughout scripture, and scripture is written in words and preached in words. So why keep using an untranslated greek word amongst translated english words when you make this claim. Its either to sound religious or mysterious, or you are Gnostic. ?????

[@freedomtracksrecords4452]

@@ken440 I don't care at all what Gnostics claim. "In the beginning was logos; and logos was with God and logos was God. John goes on to clearly identify Jesus as logos. The Greeks understood that Logos means God's universal and beyond view; ultimate truth and wisdom. Only God has God's universal and beyond view.

[@ken440]

@@freedomtracksrecords4452 I was trying to jolt you into switching your brain on. You are simply using "logos" to sound holy. Its greek, it simply means "word" and so why do you only use greek for that single word, why not put write all of John1:1 in greek? All of Gods intent and wisdom was in His logos spoken in Gen3:15 when He promised one of Eves decendants would destroy the corrupt rebellion of ha satan. (note i am doing what you are doing, i am using hebrew for the satan, which simply means "advesary") God spoke that logos as a promise of redemption of corruption by the satan. God spoke with words, logos, in Deut18:18 in promising a descendant of the people of Israel (so far both humans) will be the great one who God will work THROUGH speak THROUGH. Its all spoken, promised in "words" which in greek is "logos" (because the writer of John1 used greek language) and in the course of time that promise spoken in Gods strong wisdom words, became true, was born, one of the flesh and blood dudes as promised all over Gen, Deut, prophets, all scripture, OT, which is all recorded in words (logos) and Jesus points this out in a few places (e.g. jn8:40) And Peter points it out (Acts2:22). Your use of "Logos" showing you are trying to make it something greater than its language understanding, that of a spoken or written communication. That is known as INFLATION OF PIETY. And that is religion at its worst, twisting meanings, creating heirachies and laity, the work of the nicolatans. be careful brother/sister. This trinity idea might be gnostic influence from the church fathers in the centuries following the hebrew born apostles.

[@lynnebalzer5520]

This is an excellent presentation. It could not be explained any better. Thank you!

[@miroslavmatijevic6185]

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! I thought I know everything about this issue, but you keep surprising me...

[@KingJames4life]

They love using IIsaiah 9:6 KJV - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. And this one 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

[@bobjames3748]

Those are good verses for saying Jesus is God. The Arian/Unitarian seem to want to avoid any verse that says Jesus is God. They pick out the ones that Jesus as the Christ and not as God speaks and doesn't call himself God. John 20:28 says in the Greek translates The Lord of Me the God of Me O Kurios mo u, ho Theos mou. Kurios in NT is is equiv. To YHWH in the O⁵ldq4, that is the God. Jesus is that God Jesus didnt reject such honor.

[@jamiesimms7084]

​@@bobjames3748Jesus is not God. You are taking the language for granted. God and Lord have more nuanced meanings. You're teaching is the Mark of the beast. There's only one God. One Most High God, Jesus's/Yehoshuah's father Yahweh. You should have the mark of the father on your forehead nothing else, otherwise it's the mark of the beast. Your Greco-Roma God concept is contrived by the beast.

[@DamianS1893]

Dude, Read Chapter 1 of John's Gospel...

[@johnspartan98]

Why? The rest of the Bible has to be interpreted to harmonize with the plain unambiguous texts, not the other way around. The Bible doesn't work the way you want it to. You can't hear all this truth being stated and then rush out to find a few texts that YOU think stand in opposition to the plain unambiguous truth!! So what about John 1? It says nothing about Jesus being God. The word of God never became a flesh man either. Verse 14 is an obvious mistranslation of the Greek that was inspired by Gnostics and mystics in the early Church. The word CAME TO HUMANITY and DWELT IN US......etc.. That is the correct translation. If the word is not dwelling in you, then you are one one of YHWH's people. That is a FACT. Why? Because the word of YAHWEH is spirit, just as YHWH is spirit. John 1:1 a. In the beginning was ho logos, b. and ho logos was integral to ton theon [YHWH], c. and divine [theos] was ho logos. Alt: "and the word (ho logos) was divine (theos)." James Moffatt, former professor of Greek and New Testament Exegesis at Mansfield College in Oxford, England, and author of the well-known Moffatt Bible, agrees. He translated John 1:1c as, “the logos was divine.” In 1:1b, Ton Theon with the definite article is properly translated to English as "the God" with an uppercase "G" to signify it is referring to YHWH the only true God. Translators remove the definite article and use uppercase "G" to make God a proper noun referring to YHWH, the only true God (John 17:3). In 1:1c, Theos without the definite article is normally translated as god with a lowercase "g" and is sometimes translated as "divine." The divine translation more accurately applies here since there is no other deity mentioned. In John 1:1 all three instances of "ho logos" do not refer to another person or lessor god. The word is YHWH's word, and more specifically the writer is referring to none other than the GOSPEL which was in YHWH's forethought from eternity. The use of theos without the definite article, sandwiched between "ton theon" and "ho logos," indicates "theos" is being used as a predicate adjective to describe the spirit nature and qualities of YHWH and His word as being the same spirit, life, light, eternal, holy, and divine Logos. Both YHWH and His Logos are DIVINE. "Ho Logos" is an attribute and possession of YHWH, not a person, not a lessor god, and not Jesus. There is no Biblical basis for concluding that the second use of theos (without the definite article) is referring to a second person whose name is the word. The Author does not write: In the beginning was Jesus. No other deity besides YHWH is mentioned in John 's Gospel. Jesus never refers to himself as "ho logos" and neither do the Apostles. Quote: "The second use of theos in John 1:1c serves as a predicate adjective rather than as a predicate noun." [citation: Maximillian Zerwick, Biblical Greek, Rome: Scripta Ponificii Instituti Biblici, 1963, p. 55, par. 171; p. 57, par. 176. Regarding John 1:1b "pros ton theon" It is incorrect to insist that "pros" points to another person (Jesus) as having an eternal preexistent relationship with YHWH. What John is telling us is exactly what the Bible teaches: the Gospel is of the same eternal and divine spirit nature as what YHWH is. There is an eternal relationship between YHWH and His word without the word being the person of Jesus. According to Bauer’s Greek-English Lexicon the preposition pros with the accusative, as in John 1:1, 2, is a marker of movement or orientation toward someone or something. The context determines if it is a person or a something. Pros can mean a number of things such as, according to Bauer's: toward, towards, to, near, at, during, aiming at, striving toward, against, for, to indicate a connection by marking a point of reference, with reference to/regard to (about, because of, with respect to, which concerns, which belongs to, what makes for, in accordance with, in order to, for the purpose of),in adverbial expressions (“tends toward” Jas. 5:4) by, at, near. Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon adds the definition “pertaining to.” Also, various translations render pros with the accusative as: Concerning, as respects, pertaining to, of, even to. Furthermore, the Greek word generally rendered as ‘with’ is para and not pros. The assumption that "pros" means there is another person "with" God in John 1:1 can only be due to TRADITION. The mystics, Gnostics, and Philosophers like Philo infected the early church with a lessor god and /or logos theory that conflicts with the Bible. People who insist on this interpretation overlook the Biblical evidence that "pros" can also be translated as "with" when referring to a something, rather than a someone. (Examples below). NOTE: The LXX renders pros ton theon as “to God.” Eighteen other occurrences of pros ton theon in the New Testament Scriptures are translated as: “to God,” “toward God,” “related to God” or “pertaining to God.” For example, many translations render the phrase pros ton theon in Hebrews 5:2 as: “pertaining to God...” (NASB); “in relation to God...” (ESV); “related to God...” (NIV). Similarly, in Hebrews 2:17 and Romans 15:17. The same or similar phrases are used in a number of other texts. Bauer’s choice of phrase for Romans 15:17 is “that which concerns God” in its rendering of "ta pros ton theon." Regardless, there is Biblical evidence that "pros" can be translated as "with" when referring to a something integral to God such as his spirit, nature, attributes, word, wisdom, power, love, etc.. However, in my opinion: "integral to God" is more accurate. Truly God's word is an integral part of who God is (the self revealing one). Job 10:12-16 informs us that God’s attributes such as life, love, wisdom, power are with Him. Isa 40.10; 62.11 states “His reward is with Him.” 2 Kings 3:12 states “The word of the Lord is with him.” In John 1:1c the Greek phrase "pros ton theon" refers to things and not a person. Other examples make this point clear. We have: “things with God” (Heb 2:17; 5:1; Rom 17:15) “conscience with God” (Acts 24:16) “confidence with God” (2 Cor 3:4; 1 John 3:21) “peace with God” (Rom 5:1) “Faith with God.” (1 Thessalonians 1:8) Jesus cannot be read into the text of John 1:1 as being YHWH or the word because YHWH and His word are not begotten or born. Jesus was begotten and born. John 6:63 states God's word is spirit, meaning: of the same divine eternal substance. God is a spirit. (John 4:24) God's word is spirit. (John 6:63) God's word does not become flesh. (John 3:6) God's word is placed INTO Jesus. Deuteronomy 18:18. Jesus, the Son of God, is not the "word" (logos) of John 1:1. Rather, Jesus spoke his Father's logos....the very words he said belonged to his FATHER. (John 7:15-17; John 12:49-50; John 14:10; John 14:24). The belief that the word of God became the flesh of Jesus conflicts with the Bible which teaches us that the word of God came THROUGH Jesus to humanity to dwell in our hearts and minds and transform us. The Logos of God was placed into Jesus by God. Deuteronomy 18:18; Acts 3:22

[@lizzard13666]

Yes! It's so clear! I don't understand why Trinitarians can't see it! The John 1:1 Dilemma actually proves the Trinity false all by itself. Trinitarians read John 1:1 in one of two possible ways: 1) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH the Father, and Jesus WAS the Father. 2) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH God, and Jesus WAS God. If a Trinitarian picks 1, they must state that Jesus IS the Father, which is heresy to a Trinitarian. If a Trinitarian picks 2, they must state that Jesus was apart from God, WITH God, but not God himself. Option 2 carries the further issue of forcing there to be two Gods, one that Jesus is WITH and one that Jesus IS. Obviously option 2 is heresy to a Trinitarian as well. So that leaves you with zero possible options as a Trinitarian, and this is why John 1:1 precludes Trinitarianism.

[@chronic_daydreamer]

@@lizzard13666They can’t see it because their minds are blinded by the god of the system of things. Don’t tell the Trinitarians that Satan is called a god too! They might crap themselves. 😂 “If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.” - 2 Corinthians 4:3, 4 Satan, as god of this system of things, obscures the truth about YHWH and Jesus so that they cannot attain to truth and life as John 17:3 says. But we hope and pray that all may come to know both of them in accurate knowledge and escape the crafty acts of the Devil.

[@DamianS1893]

Hello... Who Created All Things? The Triune God Through The Word Of God / Jesus!!! Jesus Christ is The Word Of God who became human.

[@johnspartan98]

YAHWEH alone created the Universe. Jesus was given authority to create the spiritual conditions, principalities, and powers to govern his followers. Colossians 1:16 has nothing to do with the Genesis creation. "ALL" is not used in the universal sense in this verse. ALL things are defined in the text itself. Go read it again. Jesus is the Word? PROVE IT from scripture. The KJV translators gave no reason for turning "ho logos" into a proper noun and name.....and Jesus isn't even mentioned in John 1:1. NOWHERE is Jesus ever referred to as the word. An Exegetical Commentary on John's Prologue PART 2 by Don Smith. John 1:1 *In the beginning WAS THE WORD (HO LOGOS)* Greek word Logos: a word (as embodying an idea), a statement, a speech. Logos is a common Greek term that is used 330 times in the NT. The popular view in John's day was to define the logos as words and the thoughts behind the words expressed through speech, writing, a message, news, architecture, or works of art. LOGOS was a Greek word used hundreds of years prior to the birth of Jesus. Logos was used by philosophers to mean ‘the active reason of the creator behind the universe’. The writer of the prologue uses the definite article "ho" (THE) meaning God's Logos (word). "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses. Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast." Psalms 33:6-9 Quote: "The Greek language is a gender based language, therefore a Greek reading verses 2 to 14 will not read these verses and understand houtos and autos as referring to a person. Houtos and autos point back to "the word" which is an object. Since ho logos is a masculine word in Greek, and there is no Greek word for the English preposition "it," when translators come across autos and houtos as pointing to an object and not a person, "it" conveys the correct meaning to an English reader." ~Jean-Philippe Parent It is incorrect to insist that "pros" points to another person (Jesus) as having an eternal preexistent relationship with YHWH. What John is telling us is exactly what the Bible teaches: the Gospel is of the same eternal and divine substance as what YHWH is. There is an eternal relationship between YHWH and His word without the word being the person of Jesus. In John 1:1c there is no definite article before theos. Since there is no definite article used here while there is a definite article in 1:1b (ton theon) which actually points to (ho logos) as being in fact the same as God in Nature. Hence, in 1:1c it is correct to translate to English as follows: "and divine [theos] was the word [ho logos]." Both God and His word are the same in nature: spirit, eternal, divine, light, life. The word of God is God's word. "Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever." Psalms 119:160 Revelation 19:11-13 specifically says that God's name is the word of God. "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." Here we see that the rider on the white horse cannot be Jesus because the rider bears a name that no one else knows but Him. That excludes Jesus from being the rider. Only YHWH can know something no one else knows. Jesus cannot know things that YHWH says only He knows. The expression “the word of God” appears 5 times in Revelation and numerous times throughout the Bible. It almost always refers to a message from God with the exception of Revelation 19:13 where it is used as a name for YHWH. Everywhere else "the word of God" is a message from God, His spoken word, or the written word of God. The Bible never refers to Jesus as the word ("HO LOGOS.") The word of God is what God is, and what he speaks. Rather, Jesus claimed to be the messiah through whom YHWH chose to reveal Himself and His logos (the Gospel) to the world. The logos of John 1:1-5 and 1 John 1:1-6 is the Gospel message, not a person. "Beloved, I am not writing a new commandment to you, but an old commandment that you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word that you heard.: So, 1 John 2:7 has the writer referring to back to 1 John 1:1 "that which we seen, heard, etc. in the beginning" and refers to it as a commandment, not Jesus. Jesus is not a commandment, and not the word. Jesus said: "these words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:24) Also SEE John 7:15-18; John 8:28; John 12:49-50; John 14:10. The belief that "the word" is the person of Jesus comes from pagan mysticism and philosophy. The eternal word of God becoming the begotten mortal Jesus causes numerous conflicts throughout the Bible. God and His word are never referred to as BEGOTTEN or BORN in the Bible. In the Hebrew Bible the word "dabar" is used instead of logos. Dabar in the Old Testament is never a person or spokesman. Dabar is a message, promise, command, word, or the thoughts behind the words. No lexicon of the Hebrew Bible lists dabar as a person, God, angel, or man. The dabar, or word of YAHWEH is his possession, and never a person in the Hebrew Bible. The same can be said for the Greek Bible when referring to the logos or word of God. The logos is the Good News a.k.a. the Gospel of the Kingdom (Luke 3:2 and Luke 4:43) preached by John the Baptist and Jesus from "the beginning" of the NT Age. Biblical Evidence: 1. ACTS 10:36-39 "You know the message (logos) YHWH sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace THROUGH Christ Jesus, who is Lord of all. Here we see the message described as the good news sent to the people of Israel through Jesus. Peter does not say Jesus is the word. 2. LUKE 3:2 "The word of God came to John the Baptist and he went around Judea preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.." 3. Romans 10:8-9 "But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." 4. Romans 10:17 "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of GOD." 5. Romans 1:16 "The Gospel message is the power of God that leads men to salvation." 6. 1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the word (logos) of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of GOD." 7. Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." 8. 1 Corinthians 15:2 "By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." 9. 1 JOHN 1:1-3 "The gospel declared from the beginning is referred to as "the word of life." 10. Philippians 2:16 ".....as you hold firmly to the word of life." 11. John 6:63 "....the words I speak are spirit and life..." 12. Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying (ho logos); who is able to hear it (autos)?” John 6:60 CONCLUSION: "The word" in John 1:1-5 is the Gospel, the word of life, the light that enlightens those who receive it, the message preached by Jesus from the beginning. Through Jesus God revealed the Gospel message (logos) to humanity. The word enters into, and dwells in, all those who hear it and believe. Question to all believers: What verse in the Bible establishes Jesus as ho logos (the word) in John 1:1?

[@johnspartan98]

The word of God is and always will be God's word because it's integral to Him. God's word is His word the same as a person's word is their word.....but even more so when it comes to God and His word. JOHN 1:14 *WHY THE WORD DID NOT BECOME FLESH.* NOTE: Rules of Greek grammar don't apply when the conclusion results in conflict with essential doctrines to our salvation. Knowing who YHWH is, who Jesus is, and who Paul is and what they taught, are all essential to our salvation. I have preserved the Greek text and translated it word for word into English to be compatible with John's Gospel, and the rest of the Bible. The Greek word "egeneto" can be, and sometimes is, translated as "came to" in the Bible. See part 7 for examples. Egeneto has a broad array of uses in the Bible and according to Lexicons it is translated with great latitude. That means the context has to be carefully considered. If an English word is chosen that conflicts with the Bible then it must be discarded. In the context of John's prologue, his Gospel, and the entire N.T., translating "egeneto" as "became" results in conflict with the Bible, whereas "came to" works perfectly with the entire Bible. Greek text: "kai ho logos sarx egeneto kai eskēnōsen en hēmin kai etheasametha ten doxan autou doxan hōs monogenous para Patros plērēs charitos kai alētheias." My compatible English translation: "and the word came to humanity and dwelt in us, and we beheld (perceived it with our minds) it's glory, (a glory like that of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth." THE GLORY was "like that of the only begotten of the Father. This means similar to that which they perceived was at work in Jesus. It does not mean "is Jesus." Consider John 17:22-24; and 2 Corinthians 4:6. No one could truly behold, understand, perceive, contemplate, or know what it is like to be Jesus, or to be the Glory of God, or to be the only begotten sinless Son of God....but we can experience the glory of YHWH's word working in us....the same word and glory that worked in Jesus. John is telling us that the same word of God that was at work in Jesus entered into him and the disciples when they heard and believed the words Jesus taught them. They experienced it's transforming effect on their hearts and minds. They experienced the Grace and Truth working in them. That's the "glory" referred to. The traditional translation of John 1:14 conflicts with: Deuteronomy 18:18; 1 Kings 21:17; Jeremiah 1:4; 1 Chronicles 17:3; Hosea 1:1; 2 Chronicles 12:7; Genesis 15:4; Genesis 15:1; Ezekiel 6:1; Jeremiah 1:2, 11; Jeremiah 13:8; Mark 1:1; Mark 1:11, Luke 3:2; Luke 9:35....and many more scriptures. The Bible does not support the traditional translation of John 1:14. "....I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers [Israelites], like you [Moses], and I will put my words IN HIS MOUTH [Jesus] and he will speak to them [Israelites] all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:18; also see Acts 3:22 The word of God was to be placed into Jesus by YHWH Himself. That means the word of God could not have become the flesh of Jesus. No other verse in the Bible conveys the idea: "the word became flesh" (Jesus). "Flesh" in this context is referring to "humanity; (everyone, all people, or mankind) and not just one person. Jesus did not die to save himself. He died to save humanity. Check Acts 2:17 where Peter quotes Joel 2:28 where the Greek word "sarx" in many translations is rendered as human kind, humanity, all the people, etc.. Other translations use "flesh" but the meaning is "all of humanity." Paul also uses flesh as a reference to all of humanity where he states: "no flesh is justified by the works of the law" (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16). The writer of the prologue moves the reader to focus on the entrance of God's word into the hearts and minds of people where it transforms them, which effects the complete flow of human activity and affairs (when enough people believe it). John 1:14 is a summary of YHWH's purpose behind the the NT Gospel, which is to fulfill prophecy by having His word and spirit dwell in people to sanctify, justify, enlighten, transform, and give them eternal life. John 1:14 cannot be translated to conflict with Deuteronomy 18:18, or any other verses in the Bible. YHWH prophesied "My spirit will be in you and My laws will be written in your hearts. (Jeremiah 31:33). Jesus stated the words he spoke are spirit. John 6:63 Words don't become flesh. Words are spirit. Spirit does not become flesh. John 3:6 Spirit enters into the heart and mind and is expressed vocally, in the form of a creative work of art, in a written work, or some form of expression. If the word of God is not in you, then the spirit of God is not in you.

[@Somedude2020]

​@@johnspartan98those two posts were very good reads, thanks for taking the time to write them

[@nataliuselyanto210]

@@johnspartan98 Revelation 19:11-16 "The Rider on a White Horse" 1. Jesus Christ is identified as the faithful witness in Revelation 1:5, He is also the truth according to John 14:6. 2. The Lamb is identified as the Lord of lords and King of kings in Revelation 17:14 Thus, without any doubt, the Word of God in Revelation 19:13 is indeed Jesus Christ. By the way you said Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation.." compare it with 1 Corinthians 1:24 that literally says "Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God." Is it just a coincidence between Romans 1:16 and 1 Corinthians 1:24?

[@tongakhan230]

Why would anyone call Jesus God? Jesus was God's Envoy. People who can believe that God was man who could get himself killed needs to come to terms with reality. The Jews knew Exodus 33:20. Setting eyes on God would spell death.

[@kerwinbrown4180]

Thank you!

[@patanthony9286]

Very knowledgeable teaching

[@tomtemple69]

heresy*

[@luis7961]

@@tomtemple69 85 Is it heresy to believe in one al-mighty God? Where in the scripture is that written?

[@tomtemple69]

@@luis7961 its heresy to deny Jesus is God incarnate... in fact it's blasphemy, whoever denies the Son denies the Father

[@luis7961]

@@tomtemple69 I dont think there is one Christian on this planet that denies the Father and the Son. Well, it might be the Trinitarians though. For them are Jesus a real son? And by the way, where in the scriptures can I read that it is heresy to deny Jesus as God?

[@tomtemple69]

@@luis7961 John 14: 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 10: 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” they were trying to stone Him because He claimed to BE God

[@bosse641]

Very clear from Scripture that Jesus is NOT God, but fully MAN. Just as the first Adam was, so also the last/second Adam. MAN. And that man had/has a God. That means that Jesus is NOT God. So simple.

[@chelseaoguike7570]

yup

[@bobjames3748]

So you even read the Bible or have some Unitarian lying mess of a minister spout that to you? I have posted to several people scriptures that a blind man can see Jesus is God, not from him declaring as the man Christ and grasp after divines as the Son and Christ. But in others in Revelation for 1:8 Rev 4:8 Rev22:13,16, Jude 25, John 14th Chapter exposes your doctrine but Just like Trinies , you people miss what Jesus says about Being the Father in a enigmatic speech and the Comforter. Unitarians were part of the Arian monstrosity that denied Jesus as fully God though plenty is scriptures show it.

[@gregoryknight9704]

Actually the Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, is the one who interpreted Jesus saying that God was his Father to mean that he was implying that he was equal to God. John 5:18 KJVS Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. However it is valid to point out that every thing he has is from the Father.

[@jesusisthechristthesonofgod]

Jesus explains that he's working because God is working, that's the equation people don't seem to understand, even though he explains it very clearly.

[@jamiesimms7084]

Also if I made a statement that if God is doing something then so can I. That doesn't mean I'm calling myself God it just means people with a fundamentalist view thinks I'm saying I'm equal with God. I could make this statement about anyone. If I said at work, my boss does this thing so I can do it to. Someone saying I think I'm equal to my boss is basically telling me to know my place. They aren't meaning they believe I think I am my boss. That's an absurd explanation of the trinity. You only get a Trinitarian view if you were taught it first.

[@DamianS1893]

John Chapter 14 ... Read this Chapter... Stop confusing people

[@RufusBlad]

What about it? The chapter starts “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me." John 14:1 NASB2020 There in the first verse Jesus has already identified himself as someone other than God.

[@DamianS1893]

@@RufusBlad Read The whole Chapter

[@DamianS1893]

@@RufusBlad John Chapter 1 Verses 1-5 NLT BIBLE

[@RufusBlad]

@@DamianS1893 To sum it up: Jesus is a separate being from God (verse 1), through whom we have access to God (verse 6) and who reveals God to us (verse 7). Jesus is in God and God is in Jesus, and everything Jesus says is God's words and God is working through him (verse 10). Jesus will come to us by the Spirit of Truth, i.e. God's Spirit (verse 16-18) and God is greater than Jesus (verse 28).

[@chelseaoguike7570]

@@RufusBladwhat??

[@TheIrunthisson]

I'm baffled by how much false teaching is out there. Jesus is fully God. First chapter of John alone sets this up.

[@DamianS1893]

True

[@DamianS1893]

I agree that Jesus Christ is God

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

i was with my dad and i am my dad

[@gnads9771]

Open your eyes... It's clear, God is the Father. One God

[@SG-ib1en]

The same first chapter in v 14 John confirms Christ as being the Son of God, which is what Jesus continually declared himself as and acknowledged to his disciples ie Mark 8:29

[@YatoyTV]

I have a question dear brothers and sisters. In the film The Chosen, there is a part there where Jesus says "I am The Law of Moses." What does that mean?

[@biblicalunitarian]

Jesus never says, "I am the Law of Moses." I assume it is some creative thinking from the Chosen to play on the seven "I am" statements of John. I assume they would be meaning that Jesus fulfills the Law of Moses.

[@Gracia144JesusSaves]

manny so manny words you Spoke are treu and backed up with scripture brother . 🥲🖐️❤️📖📯Thank You Father in Heaven and Lord Jesus Lamb of God and Holy Spirit the Comforter for this Confirmation .

[@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq]

Although your explanation of John 5 is spot on, Trinitarians will just differentiate between the person of the Father and the person of the Son. They will simply claim this is Jesus in his human nature or in his role as the Son Again, in John 10, your reasoning is excellent and the context is taken into account rather than being ignored. Interestingly, some NTs translate John 10 :33 as "a god" . In view of how Jesus responds by quoting Psalm 82 :6, this would seem to be the case. Translating the verse 'God' is yet another sign of translator bias. In John 20 :28, again, simply by looking at the context, we get the correct understanding. If ever there was a time to spell out that Jesus was God; or God incarnate; God in the flesh, this was it. But verses 30-31 do the oppsite : They show the purpose of the gospel was to show that Jesus ws the messiah, the Son of God, - not God. Indeed, the Jews did not see the messiah as God, but as his anointed One. However, even calling Jesus God - and there are only a handful of such verses contrasting with the hundreds differentiating Jesus from God - does not strictly in itself mean that Jesus is YHWH, as the word 'God' has a range of meanings and various ones such as Moses,Hebrew Kings; Judges and angels are designated God in scripture without ever implying that they are YHWH.

[@ScottJackson.]

Called God inherited name

[@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq]

@@ScottJackson. : Not exactly sure what you mean. The word 'God' is a title, not a name.

[@ScottJackson.]

@@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq titles are names Jesus is named the mighty God

[@ScottJackson.]

@@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq name called Isaiah 9:6 KJV

[@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq]

@@ScottJackson. : I'm afraid you are simply wrong. The title 'God/god' is applied to Moses. Hebrew Kings, Judges, angels - even the devil in the Bible. The divine name YHWH traditionally rendered Jehovah/Yahweh is God's name (Ex 3 :15) and features over 6000 times in the Bible(although many modern translations replace it with the word LORD). YHWH is the God of Israel, the God of Jesus the one to whom he addressed the famous words : "hallowed be thy name."(Mat6 :9,10) If you have watched the video or read my comment, you will understand that Jesus did not claim to be God Almighty and is never called such. Indeed, although Jesus is called 'Lord' 0 as are many others -, he is never called 'LORD' or 'LORD God'.

[@Somedude2020]

I really appreciate these videos, they are a great learning tool. Thank you.

[@MusingMegan]

The first time I heard of unitarians I freaked out and wanted to study to correct them. Ended up finding your videos wanting to find out exactly what I needed to refute and ended up believing in unitarianism myself 😂 Thank you for your kind way of speaking truth and helping others see the error in their traditions. This channel has helped my family immensely!

[@biblicalunitarian]

Wow, thank you so much! That is so encouraging. Glad I could help. I'd love to hear more of your story, and where your family is at now. Feel free to friend request me on Facebook!

[@MusingMegan]

@@biblicalunitarian Alright, thank you! I sent a friend request this morning. Right now we're trying to find a church fellowship. We got kicked out of our church we had been going to, they are staunch trinitarians... We also sent out a brief email to about 15 churches to state our beliefs but where we overlap and wanted to find common ground with other Christians even if we don't agree on everything. The churches we emailed either didn't respond or we are not welcome. Please pray we can find a fellowship near us!

[@teodormishev2289]

I really like how people take some bible verses literally so they can prove their analogy, but then they start to not take the verses of the bible literally that say the opposite. I personally dont believe in the trinity but i am not denying that jesus is god. Many verses use the word theos which is god for jesus. Romans 9:5-6 and jesus accept worshipping that is the word proskuneo which means to fall down and kiss the ground ( full submission) . Even as only the son of god jesus becomes everything what the father has which includes worship

[@RodMartinJr]

Very nicely explained.

[@salman13]

The Thomas story in John 20 is also probably made up. It's the only gospel where we are trying hard to make Jesus into God by all these vague verses. In Luke, his intention was to write as accurately as possible since there were many people writing stuff and he didn't write any of the divine claims in John? in john 20, jesus shows up. 10 apostles see him and thomas sees jesus a week or so later and then believes. One issue is there is no indication that apostles didn't believe in the Lazarus story. They already knew coming back from the dead was easy thing to do for God. We have to look at Luke 24. How many apostles are there when Jesus shows us and spooks them? If you read the chapter, you can see that this is pretty much their first meeting with Jesus after the alleged resurrection. It's the first Sunday or Monday. They were going away and came back....so we see the urgency. As the two came rushing back they find the eleven apostles and Jesus shows up. All eleven of them. If all eleven of them are there....then the thomas story cannot be true as there would have been 10 apostles ie 12 apostles minus ( judas + thomas) . In john 16, Jesus says no more parables. What was his intention? To be as clear and precise so there is no confusion as his apostles were not understanding him at times and hwo his opponents were twisting his words. he says son of god, a common expression...they say he is trying to be literal , in order to kill him etc. Jesus says no more parables and then explains and his apostles say what? DO they say Jesus is God or god in flesh and what not ? No, they say he is a man sent by God. just like all the other prophets were sent. Jesus says what about the sender and the sent? are they equal? In the same breath , Jesus says Only the father is the true god. No son or holy spirit.....

[@kerryweinholz1731]

Excellent presentation

[@DoulosTis]

It looks like a click bait, "was called God and denied it....every time"?

[@jimwinchester339]

Another point you might have developed, in addition to handling Thomas's exclamatory remark (however you decide to do it), is that one must take into account that Thomas, throughout the gospels, has a knack for making the most outlandish and inappropriate/boneheaded remarks. This is clearly the last guy you'd want to be using as a basis for formulating doctrine!

[@MacoyCafe]

In the Old testament in Daniel chapter 7 it says that the Messiah is going to be worshiped with God the Father. What is your explanation of this?

[@biblicalunitarian]

Thanks for your question. Human beings are worshiped all of the time in scripture and it does not make them God. See this video, I directly address this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/emLRp3-BZb17grM

[@hargisP2]

“I AM” statements of John. •In John 6:35, Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life.” •In John 8:12, Jesus said, “I am the light of the world.” •In John 10:9, Jesus said, “I am the gate.” •In John 10:11, Jesus said, “I am the good shepherd.” •At the tomb of Lazarus in John 11:25, He declared to Martha, “I am the resurrection and the life.” •In John 14:6, He said, “I am the way and the truth and the life.” •Finally, in John 15:5, Jesus said, “I am the vine.” Revelation 22:13-14 (KJV) 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Isaiah 44:6 (KJV) 6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. You can’t have two First and Last. You fail to realize that the verses you mention is the Man Christ speaking which is different than the God in Christ speaking. You break all rules of hermeneutics. One God The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is also Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more. Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS [6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. There can’t be two first and last. Isaiah 9:6 KJVS [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Why is Jesus called / Identified as the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father? 1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. God put on flesh, and became as a man. Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS [8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS [25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. All that God is resides in the Body of Jesus. Acts 20:28 (NKJV) 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. God is Spirit. How does a Spirit have blood? There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. So God produced a human body to be sacrificed for the payment of sin for all. Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind? Mark 12:29 KJVS And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Who was pierced? Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be- “The LORD is one,” And His name one. John 20:26-28 (KJV) 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. kzbin.info/www/bejne/inXHqpePgMSAr9Esi=k3-9WWcYGCubdqMq

[@whywearehere7517]

Amazing!

[@DEPoole-me3mf]

Amen1 I love your presentation!

[@gobele1]

So what is the difference between a Human Father and his Son? If all things were made by Him(Jesus) and without Him, nothing was made that was created. Then if He was created the top statement is false. Very simple logic. We have a Being That was not created that was with the Father from the beginning. And then there is Heb 1:10.

[@raj_talks_tech]

The problem with this doctrine is that, the Bible is open for interpretation. Most of the doctrine points to a trinitarian set of belief as Jesus is seen even in the old testament as "Angel of God, YHWH(that David saw) and John 1:1"

[@NickSandt]

Facts

[@traversniemi5342]

I'm starting to lean your way. 1st John 5 through 7. There are three that bear Witness. Would you break that one down for me my brother

[@biblicalunitarian]

Hello, thanks for your question. If you are referring to the reading in the KJV: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." This is considered to be a later forgery by most scholars today because it is not in any early manuscripts but appears in later ones. That is why most modern versions do not have this verse in their bible. You can read more about that here: www.revisedenglishversion.com/1John/5/7

[@traversniemi5342]

@@biblicalunitarian thank you I will look into it. I've always thought that that was a mistranslation Horsham trinitarian editor's tossed it in there to satisfy their Doctrine. Thank you for for your reply

[@letstalkbiblewithshun.s]

1 John 5:7 King James Version 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. There is one God the Father. Him and his word is the same. God is a Spirit who is holy, God is Holy Spirit. Stay blessed.

[@letstalkbiblewithshun.s]

@@LionNotWolf the Holy Spirit and the father are literally one.

[@SG-ib1en]

@@letstalkbiblewithshun.s not according to original scriptural manuscripts, which don't record that statement anywhere: Rev 22:18

[@womanatwellworshiptheFather]

I agree. The Father SENT Jesus Christ. Jesus said IT IS NOT I that do the WORKS but the Father that DWELLS in ME. He CLEARLY and multifacetedly MAKES A DISTINCTION between the Father and Him. He even repeatedly calls Himself the Son of Man to SHOW He is the Man God sent into the World to FULFILL Isaiah 59 16And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. What was the Cloak of Zeal? John 2 15And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; 16And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. 17And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up. Why did the FATHER send Jesus to do this???? Amos 8 4Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail, 5Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit? 6That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat? 7The LORD hath sworn by the excellency of Jacob, Surely I will never forget any of their works. 8Shall not the land tremble for this, and every one mourn that dwelleth therein? and it shall rise up wholly as a flood; and it shall be cast out and drowned, as by the flood of Egypt. 9And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day: When was THAT FULFILLED?? In Jesus's DAY Luke 23 44And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. 45And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst. Jesus CAME to fulfill the WILL of the FATHER to DEAL with the lying money-changers CHEATING the poor! Jesus was the LORDS cloak of Zeal. John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. This is also in the prophecy of the ARM of the LORD Isaiah 53 1Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. AND Mary Testifies of her Son as His Arm Luke 1 51He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. 52He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. Praise God the Father who Does Mighty Works!

[@LibrePensador12]

A Trinitarian friend asked me this question: If Jesus is Jah's first creation, even before the creation of heaven, where did Jesus live before the creation of heaven?

[@barnaclelevi]

Jesus was born to Mary ...as human the Aramaic bible uses the word BSR which means human. The lying Vatican codec changed this to flesh . From the Aramaic root ܒ݁ܶܣܪܳܐ (b-š-r), also Hebrew b-š-r or Arabic *baśhar- (“flesh= human body itself”). Also: John 1:14 the only-begotten (born to 1 human) who was from the Lord, full of grace and truth. The word explicitly says born to one human....remember!!! John 3:6 - Whatever is born of the flesh, is flesh; and whatever is born of the Spirit, is spirit.... So it should be , what ever is born of flesh is flesh (bsr= human or animal on this earth not spirit or NOT god). That word is never used for any being which exists beyond our human vision. Stay away from the trinitarian, they will twist every answer from imagination and not use scripture). Jah is actually YA, it means O' . This pre compound debtors the reference in compound is singular Ya is not the god nor a reference to god. When Jews went to slavery they were saying ya-huah. Went they went to Egypt , the Egyptians Pharaoh's worshipped huah .huah is a pagan god. Huah even had a wife according to Hebrew pagan folklore . The word rabb, alla, ilah, Rahman are terms used with O' (ya alla, ya Rahman, ya rabb)... Does your Catholic friend say Ya YA... It's absurd The word yhwh from tetragrammaton in *Aramaic is I Am, it is not a name or reference, but a VERB

[@charlestiraco8634]

Hi. I'm not sure if you're still looking for an answer, but I would like to point out that there is no mention of Jesus physically anywhere in the Old Testament. How could that be if he's physically created already and sitting on a throne? How could it be in the opening of Genesis that there is no Jesus around? Genesis 1:26 does not mention Jesus. God vaguely mentions to the serpent how he's going to go about fixing things. He's talking about Jesus, of course, but in a future tense... doesn't even mention Jesus's name. Not a word about him physically here... thought he was first creation?... shouldn't he be present or have some sort of relevance here in any acknowledged way? It doesn't make sense. What happened is God spoke his word to the serpent about what he (had already) planned (Jesus) to do in the future and set things off from there as time revealed the truth of God's word... the prophecies regarding the yet to physically exist Jesus. I hope this helps. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong or misunderstand.

[@lainie4344]

Someone please explain 1 John 5:7. Acts 5:3-4. John 14:9.

[@timetom1635]

1. Read verse 6 and 8 2.the holy spirit is YHWH’s power not a separate being 3. Read verse 10 and 11

[@letstalkbiblewithshun.s]

1 John 5:7 King James Version 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. There is one God the father, the father and his word are one. God is holy and a Spirit, God is holy Spirit. These 3 are 1. Stay blessed 🙌

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

might want to ask your pastor about the comma johannim fam-o @@letstalkbiblewithshun.s

[@jesusisthechristthesonofgod]

None of Jesus' accusers in the New Testament ever accuse him of claiming to be God. They accuse him of claiming to be the Christ, the Son of God.

[@InfinitelyManic]

This should be addressed: Rev 14:4 These were redeemed from humanity as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb,

[@user-jg9np5lf7y]

Amen.

[@MathewThomasFET]

Mk. 2: 27-28 "therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath". What is the Unitarian response to this ❓

[@cindilincoln]

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life. Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom. Colossians 1:16-20 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

[@letusgather...7820]

My sister, a Trinitarian, believes that when Jesus said, "Why do you call me good?" the emphasis should be on WHY, as in Just WHY are you calling me good? It's because I am God, and that is the reason WHY I am good. The natural reading, to me, would be why do you call ME good? There's only one truly good person, and that's the God the Father, not me, a human being like you with the potential to do stupid, not good, things. Update: I am having a Mandela moment....I've always read Matt 19:16 as "Good teacher, what must I do to enter eternal life?" Now, when I research the different Bible translations, for the first time I'm seeing... "Teacher, what good thing must I do..." For Jesus to answer: why do you call me good, makes no sense if this is correct. I'm so confused.....

[@eddieyoung2104]

In the KJV it reads: '‭And, behold, one came and said unto him, *Good* Master, what *good* thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?' (Matthew 19:16). The newer translations don't say 'good master', or 'good teacher', as you found out. But, in the parallel account in Mark 10:17, the modern translations do have 'good teacher'. So like you say, Jesus didn't want to be called good, because in sharing our sinful nature he couldn't be called good in the fullest sense. Yet, through his father's power he went about doing good, for God was with him (Acts 10:38). And to only do good because God was with him, is another thing pointing away from the Trinity.

[@letusgather...7820]

@@eddieyoung2104 also, the Hebrew Matthew says good teacher, and why do you call me good. So sad we are forced to be so diligent just to understand what Jesus meant.... Avoiding the doctrines of men.

[@eddieyoung2104]

@@letusgather...7820 I agree, but the more diligent we are the better, and we benefit from it in the process. It's certainly more complicated with the different translations, because in many modern ones there are words or whole verses removed. Try reading Acts 8:37 in the ESV or NIV!

[@letusgather...7820]

@@eddieyoung2104 just looked it up.... Or not as the case may be. Apparently, the verse was lacking in the most ancient MSS. The REV has it grayed out with commentary. Irenaeus quotes it tho..... I learned something new today!

[@frankjones5283]

You are right. I think that Jesus ment that any GOODNESS that we have comes from the source of GOODNESS which is God.

[@gabakusa]

well done video

[@Commentary173]

The reason as to why he denied it has to do with the fact that people equated Him and His Teachings as following their own words rather than the will of God, the Father. He said that because He took on human flesh and human flesh was sadly made evil after the Fall of mankind. He says only God is good not because He wasn't God but because He also had a human nature. So case in point, yes, Yeshua IS YHWH.

[@vincentcieluch7863]

When words are "plain as day" then when those words are refused to be believed... spirit influence is the cause, and that spirit or those spirts are NOT HOLY, and therefore those spirts are unholy, then this leads me to be reminded of 1Corinthians12 and the 7th manifestation.... Yup , discerning of spirits, got the picture? Ephesians 6:12... I'd say young man "keep up the good work" but the truth of the matter is, Keep up the BEST WORK!

[@JwowDickens]

Well done my brother, may Yahweh bless you

[@Zungie]

While it’s true that one could read into Jesus’ responses as a denial of being “God,” it should be noted that Jesus does not give an actual denial in any of the verses presented in this video. A denial would be something like “Do not call me ‘God’,” “Do not think that I am God,” or a variation of this. Yet curiously, Jesus does not say anything like this in any of the Gospels. Interestingly, Jesus uses the instructional command “Do not...(verb)” dozens of times throughout the Gospels. In Matthew alone, he uses the “do not…(verb)” command well over 30 times without ever telling people not to think he's God or not to call him God. Since the video focuses on the Gospel of John, let’s also take a look at this Gospel specifically. In John, Jesus gives the “do not…” command 13 times, yet none of these times does he ever deny being “God.” Even more curiously, Jesus himself in Matthew 4:10 explicitly states that we should worship (proskyneo) the "LORD YOUR GOD" only. Note that this word for "worship" in Greek (proskyneo) is specifically reserved for God alone in the New Testament. Many people mistakenly claim that human kings are also allowed to be "worshiped." However, this is a different word in Greek (timao) and is thus more accurately translated as “honor." Moving back to "worship" specifically, the gospel of Matthew records people worshiping (proskyneo) Jesus on 9 separate occasions, and yet Jesus never rebukes anyone for doing so. This is in stark contrast to Acts 10:25-26, when Cornelius tries to worship (proskyneo) Peter, an apostle (which is the English transliteration of the Greek word for “agent”). Peter directly rebukes Cornelius for trying to worship him, telling Cornelius very directly that he, Peter, should not be worshiped because he "is just a man." Any reader of the Bible should definitely ponder why Jesus accepts worship that is reserved only for God (and not God's agents), and why Jesus never directly denies being God. When you add in these elements with the claims of Jesus' pre-existence made by the apostle Paul (Colossians 1), the author of Hebrews (Heb. 1), the author of John (John 1), and Jesus himself in John 8:58, along with the Bible's claims that Jesus was begotten (not created, not adopted, not made) of the Father through the seed of the Holy Spirit, the case against Jesus' divinity (from a biblical perspective, at least) becomes very weak. Now, does this mean that the doctrine of the Trinity is correct? Not necessarily, as there could be some legitimate disputes against that doctrine's claims. But if we are to take the Bible at its word, it is extremely difficult to make the case that Jesus is just a man. We can, of course, try to omit, ignore, or rephrase the meaning of the verses that strongly imply Jesus' divinity. But if we don't believe what parts of the Bible say, how do we know that we should believe the rest of it?

[@biblicalunitarian]

Thanks for your comment. I don't think you have to say "no" to deny something, or "yes" to affirm it, but the point of the video is to show that he seems to strongly be leaning towards denying their claims, without actually saying the word "no". To respond to some of what you said, I think if you affirm a different claim, then you are denying the claim they are making about you. So, that is what he does in John 10, he affirms a different claim, "son of God." Throughout many other places in scripture Jesus and the NT authors affirm that someone else besides Jesus is God. Thus, Jesus does not think that he is God, but someone else is. It is all over the New Testament: "No one is good but God alone," (Mark 10:18) "that they may know you the only True God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent," (John 17:3) "one mediator between God and man, the man Jesus Christ" (1 Tim. 2:5)... So, neither Jesus, nor the NT authors, think Jesus is the same thing/person as God. A video directly addressing the issue of worship is going to be posted very soon. Jesus isn't "just a man," but a man that God powerfully worked through, "a man attested by God by miracles, wonders and signs that GOD did through him" (Acts 2:22). Jesus' miracles don't point to his own "divinity" but to God's power working through him (more verses could be cited for this). Also, Pre-existence does not entail "divinity" as you are likely thinking of it. Arians believe Jesus pre-existed, but do not believe that he has the same "ousia" or is made up of the same "divine stuff" as the Father. I appreciate your thoughtful consideration and it seems like you are trying to look at things fairly which is always the goal. Best of luck to you in your pursuit of the truth.

[@Zungie]

@@biblicalunitarian Thank you for your reply, as well! I appreciate your willingness to engage with the comments on your videos, as it can take a lot of courage and patience. I understand your point about the video seeking to unpack where Jesus is leaning in His responses, rather than him giving concrete denials. My only recommendation, then, is that before we make a hard claim about what the Bible says when it doesn't directly say something, we should make sure it aligns with other parts of Scripture. The reason we cannot definitively say Jesus denies being "God" is that we actually have an example of the way the Bible defines a denial, and it is much different from anything Jesus says. If we look at Peter's denial of Jesus in Matt. 26:69-75, Peter explicitly says in each of his three denials that he "does not know" Jesus. So, I would encourage you to reconsider the verses in the video -- that they are not denials from Jesus, but rather that Jesus is doing something else in his responses. To clarify what I mean when I say Jesus is "divine", I do not mean to say that Jesus is the Father, nor that Jesus is the creator of the universe. Rather, what I mean is that, according to the Bible, Jesus existed before creation, he is the blueprint for creation, and he is the reason creation exists in the first place. He existed in the physical heaven before creation, he was sanctified by the Father, then he descended from heaven, he became flesh, he died in the flesh (though did not die the second death), he was raised again by the Father, and he ascended back to the Father, where he now sits at His right hand. Where many Westerners get hung up is that we tend to conflate the word "God" with "the Father," which is also a place where the New Testament Jews were getting hung up. Let's look at John 10:33-34, where Jesus responds to the Jews' claim that Jesus was making himself out to be "God." In his response, Jesus references Psalm 82, and it cuts right to the heart of this matter, as Jesus points out that "theos" / "Elohim" is a broad term, because even heavenly beings lower than the Son receive this title. Note that Psalm 82 explicitly points out that these are not men, such as prophets or agents, being addressed by the LORD GOD. But rather, these are other divine beings besides YHWH. We can debate about who or what these other beings in Psalm 82 are, but Jesus is making it clear that the word "God" in the Old Testament could encompass other beings besides YHWH, and His use of the word "theos" here also indicates that this New Testament word for "God" can be plural as well. Most likely what Jesus is saying here is that, if rebellious heavenly beings are "theos," we should clearly have no problem with the Son being "theos." Regarding Mark 10:18, we need to look at Jesus's entire response. Before saying that only God is good, he asks the ruler, "Why do you call me good?" It's important to note that Jesus does not say, "Do not call me good" or "Only the Father is good." We see in Mark 10:21 that Jesus loved this person he was talking to, so we know that Jesus is not trying to confuse him. Thus, if it were important for this person to recognize that Jesus is not God, the loving thing for Jesus to do would be to deny being God. But, Jesus doesn't do that. Instead, Jesus invites the ruler to think about why he recognizes Jesus as being good, if only God is good. Jesus seems to want the ruler to connect the dots for himself, and it's therefore reasonable to think that Jesus most likely wants all of us to do the same thing through faith. Regarding Acts 2:22, you are correct that Jesus is called a man, as that is an important part of his essence. Peter is likely emphasizing Jesus' humanity to this particular audience because this group witnessed Jesus in the flesh, and Peter wants to make it clear that Jesus was not a ghost or some other type of spirit who did not live in this world as a man. Jesus was a real person, in the flesh, who really died, and their eyes did not deceive them. Paul sums up this idea nicely in Philippians 2:6-9 when he says that Jesus first existed in the form of God, then gave up this nature to become "like" a man and that he "appeared" as a man. Both Jesus and the New Testament authors wanted to draw a distinction between Jesus and the Father. But they did not have a problem with Jesus being "God," at least as far as what we can glean from the text. I'm looking forward to your video on worship, and wish you all the best!

[@16yearolddude]

@@Zungie Hello my brother, are you still replying to stuff? I have more verses that show why Jesus IS in fact God, and an understanding of the Trinity, that although we cannot completely comprehend, at least allows us to perceive the Trinity and its existence. God bless you.

[@hadart3393]

God bless u dear brother Amazing video

[@renatovasquez6041]

Trinity inventor pushed Jesus to be a creator, @ Col, 1:15-18 , all things were created by Jesus, and for Jesus, but Jesus denied this, saying, "birds have nests, and fox have holes, but me, i dont have a place to relaxed on, how can all the things were created for him?

[@r1chm]

When Thomas said after touching the holes in Jesus hands. He said, my lord and God. Jesus did not correct him but said. You believe (I am your God) because you seen me. Blessed are those who have not seen (that I am the lord and God) yet still believe.Jesus called himself the son of man yet no man was his birthing father. When they asked John the baptist was he Elijah or a profit. John answered no, but Jesus said he was (for those who can accept it). Jesus did not reveal he was Father God to Philip until later in his ministry.Show us the father and that will be good enough. Don't you know me Philip? Anyone who has seen the me has seen the Father. How can you say show us the Father.

[@user-hj6zj1wt1d]

Brother,as a Muslim, I thank you for accepting monotheism of Prophets.

[@yehudahservetus]

Great work 💜

[@annapaulal.h.1393]

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[@traversniemi5342]

I will be excited to hear from you. Either God is three or he's not all I want is the truth

[@Ma.belle254]

Jehovah-GOD😮Jesus-SON😮Holy spirit-GOD's Power😊 got it? Its the simple truth that those in false religion don't understand

[@CalebTheHumbled]

​@Ma.belle254 If Jesus is not God, should we worship and/or pray to Jesus? Would that be idolatry?

[@CalebTheHumbled]

@LionNotWolf I believe God's first creation was heaven and earth. (Genesis 1:1) And Jesus is the firstborn of the NEW creation. The second creation. The creation that has not been corrupted by sin and that all followers of Christ will one day be rulers of, alongside Christ. I believe Jesus did not exist prior to being formed in the womb of Mary, except in the mind of God.

[@HorizonFallen]

God humbled himself and BECAME man. And he set the example for man by making statements like this. Jews always wanted this boisterous God but in reality God humbles himself by becoming his own creation and truly understanding and guiding them. Do not be deceived. Cheers. Jesus Christ is God incarnate.

[@1lebero]

We are in the last days so false teaching is ALL over the internet. The attack on the Deity of Christ is on par for the enemy. The false church and counterfeit Christianity is EVERYWHERE. It ALWAYS starts with attacking the incarnation.

[@ventin75]

In a town that I live, there are many families. There is one family that has the last name of WOO. The father Adam has a son, Ben. So Ben is the son of Adam. Is Ben a Woo?

[@BooserBoi]

Is this supposed to be a riddle or joke of some kind? I don't get it.

[@Christiannss]

Jesus is "THE WAY" to the Father according to John 14:6. Jesus is "...the only mediator between God and man..." 1 Timothy 2:5 That's another reason why Jesus can not be The Almighty God, the Father..! The Bible calls Jesus "Mighty God" but it never calls him Almighty God..! -Isaiah 9:6,7 God bless you brother..!

[@BiancaAnne]

Spirit & Truth brother! I prayed that God would remove all lie & preconceptions and give me His spirit and truth and He always showed me Bible scriptures that confirmed that Jesus is the son of God not God the son. He sits at the right hand of the Father. God is spirit, Jesus is a man born of the spirit.

[@biblicalunitarian]

Yep, I prayed a very similar prayer a few years ago as a Trinitarian. Thanks for the encouragement!

[@polarityleads]

Question for you: Is Yeshua God in human form? Did he stop those worshipping him in the NT? Why did he say when you see him you see the Father? What you miss is that Yeshua came to live a life as a MAN by faith in the Father since WE can only do that. What type of example is Yeshua for us if he used his Divine powers???? It would not be an example for us at all since WE DO NOT HAVE DIVINE POWERS. Yeshua was both man and GOD, but on his first appearing (other than Christophanies in the OT) as a baby that grew and "learned" just as we do, He was a true 2nd Adam. The OT makes it very clear that God is our savior and the NT says Yeshua is our savior.... because both are one.

[@eddieyoung2104]

Both God and Jesus being our saviour, doesn't have to mean they are the same person. Ultimately God is the saviour, and he used his son as the means of salvation. Which makes Jesus the saviour too. This also explains the verse where God says, there is no saviour beside me. Meaning there's no saviour who exists independently of God. Jesus was working under his father's command, therefore wasn't a saviour besides God, or apart from God, but was an integral part of God's saving.

[@polarityleads]

@@eddieyoung2104They are not the same person. God is found in 3 persons as God... "Godhead bodily"... God IS our Savior and he is God the Son in the person of Yeshua. God is God and Yeshua is the human manifestation of God on Earth. Just as there are Christophanies in the OT that would have been Yeshua in a pre-carnate state. If you deny the diety of Yeshua you risk dying in your sins since you do not bel eve He is I am.

[@eddieyoung2104]

@@polarityleads In reference to Jesus' use of the words 'I am' or 'I am he', I believe he is using the phrase in the same way as we might do. For example John 9:9. If you read through John's gospel you'll notice that Jesus never says he is God. What he does say is that he has been sent by the Father, and sealed by the Father. And he refers to God as his father. He admits to the Samaritan woman, that he is the Christ. And admits to the man born blind that he is the son of God. We can also take into account what Nathanael confesses about Jesus in John 1:49. Also Martha's confession in John 11:27, and Peter's in Matthew 16:16. In addition to this we have the rulers of the Jews who ask Jesus at his trial whether he is the son of God, to which he answers that he is (Matthew 26:63, Luke 22:70). They also ask him if he is the Christ. But they don't ask if he is God. With this background we can understand better what Jesus meant when he said 'I am he'. And can conclude that he was either referring to being the son of God or the Christ.

[@biblicalunitarian]

Thanks for your comment. We actually do have divine powers, we are empowered by the same holy spirit Jesus is empowered by. Also, please stay tuned for another video I made concerning the worship of Jesus, hopefully, we answer your exact question. Put succinctly, people in the NT do worship Jesus, they just worship him as the Messiah, not as God.

[@polarityleads]

@@biblicalunitarian Just as Yeshua as a man put aside his divine powers and did everything by faith in the Father as an example of how we should live by faith we have that same ability. But we do not "have" divine powers. We live by Faith in what God can do if we exercise that faith. Only the divine has divine powers. Just as the angel told John "Do it not" when he tried to worship him, I'm telling you "Do it not" to say you have divine powers. A warning.

[@StruggleEndure]

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[@TorahObservantUnitarian]

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[@XX-qf5zj]

John 5:18 is reporting on the corrupted thinking of the religious leaders who were serving Satan's interests. They considered sons to be equal with Fathers? Actually no. Yet, they considered themselves sons of Abraham, the servant and friend of God. They thus thought of themselves equal to Abraham and looked down on the people around them (something which Abraham would not have done in the first place). So, who you were related to was a really important to their worldview and how they might treat you. The fact that Jesus fit the qualification of the Offspring of the Abrahamic Covenant promise to Abraham by his lineage was already a point of contention with these leaders because that gave Jesus a claim that they didn't have. Jesus was a son of David by both is adopted father and his mother, something most if any of them could not claim. Then, here Jesus reveals that he was sent from heaven, that he existed before their forefather Abraham who is greater than all the sons of Jacob (Israel). Jesus is saying he has a more direct connection to God still and that just riles the disgusting and twisted "servants of the people". They think that this makes him "equal" to God. Of course, what they are exaggerating even in their own heads. The biggest gripe here is that this makes him higher in status to them and they already think of themselves as nearly equal to God.

[@franciscogutierrez3095]

Excellent!!!

[@ant4186]

Isaiah 40 v3 is prophecy of John the Baptist. Who is John the Baptist preparing the way for? The 'LORD', the God of Israel. Who does this make Jesus?

[@ant4186]

If you look at the hebrew for Isaiah 40 v3 you will see it uses the name of God. YHWH is translated LORD. It can't be denied that this passage is used in the gospels for John the Baptist and he is preparing the way for Jesus Christ.

[@biblicalunitarian]

Thanks for your comment. However, simply because Yahweh is translated Lord (in some english translations) and Jesus is called Lord, that does not turn Jesus into Yahweh. Many people are called Lord throughout the scriptures and that does not turn them into Yahweh. Property owners are called “Lord” (Matt. 20:8, “owner” = kurios).. Heads of households are called “Lord” (Mark 13:35, “owner” = kurios). Slave owners are called “Lord” (Matt. 10:24, “master” = kurios). Husbands are called “Lord” (1 Pet. 3:6, “master” = kurios). In Psalm 110:1 Yahweh is someone different from David's "Lord" (Jesus) who is given the nations as an inheritance by Yahweh.

[@ant4186]

Thank you for your reply. I agree with you, you can't make this assumption from Jesus being called 'Lord' alone. Would you agree that the Isaiah 40:3 is about John the Baptist? All four gospel writers would have known this was referring to YHWH. My point is not how the name of God has been translated but that the name of God is in the scripture that is being used to announce Jesus. This does make him God.

[@ant4186]

‭‭John‬ ‭1:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [23] He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. He is referring to Isaiah 40:3 agreed?

[@ant4186]

‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [3] The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of YHWH, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. I have changed LORD back to show you.

[@TheTimmyThomShow]

”And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”“ ‭‭John‬ ‭20‬:‭26‬-‭29‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

[@snuggiema]

“ before Abraham was, I am…”

[@marcinlewandowski9334]

This is awesome, brother. Powerful persuasion

[@TRUTHSEEKER12397]

Very nicely put!

[@goldfish608]

Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the Son of God and for that reason He's God too affirming exactly what the Jews accused Him of. So, Jesus was like, 'Don't worry, I'm not saying I'm equal to God. I'm not crazy and I don't have a demon. Believe my works." Some believed His works and did give glory to God. Trinitarians are rejecting Jesus's rejection of their accusation of equality to God. So, in essence, are trinitarians indirectly saying Jesus lied?

[@jonni1023]

Jesus says at the end of John 5 that Moses speaks of him. So please show me where does Moses ever speak of the son of God? Or does Moses only speak of God?

[@johnminshell6532]

On Sunday 24 December 2023 the Local Anglican Church devoted its entire Service Pushing The Trinity in the Sermon and Hymns to a half Empty Church Who really couldn’t care less ! Really Flogging a Dead Horse .

[@justlolli123]

Well explained.