ETERNALS: Ego Was Created to Defeat Galactus | Marvel Theory Explained

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[@supremechadmaster2344]

Let’s collab

[@billchamberlin7772]

One thought though. I could have sworn Ego said everyone but Starlord was a failure. Ego was only successful at creating one offspring.

[@mvb84]

Great indepth analysis, much apreciated and enjoyed ! Thank you

[@007slugga9]

That’s mest up they copy this off annunaki the movie that was banned and not release. Shit crazzy

[@supremechadmaster2344]

@@007slugga9 bruvvvvvvvvv pleas I even use some of that as inspiration for the game I’m designing

[@travissullivan6575]

I sit by the theory that Ego was what happened when a Celestial failed to mature because of a lack of life on a planet, but still awoke, and ended up bonding with the planet to survive.

[@AngelsJuliene]

That sounds amazing and easy to digest 👍🏽

[@fredkelly6953]

Yeah pretty much, a celestial egg merging with the planet it was supposed to have devoured and went rogue but still with the celestial drive to seed the universe.

[@lipton3120]

@6 Wayss He created an avatar of himself

[@JohnStormForge]

@6 Wayss The humanoid Ego is really just in the MCU. In the comics Ego's core is just a smaller spherical core with his face on it, unless it has changed since I stopped reading Marvel comics

[@tiredrat2628]

I saw a theory somewhere that he was a celestial egg in a planet devoured by Galactus the planet eating guy and he was accidently not digested. It caused him to awaken prematurely. I think this is more likely but I have no clue lol

[@phillipholden6475]

I think the only reason Peter's celestial powers worked and the others didn't is because Ego received the others before they had finished their version of what we call puberty, and since Yondu kept Peter, he was allowed to fully mature which would also allow his Celestial abilities to appear whereas Ego's other Hybrid kids were probably taken around the same age as Peter, either before the Maturing process or near the beginning and since they hadn't completed it like Peter did, they never gained access to their Celestial side

[@holyromanemperor420]

What If? : Good guess, but sorry.

[@PoisonJarl71501]

MCU will definitely switch it up for the big screen and I think that’s acceptable. There were a lot of weird decisions in comics over the last few decades and the MCU wants to make it a little more feasible. I’m on board with it. They did a fantastic job with avengers

[@burtan2000]

Acceptable? It's preferred. Infinity War movie was infinitely better than the comic, IMO. The biggest change was the biggest improvment: Thanos trying to get some of that Death coochie to Lost Anti Hero powerful alien thing that goes out of his way to let the stones pick. That was elegant. Simple but deep. Not convoluted like this. Anyone could follow the general premise and anyone could understand Thanos had a vision and his goal wasn't bad. But why not double the resources? anyway, it worked. This is too complex and won't work. IMO

[@siam9914]

@@burtan2000 why not get a life

[@urabum8869]

@@siam9914 lmao

[@sha2143]

@@burtan2000 "his goal wasn't bad" said the edgy communist. Thanos' entire motivation in the MCU was literally a poly-sci major's retarded wet dream. It made no sense AT ALL. It was pandering plain and simple.

[@clarkstrange2142]

@@sha2143 no one said his plan was good. That’s who. A heavy accusation to call him a communist. If you want to make it political, Thanos’ ideology fits more of an authoritarian centrist regime and perhaps is even fascist if you believe the theory that “the snap was random” was a lie and he was culling the heard of those that would stand in his ways of being the ultimate life form, IE Doctor Strange, and Scarlett Witch- the two people who were, in his mind closest to killing him (besides Thor of course). That’s just a spitball theory so maybe not too much to worry about. But anyway, calling him a communist is a weird thing to do because Thanos’ ideology isn’t really communist, or political at all so let’s leave it out of this alright?

[@arcticwolfplays5519]

They should also include that Knull is coming as well. Erishem said it himself, before the Celestials and them creating light, the universe was a dark reflection of itself, a void. In the comics, this was a void that Knull ruled over.

[@mattnouv8089]

Remembered at the end of the venom 2, venom was gonna share the mind of symbiote hive at the end. I'm pretty sure knull will be introduce probably after Kang

[@lovedeathpizza9081]

If indeed Christian Bale is playing Gorr and they introduce the All-Black, we know where that leads.

[@zillasaiyan1m274]

Plus in the comics knull was the one that beheaded one celestial creating the planet nowhere and that place is in the mcu

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

It doesn't mean that knull "is coming" though. It's just an easter egg

[@damieneisenhower2497]

@@Red1Green2Blue3 I really want this though. Fully dive into the symbiotes and cosmic beings

[@turnerjazz7872]

Are we forgetting Ego's own explanation of his history? He didn't start out as a planet. He was a brain floating in space. Seems like he could have just been a celestial that was defeated in some kind of battle and left for dead. At some point, his brain healed enough to awaken but with his memory lost.

[@sauce8277]

Yeah it’s really about that simple. I think his emergence went wrong and all the life he needed vanished before he could grow. Everyone thought he was a dead seed and left. Poor dude.

[@Qwerty-bc6vb]

for what i know celestials came in different forms take alter ego for example which is ego's brother who looks like a planet as well.

[@jacobnash7127]

Maybe he was an almost formed Celestial who's planet was destroyed by random event. He was never born but still ready to be and healed from that state.

[@sauce8277]

@@jacobnash7127 I just said that. :( (lol I know you didn't see it)

[@jacobnash7127]

@@sauce8277 saw it but my reply was adding more to the physical state of his birth "egg." All the life dying wouldn't cause him to end up drifting in space with no planet. It would lead to a undeveloped Celestial. Whether that would just pause deployment or eventually kill the Celestial idk. The planet he was incubating in had to be destroyed to fit the entire Ego narration of his coming to exist. So I was suggesting an event had lead to a premature birth that destroyed his planet, not just the life dying.

[@TheSyncos]

My theory is that you're half right: I think Ego being created by Celestials tracks. They may have even led him to believe that he *is* a Celestial. I believe he's just another creation given greater power than the Deviants or Eternals. Honestly, it might even be that he was their FIRST creation. I don't believe that Ego sleeping around and making offspring is a new way of Celestials being born. After all, he's only creating half-breeds. I feel like the Celestials are too arrogant to consider a half-breed one of their own. *However* If the explanation of how Celestials are born tracks from Eternals, it could mean that Ego was created to have his plan succeed. The sudden burst of energy from his terraforming might have been designed to generate enough power to hatch all the Celestials at once, without Ego even knowing.

[@J-theSloth]

Moving forward until told otherwise: 1) Thanos' knew killing half was enough to starve all the unhatched celestials. 2) Ego was planted into a planet that blew up, so he 'evolved' into something different. 3) Galactus will be a Celestial for simplicity, but he will as the video stated, consume other 'clelestial egg planets'

[@NIHILWR]

For #2, so are you saying that ego was basically a premature birth of a celestial? Only the brain developed? That's why he was just a floating brain?

[@Twizzzums]

Galactus eats Babies just say it

[@_mdebeer_]

Unfortunatly galactus is not a celestial he comes from the 6th universe before the celestials created the 7th as we know it.He was infact a standard explorer that merged with the gods there at the end of the 6th iteration

[@NIHILWR]

@@_mdebeer_ yeah, but considering they are/have already changed lots of stuff from comics -> movies they might change him as well.....as long as he isn't a cloud again xD Also I hope they do at least make him big, maybe Eson level big, but maybe not Tiamut/Arishem

[@nicoblac9368]

Why does everyone want #1 to be a thing so bad,, makes zero sense and it’s pretty lame.

[@Oibble]

Is it not possible that Ego is like Agent Smith in The Matrix? An anomaly among the Celestials. That ended up deciding he didn't want to just be what the Celestials wanted him to be. And in taking over every planet in existence, he's fighting against the Celestials by removing them and stopping them from ever being born.

[@persephone8587]

I like this theory. Nice comparison

[@CloroxBleach-qy7vy]

Makes thanos plan make a whole lot more sense now seeing as in the mcu they revealed starfox makin thanos a half eternal half deviant(titan) in the mcu

[@princebealalthe2nd622]

Thanos full eternal he just had a deviant gene activated as all eternals have it’s just he’s a mutant

[@SoloSaga]

@@princebealalthe2nd622 not a mutant just has a dormant deviant gene. Full eternal. But no telling what's going on with them being mechanical

[@landshark1215]

@@SoloSaga It's possible they are organic and just built by Arishem. Or maybe the Eternals on Earth are a later model after an earlier, biological model was deemed a failure just like the Deviants. Arishem lied to all but the prime Eternal about the true nature of the Deviants and Eternals, so it's not exactly a stretch that he'd lie about that as well.

[@SoloSaga]

@@landshark1215 oh no, yeah he lied about everything probably

[@kalex504]

@@SoloSaga you are both saying the same thing - his dna mutated so he’s a mutant eternal

[@TheBaBaTV]

I always felt like Peter had more potential, like his powers can’t be gone just like that ! He’s going to end up being insanely powerful I feel !

[@SheltoniaNation]

Totally hinges on Ego being a reliable narrator. Quill may still indeed have some power. (flashes to Odin- “What are you, the god of hammers?”)

[@Gundam-Fury]

to be fair Peter was pretty much Demi-god of 'Planet' but who knows maybe he'll weild some cosmic power at some point

[@Joe_no_Ls]

Peter's powers might be like an offset of the uni-mind as he's only been able to use them in proximity to Ego

[@alexdreger1759]

@@Joe_no_Ls Maybe Sersi can help to rectify this later on?

[@amirp6604]

@@Joe_no_Ls if connected to a Celestial embodiment she didn't retain all the una mind power

[@justingoers]

This. Ego called himself a Celestial. That doesn’t mean he is a Celestial.

[@Phosfit]

Celestials should remain a RARE event. Just like getting a legendary in Clash Royale.

[@allstar729]

I like this theory a lot. I just think it’s too complex for a movie, but I can see these factors playing out similarly just in a simpler way.

[@vannareyne6336]

To be fair, its likely going to be told over the course of 10-20 movies like the infinity stones, with the last two movies just being the big fight.

[@allstar729]

@@vannareyne6336 that’s true!

[@clarkstrange2142]

I’m so on board with this theory. If something comes close to this happening I will praise screencrush and wonder if they perhaps secretly possess the time stone

[@LmaoMoni]

Maybe they could explain the background in a show like what if

[@backcross5071]

As far as i know EGO was a member of the Elders of the Universe like the Grandmaster , The Gardener, The Collector some of these member were the first keeper of the Infinity stones The Grandmaster ( Dwi Gast) had the mind stone

[@NotARobot-sc3it]

While that is true for the comics, the MCU took a lot of characters in different directions to tell a different story. Ego in the MCU states that he is a celestial and we have no reason to believe that he's lying.

[@backcross5071]

@@NotARobot-sc3it Hi , i missed that part in the movie , i trust you , its a part of these comics, like in mythology you change the story as you tell the story again and again. I was remembering what i read when i was a kid in the 80s. But what happend to the Elders family ? Since i saw at least two members in Thor and the Gardians of the galaxy movies.

[@MondoLT]

Whats about the part were the eternals want to become a uni-mind ? I tought that Ego was a Uni-Mind

[@cristianstabile3511]

Interesting theory. I would add that, to me, Asgard is another, different, "line of research" for Celestial evolution. Instead of an organic Celestial that keeps on living and impregnates other planets (i.e. Ego), the Asgardian noble bloodline carries the "Celestial Esence" that is inherited by the Asgardian Ruler when his father dies. That's why Odin's, Hela's and Thor's great power is tied to the planet Asgard, much like Peter's power is tied to the planet Ego. So the asgardian's gods are really other way of reproducing celestials, and one that does not destroy the planet they inhabit.

[@pleaseandthankyou708]

Ragnarok

[@jeetlaha9627]

In Earth X Asgardians were created by Celestials

[@YugiohMaster1987]

Yeah, in the comics, Asgardians where mutated/created by the Celestials and then later we find out the course of ALL evolution across our universe is that the 2nd to final steps of evolution is akin to either be like the Kree or Skrull and the final step is like that of the Asgardians physical/biological godhood. But I do like the theory of tying of the OP, it would actually make a LOT of sense and fill in some plot holes.

[@darrinwebber4077]

There is also the theory that Yggdrassil is itself a Celestial. With it's own cosmic agenda.

[@shadoworldsgamma]

Not really in the mood to check all comments to see if this is said but, Ego won't be the only exception; Knowhere is on the MCU referred as "the severed head of a Celestial" and the first time i'ts shown to us, the dialogue says something like "they extract spinal fluid as well as gray matter from it", so Knowhere would be also an organic Celestial (remains).

[@veganphoodie]

I mean... I see where you are going with this, however Galactus has also been known to feed not just on planets but other OP cosmic and magical beings, so a Celestial brain floating through the cosmos may easily be something worth devouring when the great hunger is upon him.

[@LeftHandedRightHanded]

Also people need to realize that Galactus consumes energy not physically consume planets. When he was in the Dark Dimension he was taking magical energy from beings which allowed him to jump from smaller demons all the way up to Dormammu. And in the outer universe he would consume celestial energy stored within planets. Galactus is really misunderstood as just a cosmic destroyer, but he way more complex

[@TheAlexcassun]

Galactus hasn't been introduced to the MCU yet, there's no reason to expect they'll stick to the comics.

[@leshawn.d.1805]

@@TheAlexcassun They'll likely try to stay close as the Celestials being birthed from planets was used in the comics as well.

[@morrgorrgames566]

There's a Fantastic 4 series on Disney+. In that series is an episode where Galactus and Ego battle. Galactus wins that battle because the Fantastic help him. So Ego can take on Galactus.

[@veganphoodie]

@@morrgorrgames566 Yes I remember that episode. Thor I believe was also in that episode

[@jim_again2245]

I used to run a movie rental shop back in the day and the vibe on your set is nostalgic to say the least

[@jaeusa160]

Do you know who else is a half-Celestial demigod? Mephisto.

[@BotBehavior]

Don’t tell New Rockstars that lol

[@afro_princess1671]

Mephisto is a demon.

[@nottodaynotthe1]

It's all connected- Paul, Heavy Spoilers

[@lt920]

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[@TheTrueMorse64]

“Not the bees!!!!! Ahhhhh!!!!”

[@mcgigglefits9864]

The only problem would be Galactus may just figure things out and eventually just go after brains.

[@maxblonde]

You are assuming that Ego was telling the truth, and not claiming godhood in order to help win Peter over. Or that he even knows WHAT he is, and just claims he is a celestial to be a part of something, to avoid loneliness.

[@chrisjuckett2728]

This is a good point, but considering how little Ego thought of the GotG, Star lord included, I'm not sure he would have found it necessary to lie to them on this particular issue.

[@gihon3288]

In the What If series, doesn’t Uatu the Watcher refer to Ego as a celestial?

[@superevolvedshinamalgamleo8168]

@@gihon3288 i think he doesnt know what he is he says he is celestial to not get lonely

[@gihon3288]

@@superevolvedshinamalgamleo8168 You mean to tell me that Uatu, a member of an omniscient multidimensional race, doesn’t know what Ego is and just calls Ego a Celestial because Uatu was lonely?

[@superevolvedshinamalgamleo8168]

@@gihon3288 i mean ego was lonely so he calls himself celestial so uatu calls him celestial

[@sunwukongmonkeyking5561]

17:08 They introduced Galactus in Fantastic Four with Sliver Suffer.

[@rineenerdad1774]

I don't care what you guys in the comments say, I like Ryan's breakdowns and deep dives... and nametags

[@frankphillips5884]

Good god you linked up the Death Star Death plan, clip/killing ego clip FLAWLESSLY 🤩

[@dishmurphy6539]

Did Star Lard really lose his “ego-ness” when Ego’s brain was killed? Most of the 2nd 1/2 of this video blew far over my head and I’ll have to watch it a few more times. Could Galactus have any interest in Peter Quill? Don’t laugh. I know it’s probably a silly question. I’m not a comic reader. ✌️💚

[@monty6491]

James Gunn has confirmed it on twitter

[@FutureMan420Blazer]

@@monty6491 that he lost his powers for good?

[@byronrush9802]

@@FutureMan420Blazer that sucks

[@tradersendeavors]

@@monty6491 thank goodness

[@YTEdy]

The movie certainly implied that. Ego offered him power and immortality and he turned it down.

[@RegularRegs]

Given the size of this channel, I really hope either Kevin Feige or the Marvel writing teams are aware of it and ponder all these questions. You guys have a lot of good ideas.

[@trippytimesjosh355]

Fuck the negative reviews. I've seen it twice in Imax. This film was a beautiful piece of art. Also maybe ego is what Celestial looks like outside of armor

[@leshawn.d.1805]

It wasn't bad, but it was middle of the road for me. Just popcorn fluff that likely didn't matter overall beyond introducing Celestials into the mix.

[@MammothMorals]

The planet was his armour

[@drewfoster6138]

Iccarus literally went and flew into the sun because fuck half decent story writing (they used the Iccarus line earlier on in the movie too) , the deviants weren't even a challenge, the entire show revolved around pc-ness to get it by instead of it standing on its own 2 legs since they knew it was a failure. It was literally clickbait as a movie.

[@EobardTron]

I like your Galactus Endgame Arc. It's pretty existential, they'd have to make it super simple, but I like it. And bring the Fantastic Four in of course

[@elisandroku]

Whenever I watch your theory videos, I find myself thinking that they're actually foreshadowing of future movies.

[@kittybrowneye3163]

And then you remember disney is absolutely infested with ideology and creativity went out the window with phase 3

[@thomaswaller1943]

So without Ego the only hope in defeating Galactus is introducing the Fantastic 4?

[@sertandoom4693]

Or Squirrel Girl

[@TheKPhillip]

What Ego does isn’t that different from what the Celestials themselves do. But given his failure rate (Peter’s the only success), he likely wasn’t that big of a threat to the Celestials. But more likely - as with the Mandarin - Ego simply considered himself one of the Celestials for lack of a better comparison.

[@GabrielSouza-ie1tt]

It isn't different, but it is quicker. A normal Celestial seed would take thousands of years to be born, but in the case of Ego it just took about 30 years or so.

[@casuallyimmortal1595]

I read somewhere up there that Ego was a celestial that failed to mature due to lack of life on the planet and hence bonded with the planet to survive..and evolved into something else

[@nicoblac9368]

What Ego does is very very different than the Celestials.

[@HavendaleBlvd80]

2:32 absolutely gold.

[@andrewbeecroft6509]

I'm not convinced that ego even is a celestial. I think it's just as likely he heard the term and assumed he was one.

[@shelovescas2490]

i believe he’s a celestial “being” like galactus, celestial in the mcu is kinda an umbrella term for beings like that

[@nicoblac9368]

@@shelovescas2490 No. Celestials are a race, not an umbrella term.

[@shelovescas2490]

@@nicoblac9368 celestials are a race in the mcu yes, but being a celestial is not, he can fully be a celestial being without being a celestial

[@ChrisParayno]

He's not

[@LmaoMoni]

Hmmm if celestial are creators than ego is their parasite

[@lovedeathpizza9081]

Galactus will be teased in a mid or end credits scene, most likely in Thor, Guardians, Adam Warlock, or Doctor Strange but won’t really come to the forefront until Fantastic Four (and Doctor Doom) are introduced first.

[@zuyrais]

what if Galactus is a Celestial that against Arishem, and Eros is herald of Galactus, maybe the orb is a sign that someone is a herald, so that means Ajak is herald of Arishem to find planet that bear Celestial Seeds

[@channelZER01]

That's not how galactus works necessarily. & also to say that an eternal is a Harold is to much dip on an already stuffed chip.

[@Pogol13]

They better not make Galactus a Celestial. He is truly unique in all of comics and should remain as such in the MCU.

[@zuyrais]

@@channelZER01 i know how Galactus works, but hey again it's not comic, it's mcu-m so they need to fit the storyline with the character

[@zuyrais]

@@Pogol13 yeah hope so, i want Galactus to be interdimensional being and more powerful than anything we see, more than Infinity Ultron... well technically Arishem also is interdimensional being bcs Arishem came before the Universe

[@musadiq_rd13]

my respect for thanos is increasing day by day

[@silversurfer8818]

In the heroes reborn saga, Ashema the listener revealed her true self - as an energy being, the armor is just the shell.

[@supremechadmaster2344]

Say wattttttttttt now

[@publicfreakoutcringe1918]

And about Galactus, we'll probabely see him first in another universe where he would have already visited or something, or see him devour planets in other galaxies on the travels of Thor, Guardians, Eternals, Captain Marvel, etc...

[@scottmahoney1230]

Loved ego as a branch of the celestial and leading the way to galactus

[@baratacom]

I'm fine with the theory, although considering what happened with the deviants AND the eternals, I'd say that yes, the Celestials are that dumb, likely because they have literally all of the time in the universe, so they don't see failures as significant issues in their masterplan, failures are just new data, much like the eternal's boss guy pretty much said so at the end of the movie

[@johnruckman2320]

How was Thanos able to effect Starlord with the snap if he was part celestial? Then there is the question of Thanos vs Galctus? Did MCU bite off more than they could chew? How did Thanos basically end up as an outcast? How are the Externals mixed up in this mess?

[@artpena72]

the first question is easy, Starlord stopped being a celestial when Ego died, it's mentioned in the GoG2 movie

[@kindfulhumanity]

John you basically haven’t watched any of the mcu movies beyond a 5 year olds knowledge

[@johnruckman2320]

@@artpena72, un that appears to be a conundrum(?) Ego wasn't exactly teaching Starlord correctly, only as it directly benefited Ego. During the fight Starlord only briefly tapped his celestial powers , Ego effected his confidence. Since celestial couldn't procreate directly they planted their seed in planets which would be consumed when they matured. Big catch 22. Ego was created to change that but it appears that they didn't teach him anything, just left him to his own devices. If Celestials were experimenting with human procreation it stands to reason that the offspring of Ego wouldn't lose their abilities just because the parent died. That would defeat the original purpose of genetically creating Ego. So it appears that Ego lied to Starlord.

[@drunkbrick]

@@johnruckman2320 James Gunn literally came out and said Quills powers are gone after the events of gotg2

[@ExtinctGaming06]

@@johnruckman2320 as suggested by the video. Ego could be a way to infect the celestial seeded planets and change the celestials into both organic versions and hide fr9m galactus. And peter quill is only half celestial if even that. It would make sense for him to lose his power at the death of his father just like how arishem the celestial can control the eternals

[@post-centrist666]

Ego is the 7th Infinity Stone (The 7th Infinity Stone is literally called the Ego Gem, it was shot into the Ultraverse while the other 6 Infinity Stones were shot into our Universe).

[@jeffparker5766]

This makes sense. I've long thought Ego seemed angry at the celestials. The Frankenstein's monster of the celestials.

[@themandarin8289]

This means that Mantis is also half celestial since she’s peter quills half sister and ego’s daughter

[@joshhoehne8281]

Lol, I swear I heard Ryan ask if we were “gay or nay” about this theory. Hilarious!

[@livewirejay4008]

I heard it too LOL

[@petergohan]

i thought i was the only one, hahahahahahaa

[@PTRMAN]

Heard it also. Went back and turned on closed captioning and there it was... "gay or nay"...

[@luisgamez7207]

Same…!!!!

[@mitchliam974]

Lol yup he said it

[@rayraygoreng6264]

What if ego was designed to accelerate the growth of hybernating celestials? With Ego taking over inhabited planets, perhaps it would provide the necessary cosmic energy to awaken sleeping celestials. Galactus found out about this and beheaded Ego. But, Ego was unique in his ability to regenerate. He floated around w/o his memories, but with an instinctual desire to carry out his purpose.

[@CaseyLau]

THIS is why I loved Eternals! The layers on layers! If all this comes to pass ETERNALS will be the best post-Endgame MCU movie.

[@kittybrowneye3163]

Your in a vast minority there

[@CaseyLau]

​@@kittybrowneye3163 Ok maybe not the best but I think people will grow a new appreciation of it when some of these ideas come to light. Also it's: "you're"

[@renoyapici]

tbh i think it was not a good movie at all. Not only the story, but also how they filmed it and if you compare it to inifinity war or endgame, it is miles behind (thanks to Chloé Zhao?)

[@CaseyLau]

@@renoyapici Nothing can beat Endgame., I agree. But I enjoyed Eternals for the ideas. I can't argue with so many negative reviews from fans and critics. But I enjoyed it for what it is. If you want me to rank it amongst other MCU films, yeah its low, but I like to think of it as its own thing. Just like how Jack Kirby never wanted to integrate the comic into the Marvel Universe. I guess I liked it more for the ideas and what it sets up than the actual movie. But I wouldn't say it was worse than Thor 2.

[@diegoalba2002]

@@CaseyLau infinity war was better than end game change my mind

[@tomatodiary147]

The skulls of Ego's children was also found inside him, I dont think Quill being inside Ego is the reason why he survived Ego's experiment

[@socraticmethod-man9808]

They will wait to return to Tiamat and him walking up till the X-men are established so they can use Kitty Pride to phase him out of the planet. All the while a fistfight between Galactus and Arishem the judge goes on in the background, and once Tiamat is out Galactus can no longer feed.

[@makaylahswain8517]

U comments this somewhere before

[@averyjenson]

you’re calling it so well that honestly this should be marked with spoilers LOL

[@min_ny721]

7:05 Yup nothing goes wrong I love how everyone knows what a celestial is but no one cares about them and just stops them or delay the emegergence

[@thelostpawn]

Idk if I’m more excited about new Marvel movies or the Screen Crush videos that follow

[@squigglypeterson7157]

10:03 the intelligence that went "behind" that quick cut joke is why I believe there is hope for humanity

[@senselessbabbledotcom]

I recall not being a fan of Earth X (and it's sequels), but now I feel the need to reread them and give them a second chance. Thanks Ryan!

[@PatronusOpacus]

I always describe Ego as a Psuedo-Celestial. Either a half/half or a lesser being but still in that god tier.

[@mark-bp9og]

Can't wait for the fantastic four movie and to see Galactus in the mcu

[@OnurTheXbot]

“Inside his dad?” I would like to see that

[@ScreenCrush]

Who else could be a celestial demigod?

[@efoildelights4662]

Starlord. Who?

[@uvindukulathunga3860]

Where from Odin got his power then Power that can cast worthyness spells Doc Strange geta the power from other dimension but Odins powers has no explaination

[@omiyohossain8951]

perhaps dormammu. the dark dimension could be some type of pocket dimension like the one strange supreme created to trap zola and killmonger.

[@zackwoods6818]

Paul rudd

[@uvindukulathunga3860]

@@omiyohossain8951 No Doramamu is out of this universe in a place where laws of physics in this universe doeant work Dark Dimension said to have no time Our dimension has a way of its time work so it branches into multiple realities or time linea or universes Other dimensions are Dark dimension Quantum realm End of time (kangs castle) TVA Cellestials even has varients as they are universal level Doramamu ,Kang are multiversal level

[@ninjamania]

I want to see the Phoenix brought in as well.

[@TheAlexcassun]

I really like this theory. I would love to see one version of Kang team up with the Avengers to step into a battle of Celestials vs Galactus. Also, this theory makes me really interested in seeing how Gorr the God Butcher is used. It feels like he'd be on Team Galactus.

[@Kyncayde1]

If you go by the comics, Ego isn't a celestial, he's one of the elders of the universe

[@MonkeyJeebus]

Ego might originally be the decapitated Celestial that is now Knowhere.

[@nateericsson347]

i concur... knowhere holds life, like a planet. among other reasons why im convinced of this.

[@Jon-6969]

Nice. The remaining brain of a celestial slain by galactus.

[@MonkeyJeebus]

@@Jon-6969 probably Gorr The God Butcher upcoming in Thor a retcon to Knull the creator of the sword. With Venom in the MCU it could go that direction.

[@neil7204]

I like the thought of Galactus being introduced as the devourer specifically of Celestial-seeded worlds. And I can buy the theory that Ego was an experimental step in the Celestials' evolution, enacted as an answer to Galactus. I actually think that would sync well in line with the lowkey running theme the Guardians films have explored regarding the pitfalls of forced evolution (1. Rocket as the most scared of all within the group (according to his counterpart, Yondu) because he's been engineered into a new, uncertain state of personhood by way of what experimentation was done to him, 2. Peter turning down the choice to receive cosmic insight and bond with the light in full because doing so would've only deprived him of the greater connection to those he loved - a connection with which he identifies on a very human, non-godly level, 3. the impending trouble wrought by the inevitably premature development of Adam, set to appear in the third film). The part I have an issue reconciling is the theory that Ego was actually unwittingly doing the Celestials' bidding by "double-seeding" their planets of choice. It just feels clunky. Like there are too many overlapping variables that need to line up in a row to make the same buns come out of the same ovens. I get the sense Ego will be explained as an intentional creation exactly as posited in this video, but then that's when I think random chance takes over, as it often does in actual evolution. I think somehow, someway, Ego was abandoned by the Celestials after being deemed insufficient as a viable "next step" for them. I imagine they would've been disinclined to kill a being which is technically one of their own. So in classic Celestial grand-scale-calculus fashion, they decided it wasn't worth it to nurture a perceived failure but also opted to let him live and make his own way (continuing, though not quite mirroring, the inadvertent orphan theme shared with his son). But perhaps they didn't anticipate his evolving the ability to seed other planets via organic extensions of himself, just as they did not anticipate the evolution of their own deviants. So Ego goes off the rails, showing up on thousands of planets and doing the only thing life has taught him to do thus far: create more life. I think his ends ran oppositional to the Celestials' plan, though. And I think Quill and Co. taking out Ego was actually doing Arishem a favor. Just a guess though.

[@woll3Y]

While classic storytelling frames good vs. evil, I think the MCU has done a good job framing a struggle between order vs. chaos. With a few evil henchmen thrown in to keep it interesting to all audiences. Greco-Roman mythology covered the order/chaos subject before human knowledge developed to a point where we didn't need gods to explain the unexplainable. Galactus as Top Predator maintains order by preying on Celestials to ensure life doesn't overrun the universe and gobble up all the resources. @screencrush has a theory that Ego creates camouflage that hides Celestial embryos from getting eaten, in keeping with the predator/prey relationship there. If the universe is in balance like an ecosystem, then Galactus eats just the right amount of Celestials to keep the universe from overpopulating, while Celestials need to constantly innovate to make sure Galactus goes hungry and life continues. Galactus would, therefore, also need to evolve to survive. Balance is the delicate Order in which life thrives, but if either side gains too much advantage for long enough, then the imbalance will be irreversible, and Chaos results. With the introduction of the multiverse and time travel, MCU writers in the next phase should consider Galactus as a traveler between universes (extra-universal?) and needs to come to ours because the Celestials have begun toying with timelines and multiverse conflicts here in a way (peaceful or otherwise) that threatens the balance that has existed for billions of years. Only the Avengers would have the intelligence, strength, and spirit to restore balance in a way that preserves our planet, or this time our whole universe.

[@RakkaRakkaRecords]

Check out the song about Galactus by Johnny Void, "The Hunger". Awesome tune!

[@shannelowe183]

This was great, and I think an accurate thought to future events for the MCU.

[@Khail707]

James Gunn is gonna love this

[@bradfoster7771]

I have a theory that Ego at one point was "Nowhere" I think that the celestial that Null decapitated is Nowhere. Nowhere dies, in turn Ego was born. This makes since seeing as ego "started" as a brain in the cosmos. it still doesn't account for the loss of memory that ego would've had to endure from a premature celestial death

[@wj3186]

Drax is so common sense. I love it.

[@archangel5627]

I really love this theory about Ego and how he’s just another Celestial experiment that could very well be a total success in the expansion of their Godly race. Transforming the current metallic and bio-mechanical Celestial race into organic bodies that can procreate with living organisms like Ego, than he also have to explain the other side of their race. Meaning, what about the other Celestials!? The Aspirants. They were the first group of Celestials that Did Not Rebel against the First Firmament who created both races of Celestials. The second group of Celestials are the multicolored armored looking ones we saw in the Eternals movie who created the Eternals and Deviants as well as manipulating the human race. If Marvel Studios is going to introduce the multicolored Celestials which we saw in the Eternals movie, than we’re more than likely going to have to see the Aspirant’s if they’re going to truly expand the Cosmic side of the MCU. Introducing the Aspirants will really help in diving into the entire creation of the known universe within the MCU proper.

[@ShaylaTheMouse]

Absolutely love this theory! Thanks for all your efforts btw!

[@DavonDepp]

Since the MCU already gave us Ego, we have an east in to dive into Galactus. Him being from a technologically advanced planet, much like Ego, he was different in that in his planet being destroyed, he wound up driving and becoming a Celestial himself, but transformed into the world eater and enemy of the celestials. I say the next Eternals dives more into that that a continuation of the path they were headed. Galactus and silver surfer could actually shift that entire franchise around for the better.

[@ronaldulysseswizards1161]

Dude, this is great. It makes sense and just feels like a good development of the story. Ego saying he's a Celestial while not resembling what we understand to be Celestials confused me, but I have genuinely just brushed it off as an inconsistency that should have been caught. But I am often clueless while Marvel is often brilliant. Your theory is quite brilliant too. So it made me start wondering about things I'd left completely unconsidered until now. Thank you for the inspiration! [And so I wrote a book...] So Ego started alone and lonely, then "wanted to experience what it truly meant to be human," which led to disappointment, which led to the desire "to fulfill life's one true purpose; to grow and spread, covering all that exists until everything is" him..... so that what, he can feel accomplished but ultimately lonely again??? Though I will say that would be poetically fitting for a character designed to reflect self-importance, ambition, and conquest; it's a flawed purpose considering what he expressed was loneliness and desire to escape it. So... What if Ego's Expansion wouldn't nullify an emergence, but instead it would effectively boost the sentience of each planet immediately to a Celestial emergence? So maybe Ego was designed by Celestials to do precisely what he did, to spread and seed all planets populated by sentient life, but like an Eternal, he was created without knowledge of the deeper truth in his design; that he was designed by Celestials to complete a task, nothing more. Like the Eternals have the purpose of protecting/guiding life so that it can flourish...only to let it die in a Celestial emergence. All their work is wiped away for the deeper purpose. So the "unceasing impulse to find life" within Ego was part of their design. And upon fulfilling his mission and completing The Expansion, every Celestial seed would hatch in unison so then Celestials would overwhelm Galactus and all existence. So maybe Ego was designed to turbo-incubate the seeds of Celestials into a mass hatching. So then Ego's Expansion would still be in-line with the will and design of the Celestials. ON THE OTHER HAND... I started thinking, how did Ego just become a brain that perceives himself as a Celestial? I know this is crazy, but what if Ego is the disembodied brain of a Celestial that somehow rebooted / regained consciousness? And that's why he has the impulse to spread his seed to every planet... because it's the same programming running in his brain to do what Celestials do; but he's doing it unknowingly because he's disconnected from his body/soul and therefore disconnected from some Celestial collective consciousness / mothership / hivemind / clique / discord / whatever because well...he's dealing with some head trauma. Like, what if Knowhere was Ego's Celestial head? Like, I know that somewhere in comics, Knull decapitates a Celestial with the All-Black. And Knull took the body and soul of the Celestial to the Realm Between. And I know he left the head behind and it became the mining station, Knowhere. And I know _some_ brain tissues were mined from Knowhere, but I don't know that the _entire_ brain was there or not. So then I found myself wondering, could a Celestial eject its own brain for self-preservation? Or did Knull just yeet the brain? Listen, I know this is crazy... I'm about 99.999% sure that Ego has nothing to do with Knowhere, but I can't stop thinking about this now; I love it. I especially love your theory of Ego being the next evolution of Celestial. It reminds me of the way Skynet would upgrade its Terminators in revolutionary ways to stay ahead. Really cool stuff. You craft such great theories, Ryan. Thank you. And thanks to anyone who read this pile. You get a big heart. 💜

[@supremechadmaster2344]

The bigger question is how da he’ll would a celestial have a brain if their quasi energy beings

[@DavidSchultz-n9l]

Marvel needs to hire this guy

[@davidbrunelle4740]

I love this. Please write for the MCU

[@brandonjames3860]

Idk I think ego's plan is in his name, and I think his plan to seed and shape the cosmos in his image was to use seeds like tiamut as a cosmic battery, once ego absorbs the planet essentially absorbing tiamut and other unbirthed celestials making ego the strongest and all powerful to finally create a universe in his own image.

[@neilmartinoconnor]

I'll come back and watch this once I've seen Eternals... love your content dude!

[@chadjespersen8780]

Personal theory: Ego is the balance to the Eternals. Throughout MCU we see agents of balance. While Galactis is feeding off the Eternals seed or straight up taking them in battle, he has no way of reproducing. This means that the balance could be thrown off if/when he is killed. That necessitates Ego. A force that can destroy to the Eternals while not in direct battle as his power is tied to his source. Assuming part of what he stated is true, blowing up the planet only freed his consciousness from the confines of a rocky planet and he is now again drifting along until he reconstitutes himself in another planet form. Peter on the other hand is the evolution of Ego. He is not tethered to the source planet as Ego is. He is able to stay away without dying. This could mean that his powers, while not equal to Ego's may be more able to feed off other sources.

[@elijahschaffer3684]

Perhaps Thanos' real plan was to not only take half the life in the universe but also half the celestials to preserve the universe.

[@robertmcgormley3446]

I have this feeling that Celestials can’t be affected by the stones. It’s possible that they created the stones. Even if Wong states otherwise.

[@Forsakenguard]

I think this is exactly what the MCU needs

[@lochanm3557]

I guess Galactus will be introduced in Secret wars, just like Thanos was introduced to the MCU

[@WeAsOneRise]

Its crazy how deep the marvel lore is man this is why i love marvel.

[@rajon08champs]

This theory isn’t a good one.. I’m leaning on the idea that Ego lied about being a celestial… In the comics he’s given people powers and boosts like the silver surfer in silver surfer black. The surfer alone could annihilate a planet which is only a tiny portion of the power cosmic. There’s no way in hell Ego could keep up with the likes of galactus let alone the surfer in power. Multiple Celestials could possibly slow down galactus but a well fed galactus is damn near unstoppable and realistically has to either be led to another planet to consume or gets threatened by the ultimate nullifier (which is an extension of galactus’ full power) which Reed Richards wiped out an entire universe with. So no ego has no place among characters who would pose a threat to Galactus.

[@leshawn.d.1805]

In the comics I believe Galactus tried to eat Ego and they fought.

[@onecingulardude06]

come on ultimate nullifier! I love A good MCU researcher!

[@prynzx]

wild random theory here... What is Ego is Nowhere's brain? What if it fell out when Nowhere got decapitated? Or ejected to preserve his, but he lost his memory in the process.

[@colinjason672]

Now this is smth I'm interested in

[@Jacen32272]

... Just imagine if Galactus can feed on Tiamut's seed through the marble shell left behind, and not destroy Earth in the process. This, I suspect, would be best case for Earth.

[@SpicyMelonYT]

I really don't care if there are holes in this Theory, I really want to see this made into the MCU. It would be so cool cause they can make it soooooo damn good

[@Phosfit]

Ego was a creation by Arishem but his Ego was so big, he called himself a Celestial. Similar to Elon Musk having paypal and tesla sign a contract that requires them to refer to him as a founder.

[@RanRat717]

Your explanation REALLY makes sense.

[@The_Cyber_System]

I stand by the best segment of this video being the sponsor spot 👏 Outstanding entertainment

[@Brakdayton]

Man, I wish your theories were the thing. They sound amazing.

[@emperordavid2044]

At least you are the only KZbinr with the will to talk about it

[@thebeyonder8814]

Vibranium meteor being tiamut seed makes sooo much sense dude.

[@VGAstudent]

A Multiverse of finite universes makes for an interesting story, especially if they merge into an infinite universe at the end with varied life instead of various outcomes and possibilities.

[@smalltechnology4353]

Now what do you think will The Watcher do when this war play out (What If...) And do you think Galactus knows about the Watcher

[@noahzhellos8344]

Revisiting this video after a long while, and I have a question about this theory. If the Celestials could have just popped up to stop someone like Ego from destroying their plan, what about the other universe shown in What If...? where Ultron just obliterates everything? Is that a universe that just didn't have Celestials to stop him? Were they just too slow to get to earth in time before he grew too powerful? What about the potential repercussions that Infinity Ultron would have caused for Galactus?

[@leroysanders3564]

So... Peter Quillin and Ikaris is stronger than Superman? Because he (Superman) isn't mentioned at all🤔

[@Cheffrey_Dahmers]

I cant wait for gaurdians 3. I really hope peter gets his powers back. Hes my favorite at the moment.

[@johnnyjay6959]

One thing I’ve learned about watching videos like this is that the ideas and theories of KZbinrs is usually better then Disney’s. Lol

[@dustinpoor2286]

I know most people didn't like the Eternals movie....I actually did... an I really hope they make the 2nd movie...I think they could use the movie to start building the background for galactic.... I mean we have a gaping hole into infinity still for anyone to come... have a living embodiment out with Thor... an hell Thor doesn't even have the slitest clue how dam powerful he really is... an that has nothing to even do with stormbreaker ... that would be amazing 👏 !!

[@joshuawilliams8921]

Thought provoking question, if not brought up already, Was the Celestial’s creating life to try to perfect the process before creating Ego.

[@MrKago1]

Ego is what is referred to by physicists as a Boltzman brain. its a thought experiment about quantum fluctuations and probability that helps put infinity into perspective.