Mechatronic Failure On The Polo 6c GTI | DQ200 Common Gearbox Faults |

[@jaredwaynemarrimuthu2868]

Mine is a 2016 model with 101000 km currently. I bought the vehicle last year August with 94000km. Also has a full service history. I own this vehicle for almost a year now and I've had the following issues: Water pump thermostat housing leak first . Complete water pump was replaced. Oil cooler leak. Replaced whilst doing the water pump. Radiator leak a few months back. Personally i believe if you want to own a second hand gti, you must have a mechanical warranty in place. These cars are also not cheap to maintain. Major service due in September and the parts alone are 4k. The only thing i disliked about the polo 6c gti is the hard suspension. I installed a set of eibach prokit springs and the ride and handling improved drastically.

[@embakubmotoring]

Damn that's quite a list of issues... I agree, the suspension is really hard.

[@thobanimanzi]

Thank you for a nice breakdown of issues and/or ownership costs🙏. What's your feul consumption, how many kilometres do you get per full tank?

[@jaredwaynemarrimuthu2868]

@@thobanimanzi Bro i live close to work. 16km return trip. So i fill like 250 a week lol

[@thobanimanzi]

@@jaredwaynemarrimuthu2868 good for you bro.. My return is roughly 80 km, of which 8 km is township driving with stops and around 25 speed humps then tge rest is freeway driving.

[@juliuskona3299]

@@embakubmotoring Hi Emba, my golf 6 dsg has a shuddering effect when getting into gear 2 after the car has warmed up. other gears are okay. This causes it to shake for less than a second. this only happens when the car has warmed up and usually worse when im carry a heavy load. Do you think it is the clutch? It has never thrown any transmission light.

[@prano550]

if you love VW,AUDI stay away from DSG rather get a manual unless if you can't drive a manual or you are loaded with cash for repairs after warranty even buying a motor plan won't fully cover the DSG repairs you still have to cough up a bit more to add with the motor plan DSG repairs no thank you had my fair share of this problem sold the car after the repair .

[@melvinpako2581]

After the lockdowns and how some of us dont have money. We would appreciate a kwid or celerio or picanto or datsun reviews

[@Asdasty]

I'm so glad you made this video man. People need to hear this. Had two friends that had this failure on Audi 1.4 tfsi and 1.8 tfsi. Is this polo in the video yours?

[@embakubmotoring]

For sure, it's a friend's car...

[@MilesLambos-ef1nt]

I'll always say this, this car is overpriced and it comes with lots of problems, someone once argued with me saying its not overpriced ,only stupid people would buy this car blindly. Many people cry coz of this car

[@siyabongakhumalo6841]

Yes very overpriced

[@lucienpetrus3851]

What about just a plain old school manuel gearbox not this hi tec pricey shit gearboxes

[@mrgovernment8155]

What about the 2015 - 2017 golf 7 gti? Do they also have the same issues, let's say I can get one with 80k km,will I have a piece of mind before the car reaches 150k km or?That's also including regular service and fixing the small issues,not these big engine issues 😭

[@GudisNyc]

Very true 100000000% im glad someone know this this car is only good when it’s Kilos are 20000 km less which you’ll never find it that low

[@GudisNyc]

@@lucienpetrus3851not going to be fun these cars are nice with automatic only

[@KREYO_ZA]

I’ve got a car with this gearbox, I haven’t had any complaints with this box to be honest. I’ve found that it drives smoother than my DQ250 diesel car (I’ve also driven a DQ250 petrol a brand new Q3) and I’ve found my DSG7 to have better up and down shifts as well as faster changes. My honest opinion is that these transmissions fail 90% of the time due to human error and lack of knowledge or care for that fact… people can’t blame the transmission when they using their gas pedal to keep the car stationary especially on uphills then cry about needing new clutches and mech unit because it’s toasted itself on a car with less than 20k km. These gearboxs have dry clutches to reduce the weight and resistance to allow for better smoother and faster operation of a auto transmission on a lower powered platform that’s the only reason it’s a dry clutch it’s also not a first of its kind dry clutches are used in many shapes and forms and applications including high performance the biggest issue that causes these to fail is HEAT and stupidity. Dragging your clutch wears it out 100x faster than normal as-well as produces double the amount of heat the gearbox can tolerate not only that but when in traffic in any dual clutch transmission. You must not keep this causes the clutch to slip as-well as to have it constantly flicking between 1-2 you can expect it to have a shorter life if this is your driving style and to also mention the mech unit housed separately these boxes have 3 chambers mech unit gear unit and clutch unit the mech unit used mineral oil and what happens is when this oil begins to overheat it looses its viscosity which is the same effect of replacing hydraulic fluid in a car jack with water. It still functions but won’t be able to lift anything. I’ve found that this gearbox receives more hate than recognition If people understand how to drive a dual clutch properly they’ll see 100s of thousands of KM problem free if regular maintenance is done aswell. That’s just my two cents on these boxes and why they tend to fail with people last forever with others. TVS engineering has kits and tunes for these boxes to make them absolute gems for those who want to keep their car for long and have this gearbox. Go for TVS and install a Stage 2+ TCU tune it fixes all the factory issues with the software that leads to mech failure and improper clutch pressures and more.

[@ΑχιλλεαςΞανθοπουλος-ρ8δ]

Also with the stage 2+ can you raise the torque? Cause it’s limited at 250nm! Or you must add Kevlar clutch?

[@bandile_sisonke]

Thanks brother! I have this car and no issues at all. People just don’t know how to drive these dry clutches! People abuse them to bits, tune them above the 250Nm and expect them to last!

[@moffatk7948]

Change the DSG fluid as frequently as required by the manufacturer. Only buy oil from dealers no cheap alternatives. Not cheap about R550/L and you need 3L.

[@kgomotsosilas4022]

This gti and the 7 are my dream cars. After doing research and watching your videos I think the dream its over. I don't think it'll be financially healthy for me to just take out 45 grand to just fix a car part. Now ways. Even if i have enough money I'll never buy a gti. Thanks for the information man much appreciated 🙏

[@cameronfredericks1145]

Buy a manual.I have a 7 manual and could not be happier

[@tshfhiwandondeni1057]

Honestly you shouldn’t be , if it’s your dream car go for it my advice is take out an extended warranty and or service plan also insurance is very important by alms and they have issue but it’s a great platform to have just be weary of their issue

[@tshfhiwandondeni1057]

If you do get one first thing major service and a gearbox check trust me if you get it from a dealer and you find out that it has a faulty gearbox you can return it to them or have them cover the cost Also mahn just taking care of it it’s sensitive

[@embakubmotoring]

You're welcome 🙏

[@domino6434]

Nah just do regular maintenance. Thats what this guy didnt do

[@crig9758]

I replaced the mechatronics twice on my polo 1.4 gti (2014) second time after fixing I Sold it very fast & never regret it I actually done myself a big favour

[@embakubmotoring]

Damn twice? That's Insane

[@GTInick]

Was it difficult to replace, I’m gonna have to replace mine. Just waiting for the parts

[@domino6434]

Its not the car its you bro

[@swooshots3039]

@@domino6434 I also did mechatronics twice clearly there’s a big problem with them, that’s why this video was made.

[@domino6434]

@@swooshots3039 clearly you are not taking good care of your car

[@yashmore7572]

Does tuning increase or decrease the mechatronic failure chances…….I have a DQ200 with stage 2 tuned TCU

[@embakubmotoring]

If not done properly it'll most like increase the chances, it all depends on what's done on the car and how it's done...

[@thobanimanzi]

Can I also ask for your opinion here; Mina I'm really stuck between older gen polo gti around 2020 model, brand new polo life dsg with more features, a demo polo r line with very few or no features at all or a one year old R line with many features. My budget is around R400k and I have around R100k deposit. But I'm planning to just wait until December just to see if anything changes in the automotive industry especially for used cars and to try and accumulate as much deposit as I can. What would be your suggestion?

[@embakubmotoring]

I’d say the better choice is a 2020 GTI, it’s still modern enough plus the added performance

[@thobanimanzi]

@@embakubmotoring thank you for taking your time to read and reply to my comment. Can you or your friends recommend a few best aftermarket warranty companies that would adequately cover major failures such as the dsg gearbox, mechatronics and engine?

[@embakubmotoring]

@@thobanimanziI’ve never really looked into those so I can’t say I’m the best person to make the right recommendations, but my suggestion would be, search up some on the internet, make comparisons, and also ask other motorists who have purchased these warranties so you know if there are any red or green flags, and then make your decision based on what you’ve found, and your budget…

[@embakubmotoring]

@@thobanimanziyou’re welcome, also the only thing you’re missing out on would be the matrix “IQ” LED lights, which you can do without…they definitely look cool and they can do some clever stuff, but the LEDs on the 2020 car are just as good in terms of visibility… Value for money wise the 2020 GTI is the best, you will not regret missing out on the 2023 R-line or Life…plus it’s more reliable than both the old 6c GTI, and possibly the new AW facelift, so it’s the sweet spot really, I have a review coming up on that shortly I’ll add some of my thoughts in the video…

[@thobanimanzi]

@@embakubmotoring thank you for your thought bro, the gti is my favorite as well as I can't get my head around buying a 1.0 engine for R400k! I had a 2019 gti for only 3 months and I enjoyed every time I drove it. I will see maybe at the end of the year as to what happens on the used car market maybe I can even get a 2021 model if I'm lucky.

[@bohlalemaphosa454]

Your explanation is well articulated. My question is, do you do the repairs of these mechatronics? I see that your car is registered in Limpopo. So am I. I have a gearbox problem, I thought you could help.

[@embakubmotoring]

I don't do the repairs but I know guys who do

[@thobanimanzi]

This a very nice but issue it suffers are very scarry for my liking. Only if it had a normal torque converter auto. Can anyone recommend aftermarket warranties that over the best cover for engine and gearbox failures? As this is a must when buying today's VW cars that most of us like.

[@tania5993]

Hi Emba, I have a 2014 vw Polo. I had a error gearbox appear on my screen. Car would not give us gears 1,3,5 & 7 (all the odd gears). Diagnostic report gave codes P176C as gear monitoring: 3. Gear no regulation Sporadic fault. I had 2 seperate diagnostics done by different mechanics. Went to VW and they said it had nothing to do with the Mechatronics unit but rather that I need to replace my clutch and flywheel. My question is why does the error reset if I switch off car and restart engine and then all gears are available again and then it would sometimes do it again and sometimes not. The mechanics who did the diagnostics do not believe that replacing the clutch and flywheel will resolve the issue as it seems to be an electronic issue rather than a mechanical (Clutch) one.

[@embakubmotoring]

From what I’m picking up it might just be an electronic error, probably has to do with a sensor or regulator, hense it resets when you turn the car on and off again… It’s very important to carry out as many diagnostics as possible to help pinpoint the exact issue, to avoid over spending or replacing the wrong part…

[@frederickmarco1536]

Themba May you kindly make a review on the 2023 polo vivo gt...please

[@frederickmarco1536]

By the way, is this megatronic problem faced by the polo 6c gti or also the polo tsi with dsg of that time?

[@TheBigMenace]

@@frederickmarco1536 please

[@embakubmotoring]

I’ll do so

[@moffatk7948]

I thought manual clutches we cheap until I needed to replace the TDI. Its about R21000 including the expensive dual mass flywheel and a must to do with clutch, this is parts only cost from Dealerships. Maybe can be around R10000 at the likes of GW. Ai cars nowadays are expensive to maintain and repair. No wonder some people don't keep these any longer than the warranty period.

[@H.I.I.T68]

How old is this car and what is the mileage? And those costs are they from VW or someone who specialises in DSG boxes?

[@embakubmotoring]

2016 car, 108k km, yes it’s from VW…

[@H.I.I.T68]

@@embakubmotoring I'm assuming that the car is not on a maintenance plan since you didn't mention it so perhaps then it's a good idea to go to a DSG specialist for a 2nd opinion and maybe a lower cost. Just a thought...

[@embakubmotoring]

@@H.I.I.T68 yeah it isn’t under plan, I’ll look into those🙏🏽

[@marinm3069]

I am thinking buying Skoda Octavia 1.6 TDI dsq 7 speed ..do they have same problem?

[@miyelanimashaba1324]

Nice car to drive but if you buying one get maintenance plan, i dive the pre face lift AW polo gti and i have had to replace the water pump, intake manifold and the gearbox. Its not cheap, extend or get aftermarket warranty

[@Ta_Lux]

Guys if your Audi/vw have a mechatronic failure don't drive it otherwise you'll cause unnecessary damage inside the gearbox, my 2015 Audi A3 had this problem last year (224000km) and If I didn't drive it the mechatronic was the only thing that was supposed to be replaced but because I didn't leave it the mechatronic, flywheel and clutch plates got ruined which added to the cost so don't drive it just tow it to the dealership

[@embakubmotoring]

Good point

[@phetso9744]

Hey Kub, I had a mechatronic failure on my polo tsi and replaced it. After am experiencing leaks where the unit meets the gearbox. I took the car back to the garage but seems like they are failing with fixing the leaking issue. what could be the problem?

[@embakubmotoring]

Sorry for the late reply, maybe it’s an issue with the solenoids? But they should be able to figure it out, how do they expect you to figure it out, push for your car to be fixed properly, that’s bad service from them…

[@ronaldsmith7972]

Heita Phetso. What sort of problems did you have on your Polo TSI, if you don't mind me asking. I drive the same car and I think my mechatronic is failing. The car jerks back and forth when accelerating harder or accelerating from stop.

[@monthatithatii8056]

Quick question Emba, is it safe to buy a 2017 golf R dsg. If so what are the things one should lookout for including the dsg gearbox.

[@embakubmotoring]

The Golf R should be a safe buy because it has the more durable 7 speed wet sump gearbox, but if not well taken care of it can still have mechatronic issues or clutch wear and tear given how some people drive these cars… Also earlier Golf Rs like 2014/15 often have Haldex pump failure, that’s the hydraulic system that helps send power to the rear wheels to make it 4WD, how you notice this problem is, the car will start having wheel spin on the front wheels and flickering the traction light, Because power will only go to the front when the Haldex pump is faulty, so drive the car, do launch control to insure that it still hooks on all 4 wheels…

[@diphatsepaulus4970]

Don't buy it😅

[@TebogoSawi-lk7kb]

Hey kub , I have 2013 polo gti dsg, When I start , it just writes “check safelock “ and It doesn’t start. Can it be mechatronic or something else?

[@embakubmotoring]

It’s probably something else… Mechatronic issues generally affect how the car drives and harsh gear changes…

[@metehanyilmaz9716]

I have a golf 6 1.4 tsi and my gearbox is working fine thank god.

[@embakubmotoring]

Thank goodness 🙏🏽

[@neoboke465]

Does the newer version of polo gti have the same Mechatronic failure

[@embakubmotoring]

Not as such, but it has water pump issues

[@CHALKSA]

Bro is it advisable to buy a pre owned 216/2017 1.2 Polo TSI ?

[@embakubmotoring]

They also have similar issues

[@CHALKSA]

@@embakubmotoring So in other words, a manual one would be a safer bet compared to the dsg one?

[@JPGOLF6AIR]

I have a Golf 6 GTI and mine also does that. Whenever I go into reverse after a drive the P light flashes on the dashboard and revs up before kicking in to reverse. That 50k will definitely slap hard😰

[@embakubmotoring]

Definitely an issue with the reverse selector or mechatronic, maybe both 😬

[@kabelomphahlele5618]

I have a 6R and it had a megatronic failure. Literally parked and when i was trying to start it kept thinking its on D. 40k replacements from VW 😢😢

[@embakubmotoring]

Yikes, sorry about that🙏🏽

[@mzwandilethandanani1015]

I am facing this issue right now with my polo6 r line it is not starting at all, it doesn't even turn the starter at all. I took the starter out and tested it and it works perfectly i then called both my mechanics they saaaaid it mechatronics called vw for a price of it 44000 something rands

[@embakubmotoring]

It's never a nice thing to experience, but sadly these issues are real.

[@ELIJAH.MAK.]

Here is why VW cars are not cheap to buy or Maintain: VW Group. Lets go for the DSG straight and analyse it. 1.DSG was developed by BUGATTI(Bugatti is owned by VW group) engineers in the early 2000s.(Hold it there) 2.It is a very efficient and strong type of gear box. In simple terms, two manual gearboxes combined and controlled by a computer(Automatically). 3.’Germans being Germans’ decided to put ‘cheap’ variants of those DSG in VW,SKODA and SEAT(The Volume car brands in group). 4. VWs are ‘cheap’ versions of Audi and Bentley, which also use DSG(Expensive ones). 5. The point here is: They (tried) to make the DSG cheap.

[@robbenstein]

Interesting!

[@khathulation]

Check out Muzi Sambo and Khathu On Cars they really brake down the problems that comes with VW GTI, even the recent models have major problems but SA are so loyal to VW they dont care they just buy and cry later

[@embakubmotoring]

I'm aware👌

[@benjik9922]

How much is R50,000 in USD?

[@embakubmotoring]

Just under $2800

[@rorisangsetshedi291]

This is why I hate automatic

[@diphatsepaulus4970]

My car is stuck in gear 1 doesn't drive any more😢😢😢

[@embakubmotoring]

Very unfortunate hey

[@allthingsmusic5981]

Please tell us which companies sell or repair mechatronic properly and not scammers.

[@embakubmotoring]

You can look up some on KZbin

[@brotherabid]

The people who buy these cars dont know much about cars, they just like the looks and because they are smooth, but they come at a cost, stick with japanese

[@xhvunmsholozi8980]

I was going to buy my 1st gti 6c with 289k now am feeling discouraged 😞 😕 😪 💔

[@embakubmotoring]

Just be aware that you might face some issues unfortunately

[@miyelanimashaba1324]

I would recommend you get the AW polo gti and extend warranty. Currently waiting for my new gearbox

[@xhvunmsholozi8980]

@miyelanimashaba1324 what happened to the previous gearbox on which car was it fitted ?

[@miyelanimashaba1324]

@@xhvunmsholozi8980 vw took the gearbox. Its a 2020 polo gti

[@HarveyPowskey-v8e]

Tabitha Lodge

[@UtgfmbgjbkjvgdyfEtdgdgijgkvjvy]

5948 Timmy Well

[@banelemkhonta1846]

My mechatronic finally gave up today. Mileage 223000 km

[@embakubmotoring]

Rest In Peace, I hope it won’t be much of a pain to fix🙏🏽

[@Jenito120]

It went very far...failing at that milaege, i d be very happy...in many cases it fails earlier with less than 100.000km

[@ventodanny]

DQ250 IS STRONGER

[@embakubmotoring]

Definitely

[@goodwillmiya9413]

DQ250 can take the heat

[@AR-fw5bn]

Put a DQ500 in this car. The RS3 has it

[@bongievansshongwe3965]

The only vw that is good is a manual polo vivo. Others problems after problems

[@2621270]

I have a audi Q5 2016 7spd stronic. Rubbish gearbox nonstop issues. I dont trust and dsg and will never own 1 again. Off to bmw ZF

[@embakubmotoring]

So sorry about that, it’s quite devastating…

[@juscolmemax7211]

Me in the comment's waiting for my mechatronic order 😢😢😢

[@embakubmotoring]

So sorry to hear that

[@miyelanimashaba1324]

Also getting one. Warranty came through, just changed water pump 2 months back

[@amazingnebster6517]

i paid 32000 on a 6 GTI ccz

[@diljitjedi]

I drive manual cars I was interested in this DSG I have done a lot and I mean a lot of research on the 6-speed and the seven speed dry and wet my conclusion was they are so prone to problems I would not touch them I've spoken to gearbox experts who repaired DSG they said they love them make stem very rich now if you buy a BMW zf8 work of genius a proper automatic gearbox not a manual with two actuators that is what the DSG is rubbish design