Euphoria Went TOO Far... (Episode 7 Reaction)

[@AaronandJo]

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[@himarihina]

are you gonna react to love is blind season two?

[@jaylaalle5827]

@@himarihina aaron said on his ig story that s2 was bad compared to the first season so they won’t be watching it.

[@tink6225]

😎

[@waffles658]

Since yall loved meg in Hercules so much. I’d recommend watching Sinbad lmao

[@BootsMcGee3]

3:21 welcome to a mid season clip show in the 21st century

[@rachelrosario5795]

if you told me that nate jacobs would be defeated by theater nerds wearing metallic pants lip syncing to holding out for a hero i would have NEVER believed you 💀 lexi and ethan did what they had to do!!!

[@Sam-0827]

Lexi is my hero

[@elusivebutsatisfyingt.9166]

IT WAS LITERALLY THE BEST FCKING THING EVER AND I THOUGHT EP 5 WAS THE BEST LIKE WTF i did't think s2 would be THIS fcking good

[@angelajaime5155]

Evil was defeated by the theater kids xD

[@peggybauer6570]

Its bad writing. Charactars in the second season unrecognizable compared to season one. Kinda sad

[@Sam-0827]

@@peggybauer6570 I agree. So many out of character choices were made

[@lycgami]

ethan BODIED his role in the play, he's an icon

[@hildahilda1823]

Literally though!! The actor went all out for that episode. Talk about dedication

[@Elena-cq4hk]

Yesssss

[@djercikkral9263]

And Cat thinks he is boring like ?? he killed it

[@dylanjordan4747]

kat continues to take L’s

[@noreenaa7512]

roles*

[@Nyma6000]

Cassie turning into the joker is genuinely scary WHEN SHE WAS JUST BREATHING INTO THE WINDOW😭

[@sortasofi254]

huffin n puffin

[@swayze8806]

Hot ass breath on that damn window smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jaylaalle5827]

@@sortasofi254 like puff the magic dragon

[@phoenixfire1124]

She turned into the velociraptor from Jurrasic Park.

[@HattyBee]

reminded me of carrie

[@Harambeshouldbehere]

I don’t think Leslie aka Rue’s mom was wrong, she deserves to hear that from her own mom. Rue had OD’d basically twice so she clearly needs to see how much it affects the ones around her and HEAR it.

[@Sam-0827]

Exactly she’s tried everything, and this was the last resort

[@rachelrosario5795]

i agree, i’ve seen so many ask “why is she saying this now while rue is sober” as if rue ever listened while she’s on drugs!!! at some point you have to stop coddling people and give them the hard truth… leslie is emotionally, mentally, physically, and probably financially tired, this isn’t an easy thing to say to your child but it had to be done

[@pheebsmanila8504]

i agree, i think it was harsh but leslie had every right to say that and be frustrated about it

[@fatoumatacisse3796]

Literally like I don’t get why people are saying it’s wrong it might be harsh but it’s the truth and rue NEEDS to hear that she already caused a lot of stress for the family so I feel like it was important to hear

[@jadarocks01]

she’s taking ali’s advice from last episode. he said “let rue be rue and show the other one (gia) some love”

[@flamingstar8661]

somebody better give ethan an oscar, academy award, a tony, an emmy, throw in a GRAMMY too just for his performance

[@ella-lr2jb]

don't forget a tony now

[@lisasu7094]

the oscar IS the academy award lol

[@blairnikayla7753]

Give Austin abrams all of it ❤️😩

[@ShelbyTaylorExists]

#EGOTForEthan

[@hearsae]

i like how you listed everything EXCEPT a tony which is the theatre award 😭

[@angelashinner]

Nate is deeply terrified of ending up like his dad I think because of being traumatized as a kid watching those tapes. But also his deepest fear I think is being in the place of one of the guys he had sex with. That’s also why he’s so unwilling to accept his sexuality and has this long list of all the girly things he likes about girls and the boyish behaviors he hates girls doing.

[@gabriellaroxann]

it’s funny how when cassie stormed out nate left her alone but when nate did cassie had to run after him😭

[@lilyoshea2018]

Btw fez getting ready was before the play even started,the time line was all different.So basically during the play something will happen to fez or ashtray we don’t know yet tho

[@RackCityBunny]

they didn't convey that well imo

[@maggg8450]

Thank you, I was so confused

[@caitlincourtney293]

He really had his suit pressed and everything:(

[@isae1783]

i love how the entire crowd cheered after the football part of the play, like how are you NOT the problem when everyone agrees with a parody of you 💀

[@blackvelvetbabi6692]

Everyone cheering was wrong for cheering majority means nothing. This just proves that people don't know homophobia when they see it. Lexi just proved us that she is no better than her sister.

[@meyekeye6283]

@@blackvelvetbabi6692 I don’t think it was homophobic lol????? Like it was literally a satirical portrayal of toxic masculinity and macho dudes who are homophobic. They were literally playing characterchures of those those type of guys.

[@blackvelvetbabi6692]

@@meyekeye6283 toxic masculinity doesnt make someone gay. Closet gays sometimes project their anger. Nothing about that part of the play was portraying homophobia and homophobic men. It was homophobic in itself and disgusting. And not funny at all. And irrelevant.

[@perfectblue3]

cassie started doing the "anime characters when they finally lose it" look at the end

[@jaylaalle5827]

cassie is yandere confirmed!

[@idek5]

We just need a fisheye lens shot lol

[@lycgami]

i agree with aaron's statement, the jacob men may be AWFUL but they have some the most interesting stories on the show

[@lbierman21]

100%! To make the audience hate you but want to know what the hell happened with you is difficult but the actors play it so well!

[@prieltheprune1302]

@Tinker Belle agree so much! I love rue and fez the most tho

[@nolol7236]

on that one cal on top of nate thing. unless sam levinson shows us a whole presentation saying that was sa, it's best not to assume outright that it was that. euphoria uses a shit ton of allegorical elements in its sequences (especially for their dream or high sequences). personally, i took it more as how cal and his tapes severely affected nate's sexual experiences to the point where him having sex with jules or him even acknowledging his own sexuality makes him think of his dad's own sexual experiences and stuff. also how nate and cal have similarities in how they treat the women they have been with and it shows nate's hypocrisy because now that he's the one receiving in the dream, it's all terrible and cold sweat. funny how losing his position of power in sex scares him when he's constantly abusing the power he has as a man over his lover. a lot to talk about in that whole nate dream sequence but i just think it's important to point out that story element because i've seen people take it at face value when euphoria is not a show to be taken at face value.

[@whywhywhy8117]

I think people keep going down this path of thinking that Nate is actually gay or something along those lines which I honestly do not see. I think he had a traumatic experience with his father and that led to an unhealthy obsession with needing to be this alpha male type figure and having power over other people, and also having a strong rejection to anything that could be perceived as gay.

[@a.j.1819]

@@whywhywhy8117 Completely agree. Literally nothing implies that Nate is gay. MAYBE his attraction to Jules, which technically doesn't count because she is female identifying/representing.

[@cameronbrunet8451]

@@whywhywhy8117 The only thing is he had a bunch of dicks on his phone from other guys on grindr. People who try to say he's gay/bi just because he's attracted to jules are simply transphobic

[@katykat978]

@@whywhywhy8117 I only think possible bisexuality because of the dick pics. Not a lot of straight men out there have a file of dick pics.

[@samiapple9889]

rue said in season one that cal never touched nate so it was definitely allegorical and them trying to be artsy

[@Lake_Liminal]

"they were besties... now they're not-sies" almost made me spit out my water

[@nina__serafina]

so to summarize some of the things that just seem out of place: 1) the nightmare where Nate is in the same position as Jules represents how Cal still has some Nate in a metaphorical chokehold. 2) The scene where Lexi and Cassie were in the car is the same from season 1 but instead of Cassie's perspective (which was much more optimistic) Lexi was traumatized. Cassie craves male validation so it's makes sense why she wanted to get in the car and why Lexi didn't want to. 3) The scene with Leslie and Rue (to me at least as someone who has family members that were addicts) wasn't so much as an ultimatum but more just being blunt.

[@euryvices]

I think the entire Cal and Nate scene seems to be hinting at something...well, abusive. Remember how his mom said something changed when he turned 8-9? Well, Rue tells us in Ep 6 (I think) that he never found the tapes till he was about 11-ish. I think the whole car scene explanation is exactly on point. Cassie always has needed male validation in her life, and gurllll do I pity her. Another thing I noticed in this episode was how Ashtray carried a knife in the room. Maybe nothing happens, cause ma baby Ash is there!! (on an unrelated note, are Aaron and Jo dating? I'm so sorry if that seems offensive, it's just something I picked up, kinda. God, I hope this doesn't get deleted TvT )

[@nina__serafina]

@@euryvices Aaron and Jo are just friends

[@20000dino]

You're taking your own interpretation of the nightmare as if it was fact - when it isn't. Both yours and @Zafirah Javed's interpretations are very plausible, we just have to wait and see which side Sam Levinson takes the story to. However, two things can be true at the same time, and I personally believe both interpretations to be possibly true. As a side note, however, beyond Cal having Nate in a metaphorical chokehold, I think it also represents how Nate has an inner-layer of deep-seated shame (something which, by the way, often happens to victims of sexual trauma in childhood), and is terribly afraid of becoming everything he hates (aka his dad, the one who possibly abused him).

[@bigmastermind1]

You guys fumbled the bag by not reviewing each episode separately.

[@zeeo3147]

Fr

[@spookyroxy1370]

Exactly what i thought but happy they still posted this one and probably episode 8

[@fifi8690]

fr cuz i see other youtubers reactions to it get soo many views

[@nexus7512]

I feel like maybe if they did something like that they'd get copyrighted? Idk glad to receive content either way tho

[@prieltheprune1302]

Literally?!!

[@valeria2989]

ethan deserves an oscar for playing all those roles

[@jennahkhazaal]

ethan is an icon, a legend and he IS the moment. no one can top his performance

[@rue...whenwasthis]

Ethan put his whole ethnussy into that dance performance

[@eilir_adron]

ethnussy 🥵

[@edithputhy4948]

Ethanussy cause he snapped and obliterated the world

[@PizzaHutCEO]

Ethnussy 💀💀

[@leae3750]

Who tfs Ethan

[@rue...whenwasthis]

@@leae3750 the guy who was playing nate in lexi's play

[@viola7052]

I think Rue's mom is trying a different approach to get through to Rue but it might also be that she's tired/drained of dealing with her and she's letting her know. I don't like that she told Rue she wouldn't care if she killed herself though, I don't think that's right to say to someone who's suicidal especially your child. But I sympathize with Rue's mom too.

[@limerysmouse6005]

Yeah there’s also a level of accountability you have to take as a parent when you have a mentally ill child. Whether it be genetics or a child’s environment, we are all products of how we are raised. Leslie chose to have a child, there are always consequences to that, good or bad.

[@mesquelch]

I think Rues mom has just realized that she can’t want more for Rue than Rue wants for herself. With addiction, the addict has to WANT to get better in order to stay sober. I think she has identified that she has tried to get her to that point for so long, but now it’s time for Rue to do what they both know needs to happen. I think she’s definitely drained, but I didn’t find that to be the main thing she was meaning through her talking to her, and also don’t think it’s her being ok with Rue killing herself. I think she has just realized that she can’t drain herself and neglect her other child in the process trying to get Rue to realize that.

[@ccccccc9632]

From a personal experience, its the worst feeling when your mom says she doesn't care if you'd kill yourself. I understand her perspective, but it's just not right

[@didimay9]

To be fair, unless I missed this, Rue's mum didn't say she wouldn't care if Rue killed herself. Obviously she would be devastated beyond words. That's her child. I think she was just trying a different approach with the situation. She sent her to rehab once and that didn't work. And then in the previous episode, she BEGGED the rehab to make space for Rue but they couldn't. So what more can she do? Lock her in her room forever? She's probably at a loss and maybe this is the only approach she hasn't tried yet. Rue's not just being some rebellious teen, she's literally a drug addict. Her mum can't change that. Rue's ultimately gonna make her own decisions with that shit, good or bad. And I think it's good/healthy for her mum to accept that, no matter how painful it is.

[@tink6225]

she was speaking in a way she knew would reach her own daughter. just cuz you would feel bad about your mom saying that doesnt mean rue would

[@lbierman21]

Cassie saying nothing is more beautiful than dedicating yourself to love and Jo not hesitating "To Nate Jacobs" and laughs hahaha perfect

[@meli1872]

i think rues mom FINALLY caring about hee youngest daughter who she neglected for rue, and finally letting rue know that her actions have fucked up the other daughter is a good thing

[@jaylaalle5827]

cassie breathing through the window seething…. she’s a lot like joker from the movie joker 😭

[@sabrinagamboa5084]

i think the cal and nate scene was one of two possibilities. either that was a memory and it’s revealed that nate was sa or that was always a fear of his. idk tho but all i know is legit screamed when i saw it

[@kosiqueensly4506]

Yup, I was looking for some high quality content to watch. Great timing

[@summerwest124]

no seriously 🥰🍃

[@koosje4885]

Aaron, the Fez impression was spot on

[@pennify2079]

1:54 “Why are we looking at this” “This frame has being going on for 5 minutes” classic overture moment.

[@abgailforce]

THANK YOU for bringing up the pacing issues. I stared at overture for what felt like 10 minutes and it ended up being 55(?)ish seconds

[@eilir_adron]

i think maybe that was meant to be like a reference to old movie and play intros or something i agree that the pacing is off

[@MultiGreenG]

But that's literally what an overture is... It's usually at the beginning of a play and you listen to an orchestral song before the play starts... -_-

[@abgailforce]

@@MultiGreenG ooh. That makes sense my bad i was very confused lol. Thanks for the info!

[@MultiGreenG]

@@abgailforce no problem 😊

[@jjwsvtk9987]

Damnn would’ve been dope to see an episode 5 reaction

[@zeeo3147]

Right I was thinking the same

[@harrisonm132]

That burn CD's joke at 11:04 might be the best joke Aaron's made

[@marktuanentertainment1180]

THE CAL AND NATE SCENE THREW ME OFFFFF. Some people saw it as that Cal possibly SA'd Nate when Nate was younger which is why he totally switched from innocent to what he is now. I am not too sure though.

[@carolinpurayidom4570]

Physically not but mentally kind of

[@autumnmusic22]

I think what made him switch was when he discovered his dad's tapes. I don't think he was SA'd, but I do think how he views sex and his sexuality has been warped or very much effected by the discovery of his dad's tapes and how he had to keep that a secret. I do find it weird he kept watching them throughout the years, so there may be something in that.

[@ashleytermaat3923]

When Cassie was breathing on the window she looked like the hot fish from sharktales

[@hollyspree]

I think Leslie's reaction and words to Rue were harsh but definitely valid. She has tried and tried and tried to do everything for Rue and has been helpless to Rue's decisions, which have hurt their entire family. I think she's giving that responsibility back to Rue (like Jo said) and allowing herself to let go of some of the weight that she had been trying to carry for Rue.

[@kaitlynm9463]

Validity doesn’t excuse. It’s a reason but that shit was the opposite of productive.

[@GamesAhoy]

@@kaitlynm9463 well ever since the conversation, rue has been sober then on top of that: Gia is also there. She is a child. Rue made her decision. Leslie has a choice to help one daughter fix her life and let the other continue on with the choice that they made for the past years

[@arielm227]

proud of you guys i knew you would like it

[@Danielaw2002]

I think we all can agree that after an episode like this, we JUST have to see more of ethan

[@emmabudriss5826]

euphoria high science club ain't got no money cuz lexi embezzling funds

[@whywhywhy8117]

LMFAO

[@lilxamryn]

y’all’s reaction to cal popping up in the nightmare is exactly how i reacted. i didn’t know how to process it for awhile… i kinda still don’t know how lmfao.

[@hannahluv24]

im glad rue's mom told her that. The thing with drug addicts is that they will rarely every make the choice to get clean if they still have good things they can take advantage of. Rue needs to experience what it is like to lose everything, including her mom's support, before she can genuinely make the decision to get clean or not.

[@kaitlynm9463]

Yes but unfortunately despite being valid, was still not the best nor most productive way to say that. It ended up just as cruel as it was “eye-opening”. None of you seem to have experience with child development, addiction, or suicide (Professionally/academically, not just “experience”) and I feel like y’all should really abstain from the discussion so we don’t perpetuate the idea that this was “ideal” in execution

[@hannahluv24]

@@kaitlynm9463 my cousin was an addict. i have friends who are addicts. i’m also in college studying psychology and addiction takes up an enormous chunk of it. so it’s safe to say I have experience with this topic. just because rue is an addict, does not mean everyone around her has to step on eggshells and accommodate to her sensitivity. drug addicts will take advantage of everything good they have, especially kindness, support, and love. her mom said what needed to be said, and it wouldn’t have any effect on rue had she sugarcoated it. rue needs to understand just how much her addiction has affected the people around her, and her mom showed her that by telling her she’s basically given up on her. That rue’s addiction is so lethal to not only her, but to the care, love, and compassion the people around her have for her. she’s at a point in her addiction where she needs to lose everything, including her mothers support, to truly make the decision to get clean. And i’m not saying this is the case for all addicts, some of them are able to get clean with that support. But there’s also a lot of them who are so deep into their addiction, that there is no choice left but for them lose everything good they have to genuinely want to be sober.

[@thisisvoided]

@@hannahluv24 but rue is suicidal but ALSO mentally ill. you never tell somene you dont care that they might die. I struggle with sh and depression and if i heard that from my mom, id die

[@hannahluv24]

@@thisisvoided i’ve been thru the same shit. its risky to say, but the addict part of rue is more lethal than the depressed side of her. she got clean didn’t she? i’ve seen this stuff up close. sometimes people need to get their feelings hurt. i hear you, i do. but rue needed to hear that in order to get clean and i stand by that.

[@summerwest124]

btw fez getting ready was before the play started; meaning he never got the chance to leave the house. 🥺

[@The2cute4uok]

So about the Rues mom scene, it's about how Ali saying "she (gia) has been waiting on it (to be loved)" pretty much pointing out she's been neglecting Gia when stressing about Rue. That spoke to her and made her realize that Gia too has been suffering and she has to make the choice to fighting a loosing battle with Rue or support Gia aswell. She decided to be upfront with Rue about it, saying Rue is finally about to be grown and live with her decisions

[@itsverooo]

"the whole crowd seeing a whole 😺 right now" AARON-

[@TheeKittyPie]

7:55 being hyped for the potential fight only to realize it’s a gut wrenching scene is so real lmao

[@soho6435]

When Aaron said ' the whole crowd is seeing a whole pu$$y right now bro ' I SCREAMED LMAO

[@ADTYG02]

Nate’s mom said “something happened when you were like 9 and you become such an evil little boy and you despised your father”. That scene with his Dad was surely the reveal that his father did something to him, which lines up since they said when Nate was 12 was when he found the CD’s. …… or since it’s Euphoria it’s some weird metaphor for something completely random lol

[@CYBELE.I0]

I thought it's probably bcoz he saw those cd's when he was young. I don't remember exactly they mentioned what age he found out. Like you said, if something happen to him that's f*cked up😬🤕 poor Nate

[@a.j.1819]

I'ma need yall to learn how to think. Nothing ever implied anything like that. He "freaked out" when he was on top of him because he hates him, he's disguted by him, he was literally having a breakdown. Yall act like seeing your dad's pornos at 11 year old isn't enough to mess up a child. And most importantly, it was NEVER implied that Cal is pedophilic. Just because he likes twinks and 17/18 year olds doesn't mean he's attracted to actual children. Yall just running with it is incredible insensitive and ignorant to what actual pedophilia is. If the mom was referring to something other than him finding the tapes, it could be something involving the third son we saw in the family portrait.

[@bigbro6446]

If it was a metaphor I don’t think it was random, I assumed it was Nate thinking that he’s becoming his father, he mentally abuses people and is sexually aggressive while keeping non consensual imagery of people. In some aspect what he did to Jules could be looked like he 1 upped his dad like it was a competition, Cal did raise both his sons to compete against each other in some ways, I think that was mentioned in season 1.

[@seandougherty5145]

@@a.j.1819 You take this show wayyyyyyy too seriously, As a victim myself, I took it exactly how the original commentator did, where it may be right or wrong, people are allowed to have differing opinions on things that aren’t concrete, no need to be so aggressive.

[@eilir_adron]

@@a.j.1819 dude calm down they're just theories

[@liveinluv]

Why did I really love Aaron and Jo parodying Genie in The Bottle🤣🤣 Also I love that Lexie and Cassie's mom was having a great time watching the play

[@britpopwh0ree486]

still in shock from ethan’s iconic performance

[@ashleyrojas3695]

I think rue definitely needed to hear what her mom said to her for her to finally want to live

[@ambientsentient]

4:50 But Aaron’s impersonation of Fez was spot oooon😭

[@Becksmusik3]

You guys always come in clutch at the perfect times. My birthday, and pretty much every shitty day I have you always make it better, thanks guys :)

[@AaronandJo]

Happy birthday!

[@HorrorDiva01]

Omg can't wait to see them react to the play, it was amazing!

[@sophiaisabelle027]

And so we have another Euphoria episode reaction. This whole show is absolutely wild to the core. Don't get me started on what Rue did or what Cassie did or what Nate did. They've both been in crazy situations themselves this season. Thanks for keeping up with this, Aaron & Jo! Your content is truly top-notch! Keep it up!

[@luisz222]

It’s hard for me to sympathize with Nate he’s just genuinely a horrible person.

[@maggie3842]

I feel sorry for him sometimes but more in a "go to jail, get a therapist and sort out your fucking life because you're hurting everyone around you" way. He's a human being... just a shitty one

[@luisz222]

@@maggie3842 i get what you’re saying but like when it comes to him I can’t root for him ever and when he gets mad at the play I don’t feel bad for him at all.

[@eilir_adron]

@@maggie3842 exactly

[@adorablewaffles9818]

@@luisz222 same here honestly. I read comments earlier that were like “Lexi was so horrible for humiliating Nate like that” and I’m like?!?!? Did you forget what Nate has been doing for two whole seasons?! He doesn’t deserve sympathy

[@maggie3842]

@@luisz222 dude me neither, he deserves a lot worse than that play. He’s traumatized as hell but also, as a wise woman once said: Fuck Nate Jacobs!

[@uxniaz]

hey besties glad youre on the euphoria train now👼🏻

[@haley5735]

"they used to be besties for life... now they're not-sies" 😭 LMFAOO

[@mellamobrittney]

🎶 Throw away the bottle, put down the MDMA 👏🏽😂

[@NinaGriffi]

I get so hype every time you upload and i make all my friends watch it with me hahaha

[@dubstepgirl28]

7:25 look I don’t know anything about these characters… but my mom used to say “if you wanna kill your self/do drugs/be reckless then go ahead and do it” and it always came off as guilt tripping, shaming, and lack of caring. It’s the kind of emotional manipulation I always hated. I don’t think ANYBODY deserves that kind of talk regardless of what they have done. A parent should be kind and supportive of their child when they need help. Shaming and guilting makes the worthlessness increase ten fold.

[@Kensky12]

"they were besties for life, now they're.. notsie's.. what" LMAO

[@randohuman5084]

There's no way this play would have been approved at my school.

[@maria-ie6zd]

nate calling something homophobic like the call isn’t coming from inside the house😭😭

[@blackvelvetbabi6692]

What?

[@jaxj968]

💀

[@jasperq5]

literally watching this while I’m getting ready to go to top golf so I was actually freaked out to hear “is the food good at top golf” outta no where

[@taylor897]

Every episode i think cassie has reached rock bottom but she just gets worse and worse man

[@maria-ih4vx]

rue's mom was valid for saying what she said , now it comes the time rue got decide for herself if she wants to be clean or not and the mom have to take care of gia , ali told her last episode "let rue be rue and shower the younger one with love" , gia have been left aside too long and the mom got do what she got do to have at least one of her kids

[@sillygooseygirl]

There is not a school board in this country that would EVER approve of that play.

[@whitneyd6827]

I got to watch the first season but not the second, so you guys are really carrying me here lol. Thanks for the laughs as always

[@meli1872]

SECOND SEASON IS SO MUCH BETTER PLS WATCH IT

[@aquagirl1118]

@@meli1872 no it’s not..😭

[@SeizingJday]

I actually really liked the pacing of this episode! Have it more suspense and interweaved recent/ concurrent events in with the play in a way i haven't seen before

[@Fran-le5pk]

TW: S/A I've not watched euphoria so correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure previously it's been implied that nate is a CSA survivor from his dad. I saw someone say this on Twitter, but dreams like like that are common amongst those who are survivors of CSA as a result of PTSD.

[@mslizzieforbes]

And include the change in Nate at age of like nine when he didn’t find the cds until 12 he was definitely molested by cal

[@stefanymendes5135]

Yes but not physical abuse. He was exposed to violent porn from a very young age and, I don't know where you guys are from but in my country, that's also a form of S/A.

[@a.j.1819]

Literally nothing ever implied that Cal had pedophilic tendencies. Going for young adults/late teens doesn't mean he would do the same to CHILDREN. Yall act like Nate finding those videos at a young age wouldn't be enough to make him disturbed by and/or afraid of his dad.

[@Marina-cq2yt]

@@a.j.1819 it's the fact that mate found the tapes at 11 years old and nates mom said he darkened and stopped kissing his father at nine years old - that combined with the vision of his father on top of him COULD suggest that SOMETHING happened. It could also just be unrelated. But nothing in this show is ever random, I feel. Nates conversation with his mom left much to be considered.

[@a.j.1819]

@@Marina-cq2yt Rue is an unreliable narrator so it doesn't have to actually have been at 11 years old. If it was something else, it could be something involving the third son we haven't been introduced to. Once again, Cal never showed any signs of pedophilia. Apparently none of you are aware that there is a huge difference between being attracted to young adults/late teens (17-18) and ACTUAL CHILDREN let alone your own son. Like do you realize what you're saying ? Nate's dream incluced Cassie, Jules & Maddy. All three he's felt sexual attraction towards. Sexual attraction is to him, thanks to Cal, something dark and threatening, something to dominate someone else with. That's why Nate can't seperate sexuality and the fear of/disgust by his dad.

[@uksalads]

Aaron and Jo’s hair glow up’s always impress me

[@kaxidoscope]

That Cal/Nate scene is showing either 1. Nate feeling controlled by his dad 2. Nate is putting himself in Jule’s shoes because he’s in love with her Or 3. He feels sexually attracted to his dad And I’m hoping to god it’s not number 3.

[@aa-xy4hg]

or he was abused as a kid

[@rollercoaster8881]

Or the Worst number 4. The one Marsha did not wanted to say when she was drinking/ talking with Nate in past episodes

[@NinaGriffi]

i love you guys, my favorite channel

[@melissadavis18]

y'all reaction to Nate's nightmare was the best!

[@ingridgoh5267]

i woke up this morning just to see your upload and i cried IM SO HAPPY

[@moo2657]

I think the reasoning on why Rues mom said that to her was understandable and valid. I mean Rues drug addiction has clearly affected Gia a lot and she’s sick of only focusing on Rue and her sobriety when Rue doesn’t really try to get sober but at the same time....Rue is only 17, she’s still a kid and I think her mom just threatening her and basically saying that when she’s 18 she’ll kick her out and that she can go ahead and kill herself and that she doesn’t care anymore because she’s only gonna focus on Gia was....cruel and Rue suffers from other stuff like it’s not just her drug addiction but she does have other mental disorders and has repeatedly said that she wants to kill herself and that she can’t stand living and you can tell she does have a lot of guilt in her heart about everything and I can’t even imagine how hurt she must have been after hearing something like that. Her feelings are valid but the way she went about it was harsh and I think it would have been better if she sat down with Rue and said that she needs to start thinking about Gia more and I get she was probably tryna do the whole tough love thing but come on....I think people keep forgetting that Rue is a still a kid, I wish people would empathise with her more I mean imagine being a suicidal 17 year old child with a crippling drug addiction and multiple different mental disorders and you still haven’t properly processed your fathers death and it affects you and your mental state a lot and your own mother is like yeah you can kill your self I’m pretty much giving up on you LIKE I’d be crushed but at the same time it’s understandable since Rue doesn’t want help and doesn’t want to help herself and there’s only so much someone can do to help someone who doesn’t want to be helped but it’s still hurtful and harsh to say stuff like that to your own child

[@garrettdeppe]

LMAO IM SO EXCITED FOR YOUR REACTIONS

[@Pnutbttr]

With the moms comments. My dad did the same thing. From my pov at the time it felt awful. Almost like he was giving up on me. But how that I’m a little older I definitely see where he was coming from and his intentions. There are plenty of other options than saying “u wanna kys go ahead” as a child it definitely fucks with you, I even struggle to this day a little but you just have to remind your self that it was never literal.

[@annelieseo3401]

No, Rue’s mom did the right thing. When you know someone with an addiction, they have to get better on their own and sometimes you need to let go for your own well-being as well as the other people around the addict. Sometimes you’ve done all you can do, and you have to let go of them. People don’t want to get better until they’ve hit rock bottom a lot of the time.

[@ifayee]

NOOO BECUASE I NEED YALL TO DO EPISODE 8 WHEN IT COMES OUT- unironically the most entertaining creators HAHAHAHAHAH

[@shereenhazareh8601]

THIS EPISODE WAS ICONICCC lexi is amazing

[@Matthew_BKG]

The pacing issues are glaring if you don't look at it through the lens of 'It's meant to make you feel like you're high', cause I watched it sober and had the same thought about pacing, but then I smoked a shit ton of weed and the show became one of my top 5s ever in record time.

[@kleann5577]

I love that y'all are into euphoria now

[@hayleejade412]

i’m so glad you guys like it and are caught up !!

[@bigmexicana]

I love u guys ❤seriously.. I’m going through a breakup & u guys always cheer me up 🥲

[@coldestsprite1467]

the one time aaron's plea to see someone die aged like fucking milk😭😭😭

[@badaboop2035]

i think the mom is trying to say that no one else can force you to want to change, you have to want it for yourself

[@amyanderson6861]

I think the Kal and Nate scene is a representation on how Nate is affected by watching Kals tapes, that he maybe relates to the victims. the scene just visually shows that he feels like the victim with his dad using him, messing him up. Idk if I worded it correctly but yeah, I feel like that’s what it means, not that he was actually SA but mentally through the tapes

[@viola7052]

I personally think Nate was SA’d by his dad. It was kind of implied in episode 6 when his mom said he started to change/become darker at around 8/9 but we know from season 1, Nate saw the tapes at 11 so it wasn't that. She also says he would kiss her goodnight before bed but he didn't kiss his dad which is weird for a young child and weird she pointed it out unless she was hinting at something. I saw on Twitter someone saying that Nate had such a strong reaction to his dad touching him/being on top of him in season 1, in that episode when he freaks out after wrestling with his dad and it was probably a flashback/PTSD reaction to being abused. I hope we actually find out what happened to him because this show can be very surreal/confusing.

[@a.j.1819]

I'ma need yall to learn how to think. Nothing ever implied anything like that. He "freaked out" when he was on top of him because he hates him, he's disguted by him, he was literally having a breakdown. Yall act like seeing your dad's pornos at 11 year old isn't enough to mess up a child. And most importantly, it was NEVER implied that Cal is pedophilic. Just because he likes twinks and 17/18 year olds doesn't mean he's attracted to actual children. Yall just running with it is incredible insensitive and ignorant to what actual pedophilia is. If the mom was referring to something other than him finding the tapes, it could be something involving the third son we saw in the family portrait.

[@Marina-cq2yt]

1000%. I've seen this theoru floating around, there's ni way it ain't canon. Ibland more Nate, more July's and more Kat for next season. I'd say more Rue because she's my fave but I know we'll get a lot of Rue.

[@Tuncapoo]

@@a.j.1819 why does he hate him and is disgusted by him?

[@viola7052]

@@a.j.1819 I think you need to read between the lines more, it’s not that far fetched for a man who has sex with high school kids and has other predatory sexual habits (like filming people without their consent) to be a pedophile as well. I don’t see how taking about the reality of childhood sexual abuse is insensitive in any way…if anything, this is starting a dialogue about something that people like to ignore/brush under the rug. Anyway, this is a television show, it’s art meaning it’s open to interpretation…unless you’re Sam Levinson, your predictions are just as accurate/inaccurate as mine.

[@a.j.1819]

@@viola7052 Oh my god, I need to you educate yourself on what pedophilia is, for the love of god. Yes, it is INCREDIBLY far fetched to assume someone attracted to young adults would be attracted to CHILDREN. Jules and the other guys we saw on the tapes were adults, young adults, but adults over the age of 18. Remember Jules lied about being older, Cal didn't know. Pedophiles DO NOT seek out sex with adults. Pedophiles are attracted to children up to the age of 11, pre-pubescent and underdeveloped. Do you see how that is absolutely not the same as being attracted to 18 year olds ? YOU need to read between the lines: Nate seing those tapes at 11 completely messed up his view on sex and sexuality. His nightmare included Jules, Cassie & Maddie, all three he feels sexual attraction towards. Now thanks to his trauma, what does Nate associate sexuality with ? His dad. That combined with feeling dominated by and controlled by his dad manifests as him seeing himself under his dad, submissive.

[@happytanoya5082]

Lexie Deserves an Oscar for the play😭

[@meli1872]

i love how i took u guys so long to realise fez wasnt let cause he was buttoning his shirt, that scene took place before the play, and he never made it to the play cause sumn bad happened, like he got arrested for the murder of mouse or whateva

[@okayyxemm]

I am so glad episode 7 was the one they decided to commentate on cause boy was it a good episode, that musical ate

[@naomiruiz30]

One thing I wanted to mention is that Leslie's conversation with Rue was a flashback to the night Ali came over (the timeline was a bit confusing to me up until they showed Maddy confronting Cassie). Because he told Leslie to look after Gia and let Rue figure her shit out on her own. Hence Leslie being blunt with Rue about whether or not she decides to take her recovery seriously this time.

[@user-op2bh7rc9z]

YALL are who this show is for, now I get it.

[@VanaMts]

2:23 casey frey REFERENCE okay u earned a fan for life

[@hannahrae6766]

the adam and eve sponsorship we love that

[@NatFallsAlot]

yayyyyy been waiting on this one

[@vphoria4688]

the beginning frame is the overture its the orchestra you hear at the beginning of a play or opera, really neat that they put that since the entire ep is lexis play!!!! also can we talk about sydneys (cassie) acting! it was amazing shes coming for that emmy, i cant hate faye i just cant but hopefully she does the right thing, also the way that jules appears in every fantasy/dream nate has, that man is obsessed!!!!

[@RebelRedd]

I love your Cowboy Bebop shirt !!! WHERE DID YOU GET IT !!!!

[@urboygian]

"they were besties for life. now they're... notsies--wait what?"

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

The killing joke, twin peaks poster and cowboy bebop shirt

[@lizmarrin8676]

mom is valid she is trying every angle possible to make rue help herself same thing rue did to try and get the suitcase she flipped the emotions to try and appeal to what they want/need to hear. she loves her daughters so much but theres only so much a person can handle

[@cassielj]

Ive been waiting for you to make a part 2 lmao l love your videos