Eating That GOOD GOOD (Nasi GANJA) + LOCALS Favorite Bean Sprout Chicken | Ipoh, Malaysia

[@yanputra83]

Curry on rice and I'm in heaven. Nasi ganja is totally worth travelling by train from KL. For anyone that wants to try Nasi Ganja and you see there is a long line and the restaurant is full, don't worry. You can go to Kedai Sama Sama Kaya just a few shops away on the same block. You just order drinks from them and they can order Nasi Ganja from Kedai Kopi Yong Suan for you.

[@Macoi24]

solid information. thanks brother

[@learnmusichistory6221]

Your eating in hand and making no mess at the table amazing and respect .

[@cancelgaming1293]

You offically malaysian when call the waiters "boss"🤣

[@Macoi24]

haha okay lah 😉

[@kaceangelo132]

I know Im asking randomly but does anybody know a way to get back into an instagram account..? I stupidly lost the login password. I would love any help you can offer me!

[@mathiaskash1458]

@Kace Angelo Instablaster =)

[@kaceangelo132]

@Mathias Kash thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm in the hacking process atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.

[@kaceangelo132]

@Mathias Kash It did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D Thanks so much you really help me out :D

[@pinkeu9918]

Hi max , sorry for the haze happening now in Malaysia. Pls take care of ur health and serve us more beautiful videos 😊

[@FoodXBert]

Congrats!!! Going to be hitting 100k very soon man. Great video. You really found so many amazing foods in Malaysia on this trip. You make me want to hop over the border to have some more of that amazing food.

[@Macoi24]

haha I am sure Thailand is treating you good dude! Thanks buddy. not much more to go

[@kiattay7884]

I don't know why I couldn't stop watching all yr videos!!… Such a good mix of nostlagic dishes, flavor and places!!!...How I envy you....

[@pixpigdon]

God knows why you got 3 thumbs down, some people just don't appreciate good food. Thanks again awesome video and delicious food.

[@Macoi24]

haha maybe it was a mistake. Maybe it was a computer. idk, all I know is I would rather focus on all the amazing comments and likes:) It is my pleasure as always!!!

[@ExM2g]

Max, you are a Malaysian ! ( The way you introduce our food... Always makes me hungry...lol

[@Macoi24]

Heyyyy, glad to finally make ti!! haha

[@jsoriano413]

Max, I've been watching your videos. I love your content and your personality and commentary are easy to watch. I also admire how you call the older Asian ladies "aunties" and older Asian men, "uncles" much respect. We use those terms as word of endearment in my culture. You have a new sub

[@Macoi24]

Of course! Just feels natural to use those words because everybody feels like family to me! Welcome to the family! Glad you found the channel!

[@brandonmoore2237]

You are such a fantastic food vlogger, Max. I just found your channel yesterday but you're already one of my favorites on KZbin! Can't wait to see you hit 100k!

[@Macoi24]

haha thanks man! Good to hear from you the other day in email!

[@farouqomaro598]

Wow! You managed to eat Nasi Ganja & Bean Stalk Chicken. Congratulations

[@Hazim_Hafidzul]

Thank you Max for choosing Malaysia as your destination to discover, I hope your enjoy in Malaysia, appreciate it✌🏻

[@Macoi24]

I always do and seem to come back a lot!

[@Hazim_Hafidzul]

Max McFarlin thanks again, love to see you happy in Malaysia

[@amekimchi5434]

Just found your channel recently, just loving your videos. You aspired me to go for food&travel. Your the best man. From a Malaysian I thank you for loving malaysian food 💕

[@Macoi24]

Really glad you found the channel! Yes, I love so much and I always seem to make it back. ha!

[@hillvalent]

Really mind blowing Max...you ate all the food that many Westerner considered taboo to eat...chicken feet, pork intestines, gizzard...etc...thumbs up!

[@Macoi24]

some of the best parts. their loss and my gain haha

[@belldybala421]

What more I can say, Max...you’re the best food critics ever! You made everything scrumptious with the way you eat it & with your facial expression. Awesome job Max! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@Macoi24]

Awe you are too kind to me:)

[@kennykoo88]

Thanks for your video sharing. I will always support your channel. Thanks again. Good job! Really so detailing. Welcome you back to Malaysia.

[@anggerikmerah5330]

Another great video, I'm happy and proud that you loved Malaysian food. The foods look so yummy in this video 🤗👍😋

[@flaweddaisy]

I don’t know why I always watch your videos when I’M FASTING😂 The Nasi ganja got me drooling 🤤

[@Macoi24]

haha yeah, probably not the best time lol

[@jasminrosealcotte3225]

I am your new subscriber. One of the best food channel.

[@Macoi24]

wow, thank you so much! Welcome to the family! Glad you found the channel!

[@mynamenoahbotak9244]

Tq max...kerana dtg ke ipoh....

[@margaretjefferies6539]

Love the older neighborhoods you feature.

[@spectrallim4802]

OMG your eating nasi ganja with de hand skills are level 10. Perfectly executed my man.

[@Macoi24]

🙏😁

[@sofiani4ever]

I would strongly suggest watching Max's videos with your tummy full. Watching him savoring every bite, explaining the multi dimensions and the explosions of flavors he's experiencing will make your mouth water, and then you will want the food, and then you realize you have to go to each and every country to eat the food, and then you cry in the corner of your room because you can't have the food, but then you can't stop watching his videos, and then get hungry again and again. 😭😭😭 What a cruel, cruel man.. 😍 Love your videos! Can't wait to see where you're going next! 😘

[@Macoi24]

what a visual😂 haha so happy to hear you are enjoying...wait...can I say you enjoy watching with that reaction? lolz!!!

[@sofiani4ever]

@@Macoi24Oh I so enjoy watching your videos to the max! You and your videos are the closest I can get to those delicious food! And spicy food are mykindofeats too! 🔥

[@Macoi24]

Today was a good one for eating in Malaysia. Not only did I get to eat that “good good”, but I also found the pinnacle of bean sprout chicken. Connect with me other places! Instagram: instagram.com/mykindofeats/ Twitter: twitter.com/mykindofeats Facebook: facebook.com/mykindofeats/ Website: mykindofeats.com/ Much love, Max

[@jehanc]

Wah you know how to eat this favorite food of mine. Kai si hor fun.

[@Pauline_cheong]

ipoh has the best food... i missed my hometown... thank you for posting... memories alot

[@ninarmn644]

Oh wow, eating nasi ganja with your hand & teh tarik on the side; officially Malaysian 😊✅

[@OperaJH]

That’s the same as Mexican Flan! Delicious! That nasi ganja is too much - I want some right now!!!! And you’re eating it right, with your fingers - it was always a treat for us as kids, growing up in Singapore! Oh yum!!!😋😋😋

[@Macoi24]

I was there for a long weekend and I was really surprised how many people from Singapore make the trip to Ipoh!!!

[@Altruistic00]

I personally prefer cold tau foo fah. Just keep them in the fridge for few hours. As the cold tau foo fah slides down the throat, the coldness just gives that amazing refreshing feeling, perfect after eating something spicy. My favourite dessert for berbuka puasa during ramadhan month 😬

[@Macoi24]

Ohhh very interesting and good to know!

[@No_name13131]

You ate like local, respect you bro !! 👊

[@hazbu]

Yes, they use biji kas-kas (poppy seeds) in their cooking. Kas-kas is banned in Singapore, but not in Malaysia and Indonesia

[@rosita-maureen9837]

Eating that much and staying so slim, awesome Max 😘

[@ayudewipuspasari6088]

You always make me hungry Max, love your video 👌👍❤

[@oneazah56]

Hungry!!!hungry!!!hungry!!!... yummy...yummy...yummy... so many amazing foods in malaysia right

[@mkelli4678]

hello santa this vids is so much where you are heading in the here and now well done rosy cheeks!

[@iera09]

My god ,every time I'm watching your video , I will take my food and eating while watching you .

[@ariezah-wd7ti]

When I'm watching this video always feeling hungry 😋..

[@AidanZO305]

Gotta give to ya bud, I have all watched a lot of food reviews, vlogs and what not ... you are definitely way up there! You immerse yourself in the local culture, very engaged in your mission, it’ like going on a date with your eyes wide open .. knowing who you are meeting and some background checks 😝. The short end You Know Your Stuff!!! Great job buddy, you should consider living in Malaysia and do your Asia tour of Asian cuisines!!! big ❤️ brotha!

[@Macoi24]

Maybe one day, but to give a tour I would have to learn sooo much more! That is okay though because I love learning about the food and culture so much! Really means a lot to me what you said, so thank you so much! However, I believe I have a lot of improvements left to make, which I know I will:)

[@AidanZO305]

Max McFarlin I have been following you for quite some time and I have seen some major improvements dude, give urself a big pat on the back! Living here in Miami ... I missing all the good stuff but you reminded me of soo much goodness im missing from home! Id recommend that you try cookin some of the goodness ill come over to Kansas!!! or follow foodsteps of late Anthony Bourdain, u got this Max ... you fckin got this! BTW how the hell you stay in shape with all the food dude!! Id be one fat Americasian!

[@Macoi24]

AYyyy, I was going to go to sleep but I am too pumped up after reading this! This stuff fires me up! Thanks for believing and you are right! we are going to make it! I know you been here for awhile, I do believe I remember your comments from awhile back. I could be mistaken, but I think I am correct.

[@AidanZO305]

Max McFarlin Yes sirr ... I mistaken you for a Georgian, originally from Malaysia and educated in Oklahoma, lived in Illinois and currently in Miami, the capital city of South America so my english radar is a little wacked 😝. Imma follow you all the way to the very tippy top! Go get sum sleep ... u gotta a lotta eating to do in the morning 👏🏼

[@RJ-sd6uc]

Hi Max, u look good having that good good meal. There are several spot good good in Ipoh. Here is my suggestion. 😋 1. Nasi Kandar Pekan Lama 2. Restoran Salim (famous for their fish head curry) 3. Restoran Rahmat They all served good good meal .

[@Macoi24]

Ahhh making me wish I was still there!

[@RJ-sd6uc]

@@Macoi24 maybe some other time but do let me know, when are you coming back, I will bring you myself 😎

[@Macoi24]

That would be amazing! I have no clue what my future plans are right now!

[@RJ-sd6uc]

@@Macoi24 no worries, u will definitely coming back.

[@masmercedes1]

Really love the way you enjoy every bits of our cuisine. You enjoyed eating chillis, spices, sweets. Every state is unique and satisfies you. Stay longer and I'm sure you will be better than some Malaysians pallettes 😄

[@Macoi24]

haha or I will be really fat...ohhhh Malaysia so much good food

[@aesyahizyan4349]

i can't focus.. the way you chewed all the food. so cute 😅😁♥️

[@watyahmad7946]

Woww...you really know how to eat like local..welcome to perak,my state!!😊

[@JohnL-m2l]

Wow! RM10 for squid, chicken, lady's finger, and a salted egg? That's very cheap!

[@Macoi24]

yes! Was tasty too!

[@JohnL-m2l]

@@Macoi24 Omg, you drank all that soy sauce?

[@janicechew5847]

The beauty of Ipoh

[@kabirariffsultan]

Love your show man.....good stuff!!!

[@Macoi24]

🙏🙏🙏

[@theylaughatmynickname4860]

“I can eat something like this when I don’t feel that great or under the weather.” That’s exactly what we do.

[@hassanmusa6375]

Mmmm ! That thick peanut souce, Peanut+sweet+sour+spice+lemon grass. ❤️😋

[@mospeada]

Great one Max! You’re the man!!

[@Macoi24]

thanks brother🙏

[@aninditasakti]

Awesome video, thanks ya for sharing Hope your channel getting bigger and bigger Let’s be connected, friend forever and keep in touch 👍👍👍

[@Macoi24]

lets do it!

[@huggy5832]

Wow.. Nasi ganja.. Marijuana bro.. My hometown ipoh perak

[@adamcs2770]

Your videos are awesome...love them all

[@Macoi24]

thank you very much Ahmad

[@nonameneedspace4985]

Wow im the local people in ipoh..i sure u will miss this moment ever ..good work bro !

[@Macoi24]

Yessss, wish I could have eaten more there!

[@pokekk]

white guy,that use his hand..salute bossku.. :D

[@bildahome]

I dont what that is but having you around to cuddle would be the best thing ever

[@sherryd8084]

New subscriber. Videos are awesome 👍🙂 Thank you.

[@Macoi24]

thanks and welcome to the family!!!

[@shawnwsl]

nooo the road you walking to right now at night theres super great fishballs they sell at night.. and stir fried

[@eng16081]

Hi max,u can try search klang bah kut teh,it’s famous food on malaysia also,now u at ipoh,u can go malaysia other state name SELANGOR (klang),here also have many famous food.thanks for come malaysia and enjoy our malaysia food,good job bro👍

[@Macoi24]

Yess, I know Klang! thanks for the information brother!

[@netgeek77]

You would be a perfect travel companion and a great eating buddy!

[@nimeshawewakumbura7541]

Ur all videos super and mouthwatering. 😋😋😋😋

[@tsheringchomulachenpa6660]

Wahooo all food looks yummy😋😋and keep exploring with new food nd culture...Save journey and takcre.Luv💕ur vlog as always👌👍

[@Macoi24]

❤❤❤

[@beeohel6787]

Nasi Ganga looked beautiful and you do love your sweets great work asusal love from 🇮🇪☘️💕

[@Macoi24]

Ayyyyyyy always feeling the love:)

[@bepopxxx]

Nasi ganja not ganga, ganja=weed/addictive

[@beeohel6787]

@@bepopxxx oh sorry I thought he said ganga my mistake 😂

[@markkrabbenbos7502]

ive been ingesting GANJA for years......always makes my food delicious ..... may not be same same but .......

[@laluna985]

Damn make me hungry midnigh those food 😂😭 ,seem u had good life there , succes dear

[@vincentchin88]

How you not get any sauce splashed on a white tee until today still baffles me!

[@bxnjaminyeo]

Loving your Ipoh vlogs. The food there seems to be more to my liking (at least from what you ate) compared to Penang where it seems to be spicy and "fishy".

[@foong171183]

Wow! That chairs from the 1st restaurant are classic! It's very hard to find that kind of chairs in KL. BTW, next time you should try tau fu fah with cold soya bean drinks. 2 in 1 flavour

[@AngelaEatsTvPickiePalate]

Bean sprout chicken😋 chicken feet my favorite good video, My Dude 👌

[@nurulhuda8146]

Ipoh food is underated city for tourist.. welcome to Perak. 😅🤗

[@zhuabdmatalip6899]

Aite, so I've been a followers to famous food channel in KZbin eg Strictly Dumpling, Mark Wiens, Best Ever Food Review, The Food Ranger, Ria SW, but how come I just discovered this good looking guy channel traveling for food.. Max, you just earn 1 subscriber with no ads skip from me.. Big shout out from Malaysia 🇲🇾

[@Macoi24]

Ayyyyy, welcome to the family! Glad you found the Channel forsure! And the warm welcome is appreciated, I seem to always come back, ha!

[@taboobunny9186]

lol..the tofu fa auntie was shooked when you make your order in Mandarin

[@Macoi24]

haha she was super friendly and funny😂

[@dawnchen8609]

Gosh~ this make me like you more now♡

[@chrischeong8414]

Oh mine, Max, surprised to note that you are speaking mandarin (Chinese language) and Malay ; that’s why you are capable to hunt delicious street food. I envy you!

[@Macoi24]

haha just very little of each!

[@rndm69766]

you hitting up the dope spots , going down on those cili padis like a champ , much love and respect man :)

[@Macoi24]

🙏🙏🙏

[@zazackey90]

Your video is great bro ... Ipoh is my hometown ... Nasi Ganja is one of the iconic food you can try and indulge. but you need to queue long because of many people ...

[@Macoi24]

yesss, that is why I went very early.

[@samloo3695]

Lapaaaarrrrrr .. Nak sikit . Hehe .

[@MakiKinder]

Hello Max! Been a while, and what an extraordnary surprise to came back to ... you are getting very close to the 100k threshold! You are doing a swell job, you soon shall be there. So, Ipoh. Honestly I thought the Ipoh white coffee would be a lot whiter than your mugful there because, well, it's called white. :p I know you tasted (or imagined) "chocolate" in it, but could you actually taste the palm margarine in it? Sounds like bulletproof coffee to me and I'd surely give it a try if I go to Malaysia. Now on to those silky smooth hor fun noodles. Word has it that Ipoh hor fun is made with unfiltered spring water which gives it that distinct sleek goodness. We know, the soup fell short of your expectations (it's wanting in prawns) but can you confirm the quality of the noodles? You've got a funny way of eating skewered food, just stick it into your mouth. Goes to show how young you are and unafraid to stab your palate :) And yes, peanut sauce makes everything better, even burgers when I still ate them. Nasi ganja has such a nice ring to it, and judging from the way you described the flavors, must be really addictive. Thanks for the vivid description, you know we rely on you for that, us naive people otherwise known as the Max Ganjas. :) Strange that the bean sprouts were in a separate plate from the chicken. I thought they would be together. Are they mung bean sprouts? Hogwarts. Now we know you are a Harry Potter Fan. My favorites from this vlog, as usual were the sweet treats: the caramel egg custard, the tau fu fah, and the kaya puff (did they let you in on their little secret as to what that caramelly filling is made of?). Excellent work, Max, and still getting even better!

[@Macoi24]

The filling of the Kaya puff is the actual kaya! Haha how could I not be, my mother is an avid HP fan. Yes, they are the mung beans and some of the best I have ever had! Yeah, the coffee had been cut with so much margarine and sugar that it resembled more of a hot chocolate to me than actual coffee. However, I am usually a black coffee drinker so that could be why, ha. Really great to have you back. Hoping you have been doing well!

[@MakiKinder]

@@Macoi24 A little bird told me Sin Eng Heong kaya paste is not your ordinary coconut jam, there's some recipe the family keeps secret. :) Black coffee's your poison. I prefer my coffee black too; dripped when at home and double espresso when I have the luxury to drink out.

[@ashriqzan8762]

For the nasi ganja... u should go for the ayam merah.. thats the signature... air mata kucing.. and pudding caramel...

[@she2302]

New subs! Love your food videos and review 👌🏻

[@Macoi24]

Ahh, thank you and welcome to the family!

[@zmukhtar13]

you have mastered eating with your hands!!!

[@Macoi24]

haha took me long enough! Feels good to have it down.

[@SyhaDan]

Dude youre making better videos by each day...been wathing since u ate nasi lemak village park

[@Macoi24]

Dannngggggg, haha such a long time ago...or at least feels like it! Yeah learned a lot since then!

[@SyhaDan]

@@Macoi24 a year back...your accent was a bit thick I think, compared to now....Keep up the good work!

[@Macoi24]

@@SyhaDan haha that is so funny to me. I guess I have been away for so long that I am losing my accent a little bit?

[@noraayumustari1274]

Hey max, its been a while i didnt watch some of ur new videos, being busy and so many things going. And hey! Im too just arrived in ipoh last sept. The foods here are mind blowing! This is my 3rd time being in ipoh but never really had the time to really dig in all the cuisines and signature dishes. And i have so much time now for that as i will be here for months. Btw, ur vlogs are so much cooler now, and its growing 👍 glad u came back and had all the chance to really taste our foods all around the country. U even been to my hometown johor bahru ! I missed that crunchy fried banana with that sambal kicap u ate, my fav ever! Stay cool, stay healthy, and keep vlogging! Ur good! P.s. -- 'Nasi ganja' when translated directly literally means 'weed rice' 🤭 lol

[@Macoi24]

yes, well welcome back! YEah, I got to do a really cool and long trip through Malaysia which was really nice!! Thanks for the kind words! Really nice of you!

[@ganazzer1]

As for the satay, you should try the satay in Baung, Kota Bharu, Kelantan. One of the best satay for me.

[@kelibisangler6482]

Hi bro..new subscriber here..okaylah.. One of the best food review..kipidap bro!

[@Macoi24]

welcome to the family!

[@kongtoch9715]

Been a long time since I have heard you play a melody when you are getting ready to eat, and then gradually let the song get to the takeoff point and just let the beat DROP when you realize that the food is bomb. Hope that I get to see/hear it again next time you get that experience:) Still have a hard time believing that you don’t have more views and subscribers. You deserve so much more Max!

[@Macoi24]

Heyyyyy AZN always good to hear from you! But it is all good because we are getting there! Slowly building the following! haha I got some good videos from Thailand coming soon:)

[@kongtoch9715]

Max McFarlin Slowly but steady. I like that:) Can’t wait for the Thailand series bud! I’m so happy to see that you already have such a loyal core of viewers, and I’m not surprised. You are the MASTER of including your fans by communicating with us. Appreciate it so much🙏 You just put out the videos and we will raise the view count:) Safe travels bro!

[@Macoi24]

Of course. No matter how much I grow, my fans are family and I will always try my best to reply!

[@simplyme3306]

gobsmacked by your mandarin!!! Hope you tried their famous salt baked chicken. Super love it last time we tried it. We bought it up to Cameron Highlights to eat!

[@Macoi24]

Yeah, but I didnt film it. Just had it on a day where I wasn't filming! Haha I only know very little which seem to be all food words hahaha

[@simplyme3306]

@@Macoi24 well food words are good enough 😄

[@someonewife8382]

It looks so yummmmmmsss! + tea ais please 😁

[@Mr8961]

Max ive been watching your food tour to Malaysia the way you enjoy our food make me going out to eat from tony Malaysia

[@Macoi24]

yesss, when I leave...I always think about when can I come back haha

[@xuanqi4272]

I’m Malaysian and I don’t even eat chicken feet 😂😂😂 you’re really Malaysian as hell Max!! Haahahah

[@Macoi24]

hahaha. Chicken feet in black bean sauce is the greatest.

[@vince_1018]

Compare to ipoh nasi ganja n penang deen maju... Which do you prefer n feel is the best??

[@Macoi24]

I think they are both phenomenal. I think there are things about each which I prefer. Example: Ganja sambal, better fried chicken. DM: Curries, fried onions, onion and egg

[@thunderlei1851]

Wow Max, didn't know you speak Mandarin too! I had to replay the part where you were ordering dou jiang. Your vlog is helping me a lot in planing my bday trip to Penang. More power to you! :)

[@lenakhaw8875]

Just FYI, the famous kai si hor fun in that coffee shop opens at 1000am or 1030am. If you are still there go try it, they have prawns in it. And it’s really good.

[@Macoi24]

you are my hero. You answered my question!!!

[@lenakhaw8875]

If you have sweet tooth, try this peanut candy Ming Yue Confectionery 50, Jalan Peh Kee Koh, Taman Kampar, 31650 Ipoh, Perak 012-4631862 017-5533665 05-2554128 They are opened at 0930hr but be prepared to queue. Enjoy

[@Macoi24]

I was there during a long weekend and the line was insane! So I didnt make it this trip!

[@pulangtuldok]

Charm upped way up with the glasses baby. 😘😘😘

[@mz6228]

Owh gosh... Really missed nasi ganja.. ouhh....

[@ricardotongol567]

Hellooooo Max in orange red shirt. Early is better you get to choice the best coffee and delis food hot and spicy. Omg noodles whoa no prawn and not chicken flavor. Again love the way you eat, makes me hungry. Whoa, your shirt turned to white. Like the glasses on you. This time I’m prepared I have a Chinese daibow to eat while you eat. Great blog Max. I missed three other posted blog. Got to watch them after this one. My system crashed. Your getting to be a pro eating with your hands 🤗🤗

[@Macoi24]

haha I just need to keep practicing so I can become that pro!! I want it!!! lolz

[@kevintan4321]

Haha, Max, you are awesome!

[@SweetAntapaniFarm]

The satay with peanut saus is make my tummy hungry..my mouth watering

[@didiklah811]

What... Wahttttt.. 4 days a week, 4 hours a day! Oh boy, must be a 5 star meal.

[@alifakbarfatullah]

Congratulations 🎊 100k friends🌹🌹🌹 What you Still at malaysia? Yammy and delecius 💖 💖 💖 Succes forever for you friends God bless you always

[@Macoi24]

nope, had to leave but I have one more Malaysia video

[@nina-rm3fw]

because you eat with the malay traditional way of eating, im your new subscriber!

[@Macoi24]

yay, welcome to the family!

[@jasmelmcgauran4835]

I'm glad you were explained about the ganja 😂😂😂 Was worried when I saw the headline 😂😂😂

[@Macoi24]

hahaha that is funny😂

[@Serotonin101]

You mix the nasi ganja like a boss.

[@Macoi24]

yesssirrrrr! lets gooooo!

[@qhalifqhalifah6182]

Highly recommended Itik Salai Masthar, Jalan Sungai Ramal Dalam , Kampung Sungai Ramal Dalam, Kajang Selangor