Honda CB650R vs Yamaha MT07 | Which should you buy?

[@farukesen1831]

"test both buy the one that makes you smile the most" Thank you for the video Dan

[@Englishbikerdan]

Thanks bro!

[@alexk3242]

Yamaha makes me smile..

[@forsaken7161]

Where man cry

[@Onyx0690]

Ahh that scream of inline 4...

[@suryav4994]

This blue colour is THE best colour ive ever seen on a bike🤩🤩🔥❣️

[@eagle003]

The paint scheme of that 07 is incredible...

[@doylee469]

Yeah but the fake intake cover look horrible

[@MotoGoato]

Nice review 🙂 I've not ridden the CB650R but did own an MT-07 for 14 months and put a couple of thousand miles on it. Couldn't agree more with your views on it ... it is a cracking little bike but has many budget compromises, the engine is a real peach though - lovely unit. Ended up trading mine in for a new 2019 KTM 790 Duke .. which is on a whole different level from the MT 😉

[@Tenktory]

I bought MT07 in 2014. Without test ride, because dealers didn't even have demo bikes. They sold everything in no time. The biggest concern is size of this motorcycle. It is really tiny. As it was my first bike I thought it could be advantageous. More manageable, maneuverable, etc. And that is true, but it also means less support when you want go faster. Less stability. More tiring during long run (no chance to stand on the pegs). And honestly, as much as I was in love with this engine for a long time, now I want inline 4 with more linear low range and more powerful high range. So I sold it this year and now I'm thinking if I should go for a comfort and versatility but no inline 4 (Versys) or something completely different like a new CBR650R, with 4 cylinder engine but less comfortable riding position.

[@Englishbikerdan]

The CBR650R is a beautiful looking bike and the engine is so silky smooth. Thanks for sharing your experience with the MT07.

[@Tenktory]

@@Englishbikerdan Thanks for great comparison ;) As a previous owner of MT07 I completely agree with your evaluation. Have you considered GSX -S750 before buying CB650R?

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah I did, but I wanted something that didn't look as modern and the MT07 and Gsx-s750 look very similar to me. The modern retro look of the CBR650R really interested me.

[@Tenktory]

@@Englishbikerdan I think it might be the less visually appealing naked bike on the market. Especially the front part looks weird and outdated. This bike needs black and red color scheme that was (surprisingly) withdrawn by Suzuki. But the biggest surprise for me was the position. Very short pegs, leaning forward, wide tank. Honestly, I felt much more relaxed on CBR650R.

[@LIFeGood808]

Thanks for the video! You helped me like the Honda even more. I was looking at this bike for 2 years.

[@tibbsazoid]

Almost bought one of these, they didn't have one in blue, which I wanted, and while I was hesitating about getting the Honda, I ended up blowing my bank account a Street Triple R. I'm watching this video coveting your bike, it's really impressive what Honda have delivered for just £7K. I've accepted if I can only own one bike there will always be others I half regret not getting instead. It's a nice situation to be in. Interesting how the CB650F was largely forgotten about in the shadow of the mighty MT-07. But with a few tweaks, the CB650R comes out way on top.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Congrats on the Street Triple R. Lovely bike! Yeah, they really did go back to the drawing board and make the rather forgettable 650F into something quite desirable with the 650R. Gotta hand it to Honda, they delivered one hell of a bike for less than £7k!

[@tomlarcher1]

Love my street triple r. I waited for months for the 650r to come to America. They took too long. Finally sat on 1 today in the showroom. No regrets on my Triumph purchase. Put together much better with better components.

[@canerustmert9771]

I had the previous gen cb650f(2018) as a first bike. Sold this, now driving my dads tracer700. To be honest, i am having more fun with the tracer. As a beginner I would get the mt07 , which is lighter and is more fun. I did not know much about bikes back than, i went for the design and engine noise. I dont know about the new CB but the previous generation was less fun. The 700 is more fun.. I think thats the most important on riding a bike. Go test drive both, low end torque is so nice..

[@canerustmert9771]

Or just go for the mt09 right away , its the best bike on earth

[@Englishbikerdan]

It's personal choice. I've owned both and I have a lot more fun on the cb650r. Plus I don't have to worry about the rust and bothersome electronics of the MT07.

[@ShinigamiShionZ]

I've owned both (MT07 and CBR650R). Just traded in my MT07 for the CBR (not naked). The CBR is better in basically every way

[@اىلارىللعلب]

Simple vidoe with alot information iam arbic and understand all what you said thanks alot man

[@Englishbikerdan]

Thank you for the comment. 👍

[@MrHermano321]

Here in Portugal the Honda is 8,000€ and the MT 07 is 6,555€, a big difference! Nice video mate keep it up

[@carck6442]

Onde arranjo a 6555 pls? Nova fica a 7200 chave na mão :(

[@MrHermano321]

@@carck6442 pedi preço chave na mão e disseram-me 6700€ em Sesimbra JB motos

[@carck6442]

@@MrHermano321 a serio? foi lá que me deram os 7200. Em principio nos próximos meses vou comprar uma, quando lá voltar vou ter atenção

[@MrHermano321]

@@carck6442 ah de frisar que esta informação tem cerca de 1 ano, provavelmente devem ter aumentado

[@carck6442]

@@MrHermano321 sim, é provável. Mesmo assim 500€ de diferença parece-me um pouco excessivo. Obrigado à mesma!

[@SkyDomeVIZE]

Very good comparison. Thanks.

[@mohdfairouzabdulrahman6182]

Soooo in love with CB650R...but the seat height is 810mm and i m short rider...5' 4"...have no idea if i can handle this bike or not...Great video btw✌✌😁...Greetings from Malaysia...!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Thank you! 👍

[@samus4799]

Im 5' 5" and am on my tips on the 300 version, you should be fine, but will probably have to single foot it.

[@mohdfairouzabdulrahman6182]

@@samus4799 yeah...i think i have to single foot and tip toeing...we almost the same height actually...thanks bro...✌😁😁

[@梁子杰-x6v]

Could you please make a video to compare Cb650r to xsr700 ？

[@Englishbikerdan]

Hey there, to be honest it's a very similar bike to the MT07. Engine map is a little softer as is the suspension. I'll see if I can at least get a test ride on one.

[@Cryptosporidium-zu2sc]

Damn I've wanted an mt07 for a year now or more and now this video has torn my world apart..I'm just gonna test ride both lol

[@nsilva800]

The vblogger had one mt-07 with no complain now he has a rusty honda and he's suggesting is better maybe Honda has a new online friend?

[@Cryptosporidium-zu2sc]

@@nsilva800 yea hence why I said I'm gonna test ride both?? Do you go blindly buy things without research? I'd imagine not since your on this video in the first place or are you just bored and looking at bikes you have zero interest in? Anyway I leaned away from both of these bikes and decided to test ride an MT09 instead after my brain did more research

[@nsilva800]

@@Cryptosporidium-zu2sc I'm not searching a new bike this review show up on my KZbin account and I would not make my decision based on this review

[@Cryptosporidium-zu2sc]

@@nsilva800 yea once again that's why I said I would go test ride both but ended up wanting to try an MT09 instead..what kind of bike do you ride?

[@lyalminchinton8825]

Also try the Suzuki sv, great bike.

[@gentlerider5763]

Dan: Nissin Calipers Subtitles: Missing calipers Me: Holy sh*t that thing is unstoppable!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Haha. They do come up up with some funny subtitles sometimes! 😂

[@sammehat]

I bought my CB650R today as my first bike. I'm super excited!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Niiice! Hope you enjoy as much as I enjoy mine!

[@PEZ1514]

first bike 90horse power good luck with that throttle control

[@silv3rArrow]

@@PEZ1514 It's much smoother than a 2 cylinder, as long as he doesn't overdo it, it'll be fine

[@sammehat]

@@silv3rArrow I agree! The power is there but I'm slowly getting used to the bike. Dont wanna over step my boundaries 😅

[@sammehat]

@@PEZ1514 for a beginner rider, the bike definitely has a lot of power. But it's nothing that im too worried about. As long as I ride smart and safe.

[@nickmohammadsyafiq6413]

It does feels like talking to a friendly guy in this video!i enjoy it so much! Congrats ! You came with the best comparison version of yours! I love it so much! As usual, you are awesome mate!!🎉

[@Englishbikerdan]

Thanks! I try to be myself as much as I can. Cheers! :)

[@pegsy]

Been riding my MT07 for just under a year now and very happy with the purchase. But, the Honda looks and sounds like a lovely bike. When i come to changing my bike (whenever that may be) i will certainly consider the CB650R. Good review, thanks.

[@17_jager37]

not the 1000cc?

[@ivanoxx]

you are gonna swtcih bikes just for the sounds? yikes

[@lennon6277]

yayks😂

[@dale-fi1fi]

get the cb1000r if you upgrade bigger big

[@John_Ridley]

@@dale-fi1fi Not everyone always wants a bigger bike. I started on a 700, currently have a 650, and my next purchase will be a 400-ish cc bike. I don't really care about speed as long as it'll reach highway speeds. Can't imagine why I'd ever get a 1000.

[@aWardAvs]

Amazing video. No one else has done a proper comparison yet. Thank you for this. I went with the cb650r and am in love. I don’t think I could be happier with my choice.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I don't mind admitting, this took me ages to do and I found it quite frustrating as I didn't get enough footage of the MT07. Ah well, glad you liked it and thanks!

[@aWardAvs]

@EnglishBikerDan Also bought that Akrapovic exhaust and she sounds amazing. Used your video for the install as well. You really do make the most informative and proper CB650R videos. I saw you grow from 400 to 5.2k and it’s been well deserved.

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@aWardAvs Thanks! I hit the CB vids at the right time I guess so a bit of luck too! Enjoy your new bike! :D

[@aWardAvs]

EnglishBikerDan I think it was very well done. I think you should have no complaints. You utilized the footage you did have very very well and seemed to be extremely fair in your analysis. I’d rather see that beautiful CB anyway haha. The mt-07 is a great looking bike but that CB -wow.

[@denway4321]

Whats do you think would it be suuited for me (190cm)

[@NVK85]

Damn, you can't even be alone these days. Even on a empty parking lot. Somebody will get to you and interrupt anyway. =/

[@Englishbikerdan]

Well, technically I was on private property so he must have thought I looked a bit dodgy haha.

[@JeffreyOcaya]

I am surprised at how fair and very practical your evaluation on both bikes had been. I felt like agreeing with you around 99% of the time. I am a Honda fan having already gone through owning 4 Honda's in the past but I do ride with friends on Yamaha and I can clearly relate to everything you have revealed here. Thank you. Can you just please tell me if I would need a windscreen on any of these bikes if I plan to go touring on them for hours on end?

[@alangriff1]

I've had my MT-07 for about 7 weeks now. With my weight at under 70 kgs wringing wet it has more than enough power for me and the weight at under 200 kgs is manageable.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Glad you are enjoying your bike! Cheers. Dan

[@Birne_TM]

made my license on a MT07, didn´t know how good it was at the time because i had no comparison, but would like to get me one now.

[@AevenSong]

Omg the friendliness is just over the rev line !! Subbed immediately! Great job there mate! Would really love to meet you and ride together if I were to be anywhere close to the UK! Keep up the good work! Cheers!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Thank you!

[@FloppyWaffle]

Very nice, glad to see this video. Makes me feel good about waiting for my CB 650R which has finally arrived! I've been riding it for 2 weeks and like you, I smile every time I ride it. It's a bit different then my 72 CB350.

[@tiffanyscott4101]

Any advise where I can buy one or was yours fresh from the box.

[@FloppyWaffle]

@@tiffanyscott4101 Hey Tiffany, Mine was a special order and the dealer ended up doing a dealer trade to get me the bike. Not sure where you are from and or live but I'm on the east coast of Canada. From what I understand the 650R was released in pretty limited numbers in Canada. I couldn't say if Honda Canada will drop ship some more to dealers but when I search for one on Kijiji. Some dealers still have one or 2 in stock. Good luck, it's a really nice bike and I'm enjoying it allot!

[@Dmytro-Shcherbyna]

Hmmm, in Ukraine new cb650r costs around €10100, while mt-07 €8000, and mt-09 is €10500, so I thought cb650r is mt-09 competitor, not mt-07. Choosing between 09 or 650r...

[@lifelife2517]

But in terms of power fz09 leaves cb650 in the dust

[@expatbiker6598]

Get mt09 for sure. I bought cb650r but if it was the same price minus 500 euros. I would buy mt09.

[@gooklogander7]

@@lifelife2517 it has like 12 more horsepower lmao

[@lifelife2517]

@@gooklogander7 yeah but way more torque so the cbr650r really doesnt have a chance in terms of speed

[@gooklogander7]

life thatis true but theres just so much more to the equation.. the mt09 & mt07 were designed to be hooligan bikes that also dub as excellent street commuting, whatever bikes. I love the mt09, easily one of my favorites engines but you cannot put all the power down do fo the chasis geometry. The mt09 Is of course still faster but 0-120 I bet its barely faster

[@calderon551]

I have the 2015 mt 07 , and yes, it needs an upgrade in the suspension.

[@maciejasz78]

Regarding MT-07 suspension: I recommend Dave Moss and his content in general to everyone who is into motorcycles, but in particular he has some videos where he advises his clients how to fix MT-07 stock fork and there is one where he shows how he does that in the video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWqUopZ3jbx-pqs kzbin.info/www/bejne/jl7YmpyhqLymhdU

[@jeremycubs8331]

After trying out both bikes I went for the MT 07, it's just very comfortable and light, plus it's assuring to know that it is purely Made in Japan unit. 😀

[@Englishbikerdan]

And yet has way worse build quality than the Thai Honda. 😉

[@jeremycubs8331]

@@Englishbikerdan lol true though 😁, can't fault a Honda quality I must admit.

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@jeremycubs8331 Glad you are enjoying your MT07 though, that's what it's all about! Cheers!

[@kb34958]

I' m not sure but the MT07 may be made in Malaysia?

[@jellethegreatest]

@@kb34958 MT07 is produced in Japan

[@travissearles23]

Just rode my new 2019 Yamaha MT-07 from Denver, CO to Phoenix, AZ in 10 hrs which is flying and i've got no complaints! Fast & fun as hell!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Glad you enjoyed it! I rode mine to Bruges from the UK back in 2016. Very comfortable!

[@travissearles23]

@@Englishbikerdan most excellent videos! thanks for sharing! had the fender eliminator kit done last week and doing the akrapovic full exhaust this week! should sound really good!

[@travissearles23]

I'm at 27k miles and having both sprockets and chain replaced! Finally installing the power commander after doing the aktrapovic full carbon exhaust 6 months ago! No problems with rust anywhere! Still loving my MT_07!!

[@Dara-ih6jq]

The Honda is a beautiful bike indeed. I wish I could afford a new bike right now. I’d definitely be looking at the CB650R

[@samoolred1245]

Allready know the end Both are good and both have pros and cons over each other

[@jamiecox2506]

After you've had the big, gold upside-downers at the front of any bike, you can't even look at the other style.

[@zedddddful]

Until you have to do the seals on them and USD don't seem so clever 😂

[@jesselopez0008]

@@zedddddful yeah thats the bad part , but you can install usd forks covers

[@mrsam884]

CB650R is my love and that's my first bike as well, half year on it and its perfect!!!

[@Englishbikerdan]

After doing 2,000 miles through France, Belgium. Luxembourg and Germany I am more in love than ever with my CB650R. Except for the seat, although it definitely feels part of me now!

[@bernardvelkaverh7824]

Honda is also a slightly larger bike. 50 mm of wheel base difference is not negligible.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I say this to the Mrs all the time!

[@foil666]

@@Englishbikerdan Usually it's the mrs that tells me that D:

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@foil666 Sad but true! 😂😂

[@jasonplatty4770]

if your little Honda is only 50mm I don't think any Mrs would be impressed. it would look like you had 3 wheel nuts.

[@1up_doug]

the 07 is much of a hooligan bike

[@TR5T]

One should ride both as the ergos are different, Honda weighs a tad more but both are exceptional machines. I settled for the 07 due to power/weight but the Honda is also a superb bike.

[@Carlos75_]

Great job !! The Cb650r 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Child3k]

Nice Overview of the two bikes. It just looked up prices here in Germany. All for new ones: MT07 - 6000 € vs CB650R - 8000 €. So that's a 2000€ gap which is a lot. IMagines putting that kind of money in a MT07 (Suspension, brakes ...). But - the Honda is really nice and I personally think that Yamaha needs to put some work into their MT07-Line. The bike has been almost without real competition over the past years and that's starting to change.

[@chincemagnet]

I don’t think they even fit into the same category. I’ve seen new old stock MT07 going for $5K on two separate occasions this year. The Honda is $9K+. No brainer, I’d do what I did and buy new old stock MT-09 for $7K. If I really wanted a bike in that price range, it would be a new Triumph Street Triple

[@Englishbikerdan]

Here in the UK they are very similar money. Both naked, both middleweight bikes.

[@chincemagnet]

What about the Triumph? That’s a British brand isn’t it? Are they cheaper in the UK than in the US? I’d still take the Triumph. But forced to choose between the two, I’d take the Honda.

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@chincemagnet Yeah we have Triumph but they are not cheap. The cheapest Street Triple S is £8,300. It's also much more powerful which is why it gets put up against the likes of the MT09 and Z900 as they all make around 115-125bhp.

[@whatsstefon]

For that price difference, you could buy the cheaper bike, do an Efi retune and custom fork springs and rear shock, and still have money left over.

[@AP-wu1rv]

I really want a CB or CBR 650 as my first bike they are really expensive tho

[@bweimer157]

Great review. I'm a 4 cyl guy. I had a 2017 FZ-07 ABS and never really fell in love with the bike. I liked the looks and the riding position, but the rumble of the twin was distracting. I'm a seasoned rider (40+ years and 17 bikes) and I prefer a smoother power delivery. When filtering through traffic, I never felt like I was in the right gear on the Yamaha. I've been looking at the CB 650r and it was really great to hear the perspective of someone who has owned both.

[@justinsaponari]

Can't argue with the rumble but I bought a 2018 MT-07 and when I was breaking it in, it felt exactly as you described, felt like never in the right gear, I thought it was me, there was a delayed throttle response and chugs in the low gears. I'm in Australia and I had a professional tuner re-map the bike.. It's now a completely different bike and a non issue, they come out running a little lean due to emissions and so the feeling through the throttle and gear changing felt rough from factory. I was a little dissapointed before the tune and now its amazing!!

[@bweimer157]

@@justinsaponari Thanks for that info, Justin. I wish I would have considered tweaking the map before I got rid of mine. I also owned an MT-03. I didn't like the way that bike's throttle responded until I had a tech do some work on it. That bike also became a different machine after the adjustment, which was much better. Glad to hear you got yours sorted and hope you enjoy it for many years to come. I haven't made my final decision on my next bike. I really like the CB650R, but for about $100 more I could get an MT-09, which also has more than two cylinders, has more horsepower and it is lighter. It should be a no brainer, but I've heard some bad things about the MT-09 handling and throttle response.

[@justinsaponari]

@@bweimer157 Go with the CB650R, it's a much better bike overall than the MT-09 in my opinion

[@Englishbikerdan]

I actually know what you mean about filtering on a twin cylinder, it's just not as pleasant as doing it on a silky smooth 4.

[@danielmastrangelo3778]

Bob the mt09 is a great bike. Look into a flash tune and the throttle issue will be gone.

[@seamuslewin4325]

crazy how security asks you to move (happens a good amount on motorcycle videos),, that would never happen here in Canada.

[@Palcious]

Where I'm from, the Honda comes at about the price of the mt09 while the 07 comes way cheaper...

[@Englishbikerdan]

That's crazy! We're lucky in the UK.

[@michaelweiss4842]

yeah MT-07 by me are running around 7k, I haven't seen a CB650r for less than 10k

[@AverageCitizen333]

I just bought a new mt-07 for $6500 USD, the cb650r is still $9000 USD. I honestly thought for the price difference they aren't really in the same category when all is considered. The Mt-09 is priced around the cb650r so I'd compare those two.

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@AverageCitizen333 That's fine but I live in the UK, where the MT07 is £6,349 and the CB650R is £6,999. In fact I only paid £6,499 for mine so £149 more than an MT. No brainer.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Palcious not where I am! Here in VT a MT07 is $7700. A XSR700 is $8400 if you want the nicer cafe style look. And the CB650R comes in at $8700 at the same dealer. So not a terrible price difference. And with the added price you get a bike that’s built MUCH better, the Yamahas use really cheap paint that chips easy, has low tech, terrible suspension, lackluster brakes... Yamaha costs less because they cut cost in places where it shouldn’t be cut....

[@stigjensen4818]

I have a 2018 mt 07, real Nice bike! I love it.. 😍 I adjust the bag suspension to harder, and now the bike is just perfect!!

[@AmritxDhillon]

You genuinely make the best motor reviews/comparisons on KZbin. It is facts, experience and showcase. Perfect combination, thanks!

[@AlvinCornelius]

He's better than c2w and yammie.

[@mcscotty325]

The Honda looks a lot nicer. Let's not pretend that doesn't matter.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Looks are very subjective. I prefer the Honda too but plenty of younger folk like the new Yamaha design language.

[@unnf9971]

the CB for a "neo" cafe is a gorgeous looking bike.

[@MRTPR]

Excellent comparison Mate , I would lean toward the Honda but as you said they are both great bikes.

[@jackwednesday]

Honda seems a far more mature choice. For me it would be the in-line four

[@alangriff1]

And by mature you mean what?

[@jackwednesday]

eagle52 exactly that, the MT engine configuration is more for torque, wheelies and suits a younger rider, hence the vast majority of (UK) riders on MT-07’s are teens/early 20’s. The inline fours on the other hand tend to be ridden by older riders (30+) because back in the 90’s we all started on 600cc hornets/bandits with inline 4’s. It’s what we know. The ride is smoother and less jerky. It’s not a criticism of the MT-07, I actually think it is a fun bike to ride. But the average customer will be younger and less experienced due to its engine characteristics and looks.

[@filoIII]

@@jackwednesday Need that 650 as a parallel twin.

[@MfJediKnight]

Fuck me I want a CB650R. I’ve owned 2 bikes, both Honda’s, both 80s bikes. Donations are welcome! Get a young man off a 83 CB550SC and plopped onto the seat of a 2019 CB650R!!! ❤️❤️😂

[@alexnazario6295]

i've watch reviews of this two bikes for quite sometimes, definitely most detailed comparison to date.... nice job man...

[@Englishbikerdan]

Thanks for watching!

[@Kay8B]

If your a city rider, MT all day. So much fun when your barely going above 60mph

[@Englishbikerdan]

I can agree with that.

[@BikerXJoe6993]

Supposed to pickup my MT07 in 2 days cant wait

[@TheBrogamer97]

I have the black widow on mine and it’s stupid loud but I love it 😂

[@ladislavsurovcik3129]

BikerXJoe you will be satisfied 👍👍👍

[@painterboy454]

Make sure you get a radiator stone guard!!! If you take a look at the MT 07 shown in this video at 3:50 seconds, the radiator has taken quite a beating. A stone guard only costs about the same as a nice dinner out for two whereas a replacement radiator costs the about the same as an engagement ring! Lol 😉

[@painterboy454]

By the way Joe, you can get one from Irwin Supply on Tollgate Rd. West.

[@Blue-ml4nw]

I got an mt 07 few months ago. All I'm gonna say is prepare yourself for a lot of fun

[@warriormama13]

I like your videos. Very informative. Good job man

[@someaussiebloke4487]

It's confusing how you English use metric for liquid but imperial for distance

[@billyfasoulis8948]

lol the way you pronounce some words makes you sound like Korg from Thor

[@Englishbikerdan]

Haha that's a new one on me, Korg is a legend!

[@Finriel19]

Nice video! I'm glad I ordered a CB650R a week ago. :D

[@Englishbikerdan]

Awesome, how are you getting on with it?

[@DB-sd3cw]

07 with akropovic is probably the best sounding bike for the money.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I had the Akra on my MT07 at first but it was SO loud. Then I swapped to a Yoshi system which was a nice compromise.

[@MrB590]

Honda for me prefer the inline 4

[@Smt_Glaive]

What does the Yamaha have? Is a inline better?

[@KERBROES]

@@Smt_Glaive Yamaha has a 270 degree parallel twin.

[@barrygoodson4952]

There is a clear bias towards the Honda in this video. The Yamaha has the much better motor if you go off road at all. The Honda may have a little better brakes for the experienced rider but most people will never feel the difference. Depends on where most of your riding time will be spent. If it's around town and some trails I'd pick the Yamaha. A lot of freeway time and I'd pick the Honda. This video really isn't comparing apples to apples.

[@Englishbikerdan]

No, I just make observations on each bike. Both good and bad. Anyone with any kind of experience will notice the better brakes and suspension. Notice how I mention good points on the MT over the Honda? That's called being unbiased. I wouldn't take either of these bikes off road. They are not designed for it. At all.

[@westy5334]

As an MT-07 owner (5yrs) I 100% agree with your assessment of the suspension and brakes so looking to change soon - taken it on a few track days and when pushed that squidgy 🤪front end does NOT inspire confidence. Been eyeing up the CB650R, CBR650R and the Street Triple RS as well as a few others. However I feel the look change from the MT to the CB650R won't be enough for me. Was it just the overall ride that did it for you - are you tiring of the look? Interesting to see how long you'll keep it. I can so seeing you jumping to the Street Triple RS in the near future (2021)... I know that revamp look of the bug eyes is growing on you! :p Plus the feel / brakes and handling of the RS is on another level. I'm torn between the above 3 mentioned bikes but see myself going for the RS or CBR rather than the CB. I love the naked look (don't we all... ) but feel I'll tire of the look, due to the similarity in looks of the MT 🤔. Nice vids btw 👍

[@taehyungkim1856]

the guy in the van didnt like how you spoke highly of 650 over 07

[@Sean_Lightning_OBrien]

The MT07 with an aftermarket exhaust sounds AMAZING.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I have to agree! I had the Akra and then Yoshi on my MT07. Both sound badass!

[@koofdome]

Have you ever heard an inline 4? Eargasm.

[@matthewhaworth5935]

The MT really does sound great but as I'm sure Dan can attest, the CB with the akra when you're on the bike at wide open and hit around 6k revs onward the CB just sounds and pulls like a rocket ship and makes you forget all about that MT low end. That is one of my favorite things about the CB. It's a tame little bunny rabbit when you're behaving yourself but Dr Jekyl and Mr Hydes out when you get to twisting.

[@koofdome]

Matthew Haworth I feel the exact same. Once you hit the power band my god the thing blasts off. Just pulllllllls

[@d3tail3ddee67]

I only trust Honda for my engine 🖤

[@1smokeyj350]

D3tail3d Dee only as a Landscaepers I say that

[@joemann7971]

all the 4 Japanese bike manufacturers are quite reliable but I do prefer the CB650R,.mostly because I like the look

[@The.JZA.]

I'm saving for a CB650R. I haven't ridden one yet but once I have the cash I will arrange a demo ride. I have owned an MT07 and I agree about the suspension. It wallows around in the corners. Still pretty good for day to day riding but when you wanna push harder in the corners, it starts to show how cheap the suspension is.

[@RaNo-57]

Hey Dan, first of all great video, would it be possible for you to test ride a 790 Duke, and then compare it to your CB? Would be very grateful, keep up the high quality👍🏼

[@Englishbikerdan]

I should hopefully be able to do something soon, although not sure I'll do another in depth comparison video.

[@CFC_44]

I think the MT07 is a nicer looking bike. Looks more sporty and aggressive.

[@Englishbikerdan]

To each his (or her) own. Both are different styles so they appeal to different tastes I'd say.

[@CFC_44]

@@Englishbikerdan true! 😊

[@vintagetintrader1062]

Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki need to start doing the 270 degree style cranks like Yamaha, Triumph and even the new Royal Enfield 650. They make these mid size bikes come alive

[@Englishbikerdan]

100% agree.

[@lewisjackson7572]

I have a Honda vtr250. Seems like it’s more powerful than similar 250s around

[@Herzankerkreuz67]

Honda NC 750 has 270 degree crank, just saying.... With the right exhaust it's sounds absolutely amazing

[@windchaser83]

Suzuki? It is the only one with a real v twin!

[@vintagetintrader1062]

Yes the NC, wish they did this engine in a lightweight CB naked with a RVF750 swingarm, now that would be a nice bike

[@ImplantedMemories]

with the new 2021 MT-07 Yamaha solved that problem. The new MT-07 isn't buyable with that ugly headlight. So today it's more Kawasaki Z650 / Z900 vs Honda CB650R

[@Englishbikerdan]

Have to agree about that headlight. Yuk!

[@kjbgvdslgefj]

That was a fast delivery! Thanks Dan, also following you on Insta :)

[@Englishbikerdan]

Thank you kindly!

[@amanteapasionado6836]

I had my 2017 FZ-07 for about 1.5 years now and the only thing I'd change on it is the suspension and the power.

[@ThemeDesign]

mt07 is really aggressive, you can't ride normal on that thing. Unlike honda is more all range, though i ride fz6 which is absolute joy to ride.

[@Englishbikerdan]

I got used to the 07 pretty quickly. You can ride it softly and it's actually a pussycat really. Now the 09, that is a snappy brute! :D

[@seyfidogan869]

The YAMAHA Mt 07 is my favorite 1.. it looks better..2 it is not heavy like the honda cb 650... 3. the yamaha is much more cheaper than the honda, this why the Mt 07 is sold out therefore you have a wide range of accessories and spareparts 6..and the most important thing is you have more power in the low rpm range..this is perfect for lazy gear changing...

[@Englishbikerdan]

Looks are subjective though, I prefer the Honda. Yes the Yam is lighter and you can feel it for sure. The MT07 not much cheaper than the Honda in my country. Plenty of bits for the Honda already. MT has lower torque, definitely but that Honda will spank it on top end. I actually find the Honda really nice and relaxing to ride low down because it has good midrange and excellent throttle response. PLUS, the Honda brakes and suspension are so much better. Whatever you ride, enjoy!

[@althafhussain4605]

You are very lucky to have those bikes In my place I own a 220cc single cylinder Having 21 hourses Still considered to be over powered It's awesome to see you in those beasts

[@Englishbikerdan]

Small cc bikes are still fun though, sometimes bigger isn't always better Thanks for watching!

[@1990-t1j]

I have three big bikes, Althaf, but I am getting rid of a couple of them and buying a KTM 390 Duke.

[@althafhussain4605]

@@1990-t1j can I know which are those bikes please In my place the most powerful bike that rich own is the KTM 390 Nice choice man the king of single cylinders

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@1990-t1j I have got a KTM 390 Duke for a week from KTM. It's SO much fun!! I'll be reviewing it soon.

[@madingahmar4420]

EnglishBikerDan yayyy

[@baturpasha2709]

OK CB650R suspension and brakes are better. BUT that engine’s limiter is at 12.000 rpm. So if you mostly ride in city with heavy traffic , MT engine is better. CB is better at track surely. Also you may upgrade MT’s suspension but at a cost. So I think it is down to where you ride / how you ride. That CB looks sexy though.

[@Frejborg]

Nice comparison mate, and once again my preference is confirmed. Honda all the way! I think this CB looks great, and I really like this blue colour. It's also just a superior machine to the FZ-07. I love honda's refinement, sensibility, and quality.

[@ismailfarman8338]

A very good and informative comparison between both the bikes👌🏻👍🏻. But bro it would be really helpful if you have included Kawasaki Z650 with them too. 🙂

[@Englishbikerdan]

No Kwak dealer near me I'm afraid.

[@rsobral560]

I like my girls to be throaty and to be screamers 🤣

[@Englishbikerdan]

Bingo! Haha.

[@formanlenis]

​@@Englishbikerdan3 years later and still replying lol

[@rubeiko]

I like to get one CB650R but after few videos ive seen i landed up buying XSR 700

[@solodude23]

Man, I'm torn between them. Both are beautiful bikes. What made you choose the XSR 700? I gotta admit I love the sound of a twin.

[@rubeiko]

@@solodude23 man i think several times coz i really love the looks of CB650r but then after considering the resale value plus the Xs700 is little cheaper by 400 dollars and more lighter since am 5 6 tall i decided its yamaha fo rme

[@brucebillb]

Wow are you me? I'm also torn between the two, stand 5'6 tall and price gap in my country is also 400 usd. The honda looks like the right choice but my heart goes to the xsr. I love the sights and the sounds. Pls convince me lol

[@Absolute_Unit135]

I haven’t ridden an MT 09 or a CB650R, but I’ve owned CBR600RR and an FZ09. The CB650R definitely sounds like a better value and motorcycle overall, but there’s something primal about the MT07 and 09. And once you experience the low-mid range grunt of both, it’s really hard to go back to higher revving bikes (UNLESS you’re going to the track). I was so skeptical coming to an FZ09 after having all the race bike goodies, but I wouldn’t ever buy another race bike unless it fell into my lap. Great video though!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Interestingly the MT07 only makes 2Nm of torque more than the CB650R. Although it also makes that 2,000 rpm lower. The CB650R has a lot more torque than most would imagine. It kinda feels like a mix of both. It has a good amount of midrange but also revs nice and high and keeps going to that screaming redline. It's nowhere near as punchy as an MT09 though. The engine on that is pretty vicious until you get used to it. Thanks for the comment!

[@MonsieurToffeln]

i have been waiting for this comparison. Thank you very much :)

[@liemlong4612]

Sounds to be a bit of a Honda fanboy. I was told by multiple people not to get the Honda and get the mt07 and haven't had a problem and all the Honda lads are generally jealous of my bike..

[@Englishbikerdan]

I was waiting for the 'fanboy' comment. I'm a fanboy because I point out the obvious issues with the Yamaha? Sure. 😂

[@NiSE_Rafter]

How is he being a Honda fanboy? He used to have an mt07 and is stating the differences he's noticed.

[@liemlong4612]

Yeah nah definitely a fanboy

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@liemlong4612 Sounds like a butthurt Yamaha fanboy to me 😂

[@Englishbikerdan]

@@NiSE_Rafter I wouldn't worry, a true fanboy loves a brand and ignores any issues. I think that's what is going on here with this guy. 👍

[@DA2THFA1RY]

The MT 07 sounds better so it wins by default 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Alex Simpson that’s purely subjective.......

[@Englishbikerdan]

Haha, it does sound good with a pipe.

[@MrFelipe8686]

How about XSR700 vs the CB?

[@KickStandUp.]

ahh cant wait to get my cb650r from the dealer!

[@alasdairmathieson4130]

Same! i have a week to wait and its killing me!

[@KickStandUp.]

@@alasdairmathieson4130 what color are you getting? and any mods?

[@alasdairmathieson4130]

@@KickStandUp. The matt blue and just a tail tidy just now, looking to get an exhaust system when I've saved the money. What about you?

[@KickStandUp.]

@@alasdairmathieson4130 I went with red , paid for a full akra system , tail tidy kit and also a rear seat cowl . Gonna install them myself cause it will save me money . Plus I'll get some bar end mirrors soon !

[@alasdairmathieson4130]

@@KickStandUp.everything you've listed is what I want haha pretty sure that is where all my money is going over the next 3 months. When you getting your new baby?

[@nickmendoza1140]

Can you do a video of your helmet vlog setup?

[@whyowhy4571]

*Ain't nothing sweeter than inline 4* *Doesn't matter it's a 250cc inline 4 like CBR 250rr in 90s or 1000cc like 1000rr*

[@TrendingHeadlinesTV]

why o why i had the 250 inline 4 in 1989 when I lived in Japan for a couple yrs; awesome bike it was! I just wish Kawasaki would make an in-line 4 300 or 400.

[@izr1t3]

@@TrendingHeadlinesTV wasn't there a Kawasaki concept of a 4 cyl 250cc Ninja that was recently made?

[@prof.2248]

Honda is new model but Yamaha is much lighter 20 kg , and much more fun factor. I would chose MT07 model 2020, Honda is heavy and don't have mid range at all, good bike for commuting.

[@kutguy]

Exactly why I am going for mt07. And the price difference is like 1200 Euros here in Spain

[@mandriva2117]

I like sv650 (´・ω・`)

[@billjackson3642]

I have 1999 naked sv650, its got lots of mods but the two that make the biggest difference are upgraded suspension and HH brake pads, I think any generation of the sv is the best middleweight street bike but not the gladius it was too cramped and ugly :)

[@JohnnieV]

for only 600 pounds more the honda is way better.. why but the mt07 for less power .. less quality, etc.. if im paying 6000 whats another 600 more?

[@Mikael2650]

I owned the Mt-07 for a year, and I wasn’t pleased in the long term. I missed power after 5-6000 rpm and I lost total interest in riding. But after I bought a used GSXS 750 from 17’ I found my love for riding again.

[@hathaway.1166]

Mikael2650 I was picking between the XSR700 (same engine as the MT07) or the CB650R, would you recommend the CB?

[@Mikael2650]

@@hathaway.1166 Honestly no. I would rather buy a used bike for the same price with a little more power. I have 4 different bikes. Kawasaki 750z. hp. 106 KTM 390 Duke. hp. 44 Yamaha mt-07. hp. 80 Suzuki gsxs 750. hp. 114 I had the Duke for 5 years. It's so fun too ride and the only thing I missed was some more power at the top. My gsxs gives me the hole package. It looks good and so easy to ride.

[@KayvonGz]

Lol, L.

[@stuart6756]

Get a Triumph. Only pissing about. Just get a bike.Good luck.

[@Englishbikerdan]

All bikes are fun anyway!

[@ktkace]

Didn't know of the swingarm and piping rust issues ! Thanks ! Btw I will definitely get a 2nd hand 07 and farkle with the suspension and brakes as I'm a comfort junkie. PS. I do find th 19 version of the 07 to be much less comfortable at the tank and tigh areas...

[@ggrandcz]

I always thought it is made of aluminium. Uff!

[@billgoldbergmania]

I had one for 2 years, commuted on it year round and there was no rust. Corrosion on the hoses was definitely an issue but that's on a lot of bikes.

[@gamwpanagia]

@@ggrandcz where do you live? I bet its gonna corrode like crazy here in the Mediterranean

[@ernielinatan1349]

4 cylinder vs 2 cylinder. i go for honda

[@JWbabyshark]

Thanks for this video. I'm going to buy my first bike soon. I couldn't figure out all the good and bad between the two bikes. This helped me out a lot.

[@sammehat]

I walked into the dealership today thinking I was going to purchase an MT 07. I did tons of research on it for months. But when I layed my eyes on the Honda CB650R, I knew it was the bike for me. Best of luck on your decision. Both bikes are amazing!

[@JWbabyshark]

@@sammehat Thanks. Please let me know how it handles.

[@JWbabyshark]

@@sammehat how is the braking on the MT-07???

[@sammehat]

@@JWbabyshark I haven't riden the MT-07 unfortunately. But my Honda CB650R is getting delivered today. Can't wait!

[@JWbabyshark]

@@sammehat Have fun and be safe. Please keep us updated. Can you do a video on it after a week or so riding it?

[@zachp7603]

The cb is more refined however, you can't beat the fun and riding experience of the mt07. I'm not sure there is any other bike that is more fun and enjoyable to ride. I rode both and though the choice would be tough I'd go with the Mt. Cbr650r is a different story though, it wins because of the looks. Hard choice though... But considering the price difference I'm not sure the Mt 07 can be beaten.

[@Englishbikerdan]

Agreed, MT is still a very fun bike!

[@adibyasin5495]

The only part i dislike on my brand new MT-07 is only the suspension...is too squishy even they have stiffen them for the new model...hopefully if there is MKIII for MT-07 equips with USD fork, i would certainly upgrade to it

[@SirLoinofBeef235]

The aftermarket preload adjusters on e-bay help a lot with the squish and aftermarket clip-on bars drop you about 4" at the wrist, totally changing the feel "dropping into" a turn on the twisties without twisting you so out of shape such as on a yzfr6

[@arkadiusw.897]

@@SirLoinofBeef235 Guess I need to upgrade mine

[@robiulahmed]

Maybe I'm weird, but I was getting confused because the blue bike wasn't a Yamaha!

[@Englishbikerdan]

Yeah, I didn't have an MT07 to film at the time nor did I have any footage. First comparison vid though so I learnt a few things.

[@kimmis15]

One week from today i get my bike :D

[@kimmis15]

Do you know anything or did you not care about break in period? :D