Dying on BEACN Hill

[@EposVox]

UPDATE: BEACN have finally released a frequency response graph for the mic and admitted the "proprietary tuning of the capsule" bit was incorrect. This basically confirms just about every direct thing I've had to say about the mic. Full thoughts and conclusion to this crazy saga on the Community post here: kzbin.infoUgkxF-u6nW3u-SgVkBgR3rvGcmz5PaU4PdcT

[@activenode]

This is good for your mental I suppose. But you gotta still chill out. You can't fix other peoples opinions. That's just it. A bit of resiliency wouldn't hurt. But who am I to say this, I probably would have to battle these demons internally as well if I were you.

[@SiGhCoTiC]

I picked up the Beacn mix create in the hopes of having a good mixer similar to the goXLR but with out the cost but its plagued with nothing but software issues. Constant software crashes and device crashes and just POOR software decisions. I Wont ever purchase another device from them.

[@Dunc]

@@SiGhCoTiC I did the same, but after 10 minutes if use it went right back in the box and was returned. My plan was to discontinue using voicemeeter until I realized that VM is better than the mix and create for me.

[@CreateNowSleepLater]

What would you say is the USB mic you recommend?

[@GamerToday]

Almost clicked off video in first 5 seconds do to audio.... clearly they got hype for nothing this was not a new standard....unless our ears changed and I missed it

[@Podcastage]

Ooooof! I'm not a pro radio guy or anything, I'm just a dope who makes a podcast every week, and my approach to EQ has always been: don't do anything until you hear the frequencies you want to cut, then find them and remove them. Next add any slight alterations you want to add flavor. But...if you end up with a massive 5+dB high/low shelves shelves and cuts everywhere, that's indicative that the mic is incorrect for your voice and you should be seeking a different mic. (This of course will be different in full mixes with multiple instruments where everything is competing with bandwidth). The fact that the mics presets are that aggressive doesn't bode well to me. After watching this full video I'll just say that I'm glad I don't use windows and therefore can't review it because it seems like a headache. Cheers for standing up and not just going along with what everyone is saying for sake of remaining comfortable.

[@wagonet]

Big fan!

[@GankerJr]

Mann I was hoping you would review it. :(

[@controversyV4S]

gang gang!

[@adversevariable]

Love your reviews on microphones. I pretty much always check to see if there's a Podcastage review of a mic before buying it so I can compare it to the Podcastage review of the mic I already have. This mic not having a review, plus this video and a few other videos where I've noticed some not-so-great quality, I think I'll stick to my SM7B and WaveXLR. At least the WaveXLR has VST support now, Reaper/ReaEQ 🤘

[@PhatNutz]

i was wondering if you were going to chime in... 👍

[@technical6468]

So full disclosure I'm part of the Beacn testing group and I got my hardware from them a couple months before launch. I'm currently working on my own Beacn Mic review video and I've come to many of the same conclusions about it's out of box sound that Epos has. I don't have an objective or scientific way of generating a frequency response graph of the Beacn Mic since I don't own a measurement mic, tone generator, etc. BUT, to my ears, the Beacn Mic's out of box sound has a certain flavor to it that I've found very hard to work with. It has a presence boost, a highpass, and low-end boost that are all very aggressive. Regardless of the apparent subjectivity or personal nature of this video, I think it's clearly evident throughout that Beacn's mic has a specific sound to it that is hard to work with and requires a lot of processing to really shine. If their objective was to take a dynamic mic modeled after the SM7B and tune it to sound more natural so people wouldn't have to "fix" the mic's naturally "dead" sound signature, they succeeded. The SM7B is a very neutral microphone that NEEDS to be EQed to sound natural to our ears. But it's response to that sort of EQ is why it's so legendary. It's also a step many creators either don't understand or just don't do a good job of it. While I can appreciate their apparent intent, I'd rather they offer a more "direct" mode that gives a less "tuned" sound simply because printing a certain sound signature to a mic isn't going to suit as many people's voices and will make it more challenging to work with. Beacn are targeting professional creators with their products and pricing them accordingly. For $270 you'd expect a microphone to not come with permanent training wheels. Any mic with a ADC/DAC/DSP in it is going to have some sort of correction baked in. Heck, any mic period is going to have tuning done to the capsule via the components connected to it. But I've never come across a mic that had such a "sound" to it applied BEFORE the user gets control of the signal path aside from budget mics that aren't intended for professional use. At the very least, you'd expect a frequency response graph. Ultimately when you pick a mic, you want a mic that sounds either as close as possible to your desired signature OR is just built for the specific job you need it for. Having to do less work in post to "bend the mic to your will" saves time and effort. There's a reason the MKH 416, CAD E100S Lewitt 440 Pure, Neuman U87, SM7B, RODE NT1, Electrovoice RE20, etc are all HIGHLY regarded microphones. They sound PHENOMENAL out of the box and respond incredibly well to post processing. Beacn's Mic being hard to work with for a person of Epos, my, or other industry professionals' level of experience makes it a very hard recommendation for what they're charging. Their audio mixing and routing software is incredible. The Beacn Mix Create is a permanent fixture of my desk. But I also have multiple XLR interfaces on my desk the Mix Create works perfectly fine with (that's the whole point) and as soon as I'm done my Beacn Mic review, it's going back in its box unless they release a tuning update. I know people are going to take Epos's conclusions about the mic as the secondary point of this video. There's not much I could add or subtract from his conclusions outside of the mic. His experience is his experience. But I did want to make it clear that despite my status as a tester of their products, I don't believe they've nailed it with every product and I will continue to suggest improvements for the betterment of those products. I think a big reason Epos is so personally involved in this whole situation is because he, like me, WANTS Beacn to succeed in all their endeavors. We WANT new companies to come out with products that challenge problematic or outdated industry norms, and that's something Beacn has done a great job with to a certain extent. The audio industry is a better thing because Beacn's products exist. But that doesn't make them or their products immune from criticism and I'd never let my affiliation with them in any capacity influence what I say about them.

[@ThisIsTechToday]

I've worked as a professional audio engineer for over a decade and a half for live audiences up to over 20,000 people (not including all the people on the live stream), on multi-million dollar sound systems for signed bands, orchestras, speakers, and more and you always cut before you boost. This is equally true for the studio. A lot of the time, the cutting removes the need to boost. While I like how the software provides all of these guides and explanations, which is honestly SUPER cool, the presets are problematic just by looking at it, and not having a solid mic sound before processing where you only need subtle changes to get the sound you want is extremely problematic.

[@koenignero]

A lot of the ... ?

[@danielfingerberlin]

Radio journalist with 20+ years of experience here. I wondered why the Beacn sounded bad in every review video I have seen… while many people seemed to still recommend it. I just listened to it and was apalled at the sound. You do good, honest reviews. And you are 100% correct on this one.

[@REAPERMania]

Yes. It's a cheap mic. You can't fix that with software.

[@hewster1]

I guess I am just simple, I think it sounds great. Ditched my GoXLR and SM7b for it and couldn't be happier.

[@REAPERMania]

@@hewster1 If you ditched your SM7b for it you're not simple. You're deaf!!! And I HATE the SM7b.

[@hewster1]

@@REAPERMania or I'm not an audio snob. You are clearly biased and hellbent on hating this mic.

[@EntropyConcept]

It's ludicrous. I'd rather an xm8500 and umc22 any day for personal use.

[@AlphablueOfficial]

What I love about this re-review is that you’ve DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE! So many people use one or two points to base their entire opinion on, but you’ve gone far and beyond to unequivocally support your position. Thank you for doing one of the best in-depth reviews of a piece of streaming hardware in existence!

[@WrathOfTheHydra]

I remember watching the first review videos for the whole BEACN ecosystem, and the first two thoughts I had were: 1) dope looking audio control tech and 2) that the mic itself sounds really mediocre. As someone who's been analogue for my entire time streaming and video editing, I tried to put my bias aside as I really want to recommend to a lot of people not to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on an XLR setup they don't need. I was really hoping this would be THE set up to point at and go "see, go grab this and make your life easier." But the more I watch and the more I listened, the more it really seems that they just... build for this sound type? Which is really weird because I have no idea why in the world you would aim your microphone to purposefully sound this way. It's just weird seeing people based in the audio industry not... understanding audio, or at least trying to market around the poor quality the way they are. And the amount of people talking this mic up like it's an SM7B killer when, if you're wearing monitoring headphones, can obviously tell it's not even close. Thank you for being honest with this, because more people need to turn the spotlight on this deceiving marketing. Especially when so many people are looking for exactly the kind of simple form factor this brings, it's a dangerous trap a lot of people can fall into.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

I listened with and without headphones and this doesn't even come to close the Rode podmic let alone the sm7b with its sounds

[@KuJoe]

It's a shame to see a company with so much potential but can't get out of its own way. 😞

[@skorpers]

If it helps, John has absolutely no clue about audio and by extension, it appears most if not every person who ever did, is no longer a part of the company. So they will have their own Artesian Builds debacle and then die off.

[@Chapizard]

Thank you for releasing this. I was starting to doubt my ears so much and it’s a big relief to hear yours and the commentor's thoughts line up with mine. Genuinely felt my confidence return.

[@tombuck]

Thanks for doing this. You’re 100% not wrong. Edit: I should say that seeing the Earthworks in frame while hearing the BEACN is quite the tease 😉

[@REAPERMania]

You're probably never going to see this but I've been a professional recording engineer for 30+ years. That mic sounds terrible. It's not you. It's not the software. It's simply a bad mic. There's no fixing it. I agree that we're moving away from close mics to our face. I just did and I'm using a rode shotgun mic. So much better. But this isn't a fixable mic. It's just cheap crap. Thanks for making this video.

[@hewster1]

It's a niche mic, and it does an amazing mic at filling that niche.

[@thefullsetup]

Yeah it has a niche of being $280 dollars and sounding worse than a $100 pod mic

[@hewster1]

@@thefullsetup cute story.

[@DoSGamingNetwork]

@@hewster1 He's not wrong though...

[@REAPERMania]

@@hewster1 No such thing. A niche mic would be something that sounds great on a certain source. Like a D12 on a Kick Drum or a SM57 on the Snare. This mic is meant for the voice and it sounds terrible for that purpose. It sounds like a $12 mic you can find on Amazon. No software can fix this mic. Sorry.

[@SDGolfGuy]

Couple things I just wanted to weigh in on. Also I've been apart of the testing group. I love their mix/mix create and what it can do. I've held off on switching to the mic for a couple reasons. You captured some of it here in the distance and you describe it as boxiness. I find it sounds "tight" as if you're listening through a pin hole. My suspicion is its related to the noise suppression algorithm (because in my years past when I would fix people's mics its often that same plugin/vst that is killing their sound). Its a good call out for frequency response curve, particularly if you're going to get experts to buy in they need some baseline to start their EQs from. All that being said, I have found EQs that work, they're just slightly different than what I've used for MV7, RE320 or SM58. I can get this mic to sound 95-98% as good as those mics (hooked up to GoXLR). In almost all instances I find that I turn the bass boost off, and noise suppression off. I think this mic will still have viability - particularly with its headphone amp, its post processing capabilities, and its USB interface itself - even if it requires a different EQ/chain than most other mics I've worked with. Great video as always, interesting to hear your takes, all the drama aside.

[@akasnuggie]

I'd love to see a screencap of the curve you've found to work because as someone with a voice tone similar to @EposVox, I am having a lot of difficulty with this mic and I jumped into the deep end with it as my old mic took a shit.

[@MaiKayxo]

I would also love to see a screencap if you could!

[@colton9841]

Ditto, this would help me a lot as someone who is new to EQ.

[@MeticulousTechTV]

Also would love to see!

[@HomeStudioCorner]

Thanks for the shout-out!

[@EposVox]

Thanks for the incredible videos!

[@AkatsukiFlame3]

That's a bummer I was going to look into this mic but not releasing basic (i thought were requirements for professional practice) graphs is alarming. Thank you for the update Epos

[@BlueScreen64]

I've watched plenty of your videos as a new streamer, but this is the one, with the level of raw honesty and fair testing with examples, that gets me to finally sub. This has made up my mind to go with the Deity VO-7U with a BEACN Mix Create instead of the BEACN mic.

[@StevensSounds]

Was watching Harris Heller and some others and thought, "The sound of this mic kind of sucks tbh" so I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this.

[@EposVox]

Harris' videos tend to sound the best with it- but that's because he basically minimizes all the settings. He even noted in his video today that pushing the EQ at all basically destroyed the audio lol He knows not to use their presets. He's smarter than that. Was glad to see that. :)

[@grafxgear]

@@EposVox did you watch his Elgato keylight mini review? There were numerous comments that he sounded terrible.

[@EposVox]

Yeah that’s the one where he tried actually using the EQ lol

[@grafxgear]

@@EposVox Sorry, I meant the "Judging Your Gaming Setups" video... but my return has been approved. I'm keeping the Create mix, despite the constant bata testing. the mic just never.. worked... they would never even try to problem solve on their discord. they just blame usb drivers and motherboard bios updates... otherwise it is always user error. I might check out an audio interface from them but that mic is a disaster.

[@djordyroke61]

i was watchin that video too as im trying to move on from the crappy headphone mic i have with my razer headset on harris hellers video it did not sound as bad but i just like to view more revieuws before buying something with as big of an price point i was already between this the deity co-7u or the wave 3

[@granthinds]

You can't buy integrity but you can buy a mic for review. Thank you for standing by your decision. You're a breath of fresh air

[@tristengrant]

Personally, just from the way they handled user feedback, I wouldn't knowingly buy or support the product.

[@PixelCat]

When I first heard the people who made the GoXLR left to make their own product I was hoping for another audio interface or a mixer with multiple inputs to challenge the RodeCaster or something. I think a USB mic was the wrong direction to compete with the GoXLR. The mix seems cool, but just more of a gimmick in my opinion.

[@mncllama]

I'm in this exact same boat. When all of the beach reviews dropped I immediately lost interest. I already have a PCpanels pro so the mix really did nothing to impress me and even if the software had been amazing for the mic, the mic would have had to be just as amazing. A really cool evolution of the goXLR would have been interesting to see, but these guys are losing my interest and trust atm.

[@OfficialMyMindset]

I think its a good idea to make the usb MIC + mixer software to cut down on desk clutter. They are just failing with their MIC sound and buggy software.

[@blockedpot]

I think they will eventually release a hybrid product combining their control panel thingy and an interface with excellent software.

[@_Par1ah]

They did release a "successor" to the goxlr. It only has one usb-c cable connecting to the pc. No need for 100 cables.

[@bennysaa]

I bought the GoXLR Mini a few weeks ago and then first heard about its team left TC Helion and that they built a new product. I fell in love with it but when I realized there are literally no I/O and not even an XLR input, I was very very disappointed

[@Welshmanshots]

Every time i come back to these videos i always listen to the BEACN and the Fifine mic i bought for my brother last year, the Fifine mic blows it out of the water and is a quarter of the price at like $60 vs $300 and that's without an EQ.

[@scissorkicks]

There's another really good reason to cut first, then boost. If you've got EQ then compression, if you haven't tamed/cleaned up the signal already, the compressor can easily make unwanted aspects louder. For example, if you have low frequency hum or rumble on your mic, which is quieter than the voice, any make-up game applied after the compression will make that unwanted sound louder. Ideal scenario for me is EQ cuts > dynamics processing > EQ boosts (if needed).

[@AJCoReTV]

Sucks that honest feedback can sometimes put a dent in Relationships. But Adam & Bandrews channels are the top 2 that have the knowledge & experience I can rely on as a viewer. I can see this helping Beacn become better along the way regardless of how the drama might feel in the moment. Keep up the great work!

[@jntracksgaming]

Professional recording/mix engineer (my day job, not my streaming/gaming hobby) Just stopping by to say you’re totally right. It was clear from your first review. It’s clear in other -less in depth and critical- reviews. You know this, but just adding my voice. That “too much magic” line is pure snake oil salesman line. Shame on them. We aren’t fooled.

[@DKTD23]

Did Beacn ever bother swapping out the capsule and improving/upgrading it?

[@hiredgunsg6178]

Finally, a reviewer that actually takes a stand to all the bullshit from corporations and all the internet trolls. I've watched some of your videos and i often come here to listen to your advice and it has never lead me in the wrong direction. I definitely will not buy anything from this company.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

The boomy, punchy audio only sounds good on Markiplier tbh

[@nickglover]

I used to sell audio gear and frequency response graphs usually just come in the box. How bizarre to not only not include one, but to suggest that you should only care about the sound after processing. Garbage in, garbage out is the saying. The less I have to do to get it to sound good, the better the mic is. An ideal mic would be one that I don't have to EQ at all, so suggesting that you HAVE to EQ it is really just admitting that it isn't a great mic. Which sucks, it has a lot of cool features, but... Yikes. And yes, as someone who does have formal audio training, cut first, boost later.

[@JarredRidley]

I think you've cemented your reputation as someone who is passionate about quality, and won't be cowed into silence or obedience. That's a good reputation to have in my opinion. For the reps of a company to make fun of you for being critical of one of their products, and basically call you ignorant, is disgraceful. You have given them praise where praise is due, and have shown that you really want them to succeed. Clearly, their arrogance has cost them a valuable relationship with yourself, and likely a few customers. I, for one, am more inclined to listen to the one critic than the 3000 fanboys who have nothing negative to say. I appreciate your take on this. I was already sceptical of the mic after the first few review videos from you and a couple of other creators. The Mixer and Mixer Create do seem to be as good as the hype indicates, however, it is pretty clear that the mic (and the companies PR attitude) needs some work. I'm in the market for another mic, and you have helped me make a decision on the Beacn Mic, so I appreciate that too.

[@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS]

When I heard Epos first video in this mic, I really wanted to tell him it sounded like garbage, but I didn’t because I didn’t know if maybe the product was defective. The second video he made on this, addressing some comments he received, sounded the same. This video sounds the same. There are moments where I guess my ears are too tried to deal with the garbage, and the mic sounds like it has potential, but I have no other way to describe this microphone beyond saying that I genuinely have not heard a worse sounding microphone in my life, ever. The compression alone kills me, let alone wage they’re trying to do to the EQ

[@SteeTheButcher]

Hey Addie, I've been watching your videos for a couple of years now and they have been an extremely massive help to me when I was learning to come to grasps with OBS and video and audio production. I've learned so much from your content and just wanted to say thank you so much for helping me and so many other noobs get off the ground. I find your videos extremely insightful and I always enjoy looking forward to them. I know I'm only a small fish but I know there are many more like me that owe a debt of gratitude to you for all the work you put in. I hope you know that I'm sorry to hear you've been gaslighted by these people and left questioning your own experience and ability. For what it's worth, you have never given me any reason to doubt your integrity or expertise. Thank you for being you, and thank you for not backing down and standing by your morals. If a company is not willing to listen to constructive criticism and pull this kind of crap it's an immediate red flag to me and an easy decision to never buy their products. For me, it's not just the bad product, it's the unprofessionalism put forward by the company and it's representatives. Most importantly, thank you for bringing it to attention and not letting small streamers be ripped off by this. $279 is a lot of money to the majority of content creators starting out and making small investments into their work. Hopefully they will see this and not waste nearly 300 dollars on a turd. I have an Elgato wave 3, I love it for what it is, probably the best bang for buck imo, even if the software is a buggy mess at times, although I think windows' audio engine takes a lot of responsibility for that. Furthermore even if they can be slow at times, one of the things Elgato does amazingly is listen to feedback and implement changes Keep it up dude, look forward to what you put out next

[@StereoSniper]

I watched the other two videos on the mic and it was kind of hard to understand how you seemed to still recommend the mic after some of the stuff you came across and the sound you got out of them. I'm glad to see you set it all straight (in general, not just because you're saying it's not good)

[@devonsmith5113]

Thanks for making this experience & issues with Beacn public. I was recently looking to purchase either the Beacn dynamic usb mic or the Presonus Revelator dynamic usb mic, but this helped me make a more informed decision.

[@scissorkicks]

Well, BEACN lost me at "squeeze the t*ts". Nope.

[@scissorkicks]

PS Joe Gilder ROCKS. I think there's a Revelator announcement today as well.

[@robertpickett5718]

I have listened to and “liked” many mic reviews. Your thorough, fact-based approach is appreciated and prompts me to subscribe. Never give up, never surrender.

[@NovaisaBosss]

THIS HURT MY EARS!! I hate this voiceover sound to. I've been doing audio voice overs and mic stuffs for 7+ years and YOU ARE RIGHT! It's so boxy it hurts. the mic is bad. it fails a lot of the Dynamic fundamentals when it come to compression and EQ. IMO the other plugins are so mid lol. especially how they use them. I just don't like the mentality of "we made it and are always right so do what we say" either. the best part of them is their hardware* and the software idea isa neat but runs like dodo. good video btw :) Edit: My ears at the end are so tired and really do hurt from this lol

[@Keylime]

Being fully honest, I do own the BEACN mic, and I recognize that it isn't the king of dynamic microphones. That being said, the in-mic EQing and instant monitoring is way too good of a feature for me to pass up. Prior to this setup, I had to run Krisp to make the AC in my room not destroy my stream audio and my voice was getting digitized hard. Being able to use both the expander and the noise suppression, I can now comfortably kick it out of my audio AND monitor things instantly without having to hear my mic picking up the AC fans. I fully admit that the mic isn't the best sounding mic on the planet, but the in-mic EQ, noise suppression and expander all processing and pumping out the headphone jack on the back has been a game-changer for me. All of that being said, I do feel like you're taking a lot of this personally and this was a pretty emotional video. I obviously haven't seen all the banter back and forth on Twitter, but for what it's worth, in your prior BEACN commentary and even after this video...even if I think you're going a bit overboard on the negativity due to an emotional response to feeling called out... I still think you're a great content creator and will obviously continue to watch your videos with excitement. Is $269 a fair price for a microphone that has built in EQ, noise suppression, expander, headphone amp, nice mounting features and a really clean look? Well by your own admission the $100 Deity mic sounds as good (or slightly better than) this $269 one. Are all those features worth $169? Maybe to a lot of people, yes. Maybe to someone who is much more familiar with using alternate software to EQ their mic and doesn't mind not doing some extra legwork and wiring to create the same experience...that answer is no. But as an all-in-one package that truly doesn't have a competitor in the space that I've seen, it's really hard to just throw the entire product away as a "shitty mic", when in reality the mic is more than capable. Just maybe not as capable from a pure microphone perspective as other pure microphones. I fully accept that, but the sum is greater than the parts to me. I ditched a Rode Procaster, a GoXLR and my Arctis Pro Wireless headphones (like $1K worth of products) to replace with the BEACN Mic, Mix/Create and Beyerdynamic DT77x Gos, and my experience as the user of these products has been much better than the previous configuration. And I can stream and record content now with my fan running without my voice getting totally shredded. And I think the mic looks dramatically better on camera now from what I was running before. I know this video was 99% about the actual mic hardware and the silly presets (which I actually didn't even notice existed), and defending yourself as a quality reviewer of products...I just think the emotional response isn't the best of looks. It feels like while you almost backhandedly say the software is good, you're essentially damning the entire product because of some Twitter beef, some negative comments from fans, and a desire to be right about something more than to be fair to the entire product offering. Sorry for the long as F response. No matter what, I'm still a big fan.

[@EposVox]

I spent an entire month dissecting this mic and my approach to EQ and mic processing to figure out what I was wrong about. I lost a lot of sleep over this. It's completely derailed my entire production schedule for February, and I was completely treated like shit by both BEACN staff and their fans. It IS personal. This video is half "here's why the mic sucks" and half "here's why the company sucks." A lot of what I referenced were things happening to other people as well, and a lot of it goes back to the GoXLR days where PLENTY of creators have had bad experiences with KT. It's out of the ordinary because this entire experience has been well beyond out of the ordinary for every experience I've had in my career. No, I don't think this microphone is worth $169 more than any mic, especially when the Elgato Wave exists and there's plenty of free VST suites out there (or baller ones if you're spending those savings) anyway. Their software is more mature, more stable, they make calculated decisions and listen to feedback in a rational way (didn't used to, do these days). And you can still control it via the Mix. So yes, I'm damning this product for what it is and what the company is doing. That's how this works. It's cool that you like it and find the features compelling. That was the conclusion of my original review: Mic sucks audio quality-wise, but the software stack is awesome and I look forward to the interface where their crappy mic is removed. That's also my conclusion here, a month later, after many more hours of researching, consulting audio buddies who know more than me, and tinkering with it constantly. Appreciate the comment.

[@Keylime]

@@EposVox Thank you for the reply man, definitely didn't expect one. I totally get it, especially much more so now that I see it also boned up your own planned content just to get the record straight on all this. Here's to hoping all this ends up with better product offerings from them now that there's a strong and respected voice making its faults loud and clear. I'd actually love for a BEACN Mic 2 that's targeted more for high end audio versus Twitch streaming with the same or better features and a better capsule. Thanks again for everything you do for the content creator community, man. And apologies if my comment above added to the noise in your life right now.

[@marcuszettergren8885]

I have deliberatly refused to look at any Beacn stuff until now, when i found out that a certain pod is at the company. First the pod killed the GoXLR brand and now this. Anyone not seeing the red line here?

[@Artimidorus]

Thanks for the review. I kept seeing other very popular channels recommending it, but never had a real breakdown on it until I found your videos. Going to skip the mic, the childish responses alone make me think the company won't be around in 5 or so years.

[@JeremyLeech]

I'm happy I decided to go with the Dynacaster instead of this mic.

[@katarixy]

I bought the BEACN mic and while I am happy with my purchase, I can definitely agree those default EQ profiles are too aggressive... even for a male voice like mine which is not very bass-heavy. The software suite is nice but it's definitely got a long way to go. Thank you for presenting such an eloquent discussion of your experience, which definitely tames my expectations. I'm sorry to see you had to go through such a maddening situation but I appreciate the effort placed behind these videos!

[@ProduceGuitarPop]

i'm honestly astounded at the preset section. I've never seen anything like this, and I've worked in audio for a decade. and the lack of a frequency response chart?!?! You're not crazy, this is ridiculous (also Joe is amazing)

[@seancasgamer]

It's fascinating... Every single review I've seen on this mic, I walked away thinking, "I'm not convinced about the sound." I certainly didn't think it sounded better than the Wave 3 in ANY review where someone did a comparison side-by-side. That said, I get their decision making in many ways. They are going for a part of the market where Elgato plays - creators and streamers who have a bit of money but aren't interested in the technical difficulty of stepping up into the next level of quality and complexity you'd get in the Shure SM7B market. I think realistically, I'm their target audience - I have disposable income to play around with streamer gear as a hobby and I'm not keen to get into the enthusiast technical space with audio.

[@SianaGearz]

@@cmdshftx Oh hello, Buyer's Stockholm Syndrome. No, they did not sound great. That's the problem. You know what's the worst? When people get arrogant about their own audio, when they think it sounds good and it doesn't. Viewers leave. 100%.

[@acornzofficial]

Great video as always. Made me re-think my own EQ and moved on to your "The SECRETS to perfect audio they DON'T teach you..." to refine mine. But I think the sticking point for me on why I won't get anything BEACN is their treatment of you. If this is how they treat someone pubilicly, then imagine what they say behind closed doors.

[@KixPanganiban]

Yes! Thanks for making this video! I've watched a good number of videos about the Beacn mic (and the whole suite of Beacn products) saying that it's the "GoXLR killer!" and also "better than the SM7B!" and owning both, I cringe so hard. First, to your point about the tuning of the mic: it sucks so bad that they did a very subjective tuning to the acoustics and harmonics of the mic. Like many other commenters said, a mic should be tuned as flat as possible to allow the user to make it sound however they want. If they wanted that boomy car stereo tuning, they should have just included it as a preset in the EQ/dynamics settings instead of baking it into the mic's properties. This is why it isn't, and can never be an SM7B. Second, it would have made more sense if all these strip processing capabilities and the DSP itself were available in a piece of hardware other than the mic, with an XLR input. This is why it isn't, and will never be, a GoXLR killer. The GoXLR isn't just a mixer, it's also a pretty good ADC/DAC with a DSP. So, if I already have a decent mic, I won't be able to get into Beacn because it's forcing me to use a crappy mic with no way around it. Also, man, that close-minded echo chamber of a bro culture that folks around Beacn have is just painful. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect in full force and their elitist-ignorant worldview is just such a goddamn shame when it's for a clearly broken product you're just trying to make better with honesty and objectivity.

[@The8BitDuke]

I haven't EQed anything THAT high on any frequency since I was restoring degraded magnetic tape to get something clear out of it. Good lord.

[@skorpers]

John absolutely doesn't know what he's talking about. He tried to argue with me about basic physical characteristics of microphone on his videos about the SM7B / RE20

[@savethefails]

and this is the problem with so many channels semi cookie cutter'ing day one reviews of "hot new products". None of them have enough experience to really offer a thorough review because they just haven't had the solid use to experience it. I'm happy to see you come back and say, "you know what? NO...." Thank you

[@cyphre]

Man, I don't really know what back and forth you had with the company, and not to play Devil's Advocate, but this sounds as good if not better than your usual audio quality. Maybe you think otherwise, and maybe its my various pairs of high end cans, but if your other videos are 'good mic quality' then maybe you're losing quality in compression after the fact anyway? Distance from the mic is also kind of a given for Dynamic mics. Especially USB powered.

[@TheT8or]

I decided to go with the SM7B and this video helped ease any doubts I had with going with it. I love my mix create, but glad I didn’t get the mic.

[@MichaelVash7886]

When I'm looking for reviews on products you're one of my goto sources. And you for sure know a lot more about audio than I do. I, like others, didn't really find the mic all that impressive sounding in the other reviews. Keep up the good work Epos. This type of situation is the kinda stuff that really sucks when it comes to review products. Edit: I am looking at shotgun mics as a possible option for streaming, will be checking out your reviews there as well.

[@SianaGearz]

Shotgun mics should not be used indoors, or at least not within relatively tight spaces. One problem is a strong rear lobe, so you need to point the back of it at a powerful diffuser or noise trap, otherwise you'll likely be catching the longest reflection chain there. The second problem is that cancellation lobes are only valid for infinitely distant sources, the way the geometry works out, what you get instead is a weird comb filtered room sound, which some listeners will find disturbing. They are outdoor mics, where neither of these problems occurs. Why were you thinking of getting a shotty?

[@MichaelVash7886]

@@SianaGearz to allow a bit more flexibility of mic placement while streaming. There are a few eposvox videos talking about it or reviewing them.

[@SamSB250]

So I been wanting to get a mic just because I want one. All the hype from beacn I waited. When I watch Harris review I kinda felt like “ why is he so excited for this mic?” Then I watched his video this morning and it gave me a “ what’s going on here “ feeling. I’m glad I watched this video because it help me realize all the problems I was feeling but didn’t know what it was exactly.

[@DarkSwordsman]

I knew it. Something felt off, and it was reminiscent of the restrictions that the GoXLR has (even if those were mostly hardware limitations). Such a shame.

[@GuyManley]

This product took too long to come out and I filled all my needs with actual professional equipment. So pretty glad I'm not just starting out and getting bad gear from the jump.

[@SP2RAW]

Thanks for everything you do Epos I swear this guy is so under rated keep up the good work

[@rockerbox2112]

Audio Engineering student here. Subtractive EQ is ALWAYS what you do first. I was baffled when I saw that broadcast preset

[@drunkev]

Dude thank you so much. I suck at EQing and I just followed what I heard people recommending and what everyone seemed to like. I generally suck at audio quality/EQ (maybe my ears suck), I just route things well and make it work. I didn't think this mic sounded anything special either but figured I just couldn't tell the difference. One of the videos you've shown of a guy targetting specific frequency ranges and reducing them is my latest improvement on EQ that I've done and I no longer overboost or mess with the mic too much. A microphone is supposed to be good out of the box and the EQ is there to remove the bad stuff that makes things sound worse, just like you said, and not to magicly distort your voice into something completely fake/different.

[@thefullsetup]

So glad you’ve come out and said this I’ve been sent both the mic and mix create not in time for launch date. I didn’t think I’d like the mix create but love it the mic I just do not like the sound of. I stand by with headphones, speakers and mics if you don’t like the out of the box sound then it’s not for you. Processing/eq should be subtle yes it’s needed but if you don’t have anything you like before you won’t like it after. As far as I’m concerned it needs to sound like a $280 dollar dynamic mic the processing and routing although great is only an extra and a usp but it doesn’t come close to sounding like it’s cost, as soon as I go back to my re320 and dynacaster I just don’t even want to use the beacn. May I ask what do you think of the real time monitoring I feel there’s some funky mess almost like when you monitor yourself through a daw at 32 or 64 samples your voice is in time but there’s this metallic/robotic sound to my voice. Almost like dsp is adding a very slight latency compared to my io24 which sounds great with monitoring with the dsp turned on.

[@warrengibbins]

honestly, listening to this video caused my ears to fatigue after about 15 min. I already have tinnitus and a sensitivity to highs in audio. this mic just makes them worse as i listen longer.

[@krzysztofmaska2215]

I'm not an audio pro by any means - just an enthusiast on cheap/budget gear loving to experiment with processing. And to be honest, my high pass filter on my pretty high voice is at 85Hz, with the biggest cut being -3 dB at 1kHz due to high nasality. Boosts? Max 2.5dB at 130Hz, applied after initial compression, to get more warmth. All of that on Mackie EM-89D which you can get for like 1/3rd of the beacn? Add some Arturia Minifuse or something similar and you can have a great sounding, maybe not so broadcasty looking, setup for half of price. If you want to go cheaper and have more bass, you can swap that EM-89D for XM8500, and you're golden. For processing - you can use something like Equalizer APO or another VST host with bunch of really high quality free VST plugins like Melda suite or TDR and Analog Obsession stuff. Even for these exciter/bass booster things - PreBOX from Analog Obsession gives cool results. If you are gentle with it, not going 100% on the knob, obviously. I really think this beacn mic is just bad, even terrible. And the software with all the awesomeness regarding zones etc. don't justify the price when you have so much free great sounding things on the Internet. All that is just my opinion, and I am perfectly fine with people disagreeing with me on this field. After all of this huge text I did here, I must admit - your OG Beacn Mic videos were disliked by me, but that one is great and I'm happy to see you as a creator I follow for a long time coming back and admitting all these things and properly assessing this mic. Great job, Adam!

[@jessemiller2277]

Thank you for this review, I actually ordered the Beacn mic because I haven't seen anything negative spoken about the Mic but haven't seen any reviews that didn't look sponsored. This video has cancelled my order.

[@allanwarsing]

Can someone please break the emergency Julian Krause glass box and unleash him on this one?! Oh, and kudos for standing up. I am sure it took a lot of strength to do this video. Bravo.

[@To1ne]

Exactly my thought.

[@worldofjoseup]

This shows that companies such as Electro Voice should make USB versions of their microphones, and maybe add software for EQ. Maybe if they want something like the BEACN Software or Wave Link they can do that, but there needs to be some EQ software for everyone, and more USB mics by audio companies like EV and Rode. I would love to see a new Rode Podmic USB or an Electro Voice RE20 USB.

[@dcbueller]

I really REALLY wish I had better ear sensitivity. I stream and watch several streamers at the same time (mostly D&D and retro PC beepy boops), and everything sounds fine. Even watching and listening to this, I barely could tell a difference when you changed the settings. I know it's just a me thing, because so many other folks in the comments are identifying the differences. I just worry that I'm driving folks away from my streams because of audio issues I can't notice. I have followed several KZbin tutorials in setting gain, limiter, release, etc, but everything always sounds the same to me :(

[@Tolakram]

I still have issues with my GoXLR mini. It says unmuted but muted in OBS, compressor distorts sound, just a bad device. Listening on a quality audio system I could hear the crunch in every review. Really fatiguing.

[@4mp3d]

I got caught in the hype and purchased, can I salvage or should I return?

[@wagonet]

I'm a huge fan of your channel. Love that you stuck to your guns. You rock. Pls keep doing what you are doing

[@TheChartreuseLeprechaun]

I do a 6db reduction on the mic and the compressor that is in OBS, but I only process the sound itself in post using Davinci Resolve. And, I tend to have too much low end out of habit from stage work. But, I demand the ability to adjust the sound to where I want it to be. I really wanted the BEACN. But, not if it's like this. Thanks for your honesty on this one, Epos. Side note: One of the things I LOVE about the Elgato Wave is I can have the mic "well away" from my face, and still get good sound that can be adjusted. The thing I don't like about it...it's a condenser mic.

[@oglordblight]

This is why I watch your reviews and trust you. Honesty. Sorry you had to go through this with them but we appreciate you.

[@CitizenGrimm]

Interesting video. Was just about to pull the trigger on the Beacn kit to replace my Arctis Nova 7 mic for my own fledgling channel. Nobody wants to spend $600 CDN for a kit may have not insignificant flaws in the hardware itself. I guess I'll have to see what options exist out there for someone like me at the price point I'm looking at.

[@zajlord2930]

knew it! i could never recognize if mic sounds good or bad whenever audio ppl were comparing mics but this time i heard something doesnt sound right, and that's something

[@RetroBreak]

I saw your tweets the other day and I’m glad you decided to make this video to stand up to them in a good, well thought out video. Don’t know why people are trying to defend them

[@deadwing0]

As much as I liked seeing the software in all of the Beacn Mic reviews, something never sounded right to me but I couldn't quite put my finger on it until now. Great video.

[@SuperDerek]

Wow. Thanks for laying all this out EposVox. You and Booth Junkie are my source for mic reviews and are what I consider to be authoritative sources. The mic's bad EQ could be forgiven if they could take steps to mitigate or learn from it, but their _behavior_ comes off as very unsavory and will likely contribute far more to my future purchasing decisions.

[@oglordblight]

One more thing. I’m a total noob in the audio space and when you did the comparison I could hear the difference clearly and I learned something new about EQ that I’ll try.

[@Arod40]

I bought the mic and the mix and the mix always disconnects. Just turns off and at one point there was 20 plus beacn exc running at one time. I’m going to save up and buy a different mic at this point.

[@OdiumTV]

i can only describe the sound as that this mic does to voices what a crackle tune does to stock compact cars

[@AvalancheReviews]

I have an incredibly bass heavy set up with my speakers, and call me crazy, but the low broadcast voice setting sounded pretty ok. It does seem to have that inherent undetailed, boxy sound for sure, but that eq setting seems to at least address it.

[@cybertronmessiah]

As an audio producer, the constant hits on the highs, like every "s" you hit, constantly reminds me of pre-2010's mixing where they blow out the gain to make the record as loud as possible. If that's the quality of the product they're releasing, I don't feel bad not getting the mic.

[@chonchi]

Before this, I was going to return my wave xlr and MV7x for the beacn mic. Its basically the same price, so its a toss up. I understand the mic isn't great without all the eq, but compared to an MV7 which should I get? I know the wavexlr and mic would be easier to upgrade from, but do you think it'll sound better than an MV7? On the market for a mixer and mic already its hard to choose even with this info. Any suggestions? Also its impossible to find MV7 comparisons because the only on on youtube (epos' vid) he had the mv7 far and it sounded HORRIBLE

[@michaelreed649]

I almost shut off the video from the horrible sound in the first 7 seconds. It proves the point made in the video.

[@WereCatf]

Hmph. Watching videos like this just make me realize I have potatoes for ears: I can't tell the difference at all most of the time, when EposVox is messing around with the settings and it all sounds ok to me. I assume that he'd end up choking me to death with his bare hands in a fit of rage in no time, if he had to try and teach me all this audio-stuff. I.....feel oddly disappointed in myself now.

[@EposVox]

Choose a mic that sounds great to you. If none of them sound different, honestly pick whichever fits your workflow best and don't worry about it

[@SianaGearz]

Epos keeps saying this but "sounds great to you" is one of the recipes to come up with a choice that sounds dreadful to everyone else! Because you don't hear your voice the way you hear other sounds, this colours your perception. It mostly comes via bone conduction. So have a trusted person with you to choose a microphone. Choose a microphone that sounds good to THEM rather than to you. They're your audience standin.

[@ravenoftheredsky]

Epos is basically the Hardware Unboxed for stream gear. Not cutting corners or laying down for anybody.

[@markjones05]

Were you recording this entire video through the Beacn mic? Cause it sounded great.

[@BrettDeister]

I can see where you are coming from. You are correct as a PR person myself that should never happen, but, we are human and passions can get in the way of looking at constructive criticism. Second I am a podcaster I don't mind being close to the mic, but, I don't follow all trends. I do appreciate the re-review and giving your passionate opinion and helping people navigate what mic to buy. The Beacn team should know better and not try to invalidate your opinion because you don't love it. Working not in my studio the mic is actually the best at cut out noise so I don't have to work as hard trying to eliminate it post. I think the 32 bit float is the only thing really going for it besides the software which other companies should look at as well. Either way, thanks for sharing!

[@Outdoor_Andy]

Imagine trying to say the frequency response doesn't matter.....that's like someone buying a multi thousand dollar camera and shooting in jpeg and being pissed that you can't edit the photos enough.......THE RAW DATA MATTERS

[@ClearAdventure]

Gonna stick with my SM7B.

[@Slufooted]

Every review of the Beacn mic I've watched where the reviewer is raving about this mic, I sit and wonder why. Logis yeti sounds better out of the box than this. Having said that, I thoroughly enjoy all your reviews as they are honest and very educational and ultimately helped make my decision to invest in an SM7B.

[@SianaGearz]

Why 7B in particular? It sounds like an SM58 with 8 socks pulled over it. It always sounds a bit like your nose is plugged. It's a relatively inoffensive sound, compared to... this, but i don't get the obsession with it.

[@Slufooted]

@@SianaGearz Not really an obsession or anything but I have a bit of a “raspy” voice so only from what I have read or watched, the SM7B was a good choice for me. Im very happy with it. Im definitely no audio expert by any means but there has to be a reason why the SM7B is so widely used in podcasts and by streamers alike. All boils down to personal preference anyway I suppose.

[@SianaGearz]

@@Slufooted Nah nah not YOUR personal obsession, i had no intention to imply that you're anyhow obsessed. I mean the world seems obsessed with it and it's just... to me it seems like one that doesn't really suit anyone's voice in particular, just keeps everyone borderline tolerable on AM radio.

[@grafxgear]

I'm glad I'm not alone... this mic does NOT work well with my voice and I'm going to start the return process. I also feel like I am a beta tester because the software for both the mic and the mix create are buggy beyond belief. They keep shifting blame to motherboard bios or usb incompatibility... its just bad software. it crashes all the time. it hangs very time I shut down.

[@PacFu]

I believe, since they market this mic to streamers and creators, they have made the mic to match the SM7b in it's highly compressed broadcast sound. If you listen to the Sure in a treated studio (which is what it was meant for), it is leaps and bounds above the beacn. I believe they matched the mic to sound good through software and OBS, while the SM7b is dumbed down naturally from broadcast compression for streaming. I hate this comparison everyone is doing. The software suite seems to be the main draw. I would even think about buying the software standalone if they offered it.

[@EposVox]

Targeting the worst representation of a stellar mic is a poor decision

[@DieTabbi]

Oh and I thought change form my Rode Podmic to the BEACN. I search an interrface where IO have similar EQ or these "waves" that I can see my voice.

[@TheHorrorGeek]

I'm not an audiophile or an engineer. I'm pretty non-discerning about audio on streams and KZbin (I don't mind the boomy NPR/podcaster sound and about the only things I actively notice are clipping and peaking...I'm an audio luddite. :p). That being said, I find this stuff interesting. The Beacn mic samples I've heard (and I watched most of the review videos) haven't been flat out awful, but it's pretty wild how different it sounds depending on who's using it. I've seen it sound terrible. I've watched Harris basically eat it and get it to sound okay (again, to my untrained ears). I've never really heard it sound great. I think their marketing was brilliant. They went after the streamer crowd (who are also by and large not particularly discerning about audio quality as an evening spent on Twitch proves) and made a mic that looks like an SM7B only with RGB for people who wanted an SM7B without having to drop $600 or more on the mic/interface and potentially a cloudlifter. I suspect that by nailing the aesthetic the audio quality basically became secondary for most of their customers. And now you get that purchase bias where people who dropped $280 need to defend their choice to the death. That's already bad enough in the gaming and streaming space... :p I'm glad you came out and shared all of this. I have no horse in this race, but I think it's great to get a counter opinion and this was well articulated and the samples definitely back up what you're saying.

[@RealRSmokinJoe]

For me, an amateur streamer with damaged hearing from years of being a car audio installer, I'm torn. In the various reviews I feel this mic sounds 100 times better than my Blue Yeti, and with my observations the software is more advanced and has more options than the Elgato Wave. I watched Harris Hellers recent review and was extremely impressed, and was still impressed after seeing your first review. I'm so confused now lol HELP!

[@EposVox]

Choose a mic that sounds great to you.

[@SianaGearz]

I actually have opposite opinion to Epos. Don't choose a mic that sounds great to you. The way you normally hear your own voice is via bone conduction, and this is how you're conditioned to believe your voice should sound like, to be content with. This is not how others hear you. So when you choose a mic, you'll tend to choose one that is probably too boomy. Have a trusted person listen to you via different microphones and decide for you instead. I've also noticed people have particular gripes when the resonant peaks of their particular headphones coincide with a maybe somewhat diffraction laden range on the microphone, which is maybe... a little unfair towards that mic?

[@FCTHETRUTH]

Most streamers and podcasters are rocking the Shure SM7B. BEACN Mic is a little pricey for a USB mic but if it sounded BETTER than the SM7B i think ppl would transition over to it. I just don't see target audience like the cheap streamers are gonna run away from the price tag hanging under the BEACN MIC and The Pro Streamers and Podcasters that have the money for it...will just opt for a Shure SM7B if they don't already have one. even a Podmic Running through a RodeCaster Pro..seems like a better option. i don't know i could be wrong.

[@EposVox]

"Most X have the SM7b" is a completely skewed and inaccurate statistic. It's a popular mic, but "most" is not accurate. I don't see any reason ANYONE who already paid for a $400 mic and probably equal amounts in secondary audio gear and got their settings right would rip all of that out to swap to another mic, even if it sounded the same. That doesn't make sense, that's not a rational decision. You want to get something set up that sounds great and stop touching it so you can focus on your stream. But yes, I agree with the rest of what you say!!

[@FCTHETRUTH]

@@EposVox yes i agree with you...i meant more situational. for example.. alot of audiophiles and just audio gear reviewers they'll do videos showcasing all these cool microphones but when its time for them to work on a Project, Stream, Long Form Video that is for themselves..they pull out the tried and true Shure SM7B or The Electro Voice RE20. Heck... Take Camera Reviewers..they'll tell you to Buy a Cheap Canon Camera while filming themselves on SONY A7s IV !!! nothing is wrong with that..i'm just saying viewers notice... i know people that bought the shure SM7B just cause Joe Rogan uses it. My main point is ppl want to know what the Professionals USE and WHY they USE THEM. Best Cheap USB Mic in my opinion is the HyperX Quadcast... but why would someone leap from Quadcast to BEACN. Why Not Shure MV7 with USB AND XLR.

[@EposVox]

HyperX Quadcast is stellar!! And yes, people obsess over WHAT people use and never actually learn WHY - which means they don't know how to use it or why the choice was made. Then a company coming along to copy some of the worst implementations of that mic to appeal to those people is just either being dumb or treating customers as dumb.

[@NaudVanDalen]

@@EposVox Is the HyperX Quadcast or the Elgato Wave 1/3 (only difference are buttons) better? I thought that the Beacn microphone would be better than those microphones, but apparently it's terrible even though it didn't sound bad in the review on Alpha Gaming in the comparison. The Razer Siren V.2 Pro stood out as the bad sounding one in that comparison. How would you rate these microphones in sound quality alone without the price influencing it? And also the Shure SM7b. Is the Beacn worse than the Blue Yeti? Worse than the Blue Snowball? Worse than an iPhone microphone? I've watched someone record their voice on an iPhone microphone and it sounded better than the Razer. Or maybe that's because the Razer got compared to professional microphones and the iPhone microphone wasn't.

[@DerdOn0ner]

Ever since watching Kickedtripod’s GoXLR setup video, I knew this guy was a complete hack

[@HonestAuntyElle]

Probably blew their burndown chart and had to budget the capsule last minute. And figured they could gaslight it long enough to release a beacn mic 2. They should have just released the beacn mix alone first in that case.

[@SianaGearz]

I don't know how you find a capsule that bad, if it is indeed the capsule's fault at all? which i doubt. Like a lot of $12 store brand microphones, and random $6 capsules from Ali (without bulk discount) don't have nearly as much colouration unless you're trying to go at them extremely loud.

[@Ketobbey]

Thanks for the honesty. Keep being honest

[@toastbrot97]

My goodness, a 6 dB boost at 50Hz?! I have a high pass for 50Hz on my effects chain AT ALL TIMES 'cause it tends to get way too rumbly down there even with my bright voice and it makes handling noise or accidental bumps super infuriating. Also, boosting too much with eq's especially before making fine adjustments, is like slapping a final color grade onto your image before doing retouching. Like what?

[@Kevfactor]

I love the goxlrr mini here. it has a lot of uses outside of streaming, such as mixng 2 pcs or watching tv and a computer on the same speakers. this new usb stuff is so limited to streaming and for the money you can just get a set up that does more things.

[@EposVox]

GoXLR Mini is such an incredible value

[@thatsdanzatastic]

I was looking into getting this microphone I have no idea what the hell is going on I just looked up a review came across this and I'm more confused than when I started is this not a good product?

[@BamaRick]

Thanks for the in depth video regarding this! As someone currently using a Rode Podmic for streams or recordings, I was thinking of an upgrade and I’m glad that this wasn’t it (even as good as it looks). What would you recommend looking for outside of the industry standard?

[@EposVox]

Rode’s Procaster is highly underrated tho I’m not sure how worth it it would be to upgrade to it. You’re already at that point where you’d have to take a significant jump to really upgrade. RE320, AT BP40, or the Procaster would be next steps IMO if you’re wanting to avoid the typical RE20 and SM7B

[@BamaRick]

@@EposVox thanks for the input! I even considered the Deity but figured sticking with xlr and my mixer would be better suited.

[@mrdot1126]

all the company versus youtuber issues aside... we all know this mic will be used for Twich or youtube.. for podcasts and gaming streaming... so, aside from a really bad mic's i mean like on $40 gaming headsets... aren't all mic's from decent brands, for $70+ already overkill? yes, for singing, this is clearly not ideal.. but for speaking? i mean it will be compressed by either KZbin ot Twich anyway...

[@EposVox]

Twitch doesn’t compress your audio and data compression doesn’t affect the impact of mic characteristics Bad lighting I still obvious in a compressed jpeg