BYD's new second generation Blade battery will revolutionise EVs

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[@KashmirParadise786]

I would like to join the show but I live far away.

[@_-Lea_-]

There's an article on "The Korean Car Blog" saying there will be an LFP battery from Hyundai in 2025 with 300 Wh/kg. Do you think this can be true?

[@jimgraham6722]

As an Atto3 owner I can say the V1 blade battery is very very good. After two and a half years no sign of any deterioration. If it does start to flag I look forward to upgrading.

[@imadkhaliq2941]

I think the batteries do have a warranty. But don't know the validity of the warranty please check and do share. Thanks

[@chazsach6594]

Don't expect much trade in value.

[@jimgraham6722]

@@chazsach6594I usually keep vehicles ten years. If this one makes it to ten I will be very happy. Any more is a bonus. I have owned just about every major brand, Merc, VW, Citroen, BMC, Ford, GM, Toyota, Suzuki, Mitsubishi. This one is by a good margin the best I have owned.

[@disasterarea6084]

Agree, what are you on Sam that 200+ KW charging is "not good" - most people would be absolutely fine with what Teslas manage, i.e. well under 150 on average.

[@jimgraham6722]

@@imadkhaliq2941 7yrs 80%, on present trend will make it easily

[@isuruthiwanka2595]

Finally BYD came to Sri Lanka.. I am very happy to buy seal

[@LouDeVere]

I thank you Sam, for introducing me to the Atto 3 back in 2022 and I placed my order just after you. It arrived in August '22 and I reckon, it's the best decision I've ever made. We're so happy with our BYD. Our second vehicle may well be a BYD too, maybe an Xpeng G6 or the new Tesla MY.

[@DIYMick]

No matter how long you wait, as soon as you buy it, a new one is just around the corner. Just because you bought the current LFP battery, doesn’t mean it stops working once a new version is released. Or think of it this way. Be happy with your current battery tech, and by the time you’re ready for a new EV, there will be even better technology out there

[@enighostmaster]

Every ICE enthusiast goes through the same buyer's remorse when next year's car is announced with 30 more hp.

[@spacexo1986]

I am gonna wait for the new blade battery .

[@DIYMick]

@ if you’re in no rush. Then great. Why not

[@southkoreausasmaster8805]

So you are Apple lovers

[@DIYMick]

@@southkoreausasmaster8805 wtf? lol

[@francoisguyot9770]

What's insane is how fast their development is. The longer you wait, the closer they're getting to charge at gas refilling speed.

[@ryancondie283]

Currently have an MG4 with the CATL 51 kWh battery, really want to get a BYD Seal with the Blade Battery 2.0 for our second car!

[@richpalmisano1740]

That's quite an improvement. Less battery, same range. That BYD Seagull will go further with less weight.

[@TB-up4xi]

The figures quoted are for the cell level density, when you translate that to a total pack weight a 64kwh v2 blade pack would weigh 90-95kg less than a V1 - not bad applied to a 1900kg car but won't turn it into a featherweight.

[@kampsu79]

I bought Byd Seal last summer and i don't feel disappointed at all. It's a fantastic car with range that suits me very well.There's always new tech coming around the corner if u wait you'll be waiting forever. In real world a few people can actually afford a new car so it takes time to these technologies to saturate the market. So maybe in 2-4 years i'll change my car to new Byd with newest technology that is available.Let's see how this version of Blade battery holds up in Finnish winter.

[@DaxVJacobson]

Fear of missing out (FOMO) on one battery tech generation is a reasons that battery swapping might be a good idea. package up the entire generation and over 5-7 years of batteries you could get 3 generations the way things are going today. They could then sell GEN 1 for energy storage while you drive around on GEN 3, when new battery tech comes out slap it into a standardized package and swap it onto the vehicle, if a problem shows up revert back to the previous generation while they sort out the new stuff.

[@vgbyte1648]

This is what i'm hoping mg would enable on mg4 and newer cars. Ie i put in a nice new solid state or lmfp battery instead of my regular lfp battery and get a range upgrade. Also bms upgrade to increase charging speed of the new battery

[@MrChiangching]

You forgot to put "INSANE" and GAME-CHANGER in the title! 😂

[@ffbrum]

LOL

[@albatross9995]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@robertcampbell6521]

I'm sure the Muppet will include that in his next fairytale

[@TricoliciSerghei]

I watch all the Game-Changer videos ))

[@stizzygrayson5541]

And holding head in hands

[@christopherj2231]

This is good news.

[@peterengland6153]

I don't need or looking for 10 min charging. All I need is 7kwh free charging at night. What tech I would like is V2H and V2G. I have used my V2L during power cuts. What would be useful is plug car in, charge for nothing at night, and power house during peak hours re V2H automatically.

[@aussie405]

I am very happy granny charging my dolphin from 3am with yesterday's leftover sunshine. 😊

[@PropanePete]

Charging at home by solar is obviously the way to go, but I don’t see how home solar charging is seen as being “free”. Here in Australia a suitable solar installation to reduce your use of grid power and charge your EV is about $13,000 AUD ($10K USD). That’s a lot of petrol money and several years driving if an ICE owner was considering switching to an EV.

[@sargfowler9603]

So true. How many 500kw chargers do you see around? Better to have more capacity and warranty tbh

[@kaasmeester5903]

Did almost all of the charging of my last EV at home, but it would have been nice to have 10 min charging for longer trips (holidays). Some EV makers, especially for smaller EVs, assume you'll never do long road trips, and put in an anemic charger. I hope that automakers will start offering superfast charging as an option: leave it out when you don't need it, pay for it if you want it.

[@vgbyte1648]

​@@PropanePeteHow much kW of power generation do you get at that price?

[@rossmyers8448]

The evolution we need to see with batteries is lower replacement costs or easier to fix partially faulty batteries. My P100D is 7 years old, at some point the battery is going to become an issue through degradation or total failure. The replacement cost I know is horrific (over $25K AUD I've heard), if these 'blade' batteries could allow faulty cells to be changed out for maybe $1,000 then used car buyers won't be so afraid of EV's. Super fast charging is nice and all but for most EV owners they soon realise that isn't the deal breaker, I've had mine since 2018 and I've visited a Supercharger 4 times.

[@happymelon7129]

agree

[@zizimai7568]

With so much development within 2 years of EVs on the market, I think Nio's concept will benefit all EVs. You buy a Nio with the old battery tech 2 yrs ago & when newer better batteries come into market, you get to swap to high density ones & get better range. That way early adopter don't feel pissed buying the EV early.

[@nguyep4]

You are assuming the design can be made compatible. Newer battery enables better design to the car themselves. Making compatibility a challenge.

[@twostate7822]

Or you get to swap into a battery that's 5+ years old and on its last legs.

[@TricoliciSerghei]

Thanks for the heads up Sam! Have a great day everyone who's reading ;)

[@SunshineShane]

Highly interesting content. Tech is evolving. Thanks for always bringing the news:)

[@Ausijoeblow]

You are doing a great job Sam

[@BMWHP2]

Thanks Sam. Good info on the new battery tech. On cars, it is sad teo see that so many EV builders still think there are not enough sedans. Same old Same.

[@thearlongpark]

Battery technology is still improving rapidly by the time you get a version 2 blade battery, the version 3 or solid-state battery will be around the corner. So better get the car whenever you are ready to purchase one.

[@grahamoldfield3871]

The real interesting thing is home charging from solar and home battery . Home storage battery will soon be so much cheaper you may have a storage battery around 50-70 Kw for about $10,000 . As car EV batteries are much cheaper and reputedly cost around $3500 for a battery pack for a Model 3 WITHOUT Government subsidies .If you Combine this with say a 18-25 Kw solar system you could have the ability to charge you EV quickly after work at home . As most EV are charged ( or actually topped up ) at home once or twice a week . Very very few EV are driven more than 300Klm a day ,most are driven around 400 Klm a week ( ie one charge ) . As new houses are being built with EV in mind you will see power outlets that at home can charge a car in a few hours . Simply free solar electricity .

[@ouethojlkjn]

What you describe is a version of what I have at the moment (minus V2G) and it's marvelous. Having previously run two diesel cars,.Diesel was our biggest expense after groceries.So it's a huge saving not to mention servicing , maintenance and etcetera...

[@zes7215]

wr

[@markmiller8903]

Its not free!!

[@JamisKool]

That'll bump up the overall battery enrgy storage costs significantly.

[@F1Barry]

By the time the blade 2 comes out they will have the blade 3 in development and nearly ready.😊

[@John-p7i5g]

This sort of speed should be applied to PHEVs. If you can recharge a 30kWh battery in 4 minutes, then that's equivalent to filling up with petrol.

[@almdrs]

Those blade batteries are so good I feel like I want to be Samurai.

[@bigdantn]

BYD Blade gen 1 cell C104F (152Ah) has gravimetric density of 186Wh/kg according to the datasheet. Slightly older C102F (138Ah) has gravimetric density of 170Wh/kg. Both have the same dimensions 960*90*13.5 mm.

[@moss550]

I think the biggest reason to buy BYD blade battery is safety rather than max density or max charging speed. The fact that the blade battery doesn't explode and give you a free cremation when puncture is a compromise I am happy to take.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

We should ALL have this technology in our electric vehicles!! I also think that they could easily be made more efficient so that we don’t have to top up on longer trips!!

[@at3941]

next year will be interesting with all the new batteries- competition should be heating up - and more difficult for legacy auto

[@davidpearn5925]

How am i supposed to have lunch after 500 kms if i have to run back and move our Seal. I struggle to think of where or when I'm EVER likely to even NEED a faster charge rate than our old LFP version has. This 'miine's bigger than yours' nonsense is just so irrelevant to the vast majority. LFP safety and endurance is what matters to the grown-ups.

[@thearlongpark]

Exactly what I thought! Also by the time you wait for version 2 to arrive here, order the car, take the delivery of the car and then within a short period of time version 3 will be announced. I have Seal Performance, I don't even charge it to 100%. The only time I charge it to 100% because the car tells me to for battery calibration purposes. I drive 100+ km most of the time as my house is 50km+ from CBD even then I never found a moment that I need more range.

[@ouethojlkjn]

I am considering going the other way when retiring soon and disposing of my model y long-range and getting a dacha spring... It is very encouraging that there is growing variety for people. to match to their specific needs.

[@selenale7748]

Thank you very much sir

[@KashmirParadise786]

My pleasure to hear from you. Thanks for the information

[@electricviking]

My pleasure!

[@leonhubbard9032]

Yeah, the reason i dont have a shark on order is the version 2 battery. I would prefer full elect but will probably take whatever is going at that point

[@GBCobber]

Just a note. A percentage can't be a difference without specifying which side of the difference it's a percentage of.

[@brettmcdonald1798]

Oh goody! cheap BYD’s very soon as they clear the last of the Blade One inventory.

[@jansenwilder1335]

Byd Evo 3 blade is still pretty good for EV vs CATL. All owners need is for the batteries 🔋 to last 7 to 10 years. Long than mobile phones 😅😅😅

[@GF-mf7ml]

What if i buy a 15 years old EV? Pretty sure I still can drive a old Corolla. Wait and see.

[@metricstormtrooper]

My Mitsubishi minicab miev EV Kei van is still going strong and it's old battery tech from 2011.

[@philipfreeman72]

I hear about cold battery use but nothing about hot , here in Thailand 40c is common .

[@Lost_Johnny]

We were at a BYD dealership today. I test drove a Seal. It was fun to drive but, at about 21,000 yuan, it doesn't compete well with cars by X-Peng or Zeekr, which are only a bit more expensive and have self-driving and are more luxurious. The Song is good value if you want a cheap, good car, but it is not what we are looking for.

[@davidandrews8007]

VW plant in St. Thomas Ontario Canada producing batteries will continue.

[@qimingw.4367]

I have a BYD PHEV, I don't care much about charging speed :)

[@zilla85]

Oh, these could be nice batteries for the Model Y SR Juniper

[@mla2385]

I actually have Model Y with ghe old Blade battery and charging is amazin, even in Winter at really cold temperatures it gets its full charging power of 175 KW without much preconditioning. Carging speed on long distances is totally fine here, ok the capacity could be a little higher than 58 KWh. I'm really courious, what battery Tesla will put into the Juniper SR.

[@voster77hh]

That Yangwang ski jump ascent is a remake of an Audi Quattro commercial.

[@icosthop9998]

Seeing is *"Believing"* ⚡️

[@Ausijoeblow]

The truth is they will still continue to innovate even when people refuse to accept reality

[@icosthop9998]

@Ausijoeblow I believe that, this battery technology is still new. Lots of room for Advancement.

[@philipkemp5129]

I have charged my Taycan 4S at 320kw, now and then and its depending on if anyone else is charging, not 350kw because of the Chargers not the car..

[@chryoko]

energy density numbers are at the cell level and depend on, the cell format a lot ! To be simple : => a pouch cell "à la LG" will have the best energy density, NCM only BUT you need a strong module eating on the pack density at the end => a "brick" prismatic cell "à la CATL" will show a lower but still pretty good density (the thicker the better for density but lesser for Fast Charging and power). will be ok with LFP or NCM => a short blade (not too long , up to 600mm, not too thin) is a pretty good optimal solution between power and energy. the best for LFP ! NCM possible up to 300mm long cell. => a long blade cell "à la BYD" , 1.2m long about , LFP compatible only, will not be optimal as it needs to be thin for voltage reason, and will have a lot of can material eating on the available internal volume for the chemistry

[@billhomer9296]

It's ok for big KWT charging but you need the chargers to put out that amount of charging in KWTS ,, or else it's like trickle charging a 12v battery and takes time ,,in Australia the biggest Tesla super charger I've found is only 150 KWTS so will take time to get to a full charge

[@stacysanders-w3e]

Where is the energy to charge the NEW battery going to come from?

[@alexkimlon5851]

Hi Sam, do you know if the BYD sea lion here in Malaysia co es with this new BYD blade battery?

[@mounirjamaaoui9780]

So the Shark is not big and misuse of material. It is a monster mate.

[@tonyrebeiro]

Fast charging is not required if you are on a city trip, well within the driving range of the battery. It should be used only on highway drives, where your travel range becomes an issue, because Fast charging is generally not good for their service life and must be avoided, as far as possible.

[@paulo3564]

When will it really arrive?

[@skywire5595]

They are competing against each others well good for buyers.

[@reeceagland1980]

The issue though for Australia is how many chargers do we have to take advantage of these charging speeds. Still wish the upgraded Seal had these new batteries. Should I wait?

[@marcochang7272]

Will there be a new schenxing , golden or blade 2 LFP battery in the American version of the juniper model y ?

[@CristiCroicu]

to be honnest, you don't even need to charge 5.5 C. If you have a 65-70 kwh in an entry tesla, you can charge on v3 superchargers with the maximum speed (250 hopefully) and it will keep that speed for a long time.... and you might get in 12-14 minutes from 10-80%

[@GetGainTwinS]

Do you think in the current model of byd and denza which be produced in year 2025 will use 2nd gen blade battery as well? Actually i plan to buy Denza D9 in Thailand but i was hesitate after watching your clip. THX

[@jlamm2223443]

my question is price and safety.

[@Jeff-sm8of]

That's why I want to buy ev with no battery. Have battery swapping function. The ev is much less up front cost and I can get the latest tech battery.

[@goonyhill1857]

Have you seen the comments about BYD being in a predicament. They have a 77% debt to asset ratio, which is the same as Evergrande had when they collapsed in China. They have no way to recoup the debt in a 1000 years based on the actual profit they make on each car

[@andders2477]

When talking about energy density is it sell or pack value?

[@onederment]

Maybe if vw struck a deal with BYD then they could use a different battery . The car's engineering is sound... maybe then the car would have a better price point in the market

[@Truthinshredding1]

As well as fast charge, and duration, they still need battery's that are easy and cheap to repair...

[@Tigerratcat]

@BYD Please make a Shark with Tub/rear seat Passthrough and power 180° power tailgate

[@meimiaolin2581]

I wonder if you can swap out your older battery pack for the Version 2?

[@rodf9000]

The vast majority of charging is level 2 or lower, so not that critical of a change. Besides the availability of chargers >250kwh is very limited.

[@gregsutton2400]

congrats on 6k vids

[@chris27gea58]

Regarding the discharge rate of the Blade 2. It is not a question of how an existing motor feels when packaged with the new battery in an EV. On the contrary, the Blade 2 permits manufacturers of EVs to design and build new motors that can take advantage of those fast discharge characteristics. The design of motors and batteries is a sympathetic exercise in which the best results follow from a smooth alignment of the technical features of both parts of the whole. What the Blade 2 permits is the use of specially engineered motors in an EV that can draw charge at a rate that is closer to the high rate that this extraordinary battery can dispatch it. The Blade 2 permits the use of EV motors that can spin up/accelerate faster and hold higher peak revs (rpm) and thus higher speeds when engineered to that end. Of course, having these batteries doesn't mean that the design of a well matched motor will be a straightforward exercise. The motor engineering is an art and science in itself. Great battery designs merely open a space of possibilities for electric motor design. Very bright electric motor engineers still have to come along to create something great for that space. That isn't easy.

[@SaintKimbo]

This is one of the negatives of considering buying an EV, which is off putting There's the possibility of what you are buying today will be completely out of date in a couple of years, and that will subsequently have a large impact on resale value.

[@guringai]

It's not a great concern once you choose any car that meets your needs. We've had a model Y for 2 years & there have been many iterative improvements since then. We still love our car & have no need or want to upgrade.

[@jsanders100]

Lease

[@southkoreausasmaster8805]

So you are Apple lovers

[@Sacto1654]

Hopefully, BYD made the new blade batteries a lot less prone to electrolyte fluid leakage and the resulting fires.

[@wanwan-xo9fl]

BYD is clearing the inventory of the first generation blade batteries

[@lyfandeth]

Where are there 500 kw charger networks? 250 still exceeds the vast majority of the existing chargers, especially in the US. Good for the future...but maybe not for five years.

[@martiruda]

that takes nothing. just remember how the jump from 3 to 4 to 5g has been

[@piusdavidw...]

... God... always... ...

[@targetguy777]

There may be a new way of charging a ev since mazda has a small gas powered engine to charge. I have always said a turbine powered by air would work.

[@mitchellchristianson8120]

Imagine down the road. Mc cube 6.2 megahertz storage you charge up there. Go home discharge and solar storage thats The business plan

[@MikeKisil]

140 000 nutty amount but car is looking to be a limousine? Or they switched body from work van to car that may have made price jump.

[@stephenparker5272]

Is it a game changer?

[@uspermit]

My main concern is how to survive all of these financial and political crisis, especially in light of the US political power scuffle. The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance.

[@StevenAnderson-u2v]

I'm glad you made this comment, I can recall when I was homeless and faced with many things in life until $75,000 biweekly began rolling in and my Life went from A homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!! !!

[@uspermit]

l'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??

[@StevenAnderson-u2v]

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[@YisePradinett]

Same, I met Angela Phyllis last year for the first time at a conference in Wilshire, after then my life changed for good.God bless Angela Phyllis

[@YisePradinett]

Though I started with as low as $8,000 actually because it was my first time and it was successful, she is a great personality in the state

[@sunlightconversions828]

using kilowatts to judge the charging speed isn't really fair. There are likely other limitations involved that don't have anything to do with the battery itself. Additionally, battery kwh needs to be considered. A battery twice the size can generally be charged twice as fast. The battery charging C rate is what needs to be known. I do not know if BYD publishes this.

[@markrowland1366]

Wow, big and expensive. I'm 6" 9'. I want legroom.

[@stark27]

Off topic (kinda). How karge is your Solar system on the house. Panels, Inverter and BESS?

[@S_Curves]

The cost of public charging is so prohibitive. In the balance of things to prioritise in battery/car design, efficiency (kWh/kg) volumetric density and continuous power rating at pack level, are important to me. Vehicle range and Public fast Charging speeds are already good enough. If they improve without compromising improvements in other areas, great!

[@MultiYlin]

the issue is that now we really need a grid to handle these peak and trough ... and the price of charging need to real time as well to reflect it as well: future might be a good idea to tell people

[@Hmmm313]

How is NIO doing???

[@duanejahn2368]

My life savings for a car. Where do I sign? LOL

[@philipfreeman72]

What countries electric co. will pay if you leave your car hooked up to the grid ?

[@esm7708]

Off hand Octopus energy in the UK. I'm pretty sure others do.

[@eeclarkutube]

Wow

[@gregmckenna3858]

I don't care how fast a BYD charges, it is the quality of the whole vehicle and more than one Mechanic in China tells people NOT to buy one.

[@sullivanrachael]

The limitation of charging speed is going to become more a problem of the grid - unable to provide enough electricity - rather than the ability of the cars to soak it up. Wind turbines don’t provide energy on demand - it’s a question of having as many EVs sat plugged into the grid as long and as often as possible, to soak up the turbine output when there is plenty of wind. Then when the wind doesn’t blow the EVs aren’t hungry.

[@rafa374]

Just say the charge TIME

[@barygol]

Still behind CATL Shenxing Plus battery

[@L1VE3V1L]

Yes but will it be a game changer? Missed opportunity Viking.

[@kyliefan7]

😂😂😂They should change the name to Yank Wang!! That would be funnier! 😂😂😂

[@mreyesonthelies4386]

So an EV with V1, would be taking a massive hit on depreciation? The massive cost you never talk about?

[@keithbartlett9947]

They call it the hot blade for a reason

[@advridertim]

How long have you worked for BYD?

[@umersalman1]

Funding by Big Battery

[@icosthop9998]

L😂L This is the first, most people are saying that he is being paid by Tesla.

[@kdusea]

@@icosthop9998 Being paid by Tesla and China. Actually not sure why I am subscribed anymore this guy is obviously a shill, I am done with this channel.

[@monkeysezbegood]

To all Australians. Don't worry about cold temperatures.

[@rickbate2164]

THIS IS A GAME CHANGER BACK THE TRUCK UP AND BUY SILVER.....

[@stefanconstantinescu1576]

I don't think until I see them in Tesla

[@stephenlogsdon8266]

Yo. Love your videos. Question: why don’t eu and America force Chinese companies to partner up with companies in the west to sell there, the way they did to western companies? Share that ip. Turnabout is fair play.

[@stephenlogsdon8266]

Why don’t you make a video on the subject?