Ep 287: Dr. Jagman Gurung | Kirat History, Newars, Monarchy | Sushant Pradhan Podcast

[@roshanshah6209]

One and only Nepalipodcast which talks about knowledge , information, history, work , real politics…. Hats off for sushant pradhan…

[@Sar0jkarki]

Agree ❤

[@manzil7148]

Totally agree 👍

[@cheltooktribefreethinker1028]

Wad historic events did he said true.

[@mukpagrg5426]

He is baun not gurung totally misinformation

[@rajibchitrakar2679]

90% wrong information.

[@anishghimire5988]

Best thing about him is he speaks without hesitation. He doesn't speak in diplomatic language to please some groups or ideologies. He speaks what he knows.

[@sushantrijal58]

0:50

[@ramgurung8516]

जयि सुने पनि सुनौं सुनौ लाग्ने guest ल्याउनु भएकोमा host लाई धन्यवाद।❤👍️

[@yagyashakya8802]

यति धेरै कुरा जानकारी लिने माैका दिनु भएकाेमा श्रद्वय संस्कृतविद गुरू जगमान गुरूलाई साधुवाद छ । साथै कार्यक्रम प्रस्ताेता ज्युलाई पनि धेरै धेरै धन्यवाद ।

[@aashish2216]

I guess he is the one of most renowned person to know nepal and tantra ! I would like to see next episode with him

[@chulidadanirmansewa1062]

Thank u bhao❤❤.. For u r josh to get to know about our culture..

[@sadhuramkhadka5560]

जगमान गुरुङ ज्यू नमस्कार हजुर ले गरेका कुरा धेरै राम्रो छन यि सबै जनताले बुझ्ने छन । हामी सबैले आफ्नो कम्र गर्नु पर्दछ नमस्कार।

[@hemantthapa715]

बुद्धिमान ब्यक्तिको शोच वास्तविक तथा प्राय सुन्दर हुन्छ। सायद जगमान गुरुङ्ग ज्युको शास्त्र अध्यनको कारणले होला कति सुन्दर र वास्तविक छ। त्यसैले अति मन पर्छ। जगमान ज्युको सर्वदा जय होस।

[@rajibchitrakar2679]

Tapai pani shastra study garnus na.

[@princemaharjan5315]

His potentency hasn't been explored yet .. He's a wide ocean of knowledge .. i would like to request you to make hiss call for tantric podcasts coz He's the one who can outtell every one abot tantra in deep .. Tantra . Tantra

[@ananathsapkota2032]

डा,जगमान गुरुको, सिद्धान्त र भनाईमा सत्येता र दम् छ हैँ समयछँदै सबै नागरिक निन्द्रा बाट बिऊँजिन जरुरि छ नत्र आफ्नो अस्तित्व गुमाउन् र बिदेशीको गुलामी गर्न तयार हुनुहोस् सबै नागरिक हरु चेतना भया

[@chancepaayokigarchha3663]

Dr. Jagman Gurung...!! The most intellectual person of Nepal.

[@rameshbista6016]

जगमान गुरुङ प्रखर विद्वान बाट धेरै राम्रा कुरार इतिहास को ज्ञान सुन्नपाइयो ।दुबै जनालाइ धेरै धन्यवाद ।

[@rakeshmanandhar1815]

आदरणीय डा जगमान गुरुङ प्रति नमन💐🙏💐नेपाल का संस्कृतिविद् तथा ईतिहास विद जिवित ईतिहास प्रति फेरिपनि आमनेपाली जनताकाे तर्फबाट💐🙏💐 नमन

[@sushilghimire6944]

आज पाहुना चै चिनेरै ल्याको देखियो। सस्कृतीबिद डा जगमान गुरुङ जसले धर्म र सस्कृतिको बारेमा यति ज्ञान राख्नुहुन्छ कि उहाँ संग धेरै अन्तरबार्ता गरेर अभिलेख सङ्ग्रह गर्नु अपरिहार्य छ।

[@YonjanRaja]

😂😂😂😂😂😂टपरे को झोले हो केही थाहा छैन ! चन्दने हो गुरुङ भन्दानि😁😁😁

[@GreenMile99-es4kn]

@@YonjanRajatai bhotay le mannay Buddha ne Hindu nai thyo ne 😅

[@NiranjanMalakar]

He explain totally wrong about Sur and Asur. He just explains according to sankrit language but we have to go beyond sanskrit language to Pali Prakrit language. Listen to Linguist Rajendra Prashad Singh. According to him, ashu means means pragya/knowledge in Pali Prakrit language. Ashur means Pragyani/ Knowledgeable person.

[@alishbista1748]

​@@NiranjanMalakar bhai rajendra parsad singh vhai kailay bata linguist bhaye? 😂

[@rajibchitrakar2679]

@@NiranjanMalakar lato desh ma gado tanneri vaneko yehi ho.

[@thedangolfamily]

सस्कृतीबिद डा. जगमान गुरुङ जसले धर्म र सस्कृतिको अन्तरबार्ता गरेर अभिलेख सङ्ग्रह गर्नु अपरिहार्य छ, प्रखर विद्वान बाट धेरै राम्रा कुरा र इतिहास को ज्ञान सुन्नपाइयो, प्रखर विद्वान बाट धेरै राम्रा कुरा र इतिहास को ज्ञान सुन्नपाइयो ! 🙏 धन्यवाद ।

[@RSGumante]

Bro dangol lai bhumi putra bhanera makkha bhako jasto xha

[@tankalimbu4808]

जगत मान गुरुले लिम्बुवानको इतिहास याक्थुङ लिम्बुको मुन्धुम भुगोलको बरेमा अनबिग्य देखियो

[@Chillvibe9]

Thank you Sushant bringing Dr Jagman Gurung… Uha ko naam lida pani ma garva mahasus garchu….. thank you ton again

[@cheltooktribefreethinker1028]

Converted grg. In the grg community he is out in losar events too.

[@roshanayer3795]

I personally feel so happy knowing that there are still many youths who are really interested in history ,culture, mythology, spirituality and Nationalism like myself. I believe we can change the things in our country for betterment and make it prosperous again by our collective effort. Shout out to Sushant bro, Dr. Jagman gurung and all the supporters out there, Jaya hos 🕉️.

[@GangaSapkota-n8f]

सुसान्त प्रधान जी लाई दौरा शुरुवाल अत्यन्त राम्रो शुहाउदो रहेछ, कृपया आगामी सबै कार्यक्रममा दौरा शुरुवाल लगाएर आउनुहोस। हार्दिक अनुरोध।

[@neeshamkhadka]

इतिहासकार jagman gurung जि ले सत्य कुरा गर्नु भयो 😊

[@suzanranjitkar1504]

दर्शन गुरु धेरै इच्छा , चाहना थ्यो गुरु लाई podcast पाहुना मा हेर्ने पूरा भयो 🙏

[@ashishrai1076]

रमाईलो लाग्यो बाजे संगको पोडकास्ट, जय जय माँ कामाख्या, जय श्री काल भैरव, जय नेपाल

[@exodus_np]

Jai Kamrupa Kamakhya, Jai Shri Bhairav Baba, Jai Nepal 🔱

[@mukpagrg5426]

Dhoti

[@exodus_np]

@@mukpagrg5426 ta muji tibetian bhote

[@shebarana7604]

Very interesting! Please change your voice tone, you sound not interested and unfriendly.

[@keepfightinggg3904]

This podcast was like touching the titles. Please bring him again and elaborate about our ancient history.More ancients and untouched topics can be extracted from him.

[@mukpagrg5426]

Manang,mustang pokhara lamjung bhote bhasa sanga mildo juldo huncha Gurung bhasa arkai huncha har regions ma. Pokharama bhote camp chha teha gayera sabdako artha try gara

[@baghbangsikirat2545]

राईहरुको धामी नक्छो वा नाछुङ अझैपनी बाघ को रुप धारण गर्छन।

[@Gangadahal6945]

डा.जगमान गुरुङ्को ज्युको विष्लेशन असाध्यै राम्रोछ । यस्तो ईतिहास विज्ञ नेपालमा पाउन दुर्लभछ । राजा र रङ्कको मात्र ईतिहास विद नभै सम्पुर्ण जातजातिका साथै धर्म र संस्कृतिको पनि विद्वान हुनाले वहाँको सुखी जिवनको कामना गर्दछु। ॐनम:शिवाय

[@nayanmgr6981]

omg he has knowledge about so many things, i genuinely believe our respected dr jagman grg has alot to offer, i have been fascinated with all this topics because he talks with so much truth and common sense. sushant jee these topics are ever green topic for your podcast. and if i were you i would have invited him for more future podcast in the topic of tantra itself and about the dev/deties and these are only one of the topics among so many topics you guys have touched upon. these type of knowledge is very rare and he seems to have a lot to share about it. jagman sir was so good in this podcast im so much attracted to his confidence with calm while speaking in these topics. it seemed to me that sushant jee was a little bit tensed through the podcast

[@bobbysharma132]

Candid guest who always spreads the knowledge of our beautiful Nepali culture. Such a great heritage and wide and rich culture. What a great assimilation. Our Stantan culture where we accumulate all cultures to be proud Nepali where Newar offer eeg to Ganesha and bahun also pray the same idol even though in fasting without hesitation as we accept this as coexistence 🙏🏽❤️😇.

[@NiranjanMalakar]

It seems most of Bajrayan Buddhist's bodhisatva, Tara, avalokeswar, Dwarpal etc are/were annexed and made their oun GOD and Godesses. When we research deeply, most of Hindu God and Goddesses go to end on Bajrayan Iconography. SAD to see this truth for instance Gajamaya and Saraswati to Mayadevi, Shiva's red tread ends to Maheswar. one of Bajrayan avalokeswars etc etc.

[@alishbista1748]

​@@NiranjanMalakar lol, you basically accept everything told by the science journey.

[@bavitatamang6315]

Thank you for inviting him. Very knowledgeable and wise attribute put together.

[@thapapramod5531]

When everyone mocking him for his knowledge ask yourself what are you good at just laughing at his knowledge ?? He is pioneer of Nepal history.. yetaikai podcast ma bolaudaina he has good knowledge of culture of Nepal.

[@ghumnajaam]

Exactly ke ta aafai research garera bolnu haina ... Nepali le paye Indra lai ne swarga ko bayan gardinxa 😂😂

[@pratikking2272]

Why the Indigenous Status of Limbus Should Be RevokedThe question of indigenous status in Nepal is a contentious issue shaped by historical, cultural, and political factors. The Limbus, a community claiming indigenous status, lack substantial historical and archaeological evidence to support this designation. This essay argues that the indigenous status of Limbus should be reconsidered due to their migratory history from Sichuan to Tibet and later to Nepal, lack of historical artifacts, and manipulation of documents with colonial assistance.Historical and Archaeological VoidUnlike other indigenous groups in Nepal, such as the Lepcha, Bhutia, and Newar, who possess rich historical records, architectural landmarks, and cultural artifacts dating back centuries, the Limbus lack tangible evidence of ancient settlements, palaces, temples, or significant archaeological finds that would substantiate their claim as indigenous to the region. The absence of such evidence raises doubts about their historical ties to the land compared to other established indigenous communities.Migration PatternsHistorical records indicate that the Limbus migrated from Sichuan, China, to Tibet in the 13th century, and subsequently moved to Nepal in the late 16th century. These migrations, marked by geopolitical shifts and cultural exchanges, highlight their origins outside the current borders of Nepal. Unlike indigenous groups with deep-rooted ancestral ties to the region, the Limbus' migratory history suggests a more recent arrival, challenging their claim to indigenous status based on continuous presence and cultural continuity.Colonial Influence and Fabrication of DocumentsDuring the colonial era, particularly under British rule, the Limbus reportedly fabricated documents to bolster their indigenous claims. This manipulation, facilitated by colonial authorities, enabled them to assert a historical narrative and gain recognition as indigenous in certain administrative contexts. Such historical revisionism and document forgery undermine the integrity of their indigenous status claim, especially when compared to the rigorous criteria and historical authenticity required for indigenous recognition in other regions.Contemporary Status in SikkimIn neighboring Sikkim, the Limbus have lost their tribal status, indicating a recognition shift that reflects deeper scrutiny of their indigenous claims. This precedent underscores the inconsistencies and challenges associated with defining indigenous identity solely based on self-proclaimed historical narratives and manipulated documentation.

[@user2234yd]

@@pratikking2272 The assertion that the indigenous status of the Limbus should be revoked due to their migratory history, lack of historical artifacts, and alleged manipulation of documents is contentious and not universally accepted. The topic of indigenous status in Nepal is complex and involves various historical, cultural, and political dimensions. Here are some key points to consider: 1. Historical and Archaeological Evidence While archaeological evidence plays a crucial role in substantiating claims of indigeneity, the lack of such evidence does not necessarily invalidate the claims of a community. Indigenous status often also considers oral histories, cultural practices, and self-identification. The Limbus have a rich oral tradition and unique cultural practices that contribute to their identity. Historical Presence and Cultural Identity Oral History and Traditions: The Limbu community has a rich oral tradition, including folk tales, songs, and legends that have been passed down for generations. These traditions reflect the deep-rooted connection of the Limbus to their land and culture. Language and Script: The Limbu language, also known as "Yakthung Pan," is a Tibeto-Burman language with its own script, "Sirijonga." The existence of a distinct language and script is a strong indicator of a long-standing and unique cultural heritage. 2. Migration Patterns Migration histories are common among many indigenous groups worldwide. The Limbus' migration from Sichuan to Tibet and eventually to Nepal does not automatically disqualify them from being considered indigenous to Nepal. Many indigenous groups have histories of migration and resettlement due to various factors, including environmental changes, conflicts, and economic opportunities. 3. Colonial Influence and Documentation The claim that the Limbus manipulated documents with colonial assistance to assert their indigenous status needs substantial evidence. The colonial period was marked by various administrative changes and manipulations, but attributing indigenous status solely to colonial manipulation without comprehensive evidence can be misleading. It is essential to critically examine such claims and consider multiple sources and perspectives. 4. Contemporary Recognition The Limbus are recognized as one of the indigenous nationalities (Adivasi Janajati) in Nepal by the Nepal Federation of Indigenous Nationalities (NEFIN). This recognition is based on various criteria, including distinct language, culture, traditional homeland, and a sense of community. 5. Cultural and Archaeological Contributions Cultural Landmarks: While large archaeological monuments may not be prevalent, the Limbu community has significant cultural landmarks, including traditional Limbu houses, community spaces, and sacred sites. These contribute to the cultural landscape of the region. Festivals and Customs: Festivals such as Chasok Tangnam and unique customs like the practice of Mundhum (Limbu oral scriptures) showcase the rich cultural tapestry of the Limbu people.

[@user2234yd]

@@pratikking2272 The assertion that the indigenous status of the Limbus should be revoked due to their migratory history, lack of historical artifacts, and alleged manipulation of documents is contentious and not universally accepted. The topic of indigenous status in Nepal is complex and involves various historical, cultural, and political dimensions. Here are some key points to consider: 1. Historical and Archaeological Evidence While archaeological evidence plays a crucial role in substantiating claims of indigeneity, the lack of such evidence does not necessarily invalidate the claims of a community. Indigenous status often also considers oral histories, cultural practices, and self-identification. The Limbus have a rich oral tradition and unique cultural practices that contribute to their identity. Historical Presence and Cultural Identity Oral History and Traditions: The Limbu community has a rich oral tradition, including folk tales, songs, and legends that have been passed down for generations. These traditions reflect the deep-rooted connection of the Limbus to their land and culture. Language and Script: The Limbu language, also known as "Yakthung Pan," is a Tibeto-Burman language with its own script, "Sirijonga." The existence of a distinct language and script is a strong indicator of a long-standing and unique cultural heritage. 2. Migration Patterns Migration histories are common among many indigenous groups worldwide. The Limbus' migration from Sichuan to Tibet and eventually to Nepal does not automatically disqualify them from being considered indigenous to Nepal. Many indigenous groups have histories of migration and resettlement due to various factors, including environmental changes, conflicts, and economic opportunities. 3. Colonial Influence and Documentation The claim that the Limbus manipulated documents with colonial assistance to assert their indigenous status needs substantial evidence. The colonial period was marked by various administrative changes and manipulations, but attributing indigenous status solely to colonial manipulation without comprehensive evidence can be misleading. It is essential to critically examine such claims and consider multiple sources and perspectives. 4. Contemporary Recognition The Limbus are recognized as one of the indigenous nationalities (Adivasi Janajati) in Nepal by the Nepal Federation of Indigenous Nationalities (NEFIN). This recognition is based on various criteria, including distinct language, culture, traditional homeland, and a sense of community. 5. Cultural and Archaeological Contributions Cultural Landmarks: While large archaeological monuments may not be prevalent, the Limbu community has significant cultural landmarks, including traditional Limbu houses, community spaces, and sacred sites. These contribute to the cultural landscape of the region. Festivals and Customs: Festivals such as Chasok Tangnam and unique customs like the practice of Mundhum (Limbu oral scriptures) showcase the rich cultural tapestry of the Limbu people.

[@rajibchitrakar2679]

If Limbus came to Nepal from Tibet in 13th century they should have brought Buddhism with them.

[@DiptiRai7]

I started getting interested in our own history only after living an expat life in other countries and continents. This episode has been so enriching. Please continue the good work!

[@raveenshrestha]

Dear Sushant you are killing in, inviting such great idols. Keep it on man

[@razangurung3515]

Most awaited guest. I think you make couple of episodes with him.

[@mukpagrg5426]

Manang,mustang pokhara lamjung bhote bhasa sanga mildo juldo huncha Gurung bhasa arkai huncha har regions ma. Pokhara ma bhote camp cha gayera sabdako artha try garera aau ani thaha huncha

[@mukpagrg5426]

Manang,mustang pokhara lamjung bhote bhasa sanga mildo juldo huncha Gurung bhasa arkai huncha har regions ma. Pokharama bhote camp chha teha gayera sabdako artha try gara

[@UshaGurung-fz4wi]

Gurung vayera Hindu rastra ko mag Ali achama lagyo

[@RSGumante]

​@@mukpagrg5426point k ho bro ko?

[@gundashshrestha9562]

Excellent episode. This is why i follow your podcast. There should lots more things with him about Nepal history. I would like to watch another few episode with Dr. Jagman Gurung sir.

[@limbutikaram]

Jibit sakchhar historical ku ra prastai dinda , sapana bata big jhe jasto lagyo . Dherai Dharai sunne bujhne mauka paiyo. Pheri pani next episode herna sunna paiyos.thanks for this interesting interview with Dr Jagman.

[@sumanupreti1158]

Sir you are only my favourite podcaster ... I don't know how 2 hours spent already in all podcaste.... Too the content kura hunchha ... Aru podcaster ko jasto lyang lyang hudaina... And dherai kura ko bare ma aware huinxa .... ❤❤❤

[@RavishPatel-q2t]

How Iman Singh Chemjong Spread Hatred Against Madhesi, Lepcha, Bhutia, Khas, and Newars Introduction Iman Singh Chemjong, a contentious figure in the early 20th century, played a significant role in shaping the socio-political landscape of the Himalayan region. His actions and ideologies left a lasting impact on the ethnic and cultural dynamics of communities such as the Madhesis, Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas, and Newars. Chemjong's efforts to promote Christianity and his use of divisive tactics fostered hatred and mistrust among these groups. This essay explores how Chemjong spread animosity and division, particularly through his fabrication of the Kirat identity and derogatory terminology. The Fabrication of the Kirat Identity One of Chemjong's most notable contributions to social discord in the region was his construction of the Kirat identity. By linking the Limbus and Rais to the ancient Kirats, he attempted to create a distinct ethnic and cultural identity that would serve his broader agenda of Christianization. This fabricated identity was used to undermine and erase the historical significance of the Madhesi, Newars, and Khas people. Chemjong's strategy involved promoting the idea that the Kirats were the original inhabitants of the region, thereby delegitimizing the claims of other ethnic groups to the land and its history. This narrative not only served to elevate the Kirat identity but also to create a sense of alienation and resentment among other communities, particularly the Madhesis, who were portrayed as outsiders and intruders. Spreading Hatred Against Madhesis Chemjong's use of the term "Dhoti" as a derogatory label for Hindus, particularly those from the Indo-Gangetic plains, was a significant aspect of his divisive tactics. The term "Dhoti" was used to demean and humiliate the Madhesi community, fostering a sense of inferiority and alienation. This racial slur contributed to the growing animosity between the Madhesis and other ethnic groups in the region. By portraying the Madhesis as culturally and ethnically inferior, Chemjong aimed to marginalize them and diminish their influence. This strategy was part of a broader effort to weaken the cohesion of Hindu communities in the region and pave the way for the spread of Christianity. The stigmatization of the Madhesis had long-lasting effects, contributing to the social and political marginalization of the community. Division Among Lepchas, Bhutias, Magars, and Khas Chemjong's divisive tactics were not limited to the Madhesis. He also targeted other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Magars, and Khas. By promoting negative stereotypes and fostering inter-ethnic rivalries, he sought to create a fragmented and divided society that would be more receptive to Christianization. Among the Lepchas and Bhutias, Chemjong's efforts to promote the Kirat identity served to undermine their historical and cultural significance. By positioning the Kirats as the true indigenous people, he sought to delegitimize the claims of the Lepchas and Bhutias to the land and its heritage. This strategy created a sense of resentment and mistrust between these communities. Chemjong specifically targeted the Magar community by labeling them as refugees from Mongolia. This derogatory characterization aimed to undermine their sense of belonging and legitimacy in the region. By portraying the Magars as outsiders, Chemjong further fragmented the ethnic landscape, creating tension and division. Additionally, Chemjong vilified the Bhutia community, portraying them as oppressors and manipulators. By emphasizing negative stereotypes and historical grievances, he aimed to create conflict between the Bhutias and Lepchas. This strategy was designed to weaken the unity of these communities and make them more susceptible to his religious and political agenda. The Impact on Newars The Newars, with their rich cultural and historical heritage, were also targeted by Chemjong's divisive tactics. By promoting inter-group rivalries and fostering a sense of division, he sought to weaken the cohesion and unity of the Newar community. This strategy involved exploiting existing social and cultural differences and magnifying them to create conflict and discord. Chemjong's efforts included creating tension between the Maharjan and Shrestha sub-groups within the Newar community. By emphasizing their differences and promoting rivalry, he aimed to fragment the Newar society. This strategy was part of a broader effort to weaken Hindu communities and promote the spread of Christianity. By undermining the unity and cohesion of the Newars, he sought to create a more receptive environment for his religious and political agenda.

[@pratikking2272]

Why the Indigenous Status of Limbus Should Be RevokedThe question of indigenous status in Nepal is a contentious issue shaped by historical, cultural, and political factors. The Limbus, a community claiming indigenous status, lack substantial historical and archaeological evidence to support this designation. This essay argues that the indigenous status of Limbus should be reconsidered due to their migratory history from Sichuan to Tibet and later to Nepal, lack of historical artifacts, and manipulation of documents with colonial assistance.Historical and Archaeological VoidUnlike other indigenous groups in Nepal, such as the Lepcha, Bhutia, and Newar, who possess rich historical records, architectural landmarks, and cultural artifacts dating back centuries, the Limbus lack tangible evidence of ancient settlements, palaces, temples, or significant archaeological finds that would substantiate their claim as indigenous to the region. The absence of such evidence raises doubts about their historical ties to the land compared to other established indigenous communities.Migration PatternsHistorical records indicate that the Limbus migrated from Sichuan, China, to Tibet in the 13th century, and subsequently moved to Nepal in the late 16th century. These migrations, marked by geopolitical shifts and cultural exchanges, highlight their origins outside the current borders of Nepal. Unlike indigenous groups with deep-rooted ancestral ties to the region, the Limbus' migratory history suggests a more recent arrival, challenging their claim to indigenous status based on continuous presence and cultural continuity.Colonial Influence and Fabrication of DocumentsDuring the colonial era, particularly under British rule, the Limbus reportedly fabricated documents to bolster their indigenous claims. This manipulation, facilitated by colonial authorities, enabled them to assert a historical narrative and gain recognition as indigenous in certain administrative contexts. Such historical revisionism and document forgery undermine the integrity of their indigenous status claim, especially when compared to the rigorous criteria and historical authenticity required for indigenous recognition in other regions.Contemporary Status in SikkimIn neighboring Sikkim, the Limbus have lost their tribal status, indicating a recognition shift that reflects deeper scrutiny of their indigenous claims. This precedent underscores the inconsistencies and challenges associated with defining indigenous identity solely based on self-proclaimed historical narratives and manipulated documentation.

[@balrammarchaha776]

धेरै राम्रो कुरा हरू सुन्न पाइयो दुबै जनालाई धेरै धेरै धन्यबाद ❤❤❤🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@DeviGurung-sf9lt]

डा जगमान ज्यू ज्ञान को सागर हुन ।उहाको सम्पूर्ण कृतीहरु अभिलेखित हुनु पर्छ ।राज्यले बुज्नु पर्छ ।

[@Nithyakapanu]

Long awaited academics. His analysis is based on written n unwritten facts. Noble Gift for Nepal. A Great man. 🙏🏻

[@kanchansharma195]

Sushant dai, such a good lectural episode. Bolai rakhnu Dr. Gurung lai.

[@Padmaagrg]

Gem of Nepali history ❤ Thank you for choosing him in this show

[@denimgurung1726]

My respect towards your podcast is growing 🙌 🙏 Love and prayers from Pokhara brother Sushant 🙏

[@nimoli4317]

जगमान संस्कृतिको ज्ञानको भण्डार भएको सम्पत्ति हो वहाँ को ज्ञान भण्डार गरि राख्नु पर्छ पछिल्लो पुस्तालाई जानकारी को लागि आवश्यक हुन्छ ?

[@birajgautam7437]

Everyone thank me , i was the one who recommended this guest. Thank you for acknowledging and accepting my proposal. My bad it was requested way back.

[@Sushant_Pradhan]

Sorry but he has been on our list for the past 2 years, ever since the Tejeshwar Babu Gong episode. And there have been over 10-12 requests asking to bring him on the podcast. There are many other guests we have been reaching out for over a year, it just takes time to make these happen. Thank you for being one of the people requesting him but it would be unfair to not acknowledge everybody.

[@Fire10101]

​@@prabhuewai9905if Dr. Gurung had said what you liked, everything would've been fine for you

[@someXone]

⁠​⁠@@prabhuewai9905Exactly he is puran guru pandit not an athropologist

[@yetigumba]

@@prabhuewai9905 he is a legit historian. he has a phd on history with thesis on gurung personalities during unification campaign

[@Chillvibe9]

@@Sushant_PradhanI am one of them…thank you brother

[@sharmistharai5518]

Great studies, knowledgeable information & analysis representing the changing time /situations ! Hats off to Dr.Jagananman Gurung & the host 🙏👍

[@RaiHiraKaji]

(28:04) Dr. को कुरामा केही सत्य होला कि, अझै पनि हाम्रो किरात राईको समुदायमा शिशुहरूलाई कवाजको रुपमा बाघको दाह्रा घाँटीमा लगाउने र बाघको मासु खुवायो भने, पछी साहासी र बाघ जस्तै शक्तिशाली हुने जनविश्वास त जीवितै छ।

[@BipinRai-nu5cc]

Arko episodesharu ni chahiyo dai......we must know n preserve his golden lines for the betterment of our next generation n our beautiful country Nepal.....

[@rajbade9856]

He is the to explain historical fact about nepal.❤respect for jagman baya🙏

[@himalayansam1819]

Thank you Pradan jee for presenting Nepal cultural and religious history.

[@AlphaPro66]

@Sushant Pradhan dai ,please ask him more about the role of Guru Macchendranath and Guru Gorakhnath in the context of Nepal in the upcoming episodes.

[@chirankandel604]

वाहा शीत धेरै ग्यान छ त्यो ज्ञान वाहा ले धेरै नै मेहनत र अध्यनले पाउनु भएको छ ।कति बर्ष यहि अध्यन मा लाग्नु भयो होला तर वाहा शीत अझ धेरै ज्ञान छ त्यो ज्ञान स्रोताले अझ पाउनु पर्छ र सुक्ष्म विषयमा सोधपुछ गर्दै त्यो ज्ञान हरेक जन्ताको माझमा जान पर्छ अनि मात्रै याहा का अनेक जाती ,धर्म ,सन्सकार जुन बिदेशीले भनेको बिना तथ्य को आधारमा हल्लाको भरमा हामिलाइ भ्रमित पार्न खोजिदै छ तिनिहरु आफै छताछुल्ल हुने छन ।जन्तानै आफ्नो धर्म,सन्सकार प्रती पुरै जानकार हुन्छ भने कुनै मुलाले यहाँ चलखेल गर्न सक्दैन र देश सुख,सान्ती तिर आफै लम्किन्छ।आफ्नो उत्पति ,आफ्नो थलो,धर्म ,रितिरिवाज वास्तवमै त्यो आफ्नो निजि ज्ञान र सम्पत्ति हो र त्यो भन्दा ठूलो सम्पत्ति अरु हुनै सक्दैन।तेति ज्ञान भएन भने एक दिन रोहोङगिया मुसलमान जस्तै हुने दिन कुनै जातिको पनि आउन सक्छ।

[@Manlilaclub]

ज्ञानको खानी डा० जगमान ज्यूको जय होस् !!

[@RohanKarKii]

Powerhouse of knowledge 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@lostdreamist3184]

It's really strange that Nepal history has been hidden from Nepalise . A lot of things are still hidden some of the things that has been pointed in this poadcast is only in this poadcast . Thank you for making these things and presiving our history. You have to make another one more poadcast with him really informal video . ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@kishangurung4544]

Most awaited guest for me. Thankyou Mr. Sushant

[@Wanggyal-zc6bk]

Me too

[@pratikking2272]

Why the Indigenous Status of Limbus Should Be RevokedThe question of indigenous status in Nepal is a contentious issue shaped by historical, cultural, and political factors. The Limbus, a community claiming indigenous status, lack substantial historical and archaeological evidence to support this designation. This essay argues that the indigenous status of Limbus should be reconsidered due to their migratory history from Sichuan to Tibet and later to Nepal, lack of historical artifacts, and manipulation of documents with colonial assistance.Historical and Archaeological VoidUnlike other indigenous groups in Nepal, such as the Lepcha, Bhutia, and Newar, who possess rich historical records, architectural landmarks, and cultural artifacts dating back centuries, the Limbus lack tangible evidence of ancient settlements, palaces, temples, or significant archaeological finds that would substantiate their claim as indigenous to the region. The absence of such evidence raises doubts about their historical ties to the land compared to other established indigenous communities.Migration PatternsHistorical records indicate that the Limbus migrated from Sichuan, China, to Tibet in the 13th century, and subsequently moved to Nepal in the late 16th century. These migrations, marked by geopolitical shifts and cultural exchanges, highlight their origins outside the current borders of Nepal. Unlike indigenous groups with deep-rooted ancestral ties to the region, the Limbus' migratory history suggests a more recent arrival, challenging their claim to indigenous status based on continuous presence and cultural continuity.Colonial Influence and Fabrication of DocumentsDuring the colonial era, particularly under British rule, the Limbus reportedly fabricated documents to bolster their indigenous claims. This manipulation, facilitated by colonial authorities, enabled them to assert a historical narrative and gain recognition as indigenous in certain administrative contexts. Such historical revisionism and document forgery undermine the integrity of their indigenous status claim, especially when compared to the rigorous criteria and historical authenticity required for indigenous recognition in other regions.Contemporary Status in SikkimIn neighboring Sikkim, the Limbus have lost their tribal status, indicating a recognition shift that reflects deeper scrutiny of their indigenous claims. This precedent underscores the inconsistencies and challenges associated with defining indigenous identity solely based on self-proclaimed historical narratives and manipulated documentation.

[@AbhishekShahiOfficial]

Hi 😇 I really love the knowledge that the guest had shared in this video and I request you to please bring him back for such content. It is very essential for newer generations like us to such kind of knowledge that orient us with our history and origin please take this as an initiative to share and spread such knowledge to the younger generations like us we really don’t know our history and no reason so we are always lost and be manipulated. Thank you so much for this content and hope for such even in the future keeps smiling. 🫡☸️🤗

[@user-ob3uc6fd3d]

Wow. Thanks for this great show. Can you make another show with him and discuss Newa trantrism specially of guvaju( bajracharya), achaju(karmacharya) and devaju( rajopadhyaya)

[@Sayanie.chhetri]

Underrated pod… one day everyone will listen to your podcast

[@raunakbasnet7955]

He is one of very knowledgeable man about history in Nepal

[@sabintharuchaudhary8028]

Arko episode chaiyo Dr Jagman Gurung sir sanga Sushant da, this is one of best episode ive watched

[@sajanmaharjan2260]

we need more of these kinda histories to be recorded

[@kapilKc_short]

Very interesting episode .i love it .guest is very talented❤❤

[@yoggurung8831]

Namaste deri ramro pauranik yachan lai Naman cha

[@Rahasya1008]

Thank you a lot for inviting the most awaited historical person among all your episode.

[@Cityofman17]

Sushant ji, when you next call him please ask the question about the person “life and death” and also try to mention, the significance of moon moment in lifes. Hope you get the questions i can clarify the question if needed. Thank you

[@Er.LalitChand]

नमन डा. साब, सुशान्त सर🙏। Eagerly waiting

[@anamolkedemlimbu219]

thank you brother one of the greatest video in my life thank you so much

[@reshamneupane6902]

अति आदरणीय पूजनीय गुरुदेव डा जगमान गुरुङ ज्यू मा सादर नमस्कार।

[@dipakbaraily8004]

धेरै राम्राे इनटरबियु सुन्दा जागर चलेर आउने

[@sudiljo-c3508]

Second episode of this podcast is mandatory

[@nepaliinnorwaynepnor2785]

Please bring him back.. we would like to hear more podcasts with him.

[@prashantgurung3048]

Thank you @sushant for bringing one of the greatest person from Nepal.🇳🇵

[@WhitePonda]

Guru Jukman gurung derai ramro kura ra garnu bho ra najaneka kura jhana shikna paiyo❤❤❤

[@prabhukafle3412]

Mahele yakdam respect garne Manesh ❤❤ Dr jagman ra Dr surandra CK ❤

[@arpanmhr]

hats off for this podcast.

[@PokhrelGopal]

Thank you for invite him.❤

[@HaridasGamal]

feri arko episode garnu hola दाजु व्यग्र प्रतीक्षा

[@IshworKhadka14]

Had waited for him on your podcast. Finally he is here.

[@kungfumonk6993]

Love from uttrakhand , no subtitle in english and hindi , please. One podcast on uttarakahnd garhwal and nepal relation.

[@SrjLimbu]

I really enjoy your podcast brother. Plz bring Professor Dr George Van Driem. If it is possible thank you!

[@bhiyeemyaktunm2224]

I am with you. I am also want to insist that please bring Dr George van driem on your podcast. Humble requesting serve us linguistic Dr. George van driem. 🙏🏼

[@sagarrijal2055]

Wow One of the best guest 🕉️

[@cheltooktribefreethinker1028]

Tait. This converted grg is one of the biased historians of Nepal. Was the puppet of durbar. He passed thru durbar blessing

[@gurkhaliwarrior]

Lots of questions answered about History of Nepal

[@yuvrajsushant6062]

One of the most talented and knowledgeable person even seen shri Jagman Gurung sir 🙏

[@aryanpudasaini175]

Satya gham jhai charlaga hunxa jaya hos gurung sir❤❤

[@kabitalama9289]

Naman Dr Jagman gurung

[@sujankhadka8935]

सारै राम्रो कुरा गर्नु भो

[@kanchanparajuli5712]

Jag Man Guru ,Namaskar🙏 🙏i 🙏 and Good morning.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉.you are telling 100% true and perfect.In my opinion our king will be returned with in 2081BS.there no any doubt so I am living in peaceful in meditation which tells me my right EYE . Have a Great Siv day .🙏🇳🇵🙏🇳🇵🙏🇳🇵.

[@thamonrana]

Dhanyabad Dr. Gurung sir.modi lai path padhàunu bhayeko ma.

[@Rojinsen-e9r]

He is the one real nepali🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@sugampandit724]

Namaskaar...

[@Scorpio747]

is he gurung ?? omg same tone like newar He has a deep knowledge about our ancient times history and all dynasty myrits and How to accept any change gracefully 😮😮❤❤❤

[@BirenGurung-w9s]

Gurung haru pachim tira yesarinoi bolxa purba Ko gurung aarkoi gari bolxa

[@Dullalbasanta]

best podcast

[@amritlge.2440]

धन्यवाद गुरुङ ज्यु।

[@Lekaali_baagh]

One ep is not enough for this mine of knowledge. Dr. Jagman Gurung ji Naman

[@kesharkc2037]

धन्यवाद जग्गान गुरुलाई

[@pasanglama8571]

We want Dr. Keshab man Shakya so badly in this studio

[@cheltooktribefreethinker1028]

Hehe 😅😅😅

[@RAISUJAN]

Yes 👍, I want Dr. Keshab Man

[@sureshasuresha6520]

So excited to watch Dr jagaman gurung in this episode. My most awaited guest in your show. Thank you so much Sushant Bhai.

[@gaurabpoudel1605]

Worthy listen ❤

[@bimalkhatri8395]

नमन गरे गुरु🙏🇳🇵🕉️🇳🇵🙏

[@worldpeaceok]

You gotta bring him again and talk extensively about tantraism specific to Nepal. But do some in depth self study first so that the conversation would be top notch.

[@kumarrai3193]

We all are kirat …like Rai, Limbu, sunwar, Gayephu Yakkha,Dewan,Tharu,Macchi,Dhimal,Tamang,Subba,Sharma,Pradhan,Sheresth,Gurung……. etc a lots man …… In truth this Nepal is “kirat-kingdom” that’s y Aryan Never develop this country so Our kirat king from Eastern Dharan He is started for progress of our legacy our lord or god is Shiva- Maha-Dev…. Kirat is the ancient History of the world or Universe…. So we are always looking you guys…..

[@manishshrestha4988]

As a newar ma chai kirant ho bhanxu Ho hami hindu culture sanga related xa god same ho community hoina

[@rajibchitrakar2679]

Shiva lai manne kirat pani hoina newar pani hoina

[@manishshrestha4988]

@@rajibchitrakar2679 Ktm ka mandir chai kasle banako ta.

[@rajibchitrakar2679]

@@manishshrestha4988 Ktm ko purano mandir murti sabai Buddhist king haru le banayeko ho. Pashupati charumati bihar ko aansa thiyo. Pachi India bata malla king aayera hindu ma convert gareko ho. Same with changu Narayan, budhanilkantha. Tapai ko history khojnu tapai pani Buddhist hunai parchha 100%. Adha newar hindu king le garera afno religion chodnu paryo. Nepal ma either Buddhism or shamanism matra thiyo.

[@RSGumante]

​@@rajibchitrakar2679bro lay bujena jasto xha shiva and yalmber is similar but not same