ENNEAGRAM VS MBTI (clearing up the confusion)

[@susannahernandez7185]

Both types can’t change. People don’t understand the MBTI but you’re right! It’s about cognitive functions and basically how our brains are wired! That does NOT change, it just develops. Like someone could look like a different type if they have not developed and become secure. I LOVE both. I didn’t understand the enneagram for A LONG time but understanding that enneagram is about your underlying motivations, your desires, etc helped. I’m an ENTP in the MBTI and a 7w8 enneagram. My MBTI helped me understand how to communicate with people effectively and understand why people perceive me as cold and callous when to my core I’m warm. But the enneagram helped me understand how my upbringing affected me and the things I have to overcome because of my upbringing. But it’s because of my cognitive functions (MBTI - ENTP) that helped me understand how crucial it was to understand my emotions (Enneagram 7w8).

[@enneagramandcoaching]

This is Fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Both systems have such great things about them.

[@kh2716]

Suzanna you have absolutely nailed it here! Spot on.

[@toribarron8937]

I knew my MBTI before my enneagram. The Myers-Briggs is how I got into Psychology.

[@Daria-cq8zi]

Same!

[@mariab.8307]

I’m a type 5 and I prefer MBTI too - it’s more helpful and specific for me as an INTP. maybe it’s a type 5 thing haha

[@enneagramandcoaching]

So interesting. My brother is a 5 and prefers the MBTI too!

[@rinvarga6366]

Thank you for talking about this! I love how they can both be used hand-in-hand or separately based on what you're looking for--I'm an INFP who recently discovered I'm probably an Enneagram 4, not an Enneagram 9. I learned about MBTI first but as soon as I discovered people were also connecting it to Enneagram, I wanted to learn about both to see how they can fill in each other's blind spots! I love & understand learning about the cognitive functions because it helped me understand that people's psyches want to balance themselves out, so all the "faults/flaws" I was seeing in myself throughout school and my first jobs outside of art were actually tied to specific strengths, and it told me what/how I could balance my personality better to achieve the results I want. I love the Enneagram because it helped me understand why I am the way I am and what drives me to fulfill what my soul needs to live a happy lifestyle! I know much more about MBTI than I do Enneagram, and I do believe our type doesn't change--it just depends on our stage of development, how much work we've put into developing our inferior functions, and if we gain more insight about ourselves as we discover more on our personal growth journey. MBTI can also go deeper into things like grip stress and our "loop" when our psych is trying and failing to balance itself through our hidden cognitive functions (much like the Enneagram's stress number). If you use your top functions too much, they can burn out and you become forced to rely on functions that you have little to no practice using in a healthy way, causing you to seem like a different type or exhibit traits contradictory to your true nature.

[@pianolover84]

I'm a type 2, ISFJ. I relate more to and prefer the Enneagram. Both are super interesting and helpful to me!

[@sarahcampbell3440]

I am a Type 9 on the Enneagram and an ISFJ. I lean more towards the Enneagram as it helps me understand why I am the way I am more and teaches me how to show up and be me!

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Yes!!!! Love this! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@HeyokaCat_8]

INFJ 4w5 here. I understand the MBTI more, and I am trying to learn about the Enneagram.

[@godmode3611]

Mbti is also good for personal growth. And Keirsey Temperaments also gives explanations on the why. Linda Berens even call them Core Motivators.

[@enneagramandcoaching]

I’ll have to go look this up!

[@chericeri]

I did a couple of MBTI tests a long time ago, but the results never really resonated with me, although admittedly I didn't do any further research. Whereas when I first did an enneagram test the results seemed to see straight into my soul, and the more I researched the more I felt like it knew me on a really deep level! I've been meaning to try MBTI again but it's a little intimidating to get into because there's so many types. So for now I definitely prefer the enneagram :D

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Yes! The Enneagram does that. LOL

[@1er1s]

i’m pretty sure i’m an isfp 1w9, but i’m still learning everything. it’s very interesting to me and your videos have been a big part in helping me understand it all! thank you so much 💕

[@jaremy511]

I am an ENTJ on the MB and an Enneagram 3w2 SO/SP. I think that they are tools for different things. There obviously can be some overlap, but I agree that if you are talking about internal discovery and knowing yourself better, then the enneagram is more useful. This is where I'm at currently. But, I used the Myers-Briggs for years and I think it did a good job at figuring out how I interact with the world. It was more about the patterns of my choices. Now, why I made those choices was never apparent to me until I learned more about the enneagram.

[@fernandadealencar1158]

I like both, the more information I have the better.

[@intuitiveeatingmama]

I have been typed by both but it wasn’t until the enneagram that I felt empowered and positive about my personality (type 3). Such good food for thought in this video!

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Yes! Love this!

[@parkinson5925]

Hi Jennifer! I wasn't sure of my type and was questioning it. When I watched your interview with Hillary I could instantly FEEL the moment you resounded with your Type 3 and I just burst into tears because I could just feel how liberating that realization was for you and what a huge moment it was for you to accept and own yourself without any second-guessing...it was such a sweet moment....then I stopped doubting I was a 2 and owned that I feel everyone's emotions all the time, lol. Thank you so much for being on her channel and doing that interview it really helped me so much!

[@intuitiveeatingmama]

@@parkinson5925 I am so happy you shared this! I can still feel into the moment I KNEW I was a 3 and that I did not have to fight it. It was such a game changer for me. It speaks to Hillary's amazing coaching and what happens when we fully embrace who we are. She also came on my podcast if you want to hear my interview with her anywhere you love podcasts or at www.healthcoach4life.com/blog/all-about-the-enneagram-with-hillary-mccaskey/

[@milaalaniva775]

My dominant function is Fe (which I don't think changes 😉). ENFJ. I still go between 2w3 or 3w2. Social without a doubt.

[@Jessicaunarex]

INFJ 4w5. Interesting story I have about learning my MB. Back in the 90s there were no tests, so I read and assumed I was INFP but something felt off. I never even read the J section-so never thought I could be INFJ-I assumed Js were annoying, anal-retentive, etc. LOL MB is cognitive function but not much else. I have known Type 1, 9, 3, 6 and 4 who are all INFJ. Or to quote another E-gram coach, ‘If you want to know how great you are read MB. If you want to know what a jerk you are, read the E-gram.’

[@kirknessfamily]

I am INFJ type 9.

[@enneagramandcoaching]

I’m dying over that 😂😂😂 it’s so true!

[@trustyourself-ashleyching3646]

Cognitive functions within your MBTI can be more developed with time, so the behavior can look different with time. However, the overall MBTI of those cog functions actually stays the same through time, I believe.

[@13thravenpurple94]

Great work 🥳🥳🥳 Thank youuuuuu 💜💜💜

[@amelialickey]

That’s interesting... I’m a type 9, and when I was younger, I also read nonstop 😂. It took me a long time to figure out my type. I’m an INFP, which is very focused on improving the world, so I thought I was a type 1 for a while. What is your Myers Briggs?

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Really?!?! It’s a great escape. I’m a ISFP. Thanks for sharing!

[@caitlin_star]

@@enneagramandcoaching I'm a 9 and ISFP too!

[@eleonore-8969]

I'm type 9 and also INFP and also loved reading when I was younger. Now age 30 I lean more towards watching series and movies(even though I still love it when I find the courage to pick up a book). I can get really sucked up in books or tv. I very much need it to block out the real world at some moments! Even if I'm really tired, I still watch someting to calm down before sleep.

[@ktbug8a2]

HealthyLifeHealthySoul i thought I was a type 2

[@nattive7493]

Infp and type 9 as well☺️

[@invadertifxiii]

ive always felt torn between infj and intj

[@JanaylovesLearningandArt9672]

I use both along with reading gifted and talented, twice exceptional, learning disabilities, trauma, IQ, EQ, spirituality, Christian, fiction and non fiction, and psychology books. I'm an INFJ enneagram 9w1 self preservation instinctual type. My enneagram tritype is 926 sp/so.

[@fuzzyslippers820]

I’m more familiar with MBTI, but am diving in and learning about both at the moment. I think both are good for personal growth if used that way. Personally, finding my MBTI type was way easier and instantly resonated with my life. I am an ENFP and struggling to find my enneagram type (wavering between and 4 sp or a 7). Using the cognitive functions for personal growth can help you realized how and what to develop in order to be more balanced and healthy. More information has been coming out recently about how to develop each types’ function stack and the best order to do that.

[@enneagramandcoaching]

I have been doing more research into the MBTI and I find it fascinating and helpful. I agree both are great for personal growth. And the Sp 4 can look like a 7 at times which doesn’t make finding your type easier. Thank you for sharing a part of your journey! I loved reading about you 😃

[@kelseykovac8117]

I’m an ESFP and a 7w6. I love both the Enneagram and Myers-Briggs. I think the Enneagram is easier to understand, but I knew my Myers-Briggs type before I ever looked into the Enneagram.

[@enneagramandcoaching]

I would totally agree. I knew about MBTI before the Enneagram but the Enneagram is easier for me to understand too. Thanks for sharing!

[@matmajthm3222]

ISTJ 6w5 so/sx here. Good video.

[@ryenwthomas]

Great breakdown.

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Thanks Ryen!

[@twinsterz6782]

I am an INFJ 4w5. I've taken MBTI numerous times over the past 20 years and am an INFJ every time. As an Enneagram 4, my desire is to be seen and understood. I have never felt more understood than I do when reading about strengths and weaknesses of an INFJ. Ennegream also gets me, but to a lesser extent. My personality overlaps so strongly with traits from several other types that it has left me feeling like Ennegram is too generalized. I understand that there are wings, countertypes, triads, etc., but this feels like an overcomplicated way to explain that everyone can be everything depending on the situation. However, both tests are successful in the sense that they empower people to learn more about themselves and others. To each their own.

[@Kobasghost]

Infp 5w6

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Awesome!

[@matt-603]

I’m a INTJ. I knew about my MBTI prior to knowing my enneagram. So I’m a 6w5 INTJ. In the MBTI community, people do talk about the enneagram..I don’t believe it changes either, some people can just mistype on occasions.

[@skidibidup]

MBTI jungian functions never change

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Thank you!

[@kirknessfamily]

What is your MBTI? I know that we are both E9s so I am really curious. Im an INFJ. I find it really interesting that people can be the same Enneagram number but have different MBTIs or vice versa.

[@enneagramandcoaching]

ISFP- and I totally agree with you! It’s so fascinating.

[@lindsayboss7522]

@@enneagramandcoaching Girl loooooove how authentic you are! Love too how you inspire & invite people to be their true selves! Keep up the inspiring videos, Hillary!

[@rebekahproper4206]

Type 1w2 ISFJ

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Awesome!

[@lolagomez7130]

INFJ 9w8. Is It posible?

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Yes...some Meyers Briggs/enneagram types don’t always seem like they can go together but this can be a combo. Here is something I came across about the INFJ Nines -They have the potential to be some of the greatest spiritual seekers of their time. Visionary, imaginative, and insightful, their strengths come naturally to INFJs. They are typically very in touch with their intuition and feeling functions - foreseeing possible conflicts, sensing emotional turmoil and pain in others, and listening with insight and understanding.

[@TrueSunara]

I have a good friend that is a INFJ 9w1. I actually think INFJ fits in more as a 9. I've discovered that popular opinion thinks they seem more like 4s? I tend to lean toward thinking of INFP when I think 4.

[@Carol75221]

I'm the classic ENTP 7w8

[@peli8luca]

I'm an INFJ-T and I'm a type 4 wing 3 but I'm really newbie to enneagram so maybe not...

[@enneagramandcoaching]

I have a playlist for the Type 4 kzbin.info/aero/PLuRA-QFXKKNQqIi8GCAqludr5ZPraInbr Watch a few of these and be thinking about what your motivation is. ❤️

[@peli8luca]

@@enneagramandcoaching okay, thank you so much ^^

[@enneagramandcoaching]

You’re so welcome!

[@AnnieDash]

Me too, Luca!

[@ryenwthomas]

They say MBTI type doesn’t change either.

[@gabrielaalves3160]

According to the theory Myers Briggs can never change, but some discuss that if a traumatic event happened that would be possible some say even there it doesn’t. I like both communities and I think people even accept the enneagram changing better than the mbti. Another thing if the mbti could change I would be changes on types with the same functions, for example if you are an ENFP (Ne, Fi, Te, Si) some agree that after a traumatic event you could turn to an infp (Fi, Ne, Si, Te) but probably never for example to an ISTP (Ti, Se, Ni, Fe) But I think most people agree that it doesn’t change

[@enneagramandcoaching]

This is awesome. Thanks for sharing.

[@scrappymama1]

thanks! not familiar with myers briggs. what is your MB type?

[@enneagramandcoaching]

ISFP

[@scrappymama1]

I took the mb test , came backs as Istj logistician. I'll stick to my 9, lol.

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Elaine Sigmon LoL!

[@shannen271]

Your MBTI type cannot change. You may sometimes feel like a different type because of something similar to growth vs stress in enneagram. In socionics this is called the 4 sides of the mind theory where when you are unhealthy, you portray a different type in your subconscious or unconscious. INFP 9w1 here and I use and love both theories. Sometimes it's hard to get your hands on good info about MBTI though, especially if you are just googling a type and it can make it seem inaccurate. I find this true for enneagram too though. Socionics, or socionics paired with MBTI is really the only way to get the most out of the MBTI theory.

[@melissagraham7736]

I'm new to the Enneagram, I think I'm a type 8. But I am also an INFJ... Which those don't seem like a very likely pair. So I struggle a bit with this. Before someone says it, yes, I am sure I am an INFJ. I know it's the most common mistype. I have studied the cognitive functions and I know INFJ is what I am. Is it possible to be INFJ and an 8? If so how?

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Why do you think you couldn’t t be a INFJ and an 8? I was listening to a teaching from Suzanne Stabile (amazing enneagram teacher) and she said all types can be any combos of the MBTI. And the type 8w7 vs 8w9 are so different plus you add the subtypes (videos coming soon) so it could make sense that your an 8 and INFJ.

[@袖時雨桜花-h5y]

INFP 5w4 here. And this is gonna get long (it's what we, INFPs, do best lol). I understand my MBTI from the second I read the results of the online test's description. I think the MBTI is more like a gateway to all of the personalilty typing stuff. For the enneagram, in my case it's still an '"I think I'm this type" kind of situation.' Just because I think I'm one way, will not mean I'm right. So, I've been recently asking people "around" me, especially my family (whether a 5 "really" has people around them besides their family is a different story), for some kind of reference (which maybe not sound like a type 5 for sure). Which, has seemed to make my family all annoyed because of me constantly asking questions about my personality traits. Also I still can't decide because a 4w5 is more likely than a 5w4 for the INFP (same with the INTP. INFP and INTP are siblings like the 4 and 5 are). I don't really think a care about my identity that much. I mean identity is totally important, you NEED or (I should say) HAVE one but when you compare it with knowledge it's a "no" for me. Were as for Miss Universe, or should I say knowledge, you NEED it, you NEEEEED knowledge for everything, ANYTHING!!! "No matter what you are, you're you. No one can change that. So what is there to worry about? 🤷‍♀️" is how I think for identity. "Knowledge, AHHHH knowledge. The mother of everything. The winning cup for human evolution, revolution, sivilization, and much more. It's 'history.' ☺️" is what I think for knowledge. So... am I a 4 or a 5?

[@raem7287]

I think what Meyers briggs and enneagram have in common is that your type doesn't change....BUT if you take either test multiple times, then you can possibly get different results just because tests are never the golden rule. I think for both personality theories, if you are REALLY serious in knowing your type for both theories you need to take the time to read each personality type description if taking the test alone doesn't work for you. Like enneagram we all have a little bit of each 9 types in us.... Same as Meyers briggs. We all have a little bit of E, I, N, S, F, and T but it's the matter of which 4 letters you use more like if you're right handed or left handed. I can write and throw a ball with my left hand but I'm clearly better at doing those things with my right hand. I think it's easier to guess an acquaintance's myers briggs type than their enneagram because myers briggs deals with how you react to the world while enneagram is about your motivation and fears and most people wouldn't be able to guess that unless you get to know someone on a deeper level. Specialist for both theories say that you can type children but personally, I would hold off on typing my future kids until they reach high school because I'd want them to develop their personality more without any influences but tbh ill still probably secretly guess their type in my head and wait to see if I guess right many years later lol

[@gabrielaalves3160]

Great video but you ended up not saying your mbti? Do you know it? 🤔

[@enneagramandcoaching]

ISFP - thank you!

[@gabrielaalves3160]

Hillary McCaskey uhh ISFP 9w8 a classic 😁

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Gabriela Alves LOL!

[@Celebok]

Personally, I get why some people prefer the Enneagram over MBTI, particularly those who have a hard time figuring out their MBTI type and find the cognitive functions too confusing. But the problem I see happening is that they end up trying to use the Enneagram as the answer to everything, when certain things could be better explained by preferred functions or other things. People in the Type 9 groups do this all the time. They talk about difficulties that they as 9's have with 8's or 3's or 6's in their lives, and I immediately identify their issues as thinker vs. feeler differences, or judger vs. perceiver differences. Or they somehow think there's a connection between their Enneagram type and stuff like ADHD or anxiety or sleep disorders. Like they expect other people of their same Enneagram type to experience all the same difficulties that they experience. Okay, I better stop ranting. (I already made a video about this a while back.)

[@enneagramandcoaching]

LOL. I can see this. I’ll have to watch your rant video 😂

[@Celebok]

@@enneagramandcoaching Oh, haha... if you want to watch the video I was talking about, it's from January 2019, titled, "Those Aren't Enneagram Nine Things".

[@lorrielee885]

I don't really understand the MBTI. I took the test and I am an ENFP according to that. My Enneagram type is a social 7w6. I've spent a lot more time learning about the Enneagram...It was my family's COVID hobby...and then I was hooked on learning all I could about it. So which MBTI are you?

[@enneagramandcoaching]

ISFP - love that the Enneagram became your family’s Covid hobby!

[@melindabardill1465]

MBTI doesn't change per say. My limited understanding is MB is linear. I imagine a line and directly in the middle is zero. One side is I the other E. You will fall somewhere on that line the closer to middle you are the easier it is to have commonalities and the further away less likely. As we grow, age, mature we learn to develop our lesser skills/traits thus moving us closer to the center. My understanding is one typically doesn't cross the 0 mark without trauma. Some cam be very close to the middle. This person can be conflicted and/ or well balanced. In this specific trait.

[@Calebeqz]

Is your INTP by any chance? Most INTPs are 5s on enneagram

[@WackadoodleMalarkey]

I would type you as a ESFJ/A, [I'm INTJ/T 9w1sx] and if that rings true I think I just unlocked my sister inlaw's type which will be a dandy guide indeed in subsequent family get togethers! [Which have improved greatly since the enneagram's guidance on my role as pacemaker rather than just peacekeeper have been implemented!] Mbti is good for answering "just what is going on inside that head of theirs" inquiries and enneagram is great for when someone grabs you by the collar and gives a good shake exclaiming "what is your major malfunction numbnuts!?" 😸

[@WackadoodleMalarkey]

I had to cut my saga short before I get yelled at for loafing around again. So this wasn't my dumptruck but my beat up ol' Subaru dropoff. Stay in your 3!😸

[@enneagramandcoaching]

I’m an ISFP. A lot of people think I’d have the E. you had me laughing!!!! Thanks for sharing!

[@rochgosselin7394]

Love ... Thanks.. I m discovering your channel ... Be kind .. I love mbti and enneagram ... Estj type6 sx/sp ... I also have a vanlife + foraging im Canada.. Looking forward to go back in Oaxaca to my vanlife and studies there ... How we interact ...? I m a follower now ... Community right ..;)

[@enneagramandcoaching]

So awesome! Love this!

[@francesca.pellegrino]

All the theory I’ve read on Myers-Briggs say it cannot change, but I call BS on that. My MB shifts based on the situation, but My regular state is INTx.

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Thanks for sharing! I’m learning so much.

[@trustyourself-ashleyching3646]

Some people say you access your other preference in the dichotomy depending on the situation 🤔

[@KaMi-gz1il]

The MBTI is supposed to change over time, even in the most popular website 16personalities.com they recommend to take the test with a minimum of 6 months of space and they record your results in chronological order. I also first knew about my MBTI type but when I got to know about the Enneagram I really felt that was the missing piece I was not getting with the other test. Like with the enneagram you get to see the roots of why you are the way you are and not only how you decide to address and react to situations. You have no idea for how long I thought there was something wrong with me as I never saw parties or social gatherings as my way to have fun, like I enjoy it but only with specific people I know very well. Also, gossiping about people or always thinking about what people think about me was another thing I never cared about as other people around me. It was until I knew about the enneagram when I understood... I was like “oh okay, there are other people like me over there” haha now I know preferring to be alone is normal and not a glitch in my brain (I’m a 5).

[@DringBling]

16p test is so inaccurate. The MBTI community really are against this test.

[@KaMi-gz1il]

dring bling totally agree!

[@DringBling]

@@KaMi-gz1il I feel like your being sarcastic 😂

[@enneagramandcoaching]

Thank you for sharing. I’m so sad you thought something was wrong with you. So happy you now know your not alone and that other people are just like you. My son (Type 5) sounds similar to you!