Industrial chiller, exploration, and power | Ep 4 | ONI - Frosty - Ceres

[@Shiori9]

The bonbon trees need their branches to produce nectar as the flower on them creates it through the light. By harvesting the branches automatically, you will be struggling get nectar.

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Discovered this in the next video. DOH!

[@LDaemontus]

Just a warning, because it happened to me, but because you cannot automate the wood heaters, you need to disable them or design a cooling system to dump the heat because it doesn't take very long until your rooms become ovens for dupes. My mess hall, with just a single heater, became an angry red mess of heat. So, that's a heads up for anyone. Unless its been fixed through an update, I'd take precautions in the early game until you can figure out better solutions for temperature regulation.

[@NateHuff24]

What if you use a thermosensor to limit some aspect of the wood heater? (For example, connect to an auto sweeper or a door that blocks the wood from being accessed.

[@Swcher]

@@NateHuff24 It uses grams per second and can store kilos. Any regulation that way would lag behind. I just put the heater on a mechanized airlock instead, and later stopped using them.

[@NateHuff24]

@@Swcher Ah, ok. I wasn't aware.

[@nazgu1]

I think you can use the good old "door as floor" trick to disable/enable buildings.

[@Hanmacx]

How about reversing the Cooling Loop? Build a System the cools down the Farms, while using the extra heat to heat up the living area ?

[@nazgu1]

Echo: builds a door to keep the shine bug in the room with the trees Shine bug: immediately escapes into the next area

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

I've been Nazzed again.

[@UncleKennybobs]

Thrilling.

[@ravingodd]

Farm series: "We're going to save all the animals" Ice series: "14:07"

[@rewto5131]

Echo: "Even though we haven't been taming them, the Bamoths have been producing us some Bamoth patties. I'll let you guess where those come from." *Very next scene* Echo: "But....." Me: "I see what you did there."😂

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

lol

[@vonVile]

Bier Tier did an interesting take for power. He used the new Mercury Lamps to charge Solar Panels. You might want to play around with them to see how good that combination is.

[@defiantly_emily]

Really enjoying seeing how you’re having to alter gameplay to work with / around the environment. Certainly giving me ideas with my own colony.

[@Sam2kay]

Mercury is great for the new light source - great for farming spigot seals by putting 100% of the light needed on each branch of the trees.

[@Y2KNW]

I've found a great use for mercury: cooling other substances in a tube-and-body style heat exchanger. Aquatuner running nectar (which is already passively available on the map) down to -70C in a "tank" of mercury will very nicely chill ethanol (or whatever gas you wanna put thru it) because the mercury passes temperatures so efficiently.

[@ellenkuang8853]

I was also going to suggest cooling. Mainly due to Echo's experiment he tried that one time on specific heat capacity vs thermal conductivity. Thermal conductivity ends up winning out overall with all else equal. The vaporization point is much higher than polluted water and equivalent to crude oil, just with much better thermal conductivity. It'd be able to transition temps in a hurry.

[@jacekbonitv3414]

I love your progress. Thanks for cutting away the less interesting progress. Even if I have to wait longer for your videos, I'd much rather watch them than those of others who leave all the crap in or even artificially drag them out. I bow my head.

[@nazgu1]

>13:40 Doggy seal unicorns? I like it!

[@critaspaine]

You might not want to kill all your Sporechids. One of the story elements has a use for them...

[@Kr0noZ]

Once he drowns them to remove the spores he can uproot them for seeds, also the fossil story thing seems to have one particular spawn (the amber fossil) always sitting right next to a Sporechid so there's bound to be at least one additional one somewhere on the map.

[@DannyByWest]

7:57 Yeah, sure Shaggy, blame the innocent little pip for things they can’t even begin to comprehend!

[@richardroyster217]

Love these video series always keeps me wanting to push my colonies further. Keep up the great work!!!

[@Ethos711]

Mercury: cold area liquid lock? At least until something else is available. I mean, I wouldn't want to go through it, but the dupes won't mind.

[@xXMGVXx]

Small note that mercury is a metal and a very good thermal conductor. You need to vacuum one side or the temperature will go through even if the gases stay in the right places.

[@KaedysKor]

@@xXMGVXx Liquid locks in general are very bad for temperature insulation, the point of them is gas isolation. If you want both, you need to use a double liquid lock with a vacuum between. Pretty much standard practice for isolating steam rooms and industrial saunas.

[@SamuelDancingGallew]

I think the mercury would work really well as a material cooling bath. Just pass a little bit of hot metal through it, and presto! Your fresh volcanic supplies are nice and cool so your dupes don't burn themselves on it.

[@missasch]

Awesome video! If you want to use the Bonbon trees for Nectar you don't want to harvest the branches. The Nectar production is tied in with the branches being fully grown.

[@ktownpunkjr.1946]

"The wood heaters keep it warm" *-10°C*

[@gcl2783]

Life on the Ridge is frigid.

[@iccolo]

yay i got my hat

[@phatbman]

Glad to see another video!

[@johnchiz54]

use mercury (or ethanol) in your oxygen farm. to reduce the sublimation of the oxylite from stifling the consumption of CO2

[@shire7949]

you could kill the sporechid bacteria with 1 or 2 wheezeworts due to radiation, also clean bacteria in polluted water from bathrooms

[@baba226]

I think the mercury is best used to make some mercury lamps for a bonbon/seal ranch (even if I havn't yet come to that tech level)

[@xaviermcaleer3428]

Yay! Looking forward to following the new chaos season

[@Toria00]

Never thought I'd see the day that a CO2 geyser becomes beautiful.

[@geeksdo1tbetter]

also for ranching the slicksters

[@johncundiss9098]

30 DTU's per watt babycakes. Good video as always.

[@Hanmacx]

Sadly you still can't crush Ice into snow 😅

[@DuelScreen]

22:25 Move one of the extra shine bugs to the dark cavern. You only need one per cavern.

[@misspotato813]

Why not use a sunken 3 tall liquid lock? That way they jump through it without getting soggy?

[@flowergurl1009]

I put the pips in my great hall to keep them in their livable range since there's gonna be a wood burner there anyways

[@cyberwarlord7363]

Making a glass dome gmo greenhouse on the surface for free light and radiation.

[@christopherg2347]

- mercury might be needed as coolant. Brine and Poluted water have a rather high chance to freeze in the pipes, given the low temepreatures. Mecury goes down lower and has several hundred degrees to spare before evaporating - the spigot seals might still suffer from vacuum. Keep in mind that one formula uses internal temeperature, the other external. In a vacuum, the seals actually get too warm, having no gasses to dump heat into - could you start with Steam engines? You have a Steam Geysir as initial and emergency fuel source. A volcano as the main source.

[@BlakeLaFae]

too much hot obsidian? debree chiller time baybeeeeeeeeeee

[@gizel4376]

if you ever have a probleme where there's zombie spore everywhere, my solution is to put slimelung everywhere, slimelung gonna overwrite every zombie spore

[@samueltrusik3251]

Finallz, natural ranching without any of that pesky fertilization required!

[@HolyRain89]

Before update. CO2 geyser is trash. After update. LOVE CO2 GEYSER.❤

[@Kr0noZ]

Well, if you have a use for the product, any geyser is good. If you don't, it's always trash. CO2 used to be the enemy.

[@OdinAUT]

Industrial Cheeser

[@netkitten]

Don't worry the hot obsidian isn't a problem just place a water pit under it and it'll cool off nicely when it drops in there.😊

[@nightshadedim3396]

mercury moves heat fast, in small amounts you can use it to improve conductivity transfer I'd put a layer of liquid mercury in a battery box, or on your steam turbines liquid mercury also would make agood heat pump with a short loop

[@overlordkye]

I look forward to seeing what your industrial... er... igloo? does with its heat output. I'm still skeptical that a frosty base could be maintained for any significant length of time; in order to make late game, you're pretty much obligated to make regular use of machines that produce a ton of heat. Still really fun to watch, though.

[@littlebear274]

I know they say that the critters take damage when outside their *livable* range, but I've definitely had pips taking damage and dying when outside their *comfort* range. The minimum temperature I ever had them in was -20 and they should be able to survive ten degrees lower than that.

[@ZeroCGR2]

Why not build an airlock below the aloe vera ? That way the ammount of carbon dioxide escaping to a lower dig would be minimised

[@ifirez]

I kind of like the idea of having mercury on some temperature loops. I worked with some large sauna before, wich contain geisers/volcanoes inside, acuatuners, or even use the magma below to create more temperature. And i ended up with some steel machines breaking because of them temperature increasing in some spaces, and not having time to disperse arround. I thing mercury does a perfect job on "sucking" this temperature raise and quiclky dispersate it arround, due to this low specific heat capacity. Ill have to check if its worth tho, as i didnt have too much time to play it lately.

[@ekimmak]

I wish there was a way to heal critters, to make up for the fact that pips can easily die due to the icebox world the DLC has.

[@pierrotdeanau1848]

If they are groomed, they heal ! But if you want to keep the pips wild, you have to be careful to care to them only once

[@monkeybee11]

ive only made it to 6:33 so yes monkey is doing the not best idea and commiting before finishing the video but ive found a good way to deal with the zombie spores in the frosty planet pack DLC is connor build a mercury tile then connor build a normal tile so the murcery floods and brakes the flower dont know if thats considered cheating or not tho

[@BouncingTribbles]

PUT THE PIPS IN THE DINING ROOM/BEDROOMS!

[@thelicand3931]

Sounds like you watch him too, but especially on the cold planet Francis John found that liquid Mercury is useful for a liquid lock near the main base

[@ExcelInstructor]

with next gameplay: download the addo that allows you to select the size of asteroids. play SO. make all asteroids as big aas possible. Play :)

[@jesternario]

So, is there a chance of doing an all vegetarian run in this DLC?

[@IamCoalfoot]

The most I do with Mercury is just putting it in enclosed loops; no power, it's not worth that, just moves cold from an area with lots of cold still to a farm that needs it. It doesn't move _much_ chill/heat around, but it's free once set up. Then cycling pipes through tiles with Hydrogen chilled with the gas coolers can let you have a small Hydrogen loop cover a large area with Mercury pipes. ... also there's some kind of Mercury lights? But I don't know about those, they seem redundant to me lol.

[@littlebear274]

The mercury lights give a TON of light compared to standard ceiling lights. It would be useful for solar generators and bonbon trees.

[@BaranErdeser]

26:16 pineapple skewers

[@stoof5997]

Why does Echo want to use iron ore for everything over the cinnabar?

[@geeksdo1tbetter]

He mentioned early on that it seemed scarce on this map

[@flowergurl1009]

I used mercury as a liquid lock at one point 😂

[@wChris_]

you should use an industrial sauna, just because its the total opposite of the asteroid.

[@Nicke422]

Its echoing time (its 11 pm rn)

[@danialfahmimnazri9780]

Make a giant inefficient chillroom for all the mercury?

[@derCzub]

Reason you want to get rid of the wood heater asap: heat, co2 and a shit load of dupe labor. just go for warm sweater. Do you think running 2 petroleum generators (4kw) on a conductive wire (2 kw) is a good idea? It can work but when you have to repair the wire the benefit in ressources will melt downpPretty quickly, additionally heavy watt wire is just future proof.

[@dehb1ue]

I don’t think the heat per watt benefit for the petroleum generator will hold when you count the heat and power used by the ethanol distiller.

[@EchoRidgeGaming]

Very true. This is only the case without using ethanol distillers and only getting the ethanol from the seals.

[@dcao6464]

literally just checked to see if you had uploaded

[@Endinador]

Why do you eat extra flox eggs? Maybe it's better to make a starvation ranch with shearing station to get wood? Like drecko with reed fiber and plastic

[@ethanblack5642]

I comment to help statistics

[@crownedcrow7745]

The amount of pacifist being printed is astonishing.

[@quesecchu7026]

solid mercury in an industrial freezer?

[@beheroot]

23:41 apples to oranges. compare hevy watt to upgradet heavy watt, not conductive. You need to do shenanigans with hw joint plate which transfers temperature, you cant put it in the walls, and is ugly as f ;) Heaviwatt conductive on the other hand is not so ugly, but requires skill to put it. if you want to power up metal refinery you do it on hw wire... its better. and faster :) You should rush to ranch bamoth and wool coats for your dupes - saves tons of labour and runing from toping heaters

[@Kr0noZ]

You can build heavy watt plates in a way to stop heat transfer, but it's a bit of a hassle (using a vacuum tile between double walls). Anyway, heavy watt being ugly can be managed with dedicated utility shafts, but that will likely be a future echo problem once his power needs go above the 2KW limit xD

[@beheroot]

@@Kr0noZ yes yes i know that, but building vacuum 'joint plate' is pain in the ass. when it is nesesery it's nessesery. My point being: comparing "fat wire" to "thing wire" is pointless. They have different usage.

[@Khaim.m]

Is there a reason you don't lock open the doors in your base? Having dupes pause for a second every time they go in or out of a room drives me nuts.

[@KOMPIBUTUT]

first!

[@ZeroCGR2]

Why not build an airlock below the aloe vera ? That way the ammount of carbon dioxide escaping to a lower dig would be minimised