Easy tuning guide for betaflight 4.4

[@Anadrol88]

Excellent video thanks a ton !

[@RaukFPV]

You’re welcome,

[@silverfish27]

Nice summary, and it will improve quite a lot the tune. But I believe tuning FF it's also quite important. And improving the filtering. I hope you do a second part!

[@RaukFPV]

Thanks! It really will! 😁 I will make a tuning guide for FF and item at some point.

[@Anadrol88]

@@RaukFPV Please do !

[@krisserbin4748]

Hey, I've a bit different question and maybe you can help me. My Flywoo Flylens 85 is draining battery like a hell. Usually current consumption is over 10A up to 30A. I was looking on youtube several reviews and usually people get 8- 9A. Do you have any idea what can cause that and where to look for solution?

[@RaukFPV]

Would have to look into it a bit more before I can say for sure what is happening. Just of the top of my head there could be several things. Made a list of my thoughts 1. The esc voltage reading is not properly calibrated. 2. They might be hovering more. 3. A change in altitude might make the drone have to work harder to keep itself in the air. (If you are at high altitudes) 4. If there's any wind the small drone will have to fight more to be stable. If you have a video, i can take a look. You can also message me on discord. @raukael Alternatively, Joshua bardwell is also really helpful with these things

[@treyhankee1858]

Are your props facing the right way?

[@Actionmannin]

you didn't turn your dynamic damping back on in the video?

[@RaukFPV]

Yep, i leave it at 0, i don't use dynamic damping at all.

[@TheCloudwalkerFPV]

You don't need it.

[@Actionmannin]

@@TheCloudwalkerFPV Why not?

[@OmiedJ]

Hello, nice video. I like your style. I now follow ed several tuning guide and they all use pidtoolbox and boxplorer. But most of them just Start with d gain and leave the Tracking aside. And at the end. Do you need dynamic dampening? Or just if you have a dynamic filter!? Thanks again and pls continue.

[@RaukFPV]

Thank you very much i appreciate it! ive seen a few others as well, the only reason i start with tracking slider is that it have worked very well for me. i felt it was harder to get the tune right starting with the d gain. its basically the ratio between the p/d we are working on at first, as i turn off the i gains while finding the balance. i dont use dynamic dampening, i just leave it off. and it not needed for dynamic filtering either. again thanks for watching :D

[@OmiedJ]

@@RaukFPV thanks again. Roser did it in his last 4.4. Tuning Vid as well. have a great summer and stay healthy

[@Chillin-fpv]

So how do I know what rc link preset to choose for elrs? I left mine stock cuz idk and haven't been able to find an answer yet

[@RaukFPV]

On your radio you should go i to the elrs menu, in the menu look for where it says packet rate. Not sure what the stock rate is. But I recommend either 250hz or F500. Let me know how it goes :)

[@gerki_fpv]

After playing with tracking you set Driftwobble to 0,8 but said nothing about this step before you play with the master. That is the point i didnt understand 😮

[@RaukFPV]

while finding the balance between p and d i set the drift wobble to 0. So it doesn't interfere with the balance.

[@gerki_fpv]

@@RaukFPV so your way is Tracking, Driftwobble and after that Master Multi? Tuning in this 3 Steps?

[@RaukFPV]

oh, i see i made a mistake when recording the video. sorry for that. I set the drift wobble slider to 0.8 after i tuned the master multiplayer, to sum it up, pd balance, then mastermultipler, then the driftwobble to 0.8 .

[@gerki_fpv]

@@RaukFPV 😀. Why you start with tracking? Most guides start with damping, is there a advantage? Did you determined drift wobble also with a measurment series? My problem is often the curves are fine until i start to play with drift wobble in the last step.

[@RaukFPV]

its a good question, for my builds i've often found that i needed a higher P in balance to D, so its mostly just preference. and as i turn off I term, it doesn't matter to much. all my builds works with drift wobble set to 0.8. it seems the i-term has a pretty wide tuning window. what problems are you getting when playing with drift wobble?

[@gonzafpv2843]

hello rauk! thanks for all this! the tune procces you show us, it was done with a cinewhoop? thanks!

[@RaukFPV]

Hey Yes the tune method works for cinewhoops. I am waiting for an aio and i will make a video tuning a cinewhoops. Thanks for watching

[@megiMove]

those rates on the ending.. is that really your rates? i know i should be learning this stuff since my motor or ESC is making some kind og weak flute sound... not that much, but i can hear it. i dont know if its coming from pid tunes or ESC.. i got it build for me an AOS 5.5 V2 with dji O3 and xing 2 2306 1755kw motors.. but, the ESC on the drone was some chinese shit.. and the rest of the drone was pretty premium :P is it dangerous to fly around with some little flute sound from motors\esc? i think it flies pretty fast. i flashed it once to BLUEJAY and after that it went bananas.. it just staretd floating upwards and i had to disarm it from the sky.. everytime i tried it my heartrate went up so i deleted all and did factory reset on the ESC and after that i have been very afraid of messing with the ESC, ive played around with the KARATE 5" preset and increasing the master multiplier up and down... it feels like a totally new quad with that up 1.3 or over. but, since i am notice that flute sound even at 1.1 and 1.6 .. same sound doesnt really matter. motors are never hot... so i dont think it is coming from that tune, but something else.. =P

[@RaukFPV]

Hey, yes my current rates are 30 430 0.3 in pitch and roll, while yaw is 30 380 0.3, been playing a lot around with them but these seem to fit my style of flying the most. not sure what you mean by flute sound, i would like to help you, do you know what esc you've got in there? and also, when flashing bluejay, did you go with the 48khz. and did you enable bidirectional dshot? ideally you want to set everything to default flash bluejay, enable bi-directional dshot and go out for a rip, see if it flies away. Also if you want you can hit me up on discord @ Rauk#5348 id be happy to help there And lastly thanks for watching! :D

[@EliProductions]

Hey nice guide! Do u turn dynamic damping back on to 1 after tuning?

[@RaukFPV]

Thanks!! And thank you for watching! No i leave dynamic damping at 0. Don't want something that is variable to interfere with the tune.

[@AlexeySLK]

I can set it up with FF gains, D max and I gains disabled. But as soon as they are back in place, everything becomes unstable again. Couldn't fix it, sadly

[@RaukFPV]

Try only enabling i and ff, leave dmax off. Dmax tends to mess up the tune. Thanks for watching.

[@AlexeySLK]

@@RaukFPV Thanks for the advice! I have a very strange situation, in addition to the problem described above, there is also a difference in the PID graphs, depending on whether the battery is full or already discharged. This small but powerful 3" quad is driving me crazy.

[@RaukFPV]

The pids Will react a bit different depending on your battery charge. As the voltage goes down the motors becomes less powerful and therefore the pids will react a bit different.

[@B4LOoO]

Easy😢 well not for everyone 😅 for me there is too much footage of you and note enough screen time on the software to understand more than 30% of what I need to do , and I’ve watched your video 3 times already , but I’ll keep up. I'm going to make those BBE Files for now. Baby steps 😊

[@RaukFPV]

hey, thanks for watching, yearh, it does become a bit complicated, but the method in itself is pretty easy. once you understand the programs. now that being said, if you got any questions i would very much like to help you. and you can add me on discord (Raukael) if you want and i will help you there as well.

[@EricLaermans]

Use the pause-function in KZbin and you will be perfectly fine.

[@k1ortia]

Damm, i just want to plug in a battery and fly. Great explanation though.

[@RaukFPV]

You can mostly. Unless it's a diy. Then some setup is needed. Tuning isn't a necessity, but some thing than can get you more responsiveness and/or more smooth flying. And thanks for the kind words. Thanks for watching!

[@k1ortia]

@@RaukFPV Your welcome. I have just completed a build, using the Jhemf405Aio board with 40a esc.. it lifts off and Hoover's, but soon as i apply throttle to send it , it de-syncs and drops out the air every time. Iv tried bluejay and also normal esc settings with Betaflight. Any solutions? Much appreciated

[@RaukFPV]

40A ESC is quite low if it's a 5" freestyle. :/ It might be too low for your motors. What motors are you using?

[@k1ortia]

@@RaukFPV The motors are 2004-2900kv. And it's an ultra light concept 195 frame. Never had this issue before in my life, and iv been flying for over 4 years.

[@RaukFPV]

Hmm. Yeh, those seem fine with the 40A. Have you checked the blackbpx logs?

[@andreasgusti7484]

how easy tune in no BB

[@RaukFPV]

It can be done. But not as effective, or nearly as good. If you want to do it without BB, you could try with the DVR and listening very carefully. But be sure to check motor temps a lot to not kill your ESC or motors.

[@andreasgusti7484]

@@RaukFPV thank you …

[@mortenrnielsen9775]

👍😉👍

[@RaukFPV]

Thanks! 😃