Kaabo Mantis Pro SE, Full Riding Review!

My full review of the fun to ride Kaabo Mantis Pro SE, you can see my detailed look at the specs here: • Kaabo Mantis Pro SE El...
Timecodes:
0:00 Introduction
0:37 Folding Clamp
1:09 Handlebar Layout
1:50 Display
2:26 Go Through Speed modes
04:00 Street Riding
6:15 Acceleration
7:35 Feet on Deck
8:10 Braking
8:48 Top Speed Talk
10:30 Tire Discussion
11:07 Rough Bike Lane Riding
12:24 Light Trail Ride
15:50 Ride Control Discussion
16:55 Riding @~20% battery
17:26 Voltage vs. Power Discussion
19:35 Brakes on Trail
20:06 Riding at Low Power
21:20 Range Summary
22:12 Conclusion
Scooter reviewed with the stock display settings. You can change some of the performance parameters (starting torque, throttle sensitivity, etc.) with these settings.
Specification Measured/Verified by Electron Surfer
Reviewer Height/Weight: 5'10"(178cm), 175 lbs (79kg)
Make: Kaabo
Model: Mantis Pro SE
MSRP: $2,299
Warranty: 12-month
Motor: 1,000 watt, dual
Controller Output: 27 amp
Display: Ey3
Battery: 60v/18.2ah = 1092 watt hours,LG cells
Charger/Recharge Time (advertised/observed): 1.75 amp (9-12 hrs, ~12 hrs)
Tires: 12x 2.5 inch tubed
Suspension: Single spring front and rear
Brakes: Zoom hydraulic with 140mm rotor
Water Resistance: Not listed
Weight limit: 330 lbs (149.7 kg)
Scooter Weight (advertised/measured): 65 lbs /63.2 lbs (28.7 kg)
Unfolded Length (LxWxH): 49x24x50 in (1245x610x1270 mm)
Folded Length: 50 in (1270 mm)
Deck Height: 8.5 in (216 mm)
Deck Clearance: 6 in (152 mm)
Deck (length x width): 20 X 8.25 in (508 X 210mm)
Handlebars from deck: 40 in (1016 mm)
Handlebar Rotation: 90°+
Handlebar Width: 24 in (610 mm)
Performance Summary
Advertised Range: 40 mi (64 km)
Observed Range: 34.2 mi (55 km)
Advertised Top Speed: not advertised
Observed Top Speed: 30 + mi (48 + km)
Advertised Hill Climb: 30%
Tested Hill Climb: 8°/14%

[@ElectronSurfer]

It has come to my attention that you can adjust the Kaabo Mantis suspension, here is one video showing the general process kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaGae6F9n9eters. Note that Fluid Freeride references this video and also doesn't recommend the adjustment and that the user was turning the adjustment screw the wrong way. So if you do adjust your Mantis suspension, please use caution.

[@keithancajas4623]

nice detailed review! thanks.

[@GenZyannd]

Thank you for the detailed review and commentaries. Adding 1 more section demoing folding and lifting would be nice.

[@ElectronSurfer]

I'll do that next time, It's a pretty simple fold with the Mantis. I have noticed that the latch is a bit on the small side and I've had it pop off while lifting it. Thanks for the comment.

[@ChrumkavySuchar]

Very nice review and informative. Thank you

[@ElectronSurfer]

You got it, happy to help!

[@rcadventuresoffical]

Love your videos

[@ElectronSurfer]

I appreciate it, thanks!

[@GingerOnWheels]

Nice review! Very detailed. You're the 3rd person I've come across though that has made me think my P settings are off. You said your friend who was 260lbs still got 37mph?? Was that GPS verified or using the scooter speedo?

[@ElectronSurfer]

Thanks and much appreciated. The 37 mph rider was using the display, I never ride that fast so I didn't really correlate the speedo to GPS at those kind of speed. At speeds under 25mph I found the display registering a little low vs. the GPS speed.

[@mmante78]

Finally drove my Mantis Pro SE the past weekend and this beauty is scary fast. I’m like you, I want a scooter that is capable of high speed but only when needed. My settings is set to 75% on power, gear set on 3, turbo mode single motor. I should try your settings driving dual motor but on eco. It should be almost the same speed as mine. Thanks for the ride! 🍻

[@ElectronSurfer]

The Mantis is a little beast, so yeah getting your settings dialed in will really help. Thanks!

[@ChrumkavySuchar]

Thank you for the nice review. I cannot decide between Mantis and Inokim OX :/ OX is bit pricier, ( 1700 € mantis vs 2000€ OX weight similar, OX is not that fast but really don't want to go that fast, just want to have comfy ride - good suspension and throttle modulation. Uaaaaa, any hints ?

[@ElectronSurfer]

I have not ridden any Inokim scooters but from what I've seen they look very good quality-wise. The Mantis suspension can be adjusted somewhat, some distributors don't suggest it though. I would say the throttle modulation isn't that great unless you use eco mode and also tailor the "P" settings. That might not be helpful, hopefully someone else may chime in.

[@Ghigareda01]

Nice video just shows how much better electric scooters have improved, I’m a heavy guy and I keep reading that this scooter is the one to get.

[@ElectronSurfer]

If possible I would ride a few options. If you know you want 60v and dual motors, the Mantis has a lot going for it, especially at Voro's current sale price.

[@mattjohnson8972]

I weigh 275 it rides nice It’s very Torquey

[@jakenotfromstatefarm]

This is probably the best review I've seen on this scooter thank you so much! I've been debating purchasing this scooter I'm looking for something $2,500 or under. What do you think would be my best choice?

[@ElectronSurfer]

@Jake Allen, much appreciated! $2,500 is a good budget, I would ask what is the biggest factor to you, speed, range, off-road ability, portability and also what is your weight?

[@jakenotfromstatefarm]

@@ElectronSurfer thank you for your response. This will actually be my first scooter. I way about 200 lb. Honestly I'm looking for something that's the most comfortable ride in my price range. Some off-road capabilities would be nice but not necessary.

[@ElectronSurfer]

@@jakenotfromstatefarm I would say you want for sure at least 10" tires. You could really go single or dual motor. A lot of dual motor scooters aren't as comfortable as say the Emove Cruiser (very comfy). If you live near a dealer I strongly suggest riding a few scooters. I would look at the Dualtron/Minimotors options, the stems aren't quite a solid as some but the build and motor is worth the cost to me. The elastomer suspension in a lot of the Dualtron's has the best ride I have found for stock scooters. I feel like I may be hindering more than helping. Feel free to ask more questions but most importantly have fun when you get your ride!

[@corypoteet6543]

I got my SE from voro for $1699, don’t know if the sale’s still going but I’d check for sure!! At 25 there’s plenty options but at 17 it’s a no brainer!!

[@ramonconaway1395]

I have it and man it to work and back and it’s amazing

[@ElectronSurfer]

Great I know some other folks that commute on this scooter and it really holds up, cheers!

[@antonymontana8436]

Is it good quality built ? Price is high so i hope . Nice video watching it from France

[@ElectronSurfer]

Hello, the build on the Mantis is quite good, more solid than other 10x based scooters. The price is pretty fair when you look at what you are getting. Thanks for watching!

[@JULIANysuHOHNER]

Is this really worth?i was considering the mantis 10 base model for 500 dls cheaper!!

[@ElectronSurfer]

I don't know much about the 10 base model, if that one has the specs you want then I would say buy it!

[@OrionBurdick]

Nice video. I won't reveal where it is for privacy reasons, but I recognized some of these areas right away because I live in the same suburb. I have a Varla Pegasus that has solid tires, and you may agree that some streets in our area haven't been re-paved in quite some time. So it can get a bit bumpy, which makes me consider getting a scooter with pneumatic tires and possibly better suspension. From your explanation that the Mantis suspension is stiff, and the fact that I've heard that elsewhere, makes me think maybe this isn't the choice for me if I want a plusher ride. Though the range would be an upgrade I'm also looking for.

[@ElectronSurfer]

Hello Neighbor...I am not secretive about my location and yes many of our streets are just plain terrible! I have noticed that most of the Kaabo products come out of the box setup pretty stiff. I have heard you can adjust the suspension but I didn't try. I would just look for tires that have separating rims so the inevitable tire changes are reasonable. I sort of like the solid tire options with suspension, even though you get some brain scrambling. I do have a Eagle One if you want to message me through my website, www.electronsurfer.com you are welcome to ride it. I really like some of the Dualtron products, they don't give them away but the quality is a notch above most. Cheers!

[@OrionBurdick]

@@ElectronSurfer you're awesome, thank you. Checking your site now. Yes, apparently you can adjust the Mantis suspension stiffness: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaGae6F9n9eters

[@SingerUnkn0wn]

my mantis pro se the brakes pulse, front and back, almost like its antilock brakes or maybe battery regen?

[@ElectronSurfer]

That sounds like the antilock brakes, they just pulse and are not a true ABS in my mind. You can disable that in the P settings, do you have the P settings list?

[@Fullblown671]

You mentioned a fingerprint reader can be installed on this but what about a key ignition lock? Do they sell one for this particular model?

[@ElectronSurfer]

The voltmeter/key is more complicated because it ties in the wiring harness, I don't know if they have an option for that. The fingerprint reader works on the Ey3 display and I get it here minimotorsusa.com/collections/accessories/products/dualtron-fingerprint-reader. I've installed a few now and they work nicely.

[@Fullblown671]

@@ElectronSurfer Oh okay! Cool! Thank You! I am thinking of getting the Mantis 10 Pro as well but I was bummed when I found out that there's no security feature that prevents the scooter from being stolen. With the fingerprint reader it should be a pretty good deterrent.

[@rcadventuresoffical]

just to update this exact scooter is still going strong 💪 and im not easy on it by any means

[@ElectronSurfer]

Awesome good to hear, we will have to see if you end up with a Bronco and how that works for you!

[@JULIANysuHOHNER]

Is this the 18.2ha battery?

[@ElectronSurfer]

Yes, I put all the specs down in the description. All the measurements were ones I collected not manufacturer specs.

[@ytasherbs5978]

Does anyone know what the standing height is(deck to handlebars) ?

[@ElectronSurfer]

40", I always include that in my description below, cheers!

[@ytasherbs5978]

@@ElectronSurfer thanks

[@kygnonkone1278]

HEY is this scooter too big to fit on the bus ? koz i take the bus sometime to the city.

[@ElectronSurfer]

I think carrying the scooter onto the bus would be the biggest challenge and if they allow it. When folded both tires are on the ground so you have to hold it or lay it on it's side, I'm not sure it would fit under most bus/train seats.

[@GhullieUser]

You can adjust the suspension there are a few vids on youtube that guide you through it. Trust me its worth it if you are lighter rider.

[@ElectronSurfer]

That is great to hear, I'm going to pin a comment to this effect. Cheers and thank you!

[@toreysmith1781]

Do you have the LG battery

[@ElectronSurfer]

Yes I do.

[@garyandpattyworley6832]

The mat is like that to be able to get to the bolts

[@ElectronSurfer]

That totally makes sense, I have had to cut or remove the grip tape on the Zero 10x's for maintenance. Thanks for chiming in!

[@MAYOWA.007]

Im coming from the motorcylce world so i need speed. Had a Ducati Monster. So yea. In between motorcycles right now.

[@ElectronSurfer]

There is a lot of speed out there right now, I have a Bronco 11+ Extreme ready to review and it is insane!

[@-joo3033]

Mantis 10 means its a 10" model, theres also a Mantis 8 that has 8" tires

[@ElectronSurfer]

Excellent, thanks for letting everyone know!

[@-joo3033]

@@ElectronSurfer 👍

[@raww323]

The 2022 model is slower in eco mode it only does 15mph where the lower models do 22mph in eco mode

[@ElectronSurfer]

Interesting, this mildly functional eco mode is pretty frustrating. I guess you could tone down turbo mode if you aren't a fast rider. Did you do changes to the P settings?

[@rinzl3rs349]

standing still but going 7mph.. You really need to adjust that throttle to where it should be. Also fix your P settings, your settings are way off. Single motor can do 30mph and dual will do 37-40 without breaking a sweat.

[@ElectronSurfer]

The P-settings were correct. If you are looking at the GPS speed there is a slight delay because of the nature of the GPS data, also when I am under tree's the GPS may not be totally accurate. Thanks

[@donl3130]

I'm a runner and I use a GPS watch. Often, at the beginning - after acquiring a signal - I can't trust the speed reading. In some rare cases I've had 240 mph reading if I started the GPS right then. Usually it's 10, 12 or 17 mph. If I wait 10-15 seconds I have no problem.

[@lolosolodolo1]

I just picked up one of these used for $700

[@ElectronSurfer]

That's a sweet deal, enjoy the ride!

[@smoxesk]

if only i could find at that price why am here #UK

[@_nom_]

This is one bumpy ass ride

[@ElectronSurfer]

Yeah it's a bit firm, you are supposed to be able to adjust the suspension but yes, everything I have reviewed from Kaabo was stiff riding.