Every Inaccuracy In Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters No Matter How Long It Takes

[@OptimusPhillip]

Corrections! Chiron describes the emetic Zeus gave to Kronos as being made of mustard and wine in _The Lightning Thief,_ but Percy claims in _Percy Jackson's Greek Gods_ that it actually was made of mustard and nectar, as wine would not be invented until after the Titan War and the birth of Dionysus. I took a bit of creative liberty when describing Tantalus's punishment. In the books, Tantalus was cast into the Fields of Punishment, not Tartarus. I chose to say he was cast into Tartarus because that's how the traditional Greek legend goes, and I figured that would be more immediately familiar to the uninitiated. Nico's last name is di Angelo, not d'Angelo. I always get those two mixed up, and never remember to check. It seems there's a lot of confusion surrounding my statement that "No human had ever gone into Tartarus and lived until Nico di Angelo." To be clear, I am aware that Percy, Annabeth, and later Will Solace all survived Tartarus as well. My intent with that statement wasn't to say that Nico was the _only_ person to go into Tartarus and live, but that he was the _first,_ and that first came later in the timeline. Hence my use of the word "until". I forgot to sin the movie for cutting the part where Tyson gets an internship working at Poseidon's underwater forges. Have no idea how that slipped past me, considering that it's basically the same sin as cutting out Grover leaving camp to search for Pan, which I not only sinned in the first video, but also quoted in this one.

[@ai6896]

🤯

[@michaelcarlton1484]

To be fair, they are basically the same. The second one is just the first one said a bit fast.

[@thescarIetbitch]

potato potahto bro your good

[@DarthMolgy]

​@@thescarIetbitch*"Who the hell says potahto?!"* - Tifa Lockhart, Final Fantasy VII Machinabridged

[@MorganSaph]

21:55 Poseidon never owned the sword. It belonged to Zoe, the daughter of Atlas. She gave it to Heracles and then it somehow ended up in Chiron's hands a few millennia later, probably given to him by Heracles, since Chiron taught him (though that last bit is never mentioned in the book, so it's just a theory). Fun fact about Nico's name, since it is Italian, the full name could be translated as Son of an/the Angel or Angel's Son.

[@lovefromwonderland]

I love how dangerously close this is to being the entire movie’s runtime lmao

[@mariahudson2062]

Should be

[@therealsleepingbeauty3]

He could get away with just using the whole movie and adding a sin every 30 seconds

[@akiraevangelionultimateali5199]

It’s like an edition of the movie with him roasting it for being unfaithful

[@johnyshadow]

@@therealsleepingbeauty3 I kinda want to erase that 0 at the end, but that might be pushing it a bit far.

[@gtdc4685]

Should of been longer than the movie

[@Theamazingchubaness]

The +1000 sins for may castellan slander is so real

[@paristracy8517]

i searched through 40 some odd comments looking for this one.

[@nicklasdantes2471]

almost one for every lunch he made for Luke

[@SoniaBerrie]

yes. just yes.

[@jeffreygao3956]

If anything, her fault is being unable to move on and face the facts Luke Castellan is dead. The boy she loved is gone, corrupted by Palpati…oops Kronos!

[@gtdc4685]

Should of added +10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for the Tyson slander

[@abigailkondoudis5772]

why does Percy have more chemistry with Clarisse then Annabeth in this movie

[@emoratfromnewyork]

in the first movie they had so much sexual tension and it just disappeared

[@OptimusPhillip]

Because they turned Annabeth into a wet noodle.

[@user-ij3il1sj1k]

​@@emoratfromnewyork Please tell me you mean romantic tension?

[@User47928]

@@OptimusPhillip not just a wet noodle, a stale wet noodle.

[@georgeburton3782]

​@@user-ij3il1sj1k not rlly They made they 17

[@phantoist]

Kronos coming back on the second book is actually the singular worst thing ever done. Grover as the comedian? Sure, Clarisse being slim? Fine, Tyson completely out of character? Why not. But making the final boss appear on the second movie, when the 5th book was basically the fight on it's entirity, being the most grandiose event in all 5 books is absolutely outrageous, insane, and someone has to pay jail time for it. What would they have done if they had more movies? Like, it's literally unthinkable and that deserves at least 500 sins.

[@therealwilldalbey]

Maybe they would have brought in Gaea. Trust me, never think that someone can't make a dumber move than they already have. They can always get dumber.

[@phantoist]

@@therealwilldalbey Oh yeah, I have no doubts, the first movie was a bad movie, but it wasn't until I watched the second one that I realized it could get worse somehow

[@OptimusPhillip]

Judging by the final shot of the casket, the idea was "We may have defeated Kronos for now, but he may still rise again when the time of the prophecy comes."

[@berengustav7714]

Typhon but he's another undewhelming pile of CGI,not the eldritch horror that Percy couldn't linger his eyes on because he'd go crazy.

[@LilyGreenwell]

He doubled the amount of sins for that, as he should.

[@jordinagel1184]

“This is purely stylistic. Inaccurate does not mean bad.” Thankfully, in the case of this movie, it’s both. That simplifies things.

[@DovahkiinMaster172]

I don’t understand why every Hollywood movie thinks Kronos needs to be some large fiery satan looking monster. If I remember correctly, Kronos, while in Luke’s body, was described as having a soft voice of an older sounding man. I always pictured Kronos to look more like an old Father Time afflicted with constant paranoia.

[@jeffreygao3956]

I for one like the idea of him sounding like Ian Mcdiarmid.

[@astrorat7228]

Kronos is Mr. Rodgers, but evil

[@Sumoniggro]

Kronos is depicted as a fiery Satan like figure because he is the bad guy in Greek mythology who castrated and deposed his father as well as tried to eat all his children the future Olympians to prevent his own usurpation. Though to be fair to him during his rule life was perfect and in harmony.

[@DarthMolgy]

I just imagine him as DIO Brando (or his Heaven Ascension variant from JoJo Eyes of Heaven). The ironic thing about that is that Kronos being the Lord of Time was a major error in the books; the god/primordial being of Time in Greek mythology is *Chronos,* a completely unrelated deity to Kronos (who's mostly associated with Harvest because of his scythe).

[@janesdead6802]

I read all five books in the last week and Kronos was always described as having a voice like knives scraping over stone, or invoking the feeling of knives scraping down the skin of your back. I may be remembrring tbis last detail wrong but I think when he spoke his voice also projected as if 3 of him were speaking at once

[@SpringStarFangirl]

The reason people were mad about changing the age of the prophecy was probably because the story of PJO is the story of children aging and maturing. A 16-year-old turning 20 does not have the same impact as a 12-year-old turning 16.

[@ebdynamite3824]

Ik its the same couple of years, but 12 to 16 seems like a bigger gap than 16 to 20, and did the prophecy even get followed? How old was he when Peter Johnson defeated Kronos in this movie? Like 17? Idk if im right about this, correct me if im wrong, but isnt the movie prophecy wrong?

[@SpringStarFangirl]

@@ebdynamite3824 pretty sure they realized that they weren't gonna get another movie by the end... not that that stopped them from bringing back Thalia

[@whichcache2517]

Yeah, but the movie characters were already older than the book characters by the time the movie version of the Great Prophecy came out. If the prophecy was the exact same as in the books (in a scenario where the movies were faithful to the books in ever regard aside from the characters’ ages), it would mean that Percy wouldn’t be the one to hand Luke the cursed blade, because he didn’t “reach sixteen against all odds”. He would have to “reach twenty against all odds”.

[@WillieManga]

Why did they age the characters up in the first place? ... Ok, I know why; it's cause it's easier to find teen actors.

[@fablethewolf825]

Carsickness also makes more sense - Tyson is a son of Posiden. I know it's a thing in the books that at least children of the Big Three tend to developed ironic fears like Nico's fear of the dark, Thalia's fear of heights and Percy's fear of drowning, but why would a son of the sea god get seasick? Also, nice touch remembering that Riptide is a 'she'.

[@OptimusPhillip]

Legitimately, Magnus Chase was the last Riordanverse series I read, and I only got to Ship of the Dead a month or so ago, so I've gone most of my life not knowing Riptide even had preferred pronouns lol.

[@GunGameJump]

@@OptimusPhillip I liked the talking sword (i can't remember his name as i borrowed the books from the library) in Magnus Chase, just because of the rules with him and ALL of his sass.

[@the_serotonin]

@@GunGameJumpwasn’t his name jack?

[@GunGameJump]

@@the_serotonin thanks for the reminder

[@Lupinemancer87]

@@the_serotonin Jack is what Magnus called him, cuz he couldn't pronounce Summarbrandr.

[@edward6962]

One thing I love about the sea of monsters book is how Tantalus finally got to some food and instantly got sent back to his personal hell before being able to eat it

[@toxicdemon1315]

That honestly felt like the gods seeing and knowing what was about to go down and deciding to mess with him before sending him back to Tartarus

[@louisecram2616]

I think that the rule of the food and drinks is that he can't *eat* it, so when he was disappearing, he couldn't have ended up eating the hamburger so the food let itself be taken

[@yaddakmela5722]

I absolutely DIED when I heard the boom and the sins leapt from 105.5 to 1105.5. Thing is tho...I ABSOLUTELY agree. Considering I just finished reading the series again, I couldn't believe they actually had the gall to say this in the movie. I was like "May? May Castallen? Tragic yet loveable May?" There is no WAY they're talking about the same May.🤣🤣😂

[@aroacelunar]

AGREED, should have added one sin per lunch she made for Luke

[@yaddakmela5722]

@@aroacelunar TRUEEE!!

[@northstarpokeshipper2148]

@@aroacelunarSo at least 4,383. As stated, she made a lunch for him EVERY DAY for TWELVE YEARS. 365*12=4,380, plus the three factoring in leap years.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Give or take a few hundred.

[@jinxshadow5218]

Tyson being coded with a cognitive disability is actually very important imo. So is both Percy's and Annabeth's development regarding him. Both their misgivings about him turn out to be unfounded, they feel bad about judging him and he becomes a valued friend. I mean, how many children's books do you know where someone like Tyson is portrayed in such a positive light? Sure, he has less screentime in later books, but his impact is always felt through things like Percy's watch shield. All in all, Tyson is one of my favourite characters and just making him the dumb, clumsy one is such a waste!

[@OptimusPhillip]

As an autistic adult, it does legitimately amaze me looking back how positively Tyson was portrayed.

[@georgezp7787]

But Percy loved him from the beginning in the books. He LOVES HIS BROTHER.

[@georgezp7787]

Only Annabeth had misgivings about Tyson. Percy loves Tyson. What's wrong with Tyson having atleast one person in his corner?

[@jinxshadow5218]

@@georgezp7787 When Tyson was first claimed, Percy was embarrassed to have him as a brother. When Tyson was presumed dead after the explosion, Percy felt really bad about thinking that. That's why calling Tyson his baby brother at the end of the book was a big deal.

[@NovastarDoughnut]

In other worse book series you have disabled characters that are seen as monstrous or untrustworthy or unpleasant to be around. There is a sense of judgement there. With tyson your judgement is played against you, its not going "they're disabled and thus are icky" it's "they're actually really nice you just judged them harshly because of society (and by extent your) subconscious ableism"

[@Neutral_Tired]

if the Sea of Monsters wasn't part of Poseidon's domain, the entire Odyssey couldn't have happened.

[@alexandersean4708]

Pretty sure the same is true with Tyson walking through the barrier. Saying he can because he's a son of Poseidon is, by extention, saying other cyclopes aren't children of Poseidon. And yet, the Odyssey has to have happened, because they know who Charybdis and Scylla are!

[@g_hyperstar3609]

We do not accept May Castellan slander in this community. Deserved more sins

[@aroacelunar]

one sin per lunch made for Luke

[@gtdc4685]

@@aroacelunar 5114 sins

[@aroacelunar]

@gtdc4685 wait did you do the math?!

[@gtdc4685]

@@aroacelunar Yes

[@jeffreygao3956]

You sure that’s not an underestimate?

[@RaidBu13]

Them bringing back Kronos is like if the Harry Potter series brought back Tom Riddle in the Chambers of Secrets

[@LukaWukaWatcher]

That's funny bc they technically did do that, I mean bringing back Tom Riddle specifically was the entire plot of that book but I see what you're saying. It's like if they resurrected Voldemort in the second movie and then threw in a line about how the Chosen One could be Neville

[@panpan4757]

@@LukaWukaWatcher thats the joke

[@jeffreygao3956]

@@LukaWukaWatcher Great! How am I supposed to take Voldemort seriously now? My grandma hits harder than him!

[@Knabbinho]

sea of monsters is the book where percy and annabeth start realizing that they like each other a lot. on the other hand, the movie makes percy have more chemistry with clarisse and barely develops percy and annabeth.

[@gtdc4685]

I'm imagining movie 5's ending.

[@DankTheMan]

I know right,it feels like every scene is just screaming they want to make out.They would’ve probably thrown out Percabeth to make way for Clarisse x Percy,which is something I don’t wanna think about.

[@Knabbinho]

@@DankTheMan honestly? the movies were already screwed anyway, so fuck it, make a enemies to lovers with them since they are so into each other lmao

[@thekeeperofbalance]

another sin: everyone would’ve been immediately vaporised once kronos resurrected- like, mortals are vaporised in the presence of a titan’s true form, immediately- unlike gods where it’s upon sight- it’s part of the entire reason that everyone was so very in a rush at the end of the last olympian, because kronos was powerful enough to transform into his true form, which would have vaporised any mortal in his presence- and they basically deleted everyone’s personalities- (including how part of the book featured percy discovering his fatal flaw-) …these movies are _so_ bad.

[@nathanrodriguez8125]

I could be wrong, but I think Percy finds out his fatal flaw in The Titan’s Curse when Athena flat out tells Percy his fatal flaw is loyalty. I know the conversations about everyone having a fatal flaw is in Sea of Monsters after the encounter with the Siren’s Island (Annabeth tells Percy her fatal flaw is hubris, which Percy confuses with hummus), but I don’t think Percy knows exactly what it is until the third book. Again, I could be wrong.

[@felixlara2945]

Tyson was the Cyclops equivalent of a gifted 5 year old not an underdeveloped teenager

[@lahlybird895]

This Everyone forgets coffee hanging out with teenagers but kid is like 8

[@sciencool7227]

You know, there’s a difference between a good adaptation and a good movie. This movie however , is neither

[@gtdc4685]

That's what I think of the new show. A good series but a terrible adaptation.

[@monsieurleporc2397]

@@gtdc4685 Why do you think it's a bad adaptation ?

[@gtdc4685]

@@monsieurleporc2397 Has a lot of inaccuracies. Not as much as the movies, but a shocking amount. Still a good show.

[@jacobjake7623]

@@gtdc4685 Yeah but again inaccuracy doesn't mean bad. Live action translates to the screen differently than a book works. Adding to that, most changes have been made with author's approval, to enhance a, sometimes, outdated story. After what, 20 years, every author would change things about their story, and Rick got a chance.

[@gtdc4685]

@@jacobjake7623 Doesn't mean I have to like it

[@diamondinthesky4771]

As horrible as this is I am morbidly curious how the hell they would've handled adapting the third book. Though I am eternally grateful such an idea is purely a speculative alternate history discussion and we'll never actually see said hypothetical movie.

[@OptimusPhillip]

You are not alone

[@ArcofCarona]

They probably would’ve had Bianca already be dead

[@jeffreygao3956]

I was thinking Kampe would be the main antagonist and wearing an afro rather than the myth's snake hair for no reason, Atlas played be Christopher Lee for no reason, and Bianca into Mythomagic making her a weird hodgepodge of herself and Nico.

[@berengustav7714]

@@jeffreygao3956 "I've been looking forward to this,Jackson."

[@jeffreygao3956]

@@berengustav7714 Wait, that was actually a GOOD casting choice?!

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

5:56 Ah, everyone's favorite mocked line that for some reason is in quite a few films (and all those films suck) aS yOU kNOw. Nothing is more natural than a character basically saying "This dialogue is contrived because the characters in the film already know this so there's no reason for the characters to be talking about this."

[@rhiannonbamford8741]

A relatively minor thing I noticed, but there appeared to be a middle-aged human(?) chef at camp during the ending, when dinner is only ever mentioned as being either conjured up via enchanted plates or prepared by the harpies. Also the, y'know, adult human(?) when Quintus being an adult demigod is explicitly stated to be a rarity during the fourth book and mortals can't enter camp at all (except May Castellan, Rachel Dare and the pizza guy).

[@christophermitchell9739]

We never did find out about the pizza guy, but even the mortals who were Delphi candidates needed permission

[@michaelcarlton1484]

​@@christophermitchell9739The Pizza Guy just got REALLY lost. It's possible he could be a descendant though, which allowed him to enter the area. Plus Camp Half-Blood conceals itself as a strawberry farm if I remember correctly, so there is some precedent for normal humans being in the area to some degree.

[@christophermitchell9739]

@michaelcarlton1484 I just meant that we never got the story behind him, unlike the other two. With the expansion through side stories, we learned about a lot of hinted moments but that never happened with the pizza dude

[@rhiannonbamford8741]

@@christophermitchell9739 Apollo mentions in his series that he once tried to order a pizza to camp, so it's very likely that he's responsible.

[@GlitchedLink576]

A few things I wanna add: 1. Zeus turned Thalia into a tree with a zap of lightning not whatever that melting into a tree was 2. We see in the third book that the manticore can shoot spikes from his tail so they definitely nerfed him in this movie 3. I’m pretty sure that’s not what Thalia looks like 4. They never show any of the scenes of Percy’s visions of Thalia 5. Ik this is late but they never truly mention how Riptide is balanced for Percy because its a blade made “from the seas” (ik that’s not the right phrasing

[@RQStudios-1416]

6: Circe is a witch not a goddess

[@saaraah_t]

@@RQStudios-1416 im pretty sure she's both a witch and a goddess, granted a very minor one

[@RQStudios-1416]

@@saaraah_t oh ok

[@toxicdemon1315]

​@@RQStudios-1416 hey its ok, you were still half-right! That's better than nothing!

[@RQStudios-1416]

@@toxicdemon1315 Thanks

[@leog1377]

Actually, even though it probably isnt't canon to the series, in Percy Jackson's Greek Heroes there's a joke about Hermes wearing a UPS outfit while delievering magic items to Perseus.

[@ParkerM]

The fact this is almost the length of the movie really says a lot about how much was screwed up

[@humairahkazi2459]

24:49 DID PERCY JUST CALL ANNABETH "ANNIE"???!!! WHAT THE HELL? THAT WAS NEVER A THING!!!!! NOBODY EVER CALLS HER ANYTHING BUT HER FULL NAME AND OCCASIONALLY WISE GIRL! NOT EVEN PERCY! NOT EVEN HER DAD! OR HER COUSIN, MAGNUS! THIS IS COMPLETE BS!!!!!!!!!

[@jshrhrgahhuehtnmppl]

I just noticed this wtf

[@OptimusPhillip]

I think it was actually Grover, but your point still stands.

[@humairahkazi2459]

@OptimusPhillip no matter who it was, it's still an inaccuracy, and I would have expected you to include that in the video. Anyway, the people most likely to call her that nickname are, in order of most likely: her dad (it could be a childhood nickname or smth), Magnus (again, childhood nickname), and percy. Though honestly, percy calling annabeth "annie" is still a stretch (at least in the time frame of the books), but I do like to imagine that way later, after they've gotten married or at least graduated college, he does as just like a sweet name that only he can say. If anyone else said that, Annabeth would not hesitate to pull a knife on them.

[@girlwithoutafairy]

Dionysus did call her Annie in The Titan's Curse

[@humairahkazi2459]

@girlwithoutafairy yes, he called her Annie bell, but that was a wrong name situation, not a nickname. That's annabeths Peter Johnson

[@CinnaHuntress]

I don't know if you mentioned it, but the hero whose soul the "cursed blade" would reap was Luke. It's an important part of the book because Percy was dreading his own demise.

[@rayanlima1799]

Maybe he didn't want to spoil too much

[@forest433]

Love how in the movies, Annabeth uses EVERY SINGLE weapon ever except for the dagger, AKA her primary, mega-important weapon. Like they gave her a spear, a sword, a bow and arrow, and a crossbow, but NO dagger

[@jeffreygao3956]

She actually did briefly wield a dagger against Luke.

[@xacmashe3852]

Give her an ace and she would've used every physical damage weapon in fire emblem.

[@user-uy2lq3nk6i]

It’s like they looked at half of the characters Wikipedia pages and then read the blurbs and though “yep this is enough”

[@Scalesthelizardwizard]

45:39 Especially seeing how they ignored him thinking they knew better than a literal author also the fact they killed the character they named after him doesn't look good

[@lahlybird895]

They didn't even pronounce it correctly

[@Scalesthelizardwizard]

@@lahlybird895 I didn't even realize that at first

[@lahlybird895]

@@Scalesthelizardwizard honestly I didn't even notice that sound but until he brought attention to it and I had to go back and really listen to her yell closely

[@louismuir9485]

I'm pretty sure the line 42:00 "I'm pretty sure I smiled" was supposed to be conveying that Tyson was trying to be friendly and nice to the children who found him, but despite his attempt they were still afraid of him and ran away. It does get lost in the context but I think that's what they were going for

[@schnellethomas]

1) amazing job shredding the movies apart; 2) sin count: 2431 you can't look at kronos without burning up and literally everyone stared at him. 3) the sins for May castellan slander were well deserved

[@mefunnyhaha]

The demi-titan term is actually used in one of the trials of apollo books. It's when apollo is referring to Calypso while being attacked by in Indianapolis. However it is not an offical term cause it was used in a short joke

[@mefunnyhaha]

Also percy doesn't know Luke's last name until the fourth book

[@OptimusPhillip]

Forgot about both of those, whoops

[@mefunnyhaha]

It's all good lol. Also I loved the correct usage of Riptide's pronouns

[@gtdc4685]

@@OptimusPhillip The more sins these movies get. The better

[@SandwitchZebra]

41:38 I absolutely hate defending the movie in any capacity but I don’t think it meant to say he smiled out of joy seeing them run away. I think it meant to say that he smiled friendly, yet they still ran. As in “They ran even though I smiled”. Dialogue probably should’ve conveyed that better though.

[@OptimusPhillip]

That makes so much more sense.

[@maritofuentes4690]

Man, with a properly written Tyson That line would hurt

[@michaelcarlton1484]

To be honest, when this movie came out YEARS after the first one, I only watched it because I was curious as to how bad it would change things. I was ripping it to shreds vocally in the movie theater the whole time. There are so many changes and a billion plotholes.

[@jeffreygao3956]

This is what happens when you pander to an audience that wrote your movie off as a loser cause and alienate whatever audience you have left. Continuing from Lightning Thief in an organic fashion and maybe only loosely adapting Sea of Monsters would’ve been far better. At least the Lightning Thief film could work as a reasonable standalone movie due to it being that far from the source.

[@eranshachar9954]

Man can you imagine how hard they would have FU Nico and Bianca Di Angelo if they continued? Nico and Tyson are among the characters I love the most in these 5 books, so with Tyson they did an horrible job and thank god they didn't have time to mess up Nico. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the final battle wasn't in New York. And when it comes to Percy and Rachel I think they would have made it a thing and not just a possibility.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Merge Bianca and Nico into someone with Bianca’s name and Nico’s Mythomagic habits and who dresses like she’s from Pokémon Heroes?

[@eranshachar9954]

@@jeffreygao3956 Yes you are most likely right so good thing they didn't do it.

[@Ockhamsbarber2392]

We should all appreciate the great videos that Optimus Phillip pumps inside us

[@OptimusPhillip]

Phrasing!

[@theanyktos]

Honestly, the most fascinating thing about this movie is that it exists at all. After the steaming pile of Minotaur dung that was The Lightning Thief, it genuinely _baffles_ me that anyone thought making another one of these would be a good idea.

[@OptimusPhillip]

For as much as people didn't care for the first movie, it did _very_ well at the box office, grossing 30 million in its opening weekend, and 200 million worldwide.

[@thebravegallade731]

TLT movie isn't *that bad* if you don't view it as an adaptation. its not *good* but it isn't terrible. SOM is just stupid.

[@dynamight98]

Found your channel and part 1 today. Blew my mind this is out same day and i didnt have to wait. Thanks buddy these are hilarious

[@OptimusPhillip]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@getcrafty3841]

I saw the video thumbnail and thought oh that could be fun to watch and then I saw the video was an hour long and I realized that the whole movie is basically an inaccuracy

[@ThePercyJacksonDude]

I love how he added back sins for things that actually happened in the books. And it wasn’t even that many things.

[@OptimusPhillip]

I like to give credit where it's due. And even a bad adaptation deserves some credit for those little touches.

[@014Darkness]

I love how this channel was just shitposts and memes, turned into transformers toys reviews and suddenly you create two masterpieces about Percy Jackson out of nowhere, keep up the good work dude! You're insane

[@OptimusPhillip]

Toy reviews were always the main thing I wanted to make, but I would often get random ideas that I'd just dump on this channel, and I guess that kind of took over for a while. But now I'm getting the toy reviews back on track, while still trying new things every now and then.

[@vengefuljester2090]

I was gonna say about adding sins for the mispronouncation of Thalia. But then you did the lightning round at the end. Well done sir

[@therealwilldalbey]

While she decided to go alone in the end, I thought I remember Clarisse inviting two campers, yet both turned her down.

[@meenalshah6611]

I think she may have, but Percy couldn't have gone either way due to the whole no flight thing And also because the whole point was that it was her quest so all four others decided not to go

[@therealwilldalbey]

@@meenalshah6611 Not on the plane, on the quest. She finished the quest on her own, but I'm talking about when they first ran into her in the woods.

[@meenalshah6611]

Ah, okay, I dont remember that 😅

[@g_hyperstar3609]

Probably because they all hate her

[@LukaWukaWatcher]

Her prophecy was that she would get the fleece but fly home alone so it was assumed that meant if others went with her they would die so I think that's why she didn't take anyone/no one would go with her

[@BingQilin]

I like how the climbing wall looks like something out of Wipeout

[@katharineball585]

That's what I was thinking lol

[@User47928]

10 sins for making us sit through Tyson being absurdly cringy.

[@FinnyTheFoxX]

everytime thson spoke in this movie i screamed “WRONG WRONG WRONG” because he never talked like that his sentences were shorter like “fish horsies!” but in the movie the sentences were full

[@RippedDiscs]

what bothers me the most when directors dont follow the lore or books is we get hyped then the movie turns out to be crap but we watch it to have fun

[@tomhur1]

Holy cow! Someone who loves both Percy Jackson AND Transformers?! And made a great video tearing the inaccurate movie apart? You my friend just earned a subscriber. :D

[@TurgoLBX2510]

I love the disclaimer at the start that says “Different doesn’t mean bad.” When virtually every single change they made was awful.

[@meenalshah6611]

Thank you so much for making this. This was absolutely fantastic, and it warmed my heart for someone to do it so meticulously and passionately. Absolutely loved every single thing about it.

[@esc2909]

Also, they did not talk about the connection between Grover and Percy and how it affects both of them. Oh wait, THEY ALREADY BUTCHERED GROVER'S ENTIRE PERSONALITY.

[@felwalkr_94]

They butchered pretty much ALL the characters, what do you mean?😂

[@mdm_topplelock]

Actually, Hermes being associated with UPS was a joke in Perseus’ story in the Greek Heroes side book. I guess that’s not canon to the Percy Jackson lore but the precedence is there

[@OptimusPhillip]

Keep forgetting to check the supplementary books before sinning these movies 💀

[@bigplopper]

​@@OptimusPhillipits all good man, hell i forgot riptide was a lady because i was never too big a fan of magnus chase

[@DarthMolgy]

The weird thing about that book is that it sometimes contradicts details from the actual series - most notably the story of Daedalus' murder of his own nephew being presented as the reason he moved to Crete to begin with, when in the series it was stated to have happened after Icarus' death.

[@lahlybird895]

​@@DarthMolgynot to mention Poseidon's gift to Athens

[@watermelonwarrior239]

Okay, aside from the well deserved ridiculously high sin counter and your god level commentary, the song you sang at the end? Shit. Shit, I'm subscribing

[@Mr_BenBrawlStars]

13:47 also in the books its mentioned the oracles's eyes turn green, not blue

[@insouciantFox]

36:15 Actually, Houdini, son of Hermes, escaped Tartarus in the books. But the point stands.

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Hablas de harry houdini?

[@Sorfallo]

It says he "could have" but never specifies he actually did. And, regardless, Houdini would not have ventured to the very center to do so.

[@insouciantFox]

@@Sorfallo "could have", not "could"? Really? Hmmmm.

[@DarthMolgy]

When is that mentioned?

[@insouciantFox]

@@DarthMolgy Book 1, when they are discussing leople who have returned from the underworld.

[@OptimusPhillip]

Despite disputing it two weeks ago now, this video still has a copyright claim on it and can't be monetized. So if you want to help me out in the meantime, maybe consider buying a channel membership? Update: the claim has expired. The video is monetized again

[@SandwitchZebra]

Whoever is doing it must be insane to want to lay claim to this hole of a movie

[@151monka]

Insane how absolutely BS the youtube copyright system is. It manages to be even worse than the copyright laws themselves...

[@mikeor-]

No sins in the Disney+ Show (except for the Race change, but I made my peace with that). I also heard that Rick Riordan will be adding some scenes that weren't in the book, and since he himself is doing that, perhaps the fans will see that it's coming from the man who created it, not as a cynical decision.

[@BenSinclair04]

Can you do this with the new Percy Jackson series, even though Rick is involved there are quite a few inaccuracies, that there are shouldn't be there.

[@UltimateDespairado]

I don’t know why, but I love the quickfire round with pronouncing Thalia’s name wrong. I’ve been waiting for that moment.

[@idongesitusen5764]

Ethan Nakamura’s inclusion here irritates me- his fate in the final books was a meaningful moment in the Riordan verse, as it shows that the Olympians’ disrespect for the lesser known or marginalized deities affects the demigods, Also, not a “seaweed brain” uttered.

[@HannaLuna-dd7jd]

I and half my collage are all fans of the Percy Jackson series so when our school put continuous reruns of the two movies we all just collectively hate watched both pointing out every single mistake and more

[@daltonyugioh9194]

The extra 1000 piont for Luke mom comment was justified

[@muffindude472]

I never understood the a child of the eldest dogs joke until I actually got to that point in the book today.

[@BookBat]

Minor nitpick, Chronos being resurrected should have earned the movie infinite sins, that was pure incompetence, especially considering they were hoping to make more movies

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Dijeron que regresaría pero que bueno que no

[@Lambdefeatuber]

It's pronounced "Kronos", not "Chronos" btw

[@BookBat]

@@Lambdefeatuber in my defense, there are two different Gods with the same name, just with a different letter at the start of their names. Although I have heard some speculation that they're the same being just with a bit of regional differences to the name.

[@DarthMolgy]

​​@@BookBatalso in the series the two are basically merged into one, with Kronos also being the Lord of Time

[@riftryn]

Something interesting I noticed: so you know how NO ONE wears the orange chb shirts in this movie or the previous one? Well there’s one scene where everyone is close to that. When they’re all around Thalia’s tree at the start, you can see everyone wearing blue. THE OPPOSITE OF ORANGE ON THE LIGHT SPECTRUM!! That’s the closest this movie chose to get to a camp uniform of sorts was having everyone in blue around the tree. Which is also an discontinuity because earlier in the games, you can see everyone wearing a rainbow of bright colors. And it’s the same day because Annabeth is wearing the same as outfit.

[@gtdc4685]

50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 sins

[@davidvitrano0324]

I’ve always read “Talia.” I had no idea Riordan intended us to read it different from how it’s normally pronounced

[@gtdc4685]

dyslexia

[@bio9leader60]

46:00 That PC joke is SIGNIFICANTLY funnier than the cyclops one because it's about a bunch of racists.

[@OptimusPhillip]

Hadn't thought of it that way, but you have a point. Unfortunately, the joke had already worn out its welcome by then, imo.

[@staticforce5367]

Funny how they crammed like all the books except for the first into a single freaking movie

[@jeffreygao3956]

And missed out on serious bank!

[@michaelfraser1073]

This movie actively pissed me off because of how it ruined the cursed blade. What a way to take a cool twist and fascinating character moment and just make it all about Percy.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Technically the idea that Anaklusmos was the cursed blade was a good guess. It was owned by Heracles before Percy.

[@mace1730]

I'm pretty sure that the Oracle had green smoke and eyes so he should have added that.

[@digifreak90]

In defense of how they pronounce Thalia's name in the movie (and the only thing I'll really ever defend about the movie), I've known a Thalia who pronounced it that way.

[@OptimusPhillip]

Honestly, I had to do some serious digging to find the "correct" pronunciation of Thalia. If you were to watch my Lightning Thief sins video, you'll hear me pronounce it "Thay-lia".

[@bigplopper]

​@@OptimusPhillipi also thought it was tah-lia

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

@@OptimusPhillip We can also consider they could be using a more greek pronunciation of her name. Thalia with TH is correct in english, but her name is meant to have greek roots.

[@pepsiboorowe]

I absolutely love the fact that you wrote "Dam" when talking about Agrius and Oreius 🤣

[@ArmadilloTheGod]

If I gained 1 dollar, every time a mistake happened, I'd be rich. 💀💀

[@jeffreygao3956]

Richer than the King of Saudi Arabia!

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

I feel like with both these movies they didn't know whether or not it was going to be the end of the series, evidenced by the first one not even mentioning Cronos and having Luke be defeated, and this one keeping the book's cliffhanger ending but showing that Percy Jackson can defeat Cronus all by himself but they don't make him destroy the sarcophagus, this is purely speculation (so don't quote me on this) but it's a feeling I can't ignore.

[@calidahill3374]

We need more of this adaptation stuff from this channel! Very similar to movie sins but a good difference.

[@theodorebarton4256]

14:16 even the original myths contradict this. The movie has no excuse for getting this wrong

[@typo1345]

Despite how much I hate this film, I love the wine-to-water scene and "now THATS a god" may be the only good scene

[@OptimusPhillip]

Stanley Tucci is pretty funny in this one.

[@typo1345]

@@OptimusPhillip he was well-cast as Mr. D, I'll give em that. I know Jason Mantzoukas is gonna kill it too

[@felwalkr_94]

⁠@@typo1345considering his first line in the show is “PETER JOHNSON IS HERE!”, I agree with you.😂

[@cacklebabygg6156]

Get off my roof

[@jrlombardi5251]

41:40 I think he meant that he was just being nice, that the only thing he did to those kids was smile at them (before they screamed), not that he smiled bc of the kids being afraid of him.

[@Isabella-fd1dd]

Would you review the show series, too? It would be fun to pinpoint what was missing and cool details that were added.

[@gtdc4685]

I'll do it

[@captainpep3]

The show is pretty awful so far imo, I don’t really notice many “cool details” that were added

[@gtdc4685]

@@captainpep3 Only cool details that were removed

[@captainpep3]

@@gtdc4685 yeah, I’m reading the book again, and I understand that they have to get rid of some things due to time constraints, but I feel like after reading only just after half of the book, Percy, Annabeth, and Grover don’t feel ANYTHING like their book counterparts, especially annabeth. And yeah, a lot of cool details were removed, so many things skipped over and rushed, and they added new scenes in the movie that they could’ve just replaced with scenes that were actually in the book

[@gtdc4685]

@@captainpep3 Here aboutbout time constraints. It's a show, not a movie. They can have more time if they need it. Just make more episodes.

[@HakonArnin]

36:20 I mean Percy and Annabeth also went through Tartarus. It’s the main story point of the house of Hades

[@OptimusPhillip]

Yes, but that was after Nico di Angelo's first trip into Tartarus. My point with that was more to establish a timeline, not to give an exhaustive list.

[@babytrons_little_cousin]

ooh an hour long video about a niche topic my favorite

[@OptimusPhillip]

That's what KZbin is all about!

[@Ann_Mellow09]

YES!!!!!! NOW PLEASE MAKE ONE FOR THE SERIES and I love how you jumped from 100 sins to a 1000 lol

[@evieisleng]

clarisse and Percy had more chemistry then Percy and Annabeth in this movie

[@UltimateDespairado]

That’s a bad thing, since you are not supposed to ship these two together in the books.

[@kalide1704]

here's hoping Disney+'s Percy Jackson series gets this right in Season 2! they did a LOT of things from the book in the first season. (that's what happens when you got Rick Riordan, himself, at the helm!)

[@charliewegner]

as much as i hate these movies, the bull does look pretty great. i mean, it’s not book accurate, but whoever animated it and everything did great.

[@reyisdumb.]

i am INFINITELY pissed about how much they undermined clarisse's character in this movie. her arc was so good in the books and it just. didn't happen in the movie. the stuff we learn about her relationship with her dad in the SOM book is really important to her character and we just don't get it in the movie. praying the second season of the show does her justice.

[@Zurpozz]

lets just HOPE that all of the innacuracies are fixed in the new percy jackson series thats coming out soon

[@John_the_Paul]

It was certainly better

[@felwalkr_94]

@@John_the_Paulit had the expressed support of Riordan, of course it was better!

[@dox5520]

Actually I believe the term "Demi-Titan" was used to describe Calypso once in the books. Or maybe I'm just losing my grasp on reality as per usual.

[@TrueBladeSoul]

Honestly I’ve seen the term used for Zoe before

[@willhornsby206]

Zoe, Calypso and Zoe's sisters are Demi-titans. And if i remember correctly are the only ones referred to as such.

[@lilil9752]

This movie is like, they knew they weren’t going to get another deal (hence why the Cronos battle happened early) but also they thought they would gather fans to be upset when they didn’t (bringing Thalia as the sequel hook) and people were just happy it was over

[@unit4ds]

52:57 I thought Tyson tried to get him to put his weapon down after poly said he was a disgrace?

[@twitchynosesam]

Im hesitant to agree with the point that the grey sisters taxi only serves greater new york, as in The Sun and The Star, Kayla uses it to go to Toronto. However that could be explained away as they just delivering her to an airport or another mortal means of travel

[@OptimusPhillip]

Annabeth explicitly says in The Sea of Monsters that they currently only serve Greater New York. Maybe they expanded their range since then, but for the purposes of an SoM adaptation, they should be limited.

[@Okitas_beloved]

the fact that me and my friends in 3rd grade somehow managed to make a more accurate reenactment of Percy Jackson than both of the movies is kinda sad

[@aquataco-4Life]

The second I saw the title, i knew this was going to be a big vid

[@Selevy1127]

This whole movie frustrates me because of how Grover is in it when really he’s in the sea of monsters.

[@Justarandomperson-vx4qb]

THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING HOW THEY MISPRONOUNCE THALIA'S NAME. It always drove me insane and for a long time I thought *I* was the one pronouncing it wrong. It's not enough that they change the entire plot of the movie and mess it up in every way possible, they had to LITERALLY *CHANGE. A. CHARACTER'S. NAME.*

[@daniellecandy4426]

Didn’t finish the video yet but you also forgot to add a sin for the way Tyson talks. He stutters a lot and not like in the movie, where he speaks full sentences.

[@georgezp7787]

7:05 also, Percy loves Tyson. He's in noway against him at any point in the story.

[@kreati_]

38:35 The points you made about Tyson being intellectually disabled are actually a large part of what made me like and relate to him. And he's shown to be a capable fighter/ally and good friend, which is not often portrayed in these types of characters.

[@Madmankey13]

Watching this movie before reading the book single-handedly fucked up the way I pronounced "Thalia" for the better part of a decade. Thanks, guys!

[@Lambdefeatuber]

If the sea of monsters wasn't in Poseidon's domain then the Odyssey would've never happened

[@Alphapkmn]

17:25 Me, at Disney: please include that, please include that, PLEASE!

[@jedi_cat_l4976]

I’m surprised the Manticore nearly killing Annabeth wasn’t sinned. In the third book, Dr. Thorn stings Percy, which weakens him, but Thorn straight up says it won’t kill him.