EPIC Panel: Dr Dean Ornish, Dr Michael Greger, Dr Scott Stoll, Dr T Colin Campbell

[@unholyquail4560]

I may be young but already started having back issues at 26 even though I did the weight lifting and the exersize. Moving away from a desk job helped a little bit but getting back into the college seats (terrible!) didn't help much. Even got downed for a few days for twisting my back the wrong way. I also gained 20 kilograms over the years thinking I was "buff" and "Swole" from my training. And people believed I was muscular rather than fat. Yoga fixed by back pain but only if I kept doing it and sometimes it would return badly. Turend 29 went full Whole Food Plant Based. Never had any backpain from that point on, combined with my "tool" sometimes not fuctioning I realise now I was at the starting point of artherosclerosis. A really scare thought to realise in hindsight. Right now I am 31 , 2 years on a plant based diet no back pain not even recurring, tools operating at max capacity again. Lost 20 kilograms and got the BMI back to the 21 range. And feeling more energetic and looking better than I ever did before. Bloodwork came back the other day and on an indication basis they determined it was comparable to those of an 18!! year old. Yea I practice and I preach this livestyle, I probably saved me from an very early heart attack and maybe even an early grave. Everything I did before was false and information spread on false pretenses. At huge buckets of whole fat yoghurt,.. more meat than I can account for (sometime said 'I atleast need 1 dead animal a day'...) and never any veggies. So if a person like me can make the change cold turkey from one day to another I believe anyone can! Also thanking James Wilks for gamechangers.. it really was a gamechanger for me.

[@MrMasterDebate]

Did you get any pushback from people around you or doctors? I used it to combat my conditiln that’s genetic , no cure . I went from handfuls of meds not really solving issues to near zero , moving more. Yet it was dismissed as not being diet related. “Nah. Diet doesn’t make these kind of changes. Did you start walking ? Exercise helps .” Once I learned that nutrition vs exercis... ends with nutrition representing like 70% of your health outcomes... my lazy but chose that’ and I’ve never felt better

[@unholyquail4560]

@@MrMasterDebate Never had any pushback luckely. Probably because I didnt communicate it like that. My treatments were sporadic only to intervene when complaints turned into disfunctionality. You should read Colin Cambell his "Future of nutrition" hé really puts the pain on the correct spot about the dogma around food and disease. You might get the acknowledgement you desire. I kept nodding 'yes yes' and saying "I know right!?" every few pages.

[@jasonito23]

@@MrMasterDebate - I went plant-based, then vegan years ago. I remember that my doctor wanted me to get blood work done because I changed my diet. Then he called me and said, "Keep doing whatever it is you are doing....you will live forever." My bloodwork was excellent.

[@thihangpham9713]

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[@thihangpham9713]

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[@miloshnaventhan1989]

Epic panel indeed. Dr Colin Campbell is 88 years and have the cognitive brain of a 30 year old. Thank you to the doctors here and all other PB doctors out there healing people

[@missy3240]

I can never get sick of watching these doctors. Thank you for giving me another opportunity to hear them.

[@susanfabrican2244]

I agree. I feel peaceful and hopeful when I listen to them and look at them… Dr Campbell’s skin is so healthy. 🌱💪🏼

[@valerietomsic8454]

@@susanfabrican2244 same here!

[@margaretpage6021]

I’m wfpb for 3 months and feeling so much more alive. I’m 60 years old..... good luck...it’s so worth it... you feel so much better.

[@barbara5495]

I agree! I'm almost 62 and switched to a WFPB way of eating (don't want to call it a 'diet') a few months ago and it's been well worth it! I feel so much better and glad you do too! Now if I could only get my 68-year-old husband to do the same....

[@valerietomsic8454]

@@barbara5495 just BE the shining example perhaps...when he sees how much more ENERGY and overall health you have, he may want to "join up" too! HUGS!

[@barbara5495]

@@valerietomsic8454 💕

[@margaretpage6021]

@NOTREALLY HANKAARON no I don’t…. All vegan supplements: B12 and D only.

[@valerietomsic8454]

@@margaretpage6021 same here B12 & D3. Plant based since 2010 and love it!

[@LeckieInstallsLondon]

I admire Dr Gergers energy, I really do. This man is a saint for human health!

[@ID-qd1qk]

Plant based for 16 years and am loving it A LOT!!!!!!!! Thank you to all for your amazing work!!!!! The China Study changed my life years back. 👍😘🤗😃

[@yuppers1]

Same! 8 years and going 💪 strong

[@mohamedashwaanrasheedh8086]

China study?

[@nisargab19]

Do you take vit b12 supplement? Do you think it's necessary, as a long term vegan?

[@daryltownsley4562]

Check out the critiques of the china study. It's not science.

[@ainsleyameerali7622]

From the time Dr Greger stops in his intro speech .. you can see that the love he had / has for his grandmother ... never died ... these doctors are golden ... for us youtubers .. we say thank you ... priceless.!!!!!🥑🍏🍉🍊🍌🥔🍄🥒🍎🍇🍒🍓🥕🌶🍅🍍

[@MrMasterDebate]

I wish my parent switched... they had declining health that worried me. Sudden toenails getting yellow and having an infection that won’t go away. That scared me because that is showing his immune system was too weak to combat it, especially since the meds didn’t work. Then I kept seeing bigger and bigger signs of wearing down of the immune system based upon what I learned from Gregor. I was nice and loving .. it didn’t convince him the problems were a warning sign . He always claimed they were not related . And then sadly::: the big one hit him .... cancer , and he passed away.

[@ainsleyameerali7622]

@@MrMasterDebate sorry to hear about this .. but we have dr G here to teach us ... we can all learn.. only wfpb all the way .. but include lots of antioxidants too

[@Sara-lf4fb]

Wow I stumbled upon a piece of heaven, three of my most favorite people in the world! They saved my life. I just turned 47 and feel better than I ever have my entire life. I have been off all of my medications for four years now, lost over 30 lbs, and most importantly, I have tons of energy and my attitude is amazing!!!

[@kin.9133]

Going first WFPB for health and then transitioning to a full vegan lifestyle has brought such harmony and fulfillment into my life ❤

[@claire4688]

dr campbell: "Reverse Citizen's United..." YES! thank you dr. campbell for your integrity, ethics, foresight, and for not pulling any punches. you are a (inter)national treasure!!!

[@eugeniebreida]

Dr. Campbell is a renaissance man - an inspiration for so many fields of work/ways of being.

[@dennismitchell5276]

True. We need a healthy culture. They talked about the people who fail to keep eating this way. I'm one of them. There is zero social environment in my area that supports WFPB eating. I live in a house full of junk food. Keto is assumed to be the best diet. We are often alone eating a radical diet. Throw in all this culture war bullshit and I am seen as the enemy.

[@eugeniebreida]

​@@dennismitchell5276 Indeed, it is a very difficult state of affairs. I would not make it a day in a junk food household, I LOVE all that stuff/no will power. I on a side of 'culture' where I live alone and only bring the healthy stuff in the house. I'd be up a creek with ice cream in fridge, cookies in cupboard.

[@bijanok1361]

Thank you all, you are truly exceptional and life changing 🙏🤗

[@sugarplumk2381]

Thank you for sharing this online. These are great men, intelligent and caring. They’re very generous with their time and I always enjoy hearing and appreciate their insights.

[@Salamander407]

Pure gold!!!! A lot of people owe their health to these people!!! Thank you.

[@sheralschowe]

My lower back pain as well as chronic knee pain was completely eliminated from a WFPB diet. Over six months, it gradually improved to eventually no pain at all.

[@heythave]

Dr. Greger is funny and has so much spunk. Love him. These doctors are my heroes.

[@peayen5008]

Thanks to these amazing people I've been predominantly WFPB since 2016 and at 51 I feel physically and mentally healthier, fitter and happier than ever before 😊

[@MrMasterDebate]

I’m young, below 20. I went starting because of bad rashes. Anti WFPB people in the family all started out claiming they told me to eat more steak out of concern. As I got healthier , their concerns became more elevated and urgent: this is going on for too long, it’s been a year, tell your kid to eat meat before it’s too late and a bone is broken. There isn’t any protein in the meals he ever eats with us (my entire meal that day was lentils). Once it became clear that I was not stopping and had amazing benefits, anger came out . It’s so weird

[@anitagettao]

They are all my superhero..., never get enough to watch their lectures...true doctors with true knowledge...you heal the world really...! 🙏💜🙏💛🙏💗🙏💙🎗❤🙏🧡

[@KJSvitko]

Go vegan for your health, whole food plant based. Go vegan for the animals. Go vegan for the planet. A lower risk of heart disease and cancer for you and a better planet for everyone, human and animals.

[@reinhardkruger2536]

Go Plant Based! Go Plant Based! Go Plant Based! Go Plant Based!

[@mirandaburt5700]

These people are geniuses. Dean Ornish had such wonderful things to say! So amazing

[@valerietomsic8454]

HE....IS....AMAZING!

[@annemccarron2281]

​@@valerietomsic8454Dr. Ornish had to take a lot of guff from people claiming his research was bogus. His seminal research came out at least 30 years ago and should be an established way of life by now, but people don't life change. They would rather get ill & expect a physician to cure them.

[@cherylcarroll7606]

Love watching plant base Doctors.I am transitioning over to plant base.

[@valerietomsic8454]

YAY for YOU....there's SO much support for it these days too....you can DO it!

[@peayen5008]

Good luck. You'll feel great 😊

[@drbeetheemighty]

Great. Made the change in November 2020.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@drbeetheemighty / "Plants - Not People "

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@Andrew-rv9qr / He seems nuts !! 😲´´

[@Seanthecookchef]

Absolute legends and inspiration for myself, family & my channel, keep them coming Docs!

[@charimilligan5326]

This was SO excellent! I can't wait to share it with our group of 5 adults over 60 praying each night for our Country together. and Making a LIFESTYLE change together!!! THANK YOU!!!

[@jimmypandolfo4035]

Hello , Fabulous panel. Michael Greger is a gem . His main mantra is if to put it to the test !! … So I put it to the test . I have been plant based and Vegan for a while and what it’s done to my body has just been incredible!! …picture this …say you had these soldiers in your body , armed with plant based nutrition ammunition, fighting off unwanted disease , pain and optimising our organs ( skin , heart , brain, lungs , bones , cells etc) into great health for longevity to spend time with our selves , loved ones and community. The cherry on top of following this way of living is that animals are no longer bred to suffer , killed and consumed. Also the planet will thank us and recover . Human beings DO NOT NEED TO CONSUME ANIMALS FOR PROTEIN , humans consume animals as a want and it’s all BUSINESS. …it’s changed my life and it will change yours . Take care 🌱

[@darrisnelson5223]

Truly an EPIC panel! There are hundreds of thousands of is out here who HAVE stuck with a plant-based diet (17 years for me)! It’s easy to switch now more than ever. Agree with Dr. Ornish that fear is not a good motivator. Joy of living, feeling better is inspiring!❤️🥦🥑

[@nisargab19]

Do you take vit b12 supplement? Do you think it's necessary, as a long term vegan?

[@darrisnelson5223]

@@nisargab19I’m not great about daily supplements nor do I eat ‘fortified’ foods. I aim to supplement weekly with a higher dose. I also get blood work done every couple years to make sure I’m not falling into deficiency. Most vegans, especially those that do not eat processed foods, should add a B-12 supplement. I did fall into a critical deficiency for vitamin D even though I live at the beach and am an outdoor person. I now supplement with vitamin D intermittently. Blood work is essential IMO to get information about your needs. Hope this helps!

[@valerietomsic8454]

AGREED! I've been plant based since 2012... it SURELY IS sustainable! I donate my O+ blood every 60 days and have for years....never ONCE turned away due to low iron or high bp...which they screen for before taking blood.! At 65, I LOVE living this way...zero aches/pains and ZERO meds!

[@merrilouneigenfind104]

Been plant based almost nine years. One day I wasn't and the next day I was. I've never looked back. Just do it. When my daughter was in high school I did it. I wanted to be a good place for her. She is now working on her Master's in Biology in NYC.

[@robynskeletons]

Loved this… these guys are real heroes! have endometriosis (probably about 8 years now given symptoms). I’ve been mostly WFPB for about 3 years and it is certainly helping slow the progression and reduce the severity of the pain. It certainly isn’t a cure, but as Dr G always says - since there are no negative side effects to eating like this, why the heck wouldn’t you do it? These lifestyle changes have also reduced my stress and blood pressure, almost completely cured my migraines, and helped me to be healthier and happier all around. 💚 🌱

[@VeganLinked]

Thank you so much for sharing your story and inspiration best wishes with healing ❤!

[@aussiedadreviews]

Congratulations well done 👍🏼

[@michaeldavidson1909]

Greger is the star of this show. People think everything has to be complicated to be effective. Dr. G. is saying it's actually fairly simple. And he's right. Also, he's saying what's needed is a concerted PR effort on the part of the powers that be (including doctors) to educate people at large.

[@k.h.6991]

Yes, it shows that he's a science communicator. The other two are scientists first.

[@binetblose74]

I'm so grateful for these compassionate souls ❤❤❤❤❤

[@PrinceWa]

Dr. Michael Greger is absolutely awesome.

[@tivoni]

If I understand that in the case of Alzheimer Disease that the memories remain in place then whole plant based diet should do the job! You gentlemen and others MAKE THE DIFFERANCE. Thank you from all of us!

[@tivoni]

@@vivian3371 I personally put nuts and other high calorie foods aside I need to lose more weight. The blueberries help me out when I'm in the sun.

[@terryhopeful]

The passion and logic here are making me swoon! I agree this is an EPIC panel!

[@soubhikmukherjee2982]

Feeling proud to be a small part of the movement!!

[@ID-qd1qk]

💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕 Love you ALL!!!!! Thank you!!!!!

[@odelyalevy]

This video is fascinating. Three doctors that are revolutionary hard core in our planet. Going strong. Pleasure to hear them. Thank you for sharing. Lol. Dr. Grogger IS very animated and such an amazing being with good heart. He is literally walking encyclopedic. He is a missioner in this life you bring health to this globe. Love him. 🌟💎

[@kin.9133]

I love Dr Greger's energy. He's an inspiration

[@valerietomsic8454]

When he does his Questions and Answers on youtube, he is ALWAYS walking on his treadmill! AMAZING human being....all of these docs are awesome !

[@Murph7373]

I love you ALL!!!!! Thank you!!!!! 🙏🙏🌱🌱🌱🌱👍👍👍👍🤗♥️🥰

[@LEGASItv]

These doctors-authors are SICK! I mean, in a good way 💪😉

[@BethShearon]

Love these guys and their work 💗 so much appreciation

[@WeCelebrateEatingPlants]

Love it 🥦❤ Thank you!

[@aplantbasedwife]

Thank you for posting this. I will share this on my channel.

[@gmaneis]

A week ago, I was having to scoot my butt to the front edge of my recliner chair and push off with both arms when standing. After a week of plant based food, I get up from the back of the seat without using my arms. Fat is melting off my belly. I'll never eat meat or dairy again.

[@nonfictionone]

REAL doctors.

[@greyhnd001]

Yea I'm 50 and still ride a unicycle for exercise and juggle balls and trying to juggle clubs. Juggling helps hand eye coordination and uni-cycling increases trunk strength. If I wasn't on a whole food plant based diet for the past 10 years I wouldn't been able to do all this. I am so thankful for all the research done and those three guys and many more out there saying the same thing.

[@FREDAFMK]

we are spirit, soul and body...be loved

[@melissaheaton1789]

Dr Dean Ornish is just the best! They all are, but, man, I just love listening to him!!

[@annemccarron2281]

Wish I had become vegan when I read Dr. Ornish's book on reversing CVD 40 years ago. I'm determined to live the remainder of my life as healthy as possible.

[@mikemaldanado6015]

The main reason no study, no matter how profound, on how eating a whole food plant based study can reverse or prevent most of the diseases caused by bad diet will ever take hold in America is because of our low education standards. Most Americans do not believe in science or studies. For example I showed my dad study after study about how stents don't work and that changing his diet will help stop his condition from getting worse and will probably reverse it. His response is always "oh that's just one opinion". The only way this movement will take hold is if our educational system improves, otherwise all the studys in the world will fall on deaf ears. Also insurance companies do not want less money spent on health care because they get a fixed percentage of all the money spent. So if they reduce the money spent, it will kill their bottom line.

[@VeganLinked]

Totally

[@justinm2885]

What a panel of legends!!

[@vigneshwarp3462]

It's not necessarily about the living longer part. It's more about having a quality time while we live with a healthy mind and body.

[@VeganLinked]

Totally!

[@kevinthorpe1107]

LOL! What a healthy looking group of humanity!

[@eugeniebreida]

And sounding! An astounding amount of mental health and acuity going' down on that stage thar!

[@chriswood3637]

I don't think sarcasm is recognised here

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@chriswood3637 👌

[@sandrabayes7986]

I would recommend having many more of these symposiums as a way to increase interest and provide factual information to anyone who stops by to listen/watch. It’s a great advertisement for going plant based! I love Dr Ornish is going on FOX since so many anti plant based meat lovers watch that channel.

[@VeganLinked]

I'm working very hard to capture everything I can and share it!!!

[@aussiedadreviews]

Always encouraging

[@MrBradHendrickson]

35:42 - "It's like Donahue..." 🤣

[@VeganLinked]

:) Dr G's a hoot ❤️

[@kathleen4376]

I applaud all the doctors on your panel today. I especially want to celebrate Dr T Colin Campbell for mentioning the historical root causes behind the problems with current medical practises and policies , thank him for the risks he took to educate us and advocate for changes. Listen to what he said about the “ Citizens United” Supreme Court Decision and how it needs to be reversed ! You are rockstars ! You are gamechangers !

[@Alan-vg7cn]

'Bout time someone showed some love for the GREAT CAMPELL!

[@Crazydoglady.]

I would love to see studies on reversal of back pain 🙌🏻

[@tonibartling3844]

I would think it would be based on inflammation like all the rest of aches and pains etc

[@heythave]

If back pain is caused by excess weight around your hip, then it will help.

[@aldovirooo]

Plant based since 1997. I didn't do it for health reasons though but for ethical reasons (animal welfare). My compassion has been rewarded by good health 🥰

[@VeganLinked]

Same here! Thanks for watching and sharing

[@rjfpac]

It would be helpful to see the date and location of these presentation that are so informative

[@VeganLinked]

Not this one, I almost got sued. F*** that location 😂

[@Viva-Longevity]

This is the most informed nutrition debate I have ever heard.

[@NS-qc3bv]

My family has a history of heart disease, I saw a ornish clinic, with not great reviews, I wonder why because I love the way this sounds

[@VeganLinked]

Probably patient adherence. You'd have to talk to that specific clinic

[@TomTerrific]

It's been a year since this program - I'd like DR. Ornish to give us some results from this AD research.

[@margarett923]

I just love the whole plant based community and lifestyle 🌱💗

[@PlantBasedPoint]

Some of my absolute favorite ppl to listen to and learn from - endless knowledge and compassion - go plant based

[@IllCripp]

''The greatest of follies is to sacrifice health for any other kind of happiness.''

[@soulnight1606]

Great quote! Couldn't agree more.

[@shartmann2008]

Loneliness and isolation is an epidemic.

[@VeganLinked]

Ignorance and indifference is a pandemic

[@MrMasterDebate]

Wait. What are you saying ? How is that related to this

[@autumnglidwell1912]

Wish these Dr.s would take a look at my chart!! 😊😓🤷‍♀️

[@ivynoemi338]

This is a like, but ... I'm sure they could have provided them some more comfortable chairs. Poor Drs. Their research & preserverance in the subject of plant nutrition deserves a comfy sofa chairs & coffee table & a fresh, hot cup of joe each !

[@sandraelder1101]

I’d love for them to each respond to the health improvements of those following a keto diet. Better yet, get 3 of the best keto docs on stage with these 3. Now, THAT would be fascinating!

[@rjfpac]

Listen again carefully, it is ANIMAL PROTIENS causing the top diseases causing death

[@VeganLinked]

Keto is just another fad, if you don't have TBI or Epilepsy then it's just dumb. It ranks extremely low, far lower than plant based diets. It may be fascinating though but completely not necessary

[@eriksmit1804]

Dean is awesome!!

[@mirandaburt5700]

Is Dr. Greger’s speaking tour in operation yet? Would love to see him. I live in Omaha

[@Sara-lf4fb]

I live in Wyoming, but would totally drive to Omaha to attend!

[@unholyquail4560]

I think he is working on his new book right now "how not to age" for december 2022. So after the book release he will be out and about giving talks again for a year. I think you can find this on his website?

[@Sara-lf4fb]

@@unholyquail4560 Yes, I think you are correct!

[@chiyerano]

This was great! I am hoping that the daughter of the person who asked about endometriosis will at least consider making a few dietary changes like cutting out dairy and minimizing oils and see if that doesn't help things. Look into places such as PCRM who have doctors such as Dr. Neal Barnard that have successfully helped treat some people for such conditions. Thanks for the upload.

[@VeganLinked]

I met with Dr Neal Barnard yesterday and shot a little video with him. Can't wait to upload it and hopefully shoot more with him.

[@robynskeletons]

Definitely! I have endometriosis (probably about 8 years now give symptoms). I’ve been mostly WFPB for about 3 years and it is certainly helping slow the progression and reduce the severity of the pain. It certainly isn’t a cure, but as Dr G always says - since there are no negative side effects to eating like this, why the heck wouldn’t you do it? I have friends though with endo and multiple other conditions who just aren’t open to making lifestyle changes… all we can do is share resources and hope people listen 😊

[@SergioTwitter]

Great video! What’s the name of the conference / fest ? Thank you! 💕

[@VeganLinked]

Thanks for watching, this was at plant based world conference in NY before COVID. These doctors do a great job appearing at various conferences and festivals. But since COVID I guess these are mostly all virtual now.

[@susanfabrican2244]

Dr Dean Ornish is so eloquent at 22:50 ☺️🌱👍🏼

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Really loving the Type O Negative vibes from Dr Gregor.

[@jimscanoe]

Nathan Pritikin was the first person to open my eyes to low fat nutrition being the foundation for good health.

[@daryltownsley4562]

Crazy

[@lauraplatt2204]

Epic panel!

[@VeganLinked]

You know it!

[@saviour2144]

this is better than watching a rock concert. ive seen twice in the same day.

[@VeganLinked]

Awesome! They are rock stars!!! It's veganpaloza!

[@saviour2144]

@@VeganLinked true. We are entering a new age

[@frafor]

It is not living more years but living healthy whatever number of years one gets to live. Also there are two attitudes: 1) feel guilty after eating inconvenient but tasty food or 2) feel triumphant for enjoying the inconvenient food. Why not create tasty and convenient food? Maybe it's time to stop the cheap inconvenient but easy to produce and store (even subsidized) food. The consumer votes with their dollars.

[@KJSvitko]

Eat a healthy plant based diet and exercise regularly. Every adult and child should own a bicycle and ride it regularly. Obesity is all too common today. Get off the couch. Ride to work, ride to school, ride for fun. Every city should be a bicycle city. Speak up for bicycles in your community.

[@MrMasterDebate]

Health weight management actually is about 70% diet and 30% movement. The obesity crisis spiked not because of a lack of exercise(we have information on historical movement), but because the switch to processed animal foods

[@KJSvitko]

@@MrMasterDebate That is true. The point is that while diet is mainly responsible for health and obesity regular exercise is necessary for a strong and healthy body. Cardio improves circulation and pushes blood to the brain, and other extremities. Eat healthy sure but sitting on the couch all day will ruin your fitness and reduce your chances for a long healthy life.

[@juliewake4585]

Not everyone can ride a bike. I wish I could but my MS is prohibitive I’m afraid. Doing as much exercise I can, as well as eating a whole food plant diet seems to be the only way to me.

[@susanfabrican2244]

Dr Ornish is knocking it out of the park ⚾️ 🌱💪🏼

[@k.h.6991]

What's not investigated enough is auto-immune diseases and difficult issues like endometrioses that affect about 15% of women.

[@spoudaois]

I'm thinking that low fat plant based diet might prevent spinal degeneration. I did find a paper that linked it to atherosclerosis. In addition small vessel disease could be a factor in dementia ,spinal disease, perhaps some forms of renal disease.

[@TheKunalshn70]

What did Dr Collins refer to study j way 1900...what's the name of Dr he was talking about

[@jamesmeehan4209]

He was talking about the China study

[@sandybayes]

I agree with all of you and especially Dr T Colin Campell that Citizen United reversed. The fastest way to do that is to elect RFKennedy Jr for President in 2024. He has proven that he is the best equipped to make this change! Kennedy 2024!!!

[@wtillett243]

Why do you have grown men sitting on high chairs? Totally uncool., these men are professionals and deserve better. My humble opinion.

[@VeganLinked]

No doubt, you're not the first person to make that observation. Totally out of my control...

[@yanniegeerdink7183]

I love dr Greger, he's wise.

[@annemccarron2281]

He has a very upbeat, contagious personality.

[@17thwonder]

loneliness and depression indeed doc. it's an epidemic in its own right

[@futurechris2283]

I think Michael’s leg wants to say something

[@mariebyrne5114]

😂

[@sharit7970]

Epic!!

[@Ronniezim]

When did this take place?

[@VeganLinked]

Just over a year ago

[@spoudaois]

Have to go starch based to make plant based sustainable. The problem is patient's are brain washed from disinformation regarding carbs. Most doctors do not know what causes insulin resistance so they manage with a low carb diet instead of cure with a low fat starch diet.

[@VeganLinked]

Nah, beans,greens, grains, fruits, veggies, mushrooms, nuts and seeds like the Daily Dozen by nutritionfacts.org

[@susanfabrican2244]

“Reverse Citizens United”

[@KYLE-zo4bm]

"no i obviously haven't" lmao

[@stephss]

Pretty sure the only "vegan" on the doctors panel is Greger. Not gate keeping, just annoyed when terms are used loosely. Thanks for sharing the chat.

[@eugeniebreida]

Steph could you share what Campbell and Ornish eat that disqualifies them? I guess I should know, alas. Am very interested.

[@VeganLinked]

Pretty certain they're all vegan AF. Give me one reason why they aren't and I'm pretty sure there's just as many ways you aren't if not more. It's people like Ornish & Campbell that make vegans like Greger which pretty much makes them all more vegan than us combined

[@WalkawayyyRenee]

Should have had a treadmill on the stage for Dr. G. ❤

[@VeganLinked]

😆

[@ah-yb9jf]

Heros

[@justinhale5693]

If you vegans weren't so completely economically, historically, and legally naive you could get your agenda through to tens if not hundreds of times more people than now. I'm not even vegan and I'm sad for the lost opportunities and embarrassed when the brilliant medical analysis is disturbed by ignorant comments about climate change (none of you vegans realize that cold kills more people than heat still, and climate related deaths are on the decline), the American legal ruling on Citizens United (it actually allowed criticism of politicians without government approval), American insurance companies are currently socialized and can only increase fees if health care costs go up (only the most far-left fails to understand why that increases medical costs), and I could go on. Thank you for helping open minded people learn to eat healthier, I hope one day the people you helped can return the favor.

[@VeganLinked]

It's not that we're naïve, we're just still too small in numbers to get through to the masses, politics, system, etc. We're very well organized, the most organized of all lifestyles, we have a college, we have PCRM working the government, we have DxE, we have NF, we have a lot. But, what we're up against is the most enormous thing ever really. Billions of people culturally conditioned to perpetuate business as usual because they're afraid of change, even if it's killing them not to. There is tremendous collective resistance to the truth. This is why it took 6 thousands studies showing the same thing before even getting a surgeons warning for cigs. Food tho, man, that's digging deep into culture, as deep as it gets really.

[@justinhale5693]

@@VeganLinked there are currently well-known ways to overcome these issues and the least effective is criticism. Second only to criticism in effectiveness is dispassionate factual analysis. If poor health didn't focus my attention and overcome my ego, my family wouldn't be eating mostly plants let alone care. One way to overcome normal objections from normal people is to create a health share/insurance group that conditions cheap rates and good service with a vegan diet. It's illegal and always will be, but there are other ideas. You don't need a big group or even highly motivated vegan activists. Just think slightly strategically and listen to other experts like the right wing economists that gave me the ideas to manage private health care for pro-social outcomes.

[@jeanlewis2272]

Plant based eating requires planning and meal prep. If there is healthy food available, we will eat it.

[@VeganLinked]

Being healthy requires a little planning... Go buy some beans greens grains fruits veggies mushrooms nuts seeds herbs and spices, look up some recipes, keep it simple, and you're good to go.

[@wherethereslifethereshope9858]

Why is Greger;'s left leg constantly moving up and down?

[@j-sm4554]

He normally walks hours a day on his desk threadmills machine . Must have to much energy to burn which he cant by being sitting down.

[@juliewake4585]

@@j-sm4554 he always seems to be full of energy doesn’t he? 😀

[@cantstoplion]

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[@logoutandrew4569]

So… Is everyone just going to disregard the fact that all these guys look generally unhealthy?

[@VeganLinked]

How should doctors and scientists look when they're 87 years old, 68 years old, etc... ? This isn't a modeling competition there's plenty of "pretty" vegans that look half their age. These guys look to be in excellent health if you look at what matters, like their energy, mental disposition, and activity levels. These guys are running circles around meat advocates, esp. Atkins who died overweight with heart disease at 72.

[@logoutandrew4569]

@@VeganLinked oh, no, I was thinking more like Gregor. 48 years old, gray, totally bald, half blind, built like a bag of milk (bloated stomach and seemingly no upper body strength) talks with an odd sense of someone trying to force himself into an energetic state. And the other gentleman look every year their age, if not slightly older.

[@VeganLinked]

@@logoutandrew4569 I've met Greger in person multiple times. He looks perfect; his complexion, energy, absolutely perfect. Most of the people I know that are not vegan and 10 years younger are in tragic shape and mentally a mess, not Dr. Greger at all. Being bald is irrelevant. They are doctors, not models, there's plenty of vegan athletes, body builders, models, etc... Doctors only need to be doctors. If you met him you would see that he is in perfect shape. It's so annoying to even have to say all this, it's beyond childish. Like Einstein said, it's a sorry situation when the package is prettier than the meat packed inside. These men are as vivacious as teenagers and sharp, quick, and thorough. And full of integrity. If you're looking for love go somewhere else. If you're looking for science, inspiration, and intelligent food for though, and to develop a sophisticated and compassionate palate then forget about what they look like. There's a lot of dead people that were beautiful, it's not so pretty when they're dead. These guys are studious and don't have time to waste trying to do something just to appeal to some insignificant, trivial desire only the shallow crave. This is about something real, meaningful, and I'm sure I have plenty of attractive doctors on here and other vegans that probably look way better than you. But, that doesn't even matter. Go look at Dr. Garth Davis if you're wanting to play with yourself to videos of vegan doctors, maybe he's more your speed? I have plenty of videos of him, he's over 50 and the ladies seem to love him.

[@VeganLinked]

@@logoutandrew4569 here you go buddy, maybe this will float your boat, Dr. Garth Davis, over 50 and vegan AF: kzbin.info/aero/PLmSzj4R9w2MBMDjDVsJres9C-UdBDlmCc

[@VeganLinked]

@@logoutandrew4569 I'm confident Fuhrman would run circles around you, he's almost 70 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpfZl4KvnriKpLs

[@kin.9133]

The future is vegan 🍌