EU and Mercosur seal free trade agreement | DW News

[@bobtuiliga8691]

Argentinian beef is some of the best in the world. If the French export their beef to Argentina they will be lowering the standards there 🤣

[@avidacomumlaamais]

Even worst, they'll exporting their cars and that's a low bar here (every Brazilian-Pegeout has a nightmare drive this 💩). The deal is better for Europeans than Mercosul partners

[@zeritho6073]

I have never understood why the farmers should decide so much. They are literally big capital owners why should they be treated special?

[@chris6ix.]

@@zeritho6073 Because they are some of the most important people in a country. They are literally the ones that feed you. That's why they have to be treated well.

[@elnonoo591]

Three-quarters of the remaining cattle are produced in American-style feedlots. A proportion that could increase in the coming years. In 20 years, 15,000 feedlots have been created in Argentina to free up space for crops. Feedlots where animals are kept in more than questionable sanitary conditions and sometimes doped with growth hormones, even if their use is officially prohibited "Argentinian beef is some of the best of the world" 🤔

[@bobtuiliga8691]

@@elnonoo591 Have you tasted French beef?

[@netopierro10]

Some regions in Brazil have 3 harvests a year... you can't compete with that, there is no winter, no snow, the soil doesnt need to rest and the climate is perfect... Just like south america can't compete with germany cars, for example, European agriculture cant compete with south america... French farmers have to especialize in Wine and Cheese that they are great at, but fruits, meat, soy, corn and ect they have no chance...

[@agabopereira6175]

Exactly!

[@Erik14703]

Europe can't even compete on a fking agriculture now. LMAO😂

[@Erik14703]

@@Honkler270 You just described Israel's condition in terms of feasibility to use its land for agriculture and guess what? They're among the most productive country to export agricultural products and technology. I don't see anythin from your comment but an execuse. Anyway, my point is Europe as, what they regularly claimed, a great continent can't compete with america, china or other asian nations in terms of advanced technology to the point that they can't even compete on low value industries such as agriculture, it's a sad reality of an old dying continent and it's not going to be easy to cure them as some of the people in EU parliament like Mario Draghi proposed in order to save the european idustry because some of the people there are just produce nothing but excuses.

[@Honkler270]

@Erik14703 pretty sure europe exports these goods too, they just can't compete with the quantity and price of south america, only on some more refined items like cheeses and wines, though they do win out on pork, I don't get the argument about Israel, Europe produces enough for itself already. On the dying continent thing, don't worry the rest of the world is catching up to the dying, give it a couple decades and all will be even.

[@fnordinvitation]

​@@Honkler270not really. Europe has great farming land. Ukraine has one of the 3 best soils in the world. But also does Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina.

[@Anirossa]

I can see why Germany is interested in this deal, especially with how Volkswagen is doing

[@icephoenix5466]

Its more about getting the Deal done when tarifs Hit.

[@benjaminlamey3591]

do you think the argentinian farmer can afford the expensive premium car built by VW ? the germans can't with their higher salaries, no chance the exploited masses in south america can.

[@Anirossa]

@benjaminlamey3591 I was thinking more of some of the bigger cities in Brazil, the masses would not be buying them, but there are people who could with how massive South America is, but does make sense they would prefer cars from Mexico, China or even Japan over a Volkswagen. I live close to Germany and I would buy pretty much anything else before a VW, only brand I'd take VW over I can think of, is BYD. 😅

[@benjaminlamey3591]

@@Anirossa it IS not about the brand, but about the Price and the stratégic positioning. German cars are not for people with average wage.

[@Anirossa]

@@benjaminlamey3591 No, if VW was sold in Brazil they would not be for normal people. However, Volkswagen is hardly for "normal people" anymore. It's quite literally how they market themselves, but that doesn't make it true.

[@JG-xi4tu]

As a german, I like the EU. Germany had to bow when it came to EV tariffs, now France has to bow for this deal. And in the end, it was a positive net sum for all 👍

[@maximusasauluk7359]

That's literally the summary of the entire thing lmao

[@xFurashux]

@@JG-xi4tu but mostly for your German companies. Also Ursula went to Uruguay when the French government collapsed to use the opportunity against them.

[@JG-xi4tu]

@@xFurashux Many european companies will profit from this. Also STM or Renault, to give you some french examples.

[@xFurashux]

@@JG-xi4tu this deal will be the most beneficial for automotive, chemical and pharma markets and many German companies are at the top in those markets. Germany will benefit the most by far. Just because others may get some, doesn't make it fair, especially that France is the second power in the EU. What about others? All EU countries have farmers, only few produce cars.

[@JG-xi4tu]

@xFurashux So isn't this... exactly what I said? Germany is the first power in europe, but they too had to agree to the EV-tariffs that were bad for them, because all others wanted them. Now France has to accept this deal. Both deals are good for a *different* majority of countries in the EU (hence why they get the 65% yes-votes) while having negative impacts for some. But overlayed with each other they form a positive net sum. Which is great.

[@zeritho6073]

Great succes for EU. We get cheaper food, cheaper raw materials and EU sell more high tech products l to Mercosur. Nearly all win in both EU and Mercosur.

[@xena2559]

Blind

[@jimmytimmy3680]

Anything the EU exports SA can get 10x cheaper and better quality from China than the EU.😂

[@evertonmv1217]

@@jimmytimmy3680 Cheaper I agree. But better quality it's a different story... Chinese "quality" is known world wide.

[@jimmytimmy3680]

@@evertonmv1217 You are still stuck on the 90s. You will get whiplash

[@borysrak5274]

Nie wszyscy zyskują a tylko Niemcy i Francja dlatego Niemiecka przewodnicząca przeciska wbrew woli innych państw. Bo niemcy na tym zarobią bo niemają gdzie swego dziadoatwa sprzedać. Ta pani za to powinna zostać odsunieta od stołka i skazana zareprezentowanie tylko inyeresów Niemie. Unia europejska staje sie za rządów lewactwa i tej niemki, dyktaturą a nie demokracją. A każda dyktatura ma swój koniec. Ten parszywy niemiecki rząd zawsze tworzył tragedje w europie. Rospętał dwie wojny światowe miliony ludzi przez tą niemiecką nacje straciło życie. I to sie działo od tysiaca lat, mordowali grabili i nigdy ten parszywy naród za to nie odpowiedział biliony euro wiszą do tej pory za zniszczenie Polski i wymordowanie 6 milionów Polaków. I ta arogancja tego narodu sięga do obecnych czasów. Nieliczenie się z nikim i zniczym. Ludzie opamietajcie się i pokaźcie temu narodowi gdzie powinno być ich miejsce. Bo jak się nie obudzicie to ten naród doprowadzi do kolejnej wojny😢😢😢

[@manu3l246]

Farms of Europe can't compete with the Pampas of Argentina.

[@koba1980]

The French are crying because it's not the same thing as plundering AFRICA....they will have to pay for Latin American products.😆

[@sabrinarodrigues629]

No. France is a benevolent power in Africa.

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

Exctly. France only considers good business if they are exploiting people. In Germany we are thrilled about this deal.

[@Ganymede559]

@@sabrinarodrigues629 Said no one ever.

[@caiomansk-edwards1069]

@@sabrinarodrigues629 kkkkkkkkkkkkkk é sério? Nem vc acredita nisso lkkkkkk

[@charlessmyth]

Between the EU and China, this helps to expand the region's options It also helps to enlarge the market for Euros, which will slow down Euro inflation.

[@OriginalHDMI]

exactly , farmers think only for their business and not big picture. EU needs to enlarge their market borders with everyone that can be seen as an ally.

[@Ganymede559]

It'll collapse the EU because the EU is too big and cumbersome. Too much economic weight, so to speak.

[@mikewazowski7024]

lmao what

[@ulliburwood4706]

Give me an Argentinien steak any time

[@xena2559]

Blind

[@edbenti5007]

Maybe you could walk over the homeless in Buenos Aires to get one of those juicy steaks… Poverty rate is now about 60% in Argentina thanks to Milei’s Austrian School economic insanity.

[@wbroderick3237]

​ it's hard to fix the country in just for years

[@Joey-ct8bm]

They are extra cheap too now since their currency has fallen to nothing.

[@nadie8093]

​@@edbenti5007 because poverty wasnt an issue under Kirchnerist Argentina?

[@Ianopike]

As a European who lived in Uruguay for a little while, I’m looking forward to the Hilton quota being lifted from Uruguayan steak. Wth do French farmers mean, ”lower standards”? It’s far superior to any steak produced in the EU.

[@DorotaKucza-hr6hz]

well you should also include the standards in the field of climate protection, environment, labor standards and animal welfare, which all make EU-made food automatically more expensive to produce than in the Mercosur countries

[@Ianopike]

@ I do, at least most of them (labour cost being an exception). Do you know how Uruguayan beef is being produced?

[@Pedroclf]

Brasil sells more meat to Saudi Arabia then to EU lol this guys are kidding.

[@HussarVistas]

Saudi Arabia doesn't have agriculture lol

[@Pedroclf]

@HussarVistas did I say it had?

[@HussarVistas]

@@Pedroclf so it's obvious they're gonna sell more to Saudi Arabia. Europeans are afraid about the food sufficiency and security. Not everything capitalistic market will do, is good per se.

[@Pedroclf]

@@HussarVistas lol No it is not obvious. What is the population of Saudi Arabia and EU? How many countries Saudi Arabia can import from in the world? And yet they import more from Brasil than Europe.

[@HussarVistas]

@@Pedroclf it is no argument we have to import from them, we have our own agriculture

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

This deal is amazing for Europe and I am thrilled about it. Europe needs this deal to survive. Aside having to deal with the french I would say this deal a huge success. Brazilian Beef will be very welcome here.

[@joaocleaopeixoto]

Brazilian picanha 🇧🇷 and Argentine chorizo 🇦🇷 are on another level. Honestly, it’s tough to beat them, maybe Texas brisket comes close, but just maybe.

[@evaldohonoriodasilvasilva]

Brazil is one of the largest meat producers in the world Brazil is very strong in agriculture the French are scared to death😂😂😂😂😂

[@RodriValencia-qq6lj]

And what is wrong with protecting your country and interests.. You think about trade, they think about work and human lives in that country. They are fully right. And some day revolution will come to them of what they do in the unelected 666Brussel. This is just another step closer to all out war from the people to the goverments of WEF in the EU. EU first and make EU great again. And after that the rest.

[@ardi08]

Next time Brazil can also exported packed Brazilian BBQ to gain more income from your meat products 😉😌

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

That's why this deal is not going to happen.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

Free trade as long as European sell Tariffs if others sell 😂😂😂😂😂

[@anthonysabini9496]

These Farmers are increasingly annoying with their opposition against everything

[@Ganymede559]

Lmfao. They are quality entertainment.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

So what happens when our domestic farmers are driven out of business and we get into a dispute with Mercosur..and they decide to stop importing stuff here? You really don't want to be depended on anyone else with such a critical commodity like food.

[@MrRomano22]

This is very dangerous and can lead to diminishing food security in Europe. Food should be produced locally not imported for another corner of the world not even knowing that they keep our standards. In Europe farmers have to follow specific rules and allowing now imports from third countries is not fair play.

[@Frey_2026]

@@MrRomano22 The biggest complaint is Brazil's use of pesticides on crops, which is considered a standard PROCEDURE worldwide, but the French won't do that, making their food susceptible to contamination. I once heard a French guy say that he wouldn't use deodorants because they were carcinogenic, which tells you about all you need to know about the French. The rest of Europe has already adopted higher hygiene standards; I don't know what France's problem is.

[@Erik14703]

​@@mutkaluikkunen3926Overregulation is not so good isn't it? 😂

[@PossibleBat]

Hope France (as always) and Poland (didn’t expect it from them…) don’t ruin this

[@DorotaKucza-hr6hz]

These are the three main reasons for the Polish Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development's opposition to the agreement with Mercosur: 1. The agreement provides for too large a reduction in EU customs duties and/or too high tariff quotas. We believe that the customs preferences offered to Mercosur countries are too far-reaching in some sectors. This may result in the risk of Polish agri-food products being forced out of EU markets by products imported from Mercosur countries. 2. The problem of importing agricultural products manufactured under different conditions and production standards has not been resolved. Our postulate that the condition for the abolition of EU customs duties is that products from Mercosur countries comply with EU standards regarding sustainable development (including standards in the field of climate protection, environment, labor standards and animal welfare) has not been implemented in practice. The exception concerns eggs. In this case, the abolition of customs duties (after a 4-year transition period) in access to the EU market is to be conditioned by compliance with specific animal welfare principles. 3. The agreement lacks provisions ensuring the effectiveness of the safeguard clause. The provisions of the agreement that concern the safeguard clause - i.e. the possibility of temporarily reintroducing customs duties in the event of excessive imports causing market disruption or damage to EU producers - are, in our opinion, not adapted to the specifics of the agricultural sector.

[@holgernielsen-ti8ej]

Agriculture is important to any region in the world to secure the region can be sustained even in a crisis. That is why EU and US subsidies farming with billions of dollars every year. But we can not let the farming communities dictate all trade deals. There are other considerations. Most of us rely on service and manufacturing. The quality of food from South America is often superior to the food produced in Europe. We use far more pesticides and penicillin in the European production.

[@giuseppeanoardi3973]

I doubt that very much, EU's law is the strictest on the planet concerning food regulations.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

Being self-sufficient with your food production is pretty important. If cheap imports drive EU farmers out of business, we're going to regret that at some point in the future.

[@prosymbian4814]

@@mutkaluikkunen3926 the trade deals have quotas, so the farming industry will not die in europe, will it be afflicted? yes that is why they are complaining and overreacting.

[@3dus]

I laugh at beef standards from EU. Meat from S.A. is the best in the world, unlike cattle in other countries, they are not confined, the feed in vast farms. That’s also why a beef cut from SA is so superior in flavor.

[@v_112]

beef is costly, unhealthy and generally pointless - it wastes valuable space and resources, other protein products like poultry or even pork are way more sustainable and cheaper, not to mention they are much healthier, especially chicken.

[@markcu975]

But beef is delicious.

[@v_112]

@@markcu975 it's really not - it's basic and ground beef is basically paper - doesn't matter how well it is seasoned or how good of a quality it is. The only good beef is a good stake - which is expensive, easy to mess up and not economic at all.

[@dltn42]

Not mentioning that the contrary to Mercosur, the cattle in France is raised in captivity

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

I laugh at your statement. It's just wind moving your lips.

[@chicooliveira432]

This is hugely benefitial for both sides and the planet in general. The European technology could play a crucial role in the environmental preservation and tackling of global warming crisis.

[@julientabulazero103]

This will hand France to Le Pen in the next elections. I wouldn’t call that beneficial but rather idiotic.

[@chris6ix.]

Oh, yeah right, producing Food in LATAM and then shipping it to Europe instead of just producing it in Europe and vice versa is so great for the planet.

[@xena2559]

Blind

[@kochka22]

Transporting goods that can be produced locally all over the world is good for the planet, is this a joke ?? 🤣🤣

[@chicooliveira432]

@@kochka22 No, it is not a joke. If you stop for a moment and start thinking for once in your life you will realize that this agreement will provide access to a gigantic market for agricultural technology and machinery exports that could make production in Mercosur way more effective and sustainable. All the revenue brought by the machinery sales could be invested in green technologies and research, thus, fostering European industries development for the next decades and paving the way to reduce the reliance on oil and gas from Russia.

[@larissamello374]

In mercosur there are some that are against it as well. But we respect what the majority wants better than some European country who thinks too highly of themselves.

[@MassimoMaghetti-j8o]

This is an agreement of historical importance for EU , wether the farmers like it or not. Polish and French are not forced to take part in this agrement if they don ' t want , but sooner or later they will regret to kick out such a big agreement.

[@aleserban9322]

you agree with destroying agriculture in EU , you will eat beatless ham hami

[@proton8741]

Your ultra liberal thinking is a thing of the past. Environnement has to be at the central point of all policies and certainly economics. importing products that can be produced locally is an aberration

[@julientabulazero103]

That is where you got it wrong. French and Polish farmers will have to face the consequence whether they want it or not. They will make their voice heard in the next presidential election by voting for anti-EU candidates.

[@aleserban9322]

@@julientabulazero103 STOP nonsense green deal is only solution I think.

[@zezaway]

@@aleserban9322 So you want to pay for expensive food to support some french farmers?

[@tobia9630]

Latin America has the best meat in the world.

[@manu3l246]

Only Argentina, because of the Pampas, cows are happier there.

[@luisamaria3068]

@@manu3l246 Brazil south and midwest have cerrado and pampas, cows are free to walk.

[@Siranoxz]

I'm looking forward in South America's exotic fruits and vegetables.. The European Farmers may have to diversify in their crops or find something else to produce. Or lose due to strong competition. This may encourage the EU to start developing new fields.

[@sandrocezario4679]

Vai conhecer o maracujá e açaí!

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

And when there are no domestic farmers left and Mercosur decides to stop importing meat into Europe..? Or they decide to start using growth hormones in their meat, but you wouldn't want to eat that? Can't get any domestic, hormone free meat so it's either that or those exotic fruits.

[@larissamello3262]

I was in a city called Petrolina last month that especialized in exporting fruits to Europe. They are so sweet and beautiful. And so cheap. I had the best breakfast in my live. Amazon forest also has an infinite number of them, I found one with omega 3.

[@larissamello3262]

@@mutkaluikkunen3926 it is in the agreement that mercosur has to follow the same standards Europe follows to export. The farms that already export to Europe especialized in the market because of that. The producers are not complaining because if you export to Europe, Japan and South Korea will also start buying. The cotas are very low, only 4% of Europe consumption of sugar and meat will be exported. Tropical fruits no limit. The farmers will be fine, the only problem they have is that people will realize long term that they pay too much for food and mercosur don’t need subsidies.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

@@larissamello3262 Therein lies the problem. Food security comes at a price. Of course you can't expect farmers in much less favorite climate to compete with more or less year around growing season, thus subsidies. This deal needs to be fully laid out and consequences analyzed before it can proceed.

[@summer031977]

The fact that Von Der Lyen signed the deal with the objections of France says that Macron is a weak leader.

[@uruguaylusitano5797]

So the Sky is blue?

[@summer031977]

@uruguaylusitano5797 The sky is any color that you want it to be. Understand?

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

Not really. What it says is that EU and EU's interests are MUCH bigger than Germany or France alone. And Ukraine will join the EU one day, with ALL of it's grain. What will France do then? Another tantrum? California and Texas can't get everything they want in the USA too. Other parts of the USA got their OWN needs. That's how every region gets the development.

[@summer031977]

@Just_another_Euro_dude California and Texas are a part of one country. The EU is not a country. It's a collection of 27 independent countries. Big difference

[@en3241]

No, it means Germany falls in recession.

[@paulocembranelli5514]

Now that the Trade Agreement Draft between Mercosul and the European Union has been signed the French producers and farmers will have to roll up the sleeves and start to really work on their lands.Actually Argentinian and Brazilian beef are high quality products...

[@elnonoo591]

No thanks for having doubts about hormone-treated meat. I have much more confidence in my Salers beef.

[@paulocembranelli5514]

@@elnonoo591 It's your choice, likewise I perceive Chinese and American cars made more reliable and affordable than European made cars

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

Eyah, that is gonna be a problem, the french farmers and hard work is a tough combination. French like to exploit nations not to work hard themselves

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

@@elnonoo591 Same here. I would never buy meat, that's grown and processed in sub-bar conditions and then shipped over an ocean. I will gladly pay some extra for quality meat produced close by and know the money's going to support the local economy. That's an absolute no-brainer.

[@ad_astra468]

What a condescending comment, it’s not a matter of working hard genius it’s a matter of market competitiveness. If anything what should happen now is some EU sebsidies to fertilizer to bring down production costs for farmers so they can be more competitive.

[@stefyganda9798]

Goodbye USA...

[@ИгорьГанцев-ц3п]

Writes on KZbin using iPhone or android 😂

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

IPhone based on EU's, symbian OS from Finland and Android together with Microsoft based on Linux, again from Finland. And using the European languages for their operating systems. 😂😂😂😂 Like always, almost EVERYTHING first started in Europe. If USA-ians hate EU so much, they should stop driving cars stop using the motorways, stop watching the movies, stop taking the photos, stop reading the novels. Among 1000 other things. Cause all those are European inventions. Oh, and they should change the name of their continent too. Cause it's an European Italian name. 😂😂😂😂 Oh and almost all the names of their cities are European too. But i don't blame them. We discovered and created that place and every single thing about it. 😅😅😅😅😅 There's Alexandria even in Egypt. European Greek city.

[@ИгорьГанцев-ц3п]

@@Just_another_Euro_dude you should see a doctor

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

​@@Just_another_Euro_dudeboth made in china

[@bebopmugen7001]

Faire 10000km et plus a de la viande alors que l'Europe est pratiquement autosuffisante sur sa nourriture est un non sens. Tout ça, pour vendre des voitures.

[@idkoolproduction]

What about estern europe their only sourse of income is farming like Romania, Bulgaria ,Poland etc. Now they have to immigrate to other countries because they losing jobs at home. We can see how German car production is doing now.

[@MartinZhel]

How about they export and sell to Mercosur? They will make a lot more money. Isn’t that the whole idea to be able to export more?

[@danielefabbro822]

As Italian, we defended France for solidarity, we're not against free trade with everyone. We literally need trade to get our economy stronger. The only obes here in Italy that can possibly lament this thing are the guys of Confagricoltura, they hope to get no competition to keep high their prices... But it's not how it's work, it never works like that. If you don't have competition you can rise the prices and make a lot of money, but on the long run your products will just become less quality and ridiculously costly for what they are. Introducing competition will keep inflation at bay and citizens will get still good food but not risk to go babkruptcy just for a fxcking steak. After all the guys of Confagricoltura are the same ones that opposed Lab meat and all that stuff that could space us tons of reasources to be wasted. They have their own little economic induct to feed after all...

[@Joey-ct8bm]

Italy needs every cent they can get. You live in the country that has the worst economy of Europe and Meloni isn't even cutting back. She's hitting even higher budget deficits than France with even higher debt too.

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

Honestly, youz should have solidarety for Italy, this deal will help Italy's economy greatly. And your economy is really really weak.

[@danielefabbro822]

@Joey-ct8bm actually ours is the best economy of Europe bro. I mean we're the fourth exporters in the world, the only economy among the big four top economies of Europe that still grows and our public debt is owned for more than two thirds by us. I mean, our economy is 1.5 times bigger than that of Russia AFTER having lost trade with Russia and diminished trade with the falling-apart economy of Germany. I mean, if we're not the top power of Europe, I really don't know who can be... 🤣🤣

[@danielefabbro822]

@@duncanb.a.s2886 you don't know much about the world, right? 🤭

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

@@danielefabbro822 That is not a reply, you are just trying to make a burn, tell me what I said wrong? I'd love to learn from you, please.

[@zezaway]

Let's pay for expensive food to support some french farmers, who cares about inflation, right?

[@julientabulazero103]

😂 France is a net contributor to the EU budget… but trust me: not for long after this

[@chris6ix.]

It's obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. This is not about supporting some french farmers. This is about defending the EU's food security.

[@zezaway]

@@chris6ix. Thats what they tell you..

[@chris6ix.]

@@zezaway If you mean logic by "they" then yes, that true.

[@zezaway]

@@chris6ix. You already depend on imports for food lol, what you mean by EU food security?

[@guillaumerenard5974]

More and more globalization... such a disaster Agriculture is not a market, it's a service to the population. We can't trade our means of subsistence like we trade cars

[@romankacin8365]

So sick of the French making their farmers always the most important and value destroying cohort in the EU.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

It's not just the French farmers. This would impact every farmer in the entire EU. The French are just most vocal about it.

[@romankacin8365]

@@mutkaluikkunen3926 And this is why the EU doesn't work. 50% of the EU budget goes to subsidizing our farmers (read: free money) and we STILL have to defend this 4% of the workforce so that 96% don't benefit from a free trade deal. Unbelievable.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

@@romankacin8365 Still, the solution is not to destroy our food security by forcing farmers into bankruptcy. And I don't know what you mean by "96%" does not benefit from the deal. The way I see it, every European benefits from the deal of guaranteed food security.

[@ignacio.carral]

Free trade is beneficial for most people. The ones who have a lot to lose are those with unfair advantages and privileges on both sides of the Ocean.

[@NadNorgaard]

Food, energy and medicine... is what you never should be dependant on from another continent, if you can produce it yourself. In EU we certainly can produce all the food we need, and more than that - so why make ourselves once again dependant on an essential item? Didnt we get enough dependancy on imported gas and oil?

[@alemigav000]

If the EU could I think it would have already done so. The EU is already at a great agricultural efficiency but there's not enough space for it nor cattle production, that is why food is so pricey. You have harsh winters and need clean energy production for heating but do not have enoigh energy sources, no oil, no hydroelectric plants, and the nuclear energy you could be using has been essentialy banished since Chernobyl, so you are completely dependant of gas. Mercosur on the other hand have open wide terrain suitable for planting and cattle production, in a sustainable way, and we are number one in agricultural technology, no doubt about that. Besides, Brazil particularly already have hydroelectric, solar and most of brazilian cars can run on ethanol, which compared to gasoline has 67% reduction in CO2 emissions and is estimated that this efficiency will come up to 90% in 15 years. We have established surplus clean energy and legal raw earth materials for you to be able to compete with china and not rely so much on russia, but I guess pride gets in the way.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

Exactly THIS. There are so many scenarios where relying on outside food imports can go terribly wrong. Maybe we can exclude food items which are conflicting with European food security and trade with what's left.. like exotic fruits, minerals etc.

[@AxGerm756]

But large businesses can make a bigger profit if they can outsource production and benefit from lower labor costs.

[@Kris-xh6wk]

Quick question: are Brexiters still proud of their decision? 😌

[@abcdeabcde4877]

Probably. I hope my country will exit EU ASAP.

[@unstoppable5357]

​@@abcdeabcde4877IVAN, bro how is weather in Moscow?

[@calc1657]

Luckily the South Americans don't 'chlorinate' their meat. Otherwise, there would be opposition to a trade deal. 😁

[@xena2559]

Neh, they put gliphosat

[@en3241]

Europeans also you mestaken EU with US.

[@SuperMirekS]

Portugalia, Grecja, Hiszpania nie protestują na razie, ale gdy Ameryka Południowa zobaczy jak uprawa oliwek i winogron jest opłacalna to się zdziwią, że nie mają już wyłączności na dostawę drogiej oliwy, wina i cytrusów na rynek europejski.

[@Frey_2026]

Portugal, Greece, Spain and Italy will never have to worry about their olives since they are in the best spot on earth to cultivate them.

[@val_m1999]

The problem with “1st world govs” is they always must have an agreement that is in their favor vs. a mutal agreement, especially when the agreement is with “non-1st-world” or perceived “non-1st-world” govs. This goes especially for France when it claims it is not a class system, but its efforts are thwarted by a system that has had class embedded in it for over half a millennium. Remember, the saying “those who do are not from Paris are not French”. That is a saying that puts one people (regardless of their abilities, character, breeding, wealth, etc. above the rest of France and even more so for France’s protectorates, right?

[@danireis22]

If EU food was that great, they wouldnt be worring. When you have a product that has better qualiry, you have no fear of competition. The fear only exists when you know the competitor has a qualiry product. This is just like Chinese EVs

[@you-to-beornot-to-be9629]

better quality????? or cheaper labor???? what r u talking about????

[@shadowxnihillist]

Brazilian and Argentinian meats are the best of the world, just fact.

[@dltn42]

French cattle are raised in captivity... The Mercosur cattle don't. I think this is the difference, also this is a major animal wellness point, one thing is being raised in the field, another is to be raised in a factory.

[@ricardomadleno564]

More like because it’s cheaper. We know European food is higher quality thanks to quality food regulations but that also comes at a price. None the less there will be people who will go for the cheap option for obvious reasons.

[@vandenberghsimon]

its not really about the food quality, its about money as always and part of our independence and ability to grow our own food will be gone. Lets say a major war breaks out in Europe, who will give us a guarantee that south americans will be on our side and continue to trade with us? or a war breaks out in south america. The only guarantee is possessing the power and might yourself. its like with russian gas, we were so reliant on it that it screwed many of us over when the ruskies closed the pipes.

[@aparajitasuman9727]

Wish my country India did too.

[@ad_astra468]

The EU could compensate farmers to make sure they can still make a living but with the current trend of anti CAP legislation it kinda feels like a war on farmers. Just subsidizing fertilizer would be enough to make them more competitive.

[@Stu1391]

This is objectively a good deal for both Europeans and South Americans.

[@luiss5498]

I'm Brazilian and I'm really afraid of paying more for food, I'm not sure if this deal will really benefit us, time will tell.

[@en3241]

@@luiss5498 this deal will be history if France, Poland and Italy block it.

[@luiss5498]

@@en3241 I'm really hoping for that. Brazil Should make more deals with Asia, not Europe. This trade agreement is so old that became obsolete. Europe is in the past.

[@en3241]

@@luiss5498​​⁠yes your right. Europe is the past also your past cause your descendants were from there. You should show some respect.

[@jz261]

Oh no the french are upset! I see this deal as an absolute win! Viva Argentina🇦🇷

[@MrNeilandio]

It's time for France and Poland to modernize their farming industry.

[@en3241]

How to modernize weather to have 3 harvest a year??? Tell me.

[@luisamaria3068]

@@en3241 Focusing in other agricultural products that Merconsul does not have.

[@wiktorbetlejewski6603]

German corruption and treachery have no limits

[@papaleyo]

elaborate?

[@susannehartl3067]

​@@papaleyo Don't hold your breath.

[@terencefield3204]

Done entirely to help German industrial sales while sticking it to the rest of rural Europe and particularly France.

[@tyhaas3w]

I support this deal because im not farmer, im grocery customer. Im not allowed to organize blocade to lower gorcery prices becuse i would be arested. We not helping Germany but entire industry in Europe. Frederic Bastiat was french.

[@XxNORaGexX]

Facts: Germany won’t push much more cars in SA because of this, European agricultural norms are stricter and more costly. I understand that Europe stands for free trade, but then remove the red tape to allow European farmers to compete.

[@davimc100]

Eu vou comprar muitos produtos europeus, e vamos dá lucro para a UE, mas os produtos da França serão e estão boicotados no Brasil, a Alemanha já sabe que o brasilero compra e compra muito os produtos germanicos. A França está sendo cancelada no brasil, não compro mais nenhum perfume francês...

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

Muito bem, a Alemanha agradece 😃 e queremos a carne Brasilira aqui 😃

[@NoName-hg6cc]

If you buy only German it's hardly "for the EU" And no, I'm not French

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

@NoName-hg6cc He meant there is a huge market for german products, not only german

[@ckrowc]

"It seems that French farmers want to dictate the rules; it is up to the European Union to put them in their place!"

[@agritech802]

There main reason why European farmers are not happy with South American food imports is because European farmers have to abide by some of the strictest rules in the world which reduces output and increases costs. Those countries don't have those rules so so it's not a fair playing field.

[@prosymbian4814]

yeah but in order for these businesses to export to eu , they have to pass the same regulations and a thorough inspection by eu sanitary authorities, in other words you have no clue what youre talking about

[@agritech802]

@prosymbian4814 sorry you're completely wrong

[@yassinebenryan2814]

@@prosymbian4814 in real practice that's not the case.

[@_____alyptic]

Poland is blocking it?

[@seanyhide8155]

As the EU Commission cripples EU farmer's ability to farm with it's farming restrictions it turns around and concludes an agreement to allow free trade of farm products from Latin America. They really are ruthless.

[@corumuk67]

Meanwhile, here in the UK....

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

what is that? UK I mean 😂

[@sebbvell3426]

0:18 Javier Millei doesn't seem to get along with Luis Lacalle Pou, Lula Da Silva or Santiago Peña

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

he is totally isolated in SA from what I hear. Dude is a clown

[@tilapiadave3234]

PERFECT example of the useless EU ,,, 25 YEARS !!!! to negotiate a deal ,... so much time and money wasted with hundreds of meetings millions of hours of public servants pushing papers around on desks

[@YellewBhee]

Don’t forget folks this is just all in a drawing ….Dream Scheme

[@gillis51]

This deal is going to be good overall for EU consumers as it will bring the cost of food and natural resources lower. The EU farmers can still advertise to their national populations their local products as more healthy, more environment friendly although more costly. There is a cost to be paid for higher quality products. There will always be a significant market for local products from small niche producers. As for large producers, wether local or intl, not sure the standards are of quality over costs and profit margins.

[@Jose-og909]

France needs to leave what a bs deal for french farmers.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

Free trade as long as European sell Tariffs if others sell 😂😂😂😂😂

[@foxyboiiyt3332]

Not too happy with it here in Ireland either.

[@zapfanzapfan]

Cheaper Argentinian wine? Yes, please!

[@edgardogarcia2719]

I think that South America is ready to join this deal and how know perhaps even make it bigger and promote a stronge alliance into military and other terrains after this short exchange like most of the EU countries and considering we are not even part of the UE we have already developed the same EU feeling about the French

[@megapeiron]

Free trade benefits everyone. Brazil is good at farming 🧺 and Germany is good at making cars 🚗. The Europeans get cheaper food 🍇 and the Brazilians get cheaper vehicles 🚜. The Europeans farmers will need to change their production and the Brazilian automotive factories will need a change too. Perhaps, the farmers will start producing cheese and olive oil, at the same the Brazilian factories will start producing other types of devices. It is the market. Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷

[@Jan-jx7gf]

think about what you write!!! Do you want to eat chemically modified GMO food and genetically modified animal products? Europe has the healthiest food in the world.

[@w1se_w0lf]

EU will collapse in incoming years and deal will be dead, we will not allow destruction of our food security and will even make an alliance with Russia if we need to protect French interest.

[@CB-pf5lb]

@@Jan-jx7gf What about you also think about what you write? "Chemically modified GMO", really? Do you even know what "GMO" stands for?

[@megapeiron]

You can't decide in name of Europeans. You are very authoritarian. If Europeans wanted the supposed healthier food, then nothing would change in the scenario - you will be eating your local food. Else, the European people decided they prefer prices over quality, even though Mercosur products have a high standard. @Jan-jx7gf To me, it is just a narrative to protect the national industry of your country.

[@xena2559]

Blind

[@sebbvell3426]

0:13 why isn't Luis Arce in that photo? Bolivia 🇧🇴 is part of Mercosur after all.

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

Sort of... it is accepted as a member, but not a full member yet. They need time to adjust to all the new rules Blivia will have to follow. Just like any new country joins the EU.

[@lokesh303101]

Commodity and Industrial and Services Agreement is the Free Trade Agreement - Sales Tax!

[@TheKkpop1]

Free trade is possible without Britain.

[@cezartb]

Funny the fall of the US.

[@billfairless6256]

Cheaper meat for the EU bad luck farmers.

[@PABLO1SEBASTIAN1]

Mesieur!!! Le subensiôn uh lala!

[@thiagocunha4611]

Europe is losing the industrial and technological race to the USA, Asia and even Brazil itself (aircraft industry for exemple). Isolating and remaining on the defensive will only deepen the process of European decline. ok, farmers need to be protected but through internal mechanisms and incentives and not by isolating Europe.

[@KurdistanePaper]

In Europe because of the robber organizations and some companies have no security

[@nixpkwy]

Just try exiting the EU France...🤣It is going to go great, because isolationism is awesome and has no drawbacks at all. Honestly this trade deal might be worse for South America because they export cheap raw commodities and buy expensive manufactured, processed products. But France won't even let us have the breadcrumbs.

[@ZakiHaider-y9o]

Free trade as long as European sell Tariffs if others sell 😂😂😂😂😂

[@commoditiesoilcommerce3977]

TIENE RAZON EL PRESIDENTE MILEI, EL PROBLEMA ES QUE LOS 2 BLOQUES SON PROTECCIONISTAS DE POR SI !!

[@zaheerrasheed6817]

What happens when China manufacturers electric cars in Brazil 😂😂😂 no more tariffs 😂😂😂

[@GusPlaceres-gp7mj]

17,840,000 km2 (6,890,000 sq mi) (4th) Population 434,254,119 (2021; 5th) Population density 21.4/km2 (56.0/sq mi) GDP (PPP) $7.61 trillion (2022 est; 5th) GDP (nominal) $3.62 trillion (2022 est; 4th)

[@grzech-tz2kg]

Ursula von der Leyen podpisała te umowe w iteresie Niemiec, a nie UE i Europejczyków. Dopiero co Niemcom zamiast wielkiego biznesu z Putinem, maszyny i elektronika za gaz, wyszedł wielki kryzys energetyczny, to już ładują Europejczyków na kolejną mine, tym razem kryzys żywnościowy. Bezpieczeństwo żywnościowe jest tak samo ważne jak militarne czy energetyczne i każdy kraj stara się być w jak największym stopniu samowystarczalny żywnościowo, tylko UE nie, a wszystko przez to że polityka klimatyczna UE doprowadziła gospodarkę do jej niekonkurencyjności wobec gospodarek USA i Chin. Pozostało więc Unii wymieniać maszyny i elektronikę na paciorki (żywność), której sami mamy wystarczająco dużo. Dziekujemy Niemcom i wszystkim klimatycznym oszołomom i witamy UE w trzecim świecie!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

Food crisis in the EU because of this deal? Ahahahahahahha 😂😂😂😂😂😂 More like obesity crisis getting even worse with all this cheaper food! 😅

[@grzech-tz2kg]

​@@Just_another_Euro_dudeGdy po kilkunastu latach likwidując własną produkcje rolną UE uzależni się od żywności z zewnątrz, zagrożenia będą zupełnie inne. Takie jak było z dostępem do leków w czasie pandemii, których Unia pozbyła się produkcji na rzecz ich produkcji i sprowadzania z Chin. Świat nie jest do końca przewidywalny i łagodna spokojna pogoda może się nagle zmienić w niszczycielską burzę, więc lepiej mieć to co nam do życia zawsze będzie niezbędne u siebie. Ursula von der Leyen myśli krótkowzrocznie w interesie obecnej trudnej sytuacji niemieckiej gospodarki, a nie długofalowego bezpieczeństwa żywnościowego Europejczyków.

[@gabrielroman4535]

Bolivia is not part of the Mercosur.

[@KielBrito]

It is, since 2023.

[@gabrielroman4535]

@KielBrito It's is not a member state, is an asociated state, which is different. Chile, Peru, Colombia, Panama and others are also examples of asociated states but no member states.

[@edgardogarcia2719]

they joined in 2023 so ou can add teh litium of Argentine bolivia and chile the largest reserve in the world are there

[@JuanLopez-vu7oo]

uruguay has 100% clean energy and sells it for example, germania is desperate and now needs LA, the backup got called in xD

[@teemulaulajainen9410]

Very sad agreement. World is accelerating again to break the planetary boundaries.

[@HassanHosseini128]

It can't be bilateral but unilateral. EU afford buy SA products not vise versa. SA consist mostely of poor countries. This agreement can not go through.

[@hilwaamanamankiyar-pp5bf]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@RandySnarsh]

Great news for Trumps tariffs 😂

[@casfla6455]

Os bois sao os msm, nao tem carne melhor, mais quem mais produz.

[@voulathomacos-lagonas8445]

Vonder- pain HAS TO PROTECT EU FARMERS FIRST and not her pockets

[@rhenderson9862]

As Europe manufactures little to nothing, importing vast quantities of durable and nondurable goods from China and India. Those goods rejected as substandard for the EU community, will be immediately forwarded to South American communities. Welcome, to "substandard" excellence!!!!!

[@johnpaul3099]

Are you insane

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

In the car industry ALONE EU got 12,6 MILLION people working. EU manufacturs little to nothing? Basically all the best car brands, bike brands, fashion brands, food and drink brands, cosmetics brands, furniture brands, etc. are from the EU. I could EASILY (and i mean EASILY) name 100 famous EU brands from all those categories right now. And all of them are WORLD famous. Oh and MOST of THE MOST FAMOUS video games are made in the EU. And of course the most popular sport league of the WORLD, the UEFA Champions League is from the EU too. Among other things that EU clearly produces. Oh and let's not forget all the EU industrial machines, chips and the bullet trains that EU makes and also quite a large military industry. Basically there's no modern world without the EU.

[@edgardogarcia2719]

well we already buy a lot from China if through you we gt it even cheaper is a win win dont you think?

[@ad_astra468]

The EU manufactures little to nothing? What planet are you living in?

[@TienyeeTien]

Von Der Leyen: herr Biden, my mission has been completed. EU is gone. Could I reunite with my family in California?

[@xena2559]

She should be in jail

[@susannehartl3067]

That deal is in the works since 1995. Non of these two were in offices at that time.

[@pabr2405]

EU is digging its own grave..

[@julientabulazero103]

That's the political suicide of the EU.

[@olivergarcia2304]

How so?

[@julientabulazero103]

@ by making sure the next French President is Marine Le Pen or Jean-Luc Mélenchon

[@TienyeeTien]

Von der Leyen is German American. Her mission is to weaken EU.

[@frankthetank5708]

​@@julientabulazero103 How should this effect the EU? Both do support the Union.

[@HenryClavo]

My question is why not deal with Pacific Alliance instead of Mercosur?

[@bentoclebson6661]

Mercosur is an economic bloc with the main regional powers, it has a parliament and much more, but this bloc does not, it is more of a common sense of countries and not an economic bloc.

[@gMLbn8unEMKv2FzhrEBAjLgrHtNQjU]

THe Pacific Alliance is mostly interested in Northe AMerica and Asia, for many reasons and this includes logistic.

[@susannehartl3067]

The EU has already established a close cooperative relationship with ASEAN. The group is the EU's third most important trading partner. Though there is no Free Trade Agreement for the whole group in place, the EU has FTAs with individual member states of ASEAN.

[@antoniooliveirasouza749]

Mercosur is western, pacific alliance are not

[@hilwaamanamankiyar-pp5bf]

DWUE

[@gandigooglegandigoogle7202]

FREXIT FREXIT FREXIT !!

[@abcdeabcde4877]

And hopefully PLEXIT, once we get rid of the leftist puppet government controlled by foreigners.

[@Frey_2026]

Yeah, let's kick them out lol

[@gandigooglegandigoogle7202]

@@Frey_2026 ...please do it !

[@GGNH1234]

But then there won't be any sweet EU subsidies for French farmers..

[@abcdeabcde4877]

@@GGNH1234 Tariffs exist.

[@radearpurba3589]

Be careful for Mr. Donald Trump 🚨🚨🤝🤝💰💥💸💸🤒🤒🙏🏻

[@kenhunt5153]

I understand to a point the need...lithium and to counter China and the States but Ag will not be able to compete with fruits, wine, commodity crops and some dairy goods. This comes down to larger multinational firms vs families. Just like the free trade agreement between Mexico, the States and Canada only the Big Players will get the longterm benefits.

[@ricardomadleno564]

Who cares about agriculture though? Europeans will get cheaper food and European industrial legacy exports will raise. European agriculture are subsidy dependent whom not only bring no revenue at all but they bring massive expenses to the state through subsidies. This is not good for farmers but extremely good for European industries and the rest do the European citizens. Cheaper food all citizens and more money pouring in from outside through our industries. It a win-win situation for both European Union and South America.

[@frankthetank5708]

You will see how big companies will reap the benefits, when the USMCA is dissolved. It was similar in the UK after leaving the EU.

[@kenhunt5153]

@ricardomadleno564 Honestly, I can't think of one multinational trade deal that benefits families in the long run. If you think companies will open manufacturing in France vs Argentina...then, you don't understand who was pushing for this deal.

[@ricardomadleno564]

@@kenhunt5153 this is allowing a free trade from Mercosul countries and European Union. Again this allows for Europe to raise immensely their exports of machinery, cars and pharmaceuticals to South America and in return also allows for South America to raise their exports of food and minerals. European agriculture is expensive prices food will certainly lower thanks to this that will help a lot of families that is literally the reason why French farmers aren’t happy cause they know they will not be able to compete with the cheap prices of food coming from South America. Not only that but there is multiple more other European industries that will benefit immensely thanks to this. The one and only European industry that will be hurt is the farmers industry and that industry is a dead industry that does not bring profit at all it brings massive expenses through subsidies and the food is also expensive for Citizens. You’re out of your mind if you think this is not a great deal for both parties only farmers are the losing ones no one else loses from this the rest, of European and South American companies as well as their citizens win a lot from this.

[@kenhunt5153]

@ricardomadleno564 Did the North American Free Trade Agreement lower food costs for those in the States? Did it increase manufacturing? No. Private equity and publically traded companies will always seek the lowest cost of production whether it's Ag or industrial goods. Industrial jobs will not return to the EU on a large scale with this plan. Lower cost food imports will further drain rural areas and food costs will not go down. The top 1% and some in the top 10% will benefit but most will not.

[@press-biased.inconceivable]

These Wars were Started Over… Food. The rationale behind the increasing influence of China and Russia in Latin America. These is one of reasons. The historical French protectionism. "...accepting the French views that lobsters were like fish and ‘leapt’ on the ocean floor would be like Brazilians claiming that when kangaroos ‘hopped’ they should be considered as birds". Admiral Moreira da Silva France has been the deal’s most vocal opponent, and efforts by Europe’s second-largest economy to drum up opposition to the pact on agricultural grounds appear to be gaining steam. “Don’t throw the match onto the powder keg, because the blast of such a detonation would travel across the continent,” Agriculture Minister Annie Genevard told lawmakers. G. Leali. French MPs overwhelmingly condemn EU-South America trade deal as opposition spreads across Europe. POLITICO. Nov 26, 2024 (1) Nevertheless: (1.1) On February 21, 1961, French President Charles de Gaulle ordered the then state-of-the-art destroyer Tartu dispatched to the region to support the French boats. Meanwhile, diplomats from both nations argued over whether spiny lobsters were fish, caught while swimming in open water, or crustaceans, which like oysters had to be dragged off the seabed. With the Brazilian Navy preparing for war, and the always unpredictable de Gaulle rattling French sabers, it appeared the Lobster War would erupt into a shooting war. To prevent outright war, American diplomats pushed Brazil to negotiate a settlement or allow it to enter arbitration. British diplomats did the same with France. In 1962 France offered to accept arbitration if Brazil agreed. Brazil did not. Resentful of United States influence in South America, which Brazil saw as its own role, it instead took the issue to the International Court at the Hague. In the agreement they allowed French boats to trap spiny lobsters over the disputed area for a period of several years, though the number of boats was limited by the agreement. The dispute over whether the lobsters were fish that swim or crustaceans that crawl continued, though the threat of war over the argument came to an end. (L. Holzwarth.These Wars were Started Over… Food. History Collection. Sep 13, 2021). (1.2) The ‘scientific’ argument: - Although the military conflict ended without any human casualties, the ‘scientific’ argument continued until 1966. Both French and Brazilian scientists had their theories about the actual movement of these crustaceans. In France, the Administrative Tribunal of Rennes endorsed the French theory that lobsters were like fish and swam in the open ocean. They could, therefore, not be considered the property of any particular country. Brazil, on the other hand, claimed that lobsters were like oysters and remained down on the ocean floor, as a part of the continental shelf. Admiral Moreira da Silva, one of the Brazilian experts, said that accepting the French views that lobsters were like fish and ‘leapt’ on the ocean floor would be like Brazilians claiming that when kangaroos ‘hopped’ they should be considered as birds. (3) In our last specification, we show that the findings are similar when we allow for differences in impact over the short and long term. To ensure that our regressions correctly capture the impact of protectionism, we control the results for the level of religious conservatism in the department, the impact of migration and the structure of agricultural landownership. The results suggest that protectionism has a strongly negative impact over the long term. By reducing rates of school enrolment, the Méline tariff lowered the potential growth of the French economy. If we transpose these findings to today's policy debate, the implication is that protectionism in sectors requiring little qualified labour will lead to a fall in education levels. B. Vincent, G.-P. Cecilia. Bignon Vincent, Garcia-Peñalosa Cecilia. Working Paper Series no. 690. Banque de France. Aug 22, 2018).

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

This will affect farmers in every EU country, not just France. The French are just most eager to stand up for what's theirs. They're fighting for all of us.

[@HassanHosseini128]

It is a equation that does not work. EU import cheap from SA and SA coutries where mostely are poor import expensive from EU, while the same commodities can purchase much cheaper from China.

[@aleserban9322]

benefit just pockets of Brussels bureaucrats

[@frankthetank5708]

Their salary does save a lot of money for EU citizens. Think about the consequences if every country has it's own bureaucracy to make trade deals...

[@redeyedmongoose2963]

If it gets ratified it’s a terrible mistake

[@frankthetank5708]

Why actually? European and South American consumers do profit a lot from this deal.

[@chris6ix.]

@@frankthetank5708 Because it damages our food security. It will put European farmers out of jobs, and so we will become more dependent on other countries to feed ourselves. We have already seen how bad it was to be energy dependent on Russia and now imagine how much worse we will be off if we get cut off of food and not just energy.

[@uruguaylusitano5797]

Crimea River

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

Why is this a terrible mistake?? Please enlight us with your genius.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

@@duncanb.a.s2886 Are you really asking why driving your domestic food production out of business is a terrible mistake? Are you serious? What if a global food shortage hits us and we have very little domestic food production. Do you think Brazil is going to sell us their foodstuffs rather than feeding their own people first? That's just one scenario. Food is such a critical commodity that you really do not want to depend on others for it. I'm really amazed you and many other people here don't seem to get it.

[@florentavakar7691]

Adios agricultura en Europa

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

Adios to average EU citizens getting ROBBED by their OWN farmers. Welcome to the CHEAPER prices of food in the EU and welcome to the South American lithium for the EU's EV car industry. 😎👍

[@ianleslie6971]

Any deal not based on a hemp infrastructure is terrible for the environment. Bring on the activists

[@Apollo-p1l]

What?

[@QuimbayaXYZ]

That's the last thing the Amazon Rainforest needs : a further economic stimulus towards cattle raising and cultivation of soybeans.

[@raprezenta]

She is consciously working against the European people with everything he does. I hope he goes to prison for it!

[@onetime1239]

South America should not be dealing with colonizers

[@duncanb.a.s2886]

I disagree, you definitely shouldmake deals. Now the power has shifted and you guys have the power and here in Europe we know that. France is a pathetic country, they complain about verything. In Germany we see S. Aamerica as a very close friend, specially Brazil. Germany and Brazil have always had a very good relationship.

[@KielBrito]

@@duncanb.a.s2886 I agree. I am Brazilian and there was many German companies in my region. Brazil also have over 10 million german descendants.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

But most south americans ARE the colonizers... right? Man, not the sharpen pen in the pencil case?

[@cheeseflavoredsoda3262]

What are the South Americans going to buy again ? Aren't all of them poorer than Albania and Kosovo?

[@GusPlaceres-gp7mj]

17,840,000 km2 (6,890,000 sq mi) (4th) Population 434,254,119 (2021; 5th) Population density 21.4/km2 (56.0/sq mi) GDP (PPP) $7.61 trillion (2022 est; 5th) GDP (nominal) $3.62 trillion (2022 est; 4th)

[@cheeseflavoredsoda3262]

@@GusPlaceres-gp7mj So nothing?

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

They will buy something that they need, i am sure of it. Based on the size of the market alone. Per capita basis they might not be rich. Chile, Uruguay, Panama, Costarica got solid numbers there, but when you look the size of the market and the economy size of places like Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, Rio, and many other big cities it becomes clear that they will want to buy A LOT of things that they need, from the EU. There could be a lot of EU tech going the way of South America. EU could even help with building the bullet train network in South America. For example coastal Brazil could be connected. Remember, EU, more precisely Germany basically made the first bullet train for China, the Siemens. And it did the same for Russia, with the bullet train between Moscow and St. Petersburg. It's a German Siemens, that's called Sapsan in Russia.