Europe: The First Crusade - Men of Iron - Extra History - Part 4

[@GhostGamer123Ghost]

Robert of Flanders made it through Hungary and Byzantium without pillaging and looting a single village Robert of Flanders made and respected the oath to Emperor Alexios Robert of Flanders is a cool dude Be like Robert of Flanders

[@juliuspayne7722]

Colman Gebruers Roberts soliders “stupid flanders”

[@liamwilson5670]

Robert of Flanders got to Constantinople without losing a single ship or crusader.

[@ethandumoulin84]

facts

[@zackamor8043]

And literaly 200 years later his descendant becomes Latin emperor of Byzantine Empire. XD

[@tavasp]

@@zackamor8043 u mean the latin empire

[@WanderingRurouni92]

"Don't loot my city! Your broath binds you!"

[@coltonwilson5345]

+Zeredek Tips fedora/)

[@wyrmwood9457]

+Zeredek LOL

[@RKNGL]

I hear this in said in the Honest trailer guy's voice.

[@davidmcfall9169]

"Kilij Arslan, at the head of about 10,000 horse archers, thundered down in the plain surrounding the city. Then he saw how many crusaders he was facing, and then turned around and thundered off in the other direction." That's of way of saying he shat a brick and said "Nope."

[@boygenius538_8]

Minordomo Zephi Probably a smart move

[@ARMERZ]

Well courtesy to Sir Robin's Bard from Monthy Python, " BRAVELY RAN AWAY, BRAVELY RAN AWAY AWAY!"

[@socialistrecyclebin]

@@ARMERZ I'd love to watch a Monty Python-esque film centered around the crusades, it would be hilarious

[@Pikashockdragon]

​@@socialistrecyclebin Before Graham's death, they talked about a holy Grail sequel based on the crusades.

[@danielw.8356]

Alexios was a genius, literally delayed the fall of the Byzantine Empire by hundreds of years.

[@boaoftheboaians]

Lord Penguin About 400 years to be exact meh

[@danielw.8356]

+Boa of the Boaians True, however I do think they would have had a decent chance at still be alive up until the world wars, if not for the Venetians, and Latin Empire

[@boaoftheboaians]

Lord Penguin Yeah..... meh And they would probably have had a chance to resist the Ottomans, maybe.

[@Angelblue1302]

That, and got more than he bargained for...

[@azelfdaboi5265]

they could've held off the ottoman empire in 1453 if they didn't leave the gate open

[@Bram06]

The people's crusade: so shit, that it wasn't

[@freedomfighter22222]

+Bram06 So mind blowingly poorly executed it completely outsmarted one of the strongest empires around

[@InfernGame]

+freedomfighter22222 the Khanate of Rum was NOT one of the strongest empires around

[@weldonwin]

+freedomfighter22222 They were Brilliantly Incompetant

[@Bram06]

InfernGame Agreed, it did later form the Ottoman empire tough

[@EldricVanguard]

+Bram06 Well, you know what they say: "Fail Faster."

[@grfrjiglstan]

Wow, actual heroism. Didn't think we'd see any of that here.

[@Unseenarchivist]

+grfrjiglstan a big lesson of history is that while a cause as a whole may be unsavory, it's doesn't devalue the courage of individuals who fought for it.

[@joinmarch76]

+grfrjiglstan That's the thing, though; these were the ACTUAL crusading armies; not the deranged peasantry that were willing to kill their own allies just for the sake of absolution. So naturally, while it's clear that many of the crusading leaders were about as sane as Psycho from the Toon Patrol in Who Framed Roger Rabbit; chivalry was still a thing back then. At least in the loosest of terms.

[@isaacgr7314]

Im more suprised about dicsipline of the knights

[@Overhazard]

+joinmarch76 Another thing was that, for the first time, they were actually up against an opposing army rather than civilians or local guards who hadn't called in backup. Even that deranged peasantry would probably fall in line and take orders from their superiors seeing hordes of well-armed and hostile cavalry and infantry.

[@rjfaber1991]

+Sir Science Why would you be? These were professional soldiers that were basically set up for life to do nothing other than fight, seeing as they were basically provided for by the peasants on their lands. If your entire purpose is to fight, you might as well take the effort to get good at it.

[@ModelOmegaForReal]

And then next episode: "You thought you would be fighting Turks, but it was I the Egyptians!"

[@rjfaber1991]

Yeah. The falling apart of the Great Seljuk Empire certainly did help the Crusaders... They thought they'd be fighting the strongest empire in the world, and instead they just had to contend with some splinter states.

[@noonoox12]

+ModelOmega ih0.redbubble.net/image.27416899.5776/flat,800x800,070,f.u2.jpg

[@nonfinale685]

+ModelOmega it was me Austin!!!. it was me all along!!!!!

[@cameronsmith1339]

It was walpole.

[@wolfpytlak2786]

+ModelOmega Useless, useless, useless! the world belongs to me, Alexius!

[@Edax_Royeaux]

I think we can agree that Denethor's battlecry was far worst. "Abandon your posts! FLEE! Flee for your lives..."

[@marxel4444]

"IF WE CAN WIN WE CAN LOOT!!" and everybody wanted to loot...so they won the battle

[@Squre]

No way that was his battle cry?!?!??? LoL

[@hardcorehammy7848]

Edax and his manner of eating is even worse than that

[@henrygustavekrausse7459]

The movies messed book Denethor up.

[@neromauritzen9083]

"Today...We may lose hard... But fight hard! Give your lives! So our enemies may claim complete VICTORY"!"

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

Alexium Comnenus to the turkish defenders at Nicea : "we cool ?" "yeah we cool" "swear a broath of leaving me the city"

[@amazingblogger]

Duke of Lorraine omg dude! I see your comments everywhere, even on The Great War channel. Haha XD

[@ryanjapan3113]

amazingblogger where in the Great War?

[@niccolorichter1488]

Alexios Komneos !!!!! He was Greek !!!

[@ChristianNeihart]

Somehow I can't help but imagine Silij taunting the peasant crusaders in the manner of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

[@EdwardBerner]

+Christian Neihart Except that the peasant crusaders are the "silly French people" who should be doing the taunting... :P

[@internetalias1613]

+Christian Neihart Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elder berries!

[@ChristianNeihart]

James Price Now go away or I will taunt you a second time!

[@jonassamuel4376]

+Christian Neihart :D

[@zlkimagenX]

+Christian Neihart I would not fart in your general direcSHAWN!

[@joshschilmeister1934]

As a CK2 player I can confirm "Today, if god's willing, we'll all be rich!" is indeed the motto of the crusades.

[@erttheking]

The Crusaders...being heroic. That's a twist.

[@nonfinale685]

+erttheking every war has a heroic battle. even the darkest ones such as ww2 had germans protecting civilians heroically.

[@Infinite_Jester]

+chris succee There even was French and Italian people doing the same! Oh, I suppose we might have a different bias as to who was the bad guy... :P

[@MrMrtvozornik]

+chris succee You aren't familiar with jokes, are you?

[@aluluei]

+erttheking Clearly these are not crusaders but instead all of them are Walpole. All of them.

[@snowstorm9818]

+Elizabeth Steere IT WAS WALPOLE

[@probablythedm1669]

As awful as any war or armed conflict is, I can't help but feel a bit moved by such dedication to protect the civilians. Good on you crusaders... even though it's your fault they ended up in a battle in the first place.

[@GeneralLuigiTBC]

After the disastrous Peasants' Crusade, the bad behavior of most of the leaders of the actual Crusade on the way to Constantinople, and now the Crusaders' failure to factor Lake Askania into their plans for the siege of Nicaea, I can't help but picture Alexius on his throne, facepalming, and uttering the classic "I'm surrounded by idiots" line.

[@Progamermove_2003]

When I heard of the lake, the first thing that came in my mind was that it could resupply the besieged garrison. Maybe they didn't studied enough history back then?

[@moleperson]

Then he just looks over to RF and says, “Except you. You’re cool.”

[@Jembii]

09:25 Bohemond was like "Get rich, or die trying!" A real O.G

[@krieg8943]

Phefonyawena well if it’s by Morgan freeman line then it’s “Get busy getting rich or get busy dying” Though that doesn’t sound as good

[@TheJboy88]

Peter? Congratulations. Your complete and utter failure, and the massacre of your entire peasant's crusade, led your successors to actually have some success. Emperor Alexius? Congratulations. Your deal with the city of Nicea, and your foresight to prevent the crusaders from ransacking the place, was perhaps the best outcome that place could have hoped for. Justinian would be proud. Crusaders? Er...still not fond of the whole "holy war" thing, OR of your terrible track record so far, but still, that last battle, holding the line to defend civilians? Classy. Though my praise is more for your soldiers than your leaders. Except you, Robert. You're still cool.

[@Dionaerys]

+Jay Downside for the Alexius, it did convince many of the Crusaders that the Byzantines weren't to be trusted, and would happily stab them in the back. The difference was, the Crusaders saw Islam as simply a monolithic enemy that had to be defeated, while the Byzantines had to live next to them. So they were always suspicious of the courtesy and respect that the Romans showed to their foes.

[@Alexaflohr]

I used to think that Bismark was the most manipulative man in history, but now I'm leaning towards Alexius. The first guy can convince a nation to go to war with an angry letter. The second guy can bend the will of armies under his heel with a little wealth and a lot of guile.

[@MrMrtvozornik]

+Alexander Abrams-Flohr To be honest, I don't see anything manipulative here. He asked for help from the Pope to RETAKE his land, not to be ransaked by some peasants half a world away from. The problem was of course, that everyone have their own reasons, one guys wants fame and glory, other wants redemption, third one wants to retake the lands that were his, fourth guy wants to take those lands for himself. In all honesty, Crusaders were not to be trusted, even with the oath, yet alone when half of them straight out refused it on the first place.

[@jok1957]

+Stefan Kojadinov The level of persuasiveness, balls, and intriguing ability required to whip an entire culture to travel half the world (in their minds) is extraordinary and manipulative as fuck. It's not like the leaders of europe and the pope didn't know that the war was risky and expensive.

[@MrMrtvozornik]

Vincent de Verdier No, sorry, that's delusional. Whip an entire culture to travel half the world? No no no, western Europe NEEDED somewhere to leave, to release the pressure inside. Saying that it's all on Byzantium emperor is border line retarded. EVEN EXTRA CREDITS explained how Pope wanted Catholics to go fight somewhere else instead in Europe. Think before you speak.

[@AlanHaskayne]

The frack, what the hell is wrong with these people? "Tonight we will all be rich" sounds more like something you would hear from pirates, or a mercenary army...

[@Clowndoe]

Money (specifically loot) appears to be the main motivation for the overwhelming majority of soldiers until the Napoleonic wars

[@MattHoffmannn]

+AlanHaskayne To be fair, if someone offered you a shit ton of money/gold, you'd be pretty hyped up and ready to get shit done.

[@TheKingAmongThem]

+Clowndoe Pretty sure the first episode of the series said quite clearly it was because of absolution

[@Clowndoe]

ElPerezidente That's the official reason, but then you see how they behave.

[@Clowndoe]

ElPerezidente Although you've inspired me to edit my original comment to be less absolute.

[@dwolfson486]

"We cool?" *puts on shades* "Yeah, we cool." *does secret handshake*

[@navilluscire2567]

8:56 *When you're the team's dedicated "tank".* But seriously this was an inspiring story of courage, valor, *and probably more than a little bit of desperation* in the face of seemingly overwhelming odds!

[@jaypillsbury843]

Amidst all the bravery and discipline of the men holding the shield wall, what speaks to me the most is that the priests were _singing._ These were people who did not sign up for a war. They were not among those who started the crusade. They were innocent citizens whose lives had suddenly taken a turn for the worst. Say what you will about religion and faith, but it can _definitely_ keep people's spirits up when such a thing is necessary for survival.

[@IonutzGamesMc]

Jake Pillsbury except the fact that all this killing and violence was bacause of religions...

[@shiningvictory7060]

Well yes and no the religion is a vessel although the actual reasons where more political and economical.

[@YiannissB.]

nah, it was "through" religion. The dukes and counts were surerly motivated with more down to earth reason than spirituality

[@ramblingsofadash5159]

So your saying that the pope didn't use religion as a reason to go a kill a bunch of muslims?

[@johnapple6646]

Why were there civilians in the camp anyway?

[@extrahistory]

Across the Bosphorus at last, the Crusaders set their sights on nothing less than the Turkish capitol.

[@yogsothoth7594]

+Extra Credits Could you do a little more about what the Turks and other Islamic nations were doing at this point.

[@rjfaber1991]

+Gareth Brooks-Martin They were falling apart. The Great Seljuk Empire had governed pretty much all of the Middle East, but in 1092 it broke up, and it continued to do so until by the time the Crusaders arrived, the old Seljuk territory was divided among more than ten different successor states that spent most of their time fighting each other. The maps shown in this episode are actually wrong, because they depict the domains of Kilij Arslan as the entire former Great Seljuk Empire, when in reality he only governed the Sultanate of Rum, which comprised the western part of Anatolia, and was in nearly continuous warfare against the Danishmends, who controlled northeastern Anatolia. The Danishmends are shown in the video, but when Kilij Arslan is supposedly fighting against them at 6:42, the map actually depicts him as besieging the kingdom of Cilician Armenia, which was a Christian state founded by refugees from Armenia after that was conquered by the Seljuks (it was held at this time by the Saltukids and the Sultanate of Ahlat), and regardless of whether Kilij Arslan was fighting the Cilicians at the time, Cilician Armenia ≠ the Danishmend Sultanate. I can see something coming for the Lies episode...

[@spizie1400]

+Extra Credits Good job, i hope u will make muchhh more videos :D

[@tammysilverwolf1085]

+Extra Credits Now that was bad ass. Thanks for all the work you guys do

[@DrTssha]

+Extra Credits Capital. The Capitol is the name for the building where the U.S. congress and senate meet. It has no other meaning (at least, last time I checked my dictionary).

[@JorneDeSmedt]

Antioch? Did they have any Holy Hand Grenades?

[@zetsubou1v1]

"One... Two... Five!" "Three sir!" "Er, right. Three!"

[@geranarthy2309]

+zetsubou1v1 (Holy angelic choir) BOOM!

[@ravenwing199]

+TheRexDark Your mothers where hamsters and your fathers stunk of elderberries.

[@adeenine]

+XxRavenwing19xX Bring me a shrubbery!

[@FoxEatingBamboo]

+TheRexDark There is, in fact, have a mystical relic that's a weapon that turns the tide of battle at Antioch! Not the Holy Hand Grenade, though. That was already used up back in 932.

[@TubeBeky]

Dam , this was MVP ESPORTS shit right here , 7 straight hours of sun and arrow? Jesus , hat down

[@Aetrion]

+TubeBeky They wore lots of arrow block.

[@superbit415]

+Aetrion And more importantly they had KNEE GUARDS

[@Ash_Yu]

Gotta wonder how many arrow the Turkish army had left after that.

[@grumpyturtle9682]

+TwilitKage "Alright, its been seven hours, how many arrows do we have left? Al-Alim, your report. Al-Alim: "Well we for the entire army we have about ten arrows left, a couple of broken spears, some sticks we found on the way here and for the past three hours Al- Khaliqs been using his kids slingshot. Yes sir, now is a good time to throw in the towel.

[@Ash_Yu]

Adoss shall rule all "Nonsense! Tie some pebbles to those sticks and continue firing." "But sir, without feathers the accura-" "Continue fire!"

[@Tselel]

Freaking Byzantines showing everyone how it's done.

[@Enkabard]

+Tselel Except they were loosing royaly and so they called those crusaders. With so many "friends" behind your back you can do some good moves.

[@Blazo_Djurovic]

+Bieseger For the Romans problem was not that they didn't know how to defeat the Turks, or that they lacked bravery and military knowledge and expirience. In many ways they and the Turks were superior in these areas to the Crusaders. Byzantines simply lacked raw power and numbers necessary to step up to the Turks and deliver a smackdown.

[@Enkabard]

Блажо Ђуровић Well it was problem because they didn't know, that's why they there were loosing and had to call some other forces to aid them, it wasn't because they waken up one morning and said "you know what would be nice, even if we ain't loosin, lets call pillaging and murderous crusaders, not because it's our last option, but just for fun" it doesn't work like that you know. It was because they lost extremely huge partions of their empire to Turks. They fallen to turks after some longer time anyway so it was turks who delievered the final smackdown. And that "friends behind your back" didn't worked out either as it left byzantine empire even more weaker. "freaking byzantines" showed us how huge empire falls even through all the the effort put into saving it.

[@phosphoros3050]

+Tselel Only they lost to disastrous results at Manzikert due to their idiotic policy of having relying too heavily on mercenaries (who betayed them) rather than having a more lasting Imperial professional army (such as the one Basil the II had).

[@Blazo_Djurovic]

Daniel Gonzalez The Byzantines did have professional core of troops in that battle, but they suplemented the numbers and abilities with mercenaries. Also reading about that battle at wikipedia it seems that the disaster was mostly caused by fleeing of Armenians/Georgian contigent plus betrayal of other Byzantine commanders. The rest fought to the bitter end, like for example the Turkic mercs that stayed with the army after learning who they will be fighting. Manzikert wasn't significant because Byzantines were defeated, the instability and civil war, and the loss of Asia Minor is what did them in.

[@Crazy56U]

6:17 It is at this point that I am reminded of this quote from the "4 branches" sbemail: "You know how in video games, if you get the super-duper high score, it eventually flips back to zero? Well, sometimes, Homestar does something _so stupid_, he flips back to smart." *The Peasant's Crusade was the Homestar of the First Crusade.*

[@oddcrafter1270]

A moment of silence for Frank Bennedetto.

[@EvynTheBooksmith]

To think that the peoples crusade actually did something "good". As we say in Denmark "Intet er så skidt at det ikke er godt for noget", which roughtly translate to "Nothing is so bad that it isn't good for somthing".

[@benmatalon92]

"Somehow, magically, the 2000 Byzantine troops managed to scale the walls and capture the cit-" It was Walpole.

[@myohmy9000]

Emperor Alexias sounds like the only hero in this part of the story

[@BritishRepublicsn]

Robert of Flanders: Am I a joke to you?

[@Lalle524]

"By being so dreadfully bad they made the turks not care about the real army" Tzeentch strikes Again, just as planned, KIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKI

[@josephtrojan2230]

+Jasper Daugaard Who?

[@Lalle524]

Joseph Trojan Just the god of manipulation, planning, and one of the heads of the sentence "just as planned. KIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKI" 1d4chan.org/wiki/Tzeentch

[@Ridgwaycer]

+Jasper Daugaard CREEEEEEEED

[@Lalle524]

Admiral Attila*giant bird man appears behind you* "CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED"

[@wolfwoodphreak]

@@josephtrojan2230 warhammer joke. Dont worry about it. The chaos gods were in full force that war lol

[@federicom]

"Today if God's willing, we'll all be rich" sounds like something a Game of Thrones character would say. From here onwards I will picture Bohemond as Bronn with a moustache.

[@SacridFire]

Actually, as they mention in the lies episode, Bohemond was clean shaven. So basically you can just call him Brom XD

[@6666Imperator]

I also know which FAMILY in Game of Thrones would be most likely to say it...

[@Sizerius]

Ah, Antioch, that's where they found the relic called the Holy Hand Grenade, which later found itself in the hands of none other than King Arthur.

[@davidhong1934]

Sadly, the secret of what number came after two was not found

[@erttheking]

Ragnar Lothbrok: SHIELD WALL!

[@soviet_tank_lover]

+erttheking FORM TESTUDO.

[@WonkieNJ]

+erttheking Shit I forgot how much I need the new season.

[@DCdabest]

+erttheking Funnily enough Bohemond and Tancred are Normans; The Normans being the descendents of Vikings. Specifically Ragnar's supposed brother Rollo (Robert, Rolf or Hrolf as he was named in some records) who was the first Duke of Normandy.

[@KOCChristian]

⁠@@DCdabestRagnar and Rollo aren’t brother they both lived hundred years apart. But all Viking share same origin region so it still a great reference

[@HammerspaceCreature]

'We'll all be rich!' sounds like a pretty good battlecry to me. I'd follow that.

[@DragoSonicMile]

Worst battlecry ever? I don't know. It isn't nearly as bad as "Get me my brown pants!"

[@rossmallo]

When I first read the title of this, I figured that the "Men of Iron" bit had to be some sort of pun or something. I was genuinely shocked beyond belief when I saw that these people actually did something that stalwart and heroic. Seriously, holy shit. EDIT: I should clarify, the reason I'm shocked is because of these guy's previous actions. Yaknow, wholesale slaughter of innocent people, betraying the people they were trying to help, and so on. I'm not opposed to the idea of knights in general being heroes, its just...Considering their track record I was quite suprised when THESE knights stopped stabbing people in the back and actually made good on the hero bit. So please stop yelling at me for this statement.

[@Lalle524]

+rossmallo a holy sh^^ indeed

[@nonfinale685]

+rossmallo remember even though these people are going to war for a reason that you see as bad, they see themselves as the heroes. so they're absolutely going to act like heroes.

[@rossmallo]

+chris succee Yeah, but bear in mind a fair few of these are the same guys who burnt, pillaged and murdered many, many people and settlements. Weren't exactly acting in a very heroic fashion back then.

[@benjamintalbot201]

+rossmallo they would of seen it as justified and viewed Muslims as servants of the devil and threats to Christendom etc. Also they were just soldiers at the end of the day and pillage was pretty much 90% of Medieval European warfare at the time, just with the added spice of the civilians you are slaughtering are declared Infidel by "Gods representative on earth. Then again everyone was pillaging all they could get their hands on at the time so they were not really that bad comparatively (still a bad excuse though)

[@Knoloaify]

+rossmallo The romans pillaged and burned villages before enslaving people, pre-islamic and islamic eastern and north-african people did the same thing, just like the Eastern Roman Empire. And let's not even talk about the mongols or Timur. It didn't stop any of them from thinking of themselves as the heroes. Outside of the absolute disaster that was the People's Crusade and the tendency of the crusaders to hurt their own ally, they weren't any more evil or any less heroic than other people before and after them.One of the few military leader that depicted himself as a monster was Nobunaga, who was far from being the worst if you consider what all military leaders of all cultures did.

[@spencerdecoteau8038]

It feels like the emperor was the only rational and humane character in this group. I like this guy.

[@hunkpapap]

7:13 I would buy a shirt with this as the picture for the 1st Crusade

[@jeremykent9950]

I recently found out I was directly decended from Emperor Comnenos. Neat to see how my 26th grandfather was such a clever dude.

[@mewmew8932]

Do the big brain plays run in the family?

[@Binidj]

The recounting of the shield wall was electrifying, very well done.

[@Jedibob5]

Wait, shouldn't the Byzantine Emperor be marked with "AK" on his robes instead of "AC?" His name is Alexios *K*omnenos...

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

+Jedibob5 names were commonly "translated" during the Middle Ages (for example William the Conqueror = Guillaume le Conquérant in french). I believe his latin name is used here.

[@Jedibob5]

+scarfacemperor Ah, that would make sense. Wikipedia confirms that his name is Latinized as Comnenus.

[@Draczar]

+Jedibob5 Latinised his name is Alexius Comnenus so both are accurate.

[@t3hsourcey]

+Jedibob5 Byzantines spoke Latin in the Middle Ages I believe, not Greek. Not sure though, but look into that possibility.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

V Stanev The Eastern Roman Empire (it wasn't called the Byzantine Empire until something like 1 century after its final fall) always spoke greek. Latin was only dominant in the West. However since this is from the crusaders' POV, crusaders who used latin as shared tongue, using the latin name makes sense.

[@bradypus55]

This is such a good show. And did i Laugh when he said "and then at last, a force led by Bishop Adhemar (of all people) sneaked around their camp and assaulted from the rear." Never underestimate bishops! Diagonal move FTW!

[@deangoldenstar7997]

How can people dislike this? I mean... it's a retelling of history...

[@EndQuarkConfinement]

+Dean Goldenstar What are you talking about? As of this moment there are only 2 dislikes. Every popular channel has people randomly disliking their videos for whatever reason.

[@deangoldenstar7997]

EndQuarkConfinement But this is history! There is literally no reason to dislike it.

[@slendy9600]

+EndQuarkConfinement yeah and theres always a few people who are like "hurdur, this video has no dislikes, id better ruin that durrr" because..... reasons?

[@deangoldenstar7997]

slendy9600 ... Some people are stupid... I've never disliked anything, I find that the lack of a view or the lesser time I watch it is enough of a dislike...

[@gameboo]

+Dean Goldenstar In addition to some people being general asshats, there may be some who are pressing dislike because they do not agree with how EC covers its history. Those people think EC are willfully deceiving their audience and if that were the case I can understand the thumbs down being clicked. Personally I thoroughly enjoy Extra History, they find a great way of retelling history and even make a special effort at the end of each series to point out what they may have gotten wrong or embellished, which (I think) inspires interested people to look deeper into these events which can only be a good thing :)

[@ArchOfWinter]

Have you guys ever thought about publishing these Extra History series as picture books after you corrected any missed mistakes? Like one book per event?

[@unlshtb4524]

A Turk myself i enjoy watching these. I am told what i have not been told . History is never completely impartial.

[@HuffmanDickings]

never would I have thought that my favorite game analysis channel would also become my favorite history channel. cheers, guys!

[@theclimbto1]

I'll tell you what, the Crusades isn't the romance that History makes it out to be. But that story of holding the line while Turkish Arrows bombarded, until the other forces arrived... that's worthy of a Movie. 300 took a single battle and made it a movie, I'd LOVE to see this. Especially with the added bonus that some Priest with no Battle Experience took a group behind, burned the camp, and turned the tide.

[@ryanharrelson6935]

There better be a holy hand grenade joke in the next episode.

[@whitelady1063]

ya what sure

[@99dzoni]

The picture at 5:42 is just amazing, everyone is thinking while Robert of Flanders is just chilling whit those shades on.

[@WillKrause21]

Question about the battlecry: is it possible that he said "if god willing, we will all be Fortunate"? I know that Fortune in latin is the same word for luck and wealth, so... possible mixup? Just asking.

[@matthewhowell66]

+o_O The entire quote is: "Let us all unite in Christ's faith and the victory of the Holy Cross, for, God willing, today we shall all be made rich." legacy.fordham.edu/halsall/source/gesta-cde.asp I'm assuming James Brundage got the translation right. I'm not sure it's meant literally. I find it just as easy to believe it's a reference to Philippians 3:8, or a similar verse. I don't know. This is a recurring problem with this particular series, the complete lack of context. It's like recording John Fisher's last words and being confused that a man about to be executed would refer to it as "my wedding day" out of apparent ignorance of how bishops think of themselves.

[@stefanomaccarone4637]

+Will Krause You might be thinking about the word "felix" which can be translated as happy, rich, lucky and even fertile. However the latin quote should be "Estote omnimodo unanimes in fide Christi et Sanctae Crucis victoria, quia hodie omnes divites si Deo placet effecti eritis." So the word used is divites which is the plural of dives which just means rich, therefore it's quite straightforward, if you ask me.

[@WillKrause21]

Ya, now that I see the latin, he isn't using any of the more vague terms that could mean rich. It is still weird, though.

[@stefanomaccarone4637]

+o_O I guess it is possible, but I wouldn't count on it: to me it seems much more plausible that we are used to literary rousing speeches but a veteran army on foreign soil could be better motivated by the promise of loot then by the Kingdom of Heaven or some bullshit. I know that after learning about their heroic resistance it would seem more fitting some kind of "St. Crispin's day speech" but heroic deeds are not always done because of heroic reasons.

[@Blazo_Djurovic]

+Stefano Maccarone Also wan't this the Norman army? Norman Sicilian Army? If so, no wonder they were fighting for the wealth once you know who the Normans were.

[@SnoppysWingman]

And THAT, boys and girls, is what true chivalry looks like.

[@shadowsfromolliesgraveyard6577]

Chekhov's Peasants.

[@discipleofpugi7642]

5:43 Alexius: still cool man? Robert of Flanders: yeah, still cool

[@SamaritanPrime]

(Seljuks rain arrows on civilians) Crusaders: I can do this all day.

[@JG48]

Dan, I could hear you tell ancient battles all day. I got shivers as you told about Bohemond and his knights held the line!

[@derpmansderpyskin]

but the question is... Do they have hearts of iron?

[@GovernorVanskoff]

I have Hearts of Iron :)

[@tru8637]

No, but they do have Crusader Kings 2.

[@markdowding5737]

Alexius is the medieval equivalent of Bismark, he always has a plan and a way to advance his interests.

[@Finn_the_Cat]

2:48, running away from the crusaders with your bow ready to fire while facing away from the enemy, smart move

[@amegenshiken]

Ooooo! The next episode's going to be on my birthday. Awesome!

[@AeroQC]

9:27 Another keeper for future quotes.

[@one5e]

Fun fact, crusade in german is ‘Kreuzzug” which when broken down and translated is “Kreuz” meaning “cross” and “Zug” meaning “train”. So “Deus Vult” may as well have been “All aboard the Jesus train, we got no breaks till the holy land is ours”

[@omerfaruk6082]

Sultan Kılıç Arslan was only 17 years old in a newly built sultanate, when he had to fight against a sea of combined European forces. Still he and his successors managed to defeat crusaders many times to a degree that they chose the sea route to the Holy Land instead of passing through Anatolia.

[@captainfalcon8615]

I feel like I’m back in history class but one thousand times cooler, if I was back in high school this would honestly help me learn a lot faster and give me a more complete understanding of events from the far or recent past they do an awesome job of explaining every angle of conflicts and resolutions

[@Sylocat]

The most appropriate soundtrack for most of this story would be Yakety Sax. Or the Can Can.

[@Runix1]

It's incredible how well you can tell history. Always something I've been interested in, but damn, you guys are awesome at it!

[@olixor]

You guys should get sponsored by Paradox and their games, I think it would go hand in hand with Extra History.

[@MiguelAbd]

Better than any history lesson about the crusades that I've ever had!!

[@lewa705]

Freaking awesome. Shieldwalls are very difficult to maintain, for a minute, and they were able to maintain a formation for 7 hours!

[@Hathur]

Really a great series, well put together and entertaining / informative :)

[@timedragon1]

Now, the First Crusade was cool and all, but let's all take a moment to remember the most badass and hardcore crusade of them all. The Children's Crusade.

[@revenger210]

+timedragon1 ok, I'm curious, what was the Children's Crusade?

[@Vrykion15]

+Revenger 210 a colossal disaster, in short a large band of children went on a crusade and disappeared, probably sold into slavery.

[@timedragon1]

Revenger 210 Like the guy before me said, it was pretty much just Children and Teenagers trying to do a Crusade but all getting kidnapped and/or killed somewhere along the way.

[@revenger210]

timedragon1 oh damn x_x does that tie in to the First Crusade in any way, or did it occur way later after them? Because, if it happened during the First, then it'd be pretty neat for EC to mention it :)

[@timedragon1]

Revenger 210 It happens /way/ later. After a few failed Crusades.

[@vinx.9099]

who else got chills in the shield wall story. now that is indeed truly heroic.

[@jadeforest7924]

I seriously want to see this Crusade as a movie.

[@vincentvassallo5727]

to all those at extra credits I thank your work and determination to produce such history videos is remarkable I thank you most sincerely. your videos have been life changing for me and many of my colleagues and I must say your channel and historical content is something very special and I feel without it KZbin would lose something very important to have. learning. you guys are outstanding and I support you 100% on what your doing I hope you guys keep up content like this for a very long time

[@baazarafa]

Please PLEASE do a series on Menelik the 2nd of Ethiopia. The first (and I believe only) time an african power defeated a european one in war. It is so interesting how they pulled it off!

[@holyemperorofanimetiddies5548]

You mean by outnumbering them like 30 to 1? Wow awesome

[@Elemental-Phoenix]

this is the best series so far guys, thank you.

[@wulfenbride9705]

A liberal interpretation of oaths. Excited to see what that means.

[@vavakxnonexus]

+wulfen bride Loot and plunder! and then give the city to the poor emperor.

[@wilfredomartinez4788]

+Vavakx Nonexus Form- CAPTAIN PLANET!

[@EnoshII]

+wulfen bride Byzantines abandoned the crusaders at the siege of Antioch thinking it was going to fail, crusaders succeed and keep the city for them self arguing that the oaths became null and void once the Byzantines decided to leave them for dead

[@MrMrtvozornik]

+wulfen bride Killing, looting, plundering, pretty much those. Lets quote ''Kill them all, God will recognize his own.''-a main bishop when crusaders pillaged Jerusalim.

[@EnoshII]

+Stefan Kojadinov that's utterly wrong in every single way, it's kinda amazing you manged to string so much bullshit together in a single sentence I already gave the reason for why the crusaders stopped keeping up their oaths, from their pov the Byzantines breached it first when they abandoned them and that quote is from the albigensian crusade in France, Jerusalem in the first crusade evicted it's christian population before the crusaders started the siege

[@stalfithrildi]

The script for this set of Extra History has been superb. Well done whoever is responsible.

[@Roanemity]

Love Robert with the sunglasses :D

[@spiritsongtress]

And the Line Held-- that's an epic. THis was epic. THe stuff of legends, basically what we al throught the Crusades were.

[@fristnamelastname5549]

The People's Crusade was just....total shit, that the leader of the country thought the real Crusade was not worth his time???? Oh boy did that bit him in the ass...

[@SLagonia]

This is easily the funniest topic so far covered on this show, and I am very impressed with how accurate the information is. The Crusades tend to bring out the propagandist in historians, rather than the objective narrator.

[@shogunlewis8901]

Thank God for all these murderous zealots or we'd never have this series of Extra history. =D

[@bensrandomshows1482]

Ha

[@Isildun9]

Am the only one that loves that Robert of Flanders is shown with sunglasses?

[@felipegracetto5631]

i thougth that was pretty impressive the part were the use Their Shields to protect the civililians

[@HoundofOdin]

Crusaders: This was suspiciously easy, like they were expecting to fight peasants. Peter the Hermit: You're welcome!

[@cokeMONSTERps3]

6:10 All according to plan.

[@dapperduck4250]

This series is fantastic! With the covering of Early Christian Schisms and the First Crusade, hopefully the First Fidna is on your to-do list! I think it would be very enlightening to many viewers to see how Fidna shaped not only the development of one of the most populous religions in the world, but the internal political schisms that still shape modern politics in the Middle East to this day

[@ToxisLT]

I'm starting to see (maybe imagine:) where did the notoriety of knight Templar came from. If they were made from, or by the people who stood those 7 hours in that desert sun with such discipline - these are some powerful people. A band of people who looked into death's eyes together and said F* you to it's face, afterwards can basically do anything they decide to do as a group, and such experiences make bonds so tight you can not infiltrate into or buy out members of. So these were some powerful people all monarchs and priest back home should fear if you are not on their side. Now I understand the mythology and the aura of threat that should have been told about such people in the age of very limited information bandwidth

[@hassaanalisiddiqui3827]

Alexios sounds like a kind hearted man

[@notbobby125]

9:27 I mean, that KIND OF makes sense if your sacking a city... sorta, but this is an OPEN FIELD battle. All they would be able to loot is the corpses of their enemies and fallen allies, not the Turkish treasures.

[@NoahWeisbrod]

+notbobby125 Nobles or even royalty as captives? Not to mention the fortune in arms and armor...

[@braith117]

+Noah Weisbrod not to mention their baggage train. This would have most of their wealth, especially since their capital was lost, as well as supplies, arrows, and tents.

[@KanaiIle]

+notbobby125 Maybe it was metaphorical. Like "rich in succes", "rich in spirit" or "rich in heaven".

[@TimGallois]

+notbobby125 It's translated from Latin. It is very likely that he didn't meant "rich in gold", which is a sad overview by EC.

[@stefanomaccarone4637]

+Tim CAILLOT +notbobby125 Actually they DID get rich for a short period of time since they captured Kilij Arslan's treasury. Moreover, as I said in another comment, the latin world is "divites" meaning rather unequivocally "rich", not "rich in spirit" or stuff like that. I mean, it's not like these videos are perfect, far from it, but accusing EC of overviewing something just because it doesn't sound as poetic as you wish is quite dumb.

[@elikempema2858]

This whole series is just grand. I wonder if anyone has made a comical play about the crusades yet, I’d be surprised if no one has yet

[@chibiemo100]

Byzantines: we cool? Turks: yeah we cool.

[@robertshuxley]

this series is what I look forward to the most every weekend!

[@Bikad]

2:45 FOR HOME!!! ..erhm, nope ._.

[@freedomfighter22222]

+Niles then turned around and tundered right back where they came from :D

[@TheMadisonHang]

@9:27 that was the most sensible and honest and funny thing i heard this whole series XD

[@dbrokensoul]

man, that's a whole different level of badassery there. 7 hours of raining arrows. Wait. Why the Turks didn't charge directly with their cavalry? Or were they preoccupied with other army?

[@Blazo_Djurovic]

+Sam Percy - MrPercie I doubit Turks used heavy cavalry. They were probably trying to tire the Crusaders out, and provoke them into a charge, where they would have been easier pickings.

[@The_UmbrellaMan]

I like how they brought Grandpa along and let him do his thing for a while. Casually embracing the insanity of your cohort is just.... **chef's kiss**

[@pizzapicante27]

Can we get international measure units next time?, for us that live...you know... in all of the rest of world. Or at least give both measure units, please

[@azelfdaboi5265]

yea

[@landonvandop1875]

The Emperor: Hey Rob, you cool? Robert of Flanders: Ya, we cool.😎👈👈

[@vkaivos]

Its WE you uncultured swine

[@vidyaorszag]

The closer the Crusaders are to Jerusalem, the more I dread the episode of the city's sacking...

[@coltonwilson5345]

May they Rest in piece...

[@srcoleccionista2476]

4:42 "During one of those assualts; somehow, MAGICALL....it was Walpole".