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Paul about Eric Carr
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[@kevztunz]

Even when Paul is criticizing Eric, Eric still comes off as the good guy.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

Honestly, when my boss sees me naked in the newspaper he would fire and badmouth me.

[@strnglhld]

@@HappyMachorino-bd8noDepending on what you look like that could be great for business.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

@@strnglhld What ever kind of business you mean: we know that for Paul/Gene KISS is "sacred". And Eric said about himself: "What an idiot!". I read "between the lines" that Paul despised him because of this.

[@WilliamCurry-bh3dk]

yes he was fantasic

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

@@WilliamCurry-bh3dk I know. Paul wrote about Eric:"pleasant character". and "Eric was loveable". Chapter 36, Original book Face The Music. I tried to explain It was Eric HIMSELF "he closed his eyes and whispered 'What an idiot". Of course, they all thought, but it was Eric who said these words about his stupidity! Some people think, it was Paul.

[@hotwired100]

Paul Stanley had no idea how bad he looks by writing so many nasty things about a deceased bandmate. We know who the real schmuck is.

[@lenadiene2065]

So true!

[@jonesy2111]

Maybe the opposite is true because he is being completely honest

[@ervinrobinson6711]

@@jonesy2111 Is he [Paul) being totally honest? I already liked Eric Carr. I like him even more after Paul ran his mouth. Paul thinks he's above people. Eric liked regular everyday people. Looks like Paul should have learned something from Eric.

[@denisebrashears1552]

It's not just Eric Carr, he tends to throw everyone under the bus. What a dick! I'm sorry but truth be told.

[@FuckThatYo]

This excerpt is dishonestly edited, and framed in a way to make Paul seem as terrible as possible. Read the book, or listen to the real chapter where he talks about Eric. You will see the real asshole here, is the creator of this trash video.

[@henrikharbin5521]

My ex and I met Eric backstage in the late 80s. We talked for about 30 minutes. He was a sweet guy and never treated us anything else but kindly. I don't know where Paul's bitterness comes from these days, but Eric didn't deserve it.

[@NickCADA]

From what I’ve heard about Eric is the man was always there for his fans.

[@EKNYR]

@@NickCADA and a kick ass drummer and singer. Amazing how nobody hates him because he had his own face paint that reminded you 'cat-related, i'm the drummer" but without the green or anything else. No one thought it was Peter. My mother didn't know that Ace wasn't on their "end of the road" tour until yesterday because of Gene and Paul's insistence on making a talented musician (Tommy Thayer) make an ass of himself by imitating a guitarist who is actually technically superior to.

[@jameshughes6049]

@@EKNYR Tommy can't hold Ace's jock!!

[@68corvette08]

The only praise Paul gives is to Gene and himself.

[@jameshughes6049]

@SpaceAce100 Oh c'mon!! That's a ridiculous statement that Tommy is a better player, singer & songwriter than Ace. Tommy is as generic as they come. He's in KISS cause he kisses Paul & Gene's asses & he's their lackey. Wanna compare songs Tommy wrote & played on to Ace's songs??

[@sidewalkssteamin]

I met Eric once. He was one of the nicest kindest and considerate Rock star I’ve ever met. I have met a few. Eric was an inspiration to me and so many others. He did great for kiss.

[@adailyllama4786]

I was a teenager and had got backstage passes to see Kiss. Paul, Gene, and Vinnie had little to no time for us, beyond a quick picture. Eric Carr, was simply the best. He chatted with the small group of us for several minutes. We got several other pictures, each of us individually with him. He thanked us, before heading off.

[@sledgangspersonalyoutuber6869]

Eric deserves better than this.

[@tedstryker7965]

No kidding. Paul has no class.

[@pinman7618]

Paul sucks

[@zackyallen2713]

he was the best drummer kiss had

[@SkandikFilm]

@@pinman7618 Paul is a bully.

[@chetmartin8930]

Fuck Paul Stanley!

[@bigtorrisi]

Sometimes, usually actually, it's really hard being a Kiss fan.

[@pts5217]

The Great Awaking 5150 He does paint an unflattering picture of Eric in the book which feels tacky. A bunch of what he said just didnt add up. I love Paul, but his fragile ego and nasty side becomes evident in this book. Throughout it he intensely scrutinizes everyone in his life (except for his current wife and kids) while consistently telling a version of events where he was apparently always smart, reasonable, and innocent. Paul cant stand to ever look bad whatsoever and becomes vicious over any minor or perceived slight...Probably stemming from his childhood trauma over his ear deformity and cold parents.

[@zackjay71]

You got to listen to the rest. Where Paul says he realized that he did take the thing that Eric loved away from him. He regrets not letting him play.

[@cipiripi6644]

@@pts5217 cant stand the guy these last 5 yrs

[@celine_ch2567]

Jeez thats so true

[@cipiripi6644]

@@pts5217 that was...just perfect!

[@buddyontheweb]

I've spoken with Eric myself. He was a lovely man. I believe my own senses more than I trust the claims of strangers.

[@maxxard7992]

I usually have respect for Paul, but he is WRONG in this video.

[@jeffreykoger3978]

I too met Eric, and he was a prince of a guy. So humble and down to earth. In contrast, when I met Paul, he was a total ass. RIP Eric.

[@josteinv.jordet257]

You're lucky!

[@3lazyg]

I dated Eric some. You are not wrong.

[@bosanceros1377]

What was he like ?

[@thesentinel5523]

Erik Carr is the real reason KISS survived in the early 80s.

[@frankieflannelette557]

Uuhhh…no he’s not. As much as I love Eric Carr too, that statement is just false

[@milesmayhem5440]

He’s a reason but not the reason.

[@clinteastwood6875]

Vinnie Vincent!

[@robertisham5279]

@@clinteastwood6875 Yeah he's the reason as well.

[@chrismacnight8100]

Absolutely

[@glakhmed]

Paul's problem with Eric is similar to his problem with Ace. Paul is jealous that Ace, Eric (and Peter) are far more loved by the fans than he is. Paul's memoir is so sad. He was trying to tear these people down and he unfortunately did nothing more than portray himself as a hurt child.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

And this is so honest about his book.He wants to be loved, but not as Starchild! And he shows us the person who he really is. His book is extremely authentical.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

@glakhmed In addition: I mean really Paul's ORIGINAL book. Not this fake-presentation here.

[@kevinchandler179]

Paul is such a delusional narcissistic scumbag!!! He still and always has been jealous of Peter and Ace, fact!!! I love that Peter and Ace don't take the bait though, and take the high road always!!! They were the real heart and soul of the original lineup, and don't talk shit or hold resentment, fact!!! Pathetic

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

But Paul from the begining has been "jealous" that Gene's mom loved Gene. And Paul's mom was dominant and emotionally cold. Nevertheless he worked very successfully with Gene. That's why I don't believe this motivation "jealousy". Paul is too professional to put his feelings above his "baby" KISS. Never.

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@@HappyMachorino-bd8noWhy is he claiming he created the KISS logo now?

[@michaelhembree4167]

Paul had no right putting down Eric Carr...

[@orlandoramos1878]

I got to agree with you even more and there's still a lot of bad blood between are cars family and Paul Stanley you know that I feel like they they they should let this man continue want but guess what you got his family saying other say otherwise that they fired him because of that you know I think they're just some power-hungry money hungry thirsty dogs oh I don't got no respect for people like that who treat people like just like they just like Paul them up and do more comfortable with a shoulder like he was garbage their time will come and they going to have one night time comes they won't have to look God Almighty in their eyes and why you discard this man like this you know he was really sick

[@llamafrhd]

It’s fake you can hear the cuts

[@Ha-gd5ki]

@@llamafrhd what?

[@banana-lu5rf]

@@Ha-gd5ki it is, if you listen to the actual audio book it says that eric would call himself a schmuck, not paul. this video is clearly edited and you can here the cuts

[@Ha-gd5ki]

@@banana-lu5rf just finished it, book was ok but I see what you mean. Kinda weird.

[@angelcrusher420]

Funny how Paul sees everyone as a schmuck and sees himself as golden, what’s that called again?? Narcissism....

[@vesalius9949]

I like Paul's honesty, I like that Eric (rest peacefully) was uncomfortable with millionaires and preferred the streets.--its like you can stay at the mansion but, if you can, why not just chill downtown living on the third floor, sharing restrooms, and hanging out in the lobby with a regular crowed who are just getting by, listening, watching...it's the stuff of great music; plus Eric Carr was loaded.--this is stuff I never heard before...I wanna buy all the album's he jamed on now, I like graffitied alley's and prefer the company of people who lick to campout, rather than people who think like they can, just, fit-in by changing hats, I guess we're wearing hats now...or face-paint, really.lol

[@ervinrobinson6711]

@Dirtypussy Tornadokick And that makes it alright to talk shit about Eric Carr? Paul Stanley is a dick !!!

[@kevinchadler469]

I don't think Paul has ever met anyone who he couldn't critique? Lol Disgusting, team Peter!!!

[@llamafrhd]

It’s fake the book says that Eric wanted to call himself that not that Paul was saying that to eric

[@GolfDad]

I was thinking that same thing about Gene

[@grousedog88]

Ungrateful ? He was devoted to the band, even when dying.He was Kiss.

[@Insensitiveisok]

I love Paul Stanley but….dude…come on

[@markmullins132]

Paul and his Wife have alot in common, they are both in love with Paul

[@stanharjak1491]

Maybe in some ways, they're in Love with themselves

[@michellelance6673]

AMEN ON THAT ! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@MattSmithMe]

Perfect!!!

[@GooglSucksDisk]

Are you SURE any woman married to a wealthy multimillionaire much older than her is "in love" with the man? Or, perhaps in love with the lifestyle? I mean, maybe this is why wealthy men full of hate grow to hate themselves so much.

[@ronthompson95]

His wife isn’t in love with him. Lol

[@kagemaru259]

Eric Carr and Bruce Kulick are the two members of Kiss that were always considered by many to be the friendliest, most laid back and down to Earth members who no one had anything negative to say about. Well, anyone except for Paul.

[@synthonaplinth5980]

RIP Eric. Paul and Gene didn't deserve you.

[@charltonmcmillen7422]

they should have though. Its weird that a band like KISS didn't want input from the band member's, instead they looked outside for talent and a good song. Little Caesar was the only highlight on hot in the shade, god awful record. If not for Vinnie's help on Creatures and Lick it up, KISS would've sank. I love KISS, been a fan since '85 but, damn they make it hard.

[@maldicientin]

@ MAZE MATTHEWS The odd thing is that Kiss recorded lots of songs written mainly by replacement members such as V. Vincent, B. Kulick and T. Thayer. Wonder why they wouldn't accept Eric's songs.

[@billtrepkowski527]

I remember Eric saying in an interview before a lot of it was his fault, because his songs weren't finished. If he had really applied himself and presented a complete demo to them, then he might have a chance of getting a song on an album. His words, not mine.

[@bemoviedirector]

they don't deserve their old school fans from the 70s

[@lorimitchell502]

what a bunch of 12 year olds

[@AzRoadRunner78]

Eric Carr had the most dignity and respect for KISS than any other member to ever join the band (except Bruce Kulick, who also shares that same dignity). To say that Eric Carr was a drunk or to paint him as a pretentious or ungrateful person is horse shit. He lacked the demons that Peter had and also had twice the talent. RIP Eric Carr!

[@ernieflanaganstingraybassm1463]

Paul you like putting down the guitar players and drummers dear god he was sick with Cancer...Paul your such a Prick..

[@joshwiggins4207]

That's right he was battling cancer and still wanted to play even though he knew he was dying

[@gillan5]

Did you know Eric or did Paul Stanley knew him- answer to yourself and you know you must be talking bullshit.

[@AzRoadRunner78]

@@gillan5 What’s your point?

[@gillan5]

@@AzRoadRunner78 guess you no it by yourself?!

[@MrJoeythebabykangaro]

My drummer cousin and I met Kiss backstage in 1990 on a contest win. At this point, Eric had just had his drum solo reinstated into the setlist. If you remember, it had been cut out and Eric retaliated by growing a light beard and wearing pajama pants onstage lol...so, when we met Eric, who was so genuinely awesome, my cousin said to him: "Hey, I heard you got your solo back in the show! Don't let those 2 knuckleheads push you around!" Eric looked all around himself, as if checking to see where Gene was (Paul was not there), then looks at my cousin and says, "I won't". That spoke volumes to me.

[@maldicientin]

Your cousin was already aware back then that Gene and Paul were douchebags? Really?

[@biasedpanic]

If he were a drummer he probably did

[@DarthVader19-77]

If Paul's account is accurate it seems as though Eric lived in fear or lacked self esteem. Hell, there's no shame in that. He's human. I believe Elvis Presley lacked self esteem if you can believe that. If he did then anybody could. I'm not claiming that was Eric Carr's situation, but if it was I definitely respect that. He's the new guy on one of the most famous successful bands ever. That's a huge responsibility. If he was distraught about not being the original drummer that seems to me to be an "odd man" out feeling and harkens back to the whole self esteem issue. I'm not in the business or anything, but I never heard anything negative about Eric Carr. From what I've read and heard he was a very nice man. It's a shame we lost him so soon.

[@patrickdezenzio4988]

@@maldicientin Every Kiss fan knew that. I knew that even before the 1980s. The thing is, I never knew how much they were like that until far far later.

[@stanharjak1491]

That's Funny And Cool at the same time 🤙

[@TubeRJF]

If you read Gene Simmons' biography, he doesn't have a bad word to say about anyone. All Gene would say about Eric was how much he liked him, how he was pleasant to work with and how sad he was when he passed away

[@dane21dc]

Gene’s bark is a lot worse than his bite. Paul on the other hand is bitterly vindictive

[@keiffermcmillan1]

And now over 30 Years after Eric Carr has passed away which was over shadowed by the legendary Freddie Murcury which just happened on the same day ... but Eric Carr has been inducted into the Hall of Fame ... well deserved and well over due 30 Years ..R.I.P Eric Carr

[@BAR-ct7ti]

Carr was actually steps ahead of Paul and Gene. Almost like he had 2nd sight. He saw Paul and Gene (especially Paul) for what they really were near the end. Greedy, self absorbed pricks.

[@stanharjak1491]

🥁🦊 YES!!!!!!!!! ERIC CARR IS A GOOD GUY.

[@SuperAce5150]

Typical Paul Stanley, putting himself in a good light. Met them on the Creatures UK promo tour, signing their album. Ace was wrecked, Gene was aloof, Paul was smug but Eric was lovely. A genuinely nice guy who dedicated his autograph, posed with fans and made their day. I'll never forget how humble and decent he was.

[@tinadailey1297]

Omg Paul's perfect he'd intelligent intellectual talented angelic gorgeous highly appreciated by true kiss fans,

[@michellelance6673]

@@tinadailey1297 ****SCREW**** PAUL STANLEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE DUDE IS A **********(TRUE)********** *********(DEFANITION)*********** ***************OF************** **************A***************** ***********(DOUCHE BAG)************** 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@BuckyLastard]

Eric was extremely nice when I met him after the filming of the Crazy Nights video in downtown L.A. I asked him if he used a floating snare and he said, "No, it just sits there on the stand" and he cracked up laughing with me. Seemed very down-to-Earth!

[@tommccarron324]

nice...talk bad about the guy when he's dead..

[@maxxard7992]

I usually have respect for Paul, but here he's just a complete jerk. I mean honestly

[@carlhepp6193]

It’s just par for the course for this insecure asshole.

[@rustyblades2566]

You know Paul.....who ever is in the band at the time is the greatest ever. Case in point..Tommy Thayer. We all know Tommy is just a poor and cheap imitation of Ace. Talking trash about Eric Carr dead or alive is plain wrong and stupid

[@DrewPeabaws]

This was edited

[@DrewPeabaws]

This was edited

[@rocketqueen.3161]

eric, sweetie, i'm so sorry, i'm so sorry that paul would ever do this to you. they (gene & paul) didn't deserve him at all

[@KinleeTheOfficial]

Sadly this is edited. It makes it sound what Paul said was horrible when he was just sharing fun stories with Eric Carr

[@kevinchandler179]

My ass!!! Keep sticking up for Stanley, he bashed living legends like Peter and Ace and now doing the same thing to Eric???

[@thegamingfish547]

Eric is one of the most wholesome nice dudes. i’m so tired of paul trash talking literally everyone. all the kiss audios are just “everyone’s fault not ours”

[@messiahtorahamerica]

Maybe the door choose those parts. We have to read all the book

[@stuartewoldt1513]

No, thats everyone fault not MINE

[@steveblair8661]

3:29 Paul says Eric shouldn't camo paint a car so it doesn't look like a circus mobile. But dressing up like a clown to play a show is totally different.

[@matthewmacdonaldchannel1]

This needs more likes.

[@apolodord1439]

@@matthewmacdonaldchannel1 why tho? Paul never dressed as a clown, i remember him as 'the starchild'!

[@chrisgodlaproductions3106]

Yet he said "absolutely not". Isn't it that when someone gives you a "gift" it is yours to do what you please with? Paul "helped him pick out a new wardrobe cause he needed it" Sounds like he needed Paul's permission to wipe his own ass. What an asshole! Oh yeah, Paul also had to teach him how to deal with women's sexual advances and how to act in a restaurant? What an ASSHOLE!

[@stuartewoldt1513]

@@apolodord1439 starchild, the feminine ray of light blazing across the 😮😯😲🦴😮😯🦴😲😲😳

[@ss_whole]

0:15 "We (Paul and Gene) didn't want big name drummers".....cause due to our big egos we wanted all the focus on us.

[@SuperfedzPal]

Big names would want more money...

[@MrArcovanA]

And that's pretty normal given the circumstances.. Ain't that exactly why you call yourself 'Super Kyle', because of your ego..?

[@shawngregory1429]

Super Kyle Anyone who plays with Kiss (post Ace & Peter) is merely an employee of Gene and Paul. You get a salary, benefits and maybe a bonus check at years end. No big name drummer is going to take that deal anyway.

[@SuperfedzPal]

Ha, name one big name drummer (of any importance), that wouldn't take the gig with Kiss. Funny, I can't think of any. Their just drummers... lol

[@ss_whole]

They had to hire an unknown anyway, KISS was still wearing the makeup when Eric was hired. Can't have the media knowing the identity of the drummer.

[@scottudell7202]

Paul sure shows his true colors in this, and it's sickening. The saddest part of all is that Eric isn't around anymore to defend his own name. Speaking ill of the dead like that... Totally classless.

[@MrGod1973]

If you listen to the whole thing, Paul's book You will see that Paul talked about everyone good AND bad .... Paul is honnest and he tells it like it is ... ALL of the KISS books talks about other members good and bad ... Paul even talks about himself in a negative way ... With a career like Paul's you have a lot to say ... In this video you get snippets taken here and there in the book .... Read or listen to THE WHOLE book then come bake and tell me about it !!

[@scottudell7202]

MrGod1973 I've listened to a good portion of his audiobook already. He talks smack about everyone. Yes, he does say some good things and also says some negative stuff about himself. But all I'm saying is that for he to talk ill of Eric like that, especially when he's dead, just seems to be in extremely poor taste. Some things are best left unsaid, especially if it's towards someone who isn't even alive anymore to defend themselves.

[@MrGod1973]

Scott Udell So since Hitler is dead we cant say nothing negative about him ?? .... My father died a few years ago ... I loved my dad but sometimes i talk to my friends about some negative thing that happened between me and my dad ... It dont mean i dont love or respect him ... Paul is talking about his personnal life and this is a few things that happenned beyween him and Eric ... It's ok to talk about people in a positive or negative way ....

[@scottudell7202]

MrGod1973 Hitler ordered the extermination of a group of people. Eric died of cancer. Your reasoning doesn't make much sense.

Scott Udell - And coming off as a total asshole, to make such comparisons.

[@pts5217]

“Eric struggled with the fact that he wasnt the FIRST drummer”...such a loaded statement. Paul tries to make Eric look crazy as someone who resents not being to magically become the original drummer...when to me its pretty obvious that Eric likely resented always being a second tier/hired gun member instead of a full fledged member despite all his contributions and how much time he put in...Gene and Paul are pretty notoriously greedy and power hungry, I can understand Eric growing to resent making significantly less money and having virtually no say in band decisions despite helping reshape the bands sound in a successful way and going out of his way to connect with fans.

[@gabifrancis7414]

Eric was actually friends with Peter and Eric only wanted to be in the band agreements and to contribute to songs

[@EKNYR]

@@gabifrancis7414 Eric was also friends with Ace Frehley. This says a lot about everyone else in KISS.

[@charlesquillen35]

Paul’s carefully modulated, monotone voice betrays how hard he’s trying to convince everyone and himself that he’s not the bad guy. It’s really lame to speak ill of the dead, especially someone you worked with for ten years. The fact that Paul threw so much shade at Eric clearly shows how insecure and petty Paul really is.

[@thedesertdweller]

the what a shmuck was edited into this, it's fake...

[@SJUCityBoy]

Mr. Caravello, could you elaborate on Mr. Eisen's testimony? Guess not. He's dead. Not cool Paul. Totally not cool.

[@maxxard7992]

This comment deserves WAY more likes.

[@Ricardo-go7yu]

Agreed gaston 100%.

[@1983jcheat]

Let the Fox Rest in Peace.

[@trustobey1016]

I think Paul never got Eric's sense of humor about painting the car. What a schmuck.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

I'm glad you said this. Given Eric's personality, many of these stories don't make sense. I'm happy to hear EC was just kidding around.

[@maxxard7992]

This comment deserves WAY more likes

[@johnmurphy3152]

We don’t know who we’re dealing with.. Paul And gene are perfect?

[@mikeblanchette6697]

Yeah he's a dick

[@Melodycat918]

Paul's a major dick

[@theformernihilist9891]

NOBODY in the entertainment industry has committed career suicide the way Gene and Paul have with all these 2 faced rants. It will actually kill everything you once loved about this band, it's like being a kid again and finding out Pro Wrestling is fake. Vinnie Vincent and Eric Carr helped save what was left of this band, "Thanks for making our Disco band Hard Rock again, now we have to shit all over you even when you're dead like all the other guys because Gene and Me only look out for each other."

[@EKNYR]

Vinnie is a self-indulgent asshole... He's also the best guitarist (talent wise) Kiss ever had. Ace is Kiss obviously, but...

[@harmonygalvin1814]

But even those two don't look out for each other.

[@stephanietanner7927]

What the hell bro Eric was the nicest human being on the face of the earth. As Paul and gene said “we loved him the fans loved him and he will never be forgotten.” He deserves better.

[@KinleeTheOfficial]

Its edited sadly, making Paul and Gene sound horrible. Really Carr would mumble what a smuck to himself since he joined. Most of the key details and funny bits are edited out. Its really just funny stories with Eric Carr. : (

[@kevinchandler179]

My ass, edited!!! Paul and Gene were always jealous of Peter and Ace and it continued with poor Eric!!!

[@jonathanmitchell9886]

If you play this backwards, you can hear Paul Stanley saying, "I'm a wretched human being and I deserve to be stricken with painful, inoperable rectal cancer."

[@keltrepes2534]

I shouldn’t laugh at that but damn I couldn’t help it.

[@princechawmin2491]

Yes, that’s right

[@jeffreywarme8594]

I have never heard a negative word about Eric Carr before. When I met Paul at his book signing he was cold and now after hearing this my admiration for Paul just dropped a lot. WhenI met Gene at his signing, he was jovial and gracious. Eric Carr helped make Creatures through Crazy Nights great albums.

[@therealogre765]

Also Vinnie

[@EKNYR]

Gene is an unapologetic PoS, but I can imagine that he'd be a blast to hang out with for a while.

[@ferox965]

I never met Paul, but I met Gene at his book signing for his first book. Gene was totally down to earth with me.

[@zannigan222]

Met Paul at both his book signings, he was extremely nice and personable. He was, however, being rushed since the line was hours long.

[@daveshere]

Eric Carr will always be the guy who saved Paul's career. Point blank and simply put!.., without Peter...., kiss was going down hill. And only the fox knew he was needed

[@dyer2cycle]

Come on....trash talking Peter, Ace, Vinny....justified maybe...but ERIC CARR?? Come on! No reason to trash talk Bruce Kulick, either.....

[@maxxard7992]

I agree. What a schmuck (Paul is)

[@maxxard7992]

Or Eddie Van Halen

[@jeffdolby]

eric keep the band alive

[@booshting3520]

@Spyro The Bandicoot he didn't, the op is getting carried away.

[@tarasbulba3190]

Bruce Kulick is a foster child in the world of "Rock Guitarists". He was ok, but that's it. He's no Ace, or Mark Farner and is completely out of place in Grand deFunked Railroad. Bruce and Bob should be able to stand on their own if they are so great!Mel, Don, Gene, and Paul should team up and call themselves "The Bastards" or something like that. Money and egos always screw the fans!

[@snapplehubbs]

Jeez, I cant wait till the KISS goodbye tour (2) is over so I can hear Paul and Gene talk shit about Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer, I'll bet they try to convince us it was their idea to wear ace & peters makeup.

[@indyracin1]

I was going to go to one of the end of the road shows. I'm glad I saw all of this. Very disrespectful the way Eric was treated and talked about. Not going now.

[@NickCADA]

@@indyracin1 how much is a KISS concert ticket $100-$1000 dollars. You’d be better off spending that money at Taco Bell

[@mikeharris127]

Eric Carr was a great drummer and a very nice person.

[@fh276]

Really, Stanley Eisen. Whom, is the real schmuck? Eric, is not around to tell his side, of the story. A coin has two sides, just like you have two faces.

[@monikaudvardy8980]

Exactly!

[@JJ-19874]

Paul isn’t the one calling Eric a shmuck listen to face the music Paul said whenever Eric would do something like grab the hot plate Eric would shake his head and murmur “ what a schmuck “ Eric was calling himself a schmuck but the person who made this video decided to leave that part out

[@pts5217]

JJ 87 Paul was very calculated. He absolutely painted an unflattering picture of Eric Carr. He made him look naive, dumb, irrational, and moody plus he never copped to how he mistreated Eric. Gene and Paul paid him peanuts compared to their share, never gave him a say in decisions, replaced him as soon as he got sick. They treated Eric as a liability when he wasnt able to be at their beck and call bc he was having health problems. Gotta make more money. They kept the band as their main priority despite Eric’s medical issues. Left him behind. Paul paints this picture where Eric and his family abruptly became hostile towards Paul/Gene for no reason. Throughout the book Paul is always the victim. Any relationship that became strained was 100% never his fault. It was always the other person being irrational, jealous, greedy, or just deciding to hate Paul for no reason.

[@vinniestvincent3112]

Eric the best drummer

[@Daskeladden1]

Singer?

[@charleswilson1583]

carr

[@boredumb7365]

and vinnie was the shredder

[@MichaelDouglasSkewes]

Yes,always overlooked . Gene and Paul drove Vinnie crazy! I know that a lot of people give Vinnie crap,but he went through a lot of shit,his wife being murdered and never really recovering from that ! I knew him for a couple years in the mid 80s, he was nice and excited about getting out of KISS and doing his own thing ,which was better than what kiss did in the non make up years .

[@trazleigh7134]

If you mean Eric Carr, i totally agree. Eric Carr Rocked!!

[@TheProject-fw3qc]

Does Paul or Gene actually like anyone?

[@osamabinladen9043]

They like me

[@martinbaker2322]

Teufelhund Odinic Rite themselves maybe?

[@TheProject-fw3qc]

true lol

Teufelhund Odinic Rite - I do know they love their financial advisors and accountants.

[@russellj.s.257]

Teufelhund Odinic Rite Gene and Paul don't even like each other.

[@alexanderpavlov787]

He was a Phenomenal Drummer!..May he rest in peace!!

[@dominickcolella5772]

C'mon Paul. Eric was a cool dude overall. RIP Eric. He was so much fun to be around

[@slow71971]

the more i listen to paul more I realize he's just a snob.

[@belphegorlebon1213]

Yeah especially when you listen on his impression about Vinnie and then Ace would tell almost the opposite of how he was described

[@bigogarland7325]

Yeah. Eric just answered all his fan mail. Pretty ungrateful.

[@Gumbypotty]

According to Chris Lendt and Bill Aucoin Eric Carr complained that he wasn't a _full member_ of the band, _not_ that he wasn't an _original member_. I think it was like this: *Eric:* _-"Why can't I become a full member of the band? I've played with you guys for years!"_ *Paul:* -"Because you're not an original member like me and Gene. We hired you". *Paul to others:* _-"Eric is delusional and wants to become an original member of the band. That's impossible because he wasn't there when we founded the band! What a schmuck!"_

[@Gumbypotty]

Stan, I couldn't agree more. The guys in Iron Maiden behave like a band. Steve Harris is the boss, but they are all band members. They even kept Jannick when Adrian returned. That's camaraderie! KISS is a corporation owned by Gene and Paul. The drummer and lead guitarist are employees.

[@rbagel55]

Judas Priest operates the same way, every band member has equal say so in matters

[@countvond233]

Ace and Pete were still on the payroll and partners. How do you pay a hired gun a founding member's salary? You can't. KISS existed off of the material of the original members. The years with Eric Carr were some of the bleakest years of their career. He was talented but a poor choice for KISS. If he was so miserable he should have left and gotten another gig.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

The late Dave Holland wasn't a band member. He was a hired hand. When Priest was sued after that suicide in 1988 (I think) in Nevada, Dave wasn't in court. I couldn't figure out why. Then I read he was never an actual member of the band and thus, was not named in the suit against Priest. Even though it wasn't Dave on Stained Class, the parents of the boy sued the band as of 1988. Dave wasn't officially in it, so he wasn't in court. But I still get your point. Priest was far better to work for than Paul and Gene. What a pair of schmucks.

[@satyendrandonibanerjee8682]

It's kind of sad because basically what this was was a bunch of misunderstandings from each other led by more misunderstandings each other, I really wished they were able to reconcile before Carr's death.

[@queenbarbtherockstar6218]

RIP eric carr 😭💔

[@finchharper4647]

Open casket funerals are HORRIBLE. They RUIN the lovely memories you have of that person.

[@dame5372]

RIP ERIC CARR without Eric kiss wouldn’t of made it through the 80’s probably one of the most underrated drummers and musician best drummer kiss had he was thunderous not flashy with the sticks like singer but beat the hell out of the drums heaven has bonham and mr Carr

[@bigdaddy0614]

Even if this stuff is true, then I don't get why Paul feels obligated (Outside of money) to share this with the world. If he cared or respected Eric in any way, he could have spared Eric's friends, family and fans any negative, but trivial aspects of Eric. In the short period of time that Ace worked with Eric, he shows more love and respect for him than Paul ever did. I think there is some personal & professional jealousy issues involved. Eric is one of the most beloved and respected Kiss members even though he's not an original.. Bruce said that Eric was a little pushy when it came to songwriting and wanted to contribute more, but in the end, was basically informed, he's just a hired gun.. Sadly, all Eric wanted to do, was offer more input into a band that he helped resurrect in the 80's. In the 25 years since Eric died, he's still beloved and considered not only one of the most important members of Kiss, but now is getting the recognition for his drum playing. Kiss fans know he was more than just a hired gun.. In the last 25 years, Kiss has become more well known for being a nostalgic act with more emphasis put on quantity or quality. More style over substance. Which isn't too far from where they've always been, but at least in the past we got shades of creativity and more music driven albums like Creatures, Lick It up & Revenge.. I think Paul is somewhat jealous that two decades after his death, Eric is held in more high regard than Kiss is as a whole.

[@daveg5420]

I bought Paul's audio book after listening to this. This audio was edited to make Paul sound like an ass. ie in Pauls audio book Eric call himself a schmuck. He speaks highly of Eric in his book up until chapter 39 that's as far as I've made it through the book

[@tessgray678]

Dave G I was wondering why the audio sounded like it had been cut from other audio peace's.

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

I disagree. I'm glad he did, Eric comes across like a normal guy and Paul comes off ass his arrogant self, God complex and all!

[@NoMoreBsPlease]

@@daveg5420 You clearly haven't seen his live interview with Rogan. He's definitely got issues.

[@rodbelding9523]

From everything Paul said, Eric just sounds like he was a shy, sheltered guy who was unsure how to handle being in a famous band. It's really messed up to be calling him a "schmuck" and what not just because of that.

[@orlandoramos1878]

I just don't get people like that at all and I know everybody has different views about how they treated Eric but my personal opinion is they should have more sympathy for this man didn't know he was sick I know he had cancer everything you know I'll be fine. Jude's sign as a friend and let him know we're not going to do anything without you until you get better Paul Stanley and Gene they got a lot to learn about being being learned how to be good friends with somebody good friends are hard to come by are car was a good soul and he didn't deserve to be treated like that

[@pokimane8898]

I don't like Paul but he wasn't calling Eric a schmuck. Eric was calling himself a schmuck.

[@stuartewoldt1513]

@@pokimane8898 is that how the book reads those passages. Cuz it sounds like Paul is calling him a jackass

[@pokimane8898]

@@stuartewoldt1513 yep! Eric said "what a schmuck" a lot, referring to himself.

[@thedesertdweller]

the what a shmuck was edited into this, it's fake...

[@chuckbailor8221]

At first it sounded like he was remembering a friend like he would interact with him in life, but overall it was an un called for trashing. Very asshole ish. This warrents a thorough ass beating.

[@Gunnar.J]

Wtf!? Paul and Gene hate everyone that’s not them. The best and nicest person ever in Kiss was Eric Carr and fans loved him for how and who he was. That’s probably what got Paul jealous so he has to put a dead man down. This is beyond wrong. Just wow!

[@JDSoos]

Wow! What a great guy. I've never heard anyone except Paul talk bad about Eric. Paul is so bitter.

[@maddyhoverter]

Mabey it's time he says bad things about himself

[@sonicriccardi7575]

The only members we haven’t heard him talk about now is himself.

[@bryanmirandosfreeforallpod7922]

Even gene says good things about him.

[@mikeyyostpille3753]

Paul Stanleys new book coming out soon tited "What A Schmuck!"

[@breando1]

Mikey Yostpille ....describing himself of course, but I can think of stronger words.

[@Playitstraight44]

He thought maybe the deceased Eric Carr was using drugs but he's not sure, so he says it publicly anyway for effect? That really sums up Paul Stanley. The guy walks around butt-hurt by everything and seems to relish the idea of talking smack about people whenever he can as if that empowers his sense of insecurity. The man is terminally attention starved.

[@rossrondinelli1602]

Rick Baker

[@carlhepp6193]

Rick Baker The man is a complete asshole. He’s too old now, but he needed serious mental help for his insecurity. If this guy isn’t getting blown 24/7, you are a piece of shit.

[@Nick-mq9on]

Early Eighties I did Six legs of different Kiss tours on the tech end. Eric was a delight to be around, a regular guy he still couldn't wrap his head around the fact that he was the Kiss drummer and hadn't been spoiled like the majority of R&R muso's. The rest of the band were of the "My shit don't stink variety".

[@dogslobbergardens6606]

"We wanted him to know he wouldn't be a second-class citizen in KISS - so for the rest of his life we treated him like shit."

[@NickCADA]

In the band KISS everyone is second-class citizen apart from Gene and Paul. Doesn’t matter how you work for the band.

[@zachary_attackery]

How is he ungrateful? Paul is a liar, they cut him off from their insurance towards the end and fired him officially.

[@FuckThatYo]

Ungrateful is just in the video title. Paul never once said, or even implied that he was ungrateful. It must have been hard for you to have to be in the middle between Eric, Paul, and Gene, during that difficult time... Oh! You weren't there? Well then how the fuck do you know what really happened. Unless you have some kind of proof, that isn't here say, then kindly shut the fuck up. You didn't have to watch too many Eric Carr videos to realize that he was a very small fish, in a gigantic pond... Sort of like a guppy in the Pacific, and you could tell that he felt pretty small time. Eric Carr was far too sweet of a person, for the situation he was thrust into, and simply lacked the confidence to ever feel secure. Insecure people are desperate, and do desperate things... Like constantly obsess. His obsessing would have inevitably been passed onto his friends and family, who were always around, because he was sick. Anyone in his situation would grow increasingly bitter, desperate, and looking for a place to lay blame. No disrespect to Eric. He was in a nightmare, and reacted how many, many people do, when they realize that life is moving ahead, while you must come to grips with the fact that you're being left behind, and soon checking out. The fact is, that sort of situation is hard enough for an average regular person. For someone living out a dream, like Eric Carr... It must be that just a little bit harder to accept. The intense feelings of loss he had to have been experiencing could have certainly caused him to wrongfully blame Paul and Gene for everything. And in such situations, the family members of the person left behind, while life moves on, can be as, if not more bitter than the person who is dying. KISS was Eric Carr's world. He lost everything including his life, at a very young age. With so much future stolen from him, it's no wonder things ended badly for pretty much everyone. I've heard for years about how Paul"bad mouths" Eric Carr in his book, and that he "doesn't ever respect the dead", and other such bullshit. Anyone with a fucking brain, regardless of functionality, should be able to recognize the love, and helplessness in Paul's words, when he wrote about Eric. There wasn't an unkind word in there, only confusion over Eric's sometimes erratic, unpredictable mannerisms. People need to grow up, and realize that Ace and Peter, and even Eric Carr, had serious issues, which made them hard to deal with at times. ... Or at least people need to learn how to fucking read. In my opinion, the dots definitely line up. I am quite confident that Paul is telling the truth on this one.

[@zachary_attackery]

Fuck That, Yo! "people need to grow up" >writes 2000 word long reply to stranger on a youtube video

[@boriskarloff3270]

+ZachAttack84 That's a lot of crap, people have been spreading that bullshit for years. Even if they had fired him, the plain fact is he'd still have been eligible for COBRA and could have paid the monthly premiums for an additional 18 months with no lapse or loss in coverage.

[@DrTomoculus]

I just like that Gene & Paul's manifesto to the KISS ARMY was drink and party every day --- yet are in total disgust about people who do such things. That's the problem. They both despise their audience, but love their money. They mean not a single thing of what they're singing. It's karma to have Simmons sing Cold Gin the rest of his performing life. Sweet karma. It tells you what a sham he is. PARTY EVERY DAY people. Sorry you losers like Ace, Peter, Eric, Vinnie ..... that's what they sold you.

[@petercriss9001]

Fuck That, Yo! Paul fuck you!

[@Donttalktostrangers1985]

Rest in peace Eric, Paul needs to thank Eric for putting up with shit.

[@mariek6993]

We wanted a drummer who came out of nowhere, would do what we said, and would stay out of their spotlight.

[@jonnyblade46]

As I understand it, Gene and Paul fired a dying man, fighting cancer. I don't understand how PS can complain about this guy, years after his death. How can you give resigning papers to a dying guy? How do you live with yourself?

[@DougWebbguitar]

Buddy of mine ran security for kiss lick it up tour and said Eric was the nicest guy , said Paul and Gene were just like you think they would be .. course Vinnie was odd he said

[@AnonymousAnonymous-oi2pl]

Does Paul or gene ever say anything nice about anyone? They're good actors if u watch their interview about Eric passing away. Crocodile tears. Hypocrites. Honesty is nice,but ive always heard if u have nothing good to say,don't say anything. Luv u Eric. Paul and gene weren't so cultured in beginning either. Arrogance. R.I.P. ERIC🙏!

[@ferox965]

Gene has never said a bad word about Eric.

[@comicelaya]

So sad to hear Paul trashing the late Eric Carr. He continue slamiing Peter and Ace. but come on Eric can't defend and response to your attacks. What a lame, shame on both Paul and Gene doing action figures and getting money of this fallen drum heroe. Also, the band didn’t stop while Eric attempted to recover is hard to believe. It did bother Eric Carr greatly that while he was fighting cancer his band was already recording with Eric Singer. Money is the only god for Gene & Paul.

[@jillianebrown6572]

Paul is the schmuck thinking rockstars wouldn't act like rockstars.

[@EKNYR]

Wait, Ace, bro, you wanna go have fun? Nah, man.

[@heythereitsRBK2]

Eric Carr: *Introverted, goofy, kind-hearted, and not your traditional rock and roll star* Paul Stanley after he's dead: *Eric Carr was an insecure schmuck*

[@BeeKay5150]

Eric Carr stayed loyal to the band when they couldn't get arrested. Dark days. I say he was good people.

[@berniecasey7592]

I wouldn't give KISS a dime on this final Tour -We Love Eric.

[@LakesideRocker66]

Pretty shitty, Paul. The way you once talked about how great Eric was. How he was such a sweet, kind, breath of fresh air... and how genuinely devastated you were over his passing... then this? A clumsy, insecure, immature, naive, paranoid schmuck? Kinda confirms how his family thought about you and Gene. No wonder you were so uncomfortable at his funeral. Chalk one up for keeping appearances. I hope you don't believe in karma... because we all shine on. RIP Eric.

[@GooglSucksDisk]

"A clumsy, insecure, immature, naive, paranoid schmuck" Even those these words by PS were used to describe how he felt about Eric, they are actually words on how he feels about himself. Total projection, psychology 101

[@rmknepp]

I don't know why Paul would go on to say things about Eric Carr? I think it makes Paul look worse than they way he portrayed Eric... even if all he said about Eric is true....

[@Andybaby]

Of course if The Elder was a smash hit, Paul would be bragging about it, rather than blaming Ezrin.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

But Ezrin was responsible! And Paul "blames" Ezrin's drug abuse.

[@enriquelopez594]

I'm beginning to understand why I didn't go to this past tour.... Eric deserves better than this

[@jcw91371]

It's sad that Paul and Gene have, in a roundabout way, been slowly killing my affection for KISS every time they reach in to the past and open their mouths. If I watch or listen to an interview with Ace or Pete, it's like listening to two normal guys talk about rock and roll; I don't feel like I'm being spun, or that the narrative is being doctored or glossed to create a good impression. Not so with the other two original members.

[@gabifrancis7414]

Also Ace and Pete are the true KISS to me the rockstars and after they left in 2003 KISS died to me

[@stuartewoldt1513]

I really hate to say it but, Gene and Paul even though they say they're not religious they completely feel exactly how the Torah reads, that all Gentiles are not human beings but rather animals and only they are human. They have treated all band members as tools and trash, us we d them and thrown them away and made themselves a shining diamond. Its the only reason I can think of for their behavior.

[@izcallifornication]

PAUL BECAME A BITTER OLD MAN.

[@maxxard7992]

R.I.P. Eric

[@montecarlostar]

Woman*

[@chloemoore4199]

DRAMA QUEEN!👑👸🏿

[@dbrjaxfl]

"Issues shape personalities." Very astute Mr. Stanley. Now, apply it to yourself.

[@rasmussvensson9255]

WARNING! This audio has been edited to make Paul seem bad. I have read the book and some of the material from the book has been cut out from this audiofile. An example of this occurs at 04:48 when Paul start to talk about the visit on the restaurant in Paris. Paul DID NOT call Eric a schmuck according to the book. Eric used to say that about himself when he messed up. Again, according to the book, Eric spilled wine on himself, looked up to the ceiling and said "What a schmuck" to himself. Everybody, look it up yourself if you don't believe me and stop commenting about Paul being an asshole until you get your facts straight.

[@thewebbqueen38]

This is not an accurate depiction of what Paul said in the book. It's very cleverly edited to make him sound a whole lot more cruel and harsh than he actually was

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

I noticed that something was wrong!

[@Retroalicemichael]

Eric was so down to earth and he probably was an emotional person he had his heart on his sleeve but a cry baby common Paul

[@Notarealhandl3]

They’re addicts in their own way gene sex addict ace and Peter substance abuse and Paul loves his public image and popularity

[@pameladiez4933]

I meet him in 1987,hanging out at layouts in Brooklyn.he was a really nice guy.he was really friendly,and we had a couple of drinks at the bar.i forgot what band I was seeing that night.must have been,metallica,or somebody else.i don't even remember.thats my story,when I met Eric Carr.!!🎸🥁👍🦉💡😁

[@KaddysJamKave]

In Kiss Xposed Paul says that after Eric Carr died, he was asking around about drummers and that a name that kept coming up was "Eric Singer" making it sound as if he didn't know him but had a reputation for being a great drummer so they brought him in to audition etc.... But here Paul says that Eric Singer was playing for him in his solo band while Eric Carr was still alive. Conflicting stories... maybe Eric Carr was right about them going to replace him with Eric Singer. Hmmmmm. Interesting....

[@TheMichaelseymour]

Couldnt agree more with you - furthermore they had glowing things to say in tribute -and then say derogatory things ...they say WHATEVER they need/ have to- they are insincere toward their own feelings even . I would never expect the truth from them .

[@KaddysJamKave]

***** Thanks... haven't looked yet... but just found it odd that Paul wasn't up front about it in the early 90's on their official videography.

[@KaddysJamKave]

Oh yeahhh, that's the one! :)

[@KombatRealm]

it's extreme close up. not exposed. and Secondly, Paul never said that. I have the vhs and dvd.

[@KaddysJamKave]

shinnox I already acknowledged it was extreme close up ^^ I have the vhs too, I think you're wrong.

[@NeilCrouse99]

I used to worship Kiss, ... my first album was "Alive", when I was 10 or 11 yrs. old. To find out just how dysfunctional and self-centered almost EVERYONE who has been associated with Kiss is disheartening. Paul, and especially Gene, appear to be self-absorbed to the extreme. Peter and Ace were/are drug addicts and alcoholics. And I haven't heard a good tune from them since "Love Gun". JMO

[@marclaurent4831]

3:56 “heaven forbid we put him (Eric Carr) in a character we already knew…that seemed too obvious and sacrilegious” 20 years later Paul and Gene make Eric Singer “the catman” and Tommy Thayer “the spaceman” characters they already knew..oh Paul.

[@peterknicked]

I thought the same as you. Such bullshit from Paul. He wrote this book when Singer/Thayer was in the band pretending to be Peter/Ace. Ridiculous statement from Paul. Eric and Vinnie got their own make-up, that was more legit than this.

[@bradfry1144]

I Llke How Paul Talks About Finding A Character For Eric & How Wrong It Would Be To Use Peter's.. But They Did It Anyway Later..In His Words...Used A lot What Schmucks!!

[@breando1]

Brad Fry exactly! As normal Stanley shows what a hypocrite and liar he is.

[@Rickprimest]

Why did you capitalize every word...?

[@tarasbulba3190]

Paul...what a schmuck he is!

[@charltonmcmillen7422]

Paul's autobiography has been the worst read so far for me. Nothing but insecurities and he sure knows how to belittle someone while making himself look like gold.

[@MichaelDouglasSkewes]

I totally agree ! I didn't like any of them ,the best book is the one they were told to put out by management to bring things together , Nothin' to lose , is a great book and almost makes you forget the 4 cry baby books !

[@thomassimeiii3599]

YUP, what a scumbag, talking shit about a dead man like this, only a piece of shit would do something like this

[@thomassimeiii3599]

lol never heard a KISS fan say "nigga" before

[@MichaelDouglasSkewes]

Thomas Sime III HaHaHa! That took a weird turn!

[@MichaelDouglasSkewes]

***** like Ace said,people that bought Peters book on Amazon alslo buy a chair and a rope to hang themselves! I guess Ace is writing another book that will be more about dirt,like Peter's this time! I like the book Peter's first wife put out,she gave me a signed copy!

[@whitecloud_94]

read THE ERIC CARR STORY By Greg Prato. it will all make sense. Paul and Eric did not get along. Paul groomed Eric Singer to take Erics place and Carr knew it. it got to the point where Eric was keeping his eye out for bands in need of a drummer. it wasn't good between Eric and Paul towards the end. there's no doubt that some pretty shady shit went down between the business side of Paul Gene and the record company vs Eric Carr. but hey don't take my word for it. buy the book! just note that according to Erics best friend Gary Corbett, said Carrie Stevens is not telling the truth. some shit went down man. there's so much more to the story. sure made me doubt my attachment to the band because I was pissed by the events leading up to the fox's death.

[@maryb.hopkins8418]

This is first time I'm hearing about this book, The Eric Carr Story by Greg Prato! I would like to be able to read about Eric's life in book form!

[@whitecloud_94]

Mary B. Hopkins ill lend ya mine!

[@mosesgarner2404]

It's on Amazon.

[@carriestevens]

Gary Corbett never said I wasn't telling the truth! Gary and I are very close to this day. Gary was on the road with Kiss, and saw different thing than I did...and had a own anger issues with Gene and Paul. We both agree some shady shit happened....Gary simply spoke in an angrier tone about it than I did. I try to find peace with the past. It's not healthy to stay in a place of anger. It's hard not to be angry...it's been a lot of work to get to this place. I choose to move on, but the world should know that Paul lied about Eric being on drugs...he wasn't. And he was not a drunk either. Eric was NOT a schmuck. And e neer made out with Ace. The called Paul, "Phyllis" on the road. He shouldn't talk...God bless.

[@whitecloud_94]

Carrie Stevens right on. No disrespect intended at all. You're right. Corbett did not say you were being dishonest in the book. He said so in an interview I saw on KZbin. I forget which vid. I should have mentioned I wasn't talking about the book. If you n Gary are close then it's all good, again I didn't mean to come off as an ignorant shit disturber. The book did leave a very sour taste in my mouth. Of course Eric is not with us anymore and that's heartbreaking. He was my favourite member when I was a little kid and still to this day. Reading your response is refreshing and freeing. Nice to see you took the higher road and moved on with integrity. 🕊🌷Wow long reply here eh lol. GOD BLESS PAULIE CARAVELLO.

[@chuckreece862]

Eric was the nicest warm-hearted person I ever met where as Paul and Gene didn't even want to shake my hand

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

But please, they can not shake millions of hands of their fans. Besides, it' s correct and hygienical NOT to do this!

[@Drahculia]

Amazingly, in current year Paul will release a new KISS CD simply entitled "Beth". Tracklisting: 1. "Beth" (Eric Carr vocal); 2. "Beth" (Eric Singer vocal); 3. "Beth" (Tommy Thayer vocal); 4. "Beth" (Bruce Kulick vocal); 5. "Beth" (Vinnie Vincent vocal: pending legal agreement); 6. "Beth" (Mark St John vocal: pending next-of-kin agreement); 7. "Beth" (Ace Frehley vocal); 8. "Beth" (Pam Bowen vocal with 50% royalties contract); 9. "Beth" (Star Stowe vocal, courtesy of Gene's Vault); 10. "Beth" (Shannon Tweed vocal); 11. "Beth" (Bob Kulick vocal, courtesy of Gene's Vault); 12. "Beth" (Bob Dylan vocal, courtesy of Gene's Vault); 13. "Beth" (Howard Marks vocal, courtesy of Gene's Vault); 14. "Beth" (Gene Simmons harrassed vocal, under duress).

[@pabloboy6397]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mr.halloween2344]

Paul and Gene are D bags. Everything is everyone else fault. We need a kiss my ass tour with all the former members together. I would go to see that.

[@123612100]

Gene actually says a lot of nice things about Eric Carr in his book. I think Gene and Eric were actually good friends. As you can tell from this Paul wasn't friends with him.

[@scissors656]

the fact that he keeps saying (what a shmuck) tells me this is paul.

[@cambell9]

scissors65 hahaha thats exactly what I was thinking!!

[@scissors656]

lol

[@scissors656]

no doubt

[@daveg5420]

I bought Paul's audio book after listening to this. This audio was edited to make Paul sound like an ass. ie in Pauls audio book Eric call himself a schmuck

[@scissors656]

that i can believe, in a joking matter.

[@GrayWoIf]

Eric was good friends with Peter. That must of made Paul furious! also when Ace was in the band he was real close with Ace too.

[@MrGod1973]

LOL !!!

[@maitien3667]

GrayWoIf

[@gabifrancis7414]

I have a few pictures of Eric and Peter together and with Eric and Ace seemed like they didn’t leave each other’s sides and if they let Eric into the band agreements I could see him siding with Ace

[@tieukhavu8832]

How did Peter and Carr got to know each other?

[@gabifrancis7414]

@Tieu Kha Vu I think Peter met Carr when he took his place and they became friends

[@adamwatson6916]

What is so wrong with wanting an ordinary girl instead of a model or penthouse pet ? Why did that make Eric seem troubled or why would that been seem as some sort of character flaw . Picking ordinary women over models even though you could have the models If you wanted them is a positive and Nobel trait in my mind.

[@jemstar3388]

Agree 100 percent, to me it showed how down to earth Eric was and i don’t see it as a character flaw at all.

[@dogslobbergardens6606]

When you look at men like Paul and Gene who constantly have to surround themselves with models to feel good about themselves, you know they've got some serious issues. I'm not a trained psychologist or therapist, but I'm certain somebody who is would have a LOT to say about those two.

[@YvonneWalrond]

Can't believe he is disrespecting Eric like this and he's not here to defend himself. Paul you are bonafide piece of you know what

[@MrDeadhead83]

So what if Eric wasn't the first drummer of Kiss. He was the best drummer of Kiss.

[@michellelance6673]

AMEN TO THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@vinniestvincent3112]

breathing the toxic dust from the stoves may have robbed Eric of he's Life.

[@DevilFish69]

Wow. You maybe on to something. Especially when your dealing with those old time iron stoves. Its almost as bad as breathing in asbestos.

[@dalethelander3781]

Vinnie St Vincent Wow. That never crossed my mind. But, in retrospect, it makes a lot of sense.

[@DIESEL0759]

Doubtful, though. Surely, if he was inhaling something, someone would have connected the dots, so to speak.

[@MrJoeythebabykangaro]

I honestly think that the stress from Gene and Paul caused his cancer. No joke.

[@DIESEL0759]

MrJoeythebabykangaro Please tell me you're joking. Please tell me you're not that stupid to think stress causes cancer. Please.

[@johnmcglasson3287]

Through his book alone I've grown to despise Paul Stanley

[@steveevets9015]

I attended his funeral in Middletown, NY. R.I.P Eric.. What an amazing drummer!!!.... Probably the most Modest member that was ever in KISS... Maybe even in Rock and Roll History. Maybe Fred Coury could give a better picture.

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Does everyone notice how everything is someone else’s fault other than Paul’s?