European Family Sportscars | Assess and Caress with Donald Osborne and Jay Leno

[@chalesnu]

Always a pleasure to hear Donald Osborne speak on cars

[@Team33Team33]

14:45 - He's just another never ending drone of what every 12 year old want's to hear about cars. If you seriously think that BMW were STILL trying to get rid of the idea of the BMW Isetta in Europe in the 90's then think again my friend. BMW Isetta's were already looked upon as the coolest collectors item on the roads. Only 'Mercans try and hark on about the past and cling on to it as if their lives depended on it. I'm sure this man will tell you his father used to work in the cotton fields as a servant/slave. BMW cars were already a serious spoets car maker in the 60's. Mercedes was looked upon as a LUXURY car, NOT a sporty saloon. But all that has changed now when people like the Americans expect to buy: "one car does it all" sports saloon for 4 with extra space for 3 more at the back, with the handling of a two seater, a foldable roof and a great big growling V8 that does 50 miles to the gallon. Thats how you end up with the atrocities that are on the roads now.

[@AllieRogers-mq1kf]

@@Team33Team33this is an American KZbin channel. Hosted by two Americans. What do you expect?

[@glennhavinoviski8128]

@@Team33Team33 You lost me at "I'm sure this man will tell you his father used to work in the cotton fields as a servant/slave". This is not the 1920s.

[@BasicFolders]

Someone there is reading the comments. 😊 Glad to see him on again so soon, everybody absolutely loves Mr. Osborne. 😊❤

[@deviljelly3]

We do

[@rockets4kids]

lol. no. These are about the only videos on this channel I skip.

[@deviljelly3]

@@rockets4kids then you've made a mistake

[@rockets4kids]

@@deviljelly3 Videos like this are everything that is wrong about the classic car world -- It's all about the money.

[@email4664]

@@rockets4kids Like you matter

[@verdict1163]

The 500E looks so beautiful in the metal sitting there. Truly a masterpiece of design from Bruno Sacco, and with build quality to match.

[@computiNATEor]

Huge fender flares, looks imposing and expensive and sporty and meaty. So good.

[@enoboci2712]

The late Bruno Sacco should have been mentioned, in honor of his work. RIP Mr. Sacco. W124 500E/E500/E60 total 10,479 units produced.

[@brahand]

Dont forget the W126 (the S-serie) and the ”Baby Benz”, the 190. Also Bruno Saccos design.

[@stonecloser]

RIP Mr. Sacco!

[@jrkat]

Always Appreciate Mr. Osborne’s calm demeanor and sense of humor when presenting automobiles especially with Jay

[@davidpetts1548]

that guys is an absolute gem

[@MrCunningham4]

@@davidpetts1548 A true class act

[@HighSierra49er]

Really enjoying the last few A&C shows. Thanks for giving us this unexpected look at new shows with Jay and Donald. Keep them coming. A+ in every way....

[@deviljelly3]

They work so well together... Pebble Beach

[@wonderman1918]

I love Jay Leno and Mr Osborne, I hope they take care and protect care of each other and their collections and themselves

[@mooslionheart]

I respect your opinion and high regard for these two gentlemen, but I believe these machines, like myself were built to drive fast and take chances🦊

[@wonderman1918]

@ as Jay and Mr Osborne have, they loved and cherished these cars when they were worthless

Is something going to happen to them or their cars? Weird statement Please do tell it's almost like you know

[@rbslammed6163]

@@wonderman1918they were never worthless

[@HadrianV8]

Best show on the internet by far. Can't wait for the next episode. No one talks cars like Mr. Osborne.

[@bshingledecker]

Would love to see him team up with Steve Magnante

[@boyddubard4197]

We bought a M5 in Gibraltar in 1988. Drove it all over Europe for over 200,000 miles. Lots of 100+ MPH trips on the motorways. My girlfriend’s brother totaled it on the Elisabeth bridge. He claimed the brakes were “wrong” when he locked it up on black ice. Later it came out that the only other car he had ever driven was a Trabant.

[@Jeffgordonfan24hesthegoat]

You dumb for letting any other man drive your car 🤡

[@horvathr95]

Wait, it didnt have ABS? Or was it optional? By Elisabeth bridge, you meant the one in Budapest? Cause then it would make sense how your girlfriends brother had only ever driven a Trabant

[@user-ih7gc7dt9l]

Love these two together. They must go back decades.

[@lennartengel1971]

The dynamics and the knowledge between Jay and Donald is great. they know their stuff.

[@TheSlowDude]

I think they got one or two facts a bit wrong (but don't forget how much they know about sooo many cars) You may get a bit mixed up some times 😂

[@allincarnations]

European M5's bumpers are so much better looking than US versions

[@davidharris293]

I drive a 2016 Touareg which is brown on brown :)

[@michaelopere5424]

It's the same with the Mercedes where the bumpers are standard,but the European headlights are better looking,than the US versions.

[@johnnymason2460]

​@@michaelopere5424 You have to remember that America has completely different standards for vehicles than everywhere else in the world. It has always been that way and unfortunately it's not likely to change anytime soon.

[@allincarnations]

@michaelopere5424 exactly

[@MrBenzcdi]

This M5 has the E12 headlight cluster

[@BryceLovesTech]

These are some of my favorite videos on KZbin. Donald and Jay Leno are a national treasure.

[@get11net]

Dude I been saying the same thing my brotha

[@toesuf94]

Donald is as well...BOTH of these gentlemen are the perfect stewards of these cars. The fact that they share their passion and knowledge with us is a blessing. We are truly fortunate.

[@tiki_trash]

He must be preserved at any cost for future generations. 🙃

[@peter88554]

Three fabulous automobiles, Jay Leno and Donald Osborne. Excellent!

[@braxtonnelson5375]

I really do enjoy these segments... two very different people who both love automobiles while seeing them from slightly different perspectives. Also, two old friends who good-naturedly rib each other a bit, and two gentlemen who know a lot about automobiles and can converse amicably about them. I hope they continue to bring us content such as this.

[@roxiebeagle]

You are correct- they are great. I never miss their videos!

[@jezuzfreek777]

i love Jays wit. His acerbic but loving response "Of Course, why be correct when you can be incorrect!". LOL. Jay is amazing. Mr. Osbourne is a heck of a guy too. He matches wits with Mr. Leno quite well.

[@930Tony]

And Jay was wrong - they weren't "sport sedans" as the Ferrari is obviously a two door.

[@no.7593]

Mr. Osborne is a huge repository of automotive knowledge in addition to having impeccable taste in cars.

[@davidsherrick898]

I love how Donald mentions that Alfa Romeo was the first one to bring the sports sedan in the 50s, I love my 1988 Alfa Romeo Milano! I like when Jay and Donald get together. Great video as always!

[@anthonygray333]

Jay’s comment about new car height reminds me of what I told the Mrs recently. With the big wheels and two box SUV styles we are all driving 1930 Model A’s again!

[@MrDunky48]

I had never heard of Donald Osborne until I started watching these videos. The knowledge of these two men is simply extraordinary and the fluency with which it comes over makes it absorbing.

[@davepetrakos475]

Check out Jay Leno & Donald Osborne Audrain

[@gregorysmirnis7017]

Jay and Donald are exceptional on their own, but together, they are truly outstanding. Each brings a wealth of automotive knowledge and expertise. Gentlemen, thank you for sharing. 😇❤️

[@dougcargill6730]

I’ll take one of each. These were dream cars of mine back in the day.

[@WayneDavisDA_ILLESTalive14]

TEAM W124 (Edit) Knowing his “relationship” with Ferrari, that ending was funny

[@dialedindetail5899]

Jay will never get the concept of this challenge which is why they are so awesome to watch. Jay's depth of knowledge is amazing.

[@bunchafunk]

That Bimmer is a stunner.

[@Bravo21]

I think the 70's Mercedes 280se 4.5L was the beginning of the Performance Sedan as a class. They are still awesome cars.

[@ahemgee9542]

Nope, the W108 6.3 was a decade earlier. The 6.3 badge what was inspired the modern 63 AMGs.

[@W124forever]

To correct you both, the 300 SEL 6,3 came out in 1967 and was the first of the factory sports sedans, and it was a W109, long wheel base and air suspension chassies car. The 300 SEL 3,5 was next in 1969, 280 SE/L 3,5 in 1970 and the 300 SEL 4,5 together with the 280 SE/L 4,5 in 1971. They were all replaced with the W116 chassies cars in 1973 except for the US where the 108/109 was sold another model year, as 1973 year cars. The next beast of a sedan came mid 1975 when the W116, 450 SEL 6,9 was introduced.

[@dougshaw2944]

First thought: 500E People have been freaking out about those for the past couple years. Always nice to see Mr. Osborne on your channel! 👍👍

[@ingmarvanderhoek6314]

Golden duo. They play so well off each other.

[@bikerevolutiontv]

I was watching an old covid clip. It was the big car with the wheel on the truck. Can't remember, but it doesn't matter. What mattered to me was how you spoke of your family and the Sundays you spent with them. I, too, was that guy. You helped me remember the past in a good way. You reminded me of good times and especially how to describe a big car. A big, friendly elephant. I hope to be like you if I get to your age. I'm only 43, but that doesn't matter. It's just a number. What matters is the people we end up being. It is a reflection of our lives with other people, kindness, and love. Thanks for reminding me brother. Never stop loving!

[@GarryMcGovern]

I think the Ferrari 400 series of cars have definitely come in to their own - such understated class, sub-zero cool: love it!

[@CherylCold]

My first time seeing a 500e, I was working in a low paid factory waiting for a bus. Knew exactly what I was looking at. The plate kind of gave it away, my work mates had no idea why I got excited and probably thought I was even more strange than before. Now I've got a cool car collection and got lucky with a well paid job. Past days..... crazy.

[@AkinaGaurdrailerR35]

11:01 finally! This topic was brought to light! What a relief!! Loved the old BMWs, the E30 & E39 being my favs, but the modern ones look crazy…

[@e28forever30]

@rxw5520 The solution is simple: get an older BMW.

[@CraigSmith-qq3sr]

The M5 is the best of the three by far. My uncle bought one new in 88 for his 50th birthday. God I loved that car😊

[@deviljelly3]

You're awesome Jay.... but that there Donald... what can we say.... what a legend

[@HienNguyen-s9c6l]

BMW all day and every day. That's because I have two sitting in the garage. A 1965 1600Neue Klasse and 1987 e30 325is.

[@rosssoutherland8118]

I rode in a prototype Ferrari 400i years ago owned by a young professor at the University of Tennessee. I’ll never forget it! It had 2 extra stock tail lights! Had all the paper work & It screamed like a Ferrari-going down I-40 in Knoxville,Tn.

[@gordygolfc2039]

you interactions are superb, loving this series

[@rexmyers991]

Donald Osborne is a National Treasure. I love how they riff off each other

[@rh229pro]

Im enjoying PrimaDonald's comfort with lots of details which enables Jay to bring color, historical context and naturally humor. Well done!!!

[@mp3545]

One of the cars I’ve really lusted after in life has been the E28 M5 and I love seeing Jay look at one.

[@duncan649]

A joy to watch. The cars, the knowledge, the friendship and the good humour.

[@papa_pt]

I appreciate this guy pushing back on Jay for the place am automatic can have if it's in a softer GT

[@Fourrings80]

Love that M5.

[@zeldafan4567]

Donald is fantastic! I could listen to him all day long and still be enthralled. Please keep having him on!

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

That BMW is just one fine looking family hauler ✌💖☮

[@PeterWhite-q1k]

My "car nerd" gene has been rejuvenated by watching another Jay and Donald show. I am clearly sated until the next episode of Jay Leno's Garage. Thank you both and to Jay's crew who provides these top shelf videos.

[@undergroundhousesounds]

Thanks Jay❤️ This was when beemers and mercs were great cars. I was the same with my picks in appreciation, thought it would have been Beemer, Merc, Ferrari. That 500 though is just class

[@albertseabra9226]

Two fantastic car guys, different styles, creating an appealing Lesson about objects of Art -- not just Cars. An amazing Video, stressing the intelligent Design of these fabulous Vehicles. Thank you for another Great Video.

[@brahand]

I take the Mercedes 8 days a Week. This build-series - the W124 - is most likely the best car in the world of cars. And the 500E - or E500 which it is called sometime - is the best modell in this W124-serie. Super expensive today (winter 2024) so I could easy choose an E400 (also V8) or even an E320/E300 (straight 6) also.

[@markusstevensakabiginfinit9523]

Love all 3... That M5 has my heart. I had 1 in high school in the 90s... that 500E was the car that if you know YOU KNOW. The 600 that came out a couple years later was even more powerful but yet subtle... But I'd still take the M5 😊

[@tomranum6]

Mr. Osborn, indeed the E28 M5 has 286 hp with the M88/3 engine, however, the car in question has the S38 engine with 260 hp.. Lovely cars all three presented. Kudos.

[@alvy1968]

Correct the M88/3 European spec motor first came out in the M635csi in 84 then in the euro spec M5 in 1985.

[@1983dmd]

@@alvy1968 Don't forget the SA 745i with the M88/3 !!! Automatic or manual....

[@tedzehnder961]

Donald Osborne is such a cool guy I hope his work gets more notice because you can`t help but appreciate his delivery.

[@ShinGoukiSan]

My Step-Dad's parents had that Merc and that BMW

[@Wladislav]

The 500E is amazing, and those AMG wheels fit perfectly.

[@crherniman]

They do look great. I would have to say the EVO wheels look a bit better than the AMGs though.

[@taroyajima6583]

My father owned an E28 M5 with a factory-installed 4-speed automatic. Around 1988, a friend of my father's saw an M5 with an automatic transmission at BMW HQ, bought it, and had it flown to Japan. After that, it passed to my father.

[@spyonthesoftparade]

Now the 500E has been on both Jay's and Harry's channel, values will rocket

[@is2jzge]

I can listen to Donald talk about cars forever!

[@roscoemuttley]

I really like this show, Donald is perfect, and you guys are great together, the burns! Oh, the burns

[@darniusterix5774]

I love these segments! Beautiful cars and would have loved to see them driven. Maybe next time.

[@steelwheels327]

Love to hear Mr. Osborne talk about cars he really knows his stuff!

[@rovervitesse1985]

11:03 😂 “bucky the beaver look” Spot on! I always call it the MoleRat front end. My car has a Ferrari transmission 😏☺️ Ill take the 400i please. The colour (nothing beats a brown car!), the style, the sound, the soul, the passion and the whole experience…. As good as those germans may be, they’ll never match all that.

[@01FozzyS]

Wow, 3 cars that I actually like all in one episode!

[@chrisloukes424]

If it's any consolation Jay, I agreed 100 per cent with your assessment!!

[@rahimwilson3795]

Love these comparisons, so educational, nice and concise..and the fact there is always a favorite that you would choose and root for personally..too good.

[@jwaterous224]

Cool quiz, glad Ferrari is appreciated the most, recently. Jay Leno’s garage has the best cars ever.

[@renelara1925]

I'm here for the M5 and 500E

[@rwburdett]

Wonderful Dapper Don!

[@tonypalermo5796]

The 400i was one of the best stylish cars of the 80s. Very few were 5 speeds.

[@re14437]

These episodes with Donald are my favorite! I guessed the Ferrari, but it was closer than I thought it would be!

[@theodoremartine3414]

I do like this three-car format.

[@bartoszlatus3091]

Few years ago guy in found, original state, full workin' M5 in Spain for 5k. yeah, bit used. fully workin and givin. Same as this but Euro spec. 5k. I paid 4y ago 1,2k for 523 no rust. E39. Thats the point. Nice episode guys. Thanks.

[@cobra1010]

The Ferrari 400 is such a super elegant and stylish car. I love it!

[@Jargonaut1159]

This was so enjoyable, thanks Jay. Donald Osborne is just so smooth, articulate and knowledgeable - you make a great team.

[@rayborg7378]

Star turn for yours truly was your comment Mr Osbourne . Alfa Romeo was the orginal sporting sedan manufacturer . In the early 1960s Alfa were really class.

[@mikehotchkiss8975]

For the first time I got it right. Also don't shorten these vids, it just flies by

[@Carrera6rennsport]

The E28 M5 was more of high-speed point A to B tool, not a canyon carver. That heavy lump upfront magnified the understeer issues. I sold mine when they weren't worth more than $15k with high mileage. I don't look back at it with any particular fondness except for the engine note at full chat, it was special.

[@stonecloser]

Glorious sound of the inline six!

[@brianz426]

You guys are the best! The cars, the facts, the history, the conversation, all very entertaining. Please keep doing these. 👍👍👍👍

[@CssNychh]

tunedbyai AI fixes this. European family sportscars assessment.

[@Tmrfe0962]

This is such a great series gentlemen, thank you. It’s always a pleasure watching a couple of real car aficionados banter. An adult version of so much childish stuff out there. Thank you

[@JamesVaiciulis]

It’s great watching two car guys go at it. Reminds me of days at the ice cream shop.

[@codin-sorelureche2925]

Keep going Mr. Leno, you are on the right path.

[@adammoreve]

Jay, never fails to put a smile on my face.

[@lptomtom]

What a strange comma

[@donaldwilson2620]

I love this segment of Jay's Garage. The Mercedes-Benz W124 is one of my all-time favorite sedans. Whether it's the pedestrian 300E/E320 or the high performance limited edition 500E/E500, the W124 chassis was well engineered, solid, stylish, and very reliable.

[@halhenryg]

I really enjoy these two, Donald and Jay. great enjoyment with this series! Thank you, Gentlemen!

[@elsutil1983]

loving these episodes, remembering the "what's my car worth " sketches

[@ryancross8136]

Who’s here for the 500E?

[@Charly_Dont_Surf]

Roger that!

[@TheZl9000]

All day long !

[@yanik8]

Meeee

[@stonecloser]

Affirmative!

[@romulus_]

I've wanted one for quite some time, on the lookout for the right spec. patience.

[@bralph82]

Love y’all together. My favorite sitcom.

[@secaII]

This is a great car show! Could watch many more episodes. Thanks to the team that makes these videos.

[@Michael-cf9lf]

Good show to me we are looking at a selection of family cars that still hold a sporty look to them

[@mikefrancais]

I love the formula and format. You all are using in this series. Informative, good history, keeps me on the edge of my seat until the finale.

[@simonhunt7269]

Clicked on this one thinking I was going to see Mr Osborne celebrate the Rover SD1. Oh well. Still great 😅

[@bald1der]

I love these episodes with Mr Osborne

[@judgetk8327]

You're losing it, Jay. Lol. You are my greatest video guy on KZbin, and I have the utmost respect for you, Donald, and Johnathan Ward.

[@crherniman]

The same Jonathan Ward doing hot rods and steam engines? If so, Nice to see another Jonathan W fan here!

[@anthonyhaddix3598]

Love these shows, it's great to see you two try to out car guy one another. Two automobile aficionados going head to head, don't stop 😊

[@michaelshea5622]

So glad to see these videos. Mr Osborne has forgot more than we will ever learn. And he's a major class act. I have learned a lot from this series of videos.

[@colinwright81]

That looks pretty magnificent cars and stories too

[@ZeGermanHam]

The valuation numbers cited by Osborne in this video seem much higher than what I've seen them sell for recently. Referring to the M5 and 500E, specifically.

[@crherniman]

The Ferrari 80k 5yrs ago seemed high to me.

[@drownthepoor]

I've never been a huge fan of 4 door cars to be honest. However, because it's a Ferrari 4-door it's quite amazing. I love how they managed to keep the rear perfectly a Ferrari, and managed to make a sedan body and front end that meshes with it perfectly.

[@Arayig1982]

The Ferrari's a 2 door.

[@e28forever30]

@@Arayig1982 Indeed, someone needs glasses…

[@drownthepoor]

@@e28forever30 Oh definitely not my vision. It's 20/15. I always thought it was 4 door, and it's here with 2 other sedans that are 4 door.

[@radsk8rbigollies594]

I was right there with Leno, exact same picks. I love this segment.

[@BHBeckenbauer]

Donald and Jay together are just great 👏