Early hints proving HUDSON was a mole.. (BLACK OPS 2)

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@massformationpsychosis7681
@massformationpsychosis7681 3 ай бұрын
I feel these black ops games still have a lot to be uncovered in the campaigns. As an adult, I’ve realized how multi dimensional and brilliant these campaigns were. Not just that modern cod is shit, but they captured the layers of secrecy, betrayal, and spying really well…
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Yea there is MANY layers to these games man
@Chenovski00
@Chenovski00 3 ай бұрын
@@massformationpsychosis7681 I was just thinking the same thing man!!
@EvanMorgan-no8kq
@EvanMorgan-no8kq 3 ай бұрын
Real and with Dimitri
@TheKnightyFox
@TheKnightyFox 3 ай бұрын
Especially Black Ops 3. Love how they made deep story and lore, but the presentation of those elements...oh gosh...
@sterlingarcher74
@sterlingarcher74 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I want to say I was 13 or 14 when BO1 came out and it blew me away. Way different from any other COD, and the fact that it was a sequel to WAW was a welcome surprise. BO2 was a worthy sequel that did its own thing as well.
@kylegonzales8353
@kylegonzales8353 3 ай бұрын
The mole is Noriega. In real life, Noriega was in the CIA before he became the dictator of Panama.
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for telling me this, pizza face is the real mole and that makes sense. That’s why I always wondered how long Hudson was working for them without knowing he was being tricked
@nlrenzo9432
@nlrenzo9432 3 ай бұрын
Funny how one government agent turns into a dictator
@JacobS-yz7py
@JacobS-yz7py 3 ай бұрын
​@@nlrenzo9432 it's definitely more than 1 😂
@Bidness156
@Bidness156 3 ай бұрын
@@nlrenzo9432yeah it’s on purpose.
@bubba418
@bubba418 3 ай бұрын
Looooool
@nerochromatic
@nerochromatic 3 ай бұрын
"In their last moments, people show you who they really are." -Joker (The Dark Knight) He likely couldn't choose when he was helping Menendez, but in Hudson's final moments, he showed he was still loyal to his friends when and chose to die so they wouldn't.
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 3 ай бұрын
Thought it was Norman who said it
@ronix-p7q
@ronix-p7q 19 күн бұрын
Hudson is the best character in the entire franchise.
@ezioauditore8946
@ezioauditore8946 3 ай бұрын
Hudson wasn't a rat he was captured by menendez and was forced to give them up
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Ya, I came to that conclusion at the end of the video
@sitosamin
@sitosamin 3 ай бұрын
But, how Hudson get captured? Is it when Alex at Africa?
@trev9168
@trev9168 3 ай бұрын
@@sitosaminkinda implied it was shortly before the invasion
@ChillKaren
@ChillKaren 3 ай бұрын
That's the definition of a rat die in honor and keep ur comrades alive that's like being found ina hide n seek game and instantly start saying "alright he found us guys come on out" and starts pointing out ppls hiding spots he was going to die either way but decides to not die alone coward
@beastmode1915
@beastmode1915 2 ай бұрын
@@sitosaminbefore the invasion. The mole in the CIA likely leaked the location of each of the members and the details of their invasion, where they’d go, etc
@RapCityco
@RapCityco 3 ай бұрын
Hudson got captured because of Noriega. He wasn’t working with menendez he was trying to save David.
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
True
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 3 ай бұрын
@@theterriblepandaexactly you’re wrong, bro folded
@beastmode1915
@beastmode1915 2 ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235did you watch to the end of the video?
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 2 ай бұрын
@@beastmode1915 title was clickbait
@ronix-p7q
@ronix-p7q 19 күн бұрын
⁠@@theterriblepandaYou know, you could change the title to something like "Was Hudson the Mole ?"
@VeryScarySmile
@VeryScarySmile 3 ай бұрын
Treyarch "confirmed" Mason's death as a lead up to BO6's release, but I swear people are just blind and take things at face value. The whole marketing campaign for this game is "the truth lies." Why would anybody believe he's dead when they're literally telling us to not believe the "truth." He's so obviously not dead. Frank is just canonically a lousy shot 😂. (Update) I'm fucking right and those who said I was coping are wrong. Just before the game came out Treyarch released a trailer that used the clip from BO2 where Mason gets shot in the leg instead of head, and then the clip showing he has no bullet hole in his head, confirming he survived. In the campaign, Mason is PRESUMED KIA by Woods and Adler, but he is not confirmed KIA by anyone. He obviously can't be confirmed KIA when he's not fucking dead, just MIA, which fits in perfectly with BO2 even bore the good ending.
@ugiustuskeiserus8066
@ugiustuskeiserus8066 2 ай бұрын
Extreme copium
@ProfessorDanti
@ProfessorDanti 2 ай бұрын
@@ugiustuskeiserus8066no
@AwholePieMadeForYou
@AwholePieMadeForYou 2 ай бұрын
​@@ugiustuskeiserus8066 Or he is putting two and two together if what he says about "The truth lies" is true.
@arsenaldu77
@arsenaldu77 2 ай бұрын
Never seen a giga copium like that
@tirsolouisegaccion4419
@tirsolouisegaccion4419 2 ай бұрын
So Black Ops 2 Canon good ending is not canon?
@LoathSam
@LoathSam 3 ай бұрын
1:22 Hudson WAS tied up and tossed in the middle of nowhere along with Mason, Woods and Zhao and left in the desert sun. The only reason they survived is because two random passerbys find them. Also, if he's the mole, why would he be tied up in Suffer With Me (while wearing clothing and face-paint, indicating he was going to fight alongside Mason and Woods) and then tell Menendez to kill him (in the most painful way possible), instead of the guy he was supposedly setting up and leading astray for years?
@craig2196
@craig2196 3 ай бұрын
Yeah...this video seems a bit half cocked. We all agree Hudson can be shady, but a mole? Seems a bit too far for someone willing to die for woods.
@IShowJit
@IShowJit 3 ай бұрын
yeah Hudson was clearly forced to setup Mason since Menendez was holding David hostage whoever gave Menendez access to David, and by proxy Hudson, is the mole we'll probably find in BO6
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
At the end of the video I came to the conclusion Hudson was not a mole but he was being forced into setting us up
@BoxersFracture
@BoxersFracture 3 ай бұрын
@@theterriblepanda He wasn't even tricked into setting you up though, he just got captured by Menendez and was used
@channel45853
@channel45853 3 ай бұрын
​@@craig2196he is one of the moles. In Black Ops 2, the Invasion of Panama, he was a mole, indisputably. I also think he may have been a mole since the second mission of the game, but we know for sure that he was a mole in the Invasion of Panama mission. That doesn't change just because he sacrificed himself.
@Kriegsmen-7803
@Kriegsmen-7803 3 ай бұрын
It’s so sad that killing mason is the canon ending.
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
😔
@3ofSpades
@3ofSpades 3 ай бұрын
Victory is not measured by losses. It's measured by gains. Although we may have lost Mason, we prevailed over Raul Menendez. And unified the east and west.
@Roc_Official
@Roc_Official 3 ай бұрын
The cannon ending is what YOU think. That’s how I see it 🤷🏽‍♂️
@travis396
@travis396 3 ай бұрын
Real the cannon is mason dead.?
@manubazzucchi
@manubazzucchi 3 ай бұрын
​@Roc_Official is how Activision says😂
@chrisrichfield8906
@chrisrichfield8906 2 ай бұрын
I liked Ed Harris as Hudson, because he just feels like a CoD character. He was the bad guy in Enemy at the gates, which i feel might have inspired parts of the WaW campaign. Also he is the bad guy in The Rock, which i feel inspired the MW2(2009) story. I feel like CoD wouldnt exist without the movies he helped make great.
@UAa320
@UAa320 3 ай бұрын
It couldn't be just be Hudson, Hudson simply followed orders from a superior. I think the mole may be Black from Cold War or maybe even Sims.
@IShowJit
@IShowJit 3 ай бұрын
it could be Black he was shady as fuck and we don't even see him just hear his dialogue definitely got some possible antagonist vibes from him and he could easily hand over David to Menendez and get his own guys captured/killed
@UAa320
@UAa320 3 ай бұрын
@@IShowJit exactly, we only heard Black give Hudson orders in Cold War. I think Black was Raul Menendez mole and had connections with Manuel Noriega in Panama.
@EldenLord-wh4ov
@EldenLord-wh4ov 3 ай бұрын
Fucking Adler
@channel45853
@channel45853 3 ай бұрын
Sims? That doesn't even make any sense. Nor was it hinted at.
@UAa320
@UAa320 3 ай бұрын
@channel45853 it does make sense Lawrence Sims was a part of MACV-SOG who fought alongside Russell Adler in the game it's mentioned he has connections with the CIA and knows many contacts.
@justaguy1708
@justaguy1708 3 ай бұрын
“Mimee-cry” lol
@thegingerjew8998
@thegingerjew8998 3 ай бұрын
Lmfaooo
@Dctctx
@Dctctx 3 ай бұрын
“Mujadine”
@WATCHINGRIGHTN0W
@WATCHINGRIGHTN0W 2 ай бұрын
Knew I’d find this. Do you think he knows yet?😂😂
@justaguy1708
@justaguy1708 2 ай бұрын
@@WATCHINGRIGHTN0W for sure lol
@FPSWreck
@FPSWreck 3 ай бұрын
Never got over Hudson’s voice change.
@YoSauceBrazyy
@YoSauceBrazyy 3 ай бұрын
Right? Black ops 1 Hudson is the only canon Hudson to me. They did an awesome job making this dude unlikeable in the other games
@liamfrr
@liamfrr 3 ай бұрын
@@YoSauceBrazyyYea, but michael keaton tho!😂
@goob8945
@goob8945 3 ай бұрын
Ed Harris was Hudson to a T. After BO1 I felt the treyarch stories kinda fell off
@linkfreak1176
@linkfreak1176 3 ай бұрын
​@@YoSauceBrazyyShould have just made it a different character. Ed Harris did an amazing job in bo1
@drpygmr2416
@drpygmr2416 3 ай бұрын
2:40 if you collect the burning intel a mission or two before this one you'll also get a line from mason during the black screen that references the intel.
@theweekndxo7438
@theweekndxo7438 12 күн бұрын
Hudson sacrificed his life to save Woods when it was Woods fault they were in that mess. Woods killed Menendez’ sister, Woods should’ve been the one to die and suffer the consequences but Hudson still took the hit instead despite him having a family and Woods having nothing. Hudson is the GOAT
@user-rz3jl9xr1l
@user-rz3jl9xr1l Күн бұрын
True my friend
@Mega554321
@Mega554321 3 ай бұрын
First time I ever heard someone say mimicry like that 😂😂😂
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
I knew I was gonna pronounce that wrong LMAO
@ndavid329
@ndavid329 3 ай бұрын
@@theterriblepandawho is Mimi and why is she crying. 😤😤😤😤
@alexhightower4040
@alexhightower4040 3 ай бұрын
@@theterriblepandahow did you come across that word anyway to butcher it so bad lol
@mikemccross350
@mikemccross350 2 ай бұрын
​@@theterriblepandawhat are they teaching at school 😭
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 2 ай бұрын
@@mikemccross350 nothing at all
@PLANDerLinde99
@PLANDerLinde99 3 ай бұрын
Hudson: "Woah don't fucking start the mission yet...I ain't put on my glasses"
@MisterDragon_
@MisterDragon_ 3 ай бұрын
Hudson, from the 1960's to EARLY 1989 was NOT a mole. He was only a mole from LATE 1989 to his death. The people Kravchenko was talking about was a small group of people he hired either after his father's death to the capture of Woods in Angola. 1:21 This is because he was confident that the CIA couldn't be breached. He was pretty confident in his government. The reason he stands up is because of your FOV, he isn't supposed to be seen after Mason gets strangled. 1:58 Because thats the ENTIRE point of the mission? They were supposed to capture him, why wouldn't he want Menendez to die here? Secondly, Raul was extremely close to the grenade, and while we know Menendez only got scarring on his face, Hudson, who was also knocked out would've seen the bag and thought he died. he also says "today never happened" because it was a blunder and SHOULDN'T be brought up, ever again. 4:00 Bro... what? 4:14 He got the entire right side of his face scarred from the grenade, which he only reached when it was at the end of the room 4:35 Because the objective was to kill Raul Menendez due to a prisoner transfer. 5:05 Yes, but only during the Panamanian Invasion. This is even confirmed by the COD Wiki which states "Some time before the operation started, Menendez managed to capture 10-year-old David Mason and used him against Hudson" under Hudson's page.
@bearsausage8599
@bearsausage8599 Ай бұрын
No, he got his face scarred from being shot in the face in that mission you rescue woods on in the cargo container on the river.
@StoneAgeWarfare
@StoneAgeWarfare 2 күн бұрын
@@bearsausage8599 He's talking about the part of his face that has burns on it, not the eye.
@bryanenty8385
@bryanenty8385 3 ай бұрын
Bo1 and bo2 campaigns are so nostalgic 😚
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Indeed 🙂‍↕️
@how2jager273
@how2jager273 3 ай бұрын
I think the strongest theory so far is that Hudson had to follow orders from the mole, whether knowingly or unknowingly (probably the latter)
@k3lerxwew
@k3lerxwew 3 ай бұрын
i've searched up about why did hudson do that and found a lot of videos explaining but they don't explain it like you do here, i really love your vids man, keep uploading we all love you
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much man. I really am not all the way perfect with these type of videos but I enjoy the fact that you guys also help in the comments because it really allows us to all come together on these games and topics that we love and that’s the most important part of it
@k3lerxwew
@k3lerxwew 3 ай бұрын
@@theterriblepanda love when you start talking about these topics and hidden things and mysteries of cod series, keep uploading man ❤
@tannakiTV
@tannakiTV 22 күн бұрын
with black ops 6 out now, I think its interesting that we now know (based on a safehouse interaction with adler) that hudson was aware of pantheon having infiltrated the CIA at least a few weeks before panama, and I honestly like this story retcon it makes it so hudson is still AWARE, but it isn't actually something he's playing a direct part in
@SndjjwwejWdbbwene
@SndjjwwejWdbbwene 3 ай бұрын
Crazy how the new Cold War and the new bo6 want to continue these campaigns without the original voice actors for woods and mason and they don’t even look the same as before
@G700myDr1nk
@G700myDr1nk 3 ай бұрын
Yeah they fucked that up. Will never be able to capture that atmosphere again.
@blightchip4236
@blightchip4236 3 ай бұрын
I still hate how secretive Hudson is ESPECIALLY IN FUCKING COLD WAR I don’t believe he was ever a mole or spy but still he NEVER gives all the details
@hylianxbox6586
@hylianxbox6586 2 ай бұрын
He's apart of the CIA Of course he won't tell the truth
@myikeastore
@myikeastore 3 ай бұрын
I still don’t believe that mason is dead because the bo6 advertising litterally has ‘the truth lies’ so in my opinion he isn’t dead
@sitosamin
@sitosamin 3 ай бұрын
We have to wait for bo6 to out first, so we can know if mason alive or dead
@DaRealDeeJayJD
@DaRealDeeJayJD 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately it’s been confirmed that mason and Hudson are both dead in bo6.
@Xlotical
@Xlotical 3 ай бұрын
Mason goes hiding for 30 years and everyone assumes he died with Hudson so it’s possible he is alive but not in game
@V2Plushi
@V2Plushi 3 ай бұрын
​@@DaRealDeeJayJDI doubt devs would spoil that on a random tweet either way mason and Hudson will be assumed dead anyway
@DaRealDeeJayJD
@DaRealDeeJayJD 3 ай бұрын
@@V2Plushi if mason is alive and “the truth lies” is part of it then bravo to treyarch!
@oscars4608
@oscars4608 3 ай бұрын
Hudson wasn’t a mole, the only reason he let Woods shoot Mason is that he was being held captive by Menendez.
@Shiro_Naraka
@Shiro_Naraka 2 ай бұрын
I'm certain killing Alex is NOT the canon ending. If you watch the opening scene of Black Ops 2 where he's lying next to David, there's no bullet in his head.
@AdamasutojrAJR
@AdamasutojrAJR 3 ай бұрын
"Mason death is canon" "the truth lies" ya'll need to keep up fr
@JASMINE-THE-RICHTOFEN-FANGIRL
@JASMINE-THE-RICHTOFEN-FANGIRL 3 ай бұрын
they confirmed that it's just a marketing tag line and nothing else the truth lies has nothing to do with the story just like pawn takes pawn
@cardboard_shaft
@cardboard_shaft 3 ай бұрын
are you african?
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 3 ай бұрын
It only applies in game not for tweets
@AdamasutojrAJR
@AdamasutojrAJR 3 ай бұрын
@@Deathmare235 then why did they mention it now and not years ago
@mrrokiisbored
@mrrokiisbored 3 ай бұрын
Still its considered a marketing strategy ​@AdamasutojrAJR
@WarVeteran213
@WarVeteran213 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think Hudson intentionally betrayed them I think Menendez captured Hudson and forced him to betray Mason and woods that’s my theory I wouldn’t think they would go as far as to ruin his character, even if they have a different actor for his voice in black ops 2 also fun fact suffer with me is the last Black ops mission in the 20th century until possibly black ops 6 might change that at least in that universe
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Yea, my biggest question has been trying to figure out what exact mission was Hudson starting to work for Raul. I feel like it was happening longer than we expect and I don’t think Hudson even knew he was being set up to be captured the whole time
@joshuajensenfraser
@joshuajensenfraser 3 ай бұрын
Hudson was held at gunpoint by menedez during suffer with me
@Weincraft
@Weincraft 3 ай бұрын
i will never ever forget your pronunciation of mimicry
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
😭 honestly I think it’s so funny when I pronounce something wrong and don’t notice until you guys mention it. It’s like a piece of history for the channel
@haydenhudson9888
@haydenhudson9888 3 ай бұрын
The real story is what happened to weaver, him and hudson were great partners in black ops 1 ? never played Cold War I haven’t played any cod since black ops 3, black ops 2 was the last cod which I really enjoyed the campaign!
@TheAHuman
@TheAHuman 2 ай бұрын
I assume that, as the Zombies universe resembles the campaign universe, Weaver probably got some job as a higher up in some CIA department.
@TDM-07
@TDM-07 3 ай бұрын
man... This game is a masterpiece, no wonder I started to love cod, especially BO series, after playing it It's sad we can't go back to the old days...
@masonwilliams1222
@masonwilliams1222 3 ай бұрын
One thing I just noticed as of recent is that if you complete a play through where you resist killing Kravchenko long enough for him to mention the CIA mole as well as pick up the CIA memo in Menendez's compound you'll get extra dialogue in the motel room with Noriega where Woods and Mason put both pieces of evidence together in their convo. In addition to Woods hearing the voice of Kravchenko (unlocked by resisting shooting him in too quickly in Afghanistan) and bringing it up to Mason, Mason will respond by mentioning the CIA memo in the compound (unlocked by picking it up) before he states "there's something else going on here." An interesting note is that if you only discover one of these pieces of evidence and only unlock one of these dialogue lines, meaning either finding the CIA memo OR resisting killing Kravchenko (but not both), then Woods will be the one to say whichever line you unlock.
@NEELNEILNEELE
@NEELNEILNEELE 3 ай бұрын
Bro istg, "Suffer With Me" was one of the eeriest mission in the Black Ops series. The whole time, u could tell something was "off" about it
@doctoroktoberfest7840
@doctoroktoberfest7840 3 ай бұрын
I would’ve just made a joke that Hudson is actually 2 different clones in Cold War and black ops 2
@YoSauceBrazyy
@YoSauceBrazyy 3 ай бұрын
Make that 3, his black ops 1 counterpart was badass
@Bidness156
@Bidness156 3 ай бұрын
The fact they took 12 years to make a direct sequel is dumb
@frost7724
@frost7724 3 ай бұрын
yeah man fr hopefully we’ll see who’s the mole in bo6
@baroncross3060
@baroncross3060 3 ай бұрын
​@@frost7724It's probably more than 1.
@frost7724
@frost7724 3 ай бұрын
@@baroncross3060 yeah
@Foxikaze
@Foxikaze Ай бұрын
@@frost7724 Gotta be Adler. Guy was and has always been shady
@frost7724
@frost7724 Ай бұрын
@@Foxikaze yea fr
@eazye619
@eazye619 8 күн бұрын
Noriega is nicknamed “Pineapple” face
@cillianennis9921
@cillianennis9921 Ай бұрын
I feel like Hudsons blackmail was more likely to do with his own family but when given the option of living he'd rather not face them after betraying Mason & having to choose to betray Woods or Masons son meaning he died. Don't feel like Mason's son would be enough leverage to make him betray Mason himself but his own child would make sense.
@sahbiah
@sahbiah 3 ай бұрын
Just would like to say... Started watching the vid as I was eating dinner. Right on the first seconds that "Hudson song"/riff started playing and I felt really badass and motivated to cut the fish on my plate and eat the rice.
@haunterghostpoison4651
@haunterghostpoison4651 Ай бұрын
I swear the story for Bo2 jusr fills me with so much dread, like it's a horrible nightmare you can't up from
@cunk1020
@cunk1020 3 ай бұрын
black ops 1 and 2 are so well made. great video glad it came up in recommended!
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir
@theclone3831
@theclone3831 3 ай бұрын
Wade Wilson 0:06
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
😭
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
I’m so happy Wade Wilson happened. It lets me know who been here
@claytonjones6119
@claytonjones6119 3 ай бұрын
@@theterriblepandaI don’t get it
@isaacprivette142
@isaacprivette142 3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand
@slayer_reworked0000
@slayer_reworked0000 3 ай бұрын
​@@claytonjones6119 Wade Wilson
@АлександрАрхипов-р4г
@АлександрАрхипов-р4г 2 ай бұрын
when Woods interegate Kravchenko last one said "he even have people in CIA" anf Hudson get nervous. very nervous
@labcdel4384
@labcdel4384 Ай бұрын
you deserve more subs. The way you tell your take on the story, and the video effects that help tie everything together. Is just amazing. please keep this up. earned a sub
@lutskeits2804
@lutskeits2804 3 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the CIA documents cause an extra voiceline with a mini flashback when capturing Noriega
@RYUGB2000
@RYUGB2000 3 ай бұрын
Black ops 1 and 2 will always have a lot of hiding parts that we don't know about in the campaign but they sure are better than any other games we have now in 2024 😁😃
@opanababy
@opanababy 3 ай бұрын
“me me cry” 😂😂 man cmon
@Ghost-yd7ep
@Ghost-yd7ep 2 ай бұрын
The hints were there and the music and noriega acting so calmly and the blind-folded person wearing camo pants, as if I'd fall for that sh*t you can bet I knew immediately first playthrough, and shot anywhere else than a headshot, I still feel great about it, my gut feeling and awareness came in clutch!
@Burning-d2v
@Burning-d2v 8 күн бұрын
At the end of black ops Cold War bad ending Hudson burns down the safe house
@iconoclast_rain
@iconoclast_rain 17 күн бұрын
“where we will take our final steps” 😂🤣😂🤣 cuz woods gets kneecapped 😂😂
@AmateurDomin8r
@AmateurDomin8r 3 ай бұрын
Even before you begin to snipe woods mentions to David about Alex’s death, I didn’t realize it until I replayed it last month
@benzym
@benzym 3 ай бұрын
I always knew there was something sketchy about Hudson but love that you’ve compiled some stuff i even missed!
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Yea he was being super weird but at the end of the day he had no choice and he even traded his own life for Mason’s son and Frank Woods
@mrSlippinidiot
@mrSlippinidiot 3 ай бұрын
I still think the mole was MCKNIGHT THAT MAN WAS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN BY THE END OF THE MISSION
@Largebean22
@Largebean22 3 ай бұрын
Pretty awesome video. 100% that the ‘corruption’ graffiti and the picture of the parrots were put there on purpose. Those are details that they chose to add. I really like how you showed that Hudson really was trying to do the right thing all along. Many people think Hudson is a straight up traitor, but I believe that he was trying to save David and potentially his family as well. It would’ve been so cool to see if we would’ve learned more about that story, but unfortunately we got Black Ops 3 as the last campaign written by that team at Treyarch
@Grand-procrastinater
@Grand-procrastinater 3 ай бұрын
I do remember as a kid replaying the campaign multiple times that Hudson was the only one who did not get beaten up. Then I see this video
@zapatitosonic8975
@zapatitosonic8975 17 күн бұрын
Come back to this video, sadly it’s confirmed Hudson isn’t the mole by BO6. Though I honestly prefer this theory, I think to an extent- it works more well if he became the mole after time and fate mission since he must have investigating the mole only to be dragged by his peer and silenced.
@MonkeyGoatLicker
@MonkeyGoatLicker Ай бұрын
It would make scence that McKnight would be the mole. The last time you hear him is when you get to Noriega.
@OpticHamster69
@OpticHamster69 3 ай бұрын
Holy fuck good analysis, also another detail I noticed was when you are playing Mason when you first meet Menendez he doesn't seem shocked that a gun is pointed at him so I think in a way he embraces death and is calm which he was throughout the cutscene with Mason so the same could be applied if he was actually Nexus target. As for when you shoot Mason he looks like he is wearing something similar to what Reznov would wear, same with Woods and Mason comms going out at the worst time on the elevator ride up. Just a random theory
@punishedbill3236
@punishedbill3236 3 ай бұрын
Bo2 did the whole tlou2 thing where you play as the villain for a moment and kill almost all of the og cast
@frankestradag9474
@frankestradag9474 22 күн бұрын
the thing that happened is that halfway through the mission hudson and alex got ambushed by menendez and thats when he had to turn on them
@VNG_MIKEY
@VNG_MIKEY 3 ай бұрын
I wish we could have gotten Hudson’s perspective on when Him and David Mason were captured like how we got with Menendez.
@FatedTalons
@FatedTalons 2 ай бұрын
Always thought it was plural when Kravchenko said menendez had people in the cia, Salazar was also obviously feeding info to Menendez in all the 2025 missions prior to him revealing himself as a traitor, especially the times where he was conveniently separated from Section and Harper. Can't wait to possibly learn more about the cia moles in bo6
@dawidwojacki5049
@dawidwojacki5049 2 ай бұрын
I've played the campaign at least 4 times and I've never noticed that. Damn, BOII was a masterpiece
@lundonx116
@lundonx116 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but mimmy cry was hilarious ☠️ "mimic-ree"
@ablackghostmyguy3741
@ablackghostmyguy3741 3 ай бұрын
One thing is for sure hudson got it BAD when i first saw him get killed it was a little disturbing and honestly quite the shock
@odespair8362
@odespair8362 2 ай бұрын
Mimicry pronunciation was adorable
@qurimpv3
@qurimpv3 Ай бұрын
I appreciate your use of captions, i can watch this anywhere ❤ Oh wait just the beginning, i still appreciate it tho
@nogman4057
@nogman4057 3 ай бұрын
Such an incredible game that we’re still talking about 12 years later
@khaostheking3070
@khaostheking3070 Ай бұрын
Hudson is the definition of Lock In 🔐
@andrewceballos5404
@andrewceballos5404 3 ай бұрын
Parrots That's what your going with parrots
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
yes let’s ignore everything else and be bothered by the parrots
@andrewceballos5404
@andrewceballos5404 3 ай бұрын
@theterriblepanda it just feels like that one was reaching look everyone is trying to be the guy that uncovers something groundbreaking everyday I feel the birds hurt that effort
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewceballos5404 i get that. im not trynna claim to discover anything i just enjoy talking about the game
@Cowldwink
@Cowldwink 3 ай бұрын
Hudson be Mr. Piccolo for David XD
@ghastlyanarchy1720
@ghastlyanarchy1720 10 күн бұрын
These games had such great stories...
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 21 сағат бұрын
Are people really upset that killing mason was what really happened? Like him being gone for 30 years really makes no sense at all, and obviously you need to use context clues in BO2. Woods wanted to kill Menedez, he is angry about how he SHOULD have thought something was weird and done more, but he didn’t, so it only makes sense that he’d listen to Hudson and then be tricked because old Woods speaks and acts as if he had been tricked
@wentoneisendon6502
@wentoneisendon6502 3 ай бұрын
You never see this in games nowadays. Treyarch did gun models that were just for the single player and never intended for MP
@MercifulFox
@MercifulFox 2 ай бұрын
Frank Woods is the definition of a bad-ass. S tier character in any call of duty imo
@lvtolow
@lvtolow 3 ай бұрын
Holy crap didn’t know about this but it brings a lot of speculation about Hudson taking the bad side.
@BillionaireMouse
@BillionaireMouse 3 ай бұрын
i think Raul has Hudson's family captured too as he said he has family so the woods could take the death penalty.
@blackknightstudios9958
@blackknightstudios9958 3 ай бұрын
Idk about Hudson being the mole, he gets tied up too in Afghanistan and Menendez killed Hudson as revenge for his sister. I don’t think he could’ve had David Mason for long before at least somebody would’ve noticed he was gone from home. And outside of protecting David he had zero motivation to help Menendez
@project_b1224
@project_b1224 2 ай бұрын
I did not realise this, wow, this is such an epiphany.
@A-gonzalez-2228
@A-gonzalez-2228 3 ай бұрын
Hudson is not the mole. He was only taken advantage of right before the invasion of Panama during Suffer with me. Adler is the mole.
@dolon6379
@dolon6379 Ай бұрын
My boy panda southern af “brain warshed” 🤠
@icedgamers8222
@icedgamers8222 3 ай бұрын
Wow what a deep story to a campaign
@Not-yi6bt
@Not-yi6bt Ай бұрын
“Pizza face” 😂💀💀💀
@keynanmartinez
@keynanmartinez Ай бұрын
What he did was Unforgiving for Mason and Woods but at least he did it so David wouldn't die so i don't blame him. Plus imo if you get the True Good Ending i feel like Hudson death wasn't in vain don't those terrible actions from Mendez.
@jarbo3major
@jarbo3major 3 ай бұрын
Bringing back campaign messages in 2024!! 14 Years Later🎮
@Trikthasmoker998
@Trikthasmoker998 3 ай бұрын
Now that I think about it. My pea sized brain never really understood the campaigns the more I watch your videos 😂
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Don’t worry. I haven’t come to understand anything until recently and even now it’s new stuff I always learn. This is exactly why WE NEED to have these conversations lmao. Helps us all learn
@dairyking6514
@dairyking6514 3 ай бұрын
I think instead of a headshot if you hit him in the shoulder area that that would make more sense as a "missed" shot
@Ricardo_Rick
@Ricardo_Rick 3 ай бұрын
there is a CIA memo in menendez complex that is also mentioned in that scene if you get it (the same scene where mason says something is wrong)
@raken0230
@raken0230 29 күн бұрын
The cut off at 0:09 is hilarious to me 😭😭😭
@DeputyMartin
@DeputyMartin 3 ай бұрын
Always really enjoyed his character never understood the hate and his brutal end really sad another underrated character would be Bowman will forever hate those scenes
@Tyrannobenji101
@Tyrannobenji101 3 ай бұрын
The power of Mim me cry 3:57 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔊🔊🔊🔥 🔥
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
LMAOOOO MIMICRYYYYYYYYYY
@Tyrannobenji101
@Tyrannobenji101 3 ай бұрын
@@theterriblepandasorry couldn’t help myself. Nice video tho! Feel like we’ll get more answers with the next black ops game. Said to be about corruption within the cia
@CrazyGorilla99
@CrazyGorilla99 3 ай бұрын
@@theterriblepandalol I didn’t even put it together that’s what you meant or was trying to say great videos you’re a awesome dude!!.
@nativecanad1an564
@nativecanad1an564 2 ай бұрын
A wise man once said 'but power, corrupts'
@zario4083
@zario4083 3 ай бұрын
Ion think hudson was the mole kravchenko was talking about. He said “Moles” in plural so they were probably just a bunch of random goons. Hudson only helped menendez because he had David held captive and threatened to kill him.
@shark899138
@shark899138 3 ай бұрын
In Panama during the reign of Noriega: Everytime we turn the corner we see corruption Yeah. I imagine you would
@bighoomba96
@bighoomba96 3 ай бұрын
Bro said “Mimi-cry”
@QwothQ_Gaming
@QwothQ_Gaming 21 күн бұрын
Well well well
@theta_clips
@theta_clips Ай бұрын
One thing I always thought was very stupid was the short-sightedness displayed by Woods during the campaign. Obviously he's not some mastermind, but the guy's in the CIA. Clearly he must be intelligent. He made the same mistake that Mason made during Black Ops in Baikonur, not confirming the kill. Woods tells Mason "anything in that car is a charcoal briquette", and Mason agrees with him - then Dragovich is alive in Laos five years later. In Black Ops 2, it's the same thing - Woods thinks he kills Menendez (by the same method as Mason supposedly killing Dragovich back in BO1, explosion), and also does not identify the body, trusting Hudson's words to him on it. I don't know, I think BO2 has a great story, but that was one thing that never really sat right with me. Woods was so driven by hate and lust for blood that it seemed... I dunno, implausible that he wouldn't make sure Menendez was dead.
@misaelv.6681
@misaelv.6681 2 ай бұрын
Nobody let this man cook
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 2 ай бұрын
Lmao
@rorykeefe8954
@rorykeefe8954 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t get the key that unlocks this story until like Black Ops 12
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda 3 ай бұрын
Lmaooo
@MallyEmpire
@MallyEmpire Күн бұрын
Great video man!!
@theterriblepanda
@theterriblepanda Күн бұрын
Thank you brother!
@kentuckyfriedchildren5385
@kentuckyfriedchildren5385 3 ай бұрын
I don't think Hudson was the mole, the mole set him up and gave Menendez Hudson's and David's location, David is the only reason he went along with Mason's supposed killing
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