Escape from Expectations || Getting Tarkoved

Escape from Tarkov is a Norman Door. Covering topics from the scientific method, the design of everyday things, cheaters, netcode, desync, bugs, and more, today we're going to explore all things related to Escape from Tarkov and its constant war on our expectations. This is part two of Getting Tarkoved!
Please do me a favor and show some love to these streamers, they all seem like really cool dudes, all fantastic players, and deserve a chance to earn your follow!
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0:00 Intro
1:55 Norman Doors
4:30 Communication in Design
5:55 What Hardcore Means
9:38 Lasers and Sights
10:00 Hitscan
10:34 Ballistics
12:25 Getting Outplayed
17:12 Zeroing as a Norman Door
23:54 Player Movement
25:10 Desync and Strafing
29:15 Distrust and Resentment
31:04 Breaking Expectations
32:00 Fundamental Attribution Error
32:54 Multi-perspective Fights
39:35 Being Salty
40:09 The Ultimate Experience
41:15 Can't Trust Tarkov
41:35 New Patch
46:15 Outtro
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[@VeritasGames]

PLEASE HELP ME FIX MY MISTAKE!!! When I looked back at the footage I used the dog tags afterwards to identify the streamers and when editing this video I mistakenly mixed up the tags for the labs 1v3 fight. ic6yyuwu was one of the streamers playing with that group at the time, but the footage I grabbed was from BlizzyR6's stream. PLEASE help me feel less terrible about omitting his info from the video by clicking on his name and giving him a follow on Twitch!!! twitch.tv/blizzyr6

[@joeytmandude]

And then you linked BlizzyR6's stream instead of ic6yyuwu lol

[@MaY_PlaYs]

Were you meant to add ic6yyuwu stream?

[@VeritasGames]

@@joeytmandude I linked ic6yuwu in the video, but he wasnt who I got the footage from.

[@ic6yy949]

i thought for forgot about me daddy

[@ic6yy949]

its all good don't worry about putting my twitch it was a cool experience getting clapped lol

[@ScavsAteMyLegs]

If I go into every raid expecting my cheeks to be divided, i'll never be disappointed.

[@ZeeroDubs]

This is why I enter every raid backwards while looking down. I usually just keep all the gear I go in with, including my weapons, neatly sorted in my backpack to save people the trouble when they kill me.

[@tylersayavanh6199]

Yoooo I saw you on Reserves haha

[@MirZZi]

Well, I've got your dogtags from a scav run so not wrong

[@nightgoon_0_0]

yuuup haha... once you get used to getting wrecked and expect it you start to have fun.

[@b19931228]

Truth be told, if you're just average or above-average but not terribly so. You should have a slight optimistic outcome on the "long term" projection of your stash/pvp prowess. But fixing your mind on the short term outcome like whether you killed a bunch and loot and leave every single game, is bound to be painful.

[@papermachevolcano1480]

No other game makes you feel things like Tarkov does. It's such a unique experience. You explained it wonderfully.

[@xiopia3940]

This is what people say when they've got less then 2 mil and have a tough time killing bosses.

[@titus17]

@@xiopia3940 yeah ... this game's difficulty becomes borderline trivial once you understand scav AI and positioning. The game stops being intimidating and all the excitement comes from PVP which is like 15 to 20 percent of a raid usually at least for me. 9/10 of my deaths to AI now are just to scav bosses.. It's pretty much an unwinnable battle as no matter how much they change the AI people will adapt and unlock level 4 plus armor in time and turn the game into a run and gun pvp fest. I take huge breaks from EFT for many reasons veritas talks about in this video. All of them under the same branch of "total BS" like netcode, scavs bugging out, etc

[@xiopia3940]

@@titus17 k

[@Dynasty1818]

Yeah no other FPS is this broken and inconsistent and unfair. Not because I want to win, but if I drill you with M995 and you don't die, turn and one-tap me with 5.45 BP, that's bullshit.

[@KneeCapHill]

you just trauma bonding. Play something fun and then try to come back to tarkov. It's impossible

[@sovietrussia3632]

The lack of inertia in movements makes it very hard to predict enemies movement in some cases.

[@bestpilots3972]

go back to klins stream, you shitter. it brings more skill differences between players. I'm kidding btw about the first part of my comment :D

[@SuicidalChocolateSK]

Check out squad and it's movement, that's how tarkov should be honestly.

[@titus17]

they should just do away with leveling "strength". Wearing heavy armor should have big downsides across the board. Right now a sweatlord who AFK powerleveled strength to elite is able to play like it's call of duty while wearing heavy gear. It's stupid.

[@217raptor217]

@@SuicidalChocolateSK I hate squad's movement with a passion. Its like molasses

[@mejdlocraftci]

@@217raptor217 nah its fine. In tarkov you are a freakin turbo bear

[@termitreter6545]

Ah, next video. Comment for the algorithm. So lets see why Tarkov is like storming the beaches of Normandoor.

[@VeritasGames]

BRAVO my friend... bravo....

[@techno_tuna]

Comment for the algorithm

[@SFBSpartan]

This shit is honestly fascinating. Such a unique take on gaming content, thanks Veritas :D

[@Snake-xt6jx]

"The old Veritas was back" and the moment the song kicked in i got goosebumps of doom

[@micholous]

I even saw most of it live, but still got my blood flowing and goosebumps! Such a nice treat for people who watched the video to the end :D

[@mstubblefield0621]

That moment though

[@LukasdotMp3]

THANK YOU, for the first time in awhile someone in the community takes a realistic approach to this game (both from a gameplay and development standpoint) , in specific the "Getting Outplayed" section really shined a light on a message more people in this community should take a look at. Also the quality of these videos are outstanding!

[@abirdnamedsuki]

The ending to this episode got me so hyped up. I feel like I could bench press right now.

[@BrodieKerst]

I haven't watched your content in a while but this series made me come back. I honestly love your take and insight into this game!

[@cl4v085]

if i could like this video a thousand times, i would! As a 2017 EFT solo veteran, i lost all trust in my skills in the past couple of months...i just kept getting my ass handed to me over and over again...so i stopped playing...i decided to take a break because i wasn't sure if i was just getting old, or if i just sucked now...hahaha thanks to you, i kind of know what was the problem now.. I remember feeling like i lost my edge or like the tarkov gods were against me all of a sudden! Missing every shots on moving targets, getting killed while in cover, getting randomly #Tarkoved while in full aggressor mode in the custom dorms by a rubber banding player crossing from room to room... those clips and playbacks in slow motion made me realize what was going on. Thank you for taking the time to edit all those clips together. Epic work bud

[@kinsgaming8197]

just play any other modern shooter and your aim will magically be better its not you its the game lol thats the joke of tarkov

[@yellowsaurus4895]

@@kinsgaming8197 its so true tbh. In Insurgency Sandstorm i can click heads like john wick when im really feeling myself, meanwhile in tarkov i often struggle to hit shots that would be easy for me in Insurgency.

[@bobkendomowitz9534]

I thought your point about distrust towards the game was really valid. The number of times (pre 12.8) that I would see scavs to teleport through doors was ridiculous. Factory office was the worst offender. I definitely knew this feeling, but never thought about it as distrust. I was just expecting the game to break, expecting the sound to not register, expecting my headshot to be a delayed kill, or expecting a grenade to either kill me from super far away, or not kill me despite exploding at my feet. But when you labeled this feeling as distrust, it made perfect sense to me. It really is distrust, and no game should make the players paranoid about it simply not working. I really love these videos. They are such high quality, and it's really apparent just how much work, effort, and care has gone into them.

[@gojirafan70]

This is some of the absolute best content about this game that can be applied to most any games. it's honestly why i have been a subscriber for so long. consistent well thought out and explained with logic. more please.

[@ewuf]

I always love hearing your insight and perspective on things. What you said at the end about it just being player vs player. That is the dream. Not being salty about an engagement no matter the outcome and thinking “gg” and meaning it. Keep up the great work

[@jimstephens21]

Your videos are always great to watch. So much info that it can be hard to process it all. Awesome to see it from a different angle and insight.

[@coreoporeo2394]

These are the kind of videos I come to KZbin for, thanks for all the hours of hard work to deliver these videos to us.

[@dillwhop5266]

Finally took the time to watch this video entirely. Im glad I did.The montage at the end made me wanted to get back into the game seriously more then ever! Thanks V.

[@MrBasilDuke]

Your videos have been getting better and better, and they were already fantastic. Also the comparison to usbs was great

[@tomdeacon4751]

I’m really enjoying the in depth look at why this game is the way it is. Such a unique perspective!

[@BACONWRAP]

Really top tier content. I really enjoy this holistic examination of what it feels like to play Tarkov. Most people can't articulate it as well as you put it here. Very well done.

[@titus17]

27:40 exchanges like these are the top reason why i play eft for 3 months then take a 9 month break. And i know im not alone there.

[@tacticaltoaster5777]

Absolutely love this video, along with the previous. I remember watching your zeroing vid and found that approach perfect for removing all confusion over the current zeroing system with all the false assumptions that come with it. The movement clips you showed are also something I've been talking about in the community. Apart from the stutter steps and buggier movement, the lack of inertia on normal, functioning movement past overweightedness and sprinting leads to so many whiffed shots, especially when sniping. It's another example of a norman door that I'm glad had some clips covering it in this video. Real life includes inertia, and various other games have some sort of inertia in movement, anticipation in the animations, or both to avoid the erratic, on demand movement patterns players are capable of producing in Tarkov. I hope the series continues just as strong, and I remain as hopeful for Tarkov's future as you!

[@huns9911]

I love this style of video from you. It helps put things most people kind of understand or relate to into tangible interpretations as well as clarify for those that don't. It was well worth the time to watch.

[@echo301foxtrot]

Coming back and rewatching this is seriously isnpiring. This is why I play escape from tarkov. You so perfectly describe how I feel right now in the wipe, and you also have reminded me of the things I've forgotten that may be causing me to lose so many fights right now. Thank you for this. I hope the future of tarkov is as hopeful as you make it sound in this video. Please keep posting content like this.

[@gandzsalol]

Effort and quality that was put into this video is insane man. Insane job, loved the narrative

[@MitchellDumas]

Yes dude, love this series. Loved watching you live slay out after the arm patch that night.

[@juliusEST]

These videos have been really enjoyable, thank you! The dual-perspective is so cool to watch.

[@iibadii]

I do have to say the end montage was alot smoother. Those clips you posted were desync hell. Hopefully they keep this upward trajectory.

[@christophergoodlad9924]

The Saturday Footage looks amazing! I can feel how it felt like a while ago. When i, like you said, belive the game!!!!!

[@fookinkoont]

A one of a kind content creator, I feel blessed to know you're putting your art and knowledge into a game I absolutely adore. Thx Veritas ♥️

[@ChielScape]

Another good video on the subject. Since you talked about making this a series on the Pogcast, I got excited for more of that philosophical and in-depth approach, and I was not disappointed. Looking forward to the video on skill gaps, how to overcome and know when to give up, if that's gonna be one of them.

[@NorwoodTheRonin]

This video explains what most of the wipe has felt to me. I thought that maybe it was just me, but alas i am not alone and you have opened my eyes even wider to the problem that plagues tarkov currently

[@stevenminer9863]

this is absolutely phenomenal, Veri. You are so great. keep up the good work!

[@memnoninaros1034]

Great video, love the Tarkov soundtrack toward the end there.

[@marciomariz8496]

I just love the depth that you give to that game. Also the soudtrack is amazing in this vid. thx for the content. When i will go for a walk, to do my everyday exercise, certainly i will listen the pogcast on the way. thx to you and jesse.

[@EpicBlumpkinPie]

Really enjoy these videos and the knowledge you share! Keep it up Mike!

[@jaammeesss377]

so much effort goes into these videos man, love your content and your livestream keep up the great work

[@DataTVs]

I've really enjoyed your take and analysis in your recent videos, solid work as always.

[@turboyster]

What a sick job man good god that guitar solo is so appropriate to this awesome footage, great work dude!

[@SIM007N]

I've paused at 4:47 ;), and thank you. I'm a chemist IRL and I love this kind of scientific vision.

[@user-qw3ny5bj7d]

"How many times the experience that you felt was unfair?" This is the first wipe since Labs introduction when my least damaged area overall is right leg instead of head. This many times. My head turned into a bullet magnet. Something is not right. I think that game's netcode is falling apart because they never expected to have so many players.

[@bransonhurt3639]

Thank you so much for putting this so eloquently and giving me an option to show my friends when they ask whats wrong haha...

[@zebeegchungus]

Recommended video. Awesome content with fantastic presentation! Subbed without question

[@DanExert]

I put out a tweet recently which said something along the lines of “something is wrong” - the issues covered in this video, are/were that something and now we can all quantify our experiences thanks to your hard work. Thank you! Also, the montage at the end was epic haha, great composition on the music too!

[@MateohActual]

Killer Video! I have been feeling these issues for a while, and honestly sometimes I think im just going crazy, but it feels good to see someone have a technical view of the situation as it stands. Also, so glad i stayed till the end. Love this video, pls gib moaaarr!

[@mboyvickerz]

Coming from a MechE university student, loving your vids, it's a nice type of content! Glad to see you're 'enjoying' Tarkov after the patch but I know what it can be like, sometimes things just feel unfair, be that on the desync, hackers, etc. Can't wait for when it's just you and Tarkov, nothing inbetween.

[@Moonlightkiller003]

Incredibly well said and summed up. I couldn't have put it better and I think even I realized a bit better what exactly has been bothering me in Tarkov lately compared to 3 years ago. Take this as a huge compliment as it certainly is one. Great content! Thank you so much and have a great day =)

[@DanzoPVP]

Above all else, the amount of time and effort you put into videos is insane and tremendously inspiring my dude. Amazing video and keep up the amazing work.

[@skoeldis7049]

Great video! Would love to see as many videos like this and the one before. Keep up the grind!

[@haymush69]

Alot of thought went into this video, its 100% recognized. The psychology of things really adds extra depth aswell. Great vid man, seriously.

[@ShouldavilleLegacy]

Where’s the entomology video I accidentally requested? Kidding - love this so much

[@enumthunder]

Love to see the videos, so excited about this series

[@jubilantonion1593]

Amazing video Veritas, as always. I love your content, keep up the good work!

[@trytoxania7020]

What a refreshing series, I’m so excited to be here during the time of its production and release

[@dylanpayne371]

I love this series so far, great work!

[@MrCrazeDawg]

Thanks Veritas for the last 2 vids. quality! Started with one of my friends after a year brake. Thanks to him being new to the game I can re-discover Tarkov again :D I go into raid with on expectation: "I will die" :)

[@nikolamilosevic7024]

This is amazing content I love this series, thank you

[@bryski5990]

Veritas, I love the effort you put into your videos. I also love the passion and effort you put into making Tarkov better, your criticisms are fair and should be addressed. Great job, hope the Devs see this video. Thanks.

[@KipColeman]

This series is amazing, Veritas. As you mentioned in your pogcast, I'm so glad you made the "right" videos. :)

[@thepunisher9928]

Something they did recently with 12.8 on the initial patch that I still to this day will attribute my high recent win ratio and my first ever scav boss kill on none other than Sanitar himself, is that of “SCAV WEAPON SWAY.” Yes, it implies that the reason why you got Head Eyes one tapped before across the layers of soft cover from way further than you could ever see by the predator vision boys that back up Sanitar, is because they could see through bushes but most importantly because their weapons behaved differently to them, then they do to us. This is a Norman Door too. You can clip your game play and see how a scav was walking toward you while shooting and got the perfect one tap to the face, but you were standing still mostly and side stepped once so your shot missed as it should. Theirs should have as well and all you can chalk it up to is “well the boy got lucky” or “the bot is literally aim botting me.” Thing is the bots had Tarkov Prime, a paid for subscription that allows you access to a version of the game that is 20 times better than the EOD version most of us know and love. Tarkov Prime was deactivated for the scavs when they introduced this, and I think it’s fair to say you can push scavs more aggressively to invoke a heavy bleed, as they cope with weapon sway the way we do, and suffer immensely from the ground being ripped out from under their scavy legs. Their door has been reversed, while our Norman door has been fixed.

[@themasterkey3]

Veritas makes the highest quality, most intelligent, and thorough EFT videos in the community... period.

[@imsoarty]

I can't help but notice how relevant this video is to Rainbow 6 Siege as well, even though the games are very different. The Expectation vs. Reality segment stood out to me, though in Siege this is more focused on the way the game is balanced, where the Community's Expectations =/= the Devs Reality as well as some game mechanics and server issues shouldn't even exist when they do. Great video, looking forward to more!

[@chandlermorris712]

Awesome video Veritas. Loved the soundtrack at the end

[@AScreamingYeti]

big ups to this video. Best work i've seen you make in a long time. Keep it up, bud!

[@chichukin]

37:16 I noticed you gave credit to 'ic6yyUWU' whilst the person showcased in that clip is 'BlizzyR6' I can see how that happened, I was there that night and ic6yyUWU was another person you killed in that firefight. (I believe the last guy using Warmage)

[@VeritasGames]

THANK YOU FOR POINTING THIS OUT! I pinned a comment hoping to remedy this :(

[@chichukin]

@@VeritasGames glad I can be of help, can't wait for future episodes

[@alessios.7410]

i'm gay

[@MirekSasek]

And then there's Lvndmark. But honestly, thank you for this informative video, it will ease the pain a bit, "gid gud" on forums just doesn't help, it's great to see a successful content creator addressing this in depth, understanding how frustrating it is to be constantly at the wrong place at the wrong time, never be on the lucky side no matter how well geared, passive or cautious, getting headeyes within 30 seconds of the raid, finally obtaining that quest/expensive item and knowing you won't make it out alive. I thought I'm cursed. Literally tagged and cursed. Hard earned level 28. So thank you.

[@Era2Sunrise]

Okay wow I have to write another Comment after watching and I must say that this Episode is even better than the last one lol. Digging deeper into the materia of things could be your thing, was really well done.

[@Scragg-]

He’s a software engineer, it’s what we do

[@iRicowin]

Bruh the effort in your videos is amazing. Well done.

[@micholous]

The end clips where tarkov actually worked, were very nice treat even tho i saw most of it live :D Such amazing video.

[@hambubgerchz6048]

Such an amazing unique take on Tarkov content . Love it

[@Pre.C_King]

I am absolutely loving this video!! I don't know how many arguments I've had with fellow backers of a specific game that recently went into Alpha testing.. So many ppl started sh**ing on it instantly about how they see it as unplayable etc.. Told them time and time again that it's their expectations that was in the wrong.. Aswell as their knowledge of what Alpha Testing is supposed to accomplish..

[@Spektr357]

I greatly appreciated this video Veritas ! Well done ! :)

[@likemikeg]

great video keep it up , these type of videos really suit you

[@bdws7653]

Awesome content. I was looking forward to this vid.

[@GamingMailbox]

I am about 13 minutes in since I saw the video go live. Good work Veritas. I love this type of content

[@Era2Sunrise]

Loved the first video of the series. Really interesting take tbh.

[@fernandofigueroa8402]

You make some awesome videos man! Keep up the great work

[@TheOnlyRatDragon]

Seeing Veritas genuinely enjoying Tarkov again brought a tear to my eye. Which was promptly looted by a hatchling, but progress is progress.

[@izzmo]

Great content! Best Tarkov video in a long time!

[@DirkJ.]

GREAT work. Excellent content and production

[@r.9158]

Truly amazing Tarkov content here. I was able to watch this entire video in a single sitting with ease. Keep this kind of stuff coming Veritas! I think these kinds of videos will do wonders to temper a lot of the reactions people have from the outcomes of engagements and do a lot to help us get this game where we really want it.

[@hoorayimhelping3978]

Wow man, the cuts of other streams is really good editing work.

[@miglitu]

loved the video and effort put into it !!

[@junedasilva5719]

As a gamer who majored in political science & history, and currently finishing my last year of law school I really appreciate how intellectual this is. Not only this one, but all of your videos. I truly appreciate it. I have yet to come across another KZbinr who goes this deep into gaming. Thank you for your content!

[@johncooper5275]

I love this mixture of game analysis and human psychology. Great stuff!

[@nosoupphoyou7916]

i thought the guitar pic was so cool! you give me hope with tarkov :)

[@skilletfan932]

That usb made me feel something frustrated related. because IT ALWAYS DOES THE THING *rages*

[@KingTaliasAzzyT]

one of the best Tarkov vids! nice work!

[@charlesgotya5286]

this wipe i stopped playing to 5 months or so i know a lot of ppl was useing the packet cheat but i kept dieing on customs over and over a bunch of weird ways and ive played this game for years now and haven't stopped playing but i kept getting one tapped to the head or just died weird so much it could have been great shots i know i get them sometimes but it seems to be alot better right now thank god. i hate the strafing speed they need to make players have momentum or something great video glad to see you above 100k now

[@NavaresFR]

Really good stuff man, keep it up

[@Torrengen]

gotta love this holistic view of the world of Tarkov!

[@extremsit_ratrat3721]

I have never felt more understood and more clear minded after watching this video this shows every single detail of why I love and why I hate tarkov. Thank you please keeping making amazing videos ♥️♥️

[@anthonyparedes7423]

Your content keeps getting better and better man

[@ultimatekctv7378]

Amazing video ! I agree that the ranging on tarkov needs some work, I feel like the zeroing should automatically adjust for whatever round you have loaded into the chamber when loaded into the raid, so while you can mix and match ammo, if you have a m995 chambered, the gun would be zeroed for m995 during the raid loading phase. See that's an issue that IRL doesn't really get, from my time serving in the armed Forces, we all zeroed on ball ammo thus ammo type and velocity becomes a non-issue (tracer rounds are the same as ball in terms of ballistic performance) at 100 meters (100 yards for Americans, the default zeroing distance) and once you adjusted the radial on your sight, in my case the C79, 300 meters was indeed 300 meters because I zeroed for the proper ammunition. Obviously there were issues to zeroing, temperature being one, possibly changing the trajectory of the round but it was still indeed "accurate" unless you were a marksman or a sniper engaging at longer ranges than regular infantry. Hopefully this is fixed in the future, it would make long range engagements and sniping much more fruitful.

[@watchdarkstar1689]

The redemption at the end is fucking priceless. The feels.

[@brokentek8594]

you have an insane skillset and would probably be desirable for employment in any field honestly. you are the man veritas! keep strummin

[@rmoiii]

I hear you. I also come from a IT/software development based background. I also understand that most gamer's can be just as bad as Janet from accounting. They have unrealistic expectations, and a inability to communicate rationally because their feelings are in the way. Tarkov is really good at dragging your feelings into it no matter how much you try not to let it.

[@clamum]

Developers represent!

[@meekosaurusReX]

About to listen to this while I buff some cars at work 😂 I'm ready for him to link this to expectations in life that my parents had for me that I definitely didn't reach

[@Bozomine]

This video series is already changing my perspective on the game. Please keep making this series, as it has the potential to help players develop more respect for the game as a whole. Also, I know it takes time to produce quality content, but I want the next video today dude. GG's if we cross paths.

[@Mayuu]

Another banger Veritas. This series is great!