Engines of CSX: CW60AC (AC6000CW)

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

600 & 601 are at Waycross GA, and 602 at Huntington WV, for anyone who is curious :)

[@KVR_211]

I seen 602 in Huntington, also do you remember me from discord? :)

[@IceFoxTrainSpotting]

*as of now they are resting in storage but I suggest they should get rebuilt into CM60AC just like the ac44cw rebuild butt bigger!*

[@Tampa_Railfan]

I doubt csx would create an entirely new rebuild program for just 3 engines. When their time comes, they will most likely be sold or scrapped.

[@gloryannbatista6211]

Hey @buckanear railfaning for your nest episode can you do the ET44AC or C-30-7

[@TrainBoy-fd1bp]

There’s been possible rumors that the CSX AC6000CWs (600-602) would be restored

[@ChillMikeTalks]

0:50 I love how the SD90MAC looks surprised and raising its eyebrows and respectively because you called it a failure 😂

[@PatrioticCoservativeAmerican]

I'm glad 602 has been preserved, the fact that they could rip trains in half, damage rails, and rip cars apart etc is absolute bad ass.

[@tulyar1043]

This was probably caused by not having any anti wheel slip software/ devices on the locomotive. If this was fitted then it didn't do its job.

[@paulw.woodring7304]

I was a CSX conductor and engineer during the heyday of the AC6000s from 1999 to 2008. I was on numerous ones, had my picture taken in a couple, specifically 602 and 658 that I have the numbers showing in. Anyway, a few random thoughts on them from an operating crew point of view. Early on they had a "wheel hop" issue on starting a heavy train. They would strain so much trying to get moving that the wheels would jump up a little. They did correct that problem fairly quickly. They had the most awesome dynamic brakes of any D-E locomotive I ran (high capacity AC). They could just about bring a train to a complete stop on a downgrade, which most units cannot do. They also were very thirsty, which may have been part of their downfall. At full-throttle they consumed 210 gallons of fuel per hour. For comparison, an Amtrak F40PH generating full Head-End Power continuously burns around 150 gal/hr.

[@Pensyfan19]

Incredible episode, and especially great job with the editing by lining everything up with the music.

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

Thanks a ton!

[@TheAustinSubRailfan]

GOD PLEASE SAVE THOSE 3 REMAINING AC6000s!!!!!! The AC600's series locomotives are my favorites and I even used to see them pull trains in Georgia when I was a kid. Would really suck to see all of CSX's ones go down the drain.

[@brucefye3778]

Hi Kiddo! Great railfanning "history " video. I remember like it was just yesterday that my brother-in-law was working on those 6000 hp engines at the GE Grove City plant. I remember him telling me that the piston rods kept breaking. That German outfit didn't have that critical piece figured out right. I was taken back by those clips showing the rail damage. Looked like the drive wheels were cutting right thru the tracks. Good job.

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@lizggil123]

I like how the yn2 paint looks on them along with the way the radiator is like

[@Ashtonthecsx1871fan]

Thx for this video, man! I would give up a LEG to see them in service on CSX again. I foam over these things

[@Todd-i1z]

Nice coverage on the 6K GE loco. As a conductor looking at the in cab display it was incredible to watch how fast the HP ramped up at run eight no matter what we where pulling.

[@tulyar1043]

Did the AC6000CWs have anti wheelslip software/ devices fitted?

[@Railfan814]

4:47 due to the WNYP downsizing, 8 of the heaviest locomotives are unnecessary. Therefore they will be giving the AC6000s to GE in Erie, PA. They will be replaced by 6 Ex-Union Pacific GP15-1s. 2 are already on the property, and 1 is enroute as of now. 4 of them (6000,6003,6006,6007) are already at Wabtec, and the other 4 (6001,6002,6004,6005) are still on the WNYP. The final four AC6000s time with the WNYP before sent to GE is unknown at this time. Edit: 3:08 5006 became WNYP 6004

[@rottenroads1982]

In the End, I like the EMD Style of Wide Cab used for the SD80MAC & SD90MAC’s along side previous locomotives with the M, I, and MAC initials at the end of their designations.

[@southernpennsyrailfan8579]

CSX 5000 Violating this GEEPS Personal Space Lives rent free in my head now. Thanks

[@CSXEK]

This is another CSX engine I will be getting for my CSX EK sub layout and will be used for mainline power

[@anb7408]

Got invited into the cab of the 601 years ago by an engineer friend of mine. Even sitting there at idle, the whole cab was vibrating from the brute force of the prime mover behind me. He notched it up a couple while in neutral; I'll only say that my butt and back got a thorough "massage" from the earthquake vibrations that resulted. I could almost hear Emperor Palpatine screaming "unlimited POWER!"

[@buffaloarearailfan9928]

Great Episode! Although they weren’t the best performing units originally, the AC6000s were still a vital part of CSX’s roster and are one of the only GE locomotive classes I actually like.

[@CSX_2057]

I hope they'll bring AC60CW back into the Roster. Sure missed them when I first saw them on the abbeville sub back when we moved to ga in 1996

[@yeahman70]

Just an interesting note, sometime in the 2010s CSX swapped all the engines in the AC6000s for 16-cylinder GEVO prime movers, which were capable of I believe 5,800 HP, but CSX set them at 4,600. Some units were also equipped with the High Tractive Effort systems, and CSX reclassified them as CW46AC and CW46AH. The 7 units active on the WNYP still have these engines and are still rated at 4600. The 600-602 were the unique case, as these were originally pre-production units and they got their engines swapped out with 7FDL prime movers, the same ones in the AC44, and essentially were now AC44s. These three units only got classified as CW44AC and it’s likely why they are the only three that CSX still owns. At some point 699 was classified as a CW44-6 and I honestly don’t know what that was all about but it later became a CW46AH. But anyway this was a great video and can’t wait for more

[@markantony3875]

The 16 cylinder GEVOs were also rated at 6,250 HP for North American service. GE also sold a number of the units to China, where the were rated at 5,800 HP on the 18,000 foot elevation Tibetan Plateau. It is rather impressive these engines only lost 200 HP at 18,000 feet elevation! At the end of their 20 year service life on CSX, they were electronically de-rated to 4600 HP tp match the AC44 fleet. The units sold off could be re-rated to 6250 HP, but I have no idea if their new owners see any need to do that.

[@SoutheasternRailfan]

Nice bro, can't wait for the next episode since you take your time of making these type of vids. Also 616 had a sticker honoring the Seaboard Air Lines and believe the only CW60AC had a sticker

[@PiercesTrains716]

the AC6000 is the chad of General Electric

[@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014]

Thanks for inviting me for the collab!

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

Glad we could collab! Hope we can work on more projects in the future!

[@gloria6229]

​@buccaneerrailfanning1776 Fact: #671s traction motors and #5006s traction motors were replaced by RJ Corman, the derailment specialists! 😂😅

[@keystoneraillink2110]

Of note, some say the AC6000’s were derated twice. The 7HDL is rumored to have made 6,250 gross HP. When they were repowered with Gevo-16s, that number was dropped to 6,000 Gross HP and later further derated to 4400 GHP. All the units on the WNYP have the GEVO prime movers and some Evolution Series Electronics, and I believe CSX 600-602 have 7FDL-16’s like your common AC44CW does. Also, that unit, 5006 that had its traction motor’s replaced lives on the WNYP as #6004. Just a lil extra trivia for ya

[@MOHAWKL4A3124]

I really love this unit. While it's quite underrated. Once you hear about it. You cannot forget it.

[@charleswoods9938]

I really enjoyed this video it's because this locomotive the WC 6000 CW this was my all-time Favorite locomotive from GE this is and always a special locomotive to me it was known that only 3 Railroads that owned the locos and they were CSX and SP and UP and that's it

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

Thank you very much!

[@Slim_Slid]

Southern Pacific had three AC6000CW's on order (600,601,& 602) but they weren't delivered from GE. By the time assembling was completed Union Pacific took over and changed the orders to repaint the units. Those AC6000CW's never made it into freight service but did retain the specific ditchlight displacement per Southern Pacific standards.

[@tulyar1043]

​@@Slim_SlidSo what happened to those three units please?

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

UP still has these 6000s, although they are called AC4460CW And they're being rebuilt into C44ACMs

[@yeahman70]

UP has now finished rebuilding all of them, but they still have their iconic AC6000 radiator and some still have their original cab. Some newer rebuilds have had their cab replaced though

[@Slim_Slid]

Union Pacific rebuilt most if not all of their AC6000CW's into C44ACM's a long time ago,not recently.The 7HDL's were removed with newer 7FDL's for EPA compliance and better reliability among newer electronics.At most the cabs have different numberboards but everything else is exactly the same including the ditchlight displacement.There is one particular C44ACM (7312) on their roster which has a Norfolk Southern wide cab on it.Instead of the headlight in the middle of the nose,it's on the cab between where the numberboards would be.It was wrecked on Norfolk Southern trackage twenty years ago and Union Pacific forced them to do repairs on the unit.

[@yeahman70]

@@Slim_Slid They had their prime movers replaced a while ago, but they were only fully rebuilt to modernized C44ACMs in the last few years. The older convertible units were rebuilt first a few years ago and then the units originally built with the 6000 HP prime movers and later downrated were rebuilt more recently, only in the last year or two. The older rebuilds kept their original cabs with original numberboard placement while the new ones have brand new cabs with high numberboards.

[@Slim_Slid]

@@yeahman70 Thanks for literally repeating what I just mentioned and what I already know.

[@yeahman70]

@@Slim_Slid You said they were rebuilt to C44ACMs a long time ago, they were only rebuilt recently. The engine replacement and rebuilds were two seperate things

[@THE_IRON_HORSE]

45 units on one train is wild 😂

[@logandetwiler4483]

I'm thinking should we do a poll? I see a variety of locomotives in the comments like EMD's SD60Ms and SD60Is, Standard Cab GE C40-8

[@IceFoxTrainSpotting]

*I suggest you should do the gp38-2 or the gp40-2 next!* 7:09 *monster k5H!!*

[@SourrainTri]

it look like GEVO General Electric Evolution Series but arent GEVO ENGINE only AC4400's Strong Brother (AC6000CW)

[@F40M07]

Holy crap.

[@trentduggan5650]

They are nice locomotive's

[@1LWiLNY]

Love the K5H horns these things had.

[@TheAustinSubRailfan]

they had some really nice NF K5LA's as well

[@camsmith7651]

Nice informative video.

[@Tuskthefighterace]

That intro was the goat

[@CSX_Doolittle]

WNYPs AC6000s are almost over they got a train going out today with 4 of them to bring back to prlx they are keeping the other 4 for awhile but it’s not sure how long those will stay around

[@BBFHD7216]

That’s awesome, I wish I could be in the video

[@tylerrose5232]

I was told by several engineers that these things were complete junk

[@BNSFTrains10]

1:43 XD Also do the SD40-2 next but remember to include 8888

[@logandetwiler4483]

I think he told me we would be doing SD60Is and Ms hopefully

[@Chasesworld1058]

Why does CSX have to retired there ac600cws?

[@HeyItsMeGoku785]

Isnt UP like the biggest operator of the 6000s ever since there rebuild program?

[@3006USMC]

Wicked video !!🇺🇸

[@cbolanz1]

is there anyway we can rebuild the AC6000CW to make it work without derating the horsewpoer and still be reliable?

[@tornadochaser283]

SD40-2 ⬇️

[@workinghardusa]

Cool video, great job!

[@markkociba2567]

Can you please do the dash 9

[@robertcummings1971]

Maybe the CSX ES40DC Units i like those engines that are GEVO class.💯👍

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

Already done an episode on the ES44s

[@sitisaadahnurhayatin5343]

Can you make a et44ah locomotive video please!

[@OhioRiverSubdivision-hs5xr]

Very nice 👍

[@mbtaghost2583]

C40-8s the stranded cabs

[@bubbatrubbah505]

The stranded cabs?! 🤣

[@DavidOleaVelazquez]

Did these locomotives had wide font or narrow font k5la horns?

[@johnpullen1349]

It's a shame they changed the number of the CSX- cw60ac, #666, because in ww2 it was the number of a famous super upgunned B17 bomber, she was a brute too! It would have been a good tribute to that ww2 bomber.

[@syeet1234]

you should do either the SD40-2 or the SD60 next

[@logandetwiler4483]

SD60M and SD60I would be so nice

[@Scrp87]

W

[@22NCRAILFAN23]

Nice Video

[@TheRandomRedRailfan]

I hate to ask but what is the music in the beginning of this video?

[@ThatA-LineRailfanProductions]

ITS TIME.

[@railfankasey]

You should do a video on the sw and mp series emd switchers

[@keianakbar9892]

The Ac6000cw due to it's high horsepower rating is giving him reliability issue, and consuming too much fuel

[@anf_8310_ab]

Were some of those had their engines replaced with GEVO-16 at some point?

[@RDC_Autosports]

crazy i have probly everyone in my videos up in Canaan NY hauling garbage 👍

[@western-m1a2]

The ac6000 is him

[@kodiefuller6539]

You should do a video of Csx ET44AH

[@Skywarriorguru]

SD45-2

[@MattTheAllertor125]

5:18 honestly thats not what the 7hdl-16 looks like

[@MattTheAllertor125]

And not to worry the only remaining operator of this unique unit is up, still keeping them on their roster.

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

Best image I could get lol

[@bubbatrubbah505]

Fantastic! For those of you who are wondering what the song in the intro is kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3iZY4OIiNOhbNE

[@NintendoFanChessandMore]

Sd40-2 or gp38-2

[@JamesWellman-hk2zl]

Is 6000 and 6002

[@OSRP_Productions]

Where is CSX locomotive #666

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

It is mentioned in this video

[@jonsrailroadvideo]

It became PRLX 656

[@Creativestugboi4208]

Do the C30-7

[@michaelgarrett4988]

What is the song in the intro?

[@michaelgarrett4988]

Nvm I found it

[@bubbatrubbah505]

@@michaelgarrett4988 Mind telling me? I ve been looking for a long time

[@logandetwiler4483]

Heyy awesome video!! Can we do the SD60Ms and I's as the next engines of csx

[@buccaneerrailfanning1776]

Maybe!

[@logandetwiler4483]

@@buccaneerrailfanning1776 woohoo I'm excited

[@logandetwiler4483]

@@buccaneerrailfanning1776 I'll help you with some stuff if you would like