EFAP Movies #53: Saw X

[@nobody2996]

I like how they've gone from being 'Meh' on Hoffman to "Where the fuck is the Hoffers?!"

[@comeatmebro8120]

After the atrocities that were Saw 8 and 9, I can’t blame them for begging to see a familiar face, especially one that brought a lot of entertainment value to the Saw franchise

[@TheSlammurai]

I think his Metal Gear Solid moment sold them on him. When he became full on terminator they started to love him.

[@PanzerblitzRnR]

His unhinged moments were great

[@mala6238]

Hoff is best

[@nobody2996]

@@mala6238 And the rumor mill is saying we'll be getting much more of him.

[@rogerpuzzitiello]

Spoilers: Director: “Alright Tobin, so in this scene we’re essentially going to be put you in a trap that will waterboard you and this small child with blood. You good to go?” Tobin: “Let’s do it.” Tobin Bell is such a class act. Whether it be the makeup he wore in the first movie that made the crew not want to eat with him, to having his character get killed off in the third movie, and the later movies regretting that decision and just desperately shoving him in the rest of the series as much as possible, to even Dripsaw in Saw 3D. The man is 81 years old, and no matter how ridiculous these movies get, he still keeps coming back and giving it his all. Gotta respect that.

[@mrminecraftcubeable]

Really annoyed at spiral for not including him

[@rogerpuzzitiello]

@@mrminecraftcubeable I almost don’t even want to acknowledge that movies existence, so much of it feels disrespectful, which is weird considering it was a passion project for Chris Rock.

[@ghostprojekt]

Tobin Bell is the soul of the series.

[@Markm8]

I feel like this is his hobby at this point if life, witch is funny because the saw games are practically jugsaws hobby too

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

@@rogerpuzzitiello I was annoyed at Chris Rock, because he both said he was a huge fan _and_ talked up that movie like it was groundbreaking because it featured _a black policeman as the lead._ Who is Detective Rigg, then? Or even Detective Tapp? At least Saws I - IV had that easy, early 2000s, we-genuinely-do-not-care-what-race-you-are casting going on. The contrast between that and the "hands up; don't shoot" mess that was _Spiral_ is stark.

[@Jaygar9392]

“I want Hoffman” “We have Hoffman at home” *shows Amanda*

[@Dagenspear]

Amanda is more of a character.

[@Schlorb-Lord-of-Schlirb]

​@Dagenspear And yet she can't even come close to the Hoffinator

[@nont18411]

@@Dagenspear But did she stab the cops under the jaw like Hoffman did?

[@Hostilehippie13]

When you order Hoffman from Wish

[@kawaiiamethist]

Hoffers went on a slashing spree.

[@Bilbosilius_Zwackelbaggins]

I was hoping Wolf knew how important YMS' shitty flute is for this series and cut it in here and there. What we got at the end was more than I could ever hope for. Truly beautiful. My ears will bleed for days.

[@wwyd4akb]

BWARM!

[@tylercoon1791]

A very *BWOM* moment

[@kreese-yi2nb]

"Hello all my N-words, I want to play a game... with your eardrums."

[@marinescu0511]

He gave us exactly the finale that YMS couldn’t give us. Little sad cause I kinda wanted to hear his ‘rendition’ But fuck me having Wolf do it was an unexpected upgrade

[@th3lonef0x4]

What song is it?

[@GigaChadh976]

“You didn’t say bless you after your friend sneezed. In 2 minutes your urethra will fill with fire ants.”

[@mrshmuga9]

I got a good laugh from this, haha.

[@demod2080]

"You have to say you're sorry a thousand times in 3 minutes before the ants get into your penis. Live or die. The choice is yours."

[@JasonX909]

"You left the cap off the toothpaste. You now have one minute to brush your teeth with this sulfuric acid."

[@gamermoment0325]

Hoffman showing up and uttering “epic bad luck” is the peak of the series.

[@Sir-Raph]

That Wolf outro is "mouah" Chef's Kiss. Well done. We miss you Wolf.

[@Kwistoweeish]

Hearing Wolf’s voice and seeing these expressions of his personality has me grinning like an absolute buffoon! I’m so glad he keeps popping up here and there in various EFAP related things. Absolute mad lad! ♥️

[@Truejustice420]

Same man miss that guy alot

[@lazerstan]

@@Truejustice420 so is he coming back?

[@turdfurgesonph.d420]

@@lazerstan He’s just editing for MauLer at the moment.

[@bZman]

The sheer amount of love they have for the Hoff-Man in this series is so good

[@nont18411]

Mauler: “You see? Jigsaw won’t allow a child to experience that.” Donnie Wahlberg’s son in Saw 2 who experienced extremely traumatic moments and almost died of Sarin gas: “jIgSAw wOn’T aLLoW a ChIlD tO eXperIenCE tHAt.”

[@HectorLopez0217]

Also the kid at the end of Saw 3 I think whose stuck in a room

[@EveryFrameAPause]

Listen okay... that was a long time ago... ... or... ... is that the future lmao?

[@justadude3789]

Well one was an older teenager while the other was what? 11?

[@benjamingrant5970]

Well clearly, the little Mexican kid used his prize money at the end to go off and create a new drug cartel, and this betrayal soured Jiggy on children. Him and Hoff-Man will probably head back south in the next one to exact "justice" on him and his gang....

[@Jasper_Silva]

That child had evil Wahlberg genes.

[@thaearthquake]

What a ride this was. Most enjoyable series I’ve seen on this channel. Shame Adam and his flute weren’t around for this one.

[@benjamingrant5970]

Kinda funny they replaced him with Drinker too...That _can't_ have been an accident 😂

[@parsa1372]

At least we got wolf with kazoo...a legendary artist

[@ithewho6603]

I hoped he had come in, but I enjoy drinking man too so not too sad lol.

[@adrenjones9301]

@@benjamingrant5970 Probably because YMS needs like 2 years to form an opinion.

[@kingragnarok7302]

He needed to go back to his media diet, YMS was getting a bit media fat.

[@elvastan]

Good News: This movie made $57 million in profit so we are 100% getting more Joffman/Jigsaw Saw moives

[@elvastan]

I realized I mistyped Hoffman as Joffman and I'm not changing it.

[@karl5599]

​@elvastan change it to higsaw

[@hope-cat4894]

​@elvastan I thought you were going for a ship name Hoffman x Jigsaw. 😂

[@kennystephens7098]

JigHoff. HoffSaw.

[@DanialTarki]

@@kennystephens7098JackHoff

[@kvltovpersonality6290]

I think that Saw X should've absolutely pulled a MGSV and just said "Yeah, you thought that was Jigsaw that died in Saw III... but it was really JOHN Saw"

[@wolfdemexico]

JogSaw

[@FriendlyDarkwraith]

They're saving that one for Saw 13, which will be co-written and directed by Hideo Kojima.

[@knight-radiant4565]

None can deny the glory of Wolf on a kazoo. Love that he took the time to figure out that nearly half of these movies are flashbacks.

[@mrshmuga9]

It’s weird how nearly half of the _first movie_ is flashbacks. You’d think it would have the least except for some plot twists, lol.

[@thegrimcritic5494]

I like how everyone’s major criticism with the movie is that most of the characters die because of the arbitrary time limit placed upon them, when usually our criticisms are about the worthiness of the contestants being tested in the first place. Here in Saw X, they’ve finally managed to gather a cast of characters that the audience can agree deserve to be tested, but once they are tested and once they pretty much follow through with said tests, the only reason they die isn’t because they were unwilling to play, but simply because they ran out of time. I really did love this movie, but the fact that this was the reason most of the players lost made it feel like the film took two steps forward and one step back. Still one of the better Saw movies for sure though.

[@ProfessorHeavy1]

It reminds you that the main MO of Kramer himself is to test the human instinct for survival. So seeing people manage to mostly succeed some of these, even though you don't want them to, really lines up with what you know about ol' Jiggy, and that's been somewhat missing from prior films with copycats and impossible traps.

[@thegrimcritic5494]

Oh for sure, and I liked watching it a lot, but I mean, he was RIGHT THERE. He could SEE that they were displaying the survival instinct IN-PERSON, and yet he let them lose to a technicality? I was almost expecting him to intervene and stop the clock for some of them because he could SEE that they were doing what he asked of them, but nope. If he did that, my opinion of the film would have gone up SUBSTANTIALLY.@@ProfessorHeavy1

[@ProfessorHeavy1]

@@thegrimcritic5494 The time limit made sense on earlier traps such as the Reverse Bear Trap, but here it's absolutely dialled too far. It's absolutely a flaw with some parts of this movie, which is sad because it isn't plagued with the flaws of some movies that came before it.

[@ethanflores6252]

@@thegrimcritic5494yeah if someone is not only willing but somehow able to cut out a piece of the fucking brain without killing themselves accidentally they deserve to live

[@nicholaskinkaid]

@@ethanflores6252 What if he actually *was* given extra time (even hours worth) but was losing the ability to comprehend it? On a different note: I think that test should have been conducted with thresholds and not just a singular end goal and flat time limit. An example is that he's still given the same amount of time and amount needed to sacrifice BUT every 10% he's able to complete, he's given an extra 15 seconds.

[@Glippyy]

Fringy’s excitement upon seeing hoffman after wanting him to show up for the whole movie is one of my favourite things about this Efap movie.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Going from Spiral into this is quite the fucking contrast

[@Theendman42]

You've spent your October watching all that Saw has to offer, now you must experience the peak of Saw to complete the healing process and gain back your appreciation for movies. The key to your release is in this movie. Let the game begin.

[@SirEebRhawl]

Holy shit. Drinker replacing YMS. There's a ton of subtext here...

[@TheKnoxvicious]

YMS: It’s either me or him!!! Lmao

[@tenebreh7363]

Imagine if John Kramer wanted to play a game with Thrawn. You'd see Thrawn coolly cut off his own leg or something, smugly chuckling to himself as he gloats, "I didn't need that arm & leg, you didn't count on my having spares. Their losses were acceptable for this victory under the terms of the game."

[@eugenekrabs6400]

He cuts out part of his brain and it actually makes him smarter.

[@sijul6483]

​@@eugenekrabs6400perhaps the Thrawn wannabe.

[@SuperMegaGaelourde]

The Detectives: "Oh my god... It's Thrawn." "Oh God it is Thrawn, we're in danger." "The entire galaxy could end at any moment as long as he exists within it." Thrawn- (Limbless, smiling smugly on the floor) John- "Am I a fucking joke to you people?"

[@Hyperion_Driver]

He cuts the wrong leg, like in scary movie lol

[@dodojesus4529]

​@@Hyperion_Driver"all according to cake"

[@elater272]

I love how many people ( myself included) like Hoffman despite the quality of his actual storyline

[@Dagenspear]

Shows a lack of care for quality for these guys I think.

[@aidanmattys7488]

​@Dagenspear I think they realized it all sucks early so are just grasping to personal enjoyment. They mention the shit when it comes up, but they enjoy the silliness

[@harrydubois6619]

Despite being a serial killer psycho, he’s proven many times that he has the will to live more than any other character

[@mattsouthern6088]

​@harrydubois6619 he's literally a terminator

[@kreese-yi2nb]

I hate the mofo more than anything in this series... which makes him an integral part of it.

[@alexaka1]

36:00 Fun fact, the brain has no nerve endings, so he shouldn't have felt any pain irl when he grabbed and tore out a chunk. The flashes and wild visions are probably realistic, but the pain is absolutely not. The brain doesn't need to tell itself it is in pain, it never needed that function.

[@darkraiking680]

Ya know… I never even considered that. Mainly due to occasional migraines I would have. But I guess yeah, pain sensing neurons would probably not be found in the brain.

[@TheWunWhiteWolf]

I honestly think John didn’t want Cecilia to live given that stare he gave her, but he has to play by the rules so he just walks away. The one who ends up winning isn’t always the most deserving.

[@robertst.pierre1341]

Well considering how the gas burns skin who's to say shes not dead anyway

[@harrydubois6619]

@@robertst.pierre1341 They show the gas turning off as John and the others are leaving

[@thegrimcritic5494]

And I think that on top of that, her entire scam apparatus has been thoroughly dismantled. From what I could tell, the papers that John put in the money bag that Cecilia took at the end showed that he liquidated all her funds. So she's basically been cast back even FURTHER behind Square One. And she can't exactly go to the authorities to track him down because, well, then they'd have to look into HER background; which would screw HER over too. John basically put her into a situation where all she can do is observe as her entire scamming empire is dismantled before her very eyes.

[@juliuswatcher1157]

She is trapped in that room with her head stuck. Assuming she eventually escapes (with help) there are evidence of her scam to put her in jail.

[@samzilla567]

I feel like taking the money she swindled and giving it away to a kid while she's forced to just sit there and rot is a bigger middle finger to her than just outright killing her.

[@andrewwhite1097]

Can we appreciate Wolf for the incredible editing!?!?!? He killed it!!!!

[@arturzinurov4781]

As someone who wanted a battle of Hoffman and Dr Gordon I honestly don’t even mind this movie was great.

[@taags]

Hoffman will be back in the future.

[@harrydubois6619]

@@taags “Hoffman will return in the Sawvengers”

[@arturzinurov4781]

@NimbusTM do you seriously believe saying “that would be dumb” in a saw franchise means anything?

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

Jigsaw disciple battle hell yeah!

[@trajanthegreat2928]

Rival Saw gangs kidnapping each other and putting each other in traps to prove they are the true Saw.

[@SirEebRhawl]

Best EFAP Movies of all time... Wolf's contribution at the end warms my heart.

[@SolutusEversol]

Oh No! The real plot twist of this EFAP series is that Wolf was the Jigsaw this whole time!!! Cue the Kazoo Saw Theme!

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

I’m so happy Wolf is having fun with these. We miss you, you ol Pizza Hound you. ^.-.^ 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🐺

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

Wolf going wild on the kazoo was the perfect bookend for this Halloween series. Pizzas out for wolf! 🍕🍕🍕🐺🐺🐺

[@sophiecooper1824]

Tobin Bell was actually water boarded, there is behind the scenes footage of that

[@deliverymanq7333]

miss you wolf. thanks for editing this crazy series. between your editing and the panels commentary its proven that you can really polish a turd

[@realmofloredor]

*”It’s not about the Nazis we lost, but the Saws we met along the way”* - Jig Sanchez

[@tylercoon1791]

*”It’s not about trapping who we hate, but jigging what we saw!”* -Jigs Sawco

[@Zeddyboi86]

When the 10th movie is considered one of the best, you know you’re in for one of the franchises of all time. 🤣

[@Jasper_Silva]

And this best movie comes right after two of the worst lol

[@CaptanF0rever]

I mean.... Jason X was awesome.... who knew we needed a slasher horror in a sci-fi setting.

[@kreese-yi2nb]

Written by the same two guys, no less.

[@jonsimpson6240]

That sounds like, without the context, an awesome franchise. Tenth movie is considered one of the best? That's amazing, how could they keep the quality up after that many movies?

[@kreese-yi2nb]

@@jonsimpson6240 It's complicated. It is possible that many fans appreciate Saw X more than it deserves because 8 and 9 were much worse than 6 and 7 that preceded them. X is coming back to the roots of sorts and gives people what they wanted for years - more Tobin Bell.

[@NightmaresinParadise]

i’m almost ashamed of how hyped the post credits scene made me 🗿

[@Krueger4Eva-zt5jb]

This IS one of the better and more interesting sequels to Saw!! Thank you everyone who created this epic saga for EFAP Halloween! Thank you for taking the time to review every single one of these and managing to not lose your sanity! Have a Happy Halloween!

[@jamescarr1265]

i think this might be my favourite Saw sequel! it returned to the simplicity i liked about the original. have a happy Halloween!

[@Nick46289]

So. We live in a timeline where the latest movie with the _Saw_ trademark is a solid 5\10, maybe even 6/10. While the latest series with the _Lord of the Rings_ trademark is 2\10, if we're being extremely generous. ... can someone explain to me how we got to this point?

[@megaultradamn]

Intersectional activists turning entertainment topsy turvy to influence future generations.

[@Arphemius]

2/10? The hate hype around that show really is insane.

[@liamjm9278]

@@Arphemius No, it's justified.

[@marinescu0511]

I love how everyone is so fucking ready when the theme kicks in at 45:14 Then when the door closes at 45:40 Fringy is at full hype laughing like a maniac. And I was absolutely vibing with them. Such a great moment in efap movies!

[@_Dovar_]

"My name is Saw. Jig Saw."

[@TheRealJabbergeist]

Not even halfway through but I am seriously digging the editing in this one. I like seeing the avatars move around and hold things and goofs baked into the footage itself rather than cutaways to clips from other shows.

[@davidmendez3899]

EYE like how the eye trap is clearly just thrown in the first thirty minutes to keep the Saw fans placated. keeping their sticky fingers from leaving the theater.

[@kazuya246]

I love that Jigsaw is now just John Wick with torture traps.

[@FriendlyDarkwraith]

Which is arguably what it always should have been. It would have the same appeal as Dexter.

[@vitorschein8073]

It's so great to hear Wolf's voice again, especially with such an amazing musical cover

[@Shafticus]

Happy to see the gang got back together and finish this saga If they didn’t it would be distasteful…to me

[@denkerbosu3551]

I like how YMS actually missed this one. It's just funny how you say "the gang" in the one he's gone.

[@SuperMegaGaelourde]

​@@denkerbosu3551Well idk if YMS is part of the gang as much as he's a semi-regular guest, but he's missed. I hope it's not behind the scenes drama, but with how they introduced Drinker as replacing yms for reasons, it seems like that's it. I hope the audience forgets it and they patch things up

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

And everybody else. Wolf cameo was great

[@drunkencowboyagni]

​@@SuperMegaGaelourdeI dunno man the drama left a bad taste in my mouth. YMS didn't exactly leave me with the best impression of him after all of it was said and done. Hope he does well reguardless, and it was fun having him on these.

[@HappyFir3]

This editing made it a non-stop laugh. Truly incredible wolf, you madlad.

[@TheExcuseme2121]

Great job on these edits, Wolf! The ending is great

[@wolfdemexico]

Please give us the Hoffanator again. We need him.

[@ppmv4285]

46:29 I actually like how Rags pointed out the obvious weight difference between a loaded gun and an unloaded one and how they wouldn't have checked to see if it was loaded, only for the movie to show they thought of that. Genuinely appreciate them thinking of these things.

[@FriendlyDarkwraith]

"The fact that they accomplish the task, and then the reason why they die is because they have to sit there and wait for some other process to happen that they can't control, it's like, well, they're screwed already." Yeah. Sounds a lot like terminal cancer, doesn't it? Be a shame if someone gave them false hope or something.

[@tentacledood5784]

OOOOOHH!! Okay with that in mind makes it a lot less crappy... Just wish the movie made that clearer.

[@RedStar_N7]

That's a great point. John couldn't exactly cheat them out of survival, because then the subsequent players simply wouldn't have played. The hope of survival is a crucial part of his philosophy. And he even highlighted the part about hope in his little speech Lets also not forget that two people managed to escape in time, so they aren't impossible if you just man up and follow the rules

[@r.k845]

That’s not Jiggys way tho

[@jefferykirschner8816]

LOL that’s brilliant

[@TOGYS7]

Killing a child isn't going too far with Jiggy (he endangered a couple in 1 and 3, afterall) he just didn't want this one hurt because he considered him a friend.

[@defeqel6537]

and 2

[@Jasper_Silva]

He straight up endangered two children in 2 and 3 for the crime of having stupid parents.

[@Dagenspear]

@@Jasper_Silva Amanda was protecting Daniel in 2, that was also a teen, and it's debatable how much the girl in 3 was really in danger.

[@harrydubois6619]

@@Dagenspear If Hoffman hadn’t been feeling generous, the girl would’ve died of thirst in that room

[@comeatmebro8120]

“Killing children is distasteful…to me…sometimes”

[@EpicJasonX9000]

It took 9 sequels, but, we finally got an actual factual good film.

[@Coaltergeist]

Awww did YMS not want to show up because of the stupid drama with Drinker? I know the last 9 were recorded a while ago so it might have just been scheduling but something tells me that's not what it is. Hopefully not I like both of them

[@eggpling]

It is safe to call Jigsaw the protagonist. That word does not mean much about the morality of the character--they just typically are the moral actor. Protagonists are just the main character! The antagonist is also similar, where it is just the actor working against the protagonist. For example: in a Darth Vader-led show, Vader would be the protagonist and the rebels/Luke/Obi-Wan would be the antagonist.

[@Jasper_Silva]

True, though I love the term "Anti-villain" they came up with lol

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

He’s a villain protagonist like Kratos in GOW III

[@Arphemius]

@@Jasper_Silva They did not come up with that.

[@ghostprojekt]

Can't wait for "Hoffman: A Saw Story" Jokes aside, gimme a Hoffman movie!

[@Dagenspear]

What does Hoffman add as a character?

[@mala6238]

Hell yeah!

[@gamermoment0325]

@@Dagenspearepicness

[@RestrictedAudiencesOnly]

I love that EFAP is as Team Hoffman as I am. Saw V is fuckin lyfe. Hoffman Lives

[@pipusmaximus189]

This was the JIGGIEST of all Saws. On a serious note this was a great EFAP movies arc, a really nice addition to this Halloween season, hopefully the massives can top it next Halloween.

[@mrshmuga9]

This is a rare sight where a franchise THIS convoluted, with so many middling entries, takes another stab after basically giving up and going schlocky, actually takes it seriously, and delivers. They easily could’ve done some alternate timeline or space or jump the shark in some other way, but they put in the effort. Nice.

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

I like how YMS has been replaced by Critical Drinker.

[@329link]

Beautiful irony

[@lostcause78]

They were both invited, YMS pussed out.

[@themeangene]

YMS is throwing a temper tantrum because Mauler's friends won't just ignore the woke insanity in modern media. It's glorious.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

It’s a shame YMS didn’t give Drinkly a chance. Inevitability all the drama would have just blown over and he could’ve continued on Bein a regular on EFAP Movies. Oh well. ^.-.^

[@lostcause78]

I agree. CD doesn't seem to hold grudges.@@Beuwen_The_Dragon

[@Marineson36]

Peak EFAP Movies, among the best of the best. Really happy to hear Wolf at the end, on what sounded like a kazoo, truly heart warming hearing him again. Much love y'all

[@Chris-th5fl]

It was a good choice to not follow through with jigsaw and spiral and mainly focus on john himself. This movie feels what saw should have been after the first movie. Putting people in traps that we know deserve to be in it and watch how if they have the will to live and change there ways. I also like they used amanda well in this film since i felt they did not do as much with her as they did with hoffman for the franchise. If saw 11 comes i think we will get more hoffman and hopefully Dr gordon as well.

[@Glorkish]

Aaaand Wolf playing the cazoo at the end, great to hear!

[@TheWunWhiteWolf]

Honestly the new best Saw film. Some small things I liked: Spoilers ahead! “Hello Zepp” is used in a triumphant “you two fucked up” moment rather than a mind bending twist reveal. What Cecilia did explains a bit why Amanda made her traps inescapable later on. Cecilia subtly sabotaging the others like telling Valentina the incorrect way to use the saw. 80+ year old Tobin actually being waterboarded for the scene is commendable. And of course…Hoffman!

[@Jasper_Silva]

ngl the Amanda character detail might have been the first piece of flashback that actually made a previous movie better in this series.

[@BillyTheKidLawrence]

The cheers for Hoffman and wanting more of him warms the heart

[@Spartan_1_17]

This EFAP series has been a bloody great ride. Never stop you MASSIVES. Wolf's outro at the end was the cherry on top.

[@xel1673]

"I have a few hobbies." Excellent cutaway, Wolf. XD

[@nadilenebudski]

Do you know the name of the song during that "hobbies" montage?

[@xel1673]

@@nadilenebudski Song is best known as the "Can Can". It's a piece from the opera "Orpheus in the Underworld" by Offenbach

[@nadilenebudski]

@@xel1673 Much appreciated!!

[@Truejustice420]

Wolfs ending was the perfect way to wrap up the best Halloween efap movies yet legit has been something i look forward to throughout the week

[@samzilla567]

The fact that Critical Drinker is here and YMS is MIA makes it sadly clear the boys aren't gonna be hanging out in the same playground anymore. Shame.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

I mean if the only thing he brought to the table was bad flute, hatred for women, and his "curated media diet" there's not much to miss

[@B1G_WENGH]

@@Amarenamannlol dude, chill, it’s just EFAP and the critical drinker. You need to go touch grass.

[@lordkrauser]

​@@darkpuppetlordfulngl it was really weird how he kept harping on the actress for jill tuck for only being in the film because she was engaged to one of the producers. Same with how obsessed he was with the director being a big man baby.

[@hand8007]

@@lordkrauser I can go both ways with that information. Don't get me wrong YMS is distasful...................................................................to me. After his Drinker takes and how he defended them but I can see people swinging both ways on liking those details.

[@HerohammerStudios]

​@@darkpuppetlordful hatred for women??

[@davidmendez3899]

i’ll be honest, I thought the first cancer guy was being honest and assumed the scar was just them BSing the patients with butchery. still wanna know what that last contraption was supposed to do.

[@kreese-yi2nb]

I would assume it was to do him actual scar potential... and then some, Saw-style.

[@nobody2996]

The last contraption was meant for John and Amanda. Seems the plan was that, after learning the first cancer guy was the woman's wife from Hoffman, John assumed that the woman would take the first opportunity to grab a phone and call her husband, who'd come and break her free, and that she'd pointlessly waste her time killing Jiggy with a trap instead of just killing him.

[@nobody2996]

@@ZiggyIsNowhere Oh. That makes sense.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

I mean he lied that he was cured from pancreatic cancer, so I could see the trap being to not move so the Butcher device cuts his pancreas out. The back side was probably part of the "fail state" where if he moved it cut into his back

[@JoeTheUberGeek]

I have to admit, I didn't dislike this film. Compare it to the rest it's easily the best one.

[@lorecow88]

It falls a bit flat near the end, but yes, this is easily one of the best in the series.

[@harrydubois6619]

@@lorecow88 I still hate the fact that John and Amanda let Gabriela die, knowing that they weren’t in any danger of getting shot

[@lorecow88]

@harrydubois6619 I did say "one of the best in the series", not that it's great. The movie has plenty of issues when you get down to it, but it's an entertaining ride. Hopefully they can keep up the momentum and make something genuinely good next time, or at least competently written.

[@shawklan27]

​@lorecow88 yep that twist villain and the ending room trap twist ruined this film for me.

[@matt36866]

So happy for the Wolf love in live chat at the end. Good job lads and laddess for taking us through this journey with you. Wonder what franchise will be picked for next year to try and top this one. Thought they'd struggle to top last years Final Destination, but they did by a fair bit I'd say. Much love all

[@marinescu0511]

I really love the solo Wolf performance at the end.

[@nont18411]

When we remember Betsy Russell in Saw franchise, we remember her as "Jill Tuck" while in case of Chris Rock, it's just Chris Rock. The bar is so low but Chris Rock managed to go lower.

[@davidmendez3899]

“of all the KZbin channels to be bad in front of, you picked EFAP? I mean, I call that “EPIC BAD LUCK” - Sam Hydeman aka The Jiginator

[@aytony4090]

​@@davidmendez3899He cant keep getting away with it!

[@revolversnake126]

with all due respect but who the fuck knows who betsy russell is?

[@Astroman10]

Great to see you Wolf! Hope things are going well!

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Eventually, we're going to have so many apprentice reveals that it ultimately boils down to the fact that Kramer had nothing to do with any of the traps or plans at all, he only recorded the videos with his puppet.

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 Could do Saw Wars

[@Jasper_Silva]

Just wait until Saw 17 where it's revealed the puppet was actually made by Apprentice #25

[@miolovgren2301]

And that’s how he’s not a murderer

[@rodrigoluz2040]

"You know, I'm something of an Editor myself" - Wolfo Doggins

[@ImMichaelB]

Happy Halloween Everybody! ❤ I'd like to throw out a big ol' thank you to the EFAP crew for taking us on this tortuous, torture-filled trip. Of course much love to Wolf for these fantastic edits. We've missed ya! And so ends Spookmus 2023. With the ghastly ghouls and gore-starved ghosts lulled into a deep slumber by the Wonderous Wolf's serenade. The creatures of the night await their next frightful delight.

[@xel1673]

Random thought, but could you imagine if Jigsaw kidnapped a person who turned out to be a masochist? Jigsaw: This isn't working out how I thought it would...

[@giulizpaviz6381]

Jigsaw: "Hello *insert name*. You spend a lot of time watching BDSM porn imagining yourself in these situations. Now your dream has become reality!" The victim: "Wow, I discovered a new kink, thanks Jigsaw :D" Jigsaw: "...what?"

[@GigaChadh976]

@@giulizpaviz6381 Jigsaw: you’ve spent your life chasing odd and perverse sexual scenarios. I give you something different: In your anus is 30 pounds of C4. To your right is a woman who is mutually attracted to you. If you want to live, you must have missionary sex with this consenting adult. You must achieve full climax or you will die.

[@kingbash6466]

Cecilia got off alot lighter than she should have. Like she's probably the most insanely evil character we've gotten in this franchise, yet we barely see her suffer in a way most victims who have done way lesser heinous shit have.

[@rowdeemunkee]

Evidence of her scam is all over that warehouse. Life in a mexican prison with full body chemical burns is still pretty damn bad

[@giulizpaviz6381]

well unless she re-appear in the next movie where she fails a trap horribly

[@jelledesmet7086]

Ah but remember her words: 'it's a 2-pronged treatment.' John is not done with her.

[@mordirit8727]

Jigsaw: she's done her test, she's ready to live on. Amanda: I heard she smoked once. Jigsaw: ... ... ... Get the pig mask

[@Vesporeon]

Me when this movie is actually okay: "I call that... epic good luck."

[@CrustlessKing]

I don't know who this "Drinker" person is but it doesn't sound like he has a very healthy media diet if he hasn't watched all the Saw films numerous times like a true intellecutal.

[@B1G_WENGH]

I’m surprised Drinker didn’t call this movie out for being “woke” because the blonde female lives at the end.

[@jwc-lw3sp]

@@B1G_WENGHsure

[@GigaChadh976]

@@B1G_WENGHyeah it's almost as if you’ve made up a strawman in your head about who drinker is

[@TheKnoxvicious]

@@B1G_WENGH Dude, the last predator movie was woke as hell and he gave it a good review. I still don’t understand that

[@jcjgraham]

My "watching the other movies make me wanna be in this trap" line was 'cause it sucks eyeballs out!

[@Idiotocin]

I got it!

[@ShadowryuuPmP]

I cannot tell if Wolf was having a lot of fun editing or slowly going insane.

[@WhyNot-qw6vu]

lowkey sad that I won't hear Adam give his final rendition of the saw theme that shit had a better character arc than all of the sequel trilogy edit: well that ending was bittersweet wasn’t? Love you wolf hope you doing fine

[@cokemaster3710]

he was also the only one who 100% knew what was happening with the “plot” these movies were trying to convey. shame he’s not here for such a petty reason

[@jwc-lw3sp]

@@cokemaster3710what’s the reason??

[@Rounderyathecruel]

@@jwc-lw3spyms made a video criticizing the critical drinker, he then guested on efap, and pretty much all of his criticisms turned out to be bullshit, so I’m guessing he’s having a temper tantrum

[@RedStar_N7]

He doesn't like Drinker. He doesn't respect him or see him as an equal in the realm of film criticism. And lets be honest. If its between him and Drinker, its an easy choice for Mauler. The thumbnail doesn't surprise me one bit. Hopefully they're still on good terms with him personally, but I don't see him coming back on EFAP anytime soon. Its too awkward

[@Skulduggery_TV]

​@@jwc-lw3sp Long story short, he claimed that Drinker was a gateway channel to the Alt-right/viewers are primarily right-wing and his evidence was "a friend who is right wing that is subbed to Drinker" and one time where Drinker was a guest on Russel Brand's podcast (who YMS also doesn't like) so a bit of guilt by association thomg going on there too. On top of that he didn't do any research on Drinker's channel, he watched 3 recent videos - none of which were truly representative of Drinker's content - and basically went all snobby saying he's a true film critic and consumer because he attends as many film festivals as possible and watches indie movies while Drinker probably doesn't. Basically the anime elitist argument of "you're not a true fan unless you watched obscure anime number 25!" Then there was calling Drinker and Anti-Woke conspiracy channel (based on nothing more than video titles) as he criticises the Hollywood system and the message - as Drinker calls it - with no evidence. Despite Drinker showing receipts and evidence any time he makes a video criticising the Hollywood system.

[@altandemei2644]

I just love how everybody starting going "dah dah daah !" when the Saw theme started playing for the last trap on top of the excitement for Hoffman

[@TheOneAverageJoe]

love the wolf cameo at the end lmao

[@ultimatefattie9022]

Is Wolf doing some editing for Mauler?

[@heikira438]

​@@ultimatefattie9022Wolf edited all of the Saw reactions

[@benjamingrant5970]

An the gollum:lord of ring supercut. Probably a few other bits and pieces too.

[@NicTheGreek1979]

Holy shit that Kazoo was the best trap of them all.

[@joebro2670]

I like that jig actually confronts them in this, becuase they hurt him personally

[@FxCalibur]

He also did that in Saw 1 with Gordon, Saw 6 (through a recording) with the insurance guy, and Saw 8 (Jigsaw) with the guy that killed his nephew.

[@Dagenspear]

@@FxCalibur He does it to Eric and Lynn as well, thought not because they personally harmed him much.

[@powerfist1340]

It's really weird, it feels like they hired an actual writer. Not a particularly good writer, but at least someone who understands the concept

[@SumGuy099]

I know everyone else is saying it but, fucking lol to YMS ditching out to then be replaced by Drinker. Thats fucking hilarious

[@jcore0981]

Aw man no Adam. I guess that controversy really ended their working relationship. Shame since I was curious about his opinion on the film.

[@esotericVideos]

I think it was more the very hostile reaction of a subset of the EFAP audience which ruined it. If everyone could have been mature enough to say "look I disagree with Adum's perspective, but I still respect him as a person." The bad blood could have been avoided. Unfortunately, that kind of tolerance towards others with different perspectives is beyond some certain EFAP fans capabilities...

[@cokemaster3710]

@@Amarenamanni hear what youre saying, but adam brought more substance to the podcast than most guests and two of the hosts do (you know which ones)

[@cokemaster3710]

@@Amarenamann idk man i remember rag’s doing the same shit with Atla and he’s still on the podcast. clearly hadnt watched the show but was sniffing on his own farts pretending he had and that “its bad” without elaborating. efap fans didnt go apeshit on him tho, they just pretend to have forgot about what their fav doggo said and moved on. adam does the same shit and we’re still talking about it and how he’s “a bad guy”

[@cokemaster3710]

@@Amarenamann notice the use of the “some fans”. most fans ignored it or were actually braindead enough to try and agree with him cause “some” of the audience views the words of efap as law (ik that sounds cringe but its true). im just pointing out that rag’s was treated far more respectfully than yms was. the reaction from the efap fanbase wasnt filled with nearly as much vitriol with rag’s atla dogshit take, compared to yms weird fart sniffing film festival suggestion. the unequal treatment of both situations is night and day

[@cokemaster3710]

@@Amarenamann all that you just wrote about rag’s can be applied to yms. yms has controversial opinions. has a love hate relationship on the site cause some people find him extremely irritating others find his criticisms to be 100% right. the only reason almost all of the efap audience turned on yms was because he was punching up at drinker and drinker being a very popular guest here on the podcast has more viewers who will side with him than yms who showed up every blue moon. im just trying to say i think both sides are being extremely petty about this situation. both are handling it like children and its made me lose respect for both of the parties involved

[@joebro2670]

OMG WOLF CAMEO, wolf is the hoffers of efap

[@newmannewman6043]

Thank you wolf for that beautiful playing

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

Man, Wolf went hard on the edits in this one!

[@orcwordlaugh1360]

YMS replaced with Drinker. Hmm, suspicious. Did Adam pull out after the EFAP on his Drinker video? I'm guessing this video was recorded much more recently than the rest.

[@andymarc8632]

The earlier ones were recorded last year I'm guessing.

[@reval1989]

Well given this movie came out a month ago

[@RenegadeVile]

I'd hoped the Drinker drama was settled and done with so Adam could have been here for the last movie...

[@BR-dy1ie]

That ship has sailed unfortunately. You know how internet drama goes

[@RenegadeVile]

@@BR-dy1ie Laaame.

[@RAIDEN9001]

Damn i was hoping to hear yms improve his Saw theme recorder

[@duchessofdementia]

holy shit wolf you have outwolfed yourself. brilliant

[@ab-gail]

How has there not been a trap that’s a play on the magician cutting a girl in half trick?

[@revolversnake126]

i guess the closest thing would be the trap with the two dudes, the saw and the girl on top of it.

[@TheFriendlyIntrovert]

I have no idea how you lads got this out so soon, considering this movie didn't even become available in HD until like a week ago. They didn't even show footage of one when they released the trailer for his arc 4 weeks ago. Massive credit to Wolf in his Editing Dungeon of horrors. Massive thanks to all the cast for these 10 episodes overall. They've been super fun all throughout

[@TheArmyOfOne100]

I love how excited they get when the music starts playing at the end.

[@jorgehuertas3995]

This has to be the funniest EFAO Movies. I think the previous was wish upon? Man, the classics really stay strong.

[@professormallard4348]

Wolf, you outdid yourself with this, the editing is excellent and hilarious. Thank you all for your work and the joy it has brought this time of year. Happy Halloween everyone! Water your Jebs!