Evaluating First-Year Quarterbacks, Anthony Richardson Benched With J.T. O' Sullivan |

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@pg-mr7ucdd
@pg-mr7ucdd 2 ай бұрын
Caleb is so clearly the best long term outlook on all these guys. He’s being held back by coaching but he’s clearly being asked to do the most right now
@larzakalazerath6655
@larzakalazerath6655 Ай бұрын
Really? Maybe he can only take so much coaching and that's starting to show. Maybe his just a "one trick pony" All I here is these excuses for why Caleb doesn't look better. To me it looks more like he is a lot more raw then what everyone thought he would be. More like what everyone say Maye is. It doesn't look like his pre snap reads are all that grate. Even that play he throws the ball to keenan when he was trying to call out the signal you can here stumbling over 2 or 3 times trying to call out the mike and just before the snap you here him say "Fuck it hike" lol probably his best play of the game was when he just went completely off script and his receiver just ran to an open spot . He looks labored going through his reads and rushed at lot of the times when he still has a pocket. Just very inconsistent which is what we normally see out of rookies.
@pg-mr7ucdd
@pg-mr7ucdd Ай бұрын
@that’s kind of the point is he’s being asked to do way more than Jayden. Jayden has training wheels on while Caleb is learning through trial and error
@BrandonBB4
@BrandonBB4 2 ай бұрын
My favorite part of this show is that you are willing to update your opinion as new evidence presents itself. When Bo was playing bad you said he wasn't playing well and mentioned the obvious possibility that he improves. He improves and you call out how much better he played. So much of the media is entrenched in their preseason takes, it's refreshing that you don't stick to an opinion just because you had an opinion.
@FlexileTheWolf
@FlexileTheWolf 2 ай бұрын
Agree 100%. JT is the man and really is awesome to learn QB play and evaluations, check out his KZbin if you haven't before
@craigfairbanks5875
@craigfairbanks5875 2 ай бұрын
I second this
@frankl3518
@frankl3518 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Robert is extremely fair
@orthoagnostic3364
@orthoagnostic3364 2 ай бұрын
Mays and J.T.---- Yes please
@frankl3518
@frankl3518 2 ай бұрын
2 of my favorite "friends" together. Let's Go!!
@larzakalazerath6655
@larzakalazerath6655 Ай бұрын
This whole thing about it's be easy for Jayden because so many first reads are getting open. Jayden is making it easer. He is doing really well at his presnap reads and changing the play call and alinements into those plays depending on what the defenses is showing. Defense's have had a hard time disguising their looks and I think he's really caught a lot of teams off guard with that. His agility has saved him on the fewer alinements he's miss read and he's progressed really fast at seeing the field when he's had to go through his progressions. I of the biggest things that I did notice on his collage tape that's really be apparent is how fast of a release he has and with the amount of velocity he can put on the ball and his anticipation throwing guys open. Those three things have been really impressive to me.
@deehill6719
@deehill6719 2 ай бұрын
this is something I NEVER KNEW I NEEDED
@HuyNguyen-ck7hl
@HuyNguyen-ck7hl 2 ай бұрын
Any channel that has JT as a guest is an automatic subscribe
@philibusters
@philibusters 2 ай бұрын
I saw a tweet from JrFortGang which had a table of percentage of throws that were first reads and EPA per throw on first reads based off PFF's data. In terms of percentage of throws that were first reads Daniels was at 61% which is right in the middle of the NFL (basically all QB's with a minimum 100 pass attempts were between 50% and 73%). However Jayden ranked first in EPA per play on first read throws. That could be scheme, it could be decisiveness or a combo of both, but the idea that he is at the very top of the NFL in percentage of his throws that are first read is not correct according to that table.
@rr-ic3no
@rr-ic3no 2 ай бұрын
great show
@offtoanotherworld7434
@offtoanotherworld7434 Ай бұрын
I think what we saw at the QB position in the preseason is what you got right now. I think on schedule throws are missing. The commanders had the same issues in years past. The conversation last year was separation with a QB that missed reads or probably frustrated receivers to a point of “why am I going all out in my routes”. In comes JD and all the sudden receivers are open.
@AndrejMilas
@AndrejMilas 2 ай бұрын
8:49 yessss
@ShiftyBTW
@ShiftyBTW 2 ай бұрын
JT! this is going to be great.
@ChewsCarefully
@ChewsCarefully 2 ай бұрын
It might be if the NFL didn't come down on analysts like JT for being Too Honest. No less than Kurt Warner himself has had to tone down what he says directly after he came down not even heavily on Greg Roman for what he was doing to the Ravens. Here's an example; I _know_ that Matt Eberflus is 100% responsible for everything being talked about here & not Shane Waldron. You know who told me? *Matt Eberflus. **_multiple times!!_* 1) He boasted that "I decide what plays to limit the offense to" after week 2 of '22. He'd never done a Single Thing on the offensive side of the ball previous to this yet 2 weeks as HC he thought his input was necessary. 2) After Fields "suddenly developed" a tendency to stop himself throwing to open receivers multiple times in the first game he did this the Bears didn't take him into concussion protocol. If Fields himself or a lesser coach's play-calls were harming the team he needed to look into it. Instead, he made threatening gestures at reporters who tried to ask him about these strange play-calling decisions. 3) Then after week 6 of '22 Fields *called out* the play-calling. The team changed their play-sets for 4 weeks then returned to the previous plays. If the Jets had discovered a way to get 2 more TDs out of Zach Wilson then returned to calling plays that didn't, Saleh & Hackett would be lucky if *all* that the fans did was put them on a train destined to an out of state location. The Bears *averaged* 31 points under one play-set, under 20 under the other. Just returning to the other should have gotten him fired & if you're going to take the line that this was all the OC's doing, then Eberlfus is merely Totally Incompetent for allowing it. 4) Week 2 of this year he threw his o-line players under the bus saying that the plays were great, only they were not executing them properly. He didn't say "Waldron's plays." He said "The Plays." This guy has all the earmarks of a "my way or the highway" tyrannical Josh McDaniels style of coach whom no one has ever held accountable. He's been *telling us he's calling the plays that sabotage the Bears' offense for **_over two YEARS now_* & because he "has charisma" people are ignoring this. The Bears could be averaging over 40 points a game now with Fields if it weren't for him.
@colinbowden4663
@colinbowden4663 2 ай бұрын
Lol throwing to Rome Odunze works out so often, we can't do it. We're the Bears, we don't do what works on offense.
@AreolaGrande94
@AreolaGrande94 2 ай бұрын
looking at the thumbnail image ... could Williams start to play better if he actually uses the laces? I've never played QB at a high level nor is my name JT O'Sullivan, but I'm pretty sure they're there solely for throwing purposes and to make passing easier with grip and everything.
@moisesflores3482
@moisesflores3482 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to tell folks Dj Moore isn’t that type of #1 WR. After being told all offseason how he is. Really refreshing to listen to the discussion about him.
@Shugoshin9720
@Shugoshin9720 2 ай бұрын
Oh did JT call bears fans sensitive again?
@pg-mr7ucdd
@pg-mr7ucdd 2 ай бұрын
Jayden Daniels has 7 passing TDs in 8 games. Caleb has 9 passing TDs in 7 games. The latter is the model for sustained success. Jayden is a sugar high
@mayowaerinle6541
@mayowaerinle6541 Ай бұрын
Lmao I like you just removed Jayden’s rushing tds and Caleb’s INTs. Y’all picked the wrong guy, Jayden is your owner 😂
@larzakalazerath6655
@larzakalazerath6655 Ай бұрын
Hum did you look at how many rushing TD's Washington has as a team not just how many JD has even himself even. Washington doesn't hasn't needed to throw has much once they get close they prefer to just pound it in. Stats alone can be very deceptive. It's just like QB's that stuff their stat sheet's when they are down by 2/3 scores and the D is giving up easy yards to just not get beat deep and run the clock out. and you think having 2 more is a big deal, really?
@pg-mr7ucdd
@pg-mr7ucdd Ай бұрын
@@mayowaerinle6541 rushing TDs for a QB? Who cares? I’m supposed to be impressed by Jalen Hurts tush pushes too?
@pg-mr7ucdd
@pg-mr7ucdd Ай бұрын
@@larzakalazerath6655 that’s kind of the point. Jayden hasn’t faced a negative game script yet. Let me see him deliver 2-3 TD drives when needing to. Right now he’s doing college stuff and it’s fine but the guy has 6 passing TDs in 8 games cmon. He has 2 INTs because they limit his throwing too
@ericbrown7721
@ericbrown7721 Ай бұрын
@@pg-mr7ucddgo check out bengals game and meet up back here
@scorpiothegreat1
@scorpiothegreat1 2 ай бұрын
I’ve never head the amount of excuses for a #1 overall pick as they give to Caleb. Nothing is his fault. Everyone else is to blame. The cope is crazy.
@miller3blade888
@miller3blade888 2 ай бұрын
They just said he was horrible for majority of that game, and even mentioned specific throws and scrambles.
@tvtda1
@tvtda1 2 ай бұрын
The left tackle spot wasn't a wreck a last game? like no one is saying he's perfect but he's a rookie, he shouldn't have to be, and the annoying part is when critics wanna dismiss fair excuses, and you'll say the cope is crazy, but ur just bloodthirsty to laugh at failure, you wanna make a big deal out of the fact his progress isn't linear, and thats even worse than optimistic coping.
@darrenjones5547
@darrenjones5547 2 ай бұрын
U spot on cause it’s so bad to the point I’m starting to think the NFL is paying them to say this stuff 🤦🏽‍♂️ Williams is playing like Bryce young 🤧
@reneewilliams5777
@reneewilliams5777 2 ай бұрын
​@@darrenjones5547if you think that you haven't watched much Bryce Young
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