Lol why does everybody call car parts from ebay, ebay parts as if ebay is a brand?
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Sure, it's not a brand, but you understand what is trying to be conveyed right? What would you suggest otherwise? "Budget chinese designed and manufactured internet distributed products"?
@Norrr37 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport lol yeah bro I understand I was just speaking in general . Great video btw 🤙🏾
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nor! :)
@JzLyfe6 жыл бұрын
Nor To the 3rd they usually say ebay parts or eBay coilovers, when the part is cheap. but if I bought say a greddy turbo off eBay I say I bought it on eBay instead of eBay turbo you know.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
dsmrace gets it!
@piffjar797 жыл бұрын
Hate to bust the the bubble on all you who drop the cost of a car on coilovers, even those are made in China by whole or part, hell, that $1000 iPhone you went broke buying? It was made in China, small town outside of Shanghai, so saying something is crap because it's made in China doesn't always ring true anymore, just means the company that made it, cut manufacturing cost
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Funny you mention iPhones, how many people will be happy to queue up for the latest iPhone and fork out $1000 for that, but then they call me an idiot for suggesting cheaping out on poorly made suspension for their car is a bad idea. Anyhoo, yes I can appreciate that MANY things are made in China, but they are often still engineered, tested and assembles properly... not just "chinese copies and built as cheap as possible" which is what these coilovers are.
@imnota6 жыл бұрын
Big difference between "built in china" and "built & engineered in china" parts engineered in china are mostly crap, because they try to cut down on prices too much and end up cheaping out on stuff they shouldn't. Plus they're pretty bad at engineering.
@dabeardsmen36216 жыл бұрын
Quentin Adams yes all that and more he’ll im starting to think I was made in China lmao.
@sinformant6 жыл бұрын
@@imnota they may be bad at engineering, but they sure can reverse engineer like a pro 😂😂😂
@mi16t6 жыл бұрын
Quentin Adams iphones are made in Shenzhen, which is HUGE, not a small town outside of Shanghai, clueless betty
@crazy8sdrums6 жыл бұрын
When you describe the ride feel of those coilovers as 'crashy', I suspect that has more to do with the mx5 being older with wearing suspension parts. The new springs are likely stiffer and it is revealing the weaknesses of the car's aging suspension. Older cars do rattle more. I experienced similar on my AW11 MR2 when I upgraded to high quality lowering springs and struts. Replacing many of the worn out bushings helped out a lot with that. It seems like those ebay coilovers werent that bad of a deal.
@ekklesiaillusion6 жыл бұрын
Same deal. I got some cheaper coilovers for my TL - turned out being the control arms, every rubber, etc. That made the most difference!
@lpatierno846 жыл бұрын
There's no cushion like the factory struts top hat so they're more harsh. Given that and the increased spring rate.
@Kevin-im2ri5 жыл бұрын
Swap out the top hats with stock if possible 🙊
@charlesosbun93815 жыл бұрын
This guy is going to wear out the throw out bearing by keeping his hand on the shifter!
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
It's funny how people claim it's the car, or the bushes, or the driver... yet i swap out the shitty coilovers from some good ones and suddenly it rides beautifully.
@DolphinDivingChamp6 жыл бұрын
HOW TO GET GOOD QUALITY "EBAY" PARTS!!!! So China does this thing called stealing intellectual property of people who want to manufacture in china. So how this works is I can buy a brand new 7" intercooler direct from VRSF (but this could be any other car part) for $700. They manufacture this part in China for probably around $125. The reason they charge $700 is they have to pay for the R&D it took to design that part. But china comes along and steals there design and makes that same exact part unbranded and sells them in china. Some of those unbranded parts end up for sale on sites like ebay, AliExpress, ect. So moral of the story, you can get very good quality parts from eBay at huge discounts, but your hurting the companies who R&Ded that product. So there are some quality parts on eBay, just gotta know where to look.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
This is very true Dolphin, although at least in this case we can rest assured that china didn't come up with a copy of anything of quality... as these were really disappointing coilovers.
@MafiZed6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the cunts did it to me
@KaitouKaiju6 жыл бұрын
They also cost more because defective units are rejected, bringing up the total cost of manufacture. With the cheap stuff you never know what you're going to get, and they often change something (lower quality materials, etc) to make it cheaper.
@josephbrayton79026 жыл бұрын
they would be perfect for a shitty drift missile on a budget
@biohazardKandiKid6 жыл бұрын
This is so true people need to stop saying that you should only buy from a real name when the Chinese names are real also you assholes what there fake names no there real just not fox greddy HKS bbs or something but they are real names
@AX-xi2pw6 жыл бұрын
My experiences with these coilovers on Lexus IS200: Cons: Two of the coilover bodies (the part with the threads) is too long which means either the front or the rear doesn't go as low without lowering the preload below 0. The top hat for the rear doesnt line up perfectly with the body so you have to file a millimeter out of the hole in the shock tower to fit it trough. Lacks the stock mounting brackets for ABS sensor wire, so you have to ziptie this on. The threads are coated steel. The lower body is also coated steel. It does rust after a while. Mine are now seized. The shocks leak fluid and it fills up the rubber boot. Pros: Probably the only coilovers for under 250 bucks which provide - Top hats - Separate preload and height adjustment It's not bad for the price, that said you do get what you pay for.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Hey AX53, thanks for taking the time to share your experience! Certainly sounds like your experience match my suspicions that these are pretty poor quality, despite looking good for the price. Thanks for watching!
@steviednb5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a video made by a a guy who’s dropped thousands on coil overs before and couldn’t possibly fathom something cheaper being anywhere near as good. Was so negative about the whole thing before he even started.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry if you don't agree but for my use they were genuinely terrible. I was only negative about their performance because they were shit, they are cheap crap. Just because that is a fact, doesn't make me negative, it makes the product junk. Don't hate me when the product was at fault.
@pedrofernandez38935 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis Scotty Kilmer had the same issue with the ones he got to try out on his wife's Lexus ES300, she even noticed how poorly the car rode with the new ones, so he ended up putting the old ones back on. I had a similar issue with aftermarket, cheap motor mounts I got for my Corolla. It was like using hockey pucks as replacements.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
@@pedrofernandez3893 Thanks for sharing Pedro. :-)
@thekofianderson5 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis Watch the video again... Good video but clearly biased from the get go. The video was just to validate your opinion formed even before you ordered those coilovers. I'm not saying the parts are great, or not... just that your assessment wasnt impartial
@aroundtheworld47855 жыл бұрын
@@thekofianderson dude, it's like taking Eric Clapton to task for being "biased from the get-go" when asked to review a $100 plywood guitar. Of course he is gonna be biased. He has high standards and he's reviewing an obviously questionable product. This isn't a review for anybody. This is a channel all about motorsports and high-performance driving. It's for people looking to get good handling and perhaps tempted to skimp on their suspension. These coilovers are the $100 plywood guitar of the coilover world. Look decent. Sound like shit.
@CrazyGunNoob5 жыл бұрын
I bet if they had Tein or Megan sticker on them, he wouldn't know the difference lmfao
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
I have Megan coilovers in my white MX-5. Trust me, there is a huge difference.
@baronvonlimbourgh17165 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis yeah the stickers ;)
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 If you say so mate.
@baronvonlimbourgh17165 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis sure there is a huge difference. It would be pretty bad if f there wasn't really. But does that actually matter? It is just an elitist mentality in car culture. Like they are with hifi, and in whiskey and with wines. Some people act like only top of the line stuff is worthy of concideration. If i wanna get drunk i buy cheap alcohol. I am not looking to annalize and wonder what flavours and aromas there are in my boxed wine. And some people just want their car to have a low stance and that is what they buy them for. Most people i know don't have a clue anyway how their car should drive. How often i notice bad shocks, half flat tires and bad alignments on peoples cars when im riding with them is astonishing. And they never even noticed and still have no idea what i am talking about when i point it out. They got used to it and it is part of their car I much rather see people buying this then slamming their car down with some cheap lowering springs and then just keep riding their bouncy castle with no shocks left whatsoever. At least this is safe and a better ride then a lot of peoples stock cars that i know. It is all relative and you need to see things in a bit of context.. Some never even notice a broken spring or even a flat tire.
@t_z10305 жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 "Does it really matter?" For the people who just want to slam their car, no. For those of us who actually care about how our cars drive on the track, absolutely yes. Frankly, I'm amazed at how defensive people are getting over these cheap pieces of garbage. I don't get it. They perform exactly as their price suggests. Where's the controversy exactly?
@jasongano12105 жыл бұрын
He got beat launching his car by a 4 door sedan just accelerating normally. That's really sad
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
It's not sad. The car is a tiny little MX-5, it has less power than my grandmas corolla!
@alfaholic35 жыл бұрын
You do realise that car is quite possibly a LS V8 and plenty fast even if its just the V6.
@SANTANA1deep5 жыл бұрын
You don't even drive, kid. You'll understand it one day.
@Dragon2288335 жыл бұрын
HeartofTacoma I drive a Miata. It’s pretty sad when I’m accelerating “hard” but going slower than a grandma in a Toyota Camry
@arzdaman5 жыл бұрын
Looked like a saab I could be wrong but saabs are mostly turbo cars
@alpalchevskiy38867 жыл бұрын
had ebay coilover on my S13, loved them. 1/3 of a price of real coils. Didn't notice difference in the ride quality from brand name coils. And I didn't buy my S13 for the ride quality in the first place
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear they are working for you Al
@Raptor4fx5 жыл бұрын
I've thought of doing the same. I only need 1" drop on my GS300
@brendanmay85275 жыл бұрын
I've had bcs, racelands, eBays, etc etc. Honestly.. there's really no different other than adjustable dampening.. lol
@jaybelurkin4 жыл бұрын
@@brendanmay8527 Exactly.. lol.. But even in the car community you have the "boogie" guys 😂 We dont kick it with these guys, we just smoke them and their $2k coilovers on the freeway 🤣
@fiisho4 жыл бұрын
@@brendanmay8527 Have you tried Ohlins?
@themanthelegend70485 жыл бұрын
China cuts 20% of pricing with brown boxes alone.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@baronvonlimbourgh17165 жыл бұрын
20 percent of your paycheck ends in the recycle bin the moment you come home. Everybody hauling around expensive trash so they can throw it away as soon as they walk in the door. Most of our trash has seen more of the world then we ever will.
@madcatterz57536 жыл бұрын
Dude your just reaching to have a problem with them, this whole video your just looking for any excuse. I bought eBay coil overs and honest to god no problem. And I have them adjusted to what I needed and they work perfect for my mazda 3
@kidcaspertv26985 жыл бұрын
how are they holding up, planning to get some for my Civic FD, I live in the philippines so I earn next to nothing lmao, ebay coilovers will cost me my 2 week paycheck but I need em, lemme know my dude
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Hi Tino, how are your coilovers going now?
@jopievanvliet71315 жыл бұрын
Why waste 2500 on a cheap car.. These are well enough for the car.
@fiisho4 жыл бұрын
Have you drove a car with couple thousand dollar coil overs? If so you would know the difference.
@MrTherandomvidsguy4 жыл бұрын
Respond about the update on those shitty coilovers or fuck off. I'm sure they was replaced with something else.
@NotSpaceCadet5 жыл бұрын
He tried so hard to hate on China and specially the “maxspeed” thing. Unnecessary.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
It is necessary when the coilovers are utter shite.
@brassmonkeegaming85834 жыл бұрын
No he didn't... BEAVIS provided MULTIPLE good points, which, I think even suprised him... The fact a company couldn't even keep consistancy, just shows what utter shite they are.
@jmorin2270 Жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis they really are junk but if your in the hood there gold
@331whf96 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that this guy still gets a Clunky crashy feeling even to this day
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Not anymore, I installed some Bilsteins :-)
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
@Sean Price Yep, thanks for your opinion Sean.
@shanesteffey11395 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis your money bro, spend it how u like and screw everyone elses opinion. :p
@dennisrobinson80083 жыл бұрын
Cayse he didn't set spring preload.
@ryanvaldez20597 жыл бұрын
BC Racing coilovers are definitely not cheep coilovers 😂😂😂😂
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
In terms of a quality coilover that actually works, yes they are. It's all relative. You can easliy pay over $5000 or more for coilovers.... so $1200 or less for BC's is cheap.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
For motorsport applications, even at an amateur level, $5-10k suspension setups are pretty common.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
BigNVeiny knows whats up!
@TrueNomadSkies6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you're also limited by what's even being made for your vehicle. BC Racing is one of the few companies that makes em for a PT Cruiser, so they've been on my "list" for possible options.
@Ieatpeople26 жыл бұрын
TrueNomadSkies i feel you there. most of the cars ive owned have a very limited aftermarket parts selection, so actually finding stuff that bolts right up is like a miracle lol
@CarsnStuff6 жыл бұрын
surprisingly i actually like my ebay coil overs ( cx-racing ). however i have not had high end coil overs. i simply was switching from my stock ones to these. They are 32 way adjustable, you can fully adjust preload etc. I actually love the feel of them. i have them with just a bit of preload and they arent favorite stiff or hard i just based it off going all the way hard and then 16 clicks out to be basically in the middle of soft and hard setting and then gradually worked a couple clicks towards hard. But i noticed right off the bat the steering actually seemed easier as if it required less effort to turn in at higher speeds. i also noticed much less body roll as the car felt like it was more flat instead of wanting to tilt in turns. and it actually handles bumps well. The car entirely is more predictable and steady in the canyons which is my primary style of driving. i've had them on the car for 3 years and they don't make any bad sounds, nothing has broken or come out of alignment. and i honestly would buy them again for a different car.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Hey Review Guy, thanks for taking the time to write. Glad to hear the CX-racing gear is working well. What car do you have them in?
@CarsnStuff6 жыл бұрын
People give me crap for this haha but i have them in my mkiv toyota supra. but i honestly have no issues with them so i have no regrets with using a affordable set of coil overs for that car. I mean don't get me wrong if i could id buy a nice high end set of coil overs for it. The thing is though.. not all of us who own supras are exactly financially stable or wealthy. Its funny because people automatically assume that if you have a supra you must spend top dollar on them or nothing at all. but at the end of the day... its still a toyota.
@Big_LosF6 жыл бұрын
I got these installed professionally. No complaints here, no clunking at all, great purchase for them, I feel them to be actually decent an drive well.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear they worked out OK for you carlos!
@konstantinoskallitsounakis3572 жыл бұрын
Hey Carlos did they manage to lower your car evenly and more than the rear ones on the video?
@konstantinoskallitsounakis3572 жыл бұрын
@carlos got any photos from the new height?
@kevinmontoya73182 жыл бұрын
I actually bet that this guy adjusted the shock tension while the coilovers were mounted, hence the clunking from the loose springs
@absolutryhard41154 жыл бұрын
I had these in my car for 2 years. Lower my car 4 inches and rode great way better then stock. No rattles or anything at all car also only had 100,000 miles. I also only paid 300 for mine
@Bbeavis4 жыл бұрын
What car do you have them on?
@IkarosCanFly6 жыл бұрын
I have those same brand coilovers for my VW GTI mk3 and they've been working fine for me for 2 years so far. They took almost a month to settle in and smooth out. But I haven't had any rattles or loss in dampening. They were really clunky for about a month tho. In my opinion, for a daily driver they are fine, but I would never expect them to hold up on the track. The coil itself holds up just fine but its hard to go wrong with a coil unless it snaps or changes geometry. The only thing that is lacking about them is the dampener. On mine the dampener and lower mount are one piece but on you're the dampener is a separate piece which I think is a good thing because you could just buy better dampeners that have the same threading and upgrade your coilovers. Also I had the same paperwork as you and where it says that the dampener is adjustable at the top its not true. Mine said the same thing but spinning that rod does nothing to the dampening.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Technician, appreciate the heads up. Glad to hear they are working ok for you.
@bwompy12945 жыл бұрын
Anyone else see him lose a race during that "launch"?
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
350hp V8 vs 100hp mazda, not really a "race" haha
@JOSHTHExCREATOR4 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport you right , more like a slaughterhouse lol
@helmhurst4 жыл бұрын
LMFAO he did say he was in 1.6 ffs
@tx5brent4 жыл бұрын
That Commodore looks like an LS2 powered Clubsport, he's driving a stock 1.6 MX5, what the hell else do you expect?
@marmo_tv20493 жыл бұрын
i thought it went suprisingly good agaisnt the clubby lol
@mowcee16 жыл бұрын
Just got these for my Civic, and installed them a week ago. They're definitely on a softer side compared to coilover sleeves (Ground Control) I've had in the past. But they're still stiff... Like, they absorb bumps very well without having a race-car-like ride. The ride quality isn't "jarring", its not so stiff where make it would make you cringe, It's very comfortable an smooth. There was a moment where another Civic was next to me on the highway (most likely on sleeved coilovers on possibly blown shocks) an was bouncing like crazy... looked like he was saddling a horse, while mine was a lot lower in height, an was completely still... floating on the road cruising 70mph, absorbing the road perfectly. These don't bounce at all, an I made sure they were preloaded before I installed. Some may not want a soft ride on a drift car / track car, but for a daily street car it's perfect imo. I love these.
@javito00815 жыл бұрын
I have these , how do you make them not bounce ? Does bounce mean blown shocks?
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear, how are they holding up DSM?
@AJ-gq3jl4 жыл бұрын
He is making an honest and transparent review on a cheap set of coil overs. I do not see anything wrong with that and most of the youtubers praising this shithole product have been sponsored as nothing negative is stated or just a minor con is told. Im glad BEAVIS has made a video on these coilovers as I am now more knowledgable that 'cheap coil overs are not the way to go if you are after a quality product', therefore, buying a genuine cheap set for $1200 will allow for decent quality and will last for many years to come.
@Bbeavis4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words Cyax, I appreciate your respectful perspective.
@nickb70407 жыл бұрын
I got some of these because they where cheaper than the oem shocks springs. I replaced everything arms ball joints track rod ends the lot. I lowered by only 1 inch cause its for a honda accord workhorse not a racer. 200k miles on the clock. I got a non camber non damper adjustable set. It says it has a pillow joint but its a rubber bushing. Not sure how or why but lemme tell u this. Its absolutely beautiful to drive now. No noises whatever and its just right stiffness. Maybe twice the oem but it takes the bumps beautiful no clunks nothing. I lowered by 30mm only as I don't care about cosmetics. I guess time will tell
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Nice work man, thanks for watching :)
@DIYStangsandFreedom7 жыл бұрын
mike hunt would you say the ride quality is better than lowering springs or the infamous "cut springs"
@nickb70407 жыл бұрын
Ride quality is good. Stiffer through the bends not to bad over the bumps. I changed all of the arms and ball joints too. Installing these with worn arms / ball joints will amplify any noises coming from those worn parts. That said be sure to tighten the top strut nuts as they came loose after 1 week !... the company also sent the wrong rear shocks. They sent shocks for the saloon model not the estate despite me giving the the reg and specifying estate. The company did give me a partial refund and il flog them on, but I have to say the company hasn't a clue what its doing saying things like "can u modify them on" when the suspension is completely different on the rear lol
@DIYStangsandFreedom7 жыл бұрын
mike hunt thanks for your input. I know , it's seems like your talking to a robot when you need customer service. I was asking them questions on eBay and they seemed kinda retarded, but they gave me a good price for the set.
@thatswrek6 жыл бұрын
Angel Martinez cut springs aren't bad at all as long as u have good. Struts but they do wear the struts out quicker
@MRMAN-wb1tv2 жыл бұрын
*The comment section is hilarious! At least 95% of the comments are telling him that HE was the problem, and not the coilovers* 😂😂😂
@Bbeavis2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I like your comment. It seems I upset a few people with my silly little video.
@bilbobaggins59622 жыл бұрын
because it ISNT the coilovers.. this guy is a total effin moron
@Opiti722 жыл бұрын
I do agree with you. I think he was very bias since the beginning, the whole "Speeding or Peeding" thing was hilarious 🤣 The same with the packaging. If you are buying a very affordable/low entry product, don't expect a Macbook Pro packaging style...come on buddy, those things were very well protected, as you said it correctly, what else would you expect? What that said, some info in the review was useful. In fact I am about to order this kit for an old project car that is on a budget...I hope I don't get the crashy ride though...I will give it a try. The well known coilovers are definitely over priced, so I am going with the Chinese Peeding version 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway, thanks for the video Beavis.
@soosshant7 жыл бұрын
Iv ran those coil overs on my s13 for about 1.5 years and I haven't had any of these problem that thump is you not having the right preload setting and or your coil over not being tight at the top.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
I suspect the manufacturer never tested these coilovers on a car as light as the miata. Please note that spring preload does not alter ride quality, the spring rate is constant. And i can assure you they were 'tight at the top'. The poor ride is a result of bad design and lack of testing of the dampening rate in relation to the spring rate and vehicle geometry.
@the_daily_dissident6 жыл бұрын
I suspect that too. They did not properly test them on many models of vehicles. Some have success with these, and some people don't. I personally tried every thing to make them stop making noise, (tightened the top fastener, all the nuts at the top mount, camber bolts, preload all that, pretty much everything, I have installed quality coil overs before and never had issues as much as I had with these! Took them off after a day of wasting time and swearing. Ive also heard that some people have received the wrong sets (rear set not aligning etc) so just do your research beforehand.
@John.strong7 жыл бұрын
You know your cars slow then a stock looking eco tec commo takes you off the lights
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
That is MX-5 life.... :)
@dylanpolewarczyk50176 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a comment like this lmao. He made noooo comment on that either haha
@OhPhuckYou6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping I was not the only one that noticed that! Lmao
@MartinZoneAtack6 жыл бұрын
When "launching" , but I'm sure he doesn't have as much fun as we do driving Miatas 😌
@mattevans16435 жыл бұрын
Take that miata through a curvy road and you'll know the enjoyment of driving one. That's what they were built for. Not drag racing.
@andrewlowe11985 жыл бұрын
They only make that clunking noise if the springs are tightened too much. I've had these on my 4g eclipse since I've bought it and have no problems. U should research how to adjust them before making a review
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, I'm sorry but I am not sure I agree. I have every confidence that they were correctly setup, and that spring preload does not induce a bad ride. Perhaps your eclipse is better suited to these coilovers than a smaller MX-5 Miata.
@yourleafyourlife57344 жыл бұрын
I had them.on my.5th gen.prelude I just sold, and my new car is a 1992 prelude. Guess what's going on them??!! MAXPEEDINGRODS! for 200 bucks, you cant go.wrong. One thing I noticed is the( pivotball?) on the front ones makes a lot of noise... so this time 8m going to.pavk them with some kind of grease that isn't harmful to the rubber.
@El_Chompo5 жыл бұрын
It's funny how you keep mentioning how the packaging was rough and quick but effective. I would take that as a compliment if I was the Chinese manufacturer. They ride that razor edge so perfectly of cutting corners and being as janky and rough as possible, while still giving an expected level of quality and utility when all is said and done. It is innovative and skillful and it's part of the reason they dominate the world with merchandise. Why take the extra costly man hours and expensive resources of having perfectly cut and custom shaped nice foam inserts to protect during shipping, when they have a bunch of random foam strips left over that they could just cut up. They are making the best out of what is around them and thinking on the fly effectively. As for the maXpeedingrods (and I love that name it's the only thing I've ever considered getting tattooed on my body because I just think it's that good) I have had a set on my Matrix now for a few years and they finally wore out but they were great for the years they worked and I don't blame them for wearing out I drove them through harsh vermont winters with salted roads and terrible construction bumps and bridge joints. But 200 dollars to last your suspension for 2 or 3 years is actually an acceptable price if you just considered them wearable parts. The rears still work the fronts have just locked up from corrosion and dirt and salt and debris. I just ordered a replacement set and plan on just unfortunately putting my stock suspension in for the winter this winter. Even though it looks ridiculous with 5 inch fender height gaps with the stock stuff. It's just not worth ruining the lowering susp.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you had a positive experience with them sirgallium :-)
@brassmonkeegaming85834 жыл бұрын
Most manufacturer suspension can and does last the life of the car, so $200 for suspension to only last 2 years, is in fact, shite.
@yamahamer895 жыл бұрын
Expensive coilovers ride harsh too.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps. Or then perhaps they are just overpriced.
@fueledgti5 жыл бұрын
But the valving and the way they handle bump and rebound is far beyond that of cheaper coilovers. Bilstein pss9 and Öhlins Road and track are fine examples of this
@krusher745 жыл бұрын
If "expensive" high quality coilover also ride harsh for you, you got the wrong spring rates for the driving your doing and/or have the damping set up wrong
@baronvonlimbourgh17165 жыл бұрын
Not if you use proper springs for your car and the driving you do. If you just use whatever comes standard with the kit you will have a shitty ride indeed. Things do not have to be that way though.
@baronvonlimbourgh17165 жыл бұрын
@@fueledgti bilstein pss9s are way to bumpy. Had them on my rs6 and the back got launched into the air everytime i took a speed bump faster then 3 miles an hour. And the car was barely lower then stock. Never got them to work properly. Went back to koni sports and like them a lot more. Then again, maybe i just got a bad set or something. Who knows.
@christophernagy56035 жыл бұрын
You can also stiffen or soften the ride by adjusting the damping, just need take off the cap on the top and turn it to the left. Very easy to do and that will definitely help the ride immensely... To adjust the damping to be softer, turn the adjusting knob counter clock-wise. To make the damping stiffer, turn the adjusting knob clock-wise.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Actually, these coilovers have no damper adjustment.
@pmm41775 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at a set of tein street basis Z and they're $550 US with no top hat, you have to use the stock top hat, the next step up the flex model is pushing $800 USD. Like the other comment, just because it's made in China doesn't mean it's cheaply made because most of everything you get is from China weather it's shipped to your local store and you buy it there or you buy it directly from China and it's shipped to you it was still loaded in a shipping container and sent to your country. There is a difference between cheap and inexpensive
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying "made in china" mean's it's crap. I'm saying that made, designed and "QC'd" in china means it's crap. There's a difference between a good brand with real engineering and RnD that made in china to a crappy chinese knock off.
@skizodgo54405 жыл бұрын
If you go into a situation expecting the worse, you’ll get the worse. You can’t expect to be pleased if you weren’t seeking it in the first place
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
A bit like the comments in KZbin haha!
@Kalisto20026 жыл бұрын
The issue i had where one of mine was clunking is because i didn't tighten the top nut(On the strut) when it was on the ground and a small drive was all it took for the clunking to get much louder. Tighten while on the ground
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you got that resolved Kalisto!
@lpatierno846 жыл бұрын
I have these on my 2011 GT. They're the adjustable dampening ones and they work quite well. Valving and spring rate seem spot on to give a firm ride but not overly harsh. I do have an issue with one of my pillow balls binding then popping though. Minor inconvenience for the $230 USD I paid for them 🤣
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
What 2011 GT are you referring to exactly?
@RetroBeatsUK Жыл бұрын
its a pillow bearing, grease it and the knock stops, plus they have to bed in for bout a month then readjust.
@earlmoorhead55555 жыл бұрын
I’ve been running these cheap coil over kit for 6 years now but you need the upgraded shock option for dampening 32 wat adjustments for an additional 150.00 all around makes all the difference in ride quality! When I installed them ppl said there crap but my opinion is for street use not track use there perfect they haven’t leaked or gone bad in 40 k 6 years on my 2001 Bmw 330i sedan been perfect !!
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen an adjustable option for the MX-5 Miata.
@earlmoorhead55555 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport idk about the miata I believe they do I have my kit on my KZbin channel e46
@AlphaFlight7 жыл бұрын
Trying to make something sound bad. When it really isn't.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Oh Adrian, trust me, they really are bad, I had to remove them from the car.
@hazemdrift7 жыл бұрын
I bought my e36 with racelands and i know the feeling he's talking about. It's pretty bad. BC coilovers were one of the first things I bought for my car. They were worth it for sure. I'd much rather do bilstein shocks with h&r springs over any coilovers under $1k.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Hazem, finally someone who understands decent suspension! :)
@censordeez6 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport if you had to remove them, why are you telling people in these comments that you’ll post a follow up video on them “after putting a few more miles on the car”? Just curious
@the_daily_dissident6 жыл бұрын
He is right guys, these are absolutely not worth the time money or effort! I had them on my Corolla for not even one day. Save your money and invest in either lowered springs, with new shocks, or invest in a much higher quality brand, if you really love your car. These cause so much noise and rattle when you turn, regardless of how much you adjust them, put grease, etc. Come back and tell me I am right after you try them out. That is if they send the right ones.
@Kyster586 жыл бұрын
Saying coilovers are soft there not meant to be soft there meant to be stiff and keep the car stiff
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
I didn't say they need to be soft, but they should be compliant and comfortable, they aren't meant to be crashy.
@Brock_Landers7 жыл бұрын
I have these on my 500 whp Civic and they're terrible, but a damn sight better than the POS sleeve eBay coilovers, and they match my control arms and rear tie brace. I have a family, so even though I have such a crazy engine, I still have to watch what I spend on certain items and the eBay coilovers were a cheap way to have an adjustable ride height without keeping my blown struts and ditching the lowering springs.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Wow, the only question I have is... how can you invest in your engine enough to have a 500hp civic and cheap out so much on coilovers? Perhaps some second hand brand name coilovers would have been a good alternative?
@nikosraptis19857 жыл бұрын
I have exactly that coilovers on my stock EK civic ! They are worse than the stock 18 years old suspension !!!! AVOID !!!!
@robbob16547 жыл бұрын
Just a guess but I'm guessing the engine was before the family lol
@rafaelespin7 жыл бұрын
Epic 500 whp ..... eBay coilovers
@damianlindsey61777 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport because he probably did what most every other car guy I know does...spend an ungodly amount of money on the engine and cheap out on everything else. I did the same thing on my e30 318i. Spent 4000 dollars on ls1-6speed swap and left the rest of the car bone stock....for 2 weeks. Ended up having to do everything short of dropping a different car onto the drivetrain. Better rear diff, axles, m3 brakes, blah blah...I have way more tied up into this BMW than it ever was or will be worth but its a lightweight and now very fast car.
@Soooperspeed6 жыл бұрын
remember .. 90 percent of all the high branded things you buy actually get manufactured in the same place as the ebay china parts and then marked up massively to sell in Europe and USA .. the china based company's come to deals with the manufacturing too make them cheaper if they can use the parts in non make parts too .. this is super common most of the china car parts are actually good and not hurting the company's who do the research and development as they get that back from the 1% in the first burst of sales , the rest is just profit .. its only since trading via china has opened up more that we see the vast difference in what we got and what they have , also saving money on the packing is fine i would rather a box and some paper filler than a 200 dollar case they come in that i will never use past the first 10 mins of opening it .. also your driving an older car that was not designed to be on the type of coilovers you bought so will feel unusual . nothing will ever feel like OEM they would be worn in and loose at the time you got the car so softer and more forgiving . you can emulate that by getting some coilovers that have adjustable damping and pre charge rates as well as running the spring longer to allow it to bed(break in) .
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching soooooooperspeed
@samfreshly53317 жыл бұрын
18:50 hahaha that commy racing you at the lights, so typical 😂
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was intentional :-P
@KenDoit7 жыл бұрын
you got Chopped! by a honda civic 1.7L LOL
@KenDoit7 жыл бұрын
or is it a honda civic?
@ShadowScope2406 жыл бұрын
Ken D no it’s a Holden commodore
@aussieguy10126 жыл бұрын
Holden commodore.Is this guy aussie or kiwi?
@oBseSsIoNPC6 жыл бұрын
It would be appropriate to check the coil overs after the ride and see if you can spot the reason for the clunk. Since there shouldn't be a noise at all, even a poor quality shock system does not make noises, unless the rubber bushings are utter garbage. I did have some real cheap Mexican built shocks where you could hear the damper valves, THAT was annoying and no good. Perhaps the rear springs are too stiff, are you sure the rating and the preload are correct? Spring adjustments only do that much, the actual spring is where it's at. Also, avoid bottoming out the damper rod by adjusting the spring too low.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Hey Obsession, These are genuinely just crappy quality and the unnerving noises are a direct result of poor quality and lack of real testing by the manufacturer. Preload has no effect on spring rate or ride quality. Thanks for watching!
@oBseSsIoNPC6 жыл бұрын
roger that, thanks for the update.
@da737 жыл бұрын
It says right there on the customer service card "Also known as maxspeedingrods".
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
:-)
@dinudaniel2616 жыл бұрын
F***ing useless piece of junks...max speed rods i think are the worst budget coils....not the cheapest...but the worst...the ride is extremely stiff and makes the car undriveable.i had them on am e46 coupe and the back of the car was bouncing on the road,the back wheels were lifting of the ground.i also had ta technix witch were a lot better ...
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Dinu knows whats up!
@The2OfAwesomeGamers6 жыл бұрын
Nah man, installed them on my VT Commy last week and they are a blast, no clunks, a tad bouncy in the rear but that is my fault for not enough spring preload, it handles 20x better than the stock suspension (my old rear shocks were blown), an absolute blast to throw around, not too bad comfort wise either, but I did get the adjustable damper ones.
@brassmonkeegaming85834 жыл бұрын
@@The2OfAwesomeGamers Exactly, you bought shite coilovers to replace shite stock suspension... Lumps of wood, would have probably been better!
@Sensekhmet6 жыл бұрын
Just get Bilstein B6/B8 shocks and Eibach Pro-Kit/Sportline springs. Both products are from experts in their fields, are homologated for road use, you can buy them together as a package and the shocks are rebuildable.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Seidowas6 жыл бұрын
I have these on my NB miata Perfect for drifting and daily Since 1 year
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
How are they holding up mate?
@Moctify5 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport you literally wait and ask ? 😂 cmon you hold grudge to negative comments huh
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
@@Moctify I was just asking a question.
@brassmonkeegaming85834 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis Thats because they have probably fallen apart and wont admit to it haha
@Seidowas4 жыл бұрын
@@brassmonkeegaming8583 nope Still not leaking Now they are bad for my usage With +200hp turbo miata They are unprecise and bouncy Maybe next one are BC Racing
@Kajacot5 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice review but I'd like to respectfully disagree on all terms. I bought a 1990 Miata for 2 grand with 2 blown shocks, on lowering springs, driver rear was scraping on the CV axle with 2 people in the car. So I bought the CHEAPEST ebay coilovers with adjustable damper for $199. They fit 100% with no issues, the only issues was taking out the old struts. The car is lowered to the halfway point, and the coilover damper is set to the softest point. The car rides "okay". No noises or squeaks, the car doesn't bottom out, suspension feels tight. I took it to an autocross and set the damper to max stiff, and to my surprise: it did something! The car had less body roll on my full stuff runs than my full soft, but way more oversteer. In the end, I spent $200 on coilovers for a rusty $2,000 miata. No, I'm not going to go get coilovers that cost half the price of the car, that's ridiculous. If it was a nicer, 5 grand car, I'd definitely consider getting something nicer. But for $200, they allow me to lower and raise the car, ride fairly nice, though I dont have a basis of comparison, and have adjustable dampening. All for under $200. They definitely have their place in the world, and they work.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Pavel. I am glad you found a solution that worked for you.
@@Kajacot Thanks! Really needed new ones but i don't want to spend too much. Hope they hold what you promised.
@salvatorehayes27537 жыл бұрын
Did you tension the spring? I noticed u can take them apart with out a spring Compressor cus they can be adjusted. Maybe that noise is the spring weakly sitting on the upper and lower springs mounts? Idk. New shocks usually feel really firm new. I got new stock ones and had like no body roll for couple weeks. Then they loosed up to a stock feel.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Hi Salvatore, thanks for watching! I do believe the springs were seated correctly within their mounts - I find the 'noise' is just a result of the rough ride these offer on my little car.
@salvatorehayes27537 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport ok makes sense.
@jordandouglas13466 жыл бұрын
Just did a miata front end, new kyb shocks, new upper and lower control arms and ball joints and the car feels so much better. Youd get more for your money bringing back to stock with new ball joints and bushings than knockoff coilovers. New ball joints will make way more of a difference than new springs
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
I have indeed gone back to OEM shocks, wayyyyyyy better than these chinese coilovers.
@nickb70407 жыл бұрын
Some people consider these for performance but at this price they are cheaper than originals lol
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@the_daily_dissident6 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of these for my Corolla AE82, and stated on their Ebay that they would fit, the studs were no where near the right fitment, I made sure I selected my car model as well to make sure! The shop is called SuspensionPlanet, just make sure you double check before ordering them. Also, had a friend who installed these exact same coil overs on his AE92 and he took them off within a few days of driving around, due to very loud clunking noises and the springs moving around too much! No matter how much his mechanic adjusted them (both camber / height) it still made the same clunking / grinding sound, we even tried a bit of grease too see if it would reduce it, but no luck at all. Just remember: CHEAP is not always better, and you get what you pay for in terms of quality. I definitely would NOT recommend these cheap coilovers for every day road use, unless you actually WANT that type of "very hard" ride, constant wheel alignments, worn bushes, feeling EVERY BUMP and I mean EVERY SINGLE little bump on the road lol. And I wont even mention pot holes as you can imagine how it feels. In my personal experience, getting a set of lowered springs and new struts (or using your the stock ones if they are still in good condition and not leaking) is the way to go! Yes its more time consuming, as you have to compress / decompress the springs, but in my opinion, that is well worth it and you will have almost no head aches (or migraines lol) Get a set of lowered king springs or other brand, with new shock absorbers (Pedders, Monroe, or KYB) you wont regret ;)
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing MASHAVELLI - I'm hearing lots of people with mixed opinions on these coilovers :)
@bluspirit816 жыл бұрын
you have to put these to not hear any noise bradanderson.com/product/1-60mm-torrington-bearing-and-shims/
@ChekeredFreak5 жыл бұрын
M A S H A V E L L I Im about to install these on my AE92 Corolla. Any advice from your friend?
@ChekeredFreak5 жыл бұрын
bluspirit81 Has this worked for you? Where do you put them?
@jspurs225 жыл бұрын
Just cause it's crappy for this guy don't mean it will be for your car, don't eat up his advice 100%
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
That is the luxury of the internet, you can just keep searching until you find the answer that you want to hear. :-P
@planaproject3 жыл бұрын
His advice is accurate though. On my older cars i used TA technix coils. Its like ebay coils but with a german brand behind it. And even those where the worst fucking crap ive ever laid my money on. First of i had to drill the hole on the coil for the lower control arm, because it was to small. They didnt hold the alignment at all. They rattled and bumped even though everything was tightened to spec. And since i live in sweden, they became proper rust "towers". One thing ive learned. You should not cheap out on coilovers.
@tunagarage36287 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of these for a daily driven little 1991 corolla with the adjustable dampening, and after about 2000 miles they’ve settled nicely, they’re not “comfortable” but for $300, they’re cheaper and handle better than replacing all four springs and struts. And don’t require reconstruction like the stock setup, since they come preassembled. Overall the ride quality is actually not bad, over the sudden changes they are harsh a bit but not unbearable.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Tuna, glad to hear you're at least happy with them :)
@tunagarage36287 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say “happy” but content with the cost in comparison to all OE replacement shocks/springs, and top hats, considering they were all completely destroyed when the car was originally purchased.
@JzLyfe6 жыл бұрын
Tuna Garage i hrard ppl actually buy these because the quality of the strut is good but everything else is bad or something like that and ppl just rebuild them with better parts. so in the end still comes out cheaper than actual good brand.
@alexsaleen73837 жыл бұрын
You drive over speed bumps way to fast 😂
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
They are pretty big and gradual humps, they can easily be taken at 40kmh in my everyday sedan.
@ByronMolette6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@nathchp6 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport an mx5 isn’t an everyday sedan though
@shanebep31355 жыл бұрын
Seemed like they weren't as abrupt as the speed bumps in my city or what other people may be used to. We have speed bumps and humps here, the humps are big and gradual usually on roads and the bumps are tall and abrupt usually found in parking lots.
@Forest__Spirit5 жыл бұрын
lmao i was thinking that i have to crawl over speed bumps and do the honda shuffle but then again i have racelands ultimos and the cars slammed //don’t recommend lol
@BulzinoGTV5 жыл бұрын
Maybe a stupid question, but did you checked if the clunky noise came from the pillowballs in the top mount? As in disassebled view they seems totally dry, not a bit of grease on them - problem which has been noticed from a lot of maxpeeding users. As for damiping instead? What's your feedback - not considering noisy notes. Thanks.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Never a stupid question. Being double a-arm, pillow balls on an MX-5 miata are not really required. There isn't the levels of movement at the top mount like there is with say a mcpherson strut. I suspect the damping was the cause of the worst of the ride 'quality'.
@K03sport7 жыл бұрын
Longevity, that is the real question...new & shiney out of the box, but how will they be in 6 mo, 1yr, 2yrs, etc...other differences is how they handle bump & rebound cycling...did you corner weight the n/a after a bit?
@edgarhood13557 жыл бұрын
I got these a year ago just to replace the oems that previous owner never replaced and they're already rusting which started a few months after being installed and I live in Arkansas
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
No, the car was not corner weighted, really that would have been a waste of time. These things aren't worth the trouble.
@jameswoodsist4 жыл бұрын
not trying to attack you personally, i think enough people have already done that, but i have to say that you come across as a very pretentious and snobby person when it comes to car parts. im sure this one 20 minute video doesnt encapsulate your whole personality but thats the impression i get from it. im sure there are better coilovers out there for thousands of dollars but no one who can afford those is watching this video. the people who are only want to know if these coilovers are worth the money (which this video didnt really answer) not if they stack up to parts that are on hundred thousand dollar professional drift cars. i think thats why this comment section is full of so many negative people, because youve attracted the target market of this product and basically did nothing but insult their (our) intelligence and the quality of the products they (we) use. i think the format of your video was really well done, you were somewhat thorough without rambling and included some useful information. i wish you would have gone into more detail about how or why the coils were making that "crashing" sound but otherwise you did a great job, just try to keep in mind who your audience is when you make another video like this and consider the possibility that just because something is cheap doesnt mean its worthless.
@Bbeavis4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment James, i really appreciate it. I do think the video is still valid and for the most part is still accurate. I do also believe that a large portion of the unhappy commenters are in denial, or just don't agree with my opinion. Just because I don't like something, and someone else does, doesn't mean one of us is right or wrong. In my opinion, these coilovers are not worth the trouble. People come to this video in the hope that their dreams of the cheap solution to coilovers is validated- fair enough. But at the end of the day, I'm not going to recommend them, no matter how many people don't agree with me or say I'm a snob. It should be mentioned, I'm driving a $2000 MX-5, so certainly far from a snobby car - this ain't no high end, or big power or big dollar car.
@brassmonkeegaming85834 жыл бұрын
I have found this to be completely opposite, James. BEAVIS Motorsport, I found, provided a great review on these as I saw a set on eBay for sale going real cheap at an auction. Having never heard of them before and seeing the images, they looked like a quality unit. Glad I found this video - BEAVIS noted MANY good points about these coilovers but looks can be decieving. I guess its a case of the placebo effect.... You think they are good but most people fitting these do not care for ride comfort or handling capabilities. Everyone that has commented on this video has mentioned they ride fine on the street, sure but what about on a race track with long sweeping bends for example. You want to make sure your suspension keeps them tyres in contact with the ground, especially when doing 100mph+
@ziggy7487 жыл бұрын
"I'm not gonna bore you on how to install the coilovers" - pretty much shows the whole procedure on how to install them
@bogdanshvets58555 жыл бұрын
Ziggy R came to comments and thought that would be top comment. I guess not.
@snowman015 жыл бұрын
A time lapse isn't equivalent to a "how to"
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was FAR from a "how to".
@AzzA-687 жыл бұрын
A great experiment and a good video. A tip: when setting/checking the ride height, roll the car backwards & forwards to unload the suspension and sidewalls; as they will load up laterally when lowered from the stands/jacks.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
I briefly mentioned in the video how i had to work the car a few times to get it where I wanted, however I didn't show or mention that its important to give the suspension some bounces and movement... so thanks for the tip, this is a good addition!
@XSTAYUPX7 жыл бұрын
He finds out they bottom out , so he sets ‘em up to bottom out. Hey? How do they ride?
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Sorry STAYUP, but I think you are mistaken on how i setup bump travel correctly. I did not setup anything to bottom out. I set it up to have the most possible bump travel while maintaining the desired ride height.
@Nasonix2 Жыл бұрын
You're actually supposed to loosen all rubber bushing bolts and re torque when it's sitting on the ground level, or else the rubber bushings die
@GearHeadsGarageChannel7 жыл бұрын
Yessss!! Was looking forward to this one man!
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Thanks GH! :)
@802Garage6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha sup Jesse!
@fabjonjon6 жыл бұрын
depending on platform certain coilovers will work even if cheaper...Its the adjusting(preload, ride height, spring rate, and dapening rate), bumpsteer kit, and axels issues when going to low (bindinging or putting wear on bearings and ball joints and tie rod ends, thats where geometery is important and buying high quality adjustable parts that hold up, feel sturdy, and are put together once, the right way. Adjustments are key. Dual tube shocks are killers too...
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Cost isn't the only factor, but in this case these things were poor quality and bad ride.
@yuchungman7 жыл бұрын
Really love your way of presentation...many youtubers only make an install video of coilovers but never managed to describe clearly what difference does they make. Looking forward if you can do different coilover reviews with a similar format!
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Thanks chungman. I didn't want to cover the 'install' too much, as it's been done to death and it's really not that hard, people dont need to watch that... instead I wanted to focus on really giving these coilovers a chance and trying to show what they are really like.
@trm4life3 жыл бұрын
I bought some 500$ coil overs, and had to return them because the lower part of the strut was against the axle boot. Didn't even attempt to drive it, put them right back in the box. Intend to buy some Tein struts and keep the original springs. That way there's no fitment issues.
@Bbeavis3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing :-)
@MrRattlebag5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Sounds as if they're pretty good coil overs for $400...can you post the link so we can support the supplier? Cheers!
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
They are pretty easy to find with a quick google search, try this: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000039102963.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.630c4c56eQARvs&algo_pvid=55c6de35-6408-4f2c-9eaa-63b0149f3420&algo_expid=55c6de35-6408-4f2c-9eaa-63b0149f3420-0&btsid=c0ff84a8-8a4a-466f-bf3d-e9634763e0d2&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_9,searchweb201603_53
@bobbybird94335 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@fiisho4 жыл бұрын
You fr, support the supplier my ass. Support the real companies that designed these products...
@karlomisura22075 жыл бұрын
I mean I get your point. They are Chinese which probably means that they aren't engineered very well since there isn't any R'n'D put into them. But I would rather take these than FK's, JOM's or TaTechnixs when were talking about the lowest spectrum of coil overs, most of these have horrible crashy rides. I driven in one of these which were set up pretty nicely on a Ek3 hatchback and they drove much better than the other lower quality coilovers. From my research there are some specific issues with these coilovers and Miatas all over KZbin such as the ride height and the ride itself. (Probably because they weren't made properly for the car) but on EK civics and BMW e36 they seem to be fine. These definitely can't compete with mid-range coilovers in any shape or form but if somebody is just looking to slam their car their pretty okay since people who do that don't care about ride quality or performance. I respect your opinion that you think these are garbage as in reality most cheap coilovers are but sadly not everybody can afford quality coilovers. Nice video, good insight.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, glad you can appreciate the perspective. I do think these are perhaps "worse" on a miata than other larger cars.
@giegerfan5 жыл бұрын
So I just installed this brand with 24 adjustable damper, pretty damn happy with how they perform. WH2 Statesman.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Oh cool I didn't know they did Holdens. What'd they set you back?
@mattmayden91886 жыл бұрын
I got these on my Miata. They're really not too bad. Had for over a year and still running fine. Decently harsh, but not worse that any other "track focused" coilover.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I found them worse than every other coil over I've ever used.
@michaeljoseph43144 жыл бұрын
I just can’t bring myself to spend 2x the price of my car on coilovers
@Bbeavis4 жыл бұрын
And rightly so if it doesn't make sense to you. But I also don't want to encourage people to make their car worse by installing shit, even keeping oem parts is better than these china-spec coilovers. For me, I paid $5,000 for my car, but it probably has $15k or more worth of parts installed on it. I'm quite content with that because I do what I enjoy.
@michaeljoseph43144 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis I'm in college... so I don't have that sort of money lying around... that said, I think sometimes cheapish coilovers are a little better than 30 year old stock springs. Plus I want the car a little lower/ more tossable.
@ΒΞΔΝ3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeljoseph4314 "When they make the whip you like, you're chips ain't right. By the time you can afford it, the car ain't important" ~ Nas Just go with Eibach lowering springs for a better stance and performance on a budget. They are great springs, and cost about $300 on average (varies on make-model) They come in 2-3 tiers starting at around 1.2" drop. You will be quite surprised at how much better the car will handle as well for just a few hundo. great company, been around for a very long time, and most people's go to. Lifetime warranty and all springs specific designed and tested for each model.
@jeremiahrobertson66713 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis hey my eclipse has 3 bad struts, I'm looking online and these ebay coilovers are a cheaper option than doing all 4 struts. would you suggest it? I'm not really worried about lowering and stancing it, I just want to get it to pass inspection. but I wouldn't mind if it was a little lower, 3g eclipse sits a little high.
@paulwyand62045 жыл бұрын
Nice that they include drain holes for the shock fluid to drain out once they start leaking in a few months!
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Haha, exactly Paul!
@ardie723 жыл бұрын
For condensation ..rust prevention
@franktaylor76176 жыл бұрын
China builds things to the spec's of the client. If the client wants higher quality, that's what they get. Even name brand products are built in China. They build them to spec. China has come a long way in the quality of their production. They want repeat customers and probably trying to shake their bad reputation. China can make some very high quality things, you just have to pay for it. Keeping in mind that old saying, "if it's too good to be true, it probably is". I've been watching many videos on the breakdown if tools/testing Chinese tools against the high end counterpart tools. Very interesting. The cheeper Chinese tools holdup very well compared to the cost.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
You are quite right in many respects Frank, but to clarify, this was a test of a "chinese designed, engineered and built' product. That being, something that doesn't necessarily see the levels of quality of a 'name brand' coilover, even one made in china which is considered superior quality. In this case, the 'chinese' product was significantly inferior to anything i've used in the past.
@franktaylor76175 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis Got cha. It's probably going to be a long time before they can build something of high quality and reliability and retain the low costs. I have a set of S.S. headers I bought awhile ago. I thought, how bad can they be? $99 for thick flanged shorty headers. They looked pretty good when I pulled them out of the box. Flanges were like 7/16" thick, welds were nice. Overall they looked good. By the time I got around to really checking them out. I soon realized they were completely useless. The ports were so big they breached the outside of the gasket...the outside!! Flanges so thick you couldn't put bolts through the holes, tubes bent so sharply near the flange they bolts couldn't be put in. The testing and R&D work is expensive. I'm sure no one ever fitted these to a cylinder head. They make them look the same. I guess my point is. They still have my money. There's nothing I can do about it. If word gets out and no one buys them. They just build something else until they can no longer sell them, then on to the next thing. I think they're trying to keep repeat customers now. Trying to escape the reputation.
@Thatguy-vu5iu3 жыл бұрын
Simple choice if you want to lower your car then get lowering springs... i only bought these to see how they fair on hill runs to halls gap and to lower my impreza 😊 if theyre too harsh for the road then im gonna switch to lowered springs.
@Bbeavis3 жыл бұрын
Hope that they go ok on your subaru :)
@Swermie7 жыл бұрын
I really like that ride height from when you first showed the ride height. Looks good and not stupid low.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Swermie, I certainly try not to go stupid low. The car is supposed to be usable.
@headlesnorseman7016 жыл бұрын
I got these same coil overs and measured the springs to be more like 600F/540R in/lbs. definitely stiffer than advertised
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for the insight Headles
@Ingvehetland7 жыл бұрын
you should lower your standard if BC-R is low end to too -.-
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Hey Nozzy thanks for watching! In my opinion, suspension is important, BC's are about as low as I would like to go. Anything less is very likely just not good enough for me...
@Ingvehetland7 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport Thank you for your time by replying. I agree on that suspension is VERY important. But in my opinion bc's are decent. Their not top of the line but it's far from the worst. I've had good experiences with bc, however i bet it's more about the type of vehicle that it's made for, as your springs are tiiiiiny with not much travel rate compared to what I've been around with
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Fair enough Nozzy, what else out there is a reasonable product for say around $1000 though? There's probably more options in the USA, but here in Australia we have too small of a market.
@Ingvehetland7 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport I'm from Norway so i know all about little market, and i base my awnsers around that
@nopers22233227 жыл бұрын
tein street basis, xida
@londonriggins5345 жыл бұрын
I just bought some of these maxspeedingrods and they seem good. the only issue I have had I had to drill out the stock holes on the front struts because they were slightly off. So far easy to adjust. Only other issue have to mark with a sharpie to count how many rotations of the sleeve. Mentioned firmness if you loosen the center bolt it makes softer.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Thanks London, glad to hear they're working well for you!
@RAYtheram7 жыл бұрын
mate i have had the maxpeeding coilover kit in my vt commodore for 2 over 2 years now. yes they are stiff but handling along with strutt braces and aftermarket sway bars the old vt handles like a dream.. and thats hard for a vt-vz... i put them in because they were cheaper than a new set of struts and rear shocks and havent looked back. the only knocking noise i got was from a lower ball joint. maybe you could have installed them wrong?
@RAYtheram7 жыл бұрын
i have a picture of mine after 2 years and the shocks still bounce back like they should. cant post pic here though
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
I installed them correctly, they just aren't suited to the car. Perhaps the manufacturer has only one valving setup which is more suited to a 1600kg car rather than our little 950kg machine.
@HafroSamurai Жыл бұрын
Great video my man! Too many people and companies out there spreading bad information about setting up coilovers. I'm about to finally get mine working hopefully tonight and your video is totally motivating me haha! 🤙🏽 Too many months and extra money spent on this project hah. I started with 6kg in front and 5kg progressive v-barrel (IRS mind you) rear 😂 corner weights somewhere in the 800lbs range so around 360-400kg lol. Let's just say I permanently compressed 2 pairs of springs already in front (the 6kg and 8kg),10kg is holding and now to put in the Swift adapters and 14kg! Thanks for pumping me up! 💪🏽👈🏽
@Bbeavis Жыл бұрын
Thank you mate, love your enthusiasm... great to hear you are finding a solution that works well for your car!
@toycorpukebayworldwideship57615 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have packaging like that than pay through my nose for perfectly formed foam that I'm gonna be throwing away. 80% of R&D goes into packaging design. Hence the high prices. Majority it's a con. Like sprinkling glitter on shit and selling it for more. For what they are, I'd give those coilovers 7.5/10.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
I don't think I had any concern with the packaging, just that it was kind of amusing. Personally I felt these coilovers were a pretty poor performer for my car.
@toycorpukebayworldwideship57615 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis agree they wouldn't be suitable for your time attack. But for what they are and for people on a tight budget, they'll do just fine.
@alexlppez77785 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend going coilovers or just change the shocks? My mustang bounces alot and idk if i should go with coilovers or just upgrade my shocks
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
That depends on what sort of driving you are doing with your car and your intended budget.
@tomthompson74005 жыл бұрын
so just what was the conclusion ,,,, did i miss that part . or was it just that 400 quid parts are 400 quid good and 1800 quid parts are 1800 quid good.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
I think your summary is, in a way, quite accurate. Fundamentally, yes, 400 buck coils perform like you'd expect for 400 bucks.
@lennoxlewis26 жыл бұрын
But would they be an upgrade from stock suspension at all on the mx5 you got? :) do they beat them anyways?
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
I changed back to stock bilstein suspension and are much happier with how these perform now.
@hyrumbeck27395 жыл бұрын
Cost savings my dude, cost savings. I'm so down with these
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Save a buck now and it'll cost you in about 3 months when these things leak all over your driveway.
@fiisho4 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis Or when your car gets totalled when you push them to hard through a roundabout
@andrasjuhasz70114 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the diameter of the internals are, and if they can be revalved using more quality parts. For example BC BRs for some cars are not valved correctly and apparently give a crashy, bad quality ride. BC probably just used off the shelf stuff and didn't tune the dampers for the specific springs and the car's weight(they probably did tune them for some cars, and are a good choice for those). However, the BC piston diameter is exactly the same as some Bilstein pistons so they can be rebuilt using Bilstein internals. It takes engineering(you have to choose your own shims), definitely not for everyone, but if done right and tested at a shock dyno, it can be better than öhlins. The BC housing and the top hats are apparently good quality, so it's a good base to build your own shocks. Going by this review, these maXX PEEEEEEEEEEdingrods have a decent outside build quality too, so I wonder if some other manufacturer's pistons match. Maybe you could cut them up(errr, I mean disassemble) for science :D?
@Bbeavis4 жыл бұрын
A good point Andras. I'm not sure who would have the expertise and time to invest in such an investigation, certainly I don't personally have experience with shock internals... would be curious to see though.
@bullocklegacyproductions33435 жыл бұрын
🤣 my favorite part in this video is at ‘18:52’ you see the Accord just WALK AWAY silently 🤣
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
It is a Holden Commodore
@RichardLangis7 жыл бұрын
I got a set of these for my '96 outback because what was on it when purchased were absolutely shot. They're a little stiff and they won't stay on the car long, but I needed something while I researched which forester setup would give me the most lift. For $300, they got the car back on the road and looking good in the interim.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
They are certainly a cheap way to keep a car on the road when times are desperate.
@hiddenkard31016 жыл бұрын
18:55 That legacy passed you thinking 'Just the casual morning trip to the office' And you 'Full race mode bitch...go miata go! .. who tf is that mad man??' _puts head down in defeat_ lol
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
That's the life of a MX-5 with now power! hah! Hey it was actually a Holden Commodore :-)
@crxkid165 жыл бұрын
Did you adjust the dampeners at all? From their site the gold ones are 24 way adjustable I believe...it’s possible they were on max stuff?
@crxkid165 жыл бұрын
Never mind they sell the none adjustable dampening shocks in the color too, were yours the adjustable ones?
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Hey Crx, indeed this set that I purchased did not come with any form of damper adjustment.
@elozglobal31287 жыл бұрын
i want to see the follow up review i disagree even great coilovers make noise though.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
I'll be sure to post an update with a few months once I've put a few more miles on them. :)
@thadbeard37906 жыл бұрын
So did the maxpeeding rods hold up?
@censordeez6 жыл бұрын
Thad Beard don’t hold your breath. In another comment of the same age as this one he told someone they were “so bad he had to remove them!”, so who knows.
@sectioneightgaming40867 жыл бұрын
Good video,just curious did the ride height drop at all after a week or two once the coilovers had bed in?
@AzzA-687 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know how they settle in after a weekend or 500kms+ of driving around on some "C roads", if they survive it without blowing a seal or busting a weld. Put them to some hard work. I'd expect both the springs and the dampening to soften up markedly; even top end mfgrs over-rate the starting figures so that prolonged life is nearer the quoted figure. Top end mfgrs however will aim to put the production figure closer to the quoted figure so that the high paying end user is happy from the get-go, I wouldn't expect the lower end mfgr to have such a customer oriented approach; they're more likely to over-engineer for longevity, or simply not care at all.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
There was no perceived change.
@AzzA-685 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis I bought a set, NB, and they quite good for the money. Mine did settle a little, about 3/8", but that was after chasing every rut, pothole, corrugation, and rough country road I could find... Even mud and gravel... and running them with fully soft dampening. And they performed very well on all surfaces.
@nismoj145 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate this review helped me choose whether to go cheap or expensive. Legend
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Cool, what did you end up deciding on?
@jmwreck5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I've got mine installed and notice that the rubber "washer" on my front right slipped off. Does it make any difference with or without the washers? It made a constant clunking noise as I drove down my driveway. I brought it to the mechanic and while on my way to the shop, the noise was gone, the mechanic told me that the rubber that slipped off is not the reason why it made that noise. He asked me to take a photo of it and send it to the ebay seller.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
I would expect the difference should be minimal. But i wonder if the clunking noises you hear are just the way these coilovers are. I experienced a similar type of noise and put it down to the inferior design.
@jmwreck5 жыл бұрын
@@Bbeavis I went to another mechanic for second opinion and I've been told that the rear suspension doesn't have a reaction, it doesn't spring down making it bumpy, the rear wheels almost have the same distance (vertically) on the ground and when it's jacked up. Told me that the front springs are rotating instead of the bushing which is the reason for the noise. I've been ripped off. 🤔
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
@@jmwreck Oh no sorry to hear. I have so many commenters in this video who say how these coilovers are great and call me all sorts of names because i DIDN'T recommend them, but after my own experiences, and when hearing stories like yours, I feel like I am justified with my opinion.
@harleyross19757 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that moment when he got walked by a commodore 😂😂
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Hey, it happens :)
@MicroTurboComplex5 жыл бұрын
I have some $200 coilovers from "maxpeedingrods" on my 2000 528i. They lasted 1 year before the front right completely blew out. Everyone trying to defend these parts is just in denial. We all want to believe that we can get high quality upgrades for a fraction of the cost of the name brand ones but that is just not the case.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chad. Appreciate that you have an understanding that these things aren't worth the bother, most people seem to be delusional and aggressively defend them.
@Magnus_Wolfe7 жыл бұрын
I will confess to having taking a punt on a set of these as a stopgap. Got an s12 which stock shocks & springs are nigh on impossible to find in the UK, so picked up some s13 MaXpeedingRods coilovers and am using them as a cheapo filler to get the car roadworthy. They are less than a quarter of the price of BC Racing coils in the UK and will do to get me up and running. Considering the stuff that came off the car was original 30 year old fitment, I think the ride quality will be improved a bit :)
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear they are working for you Steve. I've since removed these things and installed the OEM shocks again, they are a much more compliant ride and still capable through the corners. Perhaps Mazdas engineers did a good job back in the 90's as these things are still going well....
@DeejayTokzik6 жыл бұрын
I have a set of “eBay” coilovers on my NB, not the exact same design as yours cosmetically, mine aren’t yellow but generally they’re all the same. I’ve changed all the bushes in mine for uprated Powerflex ones, mine isn’t crashy as you described in your video. It is pretty firm but absolutely fine to drive 👍🏻 I have friends that have been using these for years too and only after 5 years had one shock fail. I’d say that’s pretty decent for the money! Sure they won’t compare to a set of BC’s or whatever but as a cheap means of getting the ride height the way you want it and a mild upgrade over standard they do the job just fine. I’ve even heard of them being used in Targa rally’s on rough country lanes etc and given a fair bit of abuse 👍🏻
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Hey Gary, thanks for sharing your experience, really appreciate it!
@DeejayTokzik6 жыл бұрын
BEAVIS Motorsport No problem. They do get a lot of stick, but they’re not quite as bad as some make out. Maybe with mine having all new bushes etc I don’t feel any crashyness.
@planaproject3 жыл бұрын
Ive never scrolled so far down on a comment section, this is f**ing gold xD
@Bbeavis3 жыл бұрын
Have to agree with you there, lots of entertainment :)
@sallin8286 жыл бұрын
The thing that makes eBay suspension suck is dampening rate is to soft for grip racing situation. If the dampening rate was stiffer it would be a pretty good suspension. if you have I would say 2005 and newer this suspension will do you no good unless your goal is to lower your car and not cut your springs than go for it. if your car is 2003 and older on stock struts it's a great alternative than swapping for new stock struts.
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Hey Sal, thanks for watching and appreciate the comments... it's certainly the unusual dampening that adds to the poor ride.
@sallin8286 жыл бұрын
Update one of my coilovers died 5 months of real aggressive driving is what I got out of my ebay's lol. Time to upgrade to something better.
@RanLinlayrian7 жыл бұрын
They are actually pretty good considering how cheap they are.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
They are really only for the stance crowd.
@mlcollingwood7 жыл бұрын
If you need it lower you can use a shorter spring. Looks like they are 70 ID and 180mm long, you may be able to get a way with a 150mm long spring.
@Bbeavis7 жыл бұрын
Very true. Or I suppose an alternate ghetto solution would be to shorten the lower shock mount so that the spring perch can be lowered more - however the spring would become unseated. The real issue is, there is a lack of rear travel .... actually no the real issue is the shocks are just generally pretty crap hah.
@number48615 жыл бұрын
“Chinglish” I’m dead😂😂
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
:-)
@theenglishtrucker18495 жыл бұрын
If you dont take your car on tracks, and dont need adjustable shocks, then all you need to upgrade is Bilstein shocks and Eibach Springs. Less than have the price of coilovers. Again, no point in coilovers if you fit and forget.
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@frenchblueee6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the upload but he’s kinda....very annoying. What else do you expect from $250 coilovers off of eBay......
@Bbeavis6 жыл бұрын
Hey Indecisyve, I guess that's a valid point - I did expect they'd be pretty average for the price. But half the comments I see here criticize me for saying they are disappointing, and suggest I am a pompous fancy-pants and people seem to say that they are perfectly fine. So it's impossible to please everyone! haha. But hey, I bought them to find out for myself and now I know. Thanks for watching!
@my2centz1965 жыл бұрын
I don't have coilovers but I did replace the suspension on my jeep. I have struts on the front shocks on the back. I used Monroe brand because my local parts store sells them and their made in the US and not China lol. Anyway my ride is now noisy. It pisses me off so bad lol. It doesn't so much feel bad I guess just not as good as the stock that was on it but sounds like yours. Only reason I replaced mine is because the front was smashed into a year ago by and old man and the shop screwed me over big time. Anyway I didn't notice until a year later but what I imagine happened is the strut tower got bent slightly where it holds the spring and over time the powder coat peeled off in that spot and then rusted. After it rusted it got weak and bent downward pretty bad and started make a loud noise. Unfortunately my spring compressor won't compress my springs on the jeep so I had to get quick struts
@Bbeavis5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear of your troubles my2centz, I hope you find a solution someday. It's a shame you've opted for a brand like Monroe and still ended up with a disappointing ride.