EarthBound VS. Mother 3 - Fake Sequelitis

[@mathphysicsnerd]

"One big difference, I'm not that funny." LIES

[@TheHumbleGamer2014]

I'm genuinely impressed with how much you've improved since your first fake sequalitis Tim, these videos are always pure gold. Keep it up my man 👍

[@salsamonkey65]

"Do you prefer reading comics, or playing games?" "What?" "You're busy?" That line hurts...

[@ultrasonic67]

And with this, you have tied Arin for sequelitis episodes, and actually surpassed him in terms of minutes in the series. This is no longer "fake." Anything further beyond is just the series now.

[@maccaebus]

These are honestly better than the "real" Sequelitis videos. Also, I feel you on the sunny weather thing. After 14 years living in Hawaii, I'm sick of hot days. Overcast, cool weather is where it's at.

[@Glory2Snowstar]

Ooh, Hawaii! That's really cool! Well, not temperature-wise. Have you seen any coconut crabs?

[@Ruzkiel]

I don't know if I've ever related to NCS as hard as his extended appreciation for a good cloudy and rainy day. That whole weather bit got a good laugh from me.

[@ThePoltergust5000]

Awesome end result! Of course I knew like 80% of it in advance because I drew the art but you delivered it really well! I also LOVE what you did with the Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass art (i kept rewinding to watch that part over and over, it was so satisfying to watch the clip show with the art all sliding in) ;D About the only meaningful bit of discussion my brain can muster ATM is that IDK if I agree with you about the photographs. Then again I'm like the fuckin' dad from Calvin and Hobbes when it comes to "misery builds character" (at least in retrospect), but some of my most nostalgic and fond memories are from times when I was in places or doing things I _really_ didn't want to be doing, but then I found ways to pass the time that then became inexorably linked _to_ those memories. Like pacing back and forth at a church community service trip in Flin Flon thinking about Earthbound hacks and my stories and enjoying the cold summer air. You might think it's hampered by the silent protagonists making it impossible to know if they DID have any way of making things less miserable, but I think that's exactly the kind of player-projection that works best with video games, is imagining what the characters were doing or saying when nothing important to the plot was going on. Y'know, like... what did Terra, Locke and Edgar talk about on the way up the mountain to find Sabin? Maybe they talked about the weather. Maybe Edgar shared some stories from his childhood that the mountain reminded him of. Maybe they sang a song, or shared riddles, or maybe they played a game. "What happened when they got to Mt. Ordeals besides more JUMPING and SHOOTING", y'know?

[@sunnysurfer101MA]

Race? :P

[@NintendoCapriSun]

Glad to hear you dug the JATPM etc part! I was worried that the Whisper Weaver kinda came and went too fast, and there were also a couple that I think I ended up not using at all, but I'm keeping them all around for next time. The photograph debate is definitely one of the points I knew was subjective going into it, and if anything, I think I actually disagree with myself on what constitutes a fond memory, or more to the point, what constitutes an IMPORTANT memory. A lot of my most important memories were during some pretty bad times too (like the "I am clenching my FISTS HERE" incident). I could probably make an entire nother half hour long video just debating against myself on this issue, 'cause I see so much stuff on Twitter from people that makes it look like their life is just one non-stop pleasure cruise, yet at the same time, you see posts of cute animals or chibi characters curled up in bed saying things like "Can I just be a burrito all day?" and I can never figure out which one is the real "them". I guess maybe it's a little bit of both. But far be it for me to say that only the happy stuff should be remembered. I already wish now that I could change that! DAMN YOUUUUUUUU no but seriously thank you. I'm glad we've been able to agree to disagree and/or debate on so many things and yet still be friends. I've seen too many friendships go south over such petty things.

[@ThePoltergust5000]

@@sunnysurfer101MA Oh dang that's right. I think we're gonna record that this coming Sunday? I should make a list of talking points from this video for then. Y'know, THAT'S IT FOR THAT SHEET.

[@johnathonturner2279]

@@NintendoCapriSun So, will we be getting a Jimbo video? :)

[@Porkey_Minch]

@ThePoltergust5000 Were you the one who drew the really cute Picky & Paula art at 12:41 or was that someone else? Because I'd love to know who made it.

[@WhoIsSirChasm]

I think, in terms of how EarthBound "treats its characters," a lot of it comes down to what you discussed earlier about Ness being a catalyst for the player's childhood. Even if you have a close group of friends, you don't really know a whole lot about them when you're younger, right? You share some common interests, maybe you bond over something else, but you aren't quite at the point where you're having genuine conversations or learning much about each other's pasts, hopes, or wants. The player gets to be attached to them, especially with the Jeff and Poo chapters, and there's definitely something that still hits me when you read the letters from Dr. Andonuts and the Polestar Preschool student body, but you? You're just Ness. You're a kid worried about kid stuff like missing home or feeling sick. You like your friends, you want them to be just as okay, but there's a reason Ness/the player never has to worry about them being homesick instead. I might be looking into this a bit too much, but I think it can sorta serve a purpose in that regard. Sorry if I wasn't sufficient in clarifying my points.

[@Emmeth]

I honestly hadn't thought about how weather forecasters constantly call sunny warm days "beautiful" and cloudy and/or rainy days "ugly", "foreboding" or any other negative word you can think of. I think that's why I've taken a sub-conscious decision to love rainy days even more than sunny warm days. That's an interesting observation. Great video! Enjoyed it a lot.

[@TheHellspawnHero]

The point you make in the last few minutes, where you talk about how different the tones of EarthBound and mother 3 are, is honestly the biggest reason why I like Mother 3 more. For almost the entire game, EarthBound is full of jokes and weirdness, and doesn't really take itself seriously... up until the end, where it suddenly goes so full-throttle into "dark and disturbing" territory that it barely feels like the same game, and it gives me some serious (heh) emotional whiplash. Mother 3's alternating between comedy and emotional storytelling feels much more natural and measured to me, which, when combined with having some nice worldbuilding, a consistent, ongoing story arc, and treating the characters more like characters than mere player avatars, makes it a story I find myself much more invested in. The extra care they put into the writing goes a long way toward making the player care about what happens, and who it happens to.

[@WHErwin]

I love your fake sequelitis videos because they just ooze with charm. It's pretty obvious that have a passion for video games and I really like how you talk about your feelings with the games. Not just your opinion on certain game mechanics and such, but your own personal experiences with the game and how they relate to your own life and your perspective on the world. That's also something I really like about your let's plays. In my opinion the best episodes are when you're talking about some childhood story, or a random insignificant thing that happened recently that just slightly irks you, or your general outlook on life etc. and it's the same with this one. Your personality really shines through in this video and that's something people tend to shy away from when they do reviews and such, so a wildly different perspective like this is really refreshing, even if I can't relate to everything you're talking about. Keep 'em coming man.

[@sometypeofartist4323]

Great video, NCS. I always love when you work on side projects like these, it sounds like you can get a different kind of creative outlet than your LPs. Even if they weren't other Fake Sequelitises or reviews, I'd love to hear you just talk about games or some specific part of a game that's grabbed your attention in their own videos. :)

[@clickycal]

Awesome job. Paper mario 64 vs thousand year door would be fun next.

[@zeonx1355]

The feeling that this video was uploaded a day before my birthday from one of my long time favorite KZbinrs really warms my heart! Thanks NCS for always keeping me entertained and my guide for video games and life throughout the years!

[@NintendoCapriSun]

Awesome, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

[@zeonx1355]

@@NintendoCapriSun that's a huge surprise! Thanks my dude!

[@GuiItyUniverse]

Y'know... I actually think I get the whole "antagonist" feel sometimes. It's awful to think you're harmful to/for someone... or to throw your hands up and say you just want to be, out of pure frustration and lack of clarity. Knowing that this is all that remains of that for you gives me a shred of hope. So while everyone else enjoyed the video for other reasons, I feel like I took something personal away from it. Thanks Tim.

[@ragepoweredgamer]

Another FANTASTIC video, Tim. The only things I know about these games are what's been in the AVGN episode. But you're able to convey these games so well, I can honestly enjoy this content without even having played them. I'm DEFINITELY going to play these based on your recommendation, just like SO many games you've gotten me to try before. I've been a huge fan since 2010ish, and I'm so glad you still make your content the way that you do. Too many KZbin channels have declined, or stopped altogether, but I can always count on good ole NintendoCapriSun to put out something I'll love just as much, and in the same way, as I did back when I discovered Let's Play videos existed... Love you, Tim! Never stop!

[@jcam.hart8]

Mother 3 is my favorite out of the Mother trilogy.

[@garlicmasterw2657]

Same. In fact it is my favorite game of all time. :)

[@dejiko]

My favorite is MOTHER 1, mostly because of the OST.

[@Scarecrow2140]

Same

[@truthseek3017]

@@garlicmasterw2657 Yup, it is powerful. Love is the answer to everything.

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

By mother 1 do you mean the nes game? Cuz, yeesh. Earthbound(snes) has way more variety surely, and is basically an evolution of the nes game. Nostalgia goggles? I mean 8-bit tracks can be nice. But memories are also tied to it, so in a vacuum they sound better. Like being salty your wife left you so not gonna date cuz your date just feels like an inferior version of your ex. When in reality, its because you didnt take the time to appreciate her.

[@lmcd301]

Well! I’ve gotta say Tim, this one was way more thoughtful and interesting than I was expecting. Great to hear you go in more in-depth on Earthbound too, since I’d think most of us already know your opinions on Mother 3. Keep up the good work, Man.

[@mr.nickname9172]

*The Sequal, you’ve ALL BEEN WAITING FOR*

[@dullahan_of_light6047]

MOTHER! WAR! 3!!

[@jimmyjohnjoejr]

The sequel to the false sequelitis

[@justEvan]

Fantastic video Tim! Just for the sake of discussion (and because I love Mother 3 a lot more than EB) I feel like there were a few major things I love about the game that you left out that I wanted to bring up. One is how the music of M3 contributes to the narrative; it has a ton of leitmotifs for characters or areas that are remixed or changed to create a different emotional response or just to add to the story. A good example of this is how the song "Mom's Hometown" has a part of the Love theme in it to show the happy community and tightly knit everyone is, and the song "A Railway in Our Village!" is at face value a very happy and upbeat song for Tazmily after the time skip, but lacks the Love theme to show how Fassad and the Pigmasks have changed it. That might be reading too much into it, but it's something that's my headcanon at least. Another memorable leitmotif being Porky's theme that's used in more songs than I can remember. I just love how the music adds to the narrative through using recognizable tunes to give you an idea on what might be going on. The other thing is while Earthbound has a ton of different towns and M3 only really has the one main one, it's mainly just because the structures of the story are so different. In Earthbound you're a group of kids traveling around the world to fight an evil entity that's spreading, where the focus is on your party; while in Mother 3, the story is really about Tazmily and how the community changes over time in response to everything that happens (the perspective shifts throughout the first half of the game just help establish who everyone is and how life is for them all). Tazmily is the only town because (SPOILERS AHEAD) it hits that much harder when things change, and people start to leave or act differently around Chapter 4, and ESPECIALLY when everybody is gone near the end of the game. The story, while also being about Lucas and co, is about the people of Tazmily. Sorry for the really long, not well thought out, rambly post, these are just two major distinctions between the two games that I thought you might bring up and wanted to write down here just in case you didn't. Thanks again for making such a great video! (and also loving cloudy weather, we are kindred spirits in that way)

[@someguycalledgoober155]

Hot take "Fake" Sequalitis is better than the "Real" Sequalitis I feel that Tim's kinda more understanding about game design and story than Egoraptor is, even when he goes on a tangent that doesn't seem like it relates to the game itself, it does in some sense. Like how Tim was talking about the clouds and the 'perfect' weather then tied it to realism and reliability to the characters, rather than cramming in another game for no other reason than he doesn't like how that game plays. I really didn't like Arin's OoT vs LtP's Sequalitis because of it, he brought Skyward Sword in for basically no reason in terms of comparing the two games.

[@GalaxiaSword]

As well as making bad comparisons between LTTP and OOT. Which makes it seem like he just sucks at 3D Zelda. Personally, I’m not a fan of Skyward Sword, but that game had nothing to do with what he was talking about and it was just hastily inserted just so he can bash it. Tim does a better job comparing and contrasting. Bonus points for him not being obnoxious and annoying to listen to.

[@someguycalledgoober155]

@@GalaxiaSword I think it was more than seems when he played OoT.

[@mrkbiii8669]

Your explanations and demeanor are great for this style of video. Thank you for all the content! I'm sorry I missed this video when it was released.

[@DrMario-]

Holy crap, it's been so long seen the last one, and I remember watching the Metroid one over and over again cause it was so dang good. This one is no exception, and will definitely be getting watched again. So happy to see how far you have come, not only in the fake sequelitis, but in general for the over 11-ish years I have been watching you. Just keep doing what you love man, cause I'll 100% watch it.

[@MrSuperMario34]

Great vid, Tim! 🐐

[@thatdsiguy8919]

oh man seeing this kind of content from you is always a nice surprise, great job man

[@CractusJohn]

Glad you threw in at the end (kinda) that you can actually run in Mother 3, that was one thing I never understood why they didn’t have in Earthbound. I still love both games, but Mother 3 more so- it’s my favorite game of all time. Great vid!

[@salemthecat]

Great review Tim! I love how you talked about the pros and cons of each game. You spared no praise or criticism for each. Great job! I also really felt the personal connection from you.

[@banana1231234]

Love you Tim, thanks for the video. That bit at the end where you talk about having that year where you couldn't think clearly was very relatable and I hope your doing better now.

[@sgtdrfunk]

Kudos on getting this done. I always knew the runtime was hella ambitious and it's always awesome to see when you never give up and get this all out here. That said, I do wanna offer some actual critique on the video and yeah, it's mostly the last big chunk of it. It felt a little incongruous with the rest of the video for me- it's not a bad section, in fact I find it the most interesting and insightful part of the whole thing, moving beyond the usual spectrum of a video game review. But that's what makes it stand out. I can definitely see where it might have been its own video and honestly, I think it still may have been better off that way. It's like the meat of the whole thing. It's like your thesis. A whole video about how games TREAT their characters, how it lets them react, how a player connects with them- that's some liquid gold right there, and I feel like if it had been a video called "Earthbound is Meaner than Mother 3" I would have been a lot more prepared and invested when all of a sudden I'm watching weather reports. That was a bizarre feeling, but like, I'm here for it. That's the kind of Zeltik, Schaffrillas, delicious clickbait analytical I'm into. But before I get into my 40 minute long analysis here as I'm wont to do, let me just say it's always nice to see some different content from you. Looking forward to the next one.

[@chaosmiles07]

Those last ten minutes is PERFECT Sequelitis material. Thank you, Tim! Can't wait for the next one!

[@Oblivionitus]

It's ironic that the last portion isn't usually his style. Really emphasizes the "fake" of his Sequelitis take, even though I much prefer his insight over Arin's

[@KlaviceGavin]

Oof... Mood whiplash with you thanking your parents both of whom have died fairly recently... I'm just grateful you're still alive and somewhere your parents are looking down on you and smiling. Tim, I think this is your best sequelitis yet and despite not completing Mother 3 yet, I agree with most of your points. The rhythm battle system is a unique touch that if there is a 4th Mother game on the horizon, it should be brought back. But I'm terrible at the rhythm battle so that's wishful thinking. I just want to say I know your pain of losing loved ones. In 2007 I lost my grandmother and this year I lost my grandfather's new wife. Both really hit me hard. So don't ever think you're alone. Your fans are backing you!

[@nb_nic]

The bit you did near the end about suspension of disbelief was really good !! There's a lot of theory about stuff like that in theatre and imo you hit the nail on the head with how you explained the occasional issues the series has with that. I do feel like Mother 3's suspension of disbelief is utilized in a better way, and exists to serve a very strong point.

[@Caront]

Coming from a perspective of just how much work my 2-3 min. intro videos were for my LPs, man. 30 min.! Thank you for putting all that thought & deliberation into the video. It was a nice comparison and critique of both. Also, thanks for the art, Polter!

[@Kurausukun]

Man, this was such a great video. It really felt like a "sequelitis" video in the best way possible, right down to ranting about problems you have with games that you still love. It really resonated with me.

[@BrokenBatteryProductionsMain]

The weather man thing was so great. I couldn't agree more

[@OlAdam7]

haha love that little rant about sunny weather vs cloudy weather. so glad you made this. I honestly think of your sequelitis vids over egoraptors now. great quality!

[@HumdrumSuperior]

Tim I’ve been watching your stuff for about eight or nine years now. I’m really glad that you’ve been one of the few people who produce videos for KZbin that have not only stayed the same in important ways, but have also improved. I know there have probably been lots of points where it would have been easy to jump ship from Nintendo claiming videos to the adpocalypse so I just wanted to let you know that I’m really glad you stuck with it and with all of us. This video clearly took a lot of effort and it really shows. I don’t know if it means anything (or if you’ll even read this comment) but I’m praying for you and wish you the best. Thanks for great videos like this one!

[@zboy18]

Great to see another one of these, I wish you had touched more on Mother 3's story but I can see wanting to leave it for someone to experience fresh. I was battling some seasonal depression around this time last year and watching your Mother 3 LP just put a big smile on my face getting to experience the story like that thank you!

[@Hitmonstahp]

Overcast and rainy days are my favorite! Great video, Tim!

[@braddye4983]

Nice video Tim, I can see a lot of love went into it. I know it can be hard to make a video of this quality but it is awesome and I love it!

[@8man_]

Great job with this one as usual, Tim. I always enjoy these

[@devilish21885]

Yes! Been waiting for this since the Metroid video.

[@ThetrueCosmicKaiju]

So, this may be one of the most important videos for me. Nintendocaprisun has not only inspired me enough to be a let's player but more importantly he has helped me battle severe clinical depression for years now and I just recently started playing Mother 2 for the first time and it has helped me to fight off my separation anxiety when i am alone at night. I can't thank you enough, Tim. Much love to you.

[@theoaremevano3227]

This is a remarkable series, and even though it's a hell of a lot of work I hope it keeps going. :) I've personally never played EB or M3, but have seen multiple playthroughs of both, yours included and this really hit on a lot of patterns and thematic issues that would be easy to overlook without really taking a step back and thinking about it and made for some really interesting material for a direct comparison. And I have to admit I love cloudy days far more than sunny days too. To be honest, part of what always made me like them was how it felt like it wasn't the 'routine' for a day. It felt, and still feels to me like the world is more awake and like something's actually happening today instead of just 'nothing to see here, move along.' XD

[@PhaseTwo22]

This is seriously great. You should do analysis videos like this more often

[@GenericName17]

Yes! You made my day releasing another one of these! Fantastic as always Tim.

[@RosarioFanpire]

Bless you NCS you are a blessing for this world

[@puffaccino]

This was... amazing . I love these videos *.* thank you for the hard work!!

[@GoodOldDaysGaming]

Nice writing and a pleasant listen as well! I love your Water Hands character designs and how you use them for these sequelitis videos. Also, "A fond memory!? A fond memory?!" reminded me of Dumb and Dumber: "A tad?! A tad, Lloyd!?"

[@Avery.L]

This video is fantastic! Definitely worth the wait and hard work out into it

[@AimlessWandererSano]

Great video NCS. Also yeah, forget those forecasters. I work outside and whenever it's a day of constant overcast with some thick cloud cover, all I need is a nice cool breeze to call it the best work day ever.

[@donchindle2958]

Love the video Tim!!

[@andyfritter]

Tim, great work on the video, really, love what you're coming out with lately!

[@BPHaru]

I hope we get Mother 3 in English on a Nintendo console some day, I'm still waiting to play it. Thanks for the great video Tim.

[@theccarbiter]

It’s funny cause I decided to rewatch your mother 3 lp like a week ago and then this comes out, great vid btw

[@Ghalji]

Love these type of videos Tim, keep up the good work.

[@TheGamedawg]

I love these deep dives from you. This is such a great video!

[@EOwens-uq4zd]

Funny and insightful! I love hearing your thoughts and memories. Maybe that's why your LPs are so good~

[@ThomCote88]

Excellent work! The point you bring up about EB's treatment of its characters is a really interesting one I hadn't thought of. I think M3's characters have an overall much rougher time, but obviously the game treats it much more seriously.

[@bruhmemes3831]

Hoo boy! This was quite a trip. I gotta say, I agree with a lot of your points; especially the "fondest of memories" bit that hit me hard yet so true. It's like going to a boring place for adults (in a kid's point of view) and having to smile for a photo because... well, you 'have to'. Whereas obtaining something everlasting and meaningful from someone you know is THE fondest of all memories. And Can I just mention that temperature thing too? I've actually nearly fainted from hypothermia in extremely cold winter-like environments and lemme tell ya that entering a 0-5 degrees ferinheight environment after swimming inside for a bit is AWFUL. I will say though, I don't think "extreme" heat of something over 100 degrees ain't great either, but man. I'd much rather take a warm and rainy/foggy day than a burning desert or winter snow place, that's for sure. After recently doing another playthrough of Earthbound, I can safely say that this is 100% accurate. Fantastic work, Tim, and keep being amazing.

[@ItMeRobin]

I definitely get what you're saying with the soundtracks. EarthBound's more alien feeling sounds I feel is a result of much of its enemy theming. You are facing off against aliens, really. With Mother 3's much more down to earth OST, most of what you're fighting is, or at one point, was fully organic, which I feel both OSTs manage to work very well for the respective games. As for the final bosses, yeah, Giygas is conceptually great, and what it does is fantastic. But with Mother 3's, I really enjoy how you really don't do anything during it. Yeah, it's very story heavy, but it serves that incredibly well, making for an emotional final encounter, and I really loved what it did. Really solid work, overall on this video.

[@BigKlingy]

I applaud you for avoiding mentioning spoilers for a game that isn't official out in English. Though I'm weirdly in the opposite boat: I don't know a ton about Earthbound apart from the final boss, but I know almost all Mother 3's plot. Probably because I always found Lucas more interesting than Ness in Smash, so I looked up more stuff on his game. Speaking of which, Ness is practically the only experience I have with Earthbound. It, Final Fantasy 6 and Super Mario RPG never got released in Australia while I was growing up, so kids of my generation only had Pokemon and Final Fantasy 7 when it came to RPG introductions. I'll need to try it some time. Edit: Your speech on finding it hard when the game expects you to laugh at the characters' misery hit home for me a bit, since I get that a lot too. It happens on children's cartoons especially often, they'll have one character as the designated "Butt Monkey" whose whole role is for the audience to laugh at their suffering. I've personally never found that funny (unless the "monkey" is a complete asshole who had it coming), and it's interesting to see someone else feel that way too.

[@racingginger3147]

This was an amazing video

[@peachymiku6432]

I really enjoy seeing your in depth look on this, Tim! I never considered some of that stuff you said about Earthbound, but wow, I can see how can hit home! And yeah, even I noticed how all four heroes are basically silent protagonists in Earthbound in my last playthrough. However... That last playthrough was when I beat it for the first time ever. I was in a rough patch in life at the time, that I am still recovering from. And I was sitting on my bed, 3DS in hand, on the final boss of Earthbound. I know I'm close, and I am literally in tears. I never beat the game before, and I really wanted to help Ness and the others. I'm crying from happiness when I finally win, and I it takes a while before I calm down... and then I had to avoid a laughing fit as my dad just had to call me during the final cutscene ala Chuggaaconroy! I do agree with you that Mother 3 is the better game though. Better story, better battles, I even like the party a little bit more. But that final battle hit me just as hard. I got to say that both games were very good at that! At least to me anyway!

[@TyGuy9001]

Very good video!

[@hadynjaynes149]

This was REALLY good!!! Make more!!!

[@moonstatue9657]

A fake sequelitis on the persona series would be amazing tim keep up the amazing work man.

[@tobyjack1238]

TIM, THANK YOU FOR FINALLY BEING THE FIRST HUMAN BEING TO AGREE WITH ME THAT CLOUDY DAYS ARE BETTER THAN SUNNY ONES! I can't express with words how good this makes me feel.

[@ericamcfly6782]

I love you Tim 💖💖💖

[@ZachLane89]

These type of videos are ROCKIN’ ;)

[@dobadobadooo]

Honestly, I think calling this "Fake Sequelitis" is really underselling the quality of this. I'd say this is far better than any review Egoraptor has ever made (though that may not be saying much).

[@flapjacko]

i’d say mother is pretty high up on the “least toxic fanbases” list, along with ace attorney and animal crossing

[@gerragotheallidile]

Bruh... Mother's fandom has only gotten worse when Mother 3 was released. I'm not joking.

[@cronchy]

yeah bc its a v small fandom ;w;

[@cronchy]

i kinda like it dat way doe

[@bowkatiewow]

Such an underrated series on your channel. I love watching these ❤️

[@zelos1826]

Both of these games are SO good... they all have pros and cons like all other games, but holy shit, so good. I want to replay them at some point. I was lucky enough to avoid spoilers for M3, so when I played it blind, it hit me HARD.

[@zerosky8946]

More fake Sequelitis! Had to stop everything to watch this masterpiece

[@Nintendrone42]

Hell yeah, the return of the best series! I don't blame you for going in hard on EarthBound since I get anal about a lot of its little things too, like the limited walking animations or the start of the game actually kind of sucking due to solo Ness having a super limited inventory and no interesting battle options. Also, if warm weather bothers you that much, I'd advise you to steer clear from Florida; living there has made me feel like a hot day up north is freezing.

[@Starman256]

23:38 TRUE, I absolutely love overcast and 'depressing' feeling weather like that

[@lawnmowerman725]

Hell YES, this is awesome. Also glad someone else knows what Citizens of Earth is.

[@rainythemagician8830]

Man, that whole rant about the sun is pretty relatable. While I don't really know Fahrenheit, this whole thing kinda happens in most places too, with the super hot weather being the status quo for good, regardless of the fact that not only it comes with personal preference, but also the fact that a varied weather is better than just having one thing all the time. Not only that, but I just live in a place that tends to be consistently hot, even in autumn and winter, so it becomes annoying really quickly. I don't think I should go on with that, because that's not even the subject of the video, I'm just making an observation. Anyway, I'm glad to see a pretty unbiased review of these games, everything I see tends to just call them masterpieces that have no flaws and only mention the good stuff, while generally glancing over a lot of problems with these games, and neglecting a lot of things that might not drive everyone into it due to subjectivity. Granted most people who praise the games tend to people who don't know much about RPGs and don't like the genre and think that these games are the only standouts from the usual fantasy setting or anything (despite the fact that games are pretty fantasious in their own way). Yet, you still handle with care knowing that a lot of people enjoy it, and you never feel like you're just unjustifyingly bashing the games, as they have a lot of merit indeed, they're just not perfect as a lot of people tend to say (because nothing is perfect anyway). I do prefer the whole tone and gameplay of Mother 3 as a whole, but I understand the appeal of the first two games, and I think they're pretty inventive, even if they have some little flaws which I believe were fixed in Mother 3. (Mainly the gameplay of Mother 3 feeling more interesting). I don't find the games as relatable because I don't live in the USA, so a slightly more ambiguous or foreign setting feels interesting to me regardless. And what tends to make me feel relatable about things is generally more character interactions or whatever, than the setting. I can get pretty into a game regardless of any of that. I'm generally not an advocate for remakes of a lot of games just for the sake of it, but I think this is indeed a series that could benefit from a remake treatment, granted it keeps the appeal and a similar visual style, while maintaining what makes it special, and streamlining everything that might be inconvenient, or improving on things that could put off some players. Earthbound Beginnings/Mother 1/Zero is the best example obviously, but I do think a little overhaul could help Earthbound to keep up with Mother 3. (I do think for example, the games could benefit from being a little bit faster gameplay-wise).

[@Lexyvil]

Awesome anslysis and comparison on both games! I personally love Mother 3 more, maybe because I haven't finished Earthbound growing up (I was stuck in Twoson as a kid), but I can definitely see why it has a devoted fanbase--it has a huge amount of charm for an SNES title.

[@eckitronix]

I do think your idea for The Antagonist as a 'negative review' series of beloved titles was a cool idea I also like how you didn't go for the route of "oh well in Chapter 3 Jim's pet goat blew up" and spoiled whatever happened in the game, thank you for that genuinely

[@thethunderspirt87]

i love these so much

[@Yosh4761]

I never knew that antagonist line had any other meaning behind it. I thought it was just a funny line in the versus.

[@kazuichisouda2026]

"Mother 3 is a bit nicer to it's main characters." Chapter 1, Chapter 3, Chapter 8. Wanna run that by me again?

[@psychic-paranoia8020]

Well it was a different kind of niceness. The kind of kindness that eventually stabs you in the back.

[@Glory2Snowstar]

"A bit nicer." "STUPID MONKEY!" ZZZAAAAPPPP If the Mother 3 characters have it a bit nicer, is Ness a war vet or something?

[@happy.time.boredom]

Wanna run that by me while I run a knife across Hinawa's neck?

[@JesterQueenAnne]

@@Glory2Snowstar tbf, Salsa is the only Mother 3 character that gets that much physical pain.

[@Duskool]

I think he meant that the suffering that Mother 3's characters get is treated with some respect and seriousness, while Earthbound's protagonists suffering is intended to be more like slapstick humor.

[@murpuhbuh1196]

good work NCS!

[@trueblueryu5713]

I’m always gonna prefer Mother 3 and hope that it does end up getting a proper international release one day. I admittedly never thought Earthbound was especially phenomenal, but I do agree that it seemed like a nice break from the routine JRPG’s of the early-mid 90’s. I’m at least happy that people do have solid access to Earthbound now and they don’t have to spend an arm and a leg getting it

[@OverratedGames]

Oh baby, I love these

[@pumpkinpie9599]

Awesome!

[@SimplyDad]

God I remember the original one you made years and years and years ago, nostalgia.

[@mememcqueen5052]

Love your content man. You're pretty cool 😎

[@RustyRat]

Wat!, i haven't seen this one till now? Damn you KZbin!!!

[@zacharydetrick7428]

Just call it "Capriquelitis"

[@Starman256]

That's why Threed is my favorite Earthbound town

[@LiveByMyWill]

Ooo! Another vid talking about a great series.

[@Czah5]

My Body: "I'M READY!"

[@colossaldonut5190]

It's here! Oh well, not as much of a gap as the real sequelitis, you gotta master that kinda craft!

[@zoura_3025]

Another aspect of earthbound that some players might find discouraging is that the first few hours of the game (before your party assembles) can be rough. Not to mention, some parts of the game can be quite opaque.

[@MarsPhoenix63]

Hey Tim, I just felt it was my duty as a rhythm game lover to mention that the first age of rhythm games didn't begin with Guitar Hero - it was started in 1997 with Konami's Beatmania. Dance Dance Revolution also started in 1998. These games and several others from the era are still going on strong today, so Guitar Hero was really more the Western mainstream beginning of rhythm games... with exception to DDR which was pretty well known by that time. Edit: I would also be making a mistake to not mention PaRappa the Rapper in 1996!

[@GamingAnimator1]

I enjoy these way more than the actual sequelitis videos by Egoraptor. Mainly because Tim actually talks about the games and compares and contrasts them, unlike Arin who's always bitching and complaining about shit that isn't even true, making bad annoying jokes, and acting like he knows game design despite it being a known fact that he's horrible at video games.

[@boiwifeyasmr4U]

Oh my God. You said the same thing that I'm always saying about myself. "I'm the antagonist of someone else's story."