THIS MISTAKE COST US THOUSANDS!!

[@brucelester6918]

We are moving to Arizona in April and have been looking at RVs. We will avoid La Mesa RV like the plague.

[@superdave1949]

My first job 50 years ago was transferring auto titles in Texas. Out-of-state vehicle purchases and people relocating to Texas were a constant headache, especially regarding taxes. Bottom line: don't trust the dealer, EVER! Talk to your state's DMV first and make sure you know what needs to happen to avoid unnecessary expense and frustration.

[@mitchellmadness222]

My husband said that you guys should look into claiming out of state taxes paid on your 2022 tax return. You may be able to recoup some of the money that way. Hope that helps!

[@gmanzo2147]

Yes, I was just going to say, that, you may be entitled to a refund on out of state taxes.

[@2labmom]

Exactly hope this helps.

[@guntherflume7129]

I smell a rat here , I won’t be buying from this dealer, you have helped a lot of others avoid this problem, THANK YOU

[@foxiedogitchypaws7141]

The rat is AZ has Hobbs D and Louisiana has a R. That's the difference

[@JanetsJourneys]

Ugh - what a rough go! I love your transparency - you didn't have to tell us about this, but you did. Moreover, you did it with the heart to warn others by your experience. One of the many things I love about you two! In my life, I call things like this paying tuition at the school of life. Thanks for helping the rest of us!!

[@EECCTravels]

Thanks for this! It was a very frustrating and expensive situation.

[@wernerheidemann9645]

How can the dealer register you RV without an address in that state

[@wernerheidemann9645]

Something very fishy

[@Zoot_of_Anthrax]

I havent even watched the video yet, but GIRL, you are rocking that pixie hair and i love it on you. Honestly better than when it was long, your beauty just shines instead of being hidden.

[@EECCTravels]

Awe thank you 😊

[@victoriaarmstrong8329]

Yes I agree the pixie is so cute and it makes your eyes pop!!

[@brandikorte8151]

Yes!, I love her short hair so much better! It suits her perfectly.

[@mariecasasnovas5945]

Wow that was a nasty move by that car dealership. An expensive lesson learned. Enjoy your RV you’ve earned it. Thanks for sharing that I’m sure most people would never know about this sneaky and seemingly unethical money grab.

[@EECCTravels]

We sure didn’t know and wish we did!

[@Patrick_Ross]

I had heard La Mesa RV were a bunch of sheisters but now you confirmed it for me. Thanks!

[@johnandros3034]

Be very very very very careful dealing with La Mesa RV.

[@horizon42q]

I bought every one of my new motorhomes out of state. I never paid sales tax. 4 motorhomes 1999, 2004, 2007, 2020 all different Rv dealers. I took the paperwork back . Paid sales tax and title in my home state. The dealer misinformed you, you should go after that crooked dealer. La Mesa is crooked. I would get a lawyer after La Mesa. I also bought 7 brand new cars that same way. The dealers never screwed me. Every Rv dealer knows how to sell an RV to someone out of state.

[@CookingWithKaylaD]

Same thing happened to my husband and myself, but in Kentucky. We ended up paying the taxes in our state. Then we filed a case with the Better Business Bureau online. We submitted all of our documents from the sale and the documents for where we paid our taxes in our state. The Better Business Bureau contacted the dealership. Two weeks later we received a certified check for the amount that we had to pay for our taxes in our state from the dealership. The Better Business Bureau remove the report. It takes a little time but it’s worth it to file a report with a Better Business Bureau. It’s a faster process if you submit all your paperwork out front and your receipts. It shouldn’t take more than one month to complete your case. Just thought I’d share this information with you.

[@yogerke]

Oh you are in our state!! Come to Camarillo in Ventura county. We would love to take you out for lunch or dinner in our area !!!

[@williamtravis9301]

I bought my 2022 Winnebago Travato KL online at NIRVC. I live in Dallas and the NIRVC here didn't have the van here, it was in Las Vegas. I flew there to buy it and the staff there were great. They handled everything with my Credit Union here in Texas and the paperwork went smoothly. When I registered the van here in Dallas I actually got over a $1200 refund from the State because the tax was overpaid. Needless to say, NIRVC did a great job dealing with this out of state customer.

[@dena-mo118]

Oh, wow! What a tough situation. Glad you were able to get everything resolved to a lesser rate even though you shouldn't have had to at all. Thanks for the heads up. Great information to know. Thanks for sharing.

[@addiejacobs]

Sorry you all had to go through that, but I appreciate you all telling us as it's great information to know.

[@davidlynds9962]

We had a similar experience and we found out we could get a PO Box in the state that we had purchased it in and became a state resident at that time so we did not have to pay the sales tax. We came back to our state because we had it registered to our other state home PO Box.

[@kimwimer7308]

That’s what I thought they could have done.

[@chriscesafsky7498]

I am sorry that you went through all that. My husband bought me a Suburu Crosstreck 5 years ago. We went to the Dealership. Picked out the car we wanted. They took us to the finance office. Showed us what was what. We made an apt to come back the next day to get the car. We went to our bank and got a cashiers check to pay for vehicle. Got to the finance department and they proceeded to have us sign a bunch of paperwork. I looked at my husband and said, " do they know that we have a cachiers check right now to buy this? The finance guy wanted us to finance the car. We said no. We will NOT have any bills ever. We were getting up to leave at that point ( after an hour ) of dealing with them. Finally I said , either you want this cashier's check or you don't and will go to the other dealership? which is it? Well after awhile, they took the check. Yeah, I feel your pain. :(

[@willgaukler8979]

... see is all about that money ...

[@charlottependerstaph6683]

This happened to us…bought a car in Texas. Paid Texas sales tax. Live in a different state, so, I contacted Texas comptroller’s office and they were gracious. They explained what forms I needed to get the difference back. The dealership, high end and up their own flowery make and model,didn’t do squat for us.

[@lizahermandez57]

I am glad things worked out better for you. It’s a shame people are not more upfront in sales.

[@lemuelcasillas7572]

Thanks for the heads up. I’ve actually looked at RVs at La Mesa RV site. I’m from out of state; no RV from La Mesa for me.

[@bigezcc]

I feel your pain. I live just outside New Orleans and bought my new vehicle at a New Orleans East dealership 10 days before Katrina. We evacuated to Tennessee, our house went underwater as well as the dealership. After a month in Tennessee, brought my car to dealership in Memphis for minor issues. They had it for several days and each time I called I was getting the run- around about when it would be ready. Finally the sales manager told me the company had no record of me buying the car!!

[@bigezcc]

Long story short after many temp tags in Tennessee and Louisiana, I ended up paying another sales tax to register the car in Mississippi (don't ask) then finally a year and a half later once we were back in my house, my Louisiana license plate arrived in the mail!!

[@CruisingtheworldwithJackie]

There is a rv channel vancaskeys that had trouble with la Mesa too.

[@weezer52me]

Welcome to California, again! I hope you have a great time here. As for your RV...so sorry to hear what you went through. I had heard many years ago to never buy a car out of state. Now I know why. Thank you for sharing your story.

[@vanessabullock36]

I knew you were in Oceanside! I recognized exactly where you were immediately! That's my beach! I walked that beach for years! I'm in Florida now but I was there for 28 years. Sorry, you went thru all that!

[@paulaa2280]

So sorry about what happened! I have to say Alisa, I LOVE your short hair now that it’s coming in. Frankly I loved it when you first had to cut it but now, you look fantastic!

[@admtim]

La ‘Mess’ RV! Appreciate your honesty. We almost just made the same mistake

[@tamiellis2426]

Ohhhh that is just SO wrong! But, a really good "buyer beware". Thank you for your video, and always watching out for others.

[@johnbolton5569]

Wow! That really sucks! But thanks for the video. Hopefully, you help the few people avoid the same problem.

[@lindarussell9781]

I've come across MANY reviews on LaMesa with similar issues. Apparently price & sale is smooth and easy, it's the after effect that they suck at.

[@rickthogode94]

Thank you for the heads up. Sorry that happy to you!

[@RamblinRoadies]

We live in California, and bought in Utah, and had a very good experience. Nothing like your experience. Enjoy the San Diego area.

[@robinmcfadden3909]

Wow I’m so sorry you had this issue. I bought mine in Ohio and paid Ohio tax but the dealership sent me a package that had a document from Ohio showing the amount of tax I paid. When I went to register in California, I gave them all my paperwork and I just paid the difference between the tax in Ohio and the tax in California. I didn’t have a trade in though. What a mess for you!

[@maura6375]

🌺THANK YOU FOR THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION 👍

[@spmarsh3747]

That was terrible! I am so sorry that happened, thank you for sharing, you may very well have saved someone else thousands of dollars!

[@EECCTravels]

Yep, that’s why we decided to make this video so it doesn’t happen to someone else!

[@andreas4268]

@@EECCTravels Alissa, you and Jason are the real deal….we appreciate your content and happy to see all your adventures!

[@debracurrie3023]

Tha k you so much for your information. We are going to purchase a Ram solis in 2023 and probably out of state. Thank you for helping and now I know…..no title execute state we live in. Forever grateful.

[@EECCTravels]

This is why we made this video! Glad to help!!

[@davidlantz4136]

la Mesa rv did you dirty and they created the problem so they should of paid the taxes. I bought all three of my rvs in other states and no problem. people shouldn't buy from la Mesa rv because there not a honest business. sorry for your inconvenience and tanksvfir sharing info. to many rv dealers are scammers

[@bones1492]

REAL talk ... You have HELPED many !!

[@EECCTravels]

👍👍

[@gimlithomasthomas2016]

I love living here in the UK. None of that rubbish here. Come on over and stay 😊

[@bobbywilliams5656]

I admire you for not slamming them, but it sounds like the dealership in Texas was outstanding and the one in Arizona....to put it bluntly......mucked up.

[@teleensantillan3947]

Thank you for giving this information.

[@DoctorCara]

Ugh! We bought our RV in LA and live in TX and they just sent us a check because we paid too much in taxes!

[@lindathompson6753]

We had the same problem with our Travato because we bought ours of out of state.

[@meandzogo]

Glad you got it sorted out, van life is amazing but comes with so many unforeseen challenges in addition to the known ones. Definitely not an easy lifestyle or purchase but so worth it! Beautiful van!

[@wu.s]

I like your video because you show us almost everything. Nothing hidden is very important for me

[@hollypotter6989]

In Ga. It's an Ad Valorem tax on registering out of state vehicles. We call it the Georgia FU tax.

[@dawncore9863]

Thank Y'all so much for sharing your story! We plan on trading ours in for a smaller rig when we retire. I will ABSOLUTLY remember your story!! Being from Louisiana and currently living in Texas, I know how different things can be when dealing with other states!

[@philhardy6470]

Thanks for sharing, great info. For the company that sold you the Van, was just a sale to them. They knew what was going to happen.

[@pastorcharliehoward]

Thanks so much guys. So sorry you went through this. But SUPER GREAT of you WARNING ⚠️ Others!!! We know you bounced back even HIGHER for this!!!! BlessU

[@happysweety123]

Sorry for what you had been through for a RV. Thank you for sharing the experiences. I did buy a van out of state that agency was in Texas. It looked like the auto agents in Texas knew the procedure better than other states. I had bought the van by bidding on Ebay and I won it. It was 18 years ago. I did not know any procedure on it. We paid several hundred dollars to fly over to state Texas, tried a ride, was satisfied, paid with cashier check, then drove back to Ca. in two days. I paid state tax in CA then. Even now I did not know there was different laws until watched your video. Thank you for sharing 🙃

[@alvinng5034]

That is pretty bad what you guys went thru. We live in CA but bought our 5th wheel in Oregon. Everything worked out the way your 1st RV went, I dont understand why La Mesa would register in AZ knowing you live in Louisiana? We enjoy all your videos!

[@jamesigorreilly979]

Awesome place , was a kid and lived on Camp Penalton , USMC station for three years ! Half mile from the ocean , lol , it’s where I learned how to skip classes and - oops school (on bad days ) beautiful place !!

[@karendavis3286]

I’m watching. I live in Alexandria also. My Honda is registered in Texas. They want $1500 in taxes to change over to Louisiana. I feel your pain.

[@karendavis3286]

Now that I’ve finished watching there is a problem if DMV are not giving consistent information across the board. Alexandria dmv needs to be reported

[@karengriswold4537]

Did you talk to the Attorney General's Office in either LA or AZ? They should have a consumer protection department.

[@twilahowland9680]

Oh my goodness... What a mess. Thanks for the lesson... On a positive note, our son just became a US Marine there at Camp Pendleton yesterday. #louisianagirlinamissouriworld

[@andreas4268]

Sorry to hear! Thank you for the buyer beware disclosure! I’m glad that while you shouldn’t have to pay, you did pay less than the original nightmare of 5K. Take care folks 😊

[@rob2may60]

I live in AZ and have been told by many RVers, never buy from La Mesa RV. If they were a reputable company they would have at least paid half the registration fee if not all.. They knew you were out of town people and the RV you traded in I assume was also registered in Louisiana. Best advise is NEVER TRUST A DEALER, NEVER!!!

[@mrmotofy]

I sort of ran into the same thing...not an RV. I found out the taxes are collected from that state. The $ is then transferred to your home state...but this was after 4mo of back and forth. That may be the way the dealership operates...but doesn't mean it's legal. Check with the vehicle state DMV and state consumer protection dept. They can get some serious uh stuff done or file charges etc on your behalf. The state business start answering and calling back quick when that dept gets involved.

[@shannonmurphy9790]

very good information. Thank you

[@ChocolateManInThailand]

Very very important lessons learned video. Awesome!

[@bornprissy329]

Thank you for the costly information. We, Texas is a great state to live in.

[@richardatkinson6031]

mmmm, just wondering if you could have plates bought in Texas so you would not have to pay additional taxes. Any way, I have a 2023 Thor sequence, which is very similar to your van except have battery generator . looking forward so mods you might do.

[@lifewithgrandmabev]

La Mesa should know better. They sell to snowbirds all the time. Thank goodness you went to another DMV and got some relief.

[@timglennon6814]

I’m glad we don’t have that problem here in the U.K. when we buy a vehicle in a different county.

[@StanStarkforloans]

Great heads up video, thank you !

[@debbieschilbe4091]

Sorry that you had to have this hassle plus paying sales tax again. Welcome back to California and San Diego County.

[@notanomad9320]

Timely video as I'm currently looking to upgrade my Roadtrek into something newer. Originally purchased from a dealer in Ohio back in 2014 and they did not charge me the state taxes as I was registering in MN where I paid the tax. Seemed to work out just fine but a good reminder to pay attention up front.

[@heatherlucero2530]

Wow!! Thank you for the information!! Very helpful!!! I’m thinking of trading my 5th wheel for your same van. TAXES are insane!!

[@salliestewart4713]

So sorry. Love your help and educating. My favorite thing watching you all is your variety ❤️

[@lynnmoquin2059]

We almost bought a new car over state lines about 100 miles from where we live. I will definitely be asking a lot of questions if we consider that in the future.

[@kimberlyspeight21]

Same thing happened to us on a Range Rover from AZ back to Texas! They just flat don’t know what to do! $3500 boo boo

[@agacic]

Also make sure if you buy used out of state that the title can be transferred to your state. We purchased our RV in Alabama and the title had the mileage exempt. Unfortunately Florida would not accept the title with mileage exempt. The seller helped us get Alabama to reissue the title without the exemption, but it took a couple of months.

[@annemarieleone6394]

That is illegal unless you had a domicile in AZ. Sounds like La Mesa is a scammer dealership. Bet it’s in their fine print. Did they register in AZ to the dealership?

[@ketolife4775]

I have heard that the best state to buy an RV is Montana, where they talk one into the LLC process and then register in Montana with NO sales tax.

[@LauraOnTheMove]

I can’t even imagine how frustrating that was! All unexpected expenses in van life are tough but $5k would be rough!!

[@seekingadventures]

You can’t double tax. You need to talk to the Louisiana Department of Revenue. I was going to buy a trailer from Wisconsin that charges their state tax and license it in Wyoming. I called my county in Wy and asked about the tax and they said I would have to pay it again in Wy. So I called three other counties in Wy and they said I wouldn’t have to pay. So I called the Department of Revenue in Wy and the Director said if my county tries to charge tax to immediately call her and she would straighten my county out. I ended buying from another dealer in a different state.

[@travelingon7458]

We bought an RV in Alabama over the border of Florida where we live. Our dealer did not charge us sales tax until we took it to Florida DMV to do the title work. So sorry this happened to you.

[@davelauraphillips8814]

IMHO - someone at the dealership organization knows about this and you probably NOT the first to get screwed. That is really bad customer service and IMHO it appears deliberate. Did you consider filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau or maybe small claims court?

[@lifeinmyemptynest]

That's terrible! I bought my motorhome in Montana, but we live in Oregon. I had no issues except for the out of state purchase fee that I had to pay Oregon. What?? Both Oregon and Montana have not sales tax. but sneaky Oregon got me with the stupid fee. 😭

[@blessednettie69]

Wow...Thanks for the heads up.

[@Libra95932]

As soon as you said "you bought in Arizona" I was like "oh you are going to get screwed" Cause Arizona does not title "out of state".

[@boatlover1875]

That's crazy. I moved several times in my career and when I registered my car in a new state, they generally did not make me pay taxes if I could show I paid them in another state for that car when I bought it. I think once I may have paid the difference from a state that had a lower rate at purchase.

[@ricktaylor6373]

Sad you had to spend but Thankyou with sharing and reminding all of us! 👍👍

[@devstar4991]

You all should do a video on the pros and cons of the Gemini vs Winnebago. It would be interesting to hear how they compare and what you preferred about each one.

[@robertcowan8620]

we were at the Albuquerque balloon festival and almost traded in our 2019 Thor Gemini for another RV. La Mesa was the dealer at the show. We will be checking that issue if we decide to trade for another RV.

[@EECCTravels]

The dealership was fine in the sales side. Ut were no help with this issue. Definitely ask if they will title it in that state.

[@sandifarrington9066]

As a Military family, we had this problem. Florida was our home of record. In Florida if your vehicle was a yr old you didn’t have to pay taxes again. So if the dealership wouldn’t pay the Florida tax, we could wait a yr and then do the registration then. So you maybe could have used the Az registration for a yr and then do a Louisiana registration

[@valeriebelmonte9556]

That’s terrible I feel terrible for you guys. I’m glad it worked out in the end.

[@CC-TimesTwo]

Bummer! One less cruise this year.

[@sswan9689]

What an expensive lesson to learn!! Sorry you had to go through all that mess. Caveat Emptor (Let the Buyer Beware). I remember this saying in a high school business class

[@claywood2169]

Sorry to hear that you two had to deal with that headache.

[@glennstephens5486]

This could be a possible illegal collection of sales tax.. Hit up the AZ attorney General

[@evelynmckenzie5269]

This sounds like a case for "Help me Howard". This is definitely double dipping by these states.

[@RanaesCrochet]

Wow!! I’m so sorry that happened to you guys!!! BUT… thank you so much for the info! My hubby and I are looking for or first arc/van to start traveling in.

[@cindymcguine5688]

Not only you guys but all the Nomads who go to Quartzite and Lake Havasu for the winter who buy RVs in AZ that live elsewhere wow!

[@sopad4629]

That means we are not purchasing an RV in Arizona because they only know to register vehicle in their state. They need to learn how to register for other states too and if it’s an issue just inform customer straight up so there’s less problem for the customer.

[@benchmarkroofingmb]

We had a similar experience, but an amazing employee at our local DMV went above and beyond, which is often unheard of at the DMV... hahaha... but she reached out via email to the DMV in the county where the initial taxes were paid to incorrectly by the dealership and petitioned that the taxes be transferred to the correct county where we live. Don't know if reaching out to the DMV in Arizona is an option or worth the time to you, but... 🤷‍♀️ Maybe you'll have the luck I did finding a DMV employee that goes above and beyond to help you out!?!?! 😃

[@catherinerichard6994]

No sales tax in the state of New Hampshire

[@ResistTrump]

Wow, so sorry to hear about the registration problems. Tell me, do you like the Trovato better than the Gemini?

[@lloydcrochet1444]

We live in Harahan, LA, it was great viewing your video

[@willg7882]

Sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing.

[@merman921]

Thank you for all the great info😊

[@letiacarlson7242]

U need to go to Dollywood and see the Christmas lights