Ending One Of Football’s Most Annoying Debates

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@UnitedPeoplesTV
@UnitedPeoplesTV Ай бұрын
Time to put this Vidic and Van Dijk debate to bed.
@Tompanelli1
@Tompanelli1 Ай бұрын
Great video ! Please do one on how OVERRATED Gerard was compared to Scholes/Keane / Becks so Carragher has to see it
@YuvrajSingh-c4f
@YuvrajSingh-c4f Ай бұрын
Vidic is better since he had to play against players of shearer and more van dijk had to play against dcl
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 Ай бұрын
Your argumetns and bias is just so bad, the fact you dint provide any context for Vvd shows ur bias
@DaveLaMuse
@DaveLaMuse Ай бұрын
​@@iprince7934 which context? We are living in an era of participation trophies and VVD is the best manifestation of that! Bogus commentary and journalism hype him up in the media. He is not at Pique's level nor Ramos, Ferdinand, Terry, Sol, Ledley King, etc
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 Ай бұрын
@@DaveLaMuse Your telling me the guy wo is the only defender never to be dribbled past a season, only defender to have 90% passing accuracy a season. Only defender to win the uefa poty and come closest to Messi in a ballondor race even compared to Cr7 is a bad defender shut up. You look stupid
@carlrowlinson2833
@carlrowlinson2833 Ай бұрын
Everyone forgetting Jaap Stam. Embarrassing
@Mister.Miracle
@Mister.Miracle Ай бұрын
Greatest ever Man United has ever had. Here is how you can tell, take Jaap Stam and swap him with Rio or Vidic, and we win the same or more. In Fact, you could pick up Stam and put him in any era and we will likely improve. Now, if I pick up Rio or Vidic and swap them for Jaap Stam to partner Ronny Johnson, we do not win the treble or back-to-back Prems. You put Rio and Vidic together, and you get Jaap Stam.
@Houtie19
@Houtie19 Ай бұрын
Stam better than either Vidic or Van Djik.
@TheGrimmCommoner
@TheGrimmCommoner Ай бұрын
​@@Mister.Miracle Put Vidic with Johnson then they would work well, because Vidic is a stopper and Johnson was a sweeper. Rio played the sweeper role when he played with Vidic. Rio with Johnson would be aiming for Top 4, not the title itself.
@vkdeen7570
@vkdeen7570 Ай бұрын
​@Mister.Miracle disagree vidic slots in flawlessly for stam. only 4 players have ever won 2 pfa player of the years all attackers except vidic..... stam at absolute peak best cb in prem but vidic is right up there and has longevity and impact
@joshuakithyoma9575
@joshuakithyoma9575 Ай бұрын
Stam says Van Djik is better than him , Vidic ,Ferdinand , Brown ,Oshea ....you get the drift😉
@Ugfhrhddhh
@Ugfhrhddhh Ай бұрын
Michael owen🤡 "Van dijk is the best centre back of all time".... then who is maldini, baresi, canavaro, puyol, pique, Ramos, nesta, beckenbauer, costacurta.... The man is not even in the top ten. He may be in the epl but not of all time
@benedictjajo
@benedictjajo Ай бұрын
Even in the Prem, he's behind JT, Rio, Vidic, Stam, Carvalho, Tony Adams, Kompany....
@shaneodwyer6132
@shaneodwyer6132 Ай бұрын
@@benedictjajo The Scouser in him got carried away
@HeinoHD007
@HeinoHD007 Ай бұрын
Even Pepe is better than Fake Dijk
@u-Dramatic_avocado5867
@u-Dramatic_avocado5867 Ай бұрын
Totally agree. It’s Liverpool and recency bias.
@rehankhan1630
@rehankhan1630 Ай бұрын
@@benedictjajo none of them got a second in the ballon dor tho
@adambarlow8294
@adambarlow8294 Ай бұрын
There is a lot of recency bias in football. If you believe the current pundits, good football was invented by Klopp and Guardiola 5 years ago. I dont know what I was watching in the 90's, 00's and 10's then, because I seem to remember United playing brilliant, dynamic, attacking football!
@flacohernandez4380
@flacohernandez4380 Ай бұрын
Haaland is also the best striker of all time People are clowns man, you would think football started 5 years ago
@ashfaqsheikh3134
@ashfaqsheikh3134 Ай бұрын
@@flacohernandez4380 ok lol 😂 This one is true 👍 But yeah for Most its opinion But what are Strikers Credited And Measured with 99% of Times Yeah Goals ⚽ That's right They are and Were And u know the Rest About Haaland 👍 Okay yeah Bye 👋
@flacohernandez4380
@flacohernandez4380 Ай бұрын
@@ashfaqsheikh3134 It's not true for me because I have seen better strikers than Haaland.
@Jporter196
@Jporter196 Ай бұрын
lmao
@sreejithps2566
@sreejithps2566 Ай бұрын
There is a lot of nostalgia bias as well. Tell me one player apart from Messi and Ronaldo who you put above a retired legend.
@rana1561
@rana1561 Ай бұрын
The audacity of Michael Owen to call Van Dijk best of all times is utter stupidity.
@rubenfrankish
@rubenfrankish Ай бұрын
Owen is just trying to find a fanbase that lovees him so he's sucking up to dippers... who hate him for joining United! He means nothing to United fans as all he did was win us a derby once. Nothing else!
@ericmunene688
@ericmunene688 Ай бұрын
I agree
@WillyToulouse
@WillyToulouse Ай бұрын
Said it next to Rio too
@ericmunene688
@ericmunene688 Ай бұрын
@@WillyToulouse sad
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 Ай бұрын
It was cause of his prime being 2nd in the ballondor to Messi and being the only defneder to win the UEFA Poty and not get dribbled past
@Kevin-uc9fw
@Kevin-uc9fw Ай бұрын
Vidic is a legend of the game period ❤
@sagethinker7168
@sagethinker7168 Ай бұрын
Lol VVD is not even the best Dutch of all time as Stam was better than him.
@carlrowlinson2833
@carlrowlinson2833 Ай бұрын
Stam was better than Rio and Ferdinand
@V0RT3X207
@V0RT3X207 Ай бұрын
@@carlrowlinson2833 wait what 💀
@steinhogger
@steinhogger Ай бұрын
​@@V0RT3X207😂😂😂 I didnt see it at first.. 😂😂 Maybe Rio had schizophrenia?? 😂😂😂
@shaneodwyer6132
@shaneodwyer6132 Ай бұрын
I agree completely. Stam is the next best CB we've ever had in PL era
@teresacorcoran6554
@teresacorcoran6554 Ай бұрын
Stam best ever
@Dmaj089
@Dmaj089 Ай бұрын
Vidic faced better strikers and players than van Dijk. Teams are better now but players have regressed individually.
@holylaci7539
@holylaci7539 Ай бұрын
Well said
@skinnyp8829
@skinnyp8829 Ай бұрын
Van dijk played against Messi neymar Suarez Mbappe aguero haaland Giroud ibra lukaku Lewandoski Griezmann Martinez costa Ronaldo????!! Vidic faced 8 goals a season drogba Faced torres and got bullied Got out jumped by messi in a champions league final Played with Ronaldo. So the real question is who did Vidic face?
@WayynePain
@WayynePain Ай бұрын
⁠@@skinnyp8829Vidic played against most of those guys you named, you can add Henry, Eto, David Villa, the list goes on.
@SuperHarl007
@SuperHarl007 Ай бұрын
​@@skinnyp8829 lol so you're gonna admit Vidic faced every player on that lost bar a few and if you watched the video you'd realise that your bias stinks from a mile away. How about Antony Martial Wiping the floor with VVD in that video the hype on that guy is really naive tbh hes a really good defender who uses his team to make himself look better than he actually is his best attribute is his reading of the game and and his aerial ability. He's not Even on the level of John Terry and Cahill fans just have a short memory and accept anything these biased pundits feed them with. Just by watching the game for decades I can comfortably say he's not even top 5 in the Premier league era. Vidic faced Giroud, Van Persie, Aguero, Torres , Suarez, Anelka, Babel, Diouf, Drogba, Bergkamp, Kanu, Henry, David Villa and so many more that I just can't keep naming them it's really Naive of you to compare the Caliber of strikers they both faced. VVD is just not on that level period.
@obongo96
@obongo96 Ай бұрын
​@@skinnyp8829Torres never bullied him. Torres scored 3 goals in 15 games vs vidic. Vidic bullied torres.
@benedictjajo
@benedictjajo Ай бұрын
Short answer, Vidic is better. Long answer, Vidic is definitely better.
@Perryvogelbekdier
@Perryvogelbekdier Ай бұрын
Quit lying.. he wasn’t even the best of his generation 🤣
@Mikhi445
@Mikhi445 Ай бұрын
​@@Perryvogelbekdier with all due respect You don't watch 2000s futbol if you said that with absolute certainty because that's not an opinion That's just being Wrong He's not on the level of baresi Maldini Ramos or Canavaro But he's one of the best of all time Top 10 Cb
@yournotmytwin7982
@yournotmytwin7982 Ай бұрын
Not according to Fernando Torres 🥱😂😂
@zenzelensimbini9069
@zenzelensimbini9069 Ай бұрын
​@@Perryvogelbekdier2000's talking. Cause you've never seen him play. So you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
@summonerbraddysg51
@summonerbraddysg51 Ай бұрын
​@@yournotmytwin7982 Pretty sure he only scored like 4 or 6 in 12 appearances against Vidic
@StrykezMan09
@StrykezMan09 Ай бұрын
Actual facts don't seem to matter anymore, people just say things and as long as they say it with confidence it's all good. Great video Sam 👍
@wildling3034
@wildling3034 Ай бұрын
The dribbled past stat is so stupid because lindelof did the following the next season. He wasn't also dribbled past once in the league and we know how good Lindelof is
@Артемсергеев-ы4с
@Артемсергеев-ы4с Ай бұрын
Was Lindelof PL winner, UCL winner and second to BD. Lindelof wasn't 50% as good as VVD
@wildling3034
@wildling3034 Ай бұрын
@@Артемсергеев-ы4с ergo why I said it's a stupid stat or do you lack comprehension
@sreejithps2566
@sreejithps2566 Ай бұрын
So do you think vidic is the only player with better tackling and blocking stats. I'm pretty sure any relegation team defenders at that time would have similar or better defensive stats. So would you say it was a meaningless stat?
@GutzOverFear
@GutzOverFear Ай бұрын
Van Dijk deserves respect and acknowledgement. And that's what Rio gave at the beginning of the video. But then you have the Michael Owens of the World. Just strange exaggerations. It's like Liverpool have been STARVED for top CBs so they give hyperbolic praise to VVD to overcompensate.
@antonperuga1833
@antonperuga1833 Ай бұрын
This is 100% on the money
@Jporter196
@Jporter196 Ай бұрын
wrong hyypia was a top cb so don't pretend they're desperate to hype any defender they're not and any fanbase that has a player like vvd who is performing like that will praise them often just as the pundits was lyrical about vvd also
@Jporter196
@Jporter196 Ай бұрын
no fan is overcompensating for vvd who has been huge for that club his performances speak for themselves the liverpool fanbase and almost everyone else except this man u fanbase know he's top class he's been one of the best cb's ever in the pl/europe won many individual awards and deserves the plaudits he gets
@sreejithps2566
@sreejithps2566 Ай бұрын
So it was just Liverpool fans that voted van djk to be the second best player on the planet just 6 votes behind Messi that year. Messi would still get those 6 votes even if he was playing with some grannies in a parking lot. Before his injury VVD was a Legend worthy player.
@rayfootblogs
@rayfootblogs Ай бұрын
Amazingly, in recent years some random Liverpool fans tried to claim how Jamie Carragher was a better defender than Rio Ferdinand, how Pepe Reina was a better goalie than Van Der Sar, how Roberto Firminho is a better striker than Sergio Augero, how Mo Salah is better than Cristiano Ronaldo in the Premier League era. Even Jamie Carragher tried to argue with Keano that Sadio Mane is superior to Giggsy. However, the reasonable Liverpool fans don't rank Dominic Shabozli above Bruno Fernandes.
@RedDevil-u4n
@RedDevil-u4n Ай бұрын
I can see brainless Liverpool fans crying in this comment section basing off their arguments on one of the stupidest individual award offered by FIFA.🤣
@jubleemithila7927
@jubleemithila7927 Ай бұрын
Salah is better than Ronaldo in the pl
@rayfootblogs
@rayfootblogs Ай бұрын
@@jubleemithila7927 No Chance. The vast majority of Liverpool fans wouldn't agree as Salah is only a one dimensional left footer who didn't achieve remotely as much as Ronaldo's 1st spell at United.
@kudakwashechikosi8046
@kudakwashechikosi8046 Ай бұрын
defending was easier in the past because you could be rougher. Also these centre backs didnt have to cover for gaps left by Alexander Arnold and Robertson while constantly changing partners with a sub par partner. If Van dijk had been Vidics Partner instead of Rio utd would have more titles but if liverpool had Ferdinand they would have less
@lunatic17ofin
@lunatic17ofin Ай бұрын
Bro just a small correction in that time there were many legends at their prime so it was not easier for them and even do they did rough tackles there was way more better dribblers in that time then now
@thepeacekeeper2338
@thepeacekeeper2338 Ай бұрын
yet you fail to negate the fact that liverpool plays with a defensive midfielder that protects the backline, something that vidic never had.
@yehudahwanderer9654
@yehudahwanderer9654 Ай бұрын
Van Dijk can't lace vidic's boots 😂
@nr9659
@nr9659 Ай бұрын
Do this on Modric vs Iniesta all Madrid fans talk about is ballon d'or but literally everyone knows Ronaldo deserved and they also bring up the fact Modric is playing at 37 but were and how was he playing before 27yrs old
@rammus5672
@rammus5672 Ай бұрын
Rio and Vida signed for United at 24 while Van Dyk was at Celtic. Different levels, we're just unlucky we didn't have the same level of social media coverage.
@anshdeotale1279
@anshdeotale1279 Ай бұрын
According to this logic we should say vidic was better than maldini. But thats no conversation maldini is better. Media presence is just an excuse.
@rammus5672
@rammus5672 Ай бұрын
@@anshdeotale1279 Maldini was playing for the greatest Milan team ever wtf are you on about?
@anshdeotale1279
@anshdeotale1279 Ай бұрын
@@rammus5672 was he playing on the greatest team ? Or was it maldini who made it the greatest ? He was the cog the held everything together.
@anshdeotale1279
@anshdeotale1279 Ай бұрын
@@rammus5672 also if you're so unhappy lets talk about someone like beckenbaur, homie was 60years old when internet was not even a thing, still the reason he was called der kaiser is because of skills.
@rammus5672
@rammus5672 Ай бұрын
@@anshdeotale1279 you're joking right... There is no credibility here if I need you to pull up the Milan sides from 2000-2007
@mikkotrades7686
@mikkotrades7686 Ай бұрын
Imagine being a Liverpool fan and watching this video...couldn't be me!
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 Ай бұрын
Its the most bias and atrouciois peice of video ive ever seen,, he leaves so much context and dosent even have good arguments. 90% of his arguments are cherry picked and dosent even give a single point to Vandijk. by the way he talks you would think were comparing Maldini and Maguire
@nosakhareanthony97
@nosakhareanthony97 Ай бұрын
​@@iprince7934Tf are you on about? He gave VVD his credits but saying he is better than Vidic is complete B.S and we all know it
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 Ай бұрын
@@nosakhareanthony97 What credits??He dint even mention his ballondor 2nd place nomination being only 8 points away from the goat Messi, he dint mention Vvd winning the uefa poty. He dint mention that Liverpool are by far a higher pressing team and don't have defensive minded fullbacks like man utd. He dint mention Vvd plays in an aggressive 4-3-3 while Vidic was in a low 4-4-2. He cherry picked the stats because he knew Man utd were more of a defensive based team compared to Liverpools possessive and attacking based philosophy 🤣. If you don't see the bias I don't know what will
@vkdeen7570
@vkdeen7570 Ай бұрын
​​​​​ @iprince7934 he mentioned vvd being better in the air and with ball u could mention ballon dor vote but that's a popularity contest I mean ffs jorginho finished ahead of salah lol do u know what's more impressive than that? only 4 players have EVER won the prem player of the season award twice: cr7 henry kdb .... and nemanja vidic. yes that's the only cb to win the leagues most coverted award not once but twice within 3 seasons I don't think ppl realise how good vidic was. ps saying vidic played on a low 442 is a ludicrous lie. vvd had his best season with a 3 man defensive mid infront the likes of Henderson wijnaldum sat working hard infront lol utd were renowned for recklessly attacking leaving vidic and rio often in 2v2 situations quite high up the pitch. utd played 442 with 2 man pivot mids which attacked meaning they often didn't even have 1cdm sitting. in an era where everyone played 2 up top vidic factually faced more 1v1 situation per season than vvd utd were the most attacking side of their prem era averaging the most goals, forward passes and high avg field position per player during that period.
@iprince7934
@iprince7934 Ай бұрын
@@vkdeen7570 He mentioned Ariel progress to atleast look non bias, the ballondor argument has still not been debunked. Because Vvd actually deserved it not getting dribbled past thr whole year never been done, to add salt to the injury his a cb who plays for Liverpool, most people don't even view cb as a popular position so how could it be a popularity contest when the odds are stacked against Vvd not to mention he finished above Ronaldo the most popular human of all time. Vvd never played with 3 man at the back, you've just blatantly lied because klopp loves his full backs to press high , averaging the highest line in Europe for 6 years in a row until Arsenal took there crown. Again Henderson and wijnaldum weren't genuinely defensive midfielders they were used to press and suffocate the opposing teams midfield to make them misplace a pass. Also I'd rather Roy Keane and Carrick than , Wijnaldum and Henderson any day of the week. In what world is winning the pfa poty 2x better than being 2nd to Messi in the ballondor by 8 points???Especially considering vvd is a cb. I can also throw the same argument as Vvd won the uefa poty which no defender has ever won and only Messi and Ronaldo have won it more than once. Your argument on the 4-4-2 is so disingenuous, your manager sir Alex has a famous quote that attack wins you games and defense wins you titles so saying Man utd were more attacking when 90% of teams employ the 4-4-2 when out of possession is contradictory. Infact just check liverpools and Manutd heat maps , Liverpool have by far more touches in the final 3rd than man utd. The stats you placed are also lies, you said Man utd scored more goals when there best ever goal scoring season in 08 only scored 80 goals , when in liverpools 3rd best season goal scoring wise 19/20 they scored 84 goals. Not only that liverpool also broke the prem record for most shots taken a last season, also being the highest scoring team in Europe's big 5 leagues. Also saying vidic faced 2v2 is just doing him harm as modern football teams attack with 3-7 players, while in set prices pretty much the whole team besides the dm goes to box and leaves the keeper and dm alone. While back in the late 2000s 2-3 players usually cb would be left back. I've debunked all your points
@yassinhani1600
@yassinhani1600 Ай бұрын
He’s an Absolute beast my favourite Utd legend winning 2 pl pots when many would say the premier league was better back then as a centre back is enough
@Rusco17
@Rusco17 Ай бұрын
This Channel is like a fine wine; the older it gets, it just gets better 👍 great video again Sam & the team
@TheZain134
@TheZain134 Ай бұрын
if we want to compare stylistically how VVD defends, it should be with Rio. Both will back off and wait for the right time to engage and make a tackle and both read their opponents movement. Simple term Vidic is just aggression, a bigger more physical version of Licha.
@TheOneandOnlyMe3
@TheOneandOnlyMe3 Ай бұрын
@@TheZain134 Don't compare them either also a more efficient and less mistaken-prone one
@shutup2751
@shutup2751 Ай бұрын
Cannavaro, Nesta, Ramos, Baresi all better than VVD, how can he even be in that debate when he has never won Euros or WC?
@spammer9823
@spammer9823 Ай бұрын
@@shutup2751 Vvd is good but liverpool fans are just delusional to say that he is any better than maldini vvd is a great defender but maldini is defence and defence is maldini that it's once and for all also mate I support you to say vvd is not better than any of the defender you mentioned above
@aleksandarc1630
@aleksandarc1630 Ай бұрын
I like how Liverpool fans when they see their "argument" about "Torres destroying Vidic" falling down, then they say- "but how many red cards Vidic got against Torres? Answer is- not a single red card in duel with Torres. Also, it's 3 goals in 17 games against Vidic, not 15 (Serbia played against Spain in World Cup 2006 qualifications, and Torres didn't score).
@aleksandarc1630
@aleksandarc1630 Ай бұрын
Torres scored 3 goals in 17 games agaisnt Vidic, not 15 games. Serbia and Montenegro played against Spain in World Cup 2006 Qualifications, and Torres didnt' score a goal in those two games.
@playedout148
@playedout148 Ай бұрын
"He is one of only four players to win the Premier League Player of the Season award twice, alongside Thierry Henry, Kevin De Bruyne and Cristiano Ronaldo."
@MUFC4ever
@MUFC4ever Ай бұрын
vidic>>>van dijk van dijk was never the same after his injury vidic was just class
@patricklarry469
@patricklarry469 Ай бұрын
I'm glad being one of lucky followers ❤
@Kylian_mbappez
@Kylian_mbappez Ай бұрын
Van dijk for me is the second best defender of all time imagine having a season where nobody dribbked past you and you carried your team to trophies
@Jporter196
@Jporter196 Ай бұрын
legendary cb at one point they wouldn't even try to dribble past him
@mechacantonio3855
@mechacantonio3855 Ай бұрын
Love the video Sam, great work!
@MorAodhan
@MorAodhan Ай бұрын
YES Sam. Stick it on them. That clip of Owen makes me laugh, the bloke's just a walking _poor-take._
@stefanstefanescu3202
@stefanstefanescu3202 Ай бұрын
To be honest, I don't care one bit about the past or about these kind of comparisons. In my personal life, I live in the present while creating ideas and taking actions that are good for the future. Seriously, who cares who was better or more impactful? I care about United's present squad abd the next match and this season. Anyway, respect for your efforts and dedication Sam!!! ❤❤❤
@CT.editor
@CT.editor Ай бұрын
I agree. however, without the past, there is no future. Without players like Vidic on our team, and other great past players from our team, we wouldn't be considered as such a legendary team without. that.
@UdaaLee01
@UdaaLee01 Ай бұрын
United fan here; please do one about “Sir Alex having refs in his pocket” I’m tired of folks bringing up false claims to discredit our dominate eras.
@zenzelensimbini9069
@zenzelensimbini9069 Ай бұрын
Another idiot with an idiotic remark😂
@anshdeotale1279
@anshdeotale1279 Ай бұрын
Idk I am still not convinced. Vvd being best of all time is definitely cap. But I still feel vvd is still on that hate train of "still active player". I remember the days when people used to say Maradona better than messi even though he surpassed him in every aspect. People will only start putting respect on player's name after he has retired or moved past his prime
@syahiranshah9
@syahiranshah9 Ай бұрын
Let's not forget, Vidis was a centreback in an era where strikers were ACTUAL, ELITE strikers. Even some midtable clubs & on rare occasions, bottom clubs, had ELITE strikers playing for them. Vvd plays in an era where he could just stand there & wait for the ball to cross his path & then call it "defending" without having to go toe to toe with the striker he's playing against. Vvd is quite a good centreback, but let's be real. He is nowhere near the top 10 best in the history of the league.
@Hamzz25
@Hamzz25 Ай бұрын
About time someone made a video like this . VVD may not even be top 3 CBs ever in the prem let alone the best
@TheBossMan2407
@TheBossMan2407 Ай бұрын
Some of the best content on KZbin atm love these videos
@disobeytoday4685
@disobeytoday4685 Ай бұрын
Great video. I wanna see something about United "squad players": Nicky Butt, O'Shea, Phil Neville. Absolute ballers
@beezermate2913
@beezermate2913 Ай бұрын
John O'Shea might be a more fair comparison to VVD. Then again, only 1 of them megged figo
@shaq1796
@shaq1796 Ай бұрын
Absolutely smashing these videos, makes me wanna grab my popcorn g
@hatchetmac
@hatchetmac Ай бұрын
I remember the liverpool fans saying Anthony Le Tallec was going to have a better career than Ronaldo🤣
@Bonnyking840
@Bonnyking840 Ай бұрын
You just put affort in your videos I love people like you u deserve 1 million subscribers and you will get there by faith continue you are just the best Bro love you ❤️
@flacohernandez4380
@flacohernandez4380 Ай бұрын
Vidic was an absolute demon. Ive seen this man single handedly stop everything that came into the box for Manutd. People forget John Terry as well. Michael Owen is a clown
@FREEFIREC-p8j
@FREEFIREC-p8j Ай бұрын
Vandijk dosen t need to tackle if u think about it even maldini the best cb of all time said if i need to tackle I've already failed and vvd has had 3 90 points plus seasons with Liverpool and could have had atleast 3 PL TITLES even finished 2nd in the ballandor
@narrow3601
@narrow3601 5 күн бұрын
Finally a stance from VVD's corner that actually makes a good argument rather than all the other butt hurt VVD comments I've seen spamming nonsense gibberish just to label this guy as all the synonyms of trash.
@djdeano83
@djdeano83 Ай бұрын
Well done Sam, great work. This is getting shared big time 👌🏼 time to educate with this one.
@apextheracer2022
@apextheracer2022 Ай бұрын
i do think you can take both entirely defending what kind of player you prefer. do you like a ball playing, more modern, and passive defender or do you like a more aggressive and dominant defender
@JoLoSittingRoom
@JoLoSittingRoom Ай бұрын
Should stick to videos like this. This & the Gary Neville one are class. More of these please.
@caliquegonsalves8166
@caliquegonsalves8166 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Sam. I love this video, it just puts recency bias to the sword. It's also shameful how past players can alter their audiences ignorance.
@hellokhan2050
@hellokhan2050 Ай бұрын
You just destroyed them.Nice video
@Soliloquium77
@Soliloquium77 Ай бұрын
This is an excellent Video. Well done Sam.
@NeilMalthus
@NeilMalthus Ай бұрын
You know your team's dogshit when you have to compare one of your leg-ends of yesteryear with a player from that traditional rival of yours that's got _such a bright future!_ :D
@NeilMalthus
@NeilMalthus Ай бұрын
Let's compare shittest Dutch managers of all time: ETH or ETH? :D
@Vighnharta_DA
@Vighnharta_DA Ай бұрын
And the traditonal rivals even after having the VVD " the best CB of all time " have to still win the "league 4 more times", VVD still has to be a double consecutive player of the season and still to get a "cult status" with their fanvase that shits on their team on minor losses.
@nostalgichabesh9596
@nostalgichabesh9596 Ай бұрын
Maybe we should start comparing VVD to Maguire. With the midfield cover VVD had compared to Harry.
@RAYSUNITED
@RAYSUNITED Ай бұрын
Sam, you simply nailed it 👏 👌🏿 🙌🏿 👍🏾 ❤️!!! This was indeed a myth-buster of a video!!!
@GreenHarpFinancial
@GreenHarpFinancial Ай бұрын
He talks about who's in front of Chelsea back line fails to Mention Stam had Roy Keane in front of him. I think Stam is better than Virgal the other 2 are not. Want the wild stat he fails to mention. Liverpools defence was 15th or 16th in the League Virgal came and all of the sudden second best in the league. Did Vidic make that impact for United? He mentions how Manu fortunes turned when Vidic came all the trophies they won. Then says Reo was great but reo didnt really win anything before Vidic came so which is it? Virg has had 3 season where over 92 points was achieved something Vidic never accomplished . Keep in Mind this video keeps speaking about team achievements. Also when Fergie felt Vidic and Reo couldn't handle a team Park would play who's only role was really to destroy or sometimes shadow . Plus Tevez and Rooney work rate was like 2 Faminhos in the team but with way more talent. He tries to dismiss chelsea stats cause he wants to use United team stats doesn't work that way. Virgal is better then Vidic even though they are different players as he mentions and he's better than Reo. Trophies Manu 3 year gap without Vidic, try 30 years without Virg also has as many Champions league trophies as Vidic . Oh untied for winning trophies also had this average player named Ronaldo funny how the great Vidic and Reo never won in Europe without him . That's like Throwing MBAPPE or Halland on Liverpool right now not as good as Ronaldo but best forwards in the world right now. I'm sure you can add a few more trophies in the Liverpool Cabinet . Also notice how he mentions Reo and Vidic ,Virgal plays with Konate who is not as good as either Vidic or Reo. Liverpool went one year with no signings in the summer and adding a 7 milllion pound player in the winter break. Manu were always top spenders fergie broke the British transfer record 6 times comparing teams makes no sense. Put it this way swap Virgal and Vidic , Virgal wins as much trophies if not more than Vidic and Liverpool and Vidic don't win anything.
@peterc55555
@peterc55555 Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis Sam. You are the best
@OG-AlanHughes
@OG-AlanHughes Ай бұрын
Great content as always Sam
@dvo66
@dvo66 Ай бұрын
to this day it still baffles me hows this even a debate, did these kids never saw Vidic play live ?
@BL_E_man
@BL_E_man 26 күн бұрын
You take such small things into consideration what vidic had to overcome physically first in premier league…for me what I have seen the biggest difference to me is HEART AND PASSION…VIDIC had it on while he was sleeping 😴…and VIDIC IS AMD WAS A DEFENDER THROUGH AND THROUGH
@joegrinefine
@joegrinefine Ай бұрын
🤔At 3.20….when did Vidic win 2 Chps Lges and was part of a team to also defend it?!?? I don’t have any such recollection. Sounds like Sam is sadly mistaken‼️‼️‼️
@khy6330
@khy6330 Ай бұрын
Vidic was an absolute beast for United, Vidic + Rio was one of the arguably best center back pairs in the history of the EPL.
@beauloppens4100
@beauloppens4100 Ай бұрын
I expected so much more of this video, I have no opinion about these two, but your desperate need to prove Vidic is better and use of sometimes childish arguments just make me wanna disagree with you.
@narrow3601
@narrow3601 5 күн бұрын
But like, how is most of his arguments wrong? Yes the Rio partnership being skimmed over definitely needs to be looked at on a wider spectrum, but aside from that everything he stated easily speaks to Vidic's superiority over Van Dijk
@beauloppens4100
@beauloppens4100 3 күн бұрын
@@narrow3601 It's been a long time since a saw the video, and I remember that he was very needy to put Vidic on top, and when the creator/narrator isn't objective, you always have to be a bit sceptical. Most of the times, and it also happened here they tend to pick out numbers and arguments that only work in the favour of the side they want to win. I bet when a Liverpool/ Van Dijk supporter also made a video, Van Dijk would come out as the best. This guy obviously isn't neutral at all so that sets the tone of the video. At 3:17 he even says 'WE' played Barca, like cmon...
@wolfpackpete6408
@wolfpackpete6408 Ай бұрын
Another hypothetical: Vidić not getting his knee badly injured in a dubious challenge ... Utd probably progress to the knock-out rounds of the CL, and very possibly do better than losing the Premiership on goal difference... Vidić likely gets another Premiership medal, and with a little bit of luck, the CL. Not only that, but when Vidić returned to playing, he wasn't the same big strong guy anymore. It set his career back big time and he never fully regained that peak physical condition. Having a 100% Vidić for longer results in more trophies for the club, and that results in attracting more of the top players - and for the right reasons!!
@chatters190
@chatters190 Ай бұрын
Great video mate, bip ups Rio and Vidic. Unstoppable!
@usernLa
@usernLa 15 күн бұрын
I love Liverpool, a die hard fan. Ramos, Maldini, Nesta, Canavaro, Van Dijk, Pepe, Terry, Puyol..... no one comes close to Vidic. I ain't seen a defender like him... I can argue all day, everyday.
@WeAreMessi
@WeAreMessi Ай бұрын
If Van Dijk had a bigger impact that's because the bar was low. Vidic was following the legacy of Stam.
@asadhussain5267
@asadhussain5267 Ай бұрын
This is childish now. Great video Sam
@sheilanyakiamo3575
@sheilanyakiamo3575 Ай бұрын
Mad research. I love it! Well done!
@sk0nz
@sk0nz Ай бұрын
Wanna go for Roy Keane vs Haaland myth? Roy didnt end his career. Haaland played the rest of the game and 2 international games. He had a bandage around his left leg, roy tackled his right (or the other way around) haaland told norwegian radio that roy didnt injured him, but changed his voice when the book came out
@johnaddaquay1114
@johnaddaquay1114 Ай бұрын
brilliant take! i thoroughly enjoyed this!
@briankenome
@briankenome Ай бұрын
That hyypia burn was sweeeeet
@ogunbolaolalekan1594
@ogunbolaolalekan1594 Ай бұрын
When saw make a video like this you sure have to watch. Lovely
@Abdi-libaax
@Abdi-libaax Ай бұрын
VVD has a massive head it’s crazy
@GR1MG0R
@GR1MG0R Ай бұрын
Time to give back to the community. share this with a scouser in your life
@7amza8
@7amza8 Ай бұрын
I don’t agree with Michael Owen but he is one of the best of all time and by the way, only 1 defender from this video was 2nd in the ballon d’or rankings behind Messi who didn’t deserve it that year
@baileyapedaile8306
@baileyapedaile8306 Ай бұрын
Van vijk in the season he "didn't get dribbled past" attempted 34 tackles in 38 games Vvd is nowhere near vidic and never will be
@Dodlo32888
@Dodlo32888 Ай бұрын
Next myth “salah is a better winger than young man united ronaldo”
@random-J
@random-J Ай бұрын
Make one on people comparing young ronaldo's prem numbers in a 442 to salah who had to go abroad and get better.
@seanregan5375
@seanregan5375 Ай бұрын
I love these random one off arguments about man u that you put out
@YahiaShafik
@YahiaShafik Ай бұрын
coming from a city fan i whole heartedly think that after maldini, vidic is the greatest centre back OAT, also respectable if you put ramos above him
@BL_E_man
@BL_E_man 26 күн бұрын
Like first of all virgil was born with amazing physical attributes anyone could ever ask for he can do anything he wants..
@othmanjanahi
@othmanjanahi Ай бұрын
Big thanks on this video.. I have a Scouser brother and we always have this same argument.. So I played your video on an big screen just to rub it in 🤣😂😈
@charlesraka
@charlesraka Ай бұрын
Another great video, Sam 👏🏽
@elleonken7599
@elleonken7599 Ай бұрын
Recency bias is huge these days because of stats and social media. Players and managers that have no business being in the top list are somehow crawling up that list and disrespecting actual football legends that came before them and actually won things; which if I'm not mistaken what you're ultimately supposed to do.
@Артемсергеев-ы4с
@Артемсергеев-ы4с Ай бұрын
What VVD did not win in his career? He was second in BD voting. And he would win if not Messi's brilliance. How many defenders can say that?
@elleonken7599
@elleonken7599 Ай бұрын
@@Артемсергеев-ы4с Winning 1 PL and 1 CL doesn't make you "The best defender of all time". VVD is great player no denying that, but I don't see him in the top with some MU and CHE legends. Also, don't get me started on the Balon D'Or, it's a popularity contest, there are plenty of seasons where the best player didn't win it.
@ВанбродскиРеБтил
@ВанбродскиРеБтил Ай бұрын
Vidic play against Messi,Drogba,Deco,Balack,Ronaldo(in Madrid),Eto and many more world class players. VVD play against,hmmm,Rashford? Haaaaaaland? Cmon guys FO with this debate...
@rasmusdoktor2779
@rasmusdoktor2779 Ай бұрын
Sam ffs, you can't do Liverpool mugs dirty like this. I love this video, so lovely ❤️
@Itsfootballingworld
@Itsfootballingworld Ай бұрын
united didn't conceded because they had flying dutch man behind them van de sar
@chrisfarr
@chrisfarr Ай бұрын
Brilliant video 👏🏻
@joshswain9288
@joshswain9288 Ай бұрын
Please do scholes vs de bruyne I’m sick of city fans saying se bruyne better I know he is really good but compared to scholes who came out of retirement at 38 and was asked back and won the league is utter ridiculous or the city fans that say “erm foden has a bigger premiere league legacy than Ronaldo” 🤓
@Chilland-spacenift
@Chilland-spacenift Ай бұрын
Personally I prefer vvd, but I only saw one or two short clips of vidic and vvd played for my club in the past so I really shouldn’t be choosing who’s better here
@zawadtiash4339
@zawadtiash4339 Ай бұрын
Recency bias is absolutely crazy
@bendegorro754
@bendegorro754 Ай бұрын
Liverpool fans are hungry for achievement. If you watch old EPL, there's tons of crazy footballers and their manager will encourage them to display their skills. In 2020 modern football, players limited when he allowed to display their skill. If I have to choose which Liverpool defender are the best, I choose Sami Hyypia. He's the real deal.
@BombasticLarvae
@BombasticLarvae Ай бұрын
VVD is an elite defender you just can't go wrong. One of the few elite defenders who has actual defensive techniques unlike that annoying Ramos and incompetent Pique. T.Silva and VVD are examples for defenders.
@kevinzanuar5492
@kevinzanuar5492 Ай бұрын
I still can't understand people that said 2019 ballon d'Oro sould have gone to VVD, Like what are they smoking?. Besides UCL what else does he won? League title? no, domestic cups (FA & Carabao)? no, did VVD carried the team? no, that semifinal againts Barcelona feels like end all be all argument againts Messi's Ballon d'Oro. They must have forgot the 1st leg game where they got thrashed 3-0 at Camp Nou and if only Coutinho (i believe his name, if i'm wrong feel free to correct me) didn't miss his chance at the opening goal at the beginning of the 2nd leg, Barca could still have a chance that game. Besides that what else VVD won that season individually ? Someone please give some stats to see and making a sense on this controvesy
@a.smahomed6045
@a.smahomed6045 29 күн бұрын
you arent smart enough to watch football
@chinchu7000
@chinchu7000 Ай бұрын
Bust the myth that Odegaard is better than Bruno please I’m so tired of it it’s insane
@beauloppens4100
@beauloppens4100 Ай бұрын
3:17 ahaaa YOU played Barcelona, that says a lot about your position in this debate
@piotrek9691
@piotrek9691 Ай бұрын
Please made an videos about people comparing trent to neville i think garry doesn't give humdelf enough credit or maybe scholes with gerrard and lampard
@sokinarv
@sokinarv Ай бұрын
Rio was the best defender of his era in England. Vidic wasnt so good all times. Stam was the best and all of his career saw this (He even played in Milans Defense with Maldini Nesta and cafu )
@Thebikerboy46
@Thebikerboy46 Ай бұрын
Great vid!
@OserojiemenKing
@OserojiemenKing Ай бұрын
Having Carrick and Scholes also meant they had more control on games and had to defend less as a team. Vidic was a beast, I'm just saying...
@saddammall3337
@saddammall3337 Ай бұрын
Owen was to much of a coward to compare Vergil to Rio...which should have been the comparison.... stylistically..
@HajaraKamara-nc6kp
@HajaraKamara-nc6kp Ай бұрын
Vidic is the best player
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