Elizabeth Holmes Reinvents Herself as a Victim Who Will Change the World | Analysis of NYT Interview

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the interview of Elizabeth Holmes published in the New York Times in May 2023?
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[@hoperising7373]

People who didn’t think she really affected anyone should be aware my boyfriend got bloodwork done by Theranos and thought he was dying of liver failure because of how screwed up the numbers were. This woman is evil.

[@miraclenichols4332]

This right here is what infuriates me so about her- I’m just gonna keep having babies so I won’t have to go to jail crap!!! That’s a monster that could do that to your boyfriend!!!!

[@stefanforrer2573]

@@nocnoc9931 yes, that is true..... doesn't change the fact that she needs to be held accountable for her actions

[@marcdraco2189]

Seems to me there should be a civil prosecution against Holmes for all the people she actually hurt.

[@Akinwalesegun]

​@NocNoc sure there are worse murder out there let let everyon who killed while under the influence out......lets not stop there lets also let those who murder less than 3 people out cos there are worse murderes out there.....lets let everyon whose crime is less than murdering 3 people go

[@tasha3757]

That's horrible 😢

[@cobracommander8133]

This woman is a sociopath if ever there was one. It’s scary how easily they can reinvent themselves to suit their changing needs/goals.

[@Ditchhead]

The weirdest part to me is if you want to know if someone is a sociopath there are a massive amount of free resources online. I guess that "superficial charm" really is powerful.

[@MusMasi]

having a baby to escape responsibility the height of selfishness

[@maryaswell9943]

She even changed her voice to appear more “professional” Jeeze

[@Shawaeon]

Anyone who still believes her bullshit is an absolute fool and deserves to be scammed. Anyone who believed and invested in Theranos was a fool who didn't do their research and deserved to be scammed.

[@SciHeartJourney]

Lex Luthor changes his wigs like she changes personalities.

[@danbaldry1925]

She is not a ‘failed tech entrepreneur’. She is a fraud and a criminal. Failure implies she genuinely tried something. That isn’t the case and it seems unlikely that she understood anything about what she was doing, apart from how to deceive others.

[@MrAerohank]

Indeed. There is no shame in failing to create a start-up. It's not a bad character trait to start something ambitious and not succeeding. Holmes is a manipulative liar who defrauds people and who has no remorse for having done so - instead, she is just preparing her next grift.

[@Marg205]

@@MrAerohank nobody will believe bots

[@albertschulz5575]

Very, very true! I lol'ed so hard when Dr. Grande said she wanted to "continue to work at health Care inventions" or whatever. First of all, she never even started. Secondly, she has NO QUALIFICATIONS at all in that field!!! She's utterly incompetent in medical or scientific subjects by any measure!!!

[@crabstick250]

Agreed. Fake it til you make it.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

Great point

[@Etcher]

"Elizabeth used a normal voice for the interview" kind of tells you all you need to know about this woman

[@lornarettig3215]

It must have been tiring to use that stupid deep and obviously fake voice all the time. It’s probably a relief to pretend it was part of this ‘character’ she was playing 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@sergeipohkerova7211]

Her voice reminds me of when I'm on the phone pretending to be my dad and telling the school secretary I'm sick. I mean, that my kid is sick.

[@lynne8755]

lol

[@MusMasi]

🤣💀

[@steverl22]

BINGO 😂😂😂

[@jsmithsemper4848]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelconrad4445]

I relate

[@AL-wv8jx]

“I am unfairly having consequences for my actions.” - E Holmes

[@british.scorpion]

She actually said that? 🤣She's nuts.

[@alethea6781]

It reminds me of my daughter at six saying, “Everything I do you blame on me!”

[@vanessamiller9202]

Jesus Christ 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@tomheineman4369]

At least she isn't amass shooter

[@Mia-tn5th]

😂😂😂Yes, for her to be fair, she should have been in jail rn.

[@TAGMZs63]

What disturbed me a lot about Elizabeth, Liz, or whatever she wants to call herself was her lack of emotion when her lead engineer died by suicide. This woman was concerned only with getting the "top secret " documents from his wife. She reminds me of the snake in the children's movie The Jungle Book. Mesmerizing unblinking eyes, able to almost hypnotize people, essentially older men. She's now delaying the inevitable and should report to prison to serve her sentence. Maybe Liz no longer associates herself with Elizabeth, therefore she believes the sentence no longer applies.

[@miraclenichols4332]

Amen!!

[@rockyevans1584]

She seems to have hypnotized the women interviewing her here. Maybe manipulative people don't just fool old, desperate, undesirable old men. I'm not an old man but I love calling out hypocrisy from people who love pinning something on a gender that clearly isn't the root of it

[@mulemule]

*Ian Gibbons.* His suicide was no coincidence: it was right before he was to testify in what would've revealed Elizabeth's wholesale fraud of using his esteemed name and reputation to legitimize and file dozens of dubious patents. She humiliated him mercilessly and banished him from HQ. All while he was dying of cancer. She's a vile, remorseless, destroyer of lives.

[@carriefawcett9990]

Weird, she isn't even beautiful with that strangely shaped face. She has poor bone structure.

[@ALT-vz3jn]

@@rockyevans1584I’m guessing the reporter was fairly young and got impressed by the whole ‘saintly mother’ shtick that sociopath Holmes is now trying to sell. Older people already know that parenthood doesn’t make someone a good person suddenly.

[@TheRaspberry82]

“Legal defense took more stretching than yoga!!!” 😂😂😂 You just never disappoint Dr Grande!

[@Mannyr-bu7qv]

He's a beast!!! That was cold blooded

[@Haywood-Jablomi]

Having 2 children when you know they have you dead to rights on your crimes is one of the most sociopathic things I can think of. The kids are probably better off without their mother’s influence, but no child should have to be born into this situation to begin with. She is a sick woman that is not capable of rehabilitation.

[@beaulieuc8910]

agreed

[@paulajohnson139]

Well said.

[@Jimmy911ism]

They can't visit her?

[@twinkiecrunch6344]

Even Dr Grande doesn't diagnose d/o's. Wow you must be so skilled in psychology 🙄🤣

[@swarti2036]

A psychopathic mother 🤔. Nah … the kids would be better off in care !

[@markthomas6980]

I know people that are in Federal prison for way less than her.. this country takes care of the rich and normal citizen’s are locked up for minor charges. It’s a rotten shame. Money talks.

[@gatewaysolo104]

Female privilege too

[@AnnSmajstrla]

Right? She should have been locked up a LONG time ago.

[@rolandm9750]

The fact that she thinks she will probably be one day running another large company...is probably true. With her fiancee's wealth and influence, there's no stopping that. Unless he gets tired and dumps her while she's in prison. Even then she'll find some other chump to "charm" her way about.

[@rstokes9630]

​@@gatewaysolo104 bahahaha. What a crock.

[@Snibble]

She was a bilionaire on paper but that's all gone! It's because she is a woman..

[@romarobbins270]

The narcissism is strong in this Elisabeth. How can the writer say Elisabeth is a brilliant inventor, she didn’t invent anything but a hoax.

[@quantumrobin4627]

“And…… made her wear black turtlenecks” 🤣

[@lucasley20]

Yeah, she was a weirdo from the beginning. That fake voice and those make believe doll eyes were creepy to me. The scariest part is how many fell for her scam!

[@DevRSVR]

Totally with you on that. A horrible piece of work from the beginning. I do feel sorry for her children which she only seems to have had to avoid jail. I hope she does at least 7 years AND she never gets into the limelight again. .

[@donsmith9194]

It makes you wonder if any of these top investors are legit.

[@guydreamr]

The voice was fake, but the bulging eyes were real and are characteristic with people diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder. In fact, there's a term for it - "sociopathic stare."

[@benhartart9487]

as you too would fall head over heels for her scams ;)

[@barneyronnie]

Sadly, though, her new flunky is wealthy (naturally).

[@erintheunready7575]

What does she think she has to offer when she's not a biologist, not a chemist, and not an engineer? Ideas are just that, especially if they're impossible practically.

[@jeffersonott4357]

Well, she did get into Stanford and impress all kinds of really intelligent, high level people. Those are both impressive. If she had kept it at that, she coulda been a successful person

[@MusMasi]

@@jeffersonott4357 maybe if she got into sales and marketing other people come up with the math and inventions and she can just be the face.

[@Koozomec]

​@@jeffersonott4357She is not the first to fool academics.

[@pmazurek559]

I'm trying to invent a 1-inch by 1-inch solar panel that can gather enough energy in one day to power a house for an entire year. Care to invest?😂

[@rolandm9750]

Same things as before. She can offer scamming to idiots that believe her nonsense. Only this time around *everyone* should know better.

[@74357175]

Great analysis; the only missing is that the fraud was not just financial but also real patients with real medical needs. The journalist asked nothing about whether she has remorse for endangering these people's health.

[@johnnyearp52]

True. She would just lie anyway but they should have asked.

[@PungiFungi]

@@johnnyearp52 to this day she kept saying her lab team told her it worked when none of them said so otherwise while on the stand,

[@johnnyearp52]

@@PungiFungi She knew it didn't work.

[@74357175]

@@PungiFungi yeah, hard to square that with the retaliation they meted out to whistleblowers

[@rodyates4771]

I remember in the documentary on her a doctor of some stature told her it was impossible what she was wanting to do twice.

[@nfcboys1984]

Dude… You have without a doubt the most hilarious dry sense of humor I’ve ever seen… Your videos remind me a little if a cross between watching a Bob Ross episode mixed with Dr. Phil… love your channel man.

[@LaurenThompson702]

Dr. Phil doesn't have anything on Dr. Grande.

[@nfcboys1984]

@@LaurenThompson702 this is true

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

To me the main difference between Dr. Grande and Dr. Phil is that I actually watch Dr. Grande's stuff.

[@LaurenThompson702]

@Ratzfourtyfour And I'm not sure but, is Dr. Phil even a real doctor? If not, that's a big difference too. Lol.

[@pigs6486]

Dr. Grande was dead wrong about Elizabeth Holmes last video, complete 180 this time around.

[@MySkinnydip]

So basically rich weirdos shouldn’t do jail time like the rest of us!🙄I’m pretty sure if I got pregnant it would not delay my trial in the least!

[@awakeningEmpath]

if EH went to prison she would squirm her way up the prison privileges until she got to cleaning the governors' office , then she would charm & dupe the governor into giving her the keys, then the governor would mysteriously disappear & EH would be promoted in their place for good behaviour, then she would run for State Governor, then fellow grandiose narcissist Trump would finance her bid for the White House, then she would be "elected" (ie self-promoted) to the first female President, then she would run out a booster jab program & poison the entire opposition, then she would hold a coronation to crown her Empress of the United States and Taiwan and the Entire Free World, until one of her children releases a book exposing EH as a genocidal fraud & a narcissistic impostor & then EH will play the victim in the Supreme Court & claim libel & defamation of characters, then back in prison she will have a sex change, need I go on....

[@sahraxxx5927]

Yes but the bitch thinks it will give her sympathy and she hopes a more lenient sentence

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Correct. She should already be in prison camp by now. The level of entitlement is thoroughly disgusting.

[@kellyandrews8161]

The trial ended.😢

[@haleytruslow7200]

I can’t imagine why the Times thought it would be a good idea to run an article painting her as a victim. We all know what she’s really like

[@PungiFungi]

But the way the article ended, did it painted her as victim? What I took from it is that the reporter realized her entire time there had been one big con. Instead of saying it flat out, she's letting the rest of us to come to the same conclusion.

[@k.hendrickson8735]

Because bad people sell the news, Unfortunately.

[@sarahelizabeth299]

She deserves prison. I believe Sunny has already started his sentence. How many people has she hurt? RIP Ian Gibbons.

[@energybrown]

Love the line about how working on her legal defence involved more stretching than her yoga did! 😆

[@ivaerak]

Classic dr Grande oneliner. It's what we're all here for

[@nathanbanks2354]

Yup! It's at 3:55

[@k.hendrickson8735]

Me too, his humor is great!

[@MartineH1]

How she could delude so many and so long is the one million question. Every single thing she did was a sign of deception, starting with the factum that she didn't have the education and knowledge to achieve what she was saying she did! This is typical of a narcissist one, people that can be highly manipulative.

[@redpilledpict2747]

She obviously had some skills. She managed to scam so many people who should have known better. Rupert Murdoch,George Shultz,Carlos Slim,Henry Kissinger,James Mattis,The Walton Family,The Devoss Family, Sam Nunn and the CEO's of Betchel and Wells Fargo and many others.

[@Big_Tex]

I think there is just a set of people in the world who are very easily conned and manipulated.

[@beckydoesit9331]

Well, sometimes deceptors have the best ideas that change the world. Holmes left to her own ambitions would have produced so many life saving devices in the medical field by now. Not only is she a victim in this entanglement, but the world is no better off without Theranos. Her investors did fine. And so did the people that benefited from her stuff. Its stupid how f--ed up this played out to be and I'm sure many more to come. Catch more live at 10:00.

[@TonyRedunzo]

You can't cheat an honest man. Holmes preyed on the dishonesty in most men, and exploited it... thus an honest man can't be cheated. There's no dishonesty to exploit.

[@Ad-Lo]

Also, she wants to go back to her day job.

[@pennywisethedancingclown4024]

Listen, I was SA’d in college too. That doesn’t turn you into an investor deceiving fraud. Elizabeth likely already had sociopathic traits and *maybe* the trauma broke her, but to me, it seems like a scapegoat excuse designed to elicit sympathy and explain away her bad behavior. A lot of SA victims go on to do good things, so her case holds no water.

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Correct.

[@k.hendrickson8735]

Penny wise, Dead on correct. But she played EVERY card in her hand to wiggle out of her consequences. And so sorry for your sad experience, it happens to more people than anyone realizes.

[@meaningfulmakings]

I agree. Many people recover from huge trauma. I did and many others have too. Despite what happens to us we still have choices.

[@antonfarquar8799]

EXCELLENT analysis - I grew up in Houston and am familiar with the schools she attended - sadly the most important thing in this milieu is status - not based on academic excellence , integrity or honor but on the superficialities of wealth and being "cool" . She is the product of a toxically artificial narcissistic fantasy land where that which is valued has absolutely no value whatsoever.

[@michaelconrad4445]

You nailed it

[@antonfarquar8799]

@@michaelconrad4445 Thank you !!

[@k.hendrickson8735]

Well, her dad was a CEO at Enron so….. It may be biological.

[@Mary-hs3gu]

There were people who died bc of her. She got a totally inappropriately light sentence and she got to stay out way too long.

[@krime1988]

Can you explain this a bit further? Did someone kill themselves after losing money?

[@Leanne-mw8nm]

​@Azur Sham What does being white have to do this situation?

[@robertbraden4454]

@@krime1988 I don't know if anyone died, but her scam blood tests were used to incorrectly diagnose real patients.

[@Mary-hs3gu]

@@krime1988 It’s been awhile since I’ve read Bad Blood by John Carreyrou but my recollection is that a former employee committed suicide and at least one woman died because of incorrect blood testing results.

[@mouseketeery]

@@krime1988 People were given incorrect blood work results. Some thought they were terminally ill when they weren't, some thought they were fine when they weren't.

[@zenawarrior7442]

Must be wonderful to go thru life as a grandiose narcissist. You're wonderful, no worries, everyone else wrong🙄😬Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊❤🤍

[@darlalathan6143]

Actually, their power fantasies cover up low self-esteem, from child abuse/neglect and parental favoritism by narcissistic or antisocial parents.

[@johnnyearp52]

The prison part might not be too wonderful.

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

​@@johnnyearp52 I think she means the life a typical narcissist lives, in terms of the skewed perception of reality they have playing out inside their heads. Just they're oblivious to there being anything amiss. Imagine truly believing you are always the smartest, most clever, most talented, most important and most desirable person in the room in any given situation. The confidence! The satisfaction! The pride and ego! Honestly believing you've never been the one in the wrong, the cause of any fight or break up, and easily dismissing criticism as jealousy - never getting your feelings hurt or knowing the ache of being discouraged. It's ridiculous, of course, to think this way. But fair or not, the fact is that perception is reality. WE see these jackasses for what they are. Which usually is an insufferable, delusional, loud person with, at best, zero depth, and at worst, a complete lack of empathy that leads to remorseless harm repeatedly inflicted on everyone around them. WE see that. But to THEM? They're amazing! Life's beautiful! Everyone else WISHES they could be like them! I got on a real tangent there, OMG. (My Vyvanse just kicked in, lol 😂😂) Anyway I think my original response was going to be to point out that most narcissists, despite wreaking enough havoc and hurting enough people to deserve a bit of time in prison, make it through life without the kind of epic screw up it takes to get yourself a decade+ in federal prison.

[@zenawarrior7442]

@@MeganVictoriaKearns Haha good rant, made total sense. You got my sarcasm too

[@haleytruslow7200]

I have someone in my life like this. She knows exactly what to say to get anyone on her side, no matter how horrible her actions. The fact that she came across as gentle and charismatic does not surprise me at all. The narcissist in my life comes across the same way, but I know her very well and I know that nothing she says is “authentic” although she loves to use that word

[@caymanchristopher7014]

Good luck. There are only two people in a toxic narcissist’s life. Flying monkey and enemy.

[@hiddendragon415]

Some years after a narcissist nearly destroyed my life, she called me and as soon as I realized who it was I hanged up. The disgust in my voice I conveyed left me satisfied to this day.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@hiddendragon415 The one who tried to ruin my life has stayed away. It's sad because I saw her fight the thing, but the thing won out. The one who tried to ruin my life went through the courts and court-ordered mental health rehabilitation, however, so maybe that helped her to fight the thing again.

[@kerstinklenovsky239]

Many people finally saw through Elizabeth Holmes after she strategically decided to 'fall' pregnant twice to manipulate the courtcase. What a horrible person she is! 🤮

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Definitely planned IVF. These weren’t ‘accidental’ pregnancies.

[@HelennaRose]

Dark Triad: Narcissism, Psychopathy, and Machivellianism. Thank you. I literally learn new things every day from your educational videos.

[@marianhunt8899]

Unfortunately many of our so called Leaders have this personality.

[@user-fu1nw7kh2h]

Another trait has been added to the dark tirade -Sadism …

[@barneyronnie]

Bondage & Discipline😮

[@iciajay6891]

​@@marianhunt8899it's built to prefer this. As it clearly rewards them. Capatalism is itself narsasism personified.

[@jimp9151]

@@iciajay6891 What a stupid thing to say. It is NO SUCH THING. I HATE you Communists. Go away. If anyone is Narcissistic, it's the utopian idiocy of socialism/communism.

[@theresa1305]

Boy, I feel for her children.

[@asha8000]

They will be ok for the most part. I would imagine that the dad is as close as possible as he can be. Maybe they are better off without her for their formative years

[@kingslob3422]

They were only brought into this world to delay her sentence. She is pure evil, it's literally all over her weird evil face with wide psycho demon eyes.

[@southhour5241]

The hell spawn?

[@Chris-0113]

​@@asha8000 You should talk to some children of sociopaths. Many of them are anything but "fine".

[@timleelim9930]

"Your mama had you just to stay out of the slammer", and other teases, if the kids know who they are and this is still news by then. As cushy and rich as they may be, this can't but mess them up inside

[@virglyd]

I think it's interesting to see who the media tries to rehabilitate and who they choose to demonize

[@erinthesystem9608]

The part about being "forced" to wear Steve Jobs's signature black turtleneck was ludicrous. I know that abusers do sometimes try to control the way their partners dress, but a black turtleneck is an unusually specific demand.

[@toddmansilver12]

classic narcissist behavior except she's too public to pack up and leave to start a new web of lies so she plays victim in a desperate bid to salvage her image and business viability. Notice that no matter what, she won't even admit to the least of the things she's accused of, instead opting to place blame anywhere else.

[@MauiMauiMe]

The sickest part is that she had kids! They are just pawns in her game.

[@toddmansilver12]

@@MauiMauiMe the best thing she could do for those kids is exit their lives now before they get attached.

[@EZxFi91]

She had her kids as a response to the criminals charges, it's all part of her hilariously obvious game. Some sociopaths are so delusional it's hilarious to us normal individuals.

[@LD10000]

Thank you Dr. Grande for the update and the analysis. I hope her "character" and Elizabeth can start her prison sentence soon.

[@nerd26373]

We appreciate Dr Grande's dedication and hard work. God bless him.

[@francesburger129]

I've been a victim of a scam artist and was ashamed to admit that I missed her after she was out of my life.

[@coweatsman]

Imagine her children growing up knowing that they were conceived only to save Mummy's arse.

[@Marg205]

They will be proud, feel like heroes. Especially when they hear her side of it.

[@BrillGirl82]

@@Marg205 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

[@hydrohasspoken6227]

No worries. Liz will explain them her version.

[@blueknight1109]

Never trust her, no matter what she says or does.

[@lisabenson]

This analysis is excellent. The conflicting fraudulent persona of Elizabeth Holmes is disgusting. I am surprised she is able to delay serving time “based on a pending appeal.” Many convicts cannot delay their sentences based on a pending appeal. Rather the appeal is usually sought concurrent with prison time. The discussion of Holmes’ manipulative behavior is very insightful.

[@NYCZ31]

It’s a Ninth Circuit rule that sentences are automatically stayed pending appeal. However, staying out, now she will get no credit for time served while the appeal winds its way through.

[@lisabenson]

@@NYCZ31 Thanks I wasn’t familiar with Ninth Circuit rules. Very informative.

[@lornarettig3215]

Good news - it didn’t work! She’s out of rich-people options and has to go to prison by end of May!

[@roximusmaximus195]

I'm from the UK and although I'd heard about EH, I'd never taken a deep dive into the case. I remember feeling sorry for her last week, thinking how traumatized she's gonna be when she's taken away from her babies - one is literally a newborn..- but then I watched a documentary about her last night and wtf.. 11 years isn't enough. She's lucky they didn't life her off. What she did was so fucked up,scary and irresponsible,and she should rightly pay for her crimes. Yes it's not her kids fault,they didn't ask to be born. It's HER fault for thinking "if I have kids people might feel sorry for me and keep my ass outta jail".. a truly devious woman.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Her power of manipulation is scary! Thank you so much for covering this, I really appreciate your opinions.❤

[@ChristopherSaindon]

The idea of her in ANY prison is great. She is a dangerous sociopath!!

[@_Kittensworth]

I think her husband is a victim of her deception, but he also seems attracted to the relationship because he wants to annoy his parents. He goes to Burning Man and portrays himself as rebellious. Since prison is inevitable for her, he knows it's a temporary commitment.

[@SirenaSpades]

It's not temporary, he has kids with her.

[@ALT-vz3jn]

I’ve read that he’s not the brightest bulb in the box… I agree with you that he probably did this to annoy his parents. It makes a lot of sense. He’s never done much of worth in his career or philanthropy or anything, he just lives off his parents’ money.

[@kaypeany5141]

Right, and maybe wanting to raise his profile. His parents should cut him off.

[@swright4000]

Dr. Grande has come a long long way with Elizabeth Holmes. He is right on target.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

Her eyes combine the qualities of those of a doll on a shelf and the dull gaze of a fish distractedly cruising for opportunity: just glazed membranes covering a detached, unfeeling attention.

[@JessicaPradoHanson]

What a poetic way to describe how creepy she is. 🔥

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@JessicaPradoHanson 👍From Silicon Valley to Uncanny valley …

[@zannigan222]

True. I've seen pictures of sharks with more emotion in their eyes.

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@zannigan222 I’ve met sharks up close and in person who came across buoyantly congenial by comparison.

[@farmcat3198]

The author of that article had a powerful realization, summarized in the last three paragraphs. "...If you are in her presence, it is impossible not to believe her, not to be taken with her and be taken in by her. Liz Holmes and Billy Evans know that. I politely declined their invitation."

[@jaywu2856]

people who found it possible to not believe her: The prosecutors, the judge, the deputies and virtually every other journalist except Amy Chozick LOL

[@barfymann362]

Having Elizabeth Holmes staring through the screen really added the shock value here.

[@Will-Parr]

She believes that she can change the world but says her every move was controlled by Balwani. Excellent analysis Dr Grande.

[@shellyseymore6249]

"Elizabeth's not a hero nor a villain, but somewhere in-between" 🙄😒 Sorry NO, she's a villain actually.

[@NotChefCook]

ABSOLUTELY .

[@kurttrue]

Yeah, what does that even mean? That's one of those lines I read and I say "How did this person get a job writing for the NYT?" I would expect more coherent thought from a college freshman.

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Agreed. That reporter is crazy and I question her ethics.

[@LBdreamin]

Holmes proves that untreated mental illness can land you in court, but can also make you wealthy.

[@bthomson]

Too bad the court part came last and ruined that last part!

[@shawnnewell4541]

Trump was years ahead of her and better at it. After all, he's trying to run for a 2nd term as President of the United States. He has only been convicted of one of several charges and no prison time so far.

[@JessicaPradoHanson]

@@shawnnewell4541 but trumps dad was just better at not getting caught. Elizabeth’s dad was a vp at Enron so he just isn’t as good of a criminal family. He probably is like her and pretends to be great without actually doing the work to be great. Trumps dad and grandfather were really the smart ones. It was a trump that started that series of gold rushes around the nation where they made more money selling shovels than anyone made from gold in many areas. They have been grifters harming people in the USA for far too long and the kids won’t stop. They don’t know how to be better.

[@berkslaw]

Ah, the "SUCK-cessful".

[@KoolT]

Yep

[@jackiegrice714]

I guess this proves that some people never quit-and other people never learn. Thanks Dr. Grande.

[@TheSuperPsychoKiller]

Could you imagine being her cellmate. Watching her doodling in her notebooks of fantasy inventions.

[@brittanywilcox7377]

Her stare is always so intense like wtf

[@kge420]

Like our French Bulldog. Once you look him in the eyes you’re finished.

[@Aashka_The_Mystic]

Elizabeth is a narcissist, they can be very good at tricking and manipulating people. Elizabeth is just trying to use a facade of being a "good person because she volunteers".

[@Menstral]

Schrödinger’s Feminist A woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered, until something happens. Then she chooses which state benefits her the most…

[@dcnative1618]

I think the writer understood the manipulation but was marveling at how convincing she could be. Liz can change up her persona frequently but she will always have those crazy eyes.

[@TheSelfCenter]

I heard of this lady 😅 I personally like to watch these videos to remind myself that I'm pretty alright and at least mentally healthy, lol.

[@backonmybs7790]

LMAO!!! you imagine her working on her legal defense took more stretching than the yoga did 😂 thats clever asf

[@phototristan]

I can't believe she is not having to show up for jail yet.

[@nueziger2691]

Two thumbs up! Dr. Todd, this was the best I have seen from you so far. I am looking forward to more of your analyses.

[@steverl22]

Notice how the #2 MAN is already locked up and doing time...🤔 While the #1 GIRL BOSS is out and about lying and being free 🤫

[@Ad-Lo]

The ‘stretching to create a legal defence doing more than yoga’ comment made me spit out my tea! 😂

[@iluvj50]

Holmes Is Where The Change Of Heart Is.

[@jeaninepippin3685]

I enjoyed this as always. I have never heard you go into such depth with someone like you did. You hit the nail on the head! Good job Dr Grande!! ❤👍

[@nuggets702]

Slipping in the deadpan humor amidst the monotone delivery is magnificent. I want more - subscribing.

[@rocb5473]

She is so puffed up over herself as far as to believe people would actually want to hear any ideas she has with regard to contributing to the health care industry in the future. I am so glad she got prison time. I do feel very bad for her children. What a burden now they have to grow up with. 😢

[@nickybrown8845]

Great once again, Todd, and Thanx 👍👍👍 - Nicky

[@MattCurrieImprov]

This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels on YT

[@louisal7185]

"Cell- made millionaire" ( not self made) 🤩😆😻 No guys, you can not compare Dr. Grande with anyone. He's unique ✌️Bravo, Docteur, comme toujours, et bonne courage! 👍👏👏

[@o0o-jd-o0o95]

Almost no one is going to do an interview with a reporter and get on there and say "Yep I totally screwed these people out of money. I meant to screw them the whole time and I knew I was screwing them as I did it"

[@ashleypeverett4833]

Great analysis. Love the new background

[@beaulieuc8910]

Agreed. She will manipulate the law/judges to suit her. She doesn't think she deserves to go jail.

[@charlesiragui2473]

She is exceptionally gifted at scamming and manipulation. She could easily have used these skills in legal ways and become wealthy. Clearly she would have made a very good salesperson of practically anything. If, for instance, she'd gone to Wall Street, she would have been protected from her own bad character by the myriad of regulations and controls, which channel these instincts into legal interactions (though not necessarily profitable ones for the client). Maybe she didn't know this. Or maybe she was just too greedy and wanted to make far more money than just affluence/wealth.

[@beckydoesit9331]

Well, sometimes scammers have the best ideas that change the world. Holmes left to her own ambitions would have produced so many life saving devices in the medical field by now. Not only is she a victim in this entanglement, but the world is no better off without Theranos. Her investors did fine. And so did the people that benefited from her stuff. Its stupid how f--ed up this played out to be and I'm sure many more to come. Catch more live at 10:00.

[@charlesiragui2473]

@@beckydoesit9331 How can I invest in your new company?

[@steveptasznik6147]

@becky doesit You left out the "h" after the "s" in doesit.

[@pageribe2399]

She wanted to wear a white lab coat

[@RAJOHN-ke7mc]

@@beckydoesit9331 how is she a victim?

[@farmcat3198]

This was an important video and your analysis is spot on. Although you try to leaven the subject with some comedy, you bring up several important contrasts about her shapeshifting image and character that many would overlook. It seems that Elizabeth, Liz, or whatever she wants to be called, is the real life embodiment of the mythological Siren. The author deserves a lot of credit for recognizing and ignoring her song.

[@bthomson]

Yes but that song really did injure people!

[@guydreamr]

Not entirely, the reporter was in fact partially captivated by Holmes, even though she was aware of her past chicanery - characterizing Elizabeth as somewhere in between a good person and a villain, when in reality the journalist was just being manipulated and deceived anew by "Liz," just as she did with her previous victims as Elizabeth Holmes.

[@leannemo7382]

Even though the reporter was shrewd enough to pass on the invitation, she didn’t entirely ignore Holmes’ song. As others have noted, she was left humming the tune just a bit. 😏 It’s quite understandable why a person like Elizabeth Holmes is often referred to as a *master manipulator.*

[@Ebenezer456]

Thanks Dr Grande. That was an excellent synopsis. Awesome content as usual!

[@NA-tf2hg]

She reminds me of another case that recently hit the headlines. I think you could also look into the story of Charlie Javice… it’s interesting to see how so many of Forbes’ 30 under 30 are being exposed for fraudulent crimes. Love your videos!! Keep up the great work😊

[@bruceharkness4497]

Forbes certainly seems to promote evil.

[@AB-un4io]

I’m not one to pick on physical features. After all, we get what we get. But her eyes really leave me unsettled. There’s just nothing there. Her behavior is incredibly wrong and very frightening. Thanks, Dr. Grande, for the analysis. 🙂

[@tonyhill8300]

i THINK SHES A HOT HOT HOTTIE !!

[@ALT-vz3jn]

Yep. She has those empty psychopathic eyes.

[@potatolover5436]

She has the crazy eyes

[@klunker289]

I would bust immediately

[@farmcat3198]

She looks like Wendi Adelson.

[@MetaModern-df6he]

Damn, you really up the production value. Love to see that you’ve broken 1 million subscribers well deserved.

[@AztecronEntertainment]

Thank you Dr. Always with you

[@abbinormal11]

Great analysis. Her professor at harvard who is also a Dr and a scientist said she thinks Elizabeth has multiple personalities and Liz believes the lies she tells herself. Liz harassed and mocked the grieving widow of a employee who killed himself after Theranos being a scam. I have this feeling she's going to run away and never be caught.

[@senorwonderful]

Holmes went to Stanford, Not Harvard.

[@abbinormal11]

@@senorwonderful sorry I get them mixed up

[@Comegetyourdose131]

Dissociative identity disorder “DID” (aka - multiple personality disorder) is a very specific thing. Nothing I’ve come across about Eliz is concerning for DID?

[@anitat9727]

Highly doubt she believes that lies. Multiple personalities disorder doesn't fraud millions

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@Comegetyourdose131 I doubt her professor could diagnose DID

[@tru2thastyle]

I literally believe nothing Elizabeth says. NOTHING!!

[@chrisjpn3151]

The subdued lighting and dark backdrop work well - set looking looking good Dr.Grande!

[@MaryRose-kr9bl]

Stumbled across your page today, it's an absolute jewel. I'm addicted.

[@Big_Tex]

How messed up is this William Evans guy that he’d hook up with Holmes? She just gonna steal all his money.

[@briananderson8428]

He's likely a sociopath, too.

[@bohenriksson2330]

She enriched herself and her GIANT ego and endangered many people- if not killed a few…. She needs to be put away for a very long time!

[@ALT-vz3jn]

She actually did not enrich herself. She’s penniless now, and she and her husband live off on her husband’s family’s wealth. From what I’ve read her husband isn’t the brightest bulb in the box and hasn’t managed to distinguish himself at all in his ‘career’; indeed they were very vague when the reporter asked what her husband did for a living. Many psychopaths/sociopaths manipulate people in order to set themselves up in a situation like this one, where someone else pays for their living expenses while they’re busy being grandiose. Apparently she was very busy interacting with Silicon Valley’s high society and attending all kinds of parties and social gatherings until she found the perfect mark in Billy Evans.

[@Yladni]

Thank you so much for your analysis, Dr. Grande. This is my favorite one so far.

[@SopwithTheCamel]

Outstanding video Dr Grande.

[@angelicearthling]

I always look forward to your videos!

[@surajrajwani8773]

I think working on her legal defence involved more stretching than yoga. Totally banger 🎉

[@azulgaia7782]

Thank you for this update with an exCellent analysis.

[@powerboon2k]

I really appreciate your soothing tone of voice.

[@aaronchapin9331]

"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies..."

[@Elhastezy888]

Absolutely Fascinating. I had no idea, Doc always covering varied & interesting topics/people.

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Always interesting. Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲

[@maryaswell9943]

Honestly you have such a great dry sense of humour. You’re hilarious

[@beaulieuc8910]

hehe

[@Xbox360mIRC]

I still remember so many people saying how her voice was real and that they are women or know women with deep voices. Like they can't differentiate between an obvious fake voice and a real one. Saw a bunch of comments saying that saying that was sexist way back before she got discovered as a fraud.

[@MeatCatCheesyBlaster]

She's a disservice to women everywhere

[@ALT-vz3jn]

There were just as many people saying her voice was fake and creepy, in college she didn’t use the fake voice so they knew it was a weird act.

[@Xbox360mIRC]

@@ALT-vz3jn Yeah I'm surprised even 10 people in the world above 12 years old believed it was her real voice. Yeah a lot mentioned it and more often as years went by but many of the comments from 5-7 years ago massive thumbs up and responses seemed less often.

[@manewland1]

Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande!

[@LisaMarie-rh5yn]

Boy, did you hit the nail on the head on this one, Dr. Todd. Thanks for so clearly explaining what I knew on a gut level but didn't have the skill set to articulate. INCREDIBLE.

[@helpyourcattodrive]

Very interesting and informative. Thank you.