MOM, your son is a living legend, i wish he could have been my mentor when i was younger. you've dun good! God bless!
@jeffhesse8415 Жыл бұрын
My opinion, the best video for " no crank" diagnosing! In my 40 years of working on cars, I've seen everyone of those situations. It's so easy to make the wrong call if you skip a step or two. Voltage drop tests are very important with key on and checking in multiple locations (not just the wire but on the terminal sides as well). Thanks Paul and hi "Mom"!
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeff!
@ke6bnl Жыл бұрын
I have to agree that was very helpful
@kevinshasteen5682 Жыл бұрын
Your locked up alternator brought up memories from the past. I remember late 80's when 4 cyl's were getting popular, these cars would come in on the hook (tow truck) with complaints won't start. Some customers telling you to put a starter or battery in it; no diagnostics- just do it!! Usually their prob was an a/c compressor locking up, or a locked up alternator. By the early 90's both the American mfg's and even Nissan and Toyota were relegating their alternator production to Korea; there were no rebuild kits. The Korean alternators cost $600 to $1200. These were on brand new cars. Many times the alternators were on 30 to 90 day back orders. Same problem with the starters - oh the good ole days
@PecanPie1102 Жыл бұрын
You taught me the most important lesson voltage drop. Battery positive to battery plastic case. Standing voltage. 👍. Cleaned with baking soda and plenty of wd 40. Back to zero.
@papecheikhdiop8032 Жыл бұрын
God bless you Paul , you cannot imagine how i improved my skills watching you, long life to you, from Germany
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you
@gregmccarter2176 Жыл бұрын
He's helped me big time
@Brian_L_51685 ай бұрын
How sweet, smart mom raised a smart son helping millions of people how to fix cars properly 👍
@Z14kt12timandjes1 Жыл бұрын
I've seen that video with your mom in the last segment time and time again and I never get tired of it. I love seeing your mom! God blessed you guys with a great mom.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thank you Timothy!
@patrickhutchins6935 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed meeting your mother and seeing her constant smile
@johnchambers12 Жыл бұрын
I was faced with a bad block ground on a customers car that looked good but it was corroded so bad about one inch inside the insulation at the block. I was told by the customer to replace the starter, i used my jumper cable to apply a ground from the battery to the block in front of the customer and i started the car, i replaced the $15 ground cable instead of the $185 starter. Happy Customer!
@DeanLangley Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for mom! That was awesome. I’ve seen a seized accessory once. It was in my own car and it happened while running the belt started squalling and smoking. My asked shouldn’t you turn it off? I looked and saw it was the A. I. R. pump. I said no I don’t have any tools with me the belt will break and we’ll drive home before I shut it off. Taught my oldest son the tap the solenoid trick. He was eight and had to jump under the van at the Walmart and tap it for his mom to get the van started. Best video I’ve seen for no start no crank.
@bfpn4016 Жыл бұрын
I was working on a 40ft Nova Bus, with a Cummins isl9 that no one could get started. Using these basic voltage drop techniques, I got it corrected & started in 5 minutes. Dead giveaway was that the rear bus frame/ground chassis measured 18 volts. Found & tightened up the loose ground bolt, Bus started! I learnt all of this from your book! 😌😌😌😌 Thank You Scanner Danner! 🙏🏾
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! Awesome man. Thanks for sharing!
@richardcranium5839 Жыл бұрын
learning how to properly do a volt drop is learning the basics of any electrical circuit. once you have that mastered its just a matter of different applications. good stuff paul
@Paolo0902 Жыл бұрын
The last example definitely the best. Your Mum reaction after you almost finish filming is brilliant. The joy in her voice. Take care.
@dwej9080 Жыл бұрын
Paul, Thanks for your help! I had no problem putting a JDM engine in a 200K miles '06 Mazda, but when it didn't start I thought - Oh God what did I do? Followed you principles with just a DVOM and a test light with schematics off the internet and behold. It all came down to the smallest ground wire for the ignition coils. Unreal how a wire so small can prevent a car from starting! If you are ever in Chester county, stop by and I'll buy you a few rounds! Cheers!🍺
@shawnhimel1969 Жыл бұрын
This is a great compilation of testing. Once again each time you show the whole diagnostic process, probing both side of connections is very important because if you do not follow through the whole process it WILL lead you down a "RABBIT HOLE". I recently passed my ASE A6 on electrical and electronics. I have been watching your videos for a couple of years now and have your book, and use it regularly in testing. No matter the manufacturer, "THE THEORY STAYS THE SAME". Some of these videos I have saved and referenced in the past and the do help in real shop situations. I have been a paint and body tech for years, but about 10 years ago switched over to the Mechanical side. I am currently moving up through more ASE testing, and I thank you for continuing to give back. I am 54 years old and sometimes even with all of automotive Knowledge, switching over can seem like just starting out, that is why PROPER PROCEDURE IS SO IMPORTANT. Thanks Paul and keep up the GREAT work!!!!!!!!!!!!! Believers are achievers!!!!!!!!!!!!!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!
@supersam1914 Жыл бұрын
This type of information is really industry changing . I wish I had this available back in 05-08 when I worked at a dealer . I was learning but still felt like I was in the dark . Now a young guy like I was back then can use all this awesome information to continue to grow and work on his or her weaknesses.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam!
@gregskibinski9937 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! You’re the best! Paul my adopted son. First HI MOM !! You Mom borned the best kids! Now, you just saved me a lot of frustration. My 07 blazer started Thursday morning I was just pulling out to go see my wife in the hospital. And the power steering was growling so I pulled over to the curb in front of my house. Turned the engine off. Put fluid in and then jumped back in to go see the wife and all I got was a one click😢 so frustrated and panicked cause there is nothing worse than not being able to get to your loved one and you have no vehicle to get you there! Your video today is a gift from the creator as far as I’m concerned. My son picked up a starter for me I haven’t been able to install it yet. But now seeming this video I am going to check everything you showed how to. I can’t THANK YOU ENOUGH! God Bless for all you have done with sharing your knowledge. I will let you know what I find. Thanks again !!!
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes! Thank you brother. God is good, all the time, even in the valleys
@Gary_in_NoVA Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I have to admit, as a DIY neophyte, some (most) of your diagnostics sail over my head rather quickly (lol), but this one is something I can really use. Thanks!
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid, and all the techniques used are ones that everyone at home can following along with. Sorry oscilloscope; no soup for you!
@pavelkutishchev5551 Жыл бұрын
Paul, buddy, you are the best! Over the last 3 years im watching you saved me lots of money and taught great fundamentals so im even considering joining the industry. Thanks man for your great lessons! You doing a great job raising awareness on the ppl who interested in such things.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
If you do, I hope to see you on SD Premium next. It will be that edge you need for sure! Thanks so much
@jiggyjc5587 Жыл бұрын
OMG I love your mom! I got choked up watching that as it reminded me of my mom and how excited she’d be when I would fix her car. She passed in 2018.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry about your mother. And thank you for your kind words about mind. God bless you
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
We have added chapters to this video for easy navigation through it. Here is the list of the videos we pulled these clips from: 00:00 - voltage drop on the main BAT post of the starter - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lanZlZeIf9Ked6M 02:20 - bad block ground (Nissan) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6XVlKSDbdysjZI 05:25 - bad block ground (Ford) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5fcfJywfcSih5o 07:04 - a bad block ground that looks like low battery voltage (Cadillac) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWO2YYqDn5h6ibM 09:10 - voltage drop on the "S" post of the starter (Hyundai) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/paCUhIV_e66entU 12:55 - voltage drop on the main starter battery cable - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2GrnKeKjM6qZrs 15:59 - super high starter current (seized engine?) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoq6dH6wpceamJI 20:00 - starter tap test on moms car - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2GrnKeKjM6qZrs
@isalmankhan1 Жыл бұрын
Love the last clip very emotional, Thanks SD😍
@randyw.1252 Жыл бұрын
Fundamentals!!! Great video that should save most of us a bunch of time and money! Love your channel.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@onemechca Жыл бұрын
Brilliant procedures to show diagnosing a no crank with simple tools..Thanks Paul...Hope your mom is doing well..
@saddiquemohammad8702 Жыл бұрын
Dear sir , great voltage drop test .your techniques are pretty awesome.
@АлексейДовженко-ю5ъ Жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul, It was educational! There is no better reward Than MOM's smile Long life to your MOM🙏🏻...
@spelunkerd Жыл бұрын
What a great summary. There are two things that make me frequently stumble on this diagnosis. The first is if the solenoid doesn't close (very common), we are easily be lured into the false impression that we've load tested the B+ circuit or the battery. That leads to the mental gymnastics of reasoning that if there is no measured voltage drop at the B+ post or the engine ground when you turn the key, and you do see 12V at the signal post, then voltage drop in the wiring CAN'T be responsible for the failure of the solenoid to close. So, you end up successfully replacing the starter, accepting that you never did load test the supporting wires. I get the notion that in a busy shop there's no reason to waste time looking for second problems that didn't cause the initial failure. The second is that any test will have false positives and false negatives, and as you say a test light doesn't draw enough current to adequately load high current circuits. Mine glows brightly with only 6V, so its lower limit of detection is only about 25 ohms, far more than the few ohms that can cause a starter fail. On the other side, if the loaded engine ground rises to less than about 4V, the light doesn't glow at all even with current flowing.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
In your first scenario you don't have to load the wires independently. You proved the starter was the issue. Unless we want to argue that we have a bad wire AND a bad starter at the same time! It simply doesn't happen! Make sense? Your not wrong in wanting to still load test those other circuits but it is a waste of time imo
@FBobby Жыл бұрын
This is a great compilation for common causes and solutions. Every Tech should watch these.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@akaitv6606 Жыл бұрын
Arguably the best no start video out there
@s.j.5850 Жыл бұрын
Getting props from Mom is priceless! Keep up the good work. The electrical part of automotive diagnosis tends to be the most difficult since we have to know the theory & it's practical application. That knowledge separates the parts changer from the high level technician. Glad you are sharing your knowledge with the rest of us.
@jordanboulay3780 Жыл бұрын
great video for any mechanic who doesnt understand the importance of voltage drop testing ive used these test many times
@djosbun Жыл бұрын
It’s great to see the wonderful “Mom” again! ❤️
@davidessien5465 Жыл бұрын
Sir, you're a good teacher!
@Phantomas2011 Жыл бұрын
“COOL STUFF” for sure ! Love finding nasty voltage drops!!! Let my electrons go, cool video as always Paul 👊☝️
@vionelfernandez44747 ай бұрын
Example 8 is the best. God bless your Mom. You are the best teacher. Thank you for your videos.
@sebczajna7004 ай бұрын
obligatory 21:55 minutes for every diagnostician in life, but we often meet people driving to the workshop who know everything and have never had time to find a free half an hour in their lives... With Best diagnostics regards from Poland, your big fan 👍
@ScannerDanner4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@sheerwillsurvival2064 Жыл бұрын
Moms are awesome 🙏🏻
@glenforehand4816 Жыл бұрын
"Scannerdanner is my son!" Nothing better than making mom proud. I love it!
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
😊 she love me
@Randz2022 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, as a beginner I learned a lot from your channel God bless
@lolzlarkin3059 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. Fairly sure i saw that mini diagnosis before. But I'm pretty sure I would have got stung and have the engine in bits before looking at the alternator.
@ThunderbirdRocket Жыл бұрын
High QUALITY !! Incredible communication / understanding of how to educate people . Thanks mate !!
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@calholli Жыл бұрын
We had a similar issue with a F100 straight 6 engine. Apparently it had two different starters for a manual vs automatic transmission; and would need shims, depending on the setup. It was completely locked up, I pulled the belt-- crank was still locked. So we just decided to pull the engine, (it had over 300k on it anyway). I pulled the head off and dropped the starter-- about to drop the transmission. and my buddy came over and asked what we were doing. So I grabbed a wrench and was going to attempt to spin the crank and show him it was locked---- and it spun super easy. lol. It had a leaky head gasket anyway, so we didn't really lose anything. Threw it all back together, and sure enough it was locked again--- because of that starter. So I did some research and learned about the shims.
@ozzstars_cars Жыл бұрын
Excellent refresher! Keeping those diagnostic skills sharp.
@aleastwood1698 Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul say hi to your mom for me. It's great that your mom isn't shy to be on camera. Your mom looks like she is a great person, now I know where you get it from. Keep up the good work.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much and I will!
@petertorato985 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation on different no crank situation however the best example is #8. Love how your mom says it.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter
@isalmankhan1 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting eagerly for another great video😍 Thanks for sharing SD👍 Always special thanks to Caleb Danner you're awesome👍 Stay Blessed Guy's❤
@nwokejaphet9442 Жыл бұрын
You are my mentor
@mbs5328 Жыл бұрын
This 'compilation' concept is brilliant. I would love to see more 'Compilation of Common Faults' videos from Mr. Danner.
@lucionsrandom5195 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Now the first thing I'll link when someone has a no start.
@lakesautomotivediagnostics6509 Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul and Caleb hope you’re having a great day. Of course I have seen all of these videos individually, but this is excellently put together and a wealth of knowledge.❤
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@odishoodisho4904 Жыл бұрын
Another great one as always thanks for sharing your experience
@davidmoss9471 Жыл бұрын
I can see this format of video been made into a mini series covering a few topics. Carpet bomb of real world relative information! Great job Paul
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Me too! 😉 thanks for the motivation to do so
@billlangdon9198 Жыл бұрын
What a sweet lady your mom is. Awesome video and informative as always.
@ritchieschofield1185 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic informative video that Ive learned so much from. Thanks to you I'm putting all these skills into practical diagnosing. You should be really pleased the fact you've helped so many people from your videos. They say you can't learn from watching KZbin, well I certainly have
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
On some KZbin channel, you certainly can! (Learn) Thank you so much!
@wingman8447 Жыл бұрын
Mom is great! I too have had these issues and more. Very good tutorial. Thank you.
@advancedleveldiagnostics Жыл бұрын
great compilation! Really enjoyed, Looking forward to a compilation on crank no starts! Thanks for all your videos!
@erikturner5073 Жыл бұрын
I worked at a shop where a guy missed diagnosed and said the car needed an engine. It was another situation of the boss worrying about the bottom line and wanted the jobs diagnosed and fixed with little consideration of the techs skills. It was all about record times and making money even if it means screwing over the customer. It happens quite often in this field. Having techs doing work that they are not certified in. Anyways one day and an engine install later the car was back together and doing the same thing (engine wouldn't turn over). Eventually the boss had me look to see what was going on. Come to find out the alternator was locked up. Still the customer wasn't made aware and not only paid for an alternator, but also an engine they didn't need. Lesson wasn't learned and the boss continued to put techs on jobs they weren't certified in. Eventually I left the field entirely after 15 years of seeing this in multiple shops because a master tech such as myself had all the certs an those certs were used as community property.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
That's absolutely horrible!
@s.j.5850 Жыл бұрын
You put in the time, effort, skills, & tools to do a good job and it is not appreciated (except by the customer) or rewarded. I too left the industry to continue working on trains. More money & more time off & a pension. The side note is doing most of the work on my own cars without worrying about which tech under what kind of shop priorities is working on my car.
@erikturner5073 Жыл бұрын
@@s.j.5850 agreed 💯!! Yet people wonder why there's a automotive technician shortage! The list of reasons is LONG!
@14PSALM5 ай бұрын
Hi mum, your son always videos are the best, I love his work. Am from Trinidad, a little isla d in the Caribbean
@bangs2ndshotgarage865 Жыл бұрын
What would you thinks wrong with a car that when you go to turn the key you lose complete power to dash and everything? I’m trying to figure out an 03 Dodge Stratus RT with the 3.0. It has set for like 5 years outside not been ran. I hook a good battery up and if I just turn key on the dash lights come on but as soon as I go to crank it I lose all power and then the car has to sit for a while with battery removed before the dash lights will come 11:50 on when just turn key on. I’m stumped on this one. Not sure if it’s a starter issue or a security system issue.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bad main cable to the battery. Power or ground wire and either one would do that. Do some voltage measurements like I'm showing here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYLZfXuHi9l2Zrs
@joshclark6101 Жыл бұрын
Wow do more of these condensed trouble shooting videos of different systems.. brilliant, been a long time premium member love the diesel stuff more please
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
I will be for sure! Thank you so much for your support of being a premium member.
@geraldebad4453 Жыл бұрын
This is really brilliant idea mate. Please compile more video that has a same issue. Amazing!!
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
15:34 that's a repair cable end with in-splice connector. they work OK if you can cut back to clean bright wire and cover everything full of dielectric grease so it doesn't corrode quickly. I 've used some on Jheep's and other Chry'ap'sler byproducts(lol), which tend to have the cable too short to put ends on and near impossible to replace the cables.
@MawiMutale-bg2rw Жыл бұрын
This is great am following each and every step 👍✌️ Watching from Zambia 🇿🇲
@boboften9952 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul Thank you for the Test on the post footage Thank you for the Test on the Wire " Fun with corroded , crusty , exposed connections " ' 70s vehicles , 80 vehicles " One of the first cheeks done Excellent visually here Edit 21:30 Hi Mom Thankyou all the best
@ssrbob Жыл бұрын
That was a great ending. Good stuff man.
@ahmadghosheh3104 Жыл бұрын
Video Saved. Priceless
@rickrogers2649 Жыл бұрын
Love these troubleshooting tips that don't require expen$ive $copes and $canners. Thanks Paul. Great stuff !! P.S.-Mom Rocks 😁
@fatinsuhaili7872 Жыл бұрын
From malaysia selamat hari raya...good info mr scannerdanner..
@jyao5409 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@garylewis3641 Жыл бұрын
You have such a good mom. Good video!
@nelsonnarciso1791 Жыл бұрын
The thought thats there is wanna bee techs out there that can't do these simple easy repairs is mind blowing. Omg. Great video paul /Dan what ever your name is lol
@scottsheffield25945 ай бұрын
This was a great video. I'm learning alot from your videos.
@victorgonza4528 Жыл бұрын
Great video Danner , thank you.
@fermate1991 Жыл бұрын
Woa excellent videos I love your teaching.
@alexluz7023 Жыл бұрын
i have a question for mom lol..... do you know why the last one is he favorite ??? is it because he bailed mom out or because it only took him a hit to fix it ???? lol Scanner Danner you are so good teacher and tech, as a father and son we all love you and thank you for your years of knowledge and sharing
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Both! 😆 thanks man
@smiles7631 Жыл бұрын
Hello Scanner Danner! I love to watch your videos. Your son does an excellant job filming and I learn something new every time. These days is it imperative that you have some training in electronics. I'm curious if you have dived into the new electric cars any? Hybrids and all electric is coming rather we like it or not. My employer just bought a new electric spotter truck. Its the little semi truck that pulls semi trailers around the warehouse. Its pretty cool! They put an RV air conditioner on the roof of it, lol. Our company says all electric by 2025' At least thats the goal. Changing the subject, I'm starting to think that us technicians should film what we do to cover our butts. After watching Eric O and the guys at Go Tech, etc. I'm seeing a pattern of This car came from a different shop and ....... Do you have any thoughts on this that you would like to share? Do we need to start wearing body cams like the Po Po lol? There is definetly a loss of trust out there. God Bless and be safe. Thank you!
@Pablo_Automotive Жыл бұрын
Great compilation Paul, Thanks for share
@alejandrovelazquez2378 Жыл бұрын
Great video Paul 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@hairolf4397 Жыл бұрын
What's the average/nominal starting current usually? Great videos Paul, watched em all👏👏👏
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Less than 200 amps. 150 on average after the initial surge
@umairashfaq033210 ай бұрын
Your every video is gem sir.love you from Pakistan
@ScannerDanner10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@steelblackface Жыл бұрын
He's the best no doubt.
@anthonyheak34792 ай бұрын
Great compilation! Thank you!
@ScannerDanner2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
@EvolveAutoFix Жыл бұрын
Dear Scanner Danner In your opinion, which software among All Data, Mitchell 1 Prodimand, Identifix, and Autodata is the best for finding repair or service information for Japanese vehicles? Your opinion is greatly valued.
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
lol ALL of them. These days having only one source of information is not enough smh. So much missing and incorrect service info out there
@mikejr5503 ай бұрын
Great video Paul, Thanks for sharing it with us.
@ScannerDanner3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@mikejr5503 ай бұрын
Absolutely. Voltage drop is an overlooked diagnostic step that every technician should master @@ScannerDanner
@jutyuubfiook10 ай бұрын
Thanks guys, I am a DIY own car mechanic and I learning on an auction car named "demolition fugitive" which has a really bad condition. Just for fun but of course I want to reach my goal to start it if it possible. So I already tested the starter, which works well (not like your mom's solenoid:). So my last chance before siezed engine status, the bad alternator case. So today I learned how to start an engine without spark plugs and after I learned how to loose the seprent belt and in the close future I will check the alternator. Do you have some proposition to not make damage?
@benjaminrich9396 Жыл бұрын
Sunday viewing :)
@lokyblack33795 ай бұрын
Your the Best of the best Paul 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@nancylewis7142 Жыл бұрын
Perfect. Thank you.
@kckuc310 Жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@TurboPonies Жыл бұрын
Bull's eye. Last one made me a sub. Cheers!
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
Mom has that effect on people 😊 thanks!
@James-fs4rn Жыл бұрын
👍hey Mrs Danner!🤗 Thanks for sharing!
@cullenmiller8170 Жыл бұрын
I got burned by not understanding voltage drop as a first year apprentice when I put a starter on a farm tractor that was a no crank. The rebuilder didn’t say anything about the starter being okay either. I still remember having this sinking feeling after installing the so called rebuilt starter and it didn’t crank. 😩
@ScannerDanner Жыл бұрын
But you learned from that one didn't you? Thanks Cullen
@pureonyx5090 Жыл бұрын
This video was incredible 🔥 hello to your mom .
@colfergusson4242 Жыл бұрын
awesome video cheers for the solid advice
@AbbottAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Danner. 👌🏼
@flatdaddio Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@jeremyah78 Жыл бұрын
So good! So ‘foundational’, to use a word you often use, Paul😂👍✌️
@t1e2v3a4 Жыл бұрын
Nice video thank you for share your experience with us
@Anthonytheredneck5 ай бұрын
This is the exact issue that lawn mowers have, and that boss that told me to,replace them no,matter what without even consulting the customer! I got quite frustrated because they all make that clunk click sound, but at the same time you can have one that will make that sound, and still be bad as the contactor within is probably burned up, or heavily oxided prevent it from carrying the current. And im very against ripping off customers not even over change. So I got all there solenoids a brand new one off her self, and two from down stairs were we worked to get the other types one were the coil within was open so it made no sound at all. And another that made that familiar sound, but the contactor was shot. Showed how all 3 functioned with a jump box, and a digital multimeter, and drew a diagram of the internal parts. After,explaining this to her and that she basically telling me to rip people off. She still continued to stick to it. I never replaced them unless it truly needed one! What kind of meter are you using with the yellow Kevin style like clamps!