Evangelion & The Death of Anime

[@StudioErsatz]

I've written a coda to this video concerning Evangelion's Lacanian themes, available to my tier 2 patrons here: www.patreon.com/posts/evangelion-lacan-64217028 Support me here: www.patreon.com/StudioErsatz Follow me here: twitter.com/PhD_Pataphysics Pause & Select's video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2OufGOLaMyWl6c& Andrew Robinson's article on Bakhtin: ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/in-theory-bakhtin-1/ Anno Hideaki interview (1996): kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJi9mIF3Zdmaq5Y

[@littleking1994two]

hey quick question, when shinji was seeing misato have sex and then the strangle scene was he actually talking to the recently dead characters or was that all in his own mind?

[@nathanyein]

would be awesome if you made a retrospective on the eva Rebuilds.

[@chrisgeorge619]

Think about Anno saying he wanted to be proud to admit he made Evangelion, and now it's a literal cultural piece, breaking box office records in Japan. He did it.

[@giffica]

He did not say that, he say he wanted Evangelion to be forgotten.

[@S2b_F0l]

Thanks Anno for being alive

[@dopaminecloud]

@@giffica He did say it.

[@giffica]

@@dopaminecloud No, he didn't. He said far more than that, and excluding context is the typical garbage your Anno fanboys do to justify your franchise.

[@ravenwhiteduck6460]

@@giffica so what did he say?

[@OlleMoquist]

Probably the best video essay on evangelion as a meta-narrative. I've never heard anyone talking about this perspective on the series and it's great to have another perspective on the series creation other than the often cited "depressed auteur" idea. Great vid!

[@OlleMoquist]

also, yes I do watch videos in 2x speed inb4 anyone asks

[@shaniavanhee5140]

@@OlleMoquist that's insane, 1.25 is the best imo. Sounds like I am still listening to a human xD

[@OlleMoquist]

@@shaniavanhee5140 True true. I guess I've been speeding it up for so long that I've acclimated to it. Nowadays I have a plug-in so that I can watch in whatever speed I want. I'm getting scaringly close to 3x.

[@christianerickson2660]

This has to be the best evangelion analysis I’ve ever seen. So well written and researched, I’d be comfortable and proud handing this in as a master’s thesis. Seriously. Amazing.

[@Flugmorph]

finally another evangelion analysis video, I was so starved for someone to finally analyze eva since that first and so far only video.

[@definitelynotethan7959]

Which video are you referring to? The EoE one?

[@Flugmorph]

@@definitelynotethan7959 look at the video description.

[@themagicmath8418]

This really isn’t an analysis of the overall storyline. This is just a discussion of the concepts and the ideology of Eva. There would be another hour added to the vid if that were discussed as well.

[@Flugmorph]

@@themagicmath8418 stop

[@yelnatsstanley7363]

@@Flugmorph "stop" 🤓

[@bon.8819]

Even though this vid is really ornate I was able to follow your points quite easily. I love that you looked at all the external reasons to how and why the show tells its messages. It reminds me of how my Sociology A-levels are structured, split between studying the Internal and External reasons to why an issue is occurring. Your previous Eva analysis is the Internal while this vid is the External. I also want to say that your use of Anno’s interviews really adds to the legitimacy of what you’re observing, it’s clear to me now how incredibly dense Eva is, Anno, and the other creators of the show who I can’t name, really had a lot going through their heads. I’m excited to see you grow as a creator, thank you!!! (Next time I’d love to see chapters on another long-form video, and I really wished you added subs to that Shinji line near the end.)

[@ChicagoMonsterPunk]

Travail de très très grande qualité, comme d’habitude.

[@RaidSpinel]

Hey man, never heard of this channel before, and I just decided to put this on and listen to it while I work on my own projects. I've put a lot of the stake in my own life on creating my own stories, out of sheer frustration with the acceptance of mediocrity in modern storytelling, be it books, movies, anime, manga, or video games. The message here went over my head on my first viewing of Evangelion, and your wonderful analysis of it has redoubled my efforts, maybe because there's so much to the story that I missed, or maybe because its comments on the state of the art form are so similar to my own. Just wanted to say you've given me more hope that the years ahead will be worth it. Also great commentary. You've got a good voice and the audio is well tuned. Perfect to listen to while I work.

[@miraidiver5981]

One of the better Eva analysis videos I’ve ever seen. Up there with The Curse of Evangelion video. I think Anno has since moved on from his End of Evangelion conclusion and made the Rebuilds as a kind of revised/fill in the gap ending.

[@EvRae23]

i love your content man. I could literally listen to you talk about damn near anything for ages and enjoy it. you always have such thoughtful, enlightening and creative perspectives, and i really appreciate it. thanks for taking the time to make these videos.

[@samuraidoge7284]

Holy Shit this is amazing. I don’t fully agree with the interpretation but this deserves way more views. Give yourself a pat on the back man.

[@JeremyRobson]

I like the term Freudian rivalry. It might explain the motivation behind a lot of creative processes. I think a lot of artists can relate.

[@rose_above_dark4908]

This deserves far more attention, your knack for sheer detail and research presented in an enjoyable format is truly something to marvel at

[@julesandmusic]

Loved it, you just get better and better man

[@jesuscryst3239]

I hope this one doesn't get taken down. I love your retrospectives

[@BarrettBiggers]

Very interesting video well done. I find it interesting how Anno says he would be embarrassed to sit in a bar and talk to a girl about being an animator. Given the over production and almost over saturation of anime into pop culture especially now here in the West I wonder how he would have approached things in today's world. Anime is so mainstream that "otaku" is almost a harmless joke and even somewhat normalized now. I remember being in high school in 1997 and first getting into bootleg anime VHS tapes haha and I was TERRIFIED to mention it to anyone given the harsh criticism of being a "nerd" or "otaku". I think every subculture trend has this early stage and some remain underground and it actually enhances it's appeal. I think anime has seen some great stories and animations but in general there is a lot of mass production units (no pun intended) and can feel templated now more than ever (Issekai anyone?). I find the Rebuild series to be interesting and actually like how he wrapped it up but I am a hard core fan of the original ending movie in 1998. Rebuild had a dramatic shift of perspective in his retelling of the story however I feel it was more of a "sarcasm" towards otaku fantasy withdraw issues. I really wonder how Anno would have approached Evangelion today if it had never been created in the past. But as an artist myself I can understand how you are never satisfied with your final work - there's always a better way to do it and it can always be improved. To be an artist is to struggle and he had the courage to keep going and create a cultural icon.

[@Swaggattack71]

Wake up babe new JumpTheShark Evangelion video essay!!!

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

Evangelion writer 1: "What exactly are we doing -- making characters pilot these mechs?" Evangellion writer 2: "...Well, isn't it kind of like controlling a human body, just bigger and covered in metal?" * stare at each other *

[@japansies7460]

*two guys who were in that same room immediately leave and start producing attack on titan the meaty mecha anime*

[@CubanLegend561]

why oh WHY didn't you subtitle the line at 57:16, now I'll be left wondering what the big question of "what to do with Anime" is summed up by... ;_;

[@donjuan3182]

same here bro :(

[@magatsuverison3835]

He asks why ayanami rides the Eva

[@Nobody-ci7hv]

Any chance we will get a Video on rebuild of EVA? Because the end seems very straight forward Shinji creates a new reality for himself and safes the old one for everyone who came to terms with what happend. So they can life in piece with their lifes that they created, example: Asuka finding companionship in Kensuke. But when you think about it there are plotholes that I cant figure out like Asuka, Rei, Kaworu and the explosive necklace being at the trainstation in the new "reality" where Evas never existed. Which doesnt make any sense since 2 of them are hinted to be clones while the other is an Angel which wouldnt exist in that universe. The other thing that I cant fit into the narrative is the discussion betwen Mari and Fuyutsuki in which it is hinted that they know each other and Mari being a traitor "Judas-figure". I know there was some fantheory that Mari was a younger self (or perhaps child) of a Scientist Gendo and Yui worked with but never really made any sense to me. Fuyutsuki exploding into orange juice like the Rei Clone doesnt really fit either because how could he be a clone if he is supposed to have been Gendos and Yuis mentor. Really love your essays and perspective on the more underlying reasons and would be interesting to see how you deal with the rebuilds considering your know how and knowledge about the original.

[@Victor-um9ce]

Kensuke is more of a father figure then a partner to Asuka I'd say. And it's weird, since making a completely seperate reality is exactly what NGE and EoE was against doing, the end of evangelion was about accepting your life as it is without trying to use escapism to avoid the problems of your life completely. That's why in EoE and the end of NGE we saw different realities created by Shinji's subconscious that would be better than the current one but he settles with what he has trying to continue with his life and start actually liking himself. This ending seems like another form of escape for Shinji a world without any of the pain of piloting the Eva which isn't what either the end of the original series or the movie had in mind, and the way Shinji and Rei call it Neon Genesis is making me believe that the rebuilds are one of these realities that Shinji created at the original human instrumentality project and it just loops back into the originals with the blue sea and lack of red slash across the moon.

[@feanor7187]

Very rarely do I log on youtube, and very rarely if at all do I leave a comment. This video is a well deserved exception. You've come further than most in understanding Evangelion. However, I think you have only taken the first step in this direction. There is still much more that has been left unsaid, and that's probably by design: after all, 'anime' as 'animation' is the focus of this video. This is no coincidence: 'anime' begins with Space Battleship Yamato, before that, we have what Japanese fans called Terebi Manga. The shift from Terebi Manga to Anime came when fans like young Anno started caring about the animation process itself. This collective gain in awareness finally materialized with the first Gundam movie, and the Proclamation of the New Age. Shin Seiki Sengen, Shin Seiki Evangelion. That's where the starting point is. Evangelion and the Rebuild are anime about anime, they narrate a story about history. It is no coincidence that the Rebuilds have the Third Impact occur in the second movie, as opposed to the end of the series: the world of the Third Impact, after all, is still roughly twenty years behind when compared to the world in which Rebuild is being projected on screen. All in all, good stuff. I hope you keep it up.

[@golgarisoul]

I'm watching this video NOW as opposed to later. Goshdarn studio khara!!

[@eonstar2441]

FACTS

[@sprawlz6466]

This a phenomenal video that a lot of Evangelion critics should watch. I feel like whenever people try to claim the series "failed" in some way, they always tend to miss the point of why the series existed in the first place. People are allowed to dislike it, that's completely fine, but some of the reasoning I hear people use is just ridiculous. All you gotta say is "I thought it was boring" lol, there's nothing wrong with that

[@thomasffrench3639]

Great analysis on Evangelion. The history of anime is so important for Eva, but most people who analyze it are only familiar with 90s-now anime so don’t have the context to get a fully realized analysis, so I thank you for that. Evangelion is hated by a large portion of people who are mecha fans that call it not unique, but this video proves how important it was to the genre and medium so that you for that.

[@ssaritachann]

imo the isekai genre is escapism from the reality of how saturated anime had become. but in trying to escape the then present cycle of anime tropes and production its actually come to oversaturate anime even more. It maybe extreme but personally its hard to to not see the similarities between the rise of the isekai genre with the rise of hikikomori. (im not assuming hikikomori are all otaku or anime fans , but i think the timing for the two say something on its own)

[@cresentdragon]

Very interresting analysis, i never thought to place the meaning and ideology of Evangelion in the context of the history and heritage of anime and it's progenitors. It gives it a depth and reach that feels much more apt than how popular opinion makes it out to be no more the semi-coherent ramblings of a madman expressed through a "childrens" medium. Even though i stand by the fact that it does view as such when taken at face value and as such more than deserves it's reputation as "insane".

[@josueflores4071]

what was the line shinji speaks near the end of you're video? it wasn't translated. By the way great video. Instead of describing the series as one man vomited out his depression and symbolic interests, you gave careful consideration into the craft and influences that made Eva great and found better meaning there than most videos on this site describe it.

[@user-pr4up1ge8c]

The line was "Why do you pilot your Eva, Ayanami?" Never too late amirite

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

NGE was not only a life changer but an incredible insight into the meta of anime itself. As its own show, its phenomenal. As a critique of the medium of anime, its an entirely different beast on its own.

[@balaclava__music]

@Gwapa snuna modern people in Japan at that time were differentiated greatly from the previous generation partly because of anime

[@paulmares9815]

Anno Hideaki? Deconstruction of the mecha genre? Postmodern condition of characters? What are you talking about? Snap out of it and finish your set, bro

[@thomasffrench3639]

“I’m a mecha fan and I hate when people say Eva was unique, because my robot show was better”

[@mariotriforce]

Finally a evangelion analysis that analyses Eva in with the lose ideas of the Frankfurt school :)

[@mariotriforce]

@Gwapa snuna like fair (mainly because I don't think most understand the works of the Frankfurt school or are now branding it as progressive) but in my opinion Eva was allways counter to the Culture Industry even in the original series, just anno muddeyed it and made people delve deeper into escapism hence mememe & the rebuilds god the culture Indus has only gotten so much worst tho sigh...

[@RardTangler]

@@mariotriforce I think you’re either confused or just incorrect, no offense. Critical theory has been taught in Uni for most of the 20th century, and is pretty straightforward in purpose: the identification and confrontation of “oppressive” societal power structures & liberation of society through ideology.

[@mariotriforce]

@@RardTangler just because it's taugh dosen't mean that people understand it, the culture industry in the modren age controls people even more to buy into capitalism -Compare liberalism now to in the 60s-, people are so lost nowadays, anno tryed to make people live & yet so many are trapped in their cults/echo chambers in the modren age on both the left & right. Just because theirs more anti-capitalists now dosen't mean people have escaped capitalism - look at minimum the rise in femboy culture (at that I respect the people I just cretique what's it doing to people) - It also dosen't help that philosophy had thinkers that the culture industry was bad in the 50s/60s just they got distracted by the meaning of objects for some reason...

[@RardTangler]

@@mariotriforce I think you may be con5fusing what’s causing societal decay. And while I can agree that laze fare capitalism will inevitably create a top-down dictated economy, capitalism isn’t the cause of the deepening ideological divide and/or the fall of the West. Whether you realize it or not, our demise has been decades in the making. And culture doesn’t always dictate economy, especially progressive, diverse ideology. Ever heard the term “Get woke, go broke”? Anyway, that is neither here, nor there and a subject for another time. As far as Evangelion is concerned, as well the video essay, it explores the meta-narrative of what the show represents. What happened within the “Otaku” culture, what stunted their emotional and cultural growth has nothing to do with any ambiguous ideological or cultural power structures, it was the collective trauma they suffered being the first and only victims are nuclear warfare. There is a reason NO ONE has initiated it since; the absolute destruction and inhumane suffering it caused is beyond the scope of anything civilized nations would ever consider inflicting on even the worst of people. To be honest, the creation of the mech genre of manga is directly tied to the bombings, not to mention the countless references made in modern manga/anime. It is said that the best art comes from the worst tragedies...

[@bringinthedope5929]

@@RardTangler at what time could that subject be talked about? Regarding your first few sentences

[@TheGamer4702]

This was great, and I'd love to see your thoughts on the rebuilds as well.

[@lucasborja6981]

I just want to ad something. Not all anime rejects Evangelion message, for example FMA 2003 (warning spoiler) is for me a continuation of Evangelion philosophy a return to reality, a metaphorical (with the deconstruction of equivalent exchange in what Edward trusted blindly) and a literal (with the other side of the gate) one. Sorry if I'm not clear or if my sentences are weird, english is not my native language.

[@breadeater1194]

Oh definitely. I think Revolutionary Girl Utena and Oregairu are some other anime that pull on that theme of "move on from things and see the world". It does seem like that theme has continued to be the counterculture though.

[@lucasborja6981]

@@breadeater1194 ok I will watch those anime when I'll got some time. Thanks for the recommandation.

[@redlinrangerstudio5331]

Agreed, along side devilman, godzilla singler point and even getter robo arc.

[@dopaminecloud]

@@redlinrangerstudio5331 Interesting to include Arc. I believe Arc/Getter as a whole (ishikawa's work, not the non-canon fanboy adaptations) transcends the overall silly absolutist message of "return to reality" or thinking escapism is inherently bad and jumps right for the existential jugular of struggling with determinism within a complex system aimed at nothing but unsustainable growth until the world collapses under its weight. Characters are compelled to struggle, cannot validate the reasons for their struggle and can't make themselves stop until its time at which point they often experience a revelation about the inevitability of it all. Worrying about otakuism or even the small pains of being stuck with our busted sense of self seems childish when held in the same picture. Like panicking over the spider on your thigh when you're about to be in a violent drawn out car crash.

[@redlinrangerstudio5331]

@@dopaminecloud I wouldn't called it a cash grab, to me and others it's a huge love letter to Ken ishikawa. It's even more then just a simple adaptation as I think it expand the story and added elements that Ken would be impressed.

[@Italian_Isaac_Clarke]

YAY! My comment is no longer avayable because [REUPLOAD]!

[@alwaysangry2232]

votoms mentioned, you earned a sub

[@秋山稜介]

エヴァンゲリオン新劇場版は庵野秀明監督の自伝だった 旧劇場版からどのように庵野さんが立ち上がってきたかがわかる 旧劇場版と同じように新劇場版も我々視聴者に訴えかけているように感じる 新劇場版も解説して欲しいです

[@unlimitedpanda5433]

great video

[@Nerevarine420]

Probably the best video I've seen on evangelion

[@wtfimcrying]

i like to think of it as a reflection of the Japanese population at the time, if anything.

[@gnnr222]

Great video!

[@Freffs]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video and I need to know what movie that drunken bear is from please and thank you 🙏🏻

[@StudioErsatz]

Can you give me a timestamp? I genuinely don't recall a drunken bear appearing in this video

[@Freffs]

@@StudioErsatz In the dialogism chapter when Dostojevskij is mentioned there's a movie clip in the background

[@StudioErsatz]

@@Freffs Oh, that's the 1958 Brothers Karamazov adaptation

[@Freffs]

@@StudioErsatz Thank you very much! Again, great video. ✌🏻

[@benvincent6473]

excellent video

[@Atomsk484]

Amazing examination of such an incredible series. I can't wait to hear your take on the rebuild!

[@andrean733]

This is amazing. Please do make something on the rebuuld.

[@peterxyz3541]

I’m not sure if Anno or anyone favour limited animation. It’s more practical, how to meet limited resources (time, labour). Some situation, greatness can be achieved when under a deadline. Without a limit, people can be paralysed with choices.

[@galenpemberton4382]

Thank you for the video, JumpTheShark. I'm surprised that you did not mention the irony in Evangelion contributing to Otakuism and the problems Anno highlighted rather than diminishing them. Then later with the Rebuild movies, I feel Anno ultimately became what he had once criticized. Pandering to the same people who he called children. For me it is very depressing to see. But perhaps you would have a different take on the matter.

[@gloomywheel8378]

I'm in the same boat as you, He talked briefly near the end about anime doubling down on the escapist culture but what he didn't really mention was that Eva ironically was a major contributor to that culture. I've talked to a good handful of Eva fans and most of them despite loving the series either failed to piece together its themes on escapism or simply didn't care enough to try and draw any meaning from the show, usually because they get caught up in the convoluted nonsensical plot of Eva. This miscommunication between the viewer and the anime led to the serious catastrophe that was Eva's lasting effect on the anime industry, it tried to convey these themes and the people it tried to convey them to just want cool robot fights. Because of this Evangelion got contorted, Rei and Asuka ended up being targets for extreme sexualization even though Eva originally tried to keep any sexual imagery as meaningful commentary instead of fanservice. From what I see this is what the first the 2.22 and 3.33 rebuilds aimed to correct and I thought they did it quite well. In 2.22 Anno essentially gave the fans an Evangelion fanfiction filled with essences of meaningless fanservice, anime trope harem shit, and even a mary sue. 3.33 Is where this mostly ends and starts focusing on what to do going forward. The thing I like about these shows is the themes take center stage and are spelled out quite simply. 3.0 + 1.0 felt like Anno caving in and trying to return to his artsy ways filled with a convoluted nonsensical plot except this time with a ton of fanservice. Did you not like any of the rebuilds or just certain ones in particular?

[@galenpemberton4382]

@@gloomywheel8378 I agree and disagree with you in a few areas. I liked 1.11. It was just a recap essentially I know, but there was a scene in it that actually improved upon the original source material by demonstrating the hedgehog dilemma flawlessly. Shinji is on the escalator with Rei and ask questions while stepping closer to her only to be slapped in the face once he insults Gendo. All the while one of my favorite songs from the series, Dilemmic Triangle played softly in the background. It was very well done and gave me hope for the rest of the Rebuild Movies. I liked 2.22 well enough. I say this because unlike the original series, it went out of its way to highlight the progression of Rei developing a personality and how that was affecting her decisions and relationships. It was something I craved greatly when watching the original series and was glad to see it. Did that make up for Mari's BS introduction and the frankly stomach curling amount of butt shots ruining serious moments? I say it breaks even. Also Shinji gaining agency and saving Rei was something I also enjoyed and made me excited for the future Rebuild movies. 3.33 was so awful that me and my friend who I watched all the Rebuild Movies with kept pausing because we were either laughing too hard or were considering stopping. It introduced several new characters. It was super obvious that the new females were just there to sell figurines btw. The new characters that mind you, not a single person cares about, took up far too much screen time. The plot was entirely nonsensical and took the BS jargon to level 99. So, I'd say I'm something of an expert and the macguffins and plot in Eva, right? But I was completely lost. There's too much for me to say honestly on why 3.33 was one of the worst things I've ever seen, but lets fast forward to the end. So Shinji sees the two spears. Literally everyone is telling him not to grab it. Even kaworu, the person who literally knows everything and Shinji is like "nah, that's them." It was hilarious. Also Rei being another random clone and having no memories made 1.11 and 2.22 seem completely pointless. Moving on to Thrice Upon a Time, I knew it was impossible to save this mess of a movie franchise and was right. The CGI was so bad btw that I almost quit 10 minutes in. Once again more characters no one knows anything about getting screen time. Shinji is catatonic half the movie. Asuka being annoying without the depth she used to have. Mari exists. Speaking of Mari, isn't she actually like 50 or something??? Let's just ignore that I guess. Rei's "Arc" felt pointless. Not to mention Asuka mentioned that Rei was just programmed to like Shinji anyway so nothing she did mattered. By the end of the movie I was just praying for it all to end. The ending was actually not too bad. I liked the framing device of closing up a movie set. However, Shinji getting with Mari was a final middle finger to everyone who had questioned her existence. I have more I could go into detail with but won't. Mostly because my carpel tunnel is acting up this week. However, I want to address how you mentioned the plot was convoluted and nonsensical in the OG show. I'll just say the major difference in show and the Rebuild movies was the focus. The plot in the show and EoE serviced the characters and remained a fascinating backdrop that in itself was almost a character. Meanwhile in the Rebuild movies they throw out random jargon as if its relevant and we should care about it when it doesn't service the story and definitely not the characters. Ultimately, Eva's existence and lasting impact is the type of great irony not even fiction could capture.

[@gloomywheel8378]

@@galenpemberton4382 Well the thing is with 2.22 the bad tropy writing is kinda the point. Its suppose to be a contorted world in which Anno gives the "problematic fans" the evengelion that they thought they wanted. Theres a lot of evidence to show that this is intended. developing Rei more and shinji acting on his own volition more is also part of this, realistically these characters shouldn't be acting this way, Rei shouldn't be so easily subjected to emotions and should be showing more resistance while shinji shouldn't be as confident and decisive but they are in the movies because that's what the audience claims to want. Even you yourself said you wanted this. As for 3.33 I will die on the hill that this movie is good. You mention it introducing new characters but outside of the already established characters in the Eva world the only new characters I can think of that were introduced were the crew members and toji's little sister. Midori is the only girl I can think of possibly selling any figurines but shes really not significant enough to do that. Can you mention specifically which new character got too much screentime? I don't really remember any of the new characters having much screentime at all. You also mentioned the plot brought the jargon up significantly but the plot of 3.33 is insanely straight forward compared to that of the original, I still don't understand the underlying plot of the original series even after watching 2 or 3 videos on it but I understood 3.33's story on first watch. Shinji nearly caused thrid impact, Misato rebelled against NERV after learning about instrumentality and near the end shinji nearly causes fourth impact, The only jargon BS I can see in there really is how the two spears work but that's still much simpler than anything that happens in the original. You mention the scene where shinji grabs the two spears, but it makes complete sense for shinji to actually do this despite being told by asuka and (near the end) kowaru not to. Shinji literally destroyed almost the entire world by trying to save Rei in 2.22 and is left with nothing, not even Rei as a result. Kowaru convinced Shinji that if they retrieve the spears they can make everything right again, even after kowaru realizes this isn't true he isn't able to convince shinji about it because this is the only road shinji sees for any sort of redemption. he's become infatuated with the slightest chance of being able to undo the destruction he brought upon his world (hence the name of the movie being called "You Can (Not) Redo") and once again makes an impulsive decision which in this case ends up costing him his only friends life. Lastly, Rei being a clone is actually a pretty genius metanarrative. In third impact Shinji sacrificed the world in order to save Rei, essentially giving up on the world if it means he can be with his "waifu" and when he does this what does he get? A hollow shell of a person that only aims to be whatever shinji wants her to be and has no agency of her own, essentially a "waifu" and not a really person, which is what he actually wanted. as for 3.33 yea I cant tell you what the fuck happened in that shit.

[@galenpemberton4382]

@@gloomywheel8378 So thanks for the response. You're different perspective is very interesting since there are few people I get to discuss this with. So to be clear, I didn't want the Rebuild movies to be the same as the show, since then it would be kind of pointless. You didn't accuse me of that, but I feel the need to say that to justify my liking of 2.22. Shinji gaining more agency as a person and Rei developing a personality were things I enjoyed because yes, I did want to see it, but also because I thought it was going to be the foundation of something else in the later movies. 3.33 felt like a punishment to watch. Maybe that was brilliant now that I'm thinking about it. 3.33 wasn't entertaining in any way. Crushed the hope you had after watching 2.22 that any amount of good could ever be achieved no matter how much you want it. And you say it was very coherent in what actually happens as if that's always a good thing. The oddly surreal and nonsensical background, for me anyway, was a reflection of the characters mental state in the show. The story for 3.33 was as dull as the set design and characters, which now that I think about it might also have been intentional after the vibrant nature of 2.22. The crew of the Battleship Yamoto or whatever the airship Misato was the captain didn't actually take up as much screen time as I thought. They mostly just featured in the first 10 to 15 minutes or so. The pink haired girl in the crew I felt was definitely a bid at selling some figurines as she got the most speaking roles of the group later in Thrice. For some reason it just felt that the crew had gotten more screen time on the first watch. My bad. As for the explanation on the two spears, it makes a lot more sense explained in that way, however, it will still always be funny to me. Also, after hearing out your explanation I do agree with you on Rei. I think the reason I didn't like it was because I was expecting something more akin to Rei 3. That was a bit short sighted on my part to be honest. So ultimately, 3.33 was just really boring. This coming from someone who finds more enjoyment in great dialogue than a fight scene. It trivialized the 3rd Impact into just some random event. I think Mari got less screen time than in 2.22 now that I think about it so maybe that was a improvement lol. I still have no idea why Kaowru put that collar on himself and didn't just throw it away. Maybe I missed something. There wasn't a single character who I felt even a remote interest in, nor was there a single plot point I felt a remote interest in. Maybe that's a failing on my part.

[@bringinthedope5929]

@@galenpemberton4382 what about the final film?

[@Horseofhope]

Great analysis. Now we'll see if you can explain what the hell was Anno thinking making the Rebuilds.

[@Jayfive276]

“Ass-uh-ka” *eye twitch* But yeah, great video 😁

[@AnimeFriedChicken]

Cool video my dude

[@tennoio1392]

Maybe you need the psychology of the author to explain the reasons and story behind the project. But it has nothing to do with the esthetical worth of the work of art, nor with the cultural impact of the work. I wish people would shut up about Anno's depression and instead talk about the product of his work.

[@RothurThePaladin]

Great video.

[@claracastilhooliveira3793]

Great video. Nice seeing an analysis of evangelion that doesn't go down the freudian rout.

[@samiolenberg4642]

This feels like an scientific publication

[@alfredimdoguandu]

outstanding

[@chlopaczekhula3524]

I really hope you didn’t make this video just because you felt pressured to do so. I want to see stuff that you want to make, because I think it’s healthier for the community in the long run as this stuff can lead to burnout and stuff. Besides that I’m currently half way in and the video is really good (as usual) so congratulations.

[@apekkusu4563]

Gdzie hulasz?

[@misstake6993]

Yeah I found this channel due to evangelion, but it is so much more. Even if this video is great, JumpTheShark, you should keep doing what you find best, don't get pushed by the audience. Thank you for this vid.

[@marcinkuc9349]

If this is his video made for wider audience, I'm afraid of more niche work :v

[@m.a.9571]

This is like ten thousand times more effort to whatever Netflix did to evangelion itself.

[@eonstar2441]

im sitting myself down and absorbing this

[@4dhumaninstrumentality789]

I never noticed the Thelema symbol at 17:24. This show is just too cool for school.

[@retrotrackers6528]

How much did you read in the process of making this video lol. invu. Great vid, bro.

[@neotokioboi5152]

Omega Genesis: Evangelion.

[@NerasW]

sone1 have a working link for Anno's interview ?

[@FistofSpirit]

45:06 Video: deep analysis of Evangelion and the thinking behind it My brain: IS THAT BEAR CHUGGING AlCoHOL??!

[@lucasborja6981]

Your work on this essay is great ! You realy do justice to the greatness of this show !

[@sparkyspartan5112]

Great analysis video. I really liked your other Evangelion videos as well. Great job!

[@vic8845]

the commentary made here is among some of the best i've seen on this website. 10/10, i love this video

[@barneymcnickles9801]

we're eating today boys

[@emmanuelfernandez1259]

In summary: fatherless activities

[@Joaza998]

I never clicked so fast

[@greatsupper]

I like the outer narrative of Eva. I wouldn't like the show nearly as much if it was just the sum of its parts and was an interesting story about giant robots and christianity. I love how in the end it goes "forget about all of this, let's talk about you. How are you?"

[@dharmadefender3932]

It's based on Gnosticism more than Christianity.

[@LothairApoclyane]

To be fair, I may have missed The End of Evangelion and assumed that the third movie was that movie - I'll plan to seek it out so that I can rightfully hate it later as I tend to expect to based on the Rebuild.

[@jade3866]

Sometimes I wonder if we will ever get an anime as influential, artistic, and ground breaking as evangelion ever again…

[@hailrugal2695]

Yeah it's called the "ten thousand other shows out in the wild for the non close minded"

[@jebusauriorets]

@@hailrugal2695 i would love to check them out pls drop the sauce

[@hailrugal2695]

@@jebusauriorets I can't I don't have any in the fridge unfortunately. 😔

[@peen2804]

@@hailrugal2695 internet person cant give examples to back up pedantic comment. in other news the sky is blue. story at 9

[@hailrugal2695]

@@peen2804 Well to me it wasn't about naming sources it was about a stupid statement I was poking fun @ but are you really gonna sit & tell me that that statement is true when you know it's not?

[@redlinrangerstudio5331]

The death of anime 2021: you sat on a throne of lies lol love you video still.

[@creathechiboi]

dude, the world is sending me to many signs, i just started watching NGE

[@catsrule8844]

Me too! I bet KZbin knows somehow. Like Netflix and KZbin both keep that data and share it with each other to provide us content and advertisements targeted directly at us. I mean, I bet as much at least!

[@realdomdom]

Why beat the dead horse then? Ah, greetings fellow hypocrite.

[@durfdurffigan8680]

are you serious about this being the last Eva video you'll make?

[@kimberlycaritas]

Incredible analysis, man. This is going to be a video I think about for a long time.

[@Americanfunguy]

Beautiful, thank you

[@yahyaasahbi]

jesus man touch grass

[@JAPANESE_MAPLE]

Evangelion is my fav show man love that shit

[@mct478]

Glad I got to see this before the inevitable take down and rehosting!

[@lovesoderpalm1555]

This video is really underwatched

[@gregmcmill1798]

ok now do the rebuilds :)

[@MoKuZai]

what are we talking about

[@duck-yw2gk]

Yay, I can watch it now!

[@calcium8347]

not a day goes by that i dont think about evas meta, great video!

[@wesleyleigh4063]

Okay, but what about it as a rendering of existence, and of carnal desires and an inability coexist with others? I mean shit you said a lot yet I gleaned almost none of what you said about it from the show. It's very surreal and open ended but I still think it'll remain mostly about the trials of human relationships and of perpetually illusory nature of existence than about a deconstruction or reflection of Japanese culture, anime and present or past metanarratives, mostly because they matter far more in my opinion.

[@crashmatrix]

Welcome back, and goodbye.

[@juanleon1138]

Ano lacked imagination in the new remakes he again just made cookie cutter anime for money for start up his own studio no heart no soul no one will remember 2.0+

[@axelmalm2642]

This was the best

[@kgblagden]

Interesting video but if I've learned anything from the rebuilds it's that Anno defiantly isn't who deserves the entire credit. He's an excellent director and visionary but I think his writing is actually pretty jank. Evangelion is a product of the most talented artists of its era, it isn't a product of one man, and the Rebuilds proved it. They suffered Prequel syndrome, nuff said.

[@Jayfive276]

There’s a behind the scenes doc of the making of the final rebuild film - Anno surrounds himself with very talented people, drives them (and himself) to breaking point but those staff are fiercely loyal and will run through brick walls for him. These people are the one who interpret the things in Anno’s head and deserve as much credit for that as he does for coming up with them.

[@kgblagden]

​@@Jayfive276 And there were plenty of talented people who were fiercely loyal to Lucas. Maybe if they were a little less willing to "run through brick walls for him" and give a little push back on his shittier ideas and could maybe even share their own then the films would've turned out infinitely better.

[@breadeater1194]

That argument doesn't hold up unless you can actually name and give examples of who these missing writers are. The loss of animators like Yoshinari and Imaishi is unfortunate, but a lot of the writers of the original were still there. I think the reasons for the Rebuilds' shortcomings is just as simple as that the same people made another thing and it wasn't as good. It's also hard to say Anno fails as an auteur when you look at the credits. Anno shared the director credit for all the Rebuilds with at least two other people per movie. Meanwhile Godzilla, which he only had one co-director on, was better than all of them. He absolutely does not deserve all the credit, because collaborative art shouldn't work that way, but he's still a unique talent and I don't think a better staff would have fixed the issues with Rebuild. (Also I think regardless of who you credit for Eva's writing, the points in the video hold up, maybe even better since the video does say, consistently "Eva is not just one man's feelings")

[@Jayfive276]

@@kgblagden why does someone’s have to come along and make EVERYTHING about f**king Star Wars?

[@HelloOnepiece]

@Gwapa snuna you just described the entire nge/lotr/SW fanbase.

[@saltedcaramel5976]

Finally, someone who mentioned Japan’s sick obsession over childhood and youth

[@Blafina]

I always love me hearing some more about Evangelion. Glad the algorithm knows that as well. Btw, interesting perspective, some parts of it I’ve heard before, but all together it still makes a lot of sense/more sense.

[@kat8559]

Fantastic work as usual

[@drinkyourtea]

Evangelion is a masterpiece but even Anno feels not enough pride in his work? I would feel honored to meet Anno

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

It's not what he means. Voice actors only feel like stars when they're at a convention or something. In everyday life, they don't feel so important. It's a bit like that. Society respects a great writer or a great film director, but an anime director? Who cares. He makes fluff for a living. Like Anno said -- you're not going to convince a girl in a bar you're a big player because you make Asian cartoons. We can appreciate that isn't the case, if only for the pathological amounts of stress animators are under -- but on the whole, they are not seen as producing something important for posterity or what have you. And that's shameful. Not just for the anime productions that don't go that extra mile or the audiences who miss out, but society that let's the potential of the medium pass it by. What I beileve Anno is saying is the medium should aim to be taken seriously as art, not just to achieve satisfaction. And for that to happen, the people who consume anime need to demand it. It's a tall order for all concerned. The same issue is faced in gaming. We have to assert games are art because we can't quite convince ourselves that it is. It has too many guilty associations with it.

[@drinkyourtea]

@@amanofnoreputation2164 yeah I understand that but I'm saying in my eyes he is a genius I know people would disagree with me but I feel Eva is different in a way some people aren't able to grasp.

[@bartandaelus359]

While i appreciate the work put into this video i can't help but think that a lot of what you're diving into here isn't conscious work on behalf of the studio. some of the ideas presented come across as pandering to pseudointellectualism, drawing lines between figures that don't necessarily exist within the media itself. Utilising the word 'Freudian' in the context it is in a lot of places here is kind of just incorrect but certainly serves to enhance the *cromulence* of the video. That aside, there are a lot of interesting angles that, even if they don't hold up to further scrutiny or are easily dismissed, are worth hearing. It's a lens through which i hadn't seen the show viewed although i do think that some effort could have been made to reducing the discourse about Yamato and various other cold war era anime that have... nearly no bearing on the title of the video whatsoever. I can't necessarily say that i enjoyed the video, but i can certainly say that i appreciate it.

[@StudioErsatz]

The discussion surrounding Yamato and other "cold war era anime" is relevant because it demonstrates a shift in these creators' outlook on the medium. To put it simply, one is more optimistic about the potential of this technological endeavour that is anime, and the other is more pessimistic. This pessimism, as embodied in Evangelion, manifests itself as a "death," or perhaps even the murder of the medium, by stepping back out into reality. That's... what the title means. Yamato, being one of the most influential anime of all time (especially on Anno's generation), justifies its position as an object of analysis in this video. As is explained in the video. And, naturally, in a video all about the development of artists' attitudes towards the medium and genre conventions, it's important to mention earlier mecha anime as well. With regards to your other points: I don't believe all of this was a "conscious" decision on behalf of the studio, and I don't know why that would be relevant. The socio-cultural context speaks for itself. Unless you hold the position that this context does not in any way affect artistic production, then it must be taken into account. And, needless to say, Freud is of course relevant to a discussion of Evangelion, as his ideas are adressed at various levels of explicitness throughout the course of the series, but also because I'm working within Bloom's framework of Freudian rivalries.

[@greenmareviews]

This is the best video I've ever watched on KZbin!

[@justapun8115]

This is a video I needed to watch. Thank you so much.

[@GreenSamurai2]

I like this analysis a lot. But think you should go in to further detail on some of the comparisons. Not everyone has an understanding of old and ancient charictal archetypes. I'm not saying I need it. *Cough* I just think somepeople will not understand those references. *Cough* Now I need to go see a doctor about this cough.

[@jordancoswell]

Does this video spoil the post-End of Evangelion movies?

[@StudioErsatz]

nope

[@jordancoswell]

@@StudioErsatz awesome, thanks

[@trrebi981]

@@StudioErsatz righteous

[@EPAZOTEking]

I'm going to watch the whole thing this time, in case it gets taken down again.

[@andreiiiksavvv6054]

Are you ever gonna finish that lost retrospective?