ELITE KONNIK vs EVERY UNIQUE UNIT | AoE II: Definitive Edition

[@aoe2and3fan]

Tremendous work! Thank you very much! It's my favourite series so far! ^_^ To know which unit is stronger then another, I think this format is the best. The question of ressources-based combat is, while important and if possible worth a second series, in my opinion a secundary one because of population limits and the difficulty to actually have ressources-based combats. (Often and typically the Goth way, it's an about equal numbers fight at the start, that is then - but only then! - evolving: 15v15+more trickling in - flooding in for the Goths -, as soon as population slots have become available again). I like post-imp. battles, because units cannot be even more improved (except for team bonuses), this is then how it finally is. Concerning ranged units, they are always stronger if helped with micro or environment. But sometimes there is for some of those units somewhere on the map just no time to micro and no favourable environment either. I therefore really like this microless series on open field, where especially those ranged units can be surrounded. In other words, this is their minimal strength. If they beat a certain unit under these for them difficult circumstances, they'll always beat him. 15v15 is also a nice number, as it's (I think) one, that one can encounter often. Epic battles in the genre of 600v600 are a lot of fun for sure (like them a lot!), but they not precisely realistic in actual games. ;-) Nice you've really included *all* the unique units, and not "just" the castle unique units. Finishing with the flaming camel is literally finishing with firework. :-D I'm also a big fan that you always click a unit of both sides, so we can see their stats before the clash. Last but certainly not least, I also like that you write at the very beginning of the video which version of the game it is (ie which update), because of all the hidden stats (bonus damage, ROF, etc.). Thank you again for all the work/research!

[@MikeEmpires]

I’m sorry this comment passed me by, man. Thank you very much for such a supportive comment. You just made my day. I have to keep evolving, but I’ll always have a special place in my heart for 600 vs 600 battles like I did for so many years. I’ll do equal resources as well. It’s more work, but since you guys request it to be the next series and the channel is growing so fast, I must do it. Thank you very much.

[@Luisalex1997]

Mucho texto

[@HyunAOP]

Just saw a drunk Bulgarian man fall off his horse. I guess he drank too much Gin and Konnik!

[@filipgatev7661]

In Bulgaria we drink rakia! Its traditional alcohol :D Наздраве 🥃😂

[@billyBk91]

badam psst

[@Silverhandopium]

@@filipgatev7661 Turkish drink lol

[@filipgatev7661]

@@Silverhandopium Actually no, there are a lot of scripts and reports that Rakia is way older than the Ottoman empire. Its common balkan drink which turks actually took after they came here :)

[@Snaphelio]

Ranged units: we kill them before they reach us Konnik: rise again Ranged units: WT...

[@burtreynolds4577]

*Rise up from the dust They: (Whit thanos voice) IMPOSSIBLE...

[@devinosland359]

Konniks only lost to Mamaluke and Boyar really. They also lost to war elephants and ETK but in equal numbers thats pretty much a given for any troop

[@DibbzTheLoner]

Same for all the infantry matchups, it being 20v20 instead of balanced resource costs makes the comparisons kinda pointless.

[@LeandroJelicic]

Actually the leitis did very well. Probably if they have 2 or 3 reliqs, wich increase the leitis power, they could have a chance against de konniks

[@nikitakrylov7669]

I dont think equal numbers is fair, they shouldve been based on equal resources

[@simonv8536]

Nikita Krylov no what’s the fun of that,

[@QuentyNod]

@@simonv8536 its logical, not fun

[@shoonseiki]

@@QuentyNod not logical in Team games when pop efficiency is more important

[@Noumankhan-nx9nz]

@@QuentyNod but there is population limit as well

[@darneljones8700]

The sound of the flails hitting those archers as they get mowed down can almost feel the nightmare those poor units are going through

[@iannalemme]

13:18 i laughed my ass off

[@MegaDonker]

Konnik: You kill my horse, NOW I GOING TO KILL AND I WILL DESTROY YOUUU

[@slayer65xd]

WOW! Them imperial camels got thrashed by the konniks

[@slayer65xd]

as well as the elite samurai and elite leitis

[@gursimarsingh5505]

Because camel are only good against mounted unit

[@PhanHuyLe-go6ye]

so I think Konnik is the cavalry unit best counter against camel in the present. Becouse when they fall down, they shall not die, but fight as mounted unit

[@kampfer91]

The power of reincarnate .....

[@TheFrankoalberto]

The most cost efficient unit in the game, by far

[@cuccooverlord9812]

Imperial camels.

[@razu93]

Not really, because you still have to pay for the two full sets of Blacksmith upgrades

[@dempsoadd7717]

Keshik

[@mnmmnmm]

@@razu93 they get 50% reduced cost on blacksmith upgrades

[@cannnds]

@@razu93 you’re gonna eventually get those upgrades since you are focusing both infantry and cavalry line units and you can basically ignore archer upgrades.

[@TheNewMaxico]

I think konnik and war elephants are the only unique units that can kill ballista elephants with equal numbers and they dont even do bonus damage. Now imagine how strong those mustve been before they got nerfed.

[@jonkoxl2069]

mameluke?

[@phdbot4483]

I know the Mangudai didn't win in their video, but I think with proper micromanagement by dodging their shots and focus-firing, they would've won. They do bonus damage against siege which Ballista Elephants are classified as after all.

[@TheNewMaxico]

@@phdbot4483 yes, all fast moving ranged units defeat all slower moving melee units with proper micro

[@ahstinfixsnhc9765]

I'm surprised mamalukes did so well when the axe throwers failed lol

[@Bzhydack]

Mameluke has bonus vs cavalry.

[@ahstinfixsnhc9765]

@@Bzhydack 07 11

[@ivanadiego6067]

They are really dificoult to counter properly. A combination of archers and camels might be a good option

[@Asterix958]

just go halberdier. Halberdier has 60 bonus damage against elephants. It kill in 10 hit. Camel can't beat elephant despite its 18 bonus damage. 18 bonus is not enough to beat Elephant but Mameluke can beat with his 12 bonus damage because he has range.

[@Asterix958]

Sorry I think you talk about elephant.

[@eliteteutonicknight1]

@@Asterix958 halberdiers should be backed up with archers, otherwise the dismounted Konniks will just beat the daylights out of them.

[@Asterix958]

@@eliteteutonicknight1 dismounted konnik pretty weak. Sacrifing Halberdiers for dismount them is logical choice ı suppose.

[@eliteteutonicknight1]

​@@Asterix958 Yeah, they are logical, but having backup is always a good thing against Konniks. Even though they attack at a rather slow rate and have 10 less HP, Halberdiers still have trouble against the dismounted ones due to attack power alone. You definitely don't want the dismounted ones being sent on a suicide mission into your economy if they manage to get through.

[@d34dsouI]

It would be great if you can also add source equivalent match series.

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

konnik themselves are great unit but...the civ is kinda underwhelming to play

[@TheElectricPie1]

TheBikeOnTheMoon bruh

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

@Jahan Thakur lack of good eco bonus and no Xbow opening. Also, they require huge investment on upgrade

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

@Jahan Thakur my pleasure, early MMA rush is ok-ish but they get destroyed easily by archer early, and they can't just run away from bad fight. Also they just aren't very good for harassing like archer or scout.

[@GeoffreideCharny]

You can go maa into skirms... then cav in castle age

[@josuecracknoob4650]

200 konniks vs 100 kamayuks and 100 slingers

[@Dansk55]

Have Persian elephants ever lost to anyone? lol

[@Bzhydack]

No. They are just to superior in terms of HP. Maybe in greater numbers Mamelukes or Kamayuks will beat them.

[@manuam98]

Monks

[@Bzhydack]

@@manuam98 yep, but we are talking about Unique Units.

[@manuam98]

@@Bzhydack Missionaries

[@kampfer91]

He should only make half of the elephant , elephant always win by superior HP and damage .

[@creatorleo7578]

- Why you always only attack Moravians and East Francia in Honfoglalás? - ...

[@gabrielangelpuebla3676]

Exelente video! Konniks 💪🏽

[@vitorpimentel2145]

Pretty tough unit

[@victor6010]

what does kill them that's the question

[@mingrael4407]

Bulgarians: konniks die twice!

[@tunch90]

And that's when the dead men are marching again

[@ensarunal901]

Konniks are good

[@javierramos185]

en vez de colocar números iguales por bando, deberías poner costo de unidad equivalente, así sabríamos si vale la pena pelear...

[@ИвайлоСтоянов-б3м]

If you add stirrups they are much stronger, take a look at the video of spirit of the law about civ with the strongest hussar, Bulgarian hussar with stirrups was stronger then Mongolian hussar with more hit points.

[@tobiasechwald3058]

They are fully upgraded in the video

[@bsn_cs]

I dont even know what to rate this. This unit is just OP. You cant counter it with a single unit. You need as an example pikes for the mounted version and archers for the infantry version

[@burtreynolds4577]

Yeah you are right!! have a nice day my bro :D

[@bsn_cs]

@@burtreynolds4577 you too man

[@ahstinfixsnhc9765]

If you had more samurai or cataphracs I think they'd get them Samurai bonus damage to unique and cats do damage to adjacent units (logistics i think) I haven't seen the Teutonic Knight one yet but they should win no problem

[@ahstinfixsnhc9765]

So konniks cost 60 food 70 gold and samurais cost 60 food 30 gold So equal ress it would be closer to 14 vs 21 samurais and they'd for sure take it lol But the cats are 70 food 75 gold so I don't think they'll counter as effectively as I initially thought

[@burtreynolds4577]

@@ahstinfixsnhc9765 You are right but in big numbers but a good strategy are Samurai + Crossbow g day bro! :D

[@burtreynolds4577]

Good video Mike, nice day!!!

[@ronkawasaki1896]

Better to bring a coffin ⚰️ against Teutonic Knights slow yet strongest unit in the gAme

[@Galko655e]

2:41 Reason why Konniks can't beat War Eliphants,not because they're high HP tanks, but because they're African eliphants. 7:07 , 11:54 While Konniks can beat Eliphant Archers & Ballista Eliphants, is not because they're have less HP than War Eliphants & but because they're Indian eliphants.

[@radovanbabjak7903]

Are you from India?

[@Galko655e]

@@radovanbabjak7903 no, just know the diffirence between species.

[@thenerdest]

12:22 for me it was a comeback

[@bobeyay]

Now make a vid with equal rss!

[@MikeEmpires]

AWK1993 I promise I’ll do it.

[@ahstinfixsnhc9765]

You should do 14 unique unit vs equal resources of each other unique unit lol samurais would have had that fight

[@ahstinfixsnhc9765]

I bet axe throwers would have done better as well not sure tho

[@Apocalypso64]

You cut too early on a lot of these. It seems to happen in all your videos when it comes to the Konnik.

[@denislavdochev3783]

Poor jaguars...

[@darktermi1993]

they beat imperial camel???? what the fuck is this unit!!!?

[@hevnaham414]

Disgusting how you dont use the best part of the bulgarain civ song

[@usarmyspecialforces5879]

I want boyar

[@lukewhatidid1735]

Bulgarian push nothing 10 monks can’t fix

[@dEnguesito7506]

maybe it's time to nerf konnink

[@raullopez8503]

First :v

[@burtreynolds4577]

Un clásico :v

[@dannyduchamp]

This was dumb. You should have equalized resources, not population.

[@Phil-rz3ix]

He currently alsondoes a equal ressources series. But amyway, equal pop is also important because in many cases in late imperial ressources doesn't matter that much amymore and whoever wins a battle with 2 same pop armies, will be the one over running the oppoments base. Ressource efficiency is more important in Castle age engagement, comparison to counter units or in a streched game when ressources especialy gold can become rare. So its good to know that your persian elephants in high numbers can overrun everything. But when countered with cost effective hellebadiers the one strike can be your last and when you lose momentum its over. So overall its quite cool to know which units are the most pop effective.

[@UglyApprentice]

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