Eurocircuits - how to make a 4-layer PCB (full version)

  Рет қаралды 523,770

Eurocircuits

Eurocircuits

Күн бұрын

There is a newer version available on Vimeo - vimeo.com/201542361
We have made this film to help electronics engineering students understand how a PCB is made.
By understanding the manufacturing process you will be able design PCBs that can made more easily and cheaply. Designing boards that fit within industry standard specifications gives you two advantages: you keep down the cost of your end product, so that it will sell better; and you improve its long-term reliability, so that your customers will keep on coming back to you. And when you want to push the boundaries of technology (and who doesn't?) you can sit down with your chosen board manufacturer and discuss your requirements knowing where he is coming from.

Пікірлер: 227
@derekn615
@derekn615 9 жыл бұрын
You just helped a California, Computer Engineering Freshman pass a test.... GREAT VIDEO!!!
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 8 жыл бұрын
34 people watching this video have probably never made a DIY circuit board. Watching this video make the process look really easy but it takes a lot of technology to make these kind of boards. Thank you for this informative film.
@LittleRainGames
@LittleRainGames 5 жыл бұрын
Its not that hard, im designing very low cost tools/machines to make industry standard PCB's so anyone can make ones like this.
@Crazytesseract
@Crazytesseract 5 жыл бұрын
now they are 85 people.
@doogulass
@doogulass 10 жыл бұрын
This was a very instructive video...thanks! Everybody who designs a circuit board should watch this.
@samuelchamberlain2584
@samuelchamberlain2584 10 жыл бұрын
Having etched p.c.b's for though hole components . I recognise this is an entirely different ball game . I have often wondered how multilayer boards are made . This has provided a good insight
@Pitbuller49
@Pitbuller49 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, as a trainee electronics engineer this has given me better knowledge of how the PCBs work.
@brianhead1907
@brianhead1907 9 жыл бұрын
Great video !!! I'll try this out tomorrow...thanks for the upload.
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 11 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thanks for putting this together and posting it.
@royceaquino
@royceaquino 6 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing! I enjoyed the process.
@davidespano8674
@davidespano8674 11 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, very informative and detailed. I have been looking around for reputable PCB manufacturers catering for the needs of small to medium production volumes and EURO circuits is top-of-class. Thank you.
@davidespano8674
@davidespano8674 9 жыл бұрын
Extremely instructive video, definitely a bonus when having to decide who is best placed to actually build your design. Thanks.
@dattarammore689
@dattarammore689 Жыл бұрын
⁹⁹⁰
@dattarammore689
@dattarammore689 Жыл бұрын
9⁹⁰
@geraldaldana933
@geraldaldana933 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video. now I understand fully or definitely more than before broke it down to study.. Front end tool data preparation 2:34 extended gerbers Preparing the photo tool 3:51 Print inner layers 5:09 Etched inner layers 7:08 Register punch and automatic optical inspection (AOI) 8:11 Lay-up and Bond 9:02 Drilling the PCB 11:32 Drilling and profiling machine Electroless copper deposition 14:26 Image the outer layers 16:01 Plating 17:58 25 microns copper Etch outer layer 20:15 Apply solder mask 21:35 Rohs compliant surface finishes electroless gold over nickel 24:14 Plated gold edge connectors :25:50 hard electroplated gold . Repeated inserted to connector request for hard plated gold. Siik screen and cure 27:08 10 min 5 stage conveyerized oven Electrictrical test 28:08 Profiling 28:58 router - v scored v-cut scoring 30:04 Final inspection 30:58
@rmacfamily
@rmacfamily 11 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been trying to make simpler PCBs at home with minimal success and, seeing how difficult it was, wondered what went into the real modern process. Great job presenting that. Well paced and very interesting.
@ShaunakDe
@ShaunakDe 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Very educational. :)
@frtnahuseyingoktas2977
@frtnahuseyingoktas2977 4 жыл бұрын
Instruction was perfect!
@scwallac
@scwallac 10 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video!
@Pieh0
@Pieh0 9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for making this.
@Murderface666
@Murderface666 9 жыл бұрын
unbelievable process :)
@Diegoroma70
@Diegoroma70 8 жыл бұрын
very interesting video! A must for every pcb designer!
@DoRC
@DoRC 7 жыл бұрын
man no wonder PCBs are so expensive. i had no idea it was such a hands on process.
@SpuriousEmission
@SpuriousEmission 10 жыл бұрын
I recognised a Circuit Automation DP1500 at Soldermask. I used these, amongst other machines in Prestwick Circuits at Irvine in Scotland. However we wore surgical gloves to keep fingerprints off of the uncovered copper.
@skay2293
@skay2293 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading the video. Nice one clear explanation
@voiceoftreason1760
@voiceoftreason1760 10 жыл бұрын
This is way better than How it's made
@Kabodanki
@Kabodanki 9 жыл бұрын
no idiotics puns at least
@rubber20021
@rubber20021 10 жыл бұрын
A wonderful presentation, quite labor involved as seen!
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@TheThore
@TheThore 9 жыл бұрын
Somebody who can pronounce "Aachen" correctly. Thumbs up ;)
@thoinguyenvan7934
@thoinguyenvan7934 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You so much for your video
@YoramRotbach
@YoramRotbach 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation
@aaa-hh8dv
@aaa-hh8dv 10 жыл бұрын
amazing factory o.o
@dorfschmidt4833
@dorfschmidt4833 9 жыл бұрын
Ich ziehe meinen Hut, das ist einfach großartig.
@HouseMusicLover001
@HouseMusicLover001 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@Paddington2000
@Paddington2000 10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks!
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@jessstuart7495
@jessstuart7495 2 жыл бұрын
0:37 He's living the dream.
@jbarragan
@jbarragan 10 жыл бұрын
Very good looking to the manufacture process, most engineers & designers just limit to design the PCB on the EDA tool and lave it to manufacture.
@snipersquad100
@snipersquad100 11 жыл бұрын
very interesting process
@cralx2k
@cralx2k 11 жыл бұрын
AMAZING
@krutikaborsaniya1773
@krutikaborsaniya1773 6 жыл бұрын
marvellous...
@iDarkBarrage
@iDarkBarrage 9 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for Ian Sanderson!!! Woot Woot EDCM
@electronic7979
@electronic7979 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@MrAshwindersingh
@MrAshwindersingh 6 жыл бұрын
Osm work need more videos
@SpuriousEmission
@SpuriousEmission 10 жыл бұрын
Also the Soldermask ink (Carapace or Taiyo) was hazardous, and best to avoid contact with skin.
@francisli5443
@francisli5443 7 жыл бұрын
very nice vedio, I am a beginner of PCB, beinfit a lot from it, need to review it again and again.
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@AlainMilardProd
@AlainMilardProd 11 жыл бұрын
beau film
@micflynn1
@micflynn1 7 жыл бұрын
I am wondering the board that was showed in this video, how much does it cost to have it made? is it just for large quantities or can a normal home brew person afford to have a board made?
@haoliu5358
@haoliu5358 10 жыл бұрын
very good
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen 10 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly elaborate process. Maybe laser cutting and directed vapor deposition could make for a better process.
@Demaflickers
@Demaflickers 9 жыл бұрын
can i order pcbs made using diptrace?..it has gerber outout data
@kirkguille
@kirkguille 9 жыл бұрын
Nice video. How many sq inch of 2 layers pcb can you make per day?
@Spacefish007
@Spacefish007 8 жыл бұрын
Really great video :) looks like a lot of work and a lot of steps.. If any of these go wrong, you need to throw away the board?
@haiweixiang2302
@haiweixiang2302 7 жыл бұрын
I LIKE THIS
@y2ksw1
@y2ksw1 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Could be more exhaustive upon certain procedures which are new to most people, such as how the layers stick and match together and how connections are made between layers, by providing still or animated pictures.
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 9 жыл бұрын
eurocircuits.com/pcb-prototype-and-small-batch-services/making-a-pcb-pcb-manufacture-step-by-step
@gigiogigi5148
@gigiogigi5148 7 жыл бұрын
Error 404 - page not found
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've seen several references to "hard gold plating" and just "Gold Plating," and had no clue what the difference is. Now I finally understand the difference. Is there a similar process difference/application for some kind of electroless silver plating versus a hard silver electrode-based plating?
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 5 жыл бұрын
We have not yet encountered silver plating for PCB. Would be more applicable for components/connectors. All we offer on finishing techniques can be found here: www.eurocircuits.com/blog/which-surface-finish-fits-your-design/ With a second chapter on hard gold connectors here: www.eurocircuits.com/blog/gold-plating-for-edge-connectors/
@johnwilliams2877
@johnwilliams2877 4 жыл бұрын
There is an Immersion Silver process for PCB finishes, along with Immersion Gold, Hot air solder level and OSP
@rethnagireeshwar7199
@rethnagireeshwar7199 9 жыл бұрын
nice :)
@unlokia
@unlokia 10 жыл бұрын
The narrator is obviously a hired voice-over artist with no electronics knowledge, as he refers to "leaded components" as if they were made of the *metal* lead, and not "leaded" as in "with a lead", pronounced "My dog is leaded on his lead"
@DrRawley
@DrRawley 9 жыл бұрын
That irked me too. :)
@attilaherrera6857
@attilaherrera6857 8 жыл бұрын
For the purposes of citing this video, who was the author or main contributors?
@user-qv1oj1jq4t
@user-qv1oj1jq4t 10 жыл бұрын
it is amazing ,as a chinese student,i hope that day which is we can equal usa in the field.
@multitechwalker
@multitechwalker 10 жыл бұрын
without blind holes?
@mohammedasadbubere6519
@mohammedasadbubere6519 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any internship opportunities?
@HoangNguyen-ks1tw
@HoangNguyen-ks1tw 10 жыл бұрын
please tell me 6.32-6.48, how to clean?....Na0H, or acide?
@yishujia186
@yishujia186 9 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why are multi-layer PCBs so expensive.
@HypherNet
@HypherNet 5 жыл бұрын
Oh how the times have changed. $30 for 5x 4-layer prototypes on JLCPCB. Plus shipping of course. But still, for about $50 you can have 5 4-layer boards in your hands in less than a week.
@theatreofshadows
@theatreofshadows 3 жыл бұрын
@@HypherNet There is more to life than monetary cost. Chinese pollution and geopolitical implications for one. Certainly I'd rather get a board from Europe and pay what I know will be a realistic cost for the workers to get decent wages and for the company to fulfil their legal and environmental obligations. There are lots of uncounted costs in artificially cheap products, which are harmful for us all.
@jonathanrodriguez8219
@jonathanrodriguez8219 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!
@NRBW
@NRBW 7 жыл бұрын
Are you able to do milling before plating so one gets an edge plated PCBs ( really nice for RF ) ?
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 7 жыл бұрын
Yes we can! PTH on the board edge, Copper up to the board edge and round-edge plating (the one you were referring to) are all interesting options for RF-specialists. They are in the calculator under advanced options: For RF applications we have a special pooling service: RF-pool: www.eurocircuits.com/rf-pool-all-the-benefits-of-pooling-on-rf-materials/
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@xierxu
@xierxu 4 жыл бұрын
How can I do this at home? I need clarity on what the purpose of the different layers.
@autechrak
@autechrak 4 жыл бұрын
go away
@RespawnRestricted
@RespawnRestricted 3 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between Gerber and extended Gerber
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 3 жыл бұрын
In short: extended Gerber embeds all apertures needed in each individual Gerber File. All you need to know about Gerber data: www.eurocircuits.com/gerber-format/
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
very informative video, but this looked like "small productions/batches" how does this process compare to say running 1.000.000 motherboards would that be the exact same steps or do they do something "easier" due to the massive volume? since this way seems "very slow" if you need a large volume of PCB's
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits Жыл бұрын
Sames process. More and some larger machines and more automation to produce big series. We make prototypes and small series and hence we do not automate too much to not loose flexibility. Turnaround time in our factory is in average less than 48 hours and for series this is 12 to 15 days.
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
@@eurocircuits which processeds do you do manually that a larger production would automate?
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits Жыл бұрын
@@LiLBitsDK Process steps? None. All are done by and in the same professional machines, whether you make prototypes or big series. Only proceeding from one machine to the next is highly automated in series production and not for prototypes as that leaves us the flexibility to switch priority at every single process step which is needed to reach all deadlines in time. For mass production this is not done and they work according "first in first out" throughout the entire process which brings flexibility down but handling costs also. Different kind of game: Prototypes / Series.
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
@@eurocircuits thank you very much for explaining :D it looks very impressive.
@GrubiBG
@GrubiBG 9 жыл бұрын
which gerber viewer/editor was used?
@johnwilliams2877
@johnwilliams2877 7 жыл бұрын
Ucam (Ucamco) I use it every day.
@studleylee
@studleylee 8 жыл бұрын
I have a ball chair like that too!!!
@KJ7JHN
@KJ7JHN 4 жыл бұрын
I realize this video is a bit dated, however the process is still mostly up to date. I have a question: for a 4-in x 6 pcb, it would cost me around 60 euros?? Do you offer price matching? A competitor has produced 5 pcb's with shipping for less than $35.00 US.
@KJ7JHN
@KJ7JHN 4 жыл бұрын
Also, what is the link for your online PCB software design tool? And does it export to SVG as well as gerber easily?
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but we do not negotiate nor divert from our official price calculator. I can advise you a European alternative if you wish: www.pcb4maker.com Apart from that we have recently published our oppinion on very cheap board prices www.eurocircuits.com/blog/reaction-on-some-extreme-chinese-prices/
@VentureGalaxy
@VentureGalaxy 11 жыл бұрын
very good commercial
@gargaste
@gargaste 11 жыл бұрын
This is for people WHO Ask me why a pcb is so expensive..there it is the answer..! It is a well controled process under a great infrastructure n a good quality system and that means money..moneey..it is not just like a small home shop..! This is for the pros..!
@davegeorge7094
@davegeorge7094 7 жыл бұрын
Can't figure 100micron bits not breaking after 20 holes! How many use LASER drills?
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@davegeorge7094
@davegeorge7094 3 жыл бұрын
@@NewsDozens No, I've never drilled 100mic, just seams glass would dull bit too quicky. thanks
@rklauco
@rklauco 8 жыл бұрын
Great work, although you need a better sound editor :(
@aaa-hh8dv
@aaa-hh8dv 10 жыл бұрын
amazinf factory, i wonder the use that circuit boards , some knows ?o.o
@RicardoATBarbosa
@RicardoATBarbosa 8 жыл бұрын
The silent parts are a little distracting, but the video is very good!
@baroque_engineer
@baroque_engineer 8 жыл бұрын
+Ricardo Barbosa I've fixed this by opening a smooth jazz album in a neighboring browser tab (web player). :)
@RicardoATBarbosa
@RicardoATBarbosa 8 жыл бұрын
+YS akaYSembed Very appropriate Sir!
@Dexter101x
@Dexter101x 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of effort to produce boards
@morganlouide6997
@morganlouide6997 7 жыл бұрын
very interesting video, but maybee need some drawings or animations to detail some processes
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 7 жыл бұрын
Normally you would start the series of films explaining the production process, from the website: www.eurocircuits.com/making-a-pcb-pcb-manufacture-step-by-step/ What you suggest to add is there already.
@sto2779
@sto2779 3 жыл бұрын
Trade secrets fully explained...
@broderp
@broderp 10 жыл бұрын
So this is was interesting. They keep saying economical, for students, universities etc. but never give a price for a any project. Please define cost effective. Do they do simple 2 layer or one layer boards? What about for the USA, do they ship to the US? Inquiring minds would like to know.
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 9 жыл бұрын
be.eurocircuits.com/shop/orders/configurator.aspx?loadfrom=web&lang=en&deliverycountry=us&invcountry=us&service=pcbproto
@Pigeon_FX
@Pigeon_FX 10 жыл бұрын
"on its way to HIM to be assembled into HIS finished product"
@0x4C4A
@0x4C4A 11 жыл бұрын
Not really clear how it makes blind vias.
@rongarza9488
@rongarza9488 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm, no mention of membranes, those nasty spongy switch surfaces. Maybe they don't do them because they hate them too.
@ShadoWDancerMKD
@ShadoWDancerMKD 7 жыл бұрын
Half-a-way old Machines Using Photo-films to exposure. Nowdays Lasers and CCDs are used to do such. Then, Gold Edge Connectors, Using Lamination process and exposure those panels with different dry film resist, where as hardening all copper spots except connectors.
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 7 жыл бұрын
Every video has a publishing date. Here is the newest version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imi2ZWN9jqqGmLs All direct imaging.
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@shaikferoz99088
@shaikferoz99088 5 жыл бұрын
Were good
@mlac2
@mlac2 10 жыл бұрын
What about NPTH?
@johnwilliams2877
@johnwilliams2877 10 жыл бұрын
The base laminate is drilled with tooling holes, this is then sensitized with a photo resist and a negative image of the circuit is exposed onto it using UV light. This hardens the resist where exposed and the image is developed to expose the unwanted copper. This is then etched off using (ammoniacal) etchant and the photoresist is stripped to expose the wanted copper. Add the solder mask, silk screen then the metal finish as usual. Finally profile the board with an NC router. (in a nutshell). Hope this helps!
@introprospector
@introprospector 3 жыл бұрын
Yo check out that unshielded incidental UV frying the operator's retinas @17:00
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 3 жыл бұрын
The yellow light coming from below (which you see at minute 17:00) is harmless and is just a help for the operator to positions the film and panels in the machine. The UV light operates inside the machine and is totally shielded from the outside of the machine. No retina's are fried. Some process knowledge is helpful to judge the safety of the process.
@introprospector
@introprospector 3 жыл бұрын
@@eurocircuits Compare to @22:44. That machine has a cover over the slot in the machine the pcb goes into. The first one has no such cover, and light can be seen leaking out. I tagged the mark for the issue timestamp just before the UV turns on, the actual moment is at about @17:06.
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 3 жыл бұрын
@@introprospector That is a bit of stray light, briefly coming out of the 2kW exposing unit for the dry film. The second machine is exposing soldermask with 8kW and for a longer time than a few seconds thus the stray light can have effect on the next panel being prepared by the operator, hence the cover. Both techniques are not used anymore for quite some time now as they are replaced by direct imaging machines which do not need film and boost the quality of the image and registration. Both can be seen in our newer movie: vimeo.com/201542361 Or here: www.eurocircuits.com/blog/how-do-we-expose-the-soldermask-during-production/
@Duraltia
@Duraltia 7 жыл бұрын
Hmm... At the beginning I was suspecting to see two double sided boards simply being bonded together with a separation layer in between. Not the process of an entire new layer being formed on both sides of the double sided board.
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 7 жыл бұрын
What you describe as "simply being bonded together" is the reverse build-up of a 4-layer and this is much more demanding in terms of registration than the traditional way of making a 4-layer. The reverse build-up is used for making blind vias in sequential build-up of a multi layer (2 x double sided board pressed to one 4-layer).
@johnwilliams2877
@johnwilliams2877 10 жыл бұрын
Ooops, error at 18:18 when he says carbon (not copper) layer already deposited there!
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@johnwilliams2877
@johnwilliams2877 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, used it for a few years. I found it to be better than Ucam10. All the scripts ran a treat. I liked it.
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnwilliams2877 ohh thx for your feedback John. but I need this software. Is possible are you able to share this software in my email-id(newsdozens@gmail.com)?
@johnwilliams2877
@johnwilliams2877 3 жыл бұрын
@@NewsDozens No sorry, it's a bespoke software for the PCB industry and you have to have a licence from Ucamco to run it (it's quite expensive too) besides which, I am now retired after some 40 years in the PCB industry. Sorry.
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnwilliams2877 okay anyhow thanks
@magicstix0r
@magicstix0r 9 жыл бұрын
"Lead is outlawed because of environmental concerns, so we use the far more toxic nickel!" Way to go Europe...
@MarianKeller
@MarianKeller 9 жыл бұрын
Lead wasn't replaced by Nickel...
@magicstix0r
@magicstix0r 9 жыл бұрын
Marian Keller Apparently you didn't watch the video.
@MarianKeller
@MarianKeller 9 жыл бұрын
magicstix0r No, I watched the video and also have experience in pcb-design. The topic you're talking about is the surface finish of the PCBs, where there are two common types: HASL and ENIG. The first means "hot air solder leveling", where the PCB is basically just dipped in molten solder and excess is removed by hot air. To be RoHS compliant, the solder must be lead-free. There are some alloys containing nickel, but those are rather uncommon. ENIG is a nickel-plating, protected against oxidisation by a thin gold layer. Wouldn't want to use lead instead.
@Landrew0
@Landrew0 9 жыл бұрын
magicstix0r When we stop using risk-assessment, and just use mindless risk-avoidance instead, nothing good results.
@oguretsagressive
@oguretsagressive 7 жыл бұрын
Aren't you confusing it with cadmium? Nickel is a lot less toxic than lead.
@TheMixmastamike1000
@TheMixmastamike1000 4 жыл бұрын
MORE THAN 50 LAYERS!!!!! 🤯
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 4 жыл бұрын
The maximum we do is 16 layers, but there are colleagues that go way beyond 50 layers. But these applications are exceptions. The bulk of industrial electronic applications are made from 2 to 8 layers.
@TheMixmastamike1000
@TheMixmastamike1000 4 жыл бұрын
Eurocircuits before this video I thought the maximum number of layers was 4
@bernardlim2888
@bernardlim2888 10 жыл бұрын
same process.... Drill the inner layer including blind vias and thruhole plating before laminating the outer layer.
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@nickpelov
@nickpelov 10 жыл бұрын
Well presented, but it's a bit pricey.
@torpedo35
@torpedo35 9 жыл бұрын
Védőálarc!
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@xXHacksAndTipsXx
@xXHacksAndTipsXx 9 жыл бұрын
Hmm I really don't think I oculd make these cause I don't have these machines, the video could be called How 4 layer PCB are made
@frankieboyo1969
@frankieboyo1969 8 жыл бұрын
Is that Prof Jim Al-Khalili narrating.
@FelixGardner
@FelixGardner 6 жыл бұрын
!!!!
@biltema2000
@biltema2000 10 жыл бұрын
00:46 wow that guy works slow
@NathanTheTall
@NathanTheTall 9 жыл бұрын
It looks like a painfully manual process. I wonder how much automation is in newer production lines.
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 9 жыл бұрын
Newer implies: what you see here is old :-) You are limping on the wrong foot here Nathan. A high degree of automation is typical for volume suppliers. We are a prototype and small series supplier and cannot afford this automation since that will kill the flexibility in the production flow. A flexibility that is needed to be able to make all these quick turnaround orders and deliver them on time. 2014, almost 80,000 orders and more than 98,5% on time deliveries within average delivery terms under 5 working days. www.eurocircuits.com/blog/181-Looking-back-at-2014
@Fennecbutt
@Fennecbutt 9 жыл бұрын
eurocircuits Wow, you pretty much attacked him for making an extremely reasonable statement. He didn't say anything about your company or attack you in any way.
@ftbtd
@ftbtd 8 жыл бұрын
+Fennecbutt but they are right. They don't use outdated equipment, they simply can not charge 45000$ line-setup when you order 50 PCBs for prototypes, custom upgrades or repair-jobs. Who the heck cares if they use 20 years old crt-monitors or apply the solder-mask in machines that look like they bought them from the local smith. I really like their presentation and know when I see a professionally designed workflow.
@RWoody1995
@RWoody1995 8 жыл бұрын
+Fennecbutt Wooooah calm down their comment was nothing like an attack
@9DC-Paul
@9DC-Paul 7 жыл бұрын
Depends on whether the line is for prototyping or production. Based on the volume of boards, this looks like a prototyping shop. One thing we all tend to forget is that with higher volume equipment, the cost of set up is higher. Think of a printing house - the equipment they will use to print 1000 books is not the same equipment that they would use to product 10000+ books. Reason - set up costs.
@hankbizzo5
@hankbizzo5 8 жыл бұрын
Wow there must be high levels of F.O.D on these panels..
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@hankbizzo5
@hankbizzo5 3 жыл бұрын
@@NewsDozens No i don't.
@hulladek3
@hulladek3 11 жыл бұрын
Ye amazing but there was one "sharp eyed inspector" who was wearing goggles 30:59 So i guess she is not so sharp eyed :D
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@HobbyBots
@HobbyBots 10 жыл бұрын
Hilarious!
@thekaiser4333
@thekaiser4333 4 жыл бұрын
@Eurocircuits Can you beat the price, delivered, of JLC-PCB?
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 4 жыл бұрын
Our answer can be found here: www.eurocircuits.com/blog/reaction-on-some-extreme-chinese-prices/
@thekaiser4333
@thekaiser4333 4 жыл бұрын
@@eurocircuits - Thank you. Very kind. However, what exactly do you use, to remove the blue photoresist after etching? 7:35 The video unfortunately omits that. I tried Acetone at room-temperature and normal pressure, but it doesn't really work very well...
@eurocircuits
@eurocircuits 4 жыл бұрын
@@thekaiser4333 We use UltraStrip RS218P (from MacDermid) in 8% concentration. So the rest is DeIonised water and some Antifoam solution.
@thekaiser4333
@thekaiser4333 4 жыл бұрын
@@eurocircuits - Most kind . Thanks a lot.
@NewsDozens
@NewsDozens 3 жыл бұрын
@@thekaiser4333 Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@ArsenioDev
@ArsenioDev 9 жыл бұрын
Seed the walls with... PALLADIUM?
@Leonelf0
@Leonelf0 9 жыл бұрын
Arsenio Dev i think it's used as a catalyst, so the copper can get deposited at the walls of the pcb
How are Microchips Made? 🖥️🛠️ CPU Manufacturing Process Steps
27:48
Branch Education
Рет қаралды 2,4 МЛН
How It's Made: Multilayer PCB Manufacturing Insight
19:56
SatisFactory Process
Рет қаралды 181 М.
Мы никогда не были так напуганы!
00:15
Аришнев
Рет қаралды 6 МЛН
МАМА И STANDOFF 2 😳 !FAKE GUN! #shorts
00:34
INNA SERG
Рет қаралды 4,7 МЛН
Vivaan  Tanya once again pranked Papa 🤣😇🤣
00:10
seema lamba
Рет қаралды 33 МЛН
Inside a Huge PCB Factory
26:49
Strange Parts
Рет қаралды 3,5 МЛН
Top Fifteen Mistakes People Make When Designing Prototype PCBs
12:26
Cosplay Light and Sound
Рет қаралды 134 М.
EEVblog #939 - How Is A PCB Manufactured?
27:00
EEVblog
Рет қаралды 288 М.
PCB production technology (full movie)
20:55
Rezonit
Рет қаралды 130 М.
Inside a Flexible PCB Factory - in China
32:40
Strange Parts
Рет қаралды 774 М.
6 Horribly Common PCB Design Mistakes
10:40
Predictable Designs
Рет қаралды 177 М.
Making of a 4-layer PCB by Eurocircuits.
13:04
Eurocircuits
Рет қаралды 107 М.
Inside the Professional PCB Assembly Process at a Leading Chinese Company
14:08
تجربة أغرب توصيلة شحن ضد القطع تماما
0:56
صدام العزي
Рет қаралды 2,1 МЛН
ПОКУПКА ТЕЛЕФОНА С АВИТО?🤭
1:00
Корнеич
Рет қаралды 3,7 МЛН
ОБСЛУЖИЛИ САМЫЙ ГРЯЗНЫЙ ПК
1:00
VA-PC
Рет қаралды 1,3 МЛН