eBay Scammer Arrested - Sometimes The Buyer Doesn't Always Win

[@killrkiddx007]

Sounds like eBay gonna need a lot of lawyers

[@BeyondTshirts]

I called a seller when I didn't receive an item. He guaranteed he'd put the right label on it and we'd both been tracking the item. Eventually I tracked it down - it was sitting in the Lost Parcels dept. at the Post Office. So I called the seller back and let him know. He was going to refund me and I said, 'No! This isn't your fault, it's the Post Office's.' I just couldn't make him pay for something that he didn't do. He thanked me profusely for being an honest and ethical eBayer. :-) The package will probably show up when I'm like 72 yrs. old and don't need it anymore. ROFL

[@rulesforrebels]

you are an awesome ebay buyer. so many buyers are quick to jump on sellers for things out of their control. im shocked you maanged to get the item back as usps customer service is a joke. that said i once managed to get a $900 package returned from the lost mail center. its in atlanta georgia right? i remember when that happenned to me thinking usps is a blackhole im out the money and after a couple dozen calls and being relentless i actually did iwnd up getting it back.

[@BeyondTshirts]

Rules For Rebels Good for you! And no, I'm still waiting for USPS in Phila. to deliver my lost item. It's been six years, so yeah, I don't expect to see it before I'm 72. ROFL

[@boostedmaniac]

Yeah I was in the seller shoes when something like that happened to me. I actually tracked it myself and saw that ups delivered to wrong address and let the buyer know right away. Luckily the business that received my package incorrectly sent it back to ups and a couple weeks later I got it back and was able to send the item finally to the correct person.

[@ewakarecka7928]

3 days ago a scammer sent back to me an empty envelope instead of sunglasses. So what I did? i reported him to actionfraud.police.uk here in UK and ebay had to return me my money which first they refunded back to him although I contacted ebay and spoke with them about the issue attaching 3 photographs of the envelope I recieved from the scammer. I sell on ebay but absolutely hate this selling platform.

[@VeganPopTarts]

I don't like it either. That's cool how you contacted the police about it. I had a buyer send me back an empty box before, but the buyer was too lazy to send it back on time, so I didn't have to refund them or anything.

[@danburch9989]

Maybe a class action law suit against eBay will get them to change their policies and procedures to address buyers who do a lot of scamming & returns. Yours and other experiences with scammers is why I never deal with private sellers on eBay. Sure, they are few in number, but all it takes is one to destroy trust in their system.

[@page5136]

Dan Burch I totally agree with you, I'm wishing for class action law suit to happen to ebay to straighten out no action policy. friend of mine sold a transformer to Chinese customer, customer said it was damage, sent no picture of damages. Now ebay playing games, not solving the problem.

[@page5136]

Dan Burch I totally agree with you, I'm wishing for class action law suit to happen to ebay to straighten out no action policy. friend of mine sold a transformer to Chinese customer, customer said it was damage, sent no picture of damages. Now ebay playing games, not solving the problem.

[@rulesforrebels]

hey dan good poitn but what do you mean you dont deal with private sellers on ebay? do you mean amazon? pretty much every listing on ebay is a private seller although ebay is sort of getting into selling some of their own stuff. im wondering if you mean amazon vs amazon third party sellers?

[@page5136]

Rules For Rebels the Chinese guy was a EBay 3rd time buyer, my buddy bubbled wrapped and peanuts to protect the item, had shipped FedEx to china with signature. Day later said it was destroyed. The buyer has not proved evidence, such as a picture to prove it destroyed. my friend has sold over 10,000 item and great feedback. Ebay needs a better system to protect everybody.

[@CS-mm7iv]

I can't believe eBay doesn't check people's history of sales and feedback. Isn't that what it's there for? To show people are honest and good sellers? Same should go for buyers. If the buyer has zero or low feedback or just created their account and the seller has great feedback this shouldn't even be an issue. What is wrong with eBay?

[@fliora4177]

Mom that weird hippie guy is in our house again....

[@jimmy_iKoN]

I won't sell anything over $500 on Ebay

[@rulesforrebels]

i think that's very wise, ebay/paypal just leaves sellers to vulnerable to chargebacks and issues to be selling items worth thoussands of dollars.

[@wolfwolfenstein5537]

I won't sell anything over 20..

[@really7037]

I am thankful to guys like you that share stories like this. I have made the mistake of shipping b4 being paid and was nearly scammed by an established eBay buyer with 100% fb, i did get my $ after catching the buyer LYING! And most recently dealt with several "newly registered" 0 fb buyers who refuse to pay or communicate. This behavior is BAD for us sellers and makes it difficult for the "GOOD eBayers". Don't tolerate it folks, block 'em ASAP for your own sake and the eBay platform. Thanks for the videos, I will continue to watch and learn!

[@Kampup]

Any chance you could get rid of that dot on the wall behind you? OCD it's driving me crazy, love your videos :)

[@rulesforrebels]

haha lol plants. i dont live in that house anymore, otherwise I'd be happy to get rid of the dot

[@Kampup]

Lol cheers :)

[@tilarium2]

Good to see a scammer get caught. I've never sold on e-bay but I've bought a few hundred items over the years, thankfully I've only been scammed once. Bought a USS Enterprise (the US Aircraft Carrier) last sail challenge coin that was given to all members of the crew for that last sail. I think I paid around $250 for it, which was a really good price as others were being sold for $300-$400. The guy kept telling me it was shipped, even gave me a tracking number that never got tracking (I work for the Post Office now and learned that he just made a tracking label for a package then never actually mailed it). eBay kept telling me to wait and bide my time because it had a tracking number and he mailed it and all this. Eventually it passed the deadline to file a fraud case with eBay and PayPal. Sense then, before buying I make sure the seller has good (more recent the better) feedback and do my research first.

[@drd6893]

I've had that only happen twice, and over years of buying, two times i didn't receive it. one time, it was given to someone in Virginia, i live in Maine, second time, the package didn't show up, fed ex said delivered. Two days later, a stranger knocks on my door, and I'm like, who the heck... he hands me a package, told me he found it on his steps two days prior, no signature tho.. so fed ex was supposed to get a signature. anyway the kindness of a good person got me my package back.

[@rulesforrebels]

hey lady, yeah i find post office loses alot more packages than fedex. fedex is typically pretty good but does make mistakes. technically speaking your only required to put a signature on packages over $750 but personaly anything over like $250 i'll put a signature on.

[@stevenkusar3630]

I sometimes dont put in the tracking to see if they try to scam me. half the times say they got it and some time they say I didnt get then i show it

[@CarlosVargas-bd5sv]

These scammers on ebay really give good sellers a bad name. I sell on ebay and I've had people constantly try to scam me wanting the item and their money back.

[@rulesforrebels]

hey carlos, thats too bad. yeah there's some bad apples out there but overall i think the majority of ebay buyers and sellers are good people. alot of people just decide a certain price point up to which thye are willing to sell because as we all know if a buyer wants an something they are typically going to get their way whether that be a partial refund, return, etc.

[@todaysrealhealth8153]

eBay should do it as Uber, where the buyer gets rated too.

[@AcousticGString]

Carlos Vargas I sold a Tom Brady Patriots jersey the week before the 2017 superbowl. The guy that bought it wore it to a superbowl party then filed a claim against me for a refund. Ebay took the money plus shipping out of my Paypal account and I didnt know until i received and email saying I had until February 9th to respond to the request for refund..but they had already refunded the guy days earlier..which i didn't know yet. I approved the refund even though the guy who bought it claimed I sent him a jersey that didnt match the pictures..100% false, hes a liar..he just wore it for a party then got his money back. Im then wondering why he hasn't sent the jersey back to me. Ebay tells me that because I approved the return the case is closed and now this asshole got his money back and gets to keep the jersey. They denied taking the money out of my account, but they did, days before I got the email on the 9th asking me if I would approve the return. They jumped the gun, gave him his money back while he still had the jersey so now he gets to keep it.

[@ebaylistinginfo]

There is a good site out there I check regularly, which gives info about bad buyer and what they did, along with their user name and address. Since us seller can't leave neg feedback on buyer, that's at least a good alternative.

[@ebaylistinginfo]

Forgot to post the link to it. The web site is: badbuyerlist.org/

[@javierjaimerobles3184]

Ebay should ask for criminal records before letting someone make an account

[@rulesforrebels]

probably wont happen but not a bad idea

[@MobileDecay]

In a smaller town the police just need something to do other than swat flies. 😌

[@yo848]

i purchased a phone from ebay and i didnt get the item in like 3 weeks so i messaged him he daid he lost the item and something about doing something with ups PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO TRACK AN ITEM PLEASE I AM DESPERATE I AM 14 :3

[@Arnav09678]

i am a buyer and i have been scammed on ebay.i bought a laptop from ebay and the seller send a grease cream so i opened a dispute with paypal and the seller asked for return which i did. but since my country is still developing it doesnt have tracking system so i lost my dispute and 297usd. i dnt know wat to do know

[@redlunch]

Is there any good place to get stats on eBay or Amazon as to most popular search terms (to find items people are looking for that are not sold much)?

[@rulesforrebels]

yes that's exactly what terapeak does bit.ly/1JvYOhU. you can get a free 7 day trial by clicking that link. they have a hot list, they also have a hot category list and within their searches you can see it trending the price of items ie if the price of the item is getting higher or lower as well as how many people are listing so you can see if ther's more or less sellers now offering that item.

[@redlunch]

Wow, cool - thank you.

[@phillyflash43]

The Internet Crime Complaint Center, also known as IC3, is a multi-agency task force made up by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C), and the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA). In 2012, the IC3 received reports totaling $525 million in damages to consumers.

[@rafarush45]

Nice numbers, good to know. Only in the US this works?

[@rulesforrebels]

very interesting i wasn't aware of exactly what that is. ive heard that the fbi doesn't get involved in internet crimes unless the loss exceeds something like 50 million dollars. not sure how true that is but thats something ive heard.

[@rolex907]

I dont think this is a real story thats not probable cause to get a search warrent

[@asspylonker]

I am dealing with a situation where I shipped internationally via USPS. Buyer is claiming he never received it and has requested a refund. Anything I can do to fight this. USPS says they can't track it once it's left the country.

[@robertrose3068]

Last week I had a guy wanting to buy a gaming or a Hulu access card but asked me if I could just send him the code instead of mailing the card. I told him we weren't allowed to that for tracking purposes, etc.... Then 2 days ago, I get a message from eBay saying that account had been hacked. I've used ebay for years but just started my store 10 days ago, I hadn't thought of someone hacking an account and getting codes that way. I also decided to take those listings down, mainly because they show face value and it's hard to sell one when someone can see the face value. Been using Terapeak for over a week and it's awesome. I found your video searching the best way to use the SEO feature, as you probably know even has a word counter! I'm going to use your techniques and see what happens. I also subscribed. Thanks for taking your time to do these.

[@rulesforrebels]

that's a shame about the hulu thing. i know many people make big money selling xbox codes, hulu, etc. that said i hear it also comes with a lot of headaches as well. something like that may be better for your own site as we all know ebay has a lot of rules and scams.

[@robertrose3068]

+Rules For Rebels Do they even make money that the face value is showing? That's mainly why I took them down. I assumed if people saw the face value, why would they pay more?

[@mica624]

Hello Sir I just have another question, what if the buyer will not open a claim, what should I do?please reply thank you

[@rulesforrebels]

if they dont open a claim there's no issue? are we talking in reference to item showing delivered but buyer claiming they didnt receive?

[@mica624]

Hello I am a new seller on eBay, just today my costumer send me an email through eBay that he tracked his packaged and showing already delivered at his porch, and he said why is it so fast the shipment only took two days, because I send it on April 26, 2017 and showing delivered on his front porch on April 28, 2017, and he didn't receive his packaged...its my first time and I dont really know what to do yet...do you have any suggestion? thanks a lot

[@rulesforrebels]

hey mica, so the buyer is claiming item not received even though usps tracking shows delivered? the one thing kind of weird to me is why the customer is making a big deal about getting it quick. most people want to get packages quick so its something i would be happy about personally not something i would question. also if your shipping quickly like a good ebayer should and which you did, even usps 1st class mail arrives in 2-3 days so thats not really odd, especially if you guys are only a state or two apart. here's how i handle those istuations. i tell the buyer im not trying to pass the buck but please open a claim. ebay/paypal will ask for tracking and you'll proivde it to them showing delivered. you will win the case. typically ebay/paypal will cover the buyers loss because really nobody is at fault assuming the package was really misdelivered or stolen. you shipped quickly as your supposed to and item was showed delivered so you shouldn't be out money. at the same time if this is true buyer shouldn't be out money as well. this is where ebay/paypal buyer/seller protection kicks in andthats the reason we pay the hihgh fees for this protection. as long as the buyer doesn't have a history of saying item not received when tracking shows it wsa basically as long as they have no history of scamming they should be reimbursed. i think its important to communicate to the customer that your not trying to be difficult or give them the runaround or pass the buck but this is how it works.

[@DANOULBLK]

Can we report eBay ? The eBay company trying to scammed me 4600$now plz help me , how to report the eBay.

[@Cryptocoinsphere]

Hi, Ebay Stole my Money. Anyone can suggest what can i do? Basically i have an suspended account on Ebay (They never told me Reason). And yesterday one of of Buyer requested Refund for an Ipad sold 25 Days ago. First of all Buyer Filed a case in wrong Category ad "Item not received", And under that Buyer mentioned "He/She recieved the Item but it's all scratched". And eBay refunded Straight Away. Without my knowledge. I mean how can someone say they have scratches on Tablet after 23 days? And eBay said they can't help me out because my account was suspended already.

[@vitico1531]

This is my experience on a sale i did for a rolex, receive and ebay email that was ok to shiped to somewhere on Nigeria, and the email from Ebay was fake, I realize this because first I went to paypal and notice the payment was not receive and the call ebay and let them know about the email and was told the email was not from them, also I did an email trace and show the email was coming from a diferent place that was not California and this was tha let me to check paypal payment and calling Ebay, beware.

[@todaysrealhealth8153]

How do you do a email trace?

[@dylanfilms2432]

This is what happened to me! I sold a Tiffany bracelet worth $1,900 and the buyer returned a fake copy of it asking for a refund. I sent pictures to eBay to show the differences between my bracelet and this fake copy. I even provided the receipt from Tiffany store when the bracelet was bought to prove authenticity. eBay's response was "the buyer is entitled to the full refund" and "we wish you the best on your future transactions". They full refund the buyer, did not care I lost $1,900 and my Tiffany gold bracelet. they let those scammers steal form us sellers and supported them 100%. don't sell on eBay, believe me, it's a nightmare!

[@marilynsmymother711]

I had a $100 purchase marked “paid not shipped” for about 2 weeks. Seller specified payment due within 3 days, but I pay immediately (alarm clock to watch auctions, or buy it now). I buy often on eBay, and had never had an issue, so I wasn’t very worried initially. Finally once I realized it was still not shipped I sent a message to ask if it had been shipped. The next day nothing had changed so I messaged again, but I felt like I was being bothersome (even though she had my money, but I feel like she wouldn’t get paid until she marked it shipped). She responded with a tracking number. I thanked her and searched the number. It was 4 digits short. I messaged again. She apologized and gave me the last 4. I looked and USPS said it was an invalid tracking number. I was frantic. I really wanted the item, but I would’ve settled for my money. I didn’t want to say anything to the seller until I could guarantee I’d get my money back. The next day I came home from work to the package on my porch. I checked my eBay app and it was still marked “paid not shipped” I was so happy. I immediately messaged the seller and let her know that I received it. I left positive feedback, and thanked her for being so helpful through the process. I’m so happy that I didn’t lose my cool, or ask for a refund. I was really worried that I’d lost my money. I still don’t understand why the USPS tracking # she was given didn’t work, or why she would have shipped it without marking it as shipped. I had it for over a week before the status changed. My worst experience was a seller that happened to live in the same town as me. $100 obo auction. I offered $80 to see what kind of wiggle room there was. He sends me a message and says he’ll take $80 if I meet and pay cash. I immediately felt uncomfortable with that. I let him know that I shop eBay because it feels safer. He said of that was the case he couldn’t go lower that $120 because eBay would take a percentage and he would get less than he wanted for the item. I wished him luck on selling it, and moved on.

[@terrymorrison7263]

first time viewer. is the shirt for sale? now i have to sub to see the ansewer.

[@danburch9989]

Scams even happen in brick & mortar stores. One scammer bought a DVD player for her computer and the box with rocks in it. Couldn't trace the scammer - used cash and a fake address on the refund slip.

[@rulesforrebels]

the store didn't open the package to check before issuing a refund?

[@danburch9989]

Nope. Minimum wage employee accepted the package without inspecting the contents. The few times I return items, they always inspected the package and its contents. I guess I have a guilty looking face.

[@lexbeltran1354]

Vercusgames Target and Walmart have cameras, there are security police at Walmart parking lots.

[@cherylleigh36]

I think its so awful that people scam. When I have bought stuff, sometimes I never received, so I was refunded the money. Then the item arrived after the fact. So then I contacted the seller, and paid for the item. Why...because its the right thing to do. I can sleep at night knowing I'm honest, and if I die before I wake, I don't have to worry where I might end up........it won't be below that is for sure....not to preach or anything...but if hell is real...dishonesty paves the path there.

[@rulesforrebels]

hey cheryl, im the same way. not only because its the right thing to do but also im a big believer in karma. i recently had a supplier send me $18,000 in merchandise i hadn't ordered. i contacted them and told them about it and sent it back to them. another similar instance happenned to me over about $5,000 worth of stuff. then recently on two occasions my business partner and i made a mistaken and sent two packages each containing $1,000 to the wrong person. both people contacted me and said hye i wasn't supposed to get this and sent it back to me. im a big believer in what goes around comes around. glad to hear your the same way.

[@DougHNuts-ee3vn]

Hell is NOT real! Stop scaring the kids. Fuck Religitards and their Puritanical agendas.

[@trikzshotz336]

Doug H. Nuts you have your opinions and I have my opinions

[@Mikayla320]

Great video, do you know how much the guy was scammed out of? Or how many items?

[@GimGumbo]

17k dollars

[@BrokenRRT]

He will get his item back inly if he goes to pick it up. The police will not ship it.

[@RockstarFlipper]

They will work out shipping it back to him. He will provide a label and its done.. pretty simple

[@pavy415]

so all you say you never got the item and you get your money back and get to keep the item?

[@rulesforrebels]

i dont do that but yes that's pretty much how ebay and amazon operate

[@shekeyra100]

why in usa do they leave items out side houses in uk that does not happen

[@chrisdidonna7371]

If i dont get the item ill lyk. Ive never had an issue though and ive bought over 20k worth of guitar accessories and guitars over the last 2 months. Got everything but 1 item and i was refunded and it showed up 2 weeks later and i contacted seller and paid him money back.

[@trickytricky7401]

have been scammed on ebay as a buyer , the seller i bought from had his ebay account had been hacked which meant all my details were given to the scammer , i did get a refund but i had to close my bank , ebay, paypal , and my email account to move away from the cloches of the scammers , it was a nightmare situation . there are thee things you should not do in life , never go sky diving without a parachute , never open an ebay account , and most important say away from paypal.

[@VeganPopTarts]

I have a lot of experience dealing with this crap. here are some of my tips: 1. NEVER accept best offers that are very low because it could be a scam 2. DO NOT issue refunds unless the buyer ships your item back 3. ALWAYS look at feedback the buyer has left for other sellers before you accept offers or let them bid on your stuff 4. Beef up your returns section to state that you will report people who abuse eBay returns 5. If you get a return, record yourself unboxing it, make it a private video on KZbin, and make the eBay returns review dorks watch it if you can. That *might* prevent a bait and switch. If it doesn't, you'll have evidence to show the police and your local media, who can then contact eBay for comment. eBay might refund you that way to save face and not look like jerks who enjoy screwing over hard working sellers.

[@samcostello3644]

If the buyer pays through Paypal, Paypal may automatically take the funds from the seller's account and refund it to the buyer. EBay is doing the EBAY community a disservice when sellers aren't allowed to leave feedback for buyers especially those who don't pay and who pull other scams

[@geoffjoffy]

Seems if you're honest you're at a disadvantage. I have a chargeback against my Paypal account which has basically frozen my business.

[@Pussybootsmusic]

I no longer sell on eBay because you have to accept PayPal. I sell through facebook and free ads and take cash only.

[@AlvaroFierroBeyou]

Could you make a video on Amazon FBA fees? Amazon is going to be changing there fees starting October 2016. (it would be great if you could break down all the fees for us)

[@rulesforrebels]

hey thanks for watching and commenting. id be happy to make a video touching on amazon fees in more depth. in the interum here is a link to the most straightforward calculator for fba fees ive found to date. salecalc.com/amazon

[@thenextstepp]

I have started recording everything in one continuous shot, from testing the item to packaging, it is backwards thinking in my mind since I could just as easily open it back up off camera and replace the contents with garbage but it has saved my butt more than once. Honestly unless eBay gets their head out of their ass sellers are going to be forced to go to certified third party shippers or something.

[@rulesforrebels]

hey next step, thats a good idea, have you ever had to send a video to ebay? my concern is this, will ebay even take the time to watch your video? also, even though you package something up on camera unless you have one continuous shot from packing it to driving it tot he post office to dropping it in the box someone could potentially say you packed it on camera but dropped a different package potentially.

[@thenextstepp]

Rules For Rebels I have actually provided a video to PayPal only once. They actually gave me the idea. I had a dispute with a really shady buyer and after eBay dismissed his case he went to PayPal and the first thing they asked me was if I had photos proving I packaged the item. I asked the PayPal rep what difference it would make since there was clearly no way to provide photos that would prove my case. Prior to this I had simply documented the item thoroughly and packaged everything very well, always did signature confirmation and insured... none of this helped me in this case. After getting burned for $120, not very much I know but still enough to teach me a lesson, I started video recording it. On the one time I did send in a video I won my case but I believe it is hit and miss depending on the rep. I've thought about taking my camera down to the local shipping place and filming the entire process but then I'd have no way to prove the items were working, since I'm mostly selling electronic items these days. I've even thought about seeking out some sort of notary to verify the contents, not sure that would hold weight with PayPal or eBay but it was one of the thoughts I had. If you have any other ideas I'm listening man cause I actually have stopped selling for months at a time because I'm sick of eBay's bias towards sellers.

[@rulesforrebels]

thats awesome to hear. i have a somewhat similar story. i sold a table on ebay it was a marble and wrought iron base basically indestructable. buyer paid by paypal and then had to pick it up, he was local. i told him just to pay cash if he has to pick it up anyway but he insists on paying paypal. he picks up the table, winds up later opening a claim saying its broken or something, again literally impossible to break wrought iron and marble. he winds up winning b/c i dont have tracking. i asked the ebay rep wtf, what am i supposed to do take a picture of me handing him the table, the guys like umm i guess yeah. iw as like you dont know if im handing the table to the buyer or my roomate, thats stupid, he was like oh yeah. basically on pickup in person items if you accept paypal all a buyer has to do is say not received and they get their money back

[@JohntechFL]

I've been so lucky with this. Thankfully I mainly sell live plants. In about 15 years and a couple thousand transactions I only had 1 guy scam me for a $50 item. I should have seen it coming too because when I google mapped his Addy it was an empty lot on the US/CA border in MI. But since it wasn't a pricy item I shipped anyways. I have had 1 package swiped off my door step but luckly that was a $20 brick of coco coir. Wow that thief must of been pissed when he got home with that 22lb box of dirt.

[@pauldianno6464]

i had a couple buyers try that with me. As long as the tracking number shows that it was delivered to their front door whatever happens after that is not my problem.

[@jose-lorenzohunter5696]

eBay makes money off of scammers?

[@chuckydoll373]

Yea

[@Andy-im3kj]

They should've just boxed it out on Facebook Live.

[@rulesforrebels]

lol that would be entertaining

[@Andy-im3kj]

Yeah it would've. I mean a pro boxer fought an internet troll, so why not.

[@MsJulieNicholson]

Thanks for sharing! It was nice to hear justice was served!!!

[@rulesforrebels]

thanks for watching. yeah good to see the seller doesn't always lose

[@iwir3d]

Actually, I have had quite a few packages that get delivered to neighbor houses, marked as delivered on eBay but held at the post office, or simply never arrived. If eBay told me to screw off there would be a lawsuit. Out of every house on my road mine is the only one 1/4 a mile off the road behind all of the other houses and UPS and FedEx can NEVER find my house. UPS once told me my house was in the middle of some where in Africa.... and I live in Indiana, USA. My house is on the opposite side of the street from my mailbox and somewhat down the road so very frequently the post office will just "close enough" and deliver it to any random house they feel like it. That's not even my biggest problem, my biggest problem is they mishandle packages and have delivered packages empty because the item ejected from the box. And when you try and file a claim they ask if you bought insurance..... so I need a do your job right insurance because if you don't theres no consequences? You can't just deliver the package without damaging the contents unless I buy insurance... o.O Just saying not all people on scammers but in my experience 99% of these situations are scams. But implying 100% are is ignorant.

[@R4yzer1]

I've had bad dealings on Ebay and they have a bad rep so ... I no longer do Ebay. I deleted my account on there and i gave one of the sellers I bought from got a negative feedback; which they tried to bribe/buy me into changing to positive by claiming they would give me a 'partial' refund after I changed my feedback. Which i didnt do

[@rulesforrebels]

hey ray, are your bad experiences as a buyer or seller? as far as the "bribing" i dont know the situation obviously but in many instances what you are referring to is called customer service, not bribary. sometimes its mutually beneficial to give the customer a discount. customer is happy, seller doesn't have to take a return, you dont have to send something back, they dont have to pay for return shipping. i have bought items which were used and said new. me and the seller went back and forth and agreed on a price based on things not being accurately described and we both walked away happy

[@picklikeapro6952]

If an eBay scam is a civil matter then stealing from the mall is a civil matter. How is it different? It’s bs either way.

[@lindastonebraker2512]

Enjoyed your video!

[@rulesforrebels]

thanks linda, appreciate it. thank you for watching :)

[@pizzafries]

I got scammed years ago,by somebody who was selling a game system. I didn't pay a whole lot for it,but that's not the point. They never sent me the system. I also,was scammed by a buyer who said I didn't describe what she was getting,because I was trying to be nice and send her extra. So not only,did I lose money I lost the stuff,I sold her. Those are really the only two times i was scammed. I remember,I was selling pictures of dolls and a actress on a CD and clearly said they were CD's. I had about 10 listed and some woman bought,two of them. So I sent them off and it was free shipping. She writes me a few days letter after receiving them. What happened,to the two dolls you were suppose to send? I said huh? What dolls? She said you were selling dolls,ugh no i wasn't. Yes you had dolls listed,I said please go read the description and not only the description,but read the title. Oh! she says,I miss read it. Can i have my money back,I said sure send me the CD's back and I'll refund you. She didn't want to do that,she'd have to pay postage:( Anyhow,reminds me of another item i sold and somebody said it was used,I said no it wasn't used,that's the way it looked when i bought it. I think it was a sweater and it had a string hanging,which didn't affect the sweater at all. She could of clipped it off,but anyhow she got all huffy and so i just refunded her. She paid $2.00,yes! $2.00 and complained about a string hanging.

[@pizzafries]

oh! I forgot to mention,ebay said i sold that woman a hat rack lol instead of a bunch of baby clothes,isn't that funny and i could never get a hold of them to correct them. One thing else people got to watch out for,I got on my ebay one time and there was stuff on there,that i didn't list. I quickly called ebay and told them,that I wasn't selling watches,or computers.

[@mica624]

Yes Sir, its about the buyer who claim that he didn't received the packaged, so far he didn't open a case yet....Thank you so much Sir

[@rulesforrebels]

if they dont open a claim you dont really have an issue. if they go away and dont make a stink about it chances are they were lying trying to get a free product anyway. i run into this pretty frequently.

[@KentuckyRanger]

I'm so tired of selling on eBay because of the scams, I stopped doing it. Why? Because eBay doesn't care, and PayPal ALWAYS sides with the buyer! So I ship the item, then the buyer complains to PayPal, and viola! They get their money back, AND the item! I'm sooo sick of it! I sold something once and the person, after paying, wouldn't pick the item up, and the money was left in limbo for weeks until the person FINALLY came to get the item. I still buy things on eBay, and have yet to be scammed. I respect and feel for people who professionally sell on there because I guarantee they have to deal with the B/S every day. It's refreshing to see one of these creeps getting what they deserve.

[@rulesforrebels]

hey kentucky, totally understandable. i kind of have a rule for myself in terms of the value of items i sell. if its more than im willing to lose i dont sell on there for that exact reason, because if someone says it doesn't work and ships me back their old broken playstation and keeps the new one i sent them they will typically win and there's nothing i can do. on smaller ticket items you still do get the scammers occasionally but its not as worthwhile for someone to play games for a $30 item. ebay is a headache, everyone has to make the choice if its worth the headaches in order to sell on there. is the money worth it.

[@KentuckyRanger]

It really is sad for sellers. eBay takes the stance that the seller is ALWAYS wrong, and the buyer can do no wrong. I sold a DVD player for $200 a while back, and used seals to keep me safe from parts scavengers. It was a high end Sony. When he complained that the player was damaged during shipping to PayPal, they took my money out BEFORE he shipped the item back! And guess who NEVER shipped my item back?... After complaining to PayPal and eBay with no results, I gave up. The jerk got my DVD player for free... I know you're going to say "But he has to show proof he shipped it back!" Well, he generated a tracking number, showing it was delivered to me. What I got was an empty box. It was my word against his, and because he was the buyer, he got away with it... I'm with you on the value thing. I don't sell anything on eBay that's worth more than $30. That way when someone pulls this crap, I'm not out that much anymore.

[@drd6893]

i thought you have to pay before they ship?

[@rulesforrebels]

yes you do pay before they ship but the way ebay and paypal handle disputes typically tends to favor the buyer. for example if you buy a playstation from me, i say its not as described, ebay and paypal will make me allow you to refund. if you send me a box with a brick in it and keep the playstation things get kind of fuzzy and many times ebay will side with the buyer and the seller gets screwed over

[@eduardoig17]

about 2 or 3 weeks ago I sold a pair of shoes and when the package was delivered the buyer messaged be saying that when he got home the box was completely destroyed and said he never received the shoes. I didn't even bothered arguing with him because it was only $20 so I just told him to open a return request and I would refund him his money. I am pretty sure it was a scam but I a college student and did not have the time to argue with hime, PayPal, and eBay and still end up having to refund him.

[@rulesforrebels]

hey eduard, sorry to hear about that man. smart move on your part though. ultimately at the end of the day the buyer always winds up winning, at least in a situation like this, its another thing if they claim they didnt get it and youcan show tracking showing its been delivered. ive always studied ebay policy, i knwo what cases i can win and which i wont but you made a smart move. the buyer would have won so why waste your time and energy on something your going to lose anyhow and get bad feedback for. its part of the game and kind of part of doing business on ebay. the longterm health of your ebay account and paypal account is worth alot more than $20 so i think you made the right move

[@zoommair]

Justice finally prevails

[@rulesforrebels]

yep

[@jasonHadley420]

the shirt.. awesome

[@noahdonnelly241]

In larger towns there are also cyber crimes devisions but most scammers are in different countries so that's why most scammers win

[@rulesforrebels]

i think the larger town thing is a double edged sword. yes they have more resources but at the same time they also have higher priority crimes than you not being happy with the toaster you bought on ebay. in a few of these ebay scam stories where the a scamming buyer has been caught its been small town depts who have time to deal with something like this where as a larger city oftentimes may writeup a report just to appease the person but never do any followup.

[@daveDevoe07]

Hey man! love you content! how does one get in touch with you off air? Is there an email or something?

[@rulesforrebels]

hey dave same name at gmail.

[@daveDevoe07]

I reached out...no reply.

[@rarecoolitems]

Now with being able to sell over Facebook, Amazon, Craigslist and apps like shopifly and letgo... Forget eBay.

[@rulesforrebels]

not sure why you would throw amazon into the mix as amaozn is 10x stricter than ebay and much more likely to suspend you imho. im with you with craigslist, fb, shopify, letgo, etc.

[@Jinkiesaghosthunt]

I just reported somebody who said the item I sent was a scammer the guy never returned the item and left me alone

[@RTGamer64]

it easy to avoid scam selling item on ebay...... put signature request on the item in addition to never send out the item before receive the payment

[@sharkyxxx4057]

good luck getting a signature during covid

[@NFL_Ya_Heard]

Is there an email I can reach you at? I am dealing with a scamming right now!! I will like to talk you about this

[@rulesforrebels]

same name at gmail

[@musicboxcollector]

I've had good luck with eBay. The only time I had an issue was a seller that strangely disappeared for a few days after I won the auction and when they popped up again, I needed to put money on my PayPal and needed one day to do it, the seller got mad and said that I was doing the same time as the last time I bought from them which was another time they disappeared and unregistered for a few days. I did pay the seller and then they unregistered for good. Very odd situation there.

[@rulesforrebels]

ya thats very strange. you wound up getting your items both times though?

[@musicboxcollector]

Rules For Rebels I did but it was strange how the seller would be unregistered and then be active again

[@MusicIsARainbow]

Wow, lots of horror stories here.

[@rulesforrebels]

yeah for the most part ebay buyers are good but as with anything there are some bad apples out there.

[@mica624]

Thank you so much for your advice Sir, Have a great day...

[@rulesforrebels]

hey mica thanks for wtaching and thansk for the kind words

[@shadow5273]

i know my postal office is terrible had bills and packages and such delivered to the wrong address their better nowadays but few years ago it would happen least once every few weeks

[@rulesforrebels]

yeah i dont trust usps with anything of high value at all.

[@dogemasterd9335]

Lol I was searching how to scam people on eBay better but this popped up and btw it’s not hard in any way to scam em it’s very ez I did it with a switch but I gave them a rock

[@opgamer-fv8ru]

Can u get in trouble 4 that?

[@TomO-if7nh]

I've only ever bought. But am thankful for the eBay feedback.

[@rulesforrebels]

no problem tom, thanks for watching buddy

[@TheAirheaded1]

Simple tip, that I had to deal with. The guy said "My brass horse head bookshelf holders were broken in half upon receiving" and instantly thought that's a red flag of course, I mean maybe if the postal service was playing football with my package, who knows maybe one could of broke in half, but BOTH OF THEM, c'mon let's be serious here dude, so, I just simply said "send me a picture of them broken in half and I will gladly refund your money" but he claimed no usb cord for his camera , so knew it was game over for him then. So we went back in forth and E-bay kicked in , and no money lost that round! Weeehooooo (knock on wood) Them damn scammers hurt the whole system! I wish those horse heads came too life and bit his ear off!

[@pacukluka]

Thats why i pack a packet of plastic explosives in everything i ship, knowing that if they try to scam me i can get my revenge ;)

[@HappyQuailsLC]

I hear so many knowlegable sellers talk about these scams, and I agree they have become prevelant, I was scammed as a buyer! But given the circumstances why do I never hear anyone say, " Just don't accept returns"??? It would limit sone of the scams and how about using eBay''s fullfillment program? Would you please consider doing a folliow up video to the scammer video on the subject of the practicality of using their fullfillment center options? Thanks!

[@sharkyxxx4057]

you can check no returns accepted.. ebay doesnt back that up even if that option is checked on selling listing....

[@thepetar3676]

Bro it happens all the time not with big shipping companys but more like the express shipping company some guy delivers the packages from his car rings the doorbell and runs or it gets stolen off my door step i have security cameras now but i hated when the leave high end electrics in front of the door and no ones home.

[@rulesforrebels]

yeah ive seen a lot of those cctv videos of people snatching packages off porches

[@thepetar3676]

LOL happens to me during the spring and summer months i instilled security cameras to target those thieves i will link my system if anyone is looking for some good but cheap www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B014CXKFXC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 www.amazon.com/SANNCE-Security-Surveillance-Weatherproof-Technology/dp/B01HPT8H4E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491170016&sr=8-2&keywords=Sannce+8CH+720P+DVR+1TB+HDD+Security+camera+system

[@slogoman3152]

recently i as a seller sold lots of items to one person i sent signed for delivery she signed she contacted me saying box was empty box didnt arrive damaged i have courier proof ebay gave hera refund for £700 i have no items no money and defects on my account that i now have to improove or get kicked off, who cares kick me off its not like im ever going to sell on there again thanks there are many other places to sell FREE now so i started selling on them and doing well ebay is going down they are only interrested in argos and shops, not private sellers which is who they made there money from

[@phlodel]

eBay is going down in flames due to scammers.

[@beth-rg8bm]

I ALWAYS box my products in front of whomever I'm using for shipping so I actually have a 3 party witness!

[@rulesforrebels]

what do you mean you box them like at the UPS store in front of the person? i guess everything you can do to cover your back is good but im not sure if the person at the counter would remember me if i did that plus good luck even getting ebay or amazon to take the time to listen to the witness. it is good thinking though everything you can do to cover your back is good.

[@mdlanor5414]

Sometimes a mistake is made.I purchased an item from eBay. Received confirmation that item was delivered. No item. I asked my wife if she bought item into our home. She said no. Within minutes after talking to my wife,I noticed a box in our dining room. It was the item. My wife forgot that she brought item in house. Luckily, I hadn't contacted the seller. I would have been made a fool !!! This is, I would think, is not common. But mistakes will and or can happen. Luckily we live in a safe neighborhood. Many times, neighbors from different streets, have brought items to me, that were delivered to their address. I have received other neighbors items plenty of times. What I would do is take a photo of item. It got too the point, where I had to go see the postmaster. I didn't tell the postmaster, that I had photos. When the person who delivered the mail was confronted. The postmaster contacted me. Told me that the person delivering the mail,denied delivering items to wrong addresses. They lied.I went to post office. Showed the postmaster the photos. No more deliveries to wrong addresses.

[@rulesforrebels]

you bring up a great point. the first thing i do when someone claims an item wasn't delivered when tracking shows it was is ask if they live with anyone, if anyone else might have brought the package in ie wife, kids, etc? if they say no ill ask them to ask their mail carrier or a neighbor maybe if they delivered to the wrong address. i think that is the most common though someoen else living in the household grabs it and doesn't notify the recipient.

[@DougHNuts-ee3vn]

Didn't eBay once have a 3rd party verification service? Maybe it was square trade? You would sell a product, the 3rd party would verify the condition and then the buyer would get it.

[@rulesforrebels]

not sure if its still around but yeah I think it was like $50 bucks and they would check an item out for you. i think it was mainly for cars and boats and things like that but i imagine larger ticket items as well. not sure if thats still around anymore

[@davidr7743]

i said i will try to pay for a item i might not i said and he shipped it i was thinking not to do anything let it come and delete ebay or send it back im just a kid on ebay im scared

[@ky-gp4sz]

Once I bought a gameboy advance link cable on eBay for less than $2 to this day I still don't have a gameboy advance link cable, I lost my $2 as well

[@rulesforrebels]

did you open up an ebay/paypal claim? did the seller ever provide you with tracking? what happenned to it?

[@ky-gp4sz]

@@rulesforrebels If I remember correctly, I think absolutely nothing happened.

[@rohanofelvenpower5566]

Yes the camera trick is good to know, thanks :p

[@sweetnightingale85]

The cops dont do raids or searches for ebay items 😂😂 that persons story was bull scams happen but the cops just tell you it is a civil matter go to small claims court.

[@madconcerned9720]

I can't imagine someone being this stupid, but sweetheart, when you are scamming $30,000, the police take action. You probably are a thief yourself huh?

[@chuckydoll373]

mad concerned no she’s telling the truth they sold me to do that also

[@jodyhawley5957]

good for the victim in story ★for being so vigilant and documenting everything for proof and reference! 😁 Hope eBay soon starts to update their policies on returns/refunds (PayPal also)

[@rulesforrebels]

hey jo, yeah rarely do things work out like that but glad to see the good guys won one

[@jodyhawley5957]

Do you know what punishment sentence was given for this?

[@rulesforrebels]

i imagine a slap on the wrist but ill have to try to follow up and see

[@jodyhawley5957]

If you do I would appreciate it. Surely a bit of others is curious too. Thanks

[@lindastonebraker2512]

First time I ever used eBay I was scammed by someone with a great rating. I got all but $75 back..very disappointing I gave someone my hard earned money and never used eBay again!

[@rulesforrebels]

thats a shame, typically someone with good feedback is a good egg. how much did you lose out on? why did you only get $75 back?

[@crusader3012]

Fair dinkum you sellers think that just because you get your payment upfront and you dump it into the postal system that you dont have to worry about it anymore. Generally you sellers just clam up and leave the stress and chasing up to buyer. Its your job to chase it up with the carrier and inform the buyer whats going on.

[@blairlohnes8103]

I bought a laptop on Amazon for 8.99 from a seller called FGHFGH N. Do you think that was a scam? Sure seems like it. And if so, what's the worst that can happen?

[@rulesforrebels]

yeah thats crazy. did it say working condition or was it just for parts or something? like you said no harm in buying worst case scenario amazon will give you your money back

[@blairlohnes8103]

Yeah it says brand new haha

[@lesterriley9795]

i buy items on amazon every month and have had the fake track info scam pulled several times. in 7 years. but post office lost items more often. Often 3rd path sellers work well some obviously

[@rulesforrebels]

hey lester, what do you mean fake track info? they just put in a bs number? i had a funnyone recently. i bought a prime item on dec 15. dec 24 comes around still dont have it. call obviously talk to someone out of the usa and am promised it will be there next day. i know they can't promise or gurantee that but whatever. finally i call up dec 28 and am like this is ridiculous, i dont even need this item anymore i made other arrangements. teh rep agreed and refunded and sure enough it shows up yesterday.

[@rarecoolitems]

It also seems like eBay is quick to ban small sellers for anything

[@rulesforrebels]

its not that its quick to ban sellers, honestly i think amazon is 10x stricter than ebay. the problem with being a small seller is if i sell 1000 items a month and have 1 bad sales its like 0.01% negative experiences from buyers. if you sell 2 items a month and you have a bad experience now you have 50% of yoru customers are not satisfied with your service.

[@meganarpasi]

Wow small town PD is right! Ours would never go that far much less follow up lol

[@rulesforrebels]

right same here. i think he really lucked out

[@charlesryan9]

just wondering who disliked this?

[@trainers.stash.]

probably a scammer.

[@buddhablessmebuddhablessyo3057]

your mommy

[@TheBlizzkon]

i did once buy many computer parts and was waiting for the package to arrive and waited days after it said delivered on the tracking and found out that it was someone that i live with that accepted the package and not telling me. fuck i hate things like that. The person had hidden my package for a week

[@chuck-681]

This alone sounds a little thin for a search warrant, there was probably more going on there. Sadly by the time it gets through the courts the item will probably be obsolete. Imagine trying to sell an iPhone 5 today that you just got back from the evidence room that was new the day it shipped. Such bullshit. I hope they charge the guy for any depreciation.

[@rulesforrebels]

good point. yeah just thought it was pretty wild the police even cared. nothing would ever happen here in chicago if you called the cops about an ebay transaction

[@nyclife7868]

in big cities the cops will get involved if you have high ranking friends in the police dept if not you can file a report but they wont get to it anytime soon meaning proboly over 6 montha. I got close friends in the NYPD and they always look me out if i have issues.

[@rulesforrebels]

thats always good. sometimes someone local can put in a call to the person or local dept but the problem is you still need the authorities in the other persons city to take action or it wont do anything. i think this guy is very lucky how things worked out, all the stars seemed to lineup for him there.

[@hellrazor35]

I've had someone ship something before I paid for it and I indeed paid for it, otherwise that is THEFT. Actually bought Final Fantasy XV and I received 2 copies, I returned one because I didn't pay for it. Integrity is extremely important.

[@rulesforrebels]

hey precision, totally agree with you. recently one of my suppliers shipped me 18k worth of excess product. my partner and i kind of joked about should we tell them but in the end i know if the situation were reversed i would appreciate the honestly, that and im a big believer in karma. your a good person but many people would keep it. ive had people who i know i overshipped stuff to, ive politely called them and said hey i accidentally gave you x amount or whatever only to have them deny it when i know 1000% they got the wrong shipment.

[@hellrazor35]

Rules For Rebels Yeah that's happened to us as well, we've accidentally shipped two items to a person and most of the time you'll never see it returned, and our customers are some of the best so it's probably worse for other businesses...

[@rafarush45]

This wont happen in Mexico soon. The camera trick is Nice. Please ask the seller for EVIDENCE of this case.

[@musashi-san____1409]

Why the hell would you ship to someone with sketchy feedback? I'd rather take my chances with someone with zero feedback.

[@rulesforrebels]

to some extent you dont really have a choice. if you run around cancelling transactions because you dont like someone's feedback your going to hurt your seller rankings and possibly get your account closed. also unless someone has a track record of pissing off multiple people we know ebay buyers and sellers can be difficult so a single sketchy feedback could be the person complaining is the bad one or difficult one

[@garyvancamp5452]

😊 These scammers get a track record and after 2 or 3 times trying to pull these types of scams, ebay/amazon ect. will put there account, name and so on on file. After so many times they just close there accounts 👍 these online companies pay big bucks for security so these scammers will only get away with this a few times. I have also seen it were USPS will get involved and go after these types of scams, that is trouble for the folks trying this type of scam.

[@TheBrainSquared]

A few months ago I sold one of my old Galaxy s4, it was in excellent condition and I sold it for less than it was worth because I wanted to get rid of it. So I sold it, the buyer sent me pictures of a phone that was not what I sold, same model though.. Said that I sent him a broken phone and not only was able to keep the device, he got his money back and I was flagged.. The first flag since me being a ebay member since 1998. Ebay and Paypal fucked me royally..

[@lydiasinclair1126]

where did you get that shirt? My mom would love to have one. lol. she's a green card holder and would wear it with pride. thx

[@zarcyne]

IC3.gov is the FBIs Internet Crime reporting website for anyone curious.

[@ebaycriticradio3640]

This seller also uses the seller ID "hubcapjoes"