Epic RANT on Gender "Equality" - Jordan Peterson on why there are so few women at the top

Jordan Peterson on gender equality, the different choices men & women make, and the reasons so few women are in positions of power. Most people get the "equity" or "gender parity" part precisely backwards, asking why there are so few women at the top, when in fact the real question is why are there any people at all crazy enough to accept the burdens of being in those top positions.
Excerpted from his talk at Ryerson University earlier this year: • 2017/02/11: An incendi...
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[@Gravitahn]

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[@claremchugh5005]

Gravitahn thanks

[@paoemantega8793]

Kudos Gravitahn - Well done

[@ragnarlothbrok3849]

mgtow

[@bh2749]

I disagreed on many points. 9:25 "It has nothing to do with masculine structures of values"? Valuing success and competition is the definition of a masculine society. It's a known fact that individualistic societies like the US value masculinity more than femininity. What he's right about is that adopting a more feminine culture doesn't really solve this issue. We don't have more female execs in more feminine societies (e.g. Denmark) either, so we know it doesn't work that way. Corporate environments are always going to encourage masculine values, because hierarchy and competition generate the most profit. Should we blame them for it? I absolutely think not. But we still need to acknowledge that a masculine social structure *does* exist. 2:30 Happiness and freedom aren't the same thing? That's true, but you mostly can't have happiness without freedom. To say that women's lives are more complicated today because they have more choices now is idiotic. The point *is* to have a choice, to have options! Such outdated thinking for a university professor. ("Women have paid a big price"... lol.) Several times, he phrased his opinion poorly. He made all the fundamental mistakes you could imagine when debating women's issues. A blatant example is when at 9:56 he basically assumed that a woman won't be happy without having been married. So he bases many of his statements on assumptions based on gender. "She's a woman, so she most likely will regret not having children". Good luck successfully debating anyone with this method. He also says that it's biological factors that determine the careers of women, not an unjust social structure. I'm not even going to bother expanding on this one, just going to leave it here. At 4:04 ge makes another basic, *extremely* basic mistake he makes is equating one's success with the amount of work one does. His argument for men succeeding is that they work hard? We all know the world doesn't work like that (if it did, we'd have more women in higher positions), and believing otherwise is the most conspicuous trait of a right-wing authoritarian, which many people accuse him of being. I personally don't think he's alt-right at all, but after hearing him say all these baseless opinions, I wonder if he has any scientific credibility at all in the field.

[@frankbooth8003]

+dfsa, 1.Exactly. Capitalism favours COMPETITION. Men are more competitive. 2.More choices makes things more complicated because you will have to invest more on each subject to make the RIGHT choice. 3.Only 5% of the female population choose not to have children... so if she is like MOST other women, she will PROBABLY regret not having shildren... 4. 4:04 He is talking of men, on the verge of being autistic. Not ordinary men...

[@lbochtler]

The problem with a job that pays well, but requires a lot of work is that you can rarely enjoy the fruits of your labor.

[@charlierobles316]

lbochtler Really really nobody knew that but you huh

[@contr4dixion]

lbochtler which is why, the joy is in the job itself, not the fruits

[@contr4dixion]

Which is exactly what he's talking about here...hahah

[@DewTime]

And that’s why men take these roles more than women.

[@mugen4516]

That’s why you need passive income

[@rakkatytam]

*"Of course you can just compare yourself to the few people who are richer than you and feel sorry for yourself, but that's pretty pathetic in my estimation"* I live in America and this about sums up the majority of everyone I have ever met.

[@mysticaltyger2009]

I suspect it isn't too much different in Canada.

[@littlefishbigmountain]

Now if only people could let that sink in instead of getting offended!

[@yummyyum4626]

rakkatytam Eastern Europe sounds nice....

[@CenturianCornelious]

Carlo Truppi lol You beat me to it! I was just going tell rakkatytam to visit Ireland -- or really any western country. I've been north-to-south in Europe, and yeah, class envy abounds.

[@denghua123]

People don't hate poor, people hate poor than others.

[@sabisan6359]

One of the greatest videos I’ve ever seen. “ No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth” - Plato

[@moritzwagner4332]

Yeah like Hitler.

[@moritzwagner4332]

@B I G B R U H everybody hates him 🤷‍♂️.

[@sabisan6359]

Alexander Fomin I wrote that if you speak the truth you’re bound to be hated by those that disagree. Are you implying that hitler spoke the truth?

[@moritzwagner4332]

@@sabisan6359 you wrote that quote, I'm just proving that it's not true.

[@moritzwagner4332]

@B I G B R U H yeah.

[@emilebichelberger7590]

I wish I could structure a sentence and a reply as fast and as well as him.

[@rudipell90]

That comes from a huge amount of literature consumption.

[@bsamaniac305]

I think it's a matter of wisdom. If you know what the question is about, you'll have a lot to talk about.

[@andromedasmoons3647]

I'm right there with you! I need time to process what was said and organize my thoughts. I think there are are many factor that go into this though. it's not simply a matter of wisdom, education, or intelligence. I'd rather go slow and say what I really mean though rather than sacrifice the value of words to try and keep up with other people.

[@noelf9791]

Yes I could too wish this also, too

[@rudipell90]

@@bsamaniac305 where does wisdom come from? Experience is one but you must have a basis of knowledge to talk about. I'm sure he must be reading around 40-60 books per year. Look up how many books the average CEO reads a year and you'd be surprised. And no, time isn't an excuse.

[@TheKarasworld]

sitting in the library, pretending to study for six hours, watching jordan peterson.

[@NgenerationStudios]

did you at least get half an hour's worth of studying done? looks like the next 5.5 hrs are a reward then lol

[@MrMiclud]

You wasted a lot of time, listening to a demagogue, who just says what you want to hear. he is very good at that, but he is only telling a very ones side story, a fairy tale

[@cmusba220]

I hope you fail your classes

[@fairtaxhtown]

MrMiclud ha haha hahahaha - as intellectual a rebuttal as yours

[@Unconcerned_Orange]

TheKarasworld I feel attacked 😂

[@dannysmith785]

I was at a BBQ last weekend and on one side of the garden I had a conversation with a woman who was complaining that as the bread winner, her husband had no idea of the strains and pressure she was under, because he just gets to sit at home all day and look after the kids. On the other side of the garden was a woman complaining that her husband had no idea of the strains and pressure she was under as a mother, because he is at work all the time so has it easy....

[@djohnsveress6616]

Tell Them, to sit down and talk... It Helps a lot to actually speak with the other.

[@kinkgirl88]

The grass is greener on the other side

[@robertr392]

The grass is always greener.

[@MrOrnithopterman]

That's also a bit of a cognitive bias most people have. People tend to overestimate their abilities and underestimate the effort others put into a project (be it family or work related)

[@masada2828]

The hardest job is the parent at home with 2+ pre-schoolers: a house to clean, washing, shopping, meal preparation. After you finish cleaning then picking up after them who seek to undo your hard work.

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

God..... it is May, 2020 and Jordan has been dealing with health issues for many months and I _really_ miss him :( Please, please.... PLEASE get well soon, so that you may thrive again and fill the world with such wonderful words :)

[@user-pf5tz6jh3l]

Are u serious? D:

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

Absolutely! I am I to presume you are trolling pro-JBP video's for comments in which to disagree?

[@user-pf5tz6jh3l]

@@NinjaKittyBonks wut No no, you got it wrong. I'm actually really concerned about it. I did not know he is having health issues right now. I really apreciete his work Also, what does JBP mean?

[@NinjaKittyBonks]

OH, gosh.... my apologies @Jorge R :) I am surprised you have not heard. Long story short and as I understand it, was having some nasty downside of medication that was prescribed. It is a very heavy drug, but ultimately was unable to ween himself off of it. I don't know all the details, so won't speculate, but he was is real bad shape for many months and have heard he is on the mend currently. I have been a fan of JBP (Jordan B. Peterson) for a couple years now and have unfortunately been targeted by a number of people who search his videos and find positive comments with which to pass along some hate toward Jordan. When I read your "Are u serious?" comment, I read it as you being disappointed in my wishes of good health to Jordan. This video was posted over 3 years ago and have had a number of trolls who must keep an eye on older Jordan videos, as I have met some really serious haters out there that are more than happy to see him suffer and actually wish him to be dead.... I am not kidding. Anyway, I am always happy to meet and engage conversation with another fan of JBP. He is a true hero to me and not even in the slightest way uneasy about saying that :) Peace, Jorge

[@user-pf5tz6jh3l]

@@NinjaKittyBonks hahah, don't worry, I bet there are a lot of haters out there, it's a shame. I feel really bad that I didn't know he was having such problems, hopefully he gets better. He is a great man and a real inspiration. Btw.. JBP... I'm so dumb hahaha, it was so obvious. Have a good day! :)

[@drizer4real]

This so brutal and honest, it’s the slap in the face we all need sometimes.

[@blackspring3207]

Jordan peterson is a bitch

[@plankalkulcompiler9468]

Peterson loves to use irrational terms and resources to support his conservative ideas. He is a manipulator as that is his profession and he is well-known for that. He isn't a politician and says so to be seem as a neutral but he is a secret conservative, as it can be understood from his point of view towards political correctness, identity politics and so on.

[@cloudsboys1976]

black spring that is the pinnacle of your stupidity and ignorance right there.

[@johndavidmanuel2189]

@@plankalkulcompiler9468 Does that denies he's claims and facts?

[@plankalkulcompiler9468]

@@johndavidmanuel2189 his claims and made-up facts aren't objective, but made subjectively from a conservative view of point, even that he denies to be a one. The arguments he is well known to deny are important segments of political corretness, the he lack of as a man of another profession.

[@BlueMelonCream]

"There's no gratitude for what our society is capable of doing" spot on

[@sniperfuazo6495]

especially when you think about it in nature"s standpoint i mean it fucking crazy and great on how every single item around us came.. like intergrated circuit , your food you eat every day , tools and the history behind those item that we use

[@pushthetempo2]

I don't get why people think being the CEO of a big company is such an amazing job. Just like he says, its bloody murder and you work a lot and are always under pressure. You have to be a very particular type of person.

[@ismailmiah1446]

Maybe the salary

[@antiwiseclock1499]

Perceiving the benefits of something is easy, actually doing the work to achieve those benefits is an entirely different ballgame.

[@ismailmiah1446]

@@antiwiseclock1499 true but some do get the opportunity and alot don't. ..it's often luck

[@antiwiseclock1499]

@@ismailmiah1446 Certainly, but it's not because they're a woman.

[@ismailmiah1446]

@@antiwiseclock1499 agreed

[@ClipSkipper]

"If you were half crazy, and you have a lot of money, you are going to be crazy a lot faster. Because it frees you from all the constraints." - Purely genius.

[@Annie261.]

ClipSkipper frees you, not freezes you

[@elmango705]

I think that sums up Kanye perfectly 😂

[@nemo227]

The smartest women I know started their own businesses instead of depending on someone else to pay them what they wanted. It's the same thing for men. The world doesn't owe anyone a high paying job. Somebody has to provide the jobs; they don't simply materialize from the sky . . . or government. Without people starting businesses there would be no government fed by the taxes of people working.

[@claremchugh5005]

He's so spot on . As a middle aged practicing clinician I absolutely and deliberately made a decision as JP describes and so did nearly every single other practicing woman I know ... and they are top performing people . One of the primary reasons I'm no longer able to think of myself as a feminist and a liberal is the absolute lack of respect for my accomplishments and choices ... all of which have proven pretty damn good . No one can have it all and choices have to be made .

[@jeffbridges5312]

Which is exactly why that information needs to get out to young women: 95% of professional women just completely drop out after a few years- doctors, attorneys, engineers, etc. So ALL of that money spent on your education (that most will still be paying back for decades) ALL WASTED. For NOTHING. So WHY even bother? Not to even mention the fact that you prob got into college ahead of a male with better grades because of Affirmative Action in colleges and universities; a man who would have become a doctor and stayed working for LIFE. But most women are so amoral and shameless today they don't even care, they even think it's funny that you fucked over a man by cheating, not to mention society in general. What pieces of shit as human beings. And society needs as many GOOD and RELIABLE doctors as possible, not just some silly little girls wanting to play doctor for a couple of years and just getting the way and because more women are going to medical school because of this absolute STUPIDITY there will be a doctor shortage in the future. Really, REALLY fucking STUPID.

[@claremchugh5005]

Jeff Bridges Yikes , tell me how you feel Jeff . Your sounding pretty hateful , maybe even jealous . I'm truely sorry if you perceive yourself to be oppressed . Here's a reality check , before you go attacking people look into factual subject matter . As for myself , I set the curve in nearly every class I took . I, like tons of professional woman worked for years , took a hiatus to tend my other responsibilities and enjoy being part of the work force again . You sound like the 3rd wave radical feminists who also have an utter lack of respect for woman who decide there are lots of things more important than the corporate ladder . Shame on you . BTW , no affirmative action for me asshole .

[@amythompson6431]

Wow...sexist much?

[@amythompson6431]

She doesn't have to accuse you of being a misogynist..because , well....you proved it! White men have had unspoken affirmative action for centuries, and you can't handle successful women now....smh...sounds like a fragile ego to me...

[@claremchugh5005]

Steve Fenton sounds like someone didn't do there homework Steve . What an angry diatribe . Your head does not strike me as a very productive , honest , pleasant place to reside . I hope you figure it out for yourself and do well .

[@nicholascarlona3247]

I shit you not, I was at a bar about two weeks ago listening to two women lamenting the fact that they had both landed good jobs, but they couldn't work part time and they really wanted a family. I actually felt bad. But I was too afraid to enter the conversation, because if I suggested that maybe societal pressures had pushed them into places where they wouldn't be happy and that it's OK to try and find someone to have children with I would probably get the shit kicked out of me.

[@NightH4wkG4ming]

you probably wouldn't have these two women sounded like they were having a moment of ''wtf am i doing'' you should of said those exact things to them bid them good day and off you go home you probably would of saved them a lot of brain ache in the long run, or they would of called you a sexist pig, and still realised later down the line that were right lol

[@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164]

Yes, they would have jumped all over you and clawed you to pieces and called you a Misogynist Pig while walking away. It's best to leave them to their misery.

[@arlenepacker7900]

Nicholas Carlona They might have asked if you were offering to help them with their goal of having a family, lol! Then you would have ran as fast as you could toward the exit.

[@Chewy427]

Or, you know, maybe not everyone is fucking insane and knows how to have a conversation.

[@gunlovingurls9200]

Its totally true I would have started a family years ago.

[@adrianscott2757]

I wish there were more Jordan Peterson’s out there to run things. Video title is unfair - it’s not a ‘RANT’ it’s an informed lecture.

[@jensarnikjaerbaek]

1 is enough

[@CamConscious]

jk definitely not

[@malindaeckert2300]

All words are neutral, but your social programming of the word "rant" got you to click on it didn't it Rant is just as adequate a word as any.. plus it's efficiently 4 letters 😉

[@radenv1001]

It's literally the definition of a rant. He's not citing any of his data for one lol, and he just rambles on and on

[@wamyx8Nz]

@@radenv1001 To be fair this seemed like a more Q&A type format. If you're giving an invited talk then sure you can put together pretty slides with all your references listed. Thinking on your feet and using real-world examples relatable to your audience is much more difficult.

[@metalstorm7506]

Reading Jordan Peterson’s books and listening to his online lectures did improve my life. But man, I love watching him ranting about stuff, or arguing with someone. I get in the mood for eating popcorn and feel sorry for his opponents ... an innocent guilty pleasure I frequently indulge myself with, haha

[@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594]

Yea I really think that his work on life is where he really shines

[@Alaric11]

So much knowledge packed into 13 minutes its astonishing.

[@omarsameh5007]

well let me tell you that Alaric , im muslim and our prophet mouhammed said , the knowledge you get and you don't use this knowledge is like a man setting on table and so hungry and then he grab the food but instead of eating it he throwing it behind his back , i make so much research in my life and get so much knowledge about alot of things but i find out because i don't use this knowlege in my life , then the knowledge in that time will be waste of time , same thing in this video , if you do like hes saying then the knowledge and time you got them worth it , but watch the video without use this knowledge in your life then its waste of time buddy

[@duderock10111]

Did he say that before or after he married and raped his 12 year old wife?

[@abdullahatahir786]

That information is totally incorrect, please educate yourself duderock, ignorant dumbasses like you are why there's more discrimination, there are no material that support that.

[@eltonjesus69]

wrong she was 9

[@MrRaindog]

Hooray! A comment, short and entirely positive, has devolved into more pointless religious bickering. Haven't seen this before on the internet... But yes, I've watched this talk three times in full and various pieces of it more than enough but there 's always another morsel to absorb.

[@TotalRookie_LV]

He's absolutely right about extra money. What's it good for, if you have no free time to use it? So, unless your job is also your hobby and all you want to do, there is no point in getting into those tough top positions.

[@mongislort6440]

If I had alot of money, I would hire someone to do my job while I'm the president and play golf

[@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062]

or you have a massive ego to feed

[@JoelLS101]

then that person you pay, realizes they dont need you and force you out of your own company.. you have no way to stop it because you have no idea it has happened until you are in the unemployment line.

[@jkumadapharaoh8514]

lol you develop systems and hire others to do the work. Once you make it to that point that is what's left to do

[@summonsays2610]

@Anon ymous I used to think I'd get a nice flex job, and work less hours as my $/hr increased, so work less and get paid the same. That is still my daydream, but that's just not how the world works. You realistically can't even go your route. I mean you can, but you better pray you're never in a car accident or have a serious medical issue for the rest of your life (assuming you live in 'Merica).

[@formula1fan992]

He said all the things I wish I could say in public without being called names

[@griffinina]

You know what? He’s right. I’m a female in my 30s and I’m now started thinking why should I stay working for other people as “management”. I want a balance life, I want my weekends as a recharge time instead of suddenly has to go to work because of last minute meeting being scheduled. I don’t want to be super rich, I just want to be rich enough not to worry about day-to-day life finances, can afford to travel anytime I want and can buy anything I want, and other important thing in life such as housing and health. Also, to have enough cash as a safety net when I’m old.

[@BleedingHeartsFade]

Abwj W not if you follow Dave Ramsey and know how to budget your money properly.

[@sensue3297]

I drew a line in the sand when I turned 36 and decided that for myself. I had been a work-aholic and did nothing but work myself to the ground. It started affecting me physically, mentally, and emotionally - so, I put a stop to it. Now, I work 40 hours and stop. Working extra did nothing for my career; in a nutshell, my bosses were paying me a salary and then taking advantage of my ambitious nature to climb the ladder. They dangled higher positions in front of me, then yanked them away when I got close enough. It wasn't worth it. I have enough money that I am secure. I know finding a 'man' at this point of my life who won't simply marry a pretty twenty-year old is low, so I focused on becoming a foster mother. It's not where I thought my life would end up - I thought I would be vice president by now... but, I wasn't one of those insane people. I also follow Dave Ramsey - he honestly helped me get my life together. @bleedingheartsfade. Now, I'm working to pay off my mortgage as fast as possible.

[@Biscuit9891]

Your health should be #1. If you don't have your health you have nothing.

[@paulanger2048]

It sounds like you want to be pretty rich. Buy anything you want? Travel is expensive. You must have expensive taste. Unless you are amazingly efficient, or lucky, you will have to work very hard.

[@O.i5]

“Hes right” yet you wanna buy anything you want, travel whenever you want, definitely sounds like you want to be rich

[@bjornsandberg6718]

bad title, its not really a rant, just a great talk

[@dnw009]

It's as close to a rant of Peterson as you are gonna get besides him just screaming I suppose.

[@alexw4827]

These video titles are common to attract more people to the video, of course it is not a rant

[@bn880]

IMO this is a rant, but one of the best rants ever :)

[@crucisnh]

Yeah, it's not really a rant. More like just a person talking about what he passionately believes in.

[@djohnsveress6616]

"Rant" is okay, I mean it was a Rant, it showed why todays Feminism have no point nor clue. Also Clickbait is needed, Ppl uses these "Dramatical" Like "He is not Ordinary man !!!!

[@norwegianblue2017]

Can we just clone Peterson and put him in charge of the newly formed Department of Common Sense?

[@twowolves435]

Ahahaha

[@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523]

sheople would murder them.. they didnt like Jesus interuppting their matrix either who can see this?

[@janesmith4271]

It's to late for common sence our children are being educated in socialism and its destroying the US.

[@Adri9570]

There is a video called: (Full version) Jordan Peterson vs Peter Jordanson. It's funny, and the closest depiction we have about a clone of him.

[@a2ndopynyn]

@@yourangelinfleshorsackclot1523 - _"who can see this?"_ *raises hand*

[@joemiknor]

this is not a "rant". this is truth.

[@welon17]

You can rant about the truth. Because the truth, tbe facts, the reality, is gonna be filled with bullshit you don't like.

[@DieFlabbergast]

You misunderstand the word "rant." The word does NOT imply lack of truth. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[@markowayanda1714]

Exactly

[@fruthruthathruup]

no this is straight up a rant. he is irritated and blows through his thoughts without acknowledging when the audience reacts (laughs to what he says). my reaction to this is "wow, this guy is really pissed off for some reason". he's also not answering the question. he's just trying to make it sound like the positions of power are not something women should want, which is pretty weird. he always comes across as being thoughtful about stuff. but if you really think about what he's saying, there's a ton of creepy sexist undertones. and when he's ranting, you don't have a moment to digest it and realize what he's actually saying. he's saying some pretty wacky shit. I would stay away from this guy on the street

[@Romulus1001]

Some might say that he's exaggerating these stories, but that's exactly his point. He's outlining the very extreme examples of individuals in the upper echelons of society who make up a fraction of a percent of the workforce that occupy these positions. He's arguing that people who occupy these positions aren't there because of corruption, but because of their competence, which bears an overwhelming amount of responsibility; a responsibility that the vast majority of people are ineffective at managing.

[@ergogray3143]

Life, Liberty, and the _Pursuit_ of Happiness. The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. -Benjamin Franklin

[@julijakeit]

The best answer to this question (why there's so few women in position of power) is answered by that few women in power and they will state the same thing as J. Peterson - it's insane competition, long hours, you work from dawn till dusk by yourself and you are addicted to power, you get your kicks from being better than your competition even if it is a petty thing (like a bonus).

[@lorainisrael]

Indeed, I work as an adviser with men of power, I admire them but would never want to be on their place. They are so competitive and energetic, I don't have such energy, and while I'm ambitious, I'm not competitive at all. I would rather help them to succeed and get my bonuses from that, instead of fighting for the power against such unstoppable people. I enjoy working full time, but full time for me is about 6 hours of productive work a day, no more than that.

[@TariqBusy]

5:30 He just revealed an interesting point. Men, back in the day, were content once the rent was paid and the family was taken care of. SO, the government and the banks, had to get women out of the home so that there would be a greater demand for goods and more money would be in the marketplace. Feminism has always been about, getting men to fear money and chase after it, in addition to boosting the tax base. Earlier in the video he points out that economic prosperity is tied to women's liberation, i.e. money and expenses kicked off with second-wave feminism and it isn't REALLY about gender equality, it's about banks. We broke down the AMerican Family for AMerican Express.

[@seanporcelli3965]

When I tell ppl I work 7 days a week they freak out and tell me they'd never do it.

[@robertmartin1254]

I work that much also. For over 30 years and I'm not rich. The pay is so low now u almost have to just to pay bills.

[@JASNSOUNDS]

"down with patriarchy!!" *wants successful husband*

[@GamePlayer775]

One of the most simple, yet truthful comments here

[@mrskrobs]

*who opens every door for her

[@TheEmpressNyx]

Hahaha, these feminists are ridiculous . . . You can’t have your cake and eat it too. They hate men and claim to be “independent” but they also want a successful Christian Grey type. Lmao

[@rhysdavies3479]

Since when was success associated with patriarchy?

[@TheEmpressNyx]

Rhys Davies Only masculine, assertive, and dominant men tend to be in positions of power. Effeminate or beta men cannot be leaders of men, because they lack the charisma, ability to maintain control of themselves and others, and the confidence needed to lead. So it makes no sense that a feminist, who hates “the patriarchy”, feels entitled to a CEO or a successful entrepreneur or something like that, when all of the men who are in those positions are traditionally masculine. I’ve never met a sissified boss man. Bottom line is, if feminists hate “toxic masculinity”, then why should they feel they want a masculine man?

[@SirLeDoux]

I could listen to him all day- he’s spot on with so many things.

[@SeanDaNerd]

A friend told me that her mom used to regularly wake up at 2 or 3 am to call Taiwanese clients and show up late to many personal things because of a 70+ hour work week. She would get paid $400-500 thousand per year, which is about 4x her husband’s salary (and they worked in the same engineering field). They have a house and other properties because of her work. But she got sick. When she got better, she realized her personal life had really suffered, and she found much more happiness when she prioritized her family and friends more. I know for a fact that my friend stopped bad mouthing her mom and just in general became smarter, less aggressive, more confident, and assertive. And the husband still made more than enough money to get by. They had enough to send my friend to 5 years of college without any financial aid while still keeping their houses. So I think Jordan is right. You have to be an insane, one in a thousand person to find true joy grinding through work like that.

[@kayceequesadilla]

What was wrong with your friend that he or she wasn't paying their own way through college? #CutTheCord

[@rebeccashields9626]

This man is a freaking genius.

[@lycan2494]

or maybe its just common sense.

[@isimikehinde5584]

It's common sense

[@KodaLeck]

I wonder what his IQ is and of hes in mensa

[@suzannes8479]

Not really

[@mono8476]

agreee

[@MsRickylynn]

I put my relationship first, and my financial gain is crap, but my man gets dinner every night, homemade cookies and a happy woman, he’s a happy man. I’m educated, ex business owner, now I’m a house wife with the best partner! I want my man to be happy.

[@johnwheeler5495]

my ideal woman.

[@armorsmith43]

But do you also treat yourself like someone you're responsible for taking care of?

[@emmanuelkevin7862]

Motherhood over carer 👏👏👏

[@stratant.8722]

I AM TRIGGERED

[@ogame5599]

I wish I can multiply more of u. A wonderful woman / wife will make a good man leave forever.

[@jeremiahm3765]

"it isn't that easy to figure out when something is working properly." Now THERE is a statement that we could all stand to chew on for a while. In regards to ourselves, and society as a whole.

[@OCDTraci]

I'm a 38 year old female who never felt the urge to have children. I am unmarried. And I am busting my ass getting my business off the ground. It's something I could absolutely do for the rest of my life. Clearly I must be that rare 1 in a thousand. :)

[@PaolaHuezo]

OCDTraci I’m 25 and I feel the same. I never had a desire to have kids, working since I was 13, now working in institutional banking and I graduate with my finance degree this weekend, my passion is the banking industry, but I love it. Not everyone is meant to have kids and be married, never cared for it. Sometimes you just know what life you want, but we must be those rare folks.

[@neemadania120]

Thank you, I feel safe here.

[@marinoderienzo3176]

Y'all are rare. Wish your genes were present in more children. *stares at camera*

[@wolflegion]

I don’t think he said 100 percent.

[@borledx]

@@PaolaHuezoHeidi your 25, I am not trying to be funny but you don't have a clue! You couldn't have a clue because you havent been alive long enough to have 1. Hopefully you will wise up before its too late. I don't know 1 woman whos middle aged, single and childless who is not a bitter harridan, NOT 1!!

[@mrshah2043]

The guy sitting next to Peterson, his face is fucking hilarious during this.

[@MissLoveSong]

This guy is so spot on about how people that are at the top had to work bloody hard to get there, and are still working insanely hard. If I ever reach the top or close to it, I'll hate having to give away 40% of my pay just because I worked harder than anyone else to get there. Also in regards to women in the workplace (I'm a girl, early twenties), I've had trouble with every girl I've had to share a workload with. I work my ass off to get higher up and because of that have earned a lot of respect from the team. The other girls feel threatened and instead of stepping it up, they just try to bring me down by picking out any small mistake I make and making sure everyone in the office knows I messed up. All the guys I work with on the other hand are just grateful when I take some of their workload away, and in return help me when I need it.

[@kelseyw527]

Alioth 11 just because you work 80 hours a week doesn't mean you deserve millions of dollars.... many people work their ass off and make minimum wage. You sound ignorant. Also generalizing about the women and the men you work with....Kind of brutal. I know a lot of men like the women you describe and I know a lot of women like the men you describe. Stop generalizing. "Men are like this.... women are like this..."Treat people as individuals and life will be easier for you.

[@immortalstranger8532]

Kelsey Wright People who work for minimum wage generally have very easy jobs. And if I had to work 80 hours a week then I wouldn't expect anything less than millions of dollars.

[@Ateka9]

Go work as a coal miner in China and tell me how much that 80 hours a week gets you. Or maybe on a clothing production line in Bangladesh or Pakistan. Those people work harder than any lawyer in fucking NYC.

[@christophermallett8166]

Kelsey Wright actually YOU sound ignorant. She is not generalising, she is talking about her experience, there is a difference. Her example was specific to her place of work. Not everyone's. Get off your high horse and stop judging people with your PC bullshit.

[@kelseyw527]

Christopher Mallett how is anything I said PC? It's common sense . So I'm on a high horse for telling her to treat both men and women as individuals and stop generalizing? Lol okay ....

[@dr.apollo4226]

So that’s why women live 7 years longer than men. They don’t waste their lives away at work.

[@FuturePast2019]

But they "waste" their white kids away. No but the new stardard is 2 kids. 3 was standard before the 70s...

[@Gyvulys]

@@FuturePast2019 3 should always be standard. 1 kid isn't even a family. 2 is just barely reaching replacement level. 3 (at least) is the way to go. By the way, why do they "waste" their kids away, as you say? And why "white"?

[@FuturePast2019]

@@Gyvulys I wrote "no" or "Not really" to "They don’t waste their lives away at work." Do you have a better reason for why white (and far eastern) women have 2 kids and not 3. (like you agree on)

[@kayceequesadilla]

Raising kids is work. It's a different kind of stress. Being responsible for the safety and well-being of little, vulnerable, inexperienced humans is high-pressure. It's just high-pressure over more of the long-haul. I've known an inordinately high number of people who have committed suicide in their young adulthoods, as well as people whose children committed suicide in their young adulthoods. The mothers in those families FAILED. The Father's were horrible, too, but the suicides were the results of the actions and inactions of the mothers, not the fathers. When you approach motherhood with that knowledge, you understand that the stakes are higher on your end.

[@valearguello6129]

I hate that people think work is a “waste” cause that’s the reason why so many people are mediocre at what they do, they don’t enjoy what they do, they see it as a torture instead of a profession

[@angelwild9145]

I’m a feminist, and I think Joran Peterson is Fantastic! I don’t find him offensive one bit. There is absolutely nothing offensive to me about anything at all he has said in this lecture.👍

[@rupeshkhode3244]

Egalitarianism is better.

[@rupeshkhode3244]

Best of luck with marxism

[@itstriplem2069]

I guess good, then, but in my opinion, Egalitarianism is better because feminism is for women, not men. Men got problems too and the MRA activists are seen as sexists, which is retarded since I know a few female ones out there.

[@lakeeriejew]

You're no longer a feminist if you don't find JP offensive....

[@jrbrangrain6900]

@@lakeeriejew This is typically what one sided view person will say. Why do you need to feel offended when it is the truth. If you are going to sugar pick all your choices, don't u think it is unfair for other?

[@LanSu11i3]

I like how entertained the guy beside Jordan Peterson is.

[@MyTreadmill2012]

I was waiting for someone to comment this!

[@GregoryKupershmidt]

He has all the reasons for...

[@adsones]

He's glowing, radiating satisfaction. Always with a discreet smile on his face.

[@Threepwoot]

Holy Shit I just came intellectually! The feeling when someone just sits there and explains what you feel SO. DAMN. WELL! Thank you sir - decency is among the things we lack most today.

[@Threepwoot]

Whats wrong with that? What I mean by decency is how you behave, what you interpret as insult and what not, how u treat your fellow human beings and whether or not you have a DECENT view on reality or not. By decency i didn't mean what you mean - being sexually prudish.. which is what you are if the word "come" makes u feel so awkward.

[@insideout2600]

Threepwoot he's suggesting your misplacing the word decency , and bringing sex into play where there is none . simply put , your playing a card , and the lecturer is not " on your side " he's doing his job . in short its not all about you .

[@Threepwoot]

what are u talking about playing a card, not on my side?! I dont understand you a bit

[@CardboardOdyssey]

YEA DUDE FUCKIN EPIKKKK I JUST CAME INTLECTUALLY IM FUCKIN EPIKKK DUUUDE YOU WIN ONE BILLION INTARNETS GOOD SIR!!! YOU ARE FUCKIN EPIKKK GOOD SIR!!

[@cmusba220]

Threepwoot You need to get out more

[@robertrodriguez9659]

This is what being really woke looks like.. Respect!

[@Hbmd3E]

.. aand + 150 + IQ

[@AmitRoy-mx2vu]

JP is woke af

[@wantedstream5954]

It’s not woke, it’s based

[@nativecompanion1562]

This is possibly the best Jordan Peterson clip on KZbin.

[@marinoderienzo3176]

He's said parts of it throughout all his other videos, but I always enjoy hearing them again.

[@shirleylove979]

damn he is spot on spot on

[@cavedweller9352]

Shirley love Scrolling through the comments to find women lol

[@abdellatifdalab2224]

lmao bro

[@CEOofSleep]

4984+87

[@loganjammin5977]

Cave Dweller's comments might be creepy out of context, but there's a good point in it. We really need women to endorse JBP, or else the people writing slanderous articles about him are just going to keep chipping at his sanity, turning people against him, and demonizing his audience. It's bad. We need more women speaking up and vouching for JBP.

[@PaighamBot]

:*

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

WOW, the audience actually listened!

[@TheTyme99]

4T3hM4kr0n! Yeah, that's what happens at most good university's

[@mono8476]

if they dont then all hope is all for the next gen

[@otakuanime8975]

Must be a male audience

[@nachiketh3650]

Yes because they're Canadian.

[@patrickhealey951]

This man deserves so much better. It kind of breaks my heart how some people view him. He's highly intelligent, highly sensitive and cares deeply about helping those that he can. People are so cruel and lack intellectual curiosity.

[@SR-oc7fc]

The 1920's guy on the cover of the Monopoly box is actually Kylie Jenner in 2019. She's not working 80 hours a week.

[@radoslavgeorgiev4960]

Susan Rose i bet you she actually is, though...

[@hardToSignUpHere]

Sure thing, though it is not terribly likely she is hauling heavy sacks all day!

[@hardToSignUpHere]

@@radoslavgeorgiev4960 She does what she enjoys, good for her!

[@ritikasharma8949]

She's literally just the face of the company..product if made and packaged by some other company..her mother takes 10% and handle her finances...she literally just sit in front of camera and look good

[@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594]

@@radoslavgeorgiev4960 Isn't she just an instagram model? I doubt if she wasn't related to the Jenners nor the Kardashians she would be as successful. Just an instagram model like the rest

[@Chimpmanboom]

I talked to my mom about this who is married to a doctor and hasn't worked in over 2 decades. She met my father in medical school. She ended up being number 2 in the class and my dad number 3. She chose to forgo her career and she said it was the best decision she ever made being a stay at home mom even having graduating medical school.

[@Chimpmanboom]

And I was always told by both of them to never be ashamed of my fortunate life but be appreciative of it and use it to benefit others.

[@solarisxyz3405]

depends on the man you marry and choose to give up your carreer for. My mother can tell you another story. Not every marriage ends up making the right decision and not every woman finds the right man to marry. There is no right decision for it. Some are better of with a career and others with a husband and a family. Some even have both. I hate when people argue about how women should live their lives. We are all different and every one should live the way they want.

[@deicide6403]

mental illness and adultery? what court will favor that? is your moms lawyer a 5 yr old? sounds fake.

[@deicide6403]

Dalia Ramos i didnt refute that women should give up their careers. i just called bullshit on your story. why would you even say "charming" and "female" if it doesnt imply seducing? read your comment and the context of it. if youre really a law student, an adulterer loses their chances in a battle. look at tiger woods and arnold. their bank accounts didnt do the talking but took a hit instead.

[@lovejunkie490]

SWOLESILVERBACK some of them like It some don't . It's all about personal choice

[@kevrev0]

"To the degree that rights are extended to women, economic prosperity follows." Do ya'll trolls in the comment section just ignore that line?

[@blastmedia3218]

kevrev0 no ones suggesting removing women's rights just that they shouldn't be given special treatment

[@dancingsocrates9491]

Amen kevrev0. And there are plenty of men who would gladly remove women's rights. Just look at the comments section to see how many men support this saying women need to "know their place". Personal autonomy does not mean special treatment.

[@elizabethh.415]

Dancing Socrates You took one comment written by an idiot to prove how bad and sexist men are. I'm so tired of this victim mentality. Men make up 80% of suicide victims, 92% of work place deaths, 97% of combat deaths and 77% of homicide victims. If these statistics applied to women, we would say they’re evidence of womens’ oppression by men. Seriously girl, get your head out of your ass.

[@CCubes88]

Elizabeth H. Those statistics are caused more by men themselves than because of women though. Whereas what the OP said specifically related to the males view of women. Those statistics don’t disprove her/his point sweetheart

[@dnw009]

@@CCubes88 Atleast specify that suicide deaths are not caused by men themselves, it's a lot more complicated than that. Work place deaths is because women refuse to work those jobs and someone has to so that isn't because of men. Combat deaths are because of men only because they were the ones ruling, if women ruled we might see similar things or differen't no data so pure speculation. and Homicide victims are due to men. So those statistics Partially disprove his/her point sweetheart. It also was not in response to OP but rather Dancing Socrates who took a comment(or multiple) on the internet and thought people were serious with what they typed. And about the special treatments, you often hear that we need more women in CEO positions .. well. If you want to be a CEO, or be on the board of directors of a big corporation? Get an education, or an entry-level job in your preferred industry. Work 60-70 hour weeks for years on end, billing only 40, of course. Take no vacations. Never get sick. Choose not to have kids, or have kids and let your husband take care of them while you work and never get to see them. Have no social life outside of work. Always be available. Miss family get-togethers, birthdays, graduations and school plays. Never turn down an opportunity to take on more responsibilities. And you might be successful in the CEO position your holding, if you don't screw up once because then you're done. But the likelyhood you'll be happy with this type of life is so small you might aswell not go for it unless you are damn sure you are the small percent of women who likes that.

[@TheDarkever]

Wow, even if I don't always particularly enjoy Peterson's "direct as a train" attitude, his ideas and his exposition are simply brilliant! Maybe it's exactly his directness that makes them so clear.

[@kofiofosu9051]

In order to be happy while working hard, you have to like hard work and be joyful about overcoming the associated challenges. The kind of person who relishes in accomplishing the things that most people can barely dream of accomplishing.

[@cybnblau]

This is a wall of sheer fact. Peterson covers it all inside fifteen minutes. Brilliant.

[@fearmo2212]

I don't understand the hate comments in the comment section, This is suppose to be a good thing not a equality flame war.

[@indigopher1583]

yea, like i dont agree with everything this guy says all the time, and i identify as like a /raging/ feminist. but hes right. work/life balance is a huge part of why women dont want to make it to the top. why would they? i feel like the rampant misogyny in the comments section kind of takes away from this guys argument, cuz hes usually very right about so many things, and he makes sense. but then you scroll down and a buncha hicks are like "yea! rape women!" like..... thats not what he said, and im pretty sure thats not what he advocates.

[@Eirith]

not sure where you read "rape women" in these comments, I've been scrolling through them for quite a while now. While I'm delighted you're insightful enough to listen to constructive arguments and think freely for yourself as a feminist, I would also like to point out that anyone that talks about the biological differences between men and women, ie testosterone making men more aggressive and competitive, doesn't mean they're bat shit crazy. Testosterone is what built the west if you really think about it. The constant war against the other man to be the dominant male. It doesn't necessarily mean they beat each other with clubs and then drag women into caves and rape them senselessly. Again, I don't know if that's where you derived that narrative from, but that would be my best guess. I have absolutely no intention of trying to start a flame war.

[@FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey]

@@indigopher1583 wtf r u on about

[@wowerman]

You have problems distinguishing hate and people with opinions you do not agree with. Now everyone being on different side of subject is taken as hate speech preacher?

[@mattstah9319]

An amazing amount of knowledge. Never heard such insightful things spoken. Enlightening.

[@mikelibilcieta]

I would really like to hear him talk more about what he meant when he said "Freedom and happiness, those are not the same thing, they're not even close!"

[@AlexanderHyll]

I think he's referring to, which he has spoken of before, the problem of people not being very good at discerning what they want from what makes them happy in relation to the paradox of choice. If you have more things to choose from you become more indecisive, and as a consequence, if you're not perfectly happy with the choice you made you compare it with the alternatives, making you regretful. The result of this is a human with more freedom and less happiness. That said you definitely gain happiness up to a certain degree from having freedom, but there is a diminishing return and ultimately a negative relation, at least that's what the data suggests. Of course, I can't speak for him but that is my interpretation.

[@Alternamaton]

What part of that statement is confusing? Freedom and happiness are two different things.

[@roquat1]

@@Alternamaton so is freedom unhappy? Or is slavery happy? I find it hard keeping Peterson's windy generalities straight.

[@girlwriteswhat]

This is one of the reasons why I love Peterson. Whenever I hear a feminist say women should have a right to walk anywhere without fear and the fact that they can't is because of "patriarchy", I keep thinking of the squirrels outside my house. They are ALWAYS on high alert. They hop a few feet and then pause to assess their safety, then hop another few feet, then pause and look around. You walk by with your dog, and they freeze in instinctive terror so as not to be noticed. You can see their sides pumping like a forge bellows as they fill their system with oxygen so they can run for their lives. Sometimes I imagine I can see their pulses thumping in their throats with the force of their heartbeats, as their little systems prime themselves for immediate flight should the dog notice them and give chase. We are less likely to die of physical trauma than at any point in history--whether it's conspecific violence from another human, or being hunted and eaten by a large predator, or falling off a cliff or being killed in a natural disaster. It is almost entirely men (with the support of their women) who have beaten back the wilderness for us. It is men who have conceived, invented and delivered the comfort and safety we currently enjoy, and who continue to maintain this at considerable risk, sacrifice and discomfort to themselves. They conceived and created the very social, political and legal structures that STAVE OFF true oppression in the west, such as due process of law, burden of proof, reasonable doubt and the presumption of innocence (structures feminists are currently attempting to dismantle in the legal areas within their bailiwick). And men in power just cave into their demands and hand them more and more, marginalizing the very group of people who hold up the entire thing. There IS no gratitude on the part of these insane women. There IS no realization that without the edifice of civilization men have constructed, women would be plunged into an existence so abject, deprived and perilous they can't even imagine what it might be like. But, you know, women still sometimes get dicked when they don't want it despite it being against the law, and only 5% of Fortune 500 companies are run by women, so "oppression!" Bill Whittle did a video ages ago called (I think) "three and a half days". His solution for all of these problems is to send these whining SJWs naked into the wilderness for 1/100th of the year, every year. Surviving in that environment, and having to do it once every year, might teach them how privileged they really are, and instil some freaking gratitude.

[@idk-jy6cc]

karen straughan I mean, maybe if women were allowed to leave the house without the accompaniment of a man for the greater part of modern society (which they weren't) we would have had more women creating things that you cling so hard on to to justify your hyper-masculinity. The more you bash the feminine the more you set yourself up for failure because you are denying a part of yourself. But I'll let you teach yourself and catch up on your own because I already know further conversation with you will be useless. I hope you heal your inner traumas that make you fear your feminine so much.

[@Powertuber1000]

Rylee... "maybe if women were allowed" doesn't that tell you something about the reality of our existence and who created that existence that you despise so and naively deny. The false premise from the beginning of feminism was that men were "given" rights that women weren’t allowed, when in reality men accepted rights that women didn't want, both rights and responsibilities, because women lacked the dynamic capability to assume those rights and responsibilities as uncreative subordinate receivers, due to reproduction and gender evolutionary brain differences.

[@idk-jy6cc]

Powertuber1000 women legally couldn't have their names on checking accounts until 1974. Women had to ask for that right, we wanted it and we're not allowed it by legal systems ran by men. Now men have systematically caused women to ruin feminism for themselves (via "3rd wave feminism") I do agree that women are denying their natural roles but that is only because we have been conditioned by patriarchal systems to believe that our natural roles are subordinate. Which they are not.

[@idk-jy6cc]

You called women, who brought you into this world, uncreative. Think about that.

[@idk-jy6cc]

And I'm sure your lack of frontal lobe development is causing you such trouble in realizing this. If you want to throw minuscule biological differences into the mix.

[@StJoseph777]

This man is one of the most important voices alive today.

[@bronzeagesquirrel3517]

imagine thinking a self-help huckster guru is "important"

[@jp_03766]

@@bronzeagesquirrel3517 You are unbelievable ignorant and uneducated

[@kinneretmargalit8949]

Fascinating !!!! I never thought about it from this aspect

[@artkarounos816]

He is absolutely correct! I opened my company in 2009 and did exactly what he said worked for the time I opened my eyes until I closed them. I turned into an introverted monster with one focus . It was a fight against the world everyone tries to take you out , take your money and use you for their purpose. It was such an abusive environment and I started to like it . Finally I realized something had to change and thank God he got me out of that situation with a bruise because I was definitely headed for destruction.

[@funnyguise]

i appreciate my indoor plumbing and hot running water immensely!

[@Beeza2996]

*Michelle Bowen* I think you got “triggered” by this person’s comment so fast that you didn’t even realize what he/she was actually referring to. I don’t know if you even watched the whole freakin video but toward the end Dr. Peterson pointed out that, regarding wealth and standard of living, most people in the developed world today are in the top 1/10 of 1% (so top 0.1%) compared to the majority of people at the end of the 19th century. So this comment that *funnyguise* made 3 years ago had nothing to do with gender or feminism or anything remotely related to modern SJW issues. They were expressing their gratitude for having far more creature comforts than what are needed for mere survival...

[@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874]

Feminist: "Long work-weeks are Misogynist Patriarchy!" Economics Expert: "Not being willing to work long and hard will bring the collapse of society!"

[@chippledon1]

A much needed dose of perspective !!

[@rapturestudios3179]

There is so much wisdom in this video that most people could probably watch it 4 times and still be unpacking information. It still amazes me how many relevant and succinct ideas he shares in such a short period of time. Thanks for sharing Jordan

[@MaliciousMollusc]

What I've gathered from this message is that the reason there are so few ultra successful women; Is because to be ultra successful takes unreal amounts of effort, even males can barely do it. Nobody sane can become like Tony Stark. That's the entire premise. The idea of being as high functioning as Tony Stark is straight up too hard for any normal person to keep pursuing without sacrificing something significant. It's not because of some convoluted conspiracy that the whole world is against you (why would it even care?) ; It is because it is almost too damn hard for any human being to achieve. You can't be a superhero and the average person at the same time. It just doesn't work.

[@meghanachauhan9380]

I don't think so. Tony stark, bill gates, people on top of their fields had specialities adapted to their fields. Bill gates even had a smart home before the common guy had a computer at his home. Most of their success actually comes from their parents. Bill gates was born into a family which could afford a computer when they were extremely expensive. This gave him a edge over others. It's neo feudalism, just like most rags to riches stories, the parents give their children a financial or genetic advantage but yea if bil gates was a girl, he'd still be one of the richest people. He simply has a vision that most people don't and hes active enough to work on it. Most people don't have a vision, girls are generally even less ambitious than boys and even lesser people take a stand and even fewer people actually have that one final advantage to make it to the top. In fact most advantages people have are genetic, like Einstein having a different brain structure than most people or bill gates having the unique sharp motivation to do things his own way but genetics makes people crazy cuz they'll feel cheated and helpless in a game that was rigged even before they were born so I'll just shut up and sit in a corner just observing people nvm

[@MaliciousMollusc]

@@meghanachauhan9380 "most people don't have a vision" That's exactly what I mean. It takes a near impossible amount compared to a normal human. Tony Stark was able to build an arc reactor from bits of scrap metal in a cave. No way that's gonna happen for normal people

[@landychapman3]

@@meghanachauhan9380 go read Bill Gates real biography. Hint: CP/M and IBM contract. He bought MS-DOS from a garage tinkerer (basically) who had no connections to big business.

[@cgzwotblitz6671]

Agreed. It takes unreal determination to get to the top of this world. Ultimately you get what you work for to a large extent. Sure background etc helps but you still have to put in the effort to get the results

[@meghanachauhan9380]

@@MaliciousMollusc Tony stark built a arc reactor? Wut?

[@a2ndopynyn]

Good Lord. I've seen quite a few Jordan Peterson videos. This may well be _the most brutally logical discourse_ I've ever seen, from him or anyone else. No fear, no fucks to give. Masterful and brilliant.

[@Fulschermd]

I worked directly with a major CEO. He traveled constantly and was always working. I remember his wife telling me how she would love to have just 1 uninterrupted hour in a week with him.

[@barbiemas1677]

This is what I’d like to have heard when I asked my teacher why there are more men in positions of power than women, this is the reality today, thank you!

[@cgzwotblitz6671]

What did your teacher say?

[@batarang6385]

Damn, this was actually extremely good. Well said

[@byronmcduffy3485]

The man never "Rants". He is mostly, clear, concise and right, which happens if you take the time to research your material and try to eliminate your own biases.

[@michaelbrucato7180]

This single video has given me more wisdom, insight and hope about how to live than any philosophy, politics or religious video on KZbin. Solely because he address the core issues and history of gender differences. Jordan Peterson will forever be my favorite person in the world

[@billmarkelz]

Wow! Let me say it again...Wow! I broke this down into small segments. Paused it often to discuss with my wife. We have many times in the past touched on the very topics here presented. Yes He rambles from topic to topic but every topic hit home with us.

[@chacedo8993]

Freedom and happiness are not even close... so true, so very very true.

[@bloodyvitamin]

"freedom and happiness, those are not the same thing" might be one of the scariest sentences I've ever heard a man speak with regards to women's equality.

[@bloodyvitamin]

​@Ken MacDonald I'm not "sexist", I'm simply speaking from a feminist perspective, in the context of women historically having less social freedom than men. A man can say "freedom isn't that great" all he wants, women still deserve and will strive for the same freedoms. A sentence like that seems like a backhanded appeal to dissuade a woman from reaching the same kind of power if that is the life she so chooses. What exactly do you mean when you say men and women aren't equal? If you mean they are different, I agree.

[@joehorton5067]

@@bloodyvitamin Freedom and happiness are not inclusive. Example 1: You want to be the CEO of a large corporation. That means you give up having a life-work balance. To reach that pinnacle means work comes first. So, you give up a work-life balance for it. Which brings us to Example 2: You want a work-life balance that allows you have a family (or something similar that you enjoy). That means you won't be the CEO of a large corporation. I knew someone who had the opportunity to become a vice-president for the South American division of John Deere. He turned it down because he wanted to see his kids more than once a month. Happiness in one area sometimes means sacrifices in others.

[@bloodyvitamin]

@@joehorton5067 Yes of course being a CEO is not does not mean easy work. That isn't the point. The point is that historically, women have been denied the same freedoms that men are entitled to. My belief is that everyone should have equal opportunity to pursue any life path, whether that path is the homemaker or the CEO. In an egalitarian society, even if women do not choose careers in male-dominated fields and men do not choose to commit their lives to fatherhood, the feminism I believe in is that which encourages respect for both sexes pursuing either. That is what I meant by my comment.

[@sarahkay5167]

You're taking what he said out of context. He's saying that the responsibilities of work give you freedom at the price of happiness. There are some women who love working their ass off and having no family to be responsible for but those women are a minority. Believe it or not, men who prefer work to family aren't that common either, but they're told by society that they have no other choice. Literally no one is disputing that women should have equal career opportunities to men.

[@danihatton9535]

I don't like how this is titled a 'rant'. It's not a rant, it's a fantastic exploration of a politically delicate topic, done logically, and also engagingly. Bravo.

[@jonesangus2263]

My question is : "If gender equality was really about equality, why are we always talking about the TOP. More men are at the top sure, but more men are also at the bottom. Let's talk about the bottom this time."

[@waaargh2985]

Here’s how a guy’s mind works “Working on Saturday I will get double time, hell yeah”

[@KallusGarnet]

Wrong. working on Saturday: Married guy: Time away from wife and kids. Single guy: I need the money to buy something to attract a hot chick. Me: not like i have anything better to do.

[@rifleman4005]

Until he gets the tax bill - the more you make the more taxes you pay.

[@samyakhp4353]

@@KallusGarnet obviously, the priorities for a married men and unmarried men are different, so is the case for men and women, the priorities are very different.

[@hootstermcgibbon]

@@KallusGarnet lol sums it up

[@c_f0rce]

@@rifleman4005 You still keep more than you pay

[@davidschwartz5127]

Or replace a hoist drive coupling on a overhead crane at -29 F at 3:00 AM in morning!

[@nachiketh3650]

Sounds like that's coming from experience geez

[@davidschwartz5127]

@@nachiketh3650 Your right, January 1978, North Western, Pennsylvania, I was 32 years old, an experience I doubt I will ever forget as long as I live. I failed to mention the 3 of us doing the repair were work over 90 ft in the air. The best thing was the next morning my boss dressed in his 3 piece suit ask me why the job took so long!

[@blessd24]

I dont think I've ever watched a lecture twice in a row. But im going to right now. That was flat out fun.

[@Razi98]

I'm just thinking that I was _this_ close to applying and possibly getting into UoT or Ryerson four years ago... Then I would be listening to Jordan Peterson in-person... Wish I'd known more at that age...

[@Bigdoglittle]

Lol that last part at the very end was friggin hilarious. This guy is like a comedian of truth.

[@Daniwild1]

Thank you for your time. I was one of those crazy to succeed girls who worked hard through high school all the way through my Masters (3.9 GPA) and worked for a time at various jobs cause I was not sure what I wanted to do (actually some of my jobs were outside and mildly dangerous and didn't pay that great but I had to get the outdoors thing out of my system as I had spent so many years indoors for school) I finally got really sick after years of one and a half hours of sleep a day while working and was finally was awarded disability. My brain and body will never be the same. I work when I can in my own but it is nothing like what I was shooting for. Your video makes me reconsider my position on that issue. After this I had time to marry. My husband is a disabled vet and we do go through hard times financially but we have each other and realize that some things are more important than money. Sometimes we do make the mistake of envying the rich, cause a vacation or a trip to the spa would be nice and would be a relief from the relative poverty and boredom we do live in but when we compare our lives to those in certain countries or in other times we realize that you are right. I stop to think of what my life would have been like if I had been able to achieve all my goals; I think it might have been lonely and I know the money alone would not have made me happy. Now I do struggle with loneliness because the sick and disabled do get isolated in society and I wish I had more opportunities to get involved other than the hours I spend on research, writing and communicating with people online because online interaction is not the same as friends in person and people really feel free to be extremely rude to those they don't agree with online. It can be a hateful community if you deliberately interact even respectfully with those who have different opinions. What happened to the ability to disagree politely without attacking each other? Maybe you might do a video on that. Thinking about my propensity for intellectual activity and challenge I should probably write a book and actually finish it but have not become interested enough in any one thing yet to do so...I go from Neuroscience to different religions, to political science and various histories or the occasional strange obsession such as rare genetic diseases. Your video made me wonder how many people, male or female, would actually be happy at the top. It sounds like not many. I sometimes envy the hunter gatherer tribes who lack our comforts but spend 4 or 5 hours getting their food and the rest of the time telling stories and loving their kids. I worked so hard in high school so that I would be competitive that I took textbooks to family birthday parties and didn't have a relationship with hardly any of them. That was my choice but I thought society wanted me to make that choice. By the time I got home from school, did homework with 20 minutes to eat dinner with family and back to homework then it was time for chores and then bed. I didn't know there were any other options. I can't get that back. My niece and nephews from that time have moved on with their busy lives. Thanks for sharing. It makes me sad to think about these things but also I realize, as hard as life seems to me sometimes, it could have been worse especially if I made it to the top. By the way I need to change this picture since it was taken in my late 20s. I am 40 now.

[@GaryMFOak69]

How did this get lost in the comments???

[@Edith15425]

@@GaryMFOak69 ikr

[@lindseymarie2732]

I love his ideas, so androgynous yet informed. Awesome.

[@crystalm3th573]

Its like, AFTER AGES of taking the right of choice from women, now that they have been handed that right of choice.... They don't just want equality, they seem to want PRIVILEGES. They don't seem to know where they should draw the line and what is TOO MUCH and what choice makes their life worse if not slightly better. I love all these movements and I'm all for womens' rights. But its not the lack of freedom that stresses them out anymore, it's the choice of what to do with their rights and how to balance their work and life. It's sad.

[@kestrelraptorial689]

The saddest part is the government encourages the worst advice from being given to women and men alike since it breaks families, the men work and pay taxes, the women either work and so the government gets more taxes, or she goes on government support and becomes government-dependent, and the children get dumped in government schools and become government programmed and either future tax slaves or state dependents. There is only one big winner in this equation, and where is it? Who is really the only one getting all the fruits of everyone's labor?

[@kestrelraptorial689]

@taothewanderer and who should we stop trusting?

[@wizdomwalker2500]

If women wants privilege.. they need to earn it..!! Government or society can only offer equality of opportunity, but equality of outcome is entirely different.. you need to earn it..!! as jp said..!! the reason why they cant focus in one field is.. they give up.. after knowing how hard things are.. Thats why they are struggling to make choices!!..

[@reyp5323]

Asking my wife where she wants to go eat for dinner is like asking her to solve a quantum physics equation. I too can attest that women struggle with choice lol

[@Muslim604c]

"No gratitude" That's so true!

[@andmondson8260]

Just when I can’t see this guy hit the nail on the head more accurately...

[@stoichr3324]

Omg! Professor Amitay and Professor Peterson in one video!!! My two favorite psychology professors thank you for posting!!!!

[@alejandrodelabarra2838]

Muy bueno!! Como siempre: No hay con qué darle!!

[@mamamia7686]

This is SO correct. Americans right now, compared to other entities in different spectrums of geography and time, are super super privileged to enjoy the life they have, but they still strive for things such as gender equality that are already resolved decades ago. Don't ever moan to such trivial things if you cannot check yourself and your efficiency regularly (in Peterson's case - telling that you have studied for 6hrs in the library but in fact, only 1 or 2). An example is my country Vietnam, whose citizens' basic income is considered rich if you earn $500/month, which represents the REAL inequity that is rampant around the globe. Americans, especially liberals, your suffers are not breaking news. Others suffer too, usually more than you guys.

[@leetledrummerboy]

As far as I can figure current thinking on the left boils down to the idea that it's government and society's job to solve people's problems. Debate becomes very confused from that point as they'll come at a conservative or a moderate wondering how we possibly can believe the world is just right now. The problem is that we're on a completely different page. It isn't even a goal of non-progressives to manufacture some outcome of fairness. Life isn't fair, never has been and never will be. The closest we can get is to give everyone equal rights under the law and to judge people based on their merit. Peterson has it right that we should all be more grateful, cause I don't think the world owes anyone a damn thing.

[@sandragustafsson3125]

This is one of my favorite clips with professor Peterson!

[@mono8476]

samee

[@TylerDurden-oy2hm]

ive never seen so many mic drop moments in one video....this is super concentrated Peterson brilliance

[@janicebillington2633]

Thank god for this voice of sanity in an otherwise insane world. Bless you Jordan Perterson.

[@D_Boone]

If my future wife wants to work 80 hours a week and make big bucks, I will gladly stay at home and wash dishes, cook the meals and raise the kids. I don't know why anyone would want to give that deal up!

[@jhonnycultura4455]

cause women want to look up on you not down on you... "weak men" are not really atractive to women

[@D_Boone]

@@jhonnycultura4455 Why exactly does not being the bread winner make you a weak man. Is being there for your family, raising them to be powerful men and women "weak". If you want to talk about "weak men", let's talk about the countless children growing up without fathers because they abandoned them. We need to redefine what masculinity means in America. Men need to be good fathers and husbands first, not workaholics or whatever. If you find a woman who isn't attracted to that? Well, than she isn't worth a second thought.

[@rickwood2011]

Señor Romántico sorry you’ve had your brain screwed by this mentality and you’ve had bad experiences with women. but generalizing a whole group of women and saying they act the same makes you look just as bad. someone needs to open your eyes a little.

[@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594]

Hell yeah dude. Bond with my kids, play video games, and get fuckin jacked. Be there for my wife when she needs it

[@rebelraccoon9018]

@@Salomon_G Cooking, cleaning and doing child care is hardly "chilling" at home.

[@michaelterry1000]

Wow, THAT was enjoyable. Thank you again Dr Peterson for telling (reminding) us all what should be common sense.

[@xenomorph4245]

Wow, I could listen to him all day.

[@joedoe783]

Cathy Newman should have watched this before interviewing him.

[@exapplerrelppaxe7952]

Epic indeed. But it's not just a rant on gender equality. It's an incredible summary on the human condition in 13 and a half minutes. Bookmarked.

[@matheusburgareli1732]

Thank you sir, for this video

[@abdulwahab181]

I can just say wow . He expressed what i had in my mind.