Earth 2 CEO challenged me to re-create their tech in 7 days

Earth 2 CEO shane isaac did not take kindly to my video on E2 and publicly challenged me to recreate the WHOLE tech demo in 7 days, despite the fact i only claimed one of the features to be doable in 30 mins...
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[@grayaj23]

I am itchin' with anticipation. You got this. And the challenge the way he framed it isn't even fair -- his ask is far more complex than anything you said in your comments.

[@bommel22]

Yet Callum accepted the challenge. So now it is time to deliver

[@blackroberts6290]

@@bommel22 Callum acting like that 'mediocre pianist guy' so cool lmao

[@learntooilpaint]

@@bommel22 doesn’t matter if he delivers or not. He could deliver bare minimum product, and all he has to do is admit defeat and ask Shane to show his delivery of the same thing. We all know Shane can’t or won’t.

[@Thelos90]

@@learntooilpaint exactly, there isnt even proof that they made their own engine. basically they just hope Callum is able to make a new engine so they can copy/steal it. normal behavior for E2 community & CEO.

[@darkcognitive]

@@Thelos90 hmm, nah they never claimed to make their own engine. They are using unity. Pretty sure Callum will use Unreal, but he might have used unity.....he definitely did not create his own engine, nowhere near enough time for that.

[@EmberQuill]

Imagine being the CEO of a whole company and deciding that the best use of your time is directly challenging a KZbinr to do in 7 days, alone, what you claim to have accomplished in two years with 60 devs. And then imagine losing that challenge.

[@vinchinzo594]

"imagine the thing we all can see in front of us!"

[@rick5078]

and then imagine the utter insanity of a backlash from the main investors after they find out you lost the challenge you yourself put forth..

[@michaelhanson5773]

or what the company couldn't even do in 2 years.

[@sixgod5765]

and then them saying they finna sell it to the public XD

[@tindekappa9047]

He might as well be the CEO of Stealing candy from babies limited, there's not a lot of prestige that comes with that that would indicate he's above it.

[@madaggar9765]

Getting Josh Strife Hayse to do the voice over was a nice touch.

[@mass_stay_tapped_in528]

Extremely underrated comment

[@ramenbramen3859]

The quip about adding earth3 to the worst MMO series was pretty good.

[@diersteinjulien6773]

I felt the urge to switch the video to my second monitor

[@Qroxta]

"Worst MMO Ever? - Earth 3" had me almost on the floor with laughter

[@franklynn2816]

Absolutely! Made me smile instantly! Nice to see that two oh my favorite KZbinrs seem to actually be friends!

[@bekuta7223]

I've seen Earth 2 people saying that Callum's version is a "sad attempt" because it doesn't look as nice as what Earth 2 has shown off. They seem to forget that Callum did this on his own in a week vs Earth 2 taking two years with 60 guys.

[@GameDevNerd]

They also seem to forget that Earth 2 showed off a Gaia terrain and some other Unity asset store assets in a video and they never showed us that it's really integrated into any actual _game_ ... it was just video of a Unity scene with pre-made assets ... a static Unity scene with pre-made assets is easy to make ... and actual game is _very_ hard, and they've never showed us that they have one. They're just selling tiles and showing us random, disconnected video clips, and using fancy words to describe default Unity features ...

[@DominicciSkycam]

It's an honest solid attempt but you have to notice the difference between the two. The problem is that the likes of Upton want to roast ppl who are also making solid attempts. Do I think Earth2 is a scam? Yes. Do I think Upton is hating on the E2 project for the sake of clout? Yes. Its easy to pick on a project that over promised early on. But I do think shane and his team are legit trying, in good faith and not just some BS, to make this happen. Problem is we're still about 10 years out from having the computing and storage power necessary at consumer pricing to make it happen, so they'll fail. But they'll go down swinging one YT callout at a time

[@GameDevNerd]

@@DominicciSkycam how can it be a scam but also they're not trying to be a scam? Those two things are mutually exclusive. A scam is inherently malicious and is intentional deception. Even if they started off with the best of intentions, the deception, dishonesty and exaggerations we're seeing now have crossed the line into scam territory. They haven't showed anyone a _game_ yet, all we've seen are unrelated, disconnected videos of them using some Unity assets from the Asset Store in a single scene. Very easy to do, even for beginners and junior developers. Making an actual game, however, is very, very difficult. If they claimed they were going to make something like an Elder Scrolls game I'd say they were big ol' lying and don't have the talent ... but they went way beyond that and said they're making a world like "Ready Player One" and "the Matrix", promised 10,000+ different types of games in one, and claim they'll deliver a photorealistic, 3D VR version of the entire planet ... anyone who has the talent to develop games would know that's still way beyond the technological limits of hardware, software, tools and methodologies. Their company won't accomplish it even in 100 years.

[@redhel]

@@DominicciSkycam cringe

[@RisenOswald]

@@DominicciSkycam you can't keep your own story straight..

[@RydarkVoyager]

As a programmer myself, that was some outstanding dev work to do in a week. I think you just put Earth-2 out of business. Hoping you get your well deserved $10K.

[@styxzero1675]

Shane is a scammer I doubt he will pay any money his words are worth shit all.

[@charles5212]

So do I, but you know those multimillion dollar CEOs, willing to sacrifice their integrity to keep their money.

[@celtia6131]

You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect a blatant scammer to honor his word

[@eduardopena5893]

He won't. Shane left a lot of terms ambiguous and is already denigrated Callum's work. He said Callum failed and will be releasing a video to explain why in a couple of days.

[@lynxfirenze4994]

TLDR: Shane will whine about things that have no relevance or try to shift the goalposts as he's already doing and refuse to pay whilst trying to spin this into further evidence of the Shadow Cabal against Earth 2.

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

Shane: "Make it 774,000m x774,000m" Callum: "I went ahead and made the entire world" Shane: "Haha, I told you all Callum couldn't follow such easy rules. He lost! I said 774000 and he didn't do it, he made his own rules because he couldn't succeed hahaaa"

[@roland791]

I am sure he will pull up such kind of sh**

[@leonbigio5499]

740000 m x 740000m, i think is bigger than the Area of earth. area of 740000^2 is 599 Billion square meters, and the area of earth is 510 billion square meters.

[@leonbigio5499]

Might be wrong so correct me if im wrong

[@phoenixfire6559]

@@leonbigio5499 area of earth is 510 million sq km which is 510 trillion square meters. It's square meters so multiply by factor of 1000 squared, not 1000 to convert km^2 to m^2.

[@TheTonyMcD]

@@leonbigio5499 I haven't done the math, but I can assure you that a square of 740km by 740km is not bigger than the surface of the earth. Edit: I did some basic math, it is slightly smaller than France.

[@MrSarakash]

This is the most awesome "done out of spite" project I have ever seen.

[@VinnyUnion]

Spite can sometimes birth great achievements

[@GraveUypo]

i think elon musk buying out twitter is pretty hard to beat, but this is cool too.

[@VinnyUnion]

@@GraveUypo i think your mom eating my dad out is quite a fantastic thing forus two step-siblings-in-law

[@furrieoussheadquarter1359]

@@GraveUypo Mmm... I think I will create content out of spite so I can be as successful as him. I'LL TARGET IDIOTS ON TWITTER AS MY SPITE GENERATOR!!!

[@ianunderwood1678]

You should check out the story of Jim Butcher's The Codex Alera series. Dude wrote a 6 novel fantasy series to prove a point to a guy on a forum.

[@oliver_twistor]

The fact that Shane felt the need to issue this challenge shows how fragile his ego is and how little of a product he has. If he really had revolutionary tech, he wouldn't care one bit about what Callum says. All Shane had to do to prove everyone wrong is to deliver the mind-blowing product he claims to be working on.

[@6581punk]

The leader of a real startup would be too busy working on changing the world to make a video about youtubers.

[@Nodeelite]

Maybe what your seeing is a call to devs to stand up for the player....and a push to create.

[@highlycriminal3874]

I wonder how possible it is that Shane's dev's are scamming him and feeding him with all this bs about how awesome their work is.. And they set him up for failure. That would make this story so much funnier.

[@superuser8075]

The best part is that it wasn't even just an "open challenge", it was posed to one person who owned it

[@highlycriminal3874]

@@Nodeelite You think Shane calling out a small youtube is devs standing up for the player? What? A push to create? Who Shane? The one who stands the most to profit off the players? Is standing up for the players when he has charged those players for every single step of the way?

[@travellingslim]

Aside from Callum completing the challenge within the 7 day timeframe, it should worry any E2 "player/investor" that all the work E2 has shown so far, has been completed by one guy in a week of his spare time. Even if Callum had only gotten 1 or 2 bullet points done, or anything close, E2 folks should be wondering what those 60+ developers Shane is "proud of" have been up to the past year.

[@michealvincent731]

You hit the nail on the head here, Callum deserves 60 salaries

[@rot_studios]

That's going to bite them in the ass big time haha.

[@WolfgangDoW]

And while he's working on Nightmare World too Dude's bitchslapping scams with both hands XD

[@SquidmanMalachar]

Earth 2 'players' are too focused on trying to con new people into buying their jpgs, or are completely lost to reason.

[@dalepalm1138]

It's almost like it's a scam or something...

[@_Just_John]

Shane before being called out: "This is state of the art proprietary technology which took a lot of effort to develop." Shane after being called out: "The thing we showed in the video? It was thrown together in 6-8 weeks."

[@bararobberbaron859]

Also, a team of 60 threw it together in 8 weeks and that's supposed to make it better? Jeez.

[@ghostofdre]

@@bararobberbaron859 so 60 Devs multiplied by 8 weeks is... Well nobody knows what that number is.

[@MrClawrax]

He's challenging you, a single dev, to do something in 7 days, that a team of like 60 devs with many millions of dollars has done in 2 years. And yet you beat him. Even though he changed the criteria multiple times DURING the challenge. You still beat the challenge and yet he wont pay out. This is really not a great look on his "company"..

[@muslymier]

Just making the challenge alone didn't look good. It proves he's insecure about his product, which is never a good sign.

[@Azsunes]

If he pays out it shows he agrees that what they have done is pathetic. Finding reasons to not pay out allows his followers to give him more money.

[@Scaevola9449]

Should've gotten it in writing and sued him into bakrupcy.

[@gian.4388]

To do something that a team of 60 devs with millions of dollars still HASN'T* done in 2 years lmao

[@jweezy9994]

Should have known he wouldn’t pay, because that would mean callum is right.

[@Kiytan]

Even if the claim of using 10 devs to help was true...10 rando developers making something this similar in 7 days doesn't exactly speak wonders for your supposedly revolutionary super fancy high tech product.

[@SnivyTries]

That was supposedly made with six times the workforce

[@joevile240]

@@SnivyTries and millions of dollars.

[@sionbarzad5371]

@@joevile240 oh yeah and at least a year or 2

[@ninja_tank25]

As a fledgling developer (trying to learn how to transfer from web apps to game development) this made my jaw drop. How disingenuous the challenge is, how quickly and simply you broke things down, this was a treat.

[@TailAbNormal]

Shane: "This at best mediocre developer." Callum: "So you've chosen death."

[@flashbackfrank8781]

Shane is like an old fart who just now discovered email and thinks he's God because of how "Quickly he can transmission data worldwide".

[@atraxian5881]

Aww, Josh as a narrator is such a treat :) Then putting your work for sale is a brutality ending on a double flawless victory.

[@LordZordid]

"Potentially for sale". But very likely as Shane will never pay.

[@doryfishie2]

@@LordZordid What he said at the end was that if Shane doesn't pay up, he would put it up for sale to any other metaverses except Earth 2, for 10k.

[@LordZordid]

@@doryfishie2 Exactly. That is not the same as the OP states that he "is" putting it for sale. He is only putting it on sale as long as Shane doesn't cough up.

[@atraxian5881]

@@LordZordid fair point, I should have added "if Shane doesn't cough up the money" but didn't want to be too wordy.

[@LordZordid]

@@atraxian5881 Makes sense people don't like long sentences. I just thought it fair to point out in relation to Callum wanting everything to be by the book and how carefully he chose his words.

[@dashcamandy2242]

Shane: "We can do X, Y, Z, and A, B, and C too!" Callum: "Sweet! Show me!" Shane: "No, YOU."

[@Sayonarin]

this is absolute gold. Callum & Josh are a national treasure of a duo.

[@mr.personalspace7831]

I imagine he might disqualify you for having someone else do the narration for the Earth 3 “demo reel” because he’d count that as “outside help”.

[@postagestamp8365]

If anything it would take more effort to get someone else to do a narration than doing it yourself

[@gunchapred8933]

He did, and for other things too

[@zafool4997]

Shane was never gonna pay up anyway. To do so, he’d have to admit many things that would screw over Earth 2.

[@RisenOswald]

@@gunchapred8933 proof?

[@gunchapred8933]

@@RisenOswald It's in KiraTV's video on the matter

[@RadicalBuddha]

When your CEO has time to make "challenge" videos to individual KZbinrs instead of simply proving them "wrong" by showing off your capabilities. aka: Show me your company is mismanaged without telling me your company is mismanaged. Well done on the challenge Callum. Excellent finish with offering to sell the work to any other metaverse, haha, solid gold.

[@Knotaro_bot]

exactly

[@CrashKaiju]

Saying it is mismanaged is extremely charitable.

[@HazZzur]

This. If you are a small startup struggling with a big project and have to satisfy investors and backers, getting personally involved with youtube drama as the CEO should be at the fking BOTTOM of your priority list. Either ignore it or hire a community manager. But spending load of your personal time AS THE CEO on this tells me you either have nothing better to do (aka you are a scammer) or your ego is more important to you than the actual work you should be delivering.

[@bobthespam]

i dont think its mismanaged, its managed exactly as it is intended, no development at all and its all just a PR stunt to get people hyped for a cashgrab

[@rand5106]

Ending this by offering to sell Earth 3 for ten grand is so funny. Genius move.

[@Big-Timbo]

feel like the E2 guy is petty enough to try sueing tho

[@silvervelvet8893]

@@Big-Timbo Would that even work? Shane publically went out to ask Callum to make this, I somehow doubt you can do that and then later sue that person for having made the product you asked them to create... Especially if Shane refuses to pay.

[@Big-Timbo]

@@silvervelvet8893 oh he would lose without doubt, but he could still do it just to be an asshole. None if it was contractually obliged so to sell that named as E3 is still technically copyright infringement to some degree

[@TheShadowHatter]

Would have rather he gave it away for free. I could imagine Shane's face if this tech was given to others that made a better Earth 2 with more time, and then he would most likely lose investors after being shown that Earth 2 is inferior to whatever replacement is created. I get it though you got a 10k challenge so you might as well try to get it via this alternative route. Just my 2 cents is all.

[@fernandomartin9190]

@@TheShadowHatter Shane is a con man, he doesnt want nor care about making a real game, so Callum giving away the project wouldnt hurt him the slightest unfortunately.

[@RabbitsGoDojyaaan]

Does it look pretty? No. Does it fit the 7 targets? Yes. This was definitely your win, you deserve the $10k, end of story.

[@SEOdev]

At uni my house mate would regularly go above and beyond the spec list for an assignment making sure it all looked amazing and did exciting things but often would forget the basics listed on the spec sheet. I lost count of how many times my barebones projects that hit every requirement would score higher than his that was visually more impressive and exciting purely because he did not stick to the brief. Looks aren't everything in life. If a product cant do what you need / want it to what good is it.

[@NilesBlackX]

I actually learned the opposite lesson doing freelance lol I would make technically impressive things and bids, and I'd use them in my portfolio etc. The result was, I'd get difficult, appropriately paid work from tech-savvy clients. Then I had that realization, and I started making flashy-but-garbage pitches, demos, and portfolio pieces, and *wham* all of a sudden I'm up to my ears in unsavvy clients spending too much for what amounts to a new coat of paint. Some examples; * Take codebase, remake UI to be flashy, have it hog resources and hide low performance with pre-rendered animations. Voila, everyone loves it. Versus; * Take codebase, refactor everything under the hood so it works better, has graceful error detection, has vastly better security, but don't touch the UI. Ta-da, now the execs/client are all claiming you didn't do anything because "it looks the same". Honestly, gamers as customers are often the same way, flashy demos hide crappy tech, and no one cares about good tech unless it's flashy. Those projects don't get funded on Kickstarter/Steam/whatever, the ones that are all flash and no substance raise millions on the daily. So there's a clear incentive to write good code _only for yourself,_ because no one else is going to care or notice apparently.

[@andrewoconnell90]

I love the fact that part of the challenge was do it by 774000m x 774000m and your just like screw it i 'll do the planet. Had me laughing so much.

[@feyre38]

I don't often leave comments on videos but this man deserves every piece of recognition and support I can give... Callum, you handled this with dignity and professionalism all while wrecking Shane's challenge. One would think that the man destined to create the Metaverse would have better things to do than releasing flaming rants and shadow cabals and issuing insipid challenges to KZbinrs like a toddler throwing a tantrum but sadly this is where we are... And you, Callum, still spoke professionally, logically and delivered on the challenge, despite the fact that you were given an unrealistic timeline. Funny that E2 has been out for ages now and all they've provided is holobuildings, ether and ways to take people's money but you managed to deliver on his challenge and then some. You have all my respect and my support and the E2 copium addicts can go suck it.

[@Kevin-vl9xx]

Did they provide holobuildings? I thought it was something that was part of the MapBox offering? Never used MapBox, but remember hearing that when E2 first announced holobuildings. I think all E2 did was upgrade their account/license with MapBox, which would have probably taken them a couple of seconds/minutes.

[@earthb67]

@@Kevin-vl9xx They have a buggy. It even leaves tracks on the terrain... :P

[@klutterkicker]

Shane 30 minutes after issuing the challenge: "Shit he might win this thing."

[@WannaComment2]

He probably spend those 30 minutes calculating how much time he actually spend developing Earth 2 since it's conception and came up with way less than a week. Panic Time!

[@emikochan13]

he never gives out prizes anyway, complete scammer on every level XD

[@hook86]

@@WannaComment2 lmfao facts

[@kneekoo]

8:59 This reminded me of... Question: How would you write 'I changed a light bulb' on your resume? Answer: Single-handedly managed the successful upgrade and deployment of new environmental illumination system with zero cost overruns and zero safety incidents.

[@Skarry]

Your description is better than what was going through my head. Supposedly PT Barnum couldn't move people out of his oddity exhibit quickly enough for more people to come in and shouted, "Come experience the world's greatest egress! Right through here!"

[@porkch0mp538]

He's got it backwards. The sign of intelligence is explaining something complex simply. He explains simple things in a convoluted manner to signal his intelligence. What a diabolical genius

[@A_Stereotypical_Heretic]

Don't forget "all while utilizing a proprietary method independently"

[@IHomie1]

Imagine if Shane got these big words from his own devs, who were just trying to impress him and play up the simple work they've done XD

[@MAXIMILLIONtheGREAT]

That's legit what I think.

[@omadselc]

The second hand embarrassment I would feel if my boss walked up to someone and said "... It's just loading. You've described what loading is."

[@rubikmonat6589]

It certainly seems to be the case. Shane is probably being fleeced by a shady dev.

[@satoshiwasareptiloid3777]

@@rubikmonat6589 Doesn't even have to be shady tbh., just Shane having no clue how any of it works and the actual devs not being allowed anywhere near the marketing.

[@lorien0]

Was thinking the same

[@shrippie-4214]

"An idiot admires complexity a genius admires simplicity " -Terry A. Davis

[@notsam9528]

After completing their challenge you should challenge them to prove they actually are using the tech they claim to be using.

[@israelbenitezjimenez533]

counterchallenge

[@learntooilpaint]

This is the win. Callum doesn’t need to do it. If he does even 25% he can ask them to show earth 2 doing that 25%. We know earth 2 can’t. Callum wins by just turning up to a gun fight with a knife. Shane doesn’t even know where the fight is.

[@IndieGamerMonkey]

Please for the LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD do this. YES.

[@Whackjob]

He did that in the video at the end...

[@notsam9528]

@@Whackjob I know, I posted the comment when it was still scheduled.

[@bitblitz]

You've handled this so professionally and responsibly. Whatever happens with Earth 2, I'm pretty sure your stock as a trusted KZbinr will skyrocket.

[@GameDevNerd]

Hey Callum, I'm a professional game developer and software engineer. After watching your video, I feel like you easily met the requirements of this very weird challenge you were given and it's actually kind of impressive that you pulled it off in 7 days, all by yourself. I applaud your effort and for sticking yourself out there and taking the risk of failure but still managing to succeed. I think, at this point, Shane owes you $10K ... and he also should have just offered you a job with a competitive salary and benefits because they clearly need your help. Nice bombshell at the end, threatening to sell your project and source code for $10K ... I'm so eager to hear their response now, lol. I chuckled a bit when he disparagingly referred to you as "some mediocre programmer" when you're clearly not mediocre and could handle an industry job ... and they have hired people like that kid Tanner who had a long history of making fake businesses and early access products and basically scamming his Steam customers, lol 😆 As you pointed out, Shane seems to like using technical jargon (which he doesn't even truly understand himself) to attempt to wow and dazzle people with no technical background ... I, too, found it kind of funny how he used a whole convoluted sentence about CPU/GPU workloads, multithreading, etc to describe what basically all engines and games can already do: load content from disk in the background and draw 3D stuff. I also couldn't help but laugh at how he changed the word for the "metallic" slider in Unity/Unreal default terrain materials -- great point you made there. It honestly seems like they've done next to nothing in terms of game development and he's really trying to creatively inflate it to sound like something significant has been done with all of this money they've collected. He wants people to think they've been developing a bunch of "proprietary" tech when, in fact, they haven't really done anything of the sort ... they just came up with what seemed like an ingenious and devilishly simple monetization strategy, breaking up Google Maps into tradeable grid cells, that could be sold to hopeful gamers with some huge promises behind it ... a promise which is, honestly, well beyond current technological limitations (both in hardware and software terms) and many light-years out of the grasp of this little startup of questionable integrity which this guy Shane is in charge of ... He clearly has no idea what he's doing, to be quite frank, and it really shows ... trying to use fancy tech jargon to make mundane and ordinary things seem exciting and impressive is a classic sign of ineptitude combined with a tremendous ego. People have done this sort of thing before whilst posing as doctors and scientists, and the community of real professionals usually strikes back at them and calls them out on their BS ... but, as you can see just from browsing the internet, there are still plenty people willing to listen to pseudo-science and awful medical advice coming from self-proclaimed "gurus". Conspiracy theory communities are a great example, and this also goes on in investment and finance and any other field where there's something technical and hard to understand and a lot to gain by pretending to understand it and _selling_ regular people a big dream: whether that's some "10 step program to ", a superstitious or irrational belief, some kind of investment strategy that's "guaranteed to double your money" or even a fake/imaginary product like a video game. It's just good ol' snake oil in 2022 fashion ... I work full-time as a game developer, but I also dabble in blockchain engineering. I've been into cryptocurrency since circa 2012, when it was still obscure "magic internet money" and I've basically seen it all over the years ... I'm really amused at E2's claims that they're going to integrate their project into the blockchain, and can't wait to see how they try to accomplish that ... 😄

[@agnidas5816]

You should start a web chat for coders. There isn't a good one out there. Be very strict with membership or you will be left with shitstains and the chat will die.

[@GameDevNerd]

@@agnidas5816 there are some good Discords and forums for programmers, so what kind of chat do you mean and how would it be different? Stackoverflow is pretty great, but it's very strict and formal and doesn't let you just have conversations, it's very "academic" ... a great thing when searching for answers to tough questions, but not when you need to talk about stuff and enhance your understanding. I've been thinking about creating some content to teach and building some kind of community, so I'm legitimately interested in your idea. Please elaborate if you have time ... 🙂

[@Mekhami]

@@agnidas5816 it's called IRC and it's been here for decades

[@jdsd744]

Aaron's a Goat.

[@GameDevNerd]

@@jdsd744 you caught me 🐐

[@atraxian5881]

Shane: "I challenge you!" Callum: *wins the challenge* Shane: "... Oh... Wanna work with us? I can pay in virtual land tiles... you can have Australia, may be?"

[@jonathanj8303]

Either that, or they accuse Callum of hacking their servers.

[@spottyhead]

@@jonathanj8303 Shame Issac taking the DarksydePhil approach...."It was fraud...they took stuff but also none of the stuff they took was real" lol

[@tomkarpati7743]

@@jonathanj8303 Who would hack that dumpsterfire honestly?

[@skuggsja6020]

I honestly believe he'll do this as he approached Upper Echelon about it I do believe. Not working for them as a developer but advertising for them or something if I remember correctly.

[@spottyhead]

@@skuggsja6020 It was Arya wanting to keep some internet drama beef going between the two to keep video engagement high I think. Not saying that Arya isn't an arm of Earth 2 as he sure shills for it enough but I don't think Shane had directly contacted UE after he started his vid series

[@lrmcatspaw1]

I dont expect Shane to pay even if it was 1 dollar. Admitting he is wrong is much worse than paying the money.

[@dock3000]

I actually expect Shane to try and bring him on the dev team. That's how he'll *pay* Callum and he'll think it'll give him one less critic to worry about. Doubtful Callum accepts if so. But I definitely think Shane will try.

[@lrmcatspaw1]

@The Reeebus L.C.U Not that, the people who support Earth 2 because they have a financial incentive have a very specific narrative to follow. If Shane was to say that Callum is right, people in Earth 2 would have to admit that Shane could be wrong about other stuff as well. The reason there is a cult like mentality in Earth 2 is simple: fake it till you make it (meaning sell it to a greater fool for profit). You cant fake it if you admit you are wrong.

[@richardgries4098]

@@lrmcatspaw1 I highly doubt he is going to admit to anything, he is going to use word and mental gymnastics like it's the fkin olympics to justify why cal didn't do what he asked for... I think cal just wasted his time on this but still props to him for taking the challenge in the first place.

[@visceralkonquest]

@@richardgries4098 Exactly Lol

[@sinisterhistory8801]

He will just move the goal post or make excuses.

[@DraknalHitdan]

Shane to his team: What am I paying you people for?! Callum built this solo in 7 days! In a cave! With a box of scraps!

[@WalkerRileyMC]

A box of Josh!

[@tomd1209]

Watching this unfold was like seeing a no-touch martial artist challenge an mma fighter, only to get absolutely pummelled in front of their fans. If Shane wasn't actively scamming people, I might actually feel a little bad.

[@mitchhaelann9215]

It's more like watching an MMA fighter challenge a hell's angel to a street fight, only to get his arms broken before getting stabbed twice.

[@rift1067]

Yo that analogy is on fucking point. Kudos to you, sir.

[@BiggSplid]

I rly anticipate the full-denial-damage-control-mode from Shane after this. This will be epic

[@thederpydeed1310]

You're a fortune teller. omg the implosion of their discord was AMAZING

[@notatrollll]

more like annoying. They are going to throw 1000 different excuses and belittle callum after everything he did, instead of proving their own game works

[@fluffyjello]

@@thederpydeed1310 what happened there? is Shane on damage control or are the members like on strike?

[@HarverTheSlayer]

@@thederpydeed1310 Don't leave us hanging, mate, we need more details.

[@chaotixthefox]

I need the deets.

[@feron450]

Dear Shane, “If you can’t explain it simply. You don’t understand it well enough. “ - Albert Einstein. People like Shane that decide to use “ big words “ to explain things to hide their lack of knowledge really annoy me to no end.

[@dragoneyr1632]

It's more like, if you don't know how to explain it to a child, you don't understand it well enough yourself. But I digress, the message has been put through. Heck, even I contradict my own statement because it's something different from what I just wrote, I just remember the child's part XD

[@SabiaSparrow]

That doesn't really apply here, as the aim is to be obscure, so laypeople don't understand how unimpressive it is

[@anonony9081]

People like this always move the goalposts. You'll never convince him you won

[@dakotashroom5401]

The facts speak for themselves. A single man did more work in a week than 60 people did in years with more money.

[@gravidust.2]

@M I'm making this a requirement when I deal with people from now on

[@misttea6442]

As someone who is currently studying 3D programming with DX11, this whole situation is hilarious to me. Still amazing to finish the challenge and make the video in just 7 days.

[@mcvgs1780]

Oh god this is so good. Believe me people, there are so many people like Shane in the "Metaverse" game. Cheers to Callum for calling them out. He even admitted that you were better than he initially expected lol.

[@MercuryAlphaInc]

I fucking love the smirk you try to suppress when you say they were trying to set you up to fail, it's like "You tried, Shane, you tried." Also, of course Josh is the voice of the Earth 3 trailer, it's just perfect.

[@Karami42]

>accepts stupid over the top challenge >does it >threatens to ruin the guy financially by giving something equal or better than his boast to anyone willing to pay for it bruh calm down man, hes gotta be alive to respond XD

[@bakarenibsheut12]

@M That's a very poetic way to express your bloodlust. I'd be happy to see Shane discredited and losing any trust his investors have in him and any of his future projects.

[@giannipiccioni8411]

@M "the world gains the beauty of their absence", jesus, this is wonderful

[@isssma0]

Now, they know what to do to implement these on Earth 2. They should be thanking you a lot.

[@tomkarpati7743]

As if they could make it. Come now they would need a third brain cell to get that far.

[@moistdlux3863]

Honestly, if you nail 85% of this, the question becomes “what the hell have they been doing.” Excellent video, can’t wait to see how this all plays out.

[@skullsaintdead]

(Stealing ignorant, gullible & self-interested people's money). (Plus lying to yourself & your customers that its not a scam).

[@mechanicalfluff]

E2 is gonna be an unfinished dump and run job. It was doomed from the start. Blowing money on a big team and a swanky city office is the only flag you need to see that it's going to fail. Being so financially inept and getting the chance to pretend to be a ceo is too much for Shane. It's going to crumble down around him.

[@no-trick-pony]

As a CG Master's student that gave me a good laugh.. His challenge was absolutely nonsensical to begin with and you made the best out of it. Think you should have shown a bit more of the project as B roll, but that was utterly crushing lol

[@Kolljak]

Shane : You cant just create earth in the virtual space in 7 days. Callum : Hold my beer.

[@cobrardh]

😂😂

[@Jbrooo850]

But Callum ‘s one is very shitty compare to e2... what’s this? to be honest...pretty disappointed Callum

[@SolidFOXCF]

@@Jbrooo850 he isn't a graf designer, but at the end of the day every box match to what shane initially asked. Rip E2 60 devs ... unless 59 of those 60 are Graf designers lmao

[@Jbrooo850]

He did like 10% of the requirements and he even edited the requirements at the start of the video to not include really geological locations LMFAO. He literally didn’t prove anything the speed, the REAL LOCATION, the size NOTHING!! All the things that make Earth 2 special he didn’t deliver even though he claimed it’s basic shit. And you can tell by the way his acting and the bags under his eyes

[@Jbrooo850]

And you can literally see the world glitching even though it’s probably the size of a marbel compared to earth 2

[@georgethesometimesknowledg2685]

Creating a world in seven days. I think you qualify as coding god at this point.

[@why_i_game]

Let there be light!

[@MarjaMariachi]

Fortunately for Mr CEO, moving goalposts in a contest and disqualifying people while shitting on their accomplishments has never worked out bad for a company! ::cough Artesian Builds cough::

[@splashydiamond]

At first I was like why is everyone bullying the poor dev, he is making something for the people to enjoy and immerse themselves in....just to realise he's making another "metaverse" which is not only NOT related to games but also the destruction, a virus in this medium I love so much. Well deserved. Keep up the good work Callum.

[@Michael-dj6pd]

Games should be made from the heart not the wallet. People made a quick buck fast and now every teenager and their mother is trying to follow the train.

[@Durakson]

Came here from Josh Strife Hayes and: Wow. Just wow! We all know Shane Isaac will never have the character to admit it or even pay you the money, but this is really impressive. You got up to the challenge even if it was rigged from the start and he was moving the goal posts every now and then. And delivered. Suscribed to your channel.

[@falsettos507]

Callum decimating Shane aside, it really strikes me as unprofessional how Shane had to make this whooole video challenging Callum. What reputable business does that

[@shafta2010]

Shane and reputable don't fit into the same earth

[@professorfukyu744]

@@shafta2010 thats why hes making a new one!

[@NikoMoraKamu]

scamers

[@Mordenperson]

Hey if he could back his talk and actually put a reasonable challenge and not something that doesn't match what he showed himself, it would of been cool, but the whole thing looks like some sort of weak media ploy to try and get more people looking at his game.

[@ninja_tank25]

You answered your own question. No REPUTABLE business would.

[@chrisxd146]

The whole point of engines like Unreal and Unity is to streamline developing, there's no shame in admitting to using their functionalities that they were designed for. It seems bizarre to me that a development studio would spend time developing tools that already exist when they don't serve the primary function of the game (or in Earth 2's case, just overlaying a tile grid for what essentially is a database). The STEM community also has a large database of research papers exploring and documenting various mathematical models that are meant to accurately model the real world. Flow simulations, erosion patterns, cloud coverage/density, light refraction, cave generation, etc., they all have a range of models ranging from simplistic to complex. If the Earth 2 devs really wanted to impress with their "technology" they could very easily incorporate some of these models and have actual substance.

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

Callum failed because he didn't design and fabricate a custom chip to do the math on.

[@guysome3263]

Isn't Earth 2 based on unity as well?

[@flightlessbird2281]

@@guysome3263 Im pretty sure earth2 is just a website using a purchased mapbox license.

[@allxtend4005]

Earth 2 Scamer (devs) will take this video and show it as ther own :D

[@krimsonsun10]

perfect example of "Not invented here syndrome"

[@ms.laceysaeke9721]

I love how you got Josh Strife Hayes to do narration while you did the coding. Pure gold

[@MidnightSt]

OH MY GOD STRIFE HAYES VOICeOVER! That's the most glorious touch of this whole thing. Great choice, his snark is at the levels which... hugely surpass yours. Elegant, pleasant, snarky, groundpounding. Perfection.

[@sirbrundle307]

Uhm did i just witness a public execution on youtube?

[@afqwa423]

I love that it's somehow an own that you have ten developers ready to jump on a project within 24 hours. That's more, not less, impressive.

[@Valvad0ss]

Damn someone hire this programmer. This is an outstanding addition to any professional portfolio. You more than satisfied the challenge in my eyes easily. Give Callum more than whatever he makes now.

[@embreis2257]

dont make someone snatch up Callum! we need him to go on calling out those guys and their products.

[@mitchhaelann9215]

If I win the lotto tonight, I'm going to set aside 50 grand a year just to give to Callum, so he can do whatever he wants with his time.

[@TheDerpyDeed]

Seeing as how NightmareWorld currently runs on a budget of $0.... I'd assume Callum isn't making a lot of money XD

[@agnidas5816]

developing for a game you don't want to play every day is absolute torture. having to listen to commands when you have 10 better ideas is also torture. Don't make his life worse. He already has more than enough money to do all the tech things.

[@stevencolson9793]

E2: What just happened? Dreamworld: First time, eh?

[@bigfunsoftware368]

I think you did an amazing job. I built MyWorld3D in about 2 months, and it has a long way to go, but it already runs in the browser, is free. The tech available to us now is crazy, but no one cares. People just want to express themselves and have fun, what color algorithm is used doesn't matter.

[@HanCurunyr]

Getting Josh to do the Earth 3 voiceover was hilarious, amazing job, Callum

[@embreis2257]

smart choice. Josh can speak like an announcer, narrator. Callum has other talents. love them both

[@MissingP_rt]

I love how you can hear Josh grinning when doing the voiceover

[@nidodson]

I haven't made a game in 15 years, and the initial requirements seemed so easy that I am confident I could do it in 3 days, using technology from 2008. Kudos on calling out a fraud.

[@_Just_John]

Shane: Callum failed, because I said he has to make a square map but he made the whole Earth.

[@User0000000000000004]

Glad someone else noticed this, too.

[@garypatterson2857]

When a company reacts to a KZbinr, they've _already_ lost. There is no win for Earth-2 here. If Callum meets the conditions of the challenge and E2 pays up, they've lost horribly and admitted there's no substance to their entire company. If they don't pay up, they've done the exact same thing but also admitted they're fundamentally untrustworthy (yes, but this would be a tacit admission, whereas at the moment we all just suspect it). If Callum doesn't meet the conditions then E2 can claim a victory but they've been reduced to reacting to random criticism and that's a pretty hollow victory. Callum would take a bit of a reputational hit, but he can easily recover while E2 can't. If Callum even gets a little credit, E2 is diminished by a talented solo dev singlehandedly doing part of what E2's "rock star" dev team managed to theorise, research and "pioneer." E2 lost by _issuing_ a challenge. There's no path to victory for them now. ... and from what I've seen in Callum's videos, plus the conversations in Tangent Tavern and other places, I've got full confidence that Callum knows what he's talking about and can live up to his claims, and then some. Reproducing E2 some months ago purely in _Discord_ shows Callum has the chops for this. I have to accept I could well be wrong, but I don't think I am. Either way, I'm looking forward much more to the story about the maker's centre that Callum is creating. That would be a real thing that has impacts and can improve so many lives. This E2 thing is just frippery with no value beyond the schadenfreude of seeing gullible rich people losing money to obvious scams.

[@ScoutRangerGTM]

I agree it was a no win situation and It was a bad contest. Earth 2's biggest mistake was that scamtubers and traditional gamers learned about the world of decentralized gaming, its business practices (funding before the product, offering ownership of digital assets to players, etc) through Earth 2. Admittedly there is a lot of scams in this area. But at the end of the day a metaverse in which players can own their digital assets, their digital land, etc and sell it to other players isin't some pipe dream it's the future. We already see it through sandbox, DCL, many other up and coming projects such as treeverse, openera, etc. They stated their end goal(We're building ready player one) and sold tiles on a map and that was all anybody needed to declare scam. I get it. But your definitions keep changing. Scam, rug pull, shitty product, they'll never deliver what they say. How about for once you give credit they are still making a product and aren't even 2 years in development? How would super mature Callum handle if some skinny, malnourished, individual who refers to himself as big dog attacked his game for months act? Would he ignore criticism. LOL, no he wouldn't.

[@dazalius]

​@@ScoutRangerGTM You do know Earth 2 is not blockchain right? They are a centralized SQL database. There is absolutely nothing decentralized about it. This is the first comment ive seen from Gary Patterson, so i cant say wether or not their definitions have changed. However, Rugpulls, are a Scam, Shitty products are a scam, if they never deliver what they say its a scam. All of those things are scams, so there is no actual changing deffinition. Pluss, the people who talk about rugpulls are people from the earth 2 community. Nobody here thinks E2 is going to rug pull. They simply dont have to. Its much more lucrative for them if they keep up the "Earth 2 is comming, buy more shit" shtick. Im not sure what your point is about Callum? He is a youtuber, youtubers call eachother out. If you dont see the difference between a youtuber and a CEO and how there is a different expectation of behavior and professionalism.

[@idoltohypocrisy4429]

@@ScoutRangerGTM your user name is Ironically hilarious, has anyone ever told you that? Also, I don’t get what skinny and malnourished have to do with anything. What are you a child? You are lost in the sauce if you don’t think there are people out there who aren’t talking crap about Callum’s game that he is actively developing. That just comes with the territory. You may not like this fact but if you decided to show anything to the public eye you are opening your self to criticism. Of course people are always welcome to respond and I don’t think most of us would say E2 had no right to say something but there is no denying that they should be absolutely lambasted for the farce Shane has put on. Nothing about it says professional.

[@learntooilpaint]

They can only claim a victory temporarily if Callum fails. All Callum has to do is turn around ask them to show this tech working. If Shane declines to do so, then E2 takes a massive hit because even the shills can’t pretend if he backs out of that. If he does show it and it’s a mess/buggy/ crap performance E2 loses. Only way Shane wind is if the tech works as shown and defined in the challenge. Hint: it really doesn’t.

[@ScoutRangerGTM]

@@learntooilpaint False you do that before accepting the challenge which is completely reasonable. But after accepting the challenge? Tells most people that you tried and failed. Also would not have taken nearly the full time to respond.

[@ZeCatable]

"You described how LOADING work" - ROFL, thank you for the laugh!

[@MrTerribleLie]

From one dev to another, you, sir, are a legend.

[@1990alone]

I can't believe how quickly you became my favorite KZbinr. Keep going, mate!

[@LordCinn]

as a 3D artist working in the field for the past 10 years, i find all this really really.. funny. Dielectric hahah.. my god. you clearly have won this one imo. well done!

[@dragonrider4253]

Commenting to feed the algorithm. This was an absolute TREAT to watch. You didn't just complete the challenge, you DECIMATED it! (Though I very seriously doubt he's actually going to pay up.)

[@MINIMAN10000]

Good news you successfully fed the algorithm and I ended up here.

[@GodOfPlague]

Hungry Hungry Algorithm Hippos

[@bartomiej5533]

and i came here too!

[@alyssavanderklift9296]

honestly, knowing the slimey sleezeball he's shown himself to be, shane probably won't pay out EVEN IF the entire e2 community were to pressure him so just you offering the challenge project to any other metaverse besides e2 is the most glorious and fitting middlefinger to close on

[@Brand-yk6dw]

Callum is just like 'how many times do we have to teach this lesson old man!!'

[@garmmermibe5397]

"This is your chance to throw egg back on our face, Callum." Bruh, Shane, you threw the egg on your own damn face. Callum just pointed it out.

[@aronoc3599]

God: Created the Earth in 7 days. Shane and the E2 devs: Couldn't create a fake Earth in 7 days. Callum: ??? So looking forward to some more fantastic work from Callum.

[@thederpydeed1310]

On the seventh day Callum rested, for he had created everything Shane asked of him with ease.

[@GioRob]

@@thederpydeed1310 this comment is PURE GOLD.

[@Weiswolfe]

@@thederpydeed1310 bruh xd legit gold here

[@jacobreace5875]

Bro i just started modeling and I’m trying to make my own space game. This just inspired me. Hope I can learn how to do that very soon. *Claps hands proudly*

[@irkalla100]

Not just burn, but immolated! The wait was worth it. Love what you do Callum!

[@Zhone4493]

For some reason I love that Josh Strife Hayes is narrating the demo, such a masterpiece

[@Milliardo__Peacecraft]

Watching Earth 2 is like watching a digital Jonestown, but the only things that die are the supporter's wallets and critical thinking.

[@3sgamestudio]

Callum I hope by the end of the challenge you will challenge shane to prove that they are also meting the 7 requirements they posted? As their presentation doesn't show half of it at work.

[@endlessstrata6988]

Yeah, I'd do that first if I were him. It's quite likely they don't have anything working at all.

[@learntooilpaint]

This is all Callum has to do. Turn up and say “sorry you were right, let’s see earth 2 doing the same”. Shane can’t, he will have to fluff his way through it. Everyone but the E2 community can then realise Shane is a bluffer. Shane put this challenge out without considering what the end game is.

[@darrenthornton2419]

this comment aged like fine wine!

[@bigchungus6827]

@@learntooilpaint Everyone outside the community already realizes Shane's full of shit. Winning or giving up this challenge won't really change anything, since the E2 community will continue blindly following him.

[@learntooilpaint]

@@bigchungus6827 not everyone if they don’t follow the earth 2 criticism, but of course the cryptobros are not giving up

[@Carnyzzle]

imagine challenging a game designer to make a game

[@TheKindKitten]

At least he can go back to focusing on NightmareWorld after this ^.^ x

[@ieuanhunt552]

Game Jams are exactly that. Challenge game developers make a game in a limited time frame

[@sanfransiscon]

Can't wait for the Earth 4 Game Jam

[@Carnyzzle]

@@ieuanhunt552 But that's a normal thing. Shane challenged Callum thinking he's some no name rookie dev lmao

[@jemmrich]

It's funny how we only see Shane in an empty office with no one around, yet he supposedly has a team of devs? Plus, Shane has had what, something like over a year to build his demo, and you blew it away in 7 days. Just goes to show how much of a joke Earth 2 is.

[@WinclarkYT]

I just wish you showed a bit more of the "tech" lol. Would have shut them up in the premiere chat. I think ya won hard, great job

[@gamingxmachina6718]

Here from Josh Strife Hayes just got the info from his recent video today. You exceeded expectations for sure and definitely won. I know Shane Isaac is going to say you did not, but you know even if he doesn't pay, you have shown them what's what. Keep up the good work.

[@runed0s86]

If he doesn't pay, a lawsuit will fix that. Shane issued a bounty, and the bounty was fulfilled.

[@gixG17]

I want to point out that this entire Earth 2 thing wouldn't work with their tech due to one single problem: Heightmaps can't do caverns.

[@BuLLetwhitOutaGun]

We all know when this is all said and done, whatever callum makes whether its significantly better, equal, or even a little less of what the challenge is, the E2 community and shane are gunna down play it and pretend like it didn't happen, I said it before and imma say it again, even with a small team or if callum is doing this completely solo, even making 70 percent of what they have made in a whole year and a half in just a week is simply a death sentence to E2 for anyone with a brain, Put em in their grave callum

[@Quandry1]

Even worse for them. All the fuss they make in denying it is just going to work against them. Because it's going to cause more people to see what Callum has done. It happens a lot with these kinds of things.

[@_bits_and_bytes]

"for anyone with a brain" - And that's what most of the metaverse supporters are missing, sadly.

[@thederpydeed1310]

You should've seen the live chat, they effectively review-bombed it by spamming "fail" despite Callum's project looking better than the 2D mapbox map with holo buildings E2 has, FUD is a hell of a drug

[@OzixiThrill]

@@Quandry1 The Streisand Effect knows no mercy.

[@ethzero]

Callum should then put the entire Earth 3 up for sale as one large "tile" 😉

[@Nodeelite]

Keep whatever you create out of the hands of the corporations give to the people by the people. You are all on the same side. Don't war against each other when there is an enemy threatening to eat every player whole.

[@Aton_Down]

right, ill take a free taco then i guess

[@protiod]

1 tile containing the entirety of earth, listed at $10,000 1 tile containing only Shayne's house, listed for free

[@thederpydeed1310]

One big 10 grand tile

[@TAiiNE]

What I find funny, is several games and MMO's have been doing the sort of thing Earth 2 has been claiming for years now, just on a more reasonable scale. So like.. what are they even doing?

[@nukiradio]

But but but Big numbers!!! Dielectric-ness! 🤣

[@CuppaGi]

Shane: "Oh yeah? If you think you're so smart, why don't you make a better one?" Callum: "Okay." And that, kids, is how Earth 3, the world I met your mother in, was created.

[@Jiloh5]

best comment I have seen in while man!

[@Captain_Hapton]

Man, this was Superman taking on Batman in a fight, but finding out he carries kryptonite and breaking Superman's back over his knee. You're a genius, Callum.

[@okimsad5955]

I never leave comments. I'm honestly just blown away. Cheers for being for the people, the people support you.

[@blairowens8912]

Let's fuckin gooooo! Glad to see you complete this challenge. And that ending was just icing.

[@dakotashroom5401]

He has won. He deserves to be paid. But, now that he has won he can do whatever he wants with his impressive creation. A single person did more than a whole development team who have more money.

[@lootmaster1337]

damn thats pretty impressive for 7 days alone. you also got a nice voice actor. can't wait for the release of earth 3 in a month

[@Fafmagic]

F**king Class response. But you’re right about how he, and his followers will interpret it. You rose above and bested him. Good call on the third party. GBG is perfect. Well done Callum

[@daxtronus]

I came here from SidAlpha’s tweet. After watching the vid for just a few minutes, I subscribed. The debacle of E2 just gets worse as time goes on, and it’s thanks to people like you who help show just how bad things are and how off the claims of the developers are in comparison to the reality of the progress. I honestly can’t wait to see the response, if one comes at all, just because what you’ve achieved is nothing short of awesome and you genuinely deserve a huge amount of recognition for it. And hey, if another challenge is issued, i reckon you’d knock that out of the park as well!

[@Queen_Cnidarian]

This is like that time MasterLock “challenged” the lockpickinglawyer to pick a lock they sent to him.

[@robotspartan9100]

That dead pan "woof" at the start set the stage for this perfectly.... Also, Josh narating was a great idea

[@dzigawalker2368]

Brilliant - This is what reality TV should be. You and Josh deserve medals. In only real investigative journalists dealing with actual politics were as good as you

[@LoPhatKao]

back when i first heard of this 'game', i wondered if they realized that 'Earth 2' was a tv show in the 90s and probably trademarked by NBC

[@SOFFtv]

"Your world isn’t integrated with the E2 proprietry tech solution for Tiles, that we have bought from MapBox, and where are all the gems?! Fail, We definately proved how inferior your earth is to ours now!" - Shane, Ceo of E2 Calling it now boiis.

[@Lenariet]

"And where is the Essence, the Ether, the Mentars? You gotta have ways to charge people for their money! You can't have a metaverse without any of these!!1!1!!11oneoneeleven"

[@ninetailedfox579121]

I wouldn't be surprised if he misspelled "definitely" like that as well.

[@Discoveryman29]

I don't think callum need to make it better, even if he make a version which is only 80% of the scam its still a win for 1man to create this in 7 days

[@israelbenitezjimenez533]

even if its not 100% the same as E2 claimed, if it looks like E2 video it will prove eventually what Callum said: They just want us to see what they decide