Every Pokémon vs Every Stand in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure...

[@mavericknova8540]

If Heavy Weather managed to affect EVERY pokemon it would transform the fight from "every stand vs every pokemon" to "every stand vs 1000+ Magcargos"

[@uberrex8073]

Magcargo is hotter than the sun 😨

[@mavericknova8540]

@@uberrex8073 and there are 2 stands that can erase anything they touch

[@0_eclipsis_049]

@@mavericknova8540destiny bond 💀(if you don’t know if you kill pokemon that destiny bonded with you you also die

[@0_eclipsis_049]

Psyducks ability cloud nine disables heavy weathers ability

[@mavericknova8540]

@@0_eclipsis_049 destiny bond only works until the pokemon uses another move, plus magcargo doesn't learn destiny bond And to answer your other comment, the problem can be solved by simply taking out the Cloud 9 mons first

[@RandomLetterE]

Ditto: So it's the same type of stand as me.

[@thetafritz9868]

Mew can as well

[@thetafritz9868]

Can smeargle also transform?

[@diomsgaming]

​@@thetafritz9868nope lol + mew can only transform tl every pokemon

[@thetafritz9868]

@@diomsgaming oh okay lol

[@concernedviewer2887]

so its the same type of stand as star platinum

[@threes_leaves]

Weather Report: I have complete control over the weather and- Rayquaza: No Heavy Weather: But- Mega Rayquaza: No

[@throwawayemail8450]

*DRAGON DANCES*

[@DrTako-wk7zj]

Golduck could even stop Weather Report with cloud nine

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

Some pile of snow with the move hail:

[@kotykoty7848]

ya know that ripping out ozon layer and creating actualy deadly rainbows is something more than just control over weather

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@kotykoty7848 alternatively rayquaza just kills it and no, that directly affects the weather. Rayquaza has been shown to be able to negate rainstorms so strong that fire moves are impossible to use under them and blazing sunlight so powerful it causes water to instantly evaporate.

[@antiwolfer8691]

"Pokemon win, theres no stopping them" bohemian rhapsody:

[@j-Gappy-h]

No + the user can’t control what’s being summoned + gets blitzed + Piplup sweep

[@marcoasturias8520]

Smeargle and Grafaia to the rescue!

[@FireworkIncense]

@@marcoasturias8520​​⁠Well if we count the novel(s) Jorge Joestar, Disco Wednesdayyyy, and Rohan on his acid trip! 1: Let's not include the stand "The Beyond" as it is the writer himself just choosing DIO as a whim that write him as "the main character" of a story called "life". This guy scale is a bit too much (1-A from what I've seen) Rohan stuff has some wacky high end shit. Golden melody (Infinite Spin but in the form of sound basically) that disintegrates, purifies and obliterates the soul of those who hear it. Spaghetti Man (10-D monster that sends out literal black holes and worm holes into lower dimensions to "fish" for lower d entities, these black holes can bend space to take on different appearances and can exist at any point in space or time, which they can also abuse to exist at multiple points at the same time, kinda like Celebi). Censored Equation might also be nifty. And that's not touching any of the "Ultimate" Stands.

[@j-Gappy-h]

@@ogsculee Wtf are you even yapping about? 😭

[@Someoneeithaname]

Every Pokémon vs every stand and Pokémon

[@thedarkesper5290]

An argument can be made that Azelf singlehandedly defeats the entirety of the JoJo side. It has control over willpower itself and is able to manipulate it in others, which would include dampening it as well as just straight up mind controlling people. Stands are the embodiment of 'fighting spirit', or 'willpower'. If you remove that or control it, you would by proxy control the Stand or could turn it off entirely.

[@astalemeatmachine4330]

Can’t golden experience just make Azelf mind control itself via life form? Wait would nothing happen or the life form control Azelf?

[@thedarkesper5290]

@@astalemeatmachine4330 The problem is that GER and Golden Experience is still a Stand. It doesn't matter that it can screw with causality and say "No" or do damage reflection if Azelf can just "pull the plug" on Stands as a whole, so to speak. Beyond that, the three lake guardians combined possibly counter GER's ability pretty handily anyway. If GER does nothing when Made in Heaven fast forwards the universe or when Heaven Ascension DIO remakes the universe, but the lake trio can counter Dialga or Palkia remaking the universe, you can reasonably assume that they can probably shut down GER's or even HA DIO's space/time fuckery the same way. And then, you know, just detonate their heads with a psychic attack. Or mind control them. Or turn them into complete amnesiacs. Whatever works after that point.

[@thedarkesper5290]

Side Note: Golden Experience also only reflects direct damage. Azelf mind controlling a frog isn't an example of that, so nothing would happen anyway.

[@Someone-be3yz]

Bro who told you Stands are ‘WiLlPoWeR’??? 💀💀💀💀

[@whipple1796]

@@Someone-be3yzsays in the manga and anime

[@ffhorus6571]

Honestly the battle would come down to giorno and arceus just chillin without being able to do anything against eachother

[@Delta_Ren5]

Arceus is like twoh so ger would be useless against it

[@pixilmon]

Probably

[@ecstaticprime]

No GER is insurmountable and EoH nerfed it so the game could have plot

[@ecstaticprime]

What GER does is make an attack just not happen so if you were going to attack GER you just weren't cuz you can not and will not.

[@ecstaticprime]

See how TWOH wouldn't work on it cuz TWOH just wouldn't attack it.

[@alexpineda5960]

11:03 Actually stomping on it would be the worst idea possible since that Pokemon in particular, Yveltal, literally absorbs the life of all living things when it dies.

[@AshenDust_]

I’d say it’s the best possible way to deal with that Pokémon in particular. You can’t kill it, so you have to incapacitate it somehow without killing it, turning it into a snail is the perfect counter.

[@Lo-Sir]

Rohan writes "Yveltal Cannot Do Anything"

[@cyrus8886]

@@Lo-Sir Good luck getting to him lol Also that's not how Rohan's stand works

[@SylvieMoon0]

@@cyrus8886 he quite literally did something similar to either koichi or okuyasu. don't remember which, but he can do that. or just make them only attack pokemon.

[@Zed-gj8vq]

@Talen Spear "cannot attack rohan kishibe" is quite different to "cannot do anything" perhaps something such as "cannot harm stands" would be more realistic.

[@owlwatcher4408]

White snake and death 13 is pretty deadly combo

[@AshenDust_]

Garganacl tho

[@deewompost2470]

@@AshenDust_ It's so powerful it won the first US Regionals

[@king_krab13]

Magcargo (hotter than the sun)

[@nicograsso3907]

several pokemon are immune to sleep and darkria is just better death 13

[@deewompost2470]

@@nicograsso3907 And the Pokemon with worry seed can get the rest of the Pokemon immunity to sleep as well

[@armoredman10]

Almost every stand when they see a Pokémon with mold breaker:

[@meme_market5949]

Tinkaton solos

[@thetafritz9868]

@@meme_market5949 Tinkaton is kinda trash, Haxorus all the way

[@Thatonespinuser]

​@@meme_market5949 za hando that gets you! *Prooceeds to delete him out of existence itself*

[@flamestorm1468]

Dio is the type of guy that would catch Dialga and nickname him Diolga, change my mind

[@flamestorm1468]

Then there's Palkia, which is both Za hando and C-moon's child

[@Damquep]

you're right this is the correct opinion to have

[@mrbob2311]

The time has come. The video I've been waiting for. Jojo... vs pokemon....

[@Mah-Boi]

Jojo vs Pokemon vs Lions?

[@mrbob2311]

@@Mah-Boi well we know the lions are losing

[@MisakiAmetaniQuit]

Ikr

[@AshenDust_]

One Pokémon I can see being surprisingly powerful is Gholdengo. It’s very strong, but its ability, Good as Gold, makes it immune to all moves that aren’t direct attacks. Heaven’s Door? Green Day? Heavy Weather? *Golden Experience Requiem* ? All do nothing. That being said, things that affect its surroundings rather than it directly still work, so things like C-Moon, The World and King Crimson would still work. Another one is Gardevoir. Not only does it have strong psychic powers and can create black holes, it has the ability Trace, letting it steal the ability of the closest enemy when it enters the battle. It’s highly luck dependant, but if it’s closest to a strong stand it could deal some serious damage.

[@betabrobox5021]

Grass type Pokemon are all universally immune to powder/spore techniques thus green day can't actually touch them and assuming we aren't running items on Pokemon, even then M-Rayquaza can exist by itself with it's ability just flat out disabling Weather Report/Heavy Weather

[@ferdous.111]

@@betabrobox5021 magicians red: Hold my fire

[@betabrobox5021]

@@ferdous.111 I mean in the same vain and irrationality of that statement you said. All 26 Flash Fire Pokemon Be Like "This little chicken tickles!"

[@ferdous.111]

@@betabrobox5021 survivor: hold my anger

[@betabrobox5021]

@@ferdous.111 and to retort against this statement! Pokemon are canonically driven to the thrill of battle and lust for greater strength. A stand which only serves to inflict a lesser effect of what their biological instincts dictate they should do wouldn't really do much of anything. You are taking a field of battle driven lunatics and making them more efficient with no downside. Edit: also don't the stands themselves suffer more drawbacks than positives from survivor being on the battlefield?

[@astroblaze4896]

I mean like, Yveltal just absolutely steals the life out of everything on sight so I guess it could win by itself.

[@astroblaze4896]

By itself I mean friendly fire

[@concernedviewer2887]

that could be countered by TWOH tho.

[@guyfromusaa9164]

And if we go by canon stands then we have notorious B.I.G

[@ilovepotatowedges]

and if it (somehow) dies it nukes everything around it and sucks the life out of them

[@astroblaze4896]

@@concernedviewer2887 Right, but I thought it wasn't canon

[@KFCLoversWOOOOOO]

Imagine if heavy weather turned every Pokémon into a magcargo instead of a snail

[@gavinbrown216]

Or goodra

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Yeah, then the stands are triple fucked

[@slappybio1686]

@@gavinbrown216 all the stands gets hugged to death

[@itzwizory9556]

I wonder how the Stands would work against Shedinja's Wonder Guard. Would they even do anything since they don't technically have "type" moves?

[@mynameisntjoe3024]

some if not almost all of them probably count as ghosts

[@wooshmeifugay8719]

Magician's red

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

Magicians red, empress, silver chariot.

[@itzwizory9556]

@@SnailSnail-lo4pm not like that. You see, there is this Dark Type move called Bite, but that doesn't mean that biting a pokemon automatically inflicts dark type damage. It has to be that specific move. Yes, literal fire is different than simply biting, but for all we know, the only way for pokemon to be affected is if specifically pokemon moves are used against them

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

@itzwizory9556 well that's fucking ridiculous because the anime shows these moves as just being regular attacks. If it's flame thrower, they throw flame, if it's gyro ball, it's a steel ball, any steel move in general coats the limb in steel, flying can just be assumed to be finesse.

[@RaidShadowLegends-e4e]

Wouldn't the photograph stand be an mvp? He can just take a picture of the pokemon and then rip the picture to kill the pokemon easily and effectively

[@Jebbamf]

Yes atom heart father basically needs to get a high angle shot of the Pokémon then rip it up

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@Jebbamftoo bad it isn’t fast enough to do that. But at least there’s more win cons!

[@mr.creeper6836]

Heavy weather: Rainbows! Rayquaza: No, I don't think you will.

[@deewompost2470]

I would have loved to see the conversation you two had! It would be so cool to see how each overpowered stand would be beat one by one

[@levanteluxegifting8430]

i wonder what they said the pokemon counter to love train will be

[@Thelamestgamer01]

@@levanteluxegifting8430 it would be victini cause it can’t lose

[@Abigcoconuttree]

@@levanteluxegifting8430 Dialga to revert time

[@llamahguy7229]

Nothing can counter golden experience requiem by the definition of golden experience requiem. GER verse victini is paradoxical as victini must win, but also can't at the same time as winning would be harming GER

[@Thelamestgamer01]

@@llamahguy7229 it would just be a stalemate then

[@Eclipsico]

After watching this I'm imagining The World Over Heaven and Arceus just casually having an interdimensional battle, wiping like 75-80% of all other stands/pokemon, and being chill about it.

[@osamaqidwai7800]

TWOH is limited to having to punch something to overwrite it, arceus is not, so arceus can just take the W. however, if dio anticipates such a thing (unlikely) he may be able to overwrite himself to make himself immune?

[@narkle9723]

Ditto copies TWOH, there's now a TWOH and arceus fighting dio...

[@yago7026]

@@narkle9723 but jotaro just goes "So its the same type of stand as star platinum" now a slightly stronger twoh joins the fight so 2 twoh against arceus (and also smarter) so could see that happening

[@narkle9723]

@@yago7026 mew learns transform btw... we now have an absolute clusterfuck on our hands

[@paper766]

@@narkle9723 WRONG! it becomes ditto with a choice scarf and outspeeds TWOH!!

[@thearrivalcyberseignister8898]

Azelf would be in a eternal duel with ger since both powers is to anulate the actions of the other person, its like a master duel drytron mirror match, Also pokemon with mind controling capabilities like ninetales or malamar could stop weather report since its power works by propaganda but they can just mind control the pokemons to not turn themselves into snails

[@phiexi]

well if we look at Eyes of Heaven, nulling GER once would cause it to be gone forever, since it doesn't exist anymore, and even without EoH this logic should apply to canon JJBA, plus willpower nullification technically isn't an attack and more of a status thing.

[@robertparham2727]

Possible counter against Weather Report: Pokemon with the ability Cloud Nine, which will always negate the effects of weather

[@mr.insensible1002]

that relies on the pokemon getting that ability and they will probably just get demolished by MIH within a second if they get that ability

[@doflamingoisinnocent]

@@mr.insensible1002 Dialga negs then rayquaza activates delta stream

[@mr.insensible1002]

@@doflamingoisinnocent It is literally said that Dialga's heartbeat is tied to time so when pucci accelerates time Dialga has an heartattack

[@mr.insensible1002]

@@doflamingoisinnocent Rayquaza still dies from pet shop even still

[@doflamingoisinnocent]

@@mr.insensible1002 petshop gets deleted by stealth rocks, even still infinite speed scaling exists for rayquaza

[@Yahahuuythefunniman]

I mean cream can go into an entire different dimension, same for sticky fingers, those pokemon that basically eliminate a whole universe wont be able to get in those universes, and sticky fingers can just get all the stands that cant get out themselves in a zipper, and cream just goes ham with no consequences

[@cyrus8886]

They probably could go there Since Palkia is literally master over all of space and dimensions Dialga and Giratina also have similar abilities And of course Arceus All of them can go the distortion world Which is stated to have no concept of space and time

[@pixilmon]

Now THIS is a debate. Pokémon like Arceus and those omnipotent may be able to beat mih and others, but when it comes to GER and infinity it may be tough to tell as we have not seen arceus’s true power. This is a tough one but I think jojo stands got it if it’s one of every Pokémon. Keyword one. Arceus is an avatar, but then again after watching the video fully now I remember that Pokémon will win. I focused on Arceus too much lmao

[@mynameisntjoe3024]

Arceus is stronger than time and space Tusk act 4 can barely reach infinity and its just almost nothing when it comes to the whole concept of space Arceus beats tusk act 4 Also Dialga is literal time, it can do what GER does but better and more and Arceus already scales higher than it

[@JJSquirtle]

Ye honestly in lore, the only pokemon that scale to arceus are mew (the first pokemon and given the power to learn all moves which in theory means arceus's moves too), mewtwo (literally better mew with a narrower movepool), and extradimensional pokemon like necrozma may not be its creations and therefore necrozma which represents all light and all darkness is theoretically near-equal in power

[@Eclipsico]

And then there's TWOH. If TWOH lands one punch on Arceus, might be game over

[@robloxplays4322]

@@JJSquirtle hoopa unbound can just bring in more arceus avatars from other dimensions

[@fractality9676]

@@Eclipsico twoh negs the whole poke verse but its not canon so

[@sshheessee4468]

every pokemon wins without a doubt, kinda. Victini's pokedex entry talks about how any trainer who possesses it will win any battle, but the lack of trainers really destroy that argument.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Well, the point is that it’s meant to literally win no matter what. Still won’t matter much either way though

[@thealchemistking4063]

The funny thing about Green Day is that against certain specific Pokemon… it would only make them stronger. *This is due to the existence of the passive ability: “Sap Sipper”* which makes any grass type ability HEAL the target pokemon. They would become literally immortal.

[@thetafritz9868]

mold however is a fungi and not a plant but in the world of pokemon they're both grass types

[@thealchemistking4063]

@@thetafritz9868 Indeed, the ability Cotton *Spore* is a grass type move and as we all know, spores are fungal.

[@Ogerponyo]

….sap sipper increases attack not heal

[@thealchemistking4063]

@@Ogerponyo ok fair enough. *but its still invulnerability*

[@NightlonVGC]

Idk why ppl think GER is always invincible. Indirect attacks work since pucci’s universe reset didn’t trigger it. Arceus can do the exact same thing without needing to follow the rules of MiH and end giorno before he gets the requiem arrow. Better yet, don’t even bother arceus. Just get dialga/celebi to send rayquaza back in time and intercept the meteor that led to the arrows creation (it eats meteors for breakfast).

[@duylecong4705]

What if it becomes Rayquaza Requiem much like how it is able to mega evolve cause it consumes meteors containing mega power

[@SubspaceTripmine66.6]

Rayquaza Requiem: removes the soul from everything in its universe.

[@pims2884]

Yeah but you could argue that it wasn’t an attack since it was shown that anyone who’s alive during the reset stays alive but in the new universe

[@ultr2961]

You could just argue Giorno just didn't have her at the time since he would really have no reason to keep the arrow inside of his stand after part 5

[@ultr2961]

And GER transcends time so going back in time would not work if GER was active

[@Xxperias]

Great video. Combining two of my favourite series, JoJo and Pokèmon, into one video? Chef's kiss.

[@hansanderson9556]

You could make the Combo wonder of U, See Moon and Green Day so that all the pokemons that withstand See Moon would be targeted by the flow of calamity, one after one, and you could even extend this combo with Cream, because it would maybe also be affected by See Moon thus falling and solving the problems of accidentally killing other stands.

[@CDVDD010]

Wonder of U is hard countered by the move Destiny Bond which kills whoever killed it. Since WoU isn't love train it can't redirect Destiny Bond and since it activates on moves like Future Sight it isn't dependent on the person attacking actually doing anything.

[@hansanderson9556]

@@choppercove Thanks!

[@hansanderson9556]

​@@CDVDD010 No it doesn't, because its not Wonder of U that Kills them but The Flow of Calamity and in the case of future sigth the user acctually attacks the the target (in the anime) and things like poison or Leech Seed can kill a destiny bond Pokemon without getting killed, to qoute Bulbapedia:"Destiny Bond does not activate from indirect damage" wich Wonder of U cerally is because the flow of calamity is a passive abillity.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@hansanderson9556 if we say that it is passive then a magic guard pokemon automatically counters Wonder of U and can subsequently use taunt to force it to actually attack itself. This ability can block anything that is not an attack from entry hazards, to burning rocks, and bad weather in terms of damage so I imagine it would block something like the rain turning into bullets or random environmental hazards, forcing the stand to use things like other pokemon or stands to actually hurt it. Also palkia I imagine would be able to actually kill Wonder of U afterwards with no issues due to space manipulation and just spacial rending it.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

And About the other stands, palkia can handle cream as well as any pokemon swift enough to attack cream when it peeks out of its dimension such as basically anything with extreme speed or the like. Green day I imagine may also be able to be easily intercepted by a flying mon or literally sniped by say rayquaza whom is circling a hundred meters above it and spamming hyper beam C moons gravity manipulation I imagine may also be countered by something like a prankster taunt mon or just having a legendary go and kill it via overwhelming force

[@UkUk-xt8yh]

Nah this is all fun and games until Judgment make thousands of master balls out of dirt

[@TheRSboy104]

0:30 haven’t watched the video yet but I already know Bohemian Rhapsody along with every character and a duplicate of every Pokémon is going to go crazy

[@zauraux]

pokemon: We have a Victini bohemian rapsody: We have a Victini

[@HHydraZ]

Heaven’s Door be like: The Pokemon will lose to the stands Then boom, stands win

[@uttkarshsingh2920]

Arceus be like: Stands don't exist Lake trio be like: Will doesn't exist Dialga and Palkia be like: Nothing at all exists

[@uuulpau9817]

Jirachi : let stands lose to pokemon You see Jirachi has same power to grant any wish and bend reality

[@FrogOnADogsSittingOnALog]

“Oh so you’re approaching me” “Pika pika pika pika” “Then come as close as you like”

[@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh]

Pikachu would get obliterated by basically any stand, it’s mainly the legendary Pokemon and some Pokemon with special abilities that stand a chance. (Most of those legendaries have stupidly powerful abilities and would wreck most stands with ease.)

[@CheeCatRootbeer]

Yveltal: *dies* The entirety of reality: *ima head out*

[@anthonygamer-jg3wn]

D4c lovetrain: "yey i won"

[@Bacongaming5457]

Bohemian Rhapsody would just summon every cartoon chacter and it would beat all the Pokémon

[@raidenpainn1561]

1: ghost types and metal types most likely ignore green day. 2: I wonder if Absol is affected by Wonder of U 3: definitely moves like teleport, that one point move, the weird psychic moves, *swords dance*, ghost type moves and others that most likely negate most stands. 3rd: what if that one weather pokemon is in the weather condition for heavy weather. 4th: you literally showed the pokemon that eradicate every life on earth (Yvetl), there is Mewtwo, there is Regigygas, Rayquaza, Kyogre and more. (There is also the best pokemon, Heracross and Genesect)

[@thetafritz9868]

damn I be lackin in pokemon knowledge, what does absol have in particular?

[@raidenpainn1561]

@@thetafritz9868 calamity prediction (according to the Pokedex)

[@haddy106]

Ghost types can't even be trapped by stands, they can exit battle at any point

[@sparkaward]

Absol is only able to detect Calamities in the folk lore of the Pokémon world, it doesn't actually have the ability. The reason people think that is because Absols live in mountains and will vacate into the surrounding areas (such as villages) when an avalanche is imminent.

[@homemovelha4173]

Why would absol be imune to wonder of u?

[@Cat-pv6yx]

Also all stands that can hit multiple Pokémon can just be countered by 1 Pokémon using wide guard, so they have to kill Pokémon 1 by 1

[@thetafritz9868]

true, who's your favored wide guard spammer

[@Tyto-ATTA]

Wobuffet has something to say and it’s time stop/purple haze/Grateful Dead, reflected mf

[@TheSameGuyXD]

Umm They Cant See Stands💀

[@SillyIMSOFAST]

WE WON THEN!

[@nova8198]

​@@SillyIMSOFAST nah. Arceus would just hit the restart button for earth

[@Imaginelikingdough]

but see ghost?

[@Stafflegends]

​@@nova8198return to zero can be used

[@Bharat_vihaan_dhruvin_buddies]

Just pretend they can

[@pTau_Gamma]

Here's a thought; The Green Green Grass of Home. Like, it's basically just a weaker version of Wonder Of U because it shrinks anything that pursues the user. So therefore, making the Pokemon attack the user would mean that they'd shrink and be easier to deal with in general. I don't see it talked about a lot, but I think that dealing with large groups like this would be a really fitting use for stands like TGGGOH. It's not really clear if the ATTACKS of the Pokemon would shrink as well, but if so, you'd have a really good chance of winning with this stand alone. Additionally, it pursues the assailants, so it's really only a matter of time before TGGGOH finds the Pokemon and kills them.

[@thetafritz9868]

I think normal Attacks do get shrunken, like the pebble tossed towards the baby, However, A number of pokemon can learn the move Teleport, and Palkia just controls space and just ignore the effect, and ZA HANDO spacial rend it out of existence, stunfisk can be a literal land mine that can get walked onto, and I'm sure there are a few more examples

[@thedarkesper5290]

Any Pokemon with a move that doesn't need to travel to reach a target, like Psychic, would be able to attack the Stand anyway since they never needed to approach it to begin with.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Can’t some of them just, not care? I mean, the ones that learn minimise just get it for free by approaching.

[@Xxperias]

I could see Notorious BIG taking on some of the lower tier pokèmon, but once you get to stuff like psychic types and higher tiers, Notorious BIG can be easily destroyed, erased or bfr'd

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

Alternatively they can just put BIG to sleep an entire planet/dimension away via portals or move before it with trick room since it matches the speed of the fastest thing around it Or paraflinch it

[@cassiopeia_real]

hoopa by itself negs 99% of the stands with bfr

[@havinearlong9055]

Actually B.I.G has infinity in durability. This might not seem significant, but even stands like 20th Century Boy ---- a stand that was shown to be so invulnerable and long lasting, it made its user unable to be killed by any natural causes and stopped thinking like Kars ----- only had an A in durability. Notorious B.I.G probably is absolutely truly immortal if it outmatched 20th Century Boy, and got infinity in durability. So probably it won't get erased by anything.

[@colmlooney5843]

Its a stand tho, so it cant be harmed by non stands

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@havinearlong9055 You have no proof. "Durability" as a ranking is horribly scuffed. Star Platinum has an A in "durability" and yet seems to regularly suffer damage from basically anything that harms stands. It is also horribly mistranslated as it is stamina in Japanese and eventually got turned to staying. For all intents and purposes it's stamina and infinite stamina on BIG just means it never stops chasing its target, which is essentially what it does. And BIG can get chipped away at by spice girls sticking a pole into it. It may not directly kill BIG but it shows BIG can be dispersed by physical damage. Doing something like outright deleting it (which we will not know directly if it works or not unless we somehow get okuyasu to try to delete it), paralyzing it, causing it to attack itself, sending it to another world via portals, and other non direct means would probably kill it or essentially take it out of the fight entirely.

[@hoaxes8537]

Stands: we have such strong and unique abilities theres no way we los- Pokemon: god. Stands:bu- Pokemon: god.

[@tuppiee1752]

Expect there a stand that get blessed by J E S U S

[@johndoesstuff352]

Jesus: who is this furry god?!

[@AmbreenFaisal-pb3bc]

No you see, the problem is that jojo protagonists always have some wacky plan or practically infinite in 😅

[@GodEmperor1981]

The fact that Pokémons no-diffs Stands was an eye-opener to me. Wonder what other fictions worlds I’ve just underestimated all this time…

[@autumnassassin8263]

The stands can at absolute best make the fight a tie. And that's assuming things like heavy weather aren't completely invalidated by rayquaza. The stands might gain a slight chance if the Pokémon were operating on game logic, because then a single star platinum punch could probably ohko just about anything. But taking lore into account the Pokémon are absolutely destroying the stands.

[@SpitfireKFMBT]

has anybody took into fact that if both giratina and darkrai work together they can make a black hole. strong enough to force the stands into the distortion realm and IT will trap them there FOREVER as long as giratina stays out of the distortion realm, MAKEING IT to where the stands basically cant escape because to escape giratina must have been killed, OR captured. and if hes not in the distortion realm can he really killed, not to include the fact that if all the ghost type pokemon or any other pokemon put the stands to sleep, THEY can use dreameater to kill them in there sleep.

[@The_OriX_LoL]

do stands even sleep though?

[@phiexi]

@@The_OriX_LoL See Death 13

[@llamahguy7229]

Golden experience requiem...

[@thetafritz9868]

ZA HANDO erases the black hole, definately hurting za hando in the process but removing the black hole

[@cffgjh5410]

and mega gradvior can make black holes

[@connordodge674]

Kira activates bites the dust, then pulls out a megaphone Kira: My name is Yoshikage Kira. I’m 33 years old- The sound of 1008 explosions ripple across the stadium as Kira is sent back in time

[@thetafritz9868]

Dialga walks up to kira as he's trying to activate bites za dusto, and says "no." with a finality that Kira can't even villain monologue over, and proceeds to get roar of time'd

[@Dr.Aurum25]

Any pokemon with Damp

[@connordodge674]

@@Dr.Aurum25 would only work if that Pokémon has a stand. That’s why stands are busted outside of their universe

[@Kennysdv]

Bites the Dust can only be activated in a non-stand user, so Bites The Dust isn’t doing shit

[@connordodge674]

@ He could pick literally any Pokémon.

[@BlisteredCrimson]

let me make my own version of this since i just dont want to accept that pokemon actually win heres the setting and stuff : random desert on a random habitable planet similar to earth, all planetary+ stands/pokemons will be fighting in a seperate dimension to make sure all of them fight enemies on similar levels both sides are aware of exactly what they are fighting and they have preparation time, all and all possible outcomes of stands/pokemons exist in the battle when the entities below planetary finish fighting and only one side remains, the remains of that side are teleported to the same dimension as the planetary+ entities and will be forced to fight alongside their own side, both sides are forced to pursue one another and defense is disabled. planetary+ stands : MiH, TWOH, Wonder of U, GER, SPOH, Super Fly, Cheap Trick, Tusk Act 4, D4C Love Train and Chariot Requiem planteary+ pokemons : Arceus, Palkia, Dialga, Giratina, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Deoxys, Cosmog, Cosmoem, and Solgaleo/Lunala... Victini? we'll be talking about the planteary fight only because we all know that cream, notorious b.i.g and some other random stands are just gonna utterly annihilate the normal pokemons Over heaven stands will be taking on Arceus (due to Arceus being stronger than every other pokemon combined), Wonder of U will literally be everywhere fighting all the pokemon, GER will be countering the overwriting of powerful pokemons, changes in time and reality, Super Fly will mainly focus on sacrificing one person in an attempt to either trap Arceus in it or make Arceus attack itself, Cheap Trick is the same as Arceus but two sacrifices and instantly kills Arceus, Tusk Act 4 is able to generate infinite energy therefore countering a few pokemons using energy related things, D4C Love Train using dimensions to counter dimensional related moves and Chariot Requiem will mostly be there for its ability to tank hits and not needing a stand user. Before the fight both sides will obviously prepare and since the over heaven stands will have similar abilities to Arceus' abilities, they will start overwriting themselves and other stands in a couple different ways to prevent being erased from reality/and or being overwritten, same could be said for the pokemons and so this will make it so one side cant just be erased entirely. Arceus : in short terms this pokemon is absolutely damned when its being attacked by 3 over heaven stands that cannot be changed in any manner or way, literally just a physical fight and a gank, so many other things too but we'll keep it simple here Palkia : Countered by GER and D4C : Love Train (entirely, GER literally just resets its ability and D4C Love Train just about has the same ability) Dialga : Time related stands such as the over heaven stands and GER aswell because its literally a direct counter to things like erasing time and other things. Giratina : Countered by over heaven stands and other stands relating to anti-matter, energy and dimensions. Lugia, Ho-Oh, Kyogre and Groudon : Not on the same power scale as the stands mentioned, easily defeated Deoxys : Not on the same power scale as the stands mentioned, easily defeated i think Cosmog, Cosmoem, and Solgaleo/Lunala : Countered by GER and D4C : Love Train Victini : Paradox, 3 godly stands, a stand that controls calamity itself, a stand that counters just about everything and so many other stands against a pokemon said to always win? no, nobody can figure out the victor for this battle. Over Heaven Stands Effects : MiH literally just distracts the other enemies and is simply just too fast, the speed of light is a mere suggestion for this stand. TWOH is the embodiment of an egoistic demi-god, combine this with the fact that dio twoh knows what hes up against, he'll make sure he wont make any wrong moves like what he did against jotaro in the normal anime fight (stardust crusaders) SPOH has plot armor, just kidding, the stand is just about as strong as TWOH and has a more disciplined user. TWOH and SPOH will simply overwrite other stands with a protection from reality bending (as the stands themselves can do this) and similar things such as immunity to time and other similar things. Wonder of U : Literally sabotages every single pokemon and is already protected by 3 "demi-gods" so the stand user is very unlikely to die. GER : Counters time related abilities and many other things, literally just a counter to just about anything. Super Fly : Once Arceus tramples on this thing Arceus will literally cease to exist unless it has protection from attacks as strong as the ones it casts. Cheap Trick : Ability to instakill anything and turn them into plushies, cant be killed because of similar protection to Wonder of U. Tusk Act 4 : Literally produces infinite energy. D4C Love Train : Access to dimensions and the ability to protect itself from anything below the power of the saints corpse or whatever, the saint mightve been a representation of an omnipotent deity so im not sure if D4C Love Train will be the MVP with this or just a counter to a few pokemon. Chariot Requiem : Swaps souls of pokemon, has extreme regeneration and is most likely just gonna be a tank.

[@desadograisedrobot515]

I'm just imagining the water stands and others ontop of Strength(The boat stand) fighting against water type pokemons and Kyogre. AeroSmith taking down flying types with Bad company's helicoptors.

[@throwawayemail8450]

unlikely as almost every flying type would fuckin eat them

[@M4x_P0w3r]

Pidgeot, a pretty unremarkable flying type, can create gales so strong they can stop a blizzard with a couple of wing flaps. And can also fly at twice the speed of sound. And Sharpedos are known for destroying supertankers on their own, which Strength is.

[@AjinoARC]

My guy is back with a Banger 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@TheTurdle]

"Morbius strip" 💀

[@rayquarizard2911]

Heavy Weather would be completely negated by Rayquaza’s Air Lock/Delta Stream lmao

[@braedenmclean5304]

Hate to say it, but it would be a no contest for the Pokémon. Just some examples (and not even the god Pokémon) Alakazam iq of 5,000 (he can outsmart anyones outsmarting) Gardivour can create black holes at will Shedinja if you look at its back hole your soul is sucked out Tyranitar *IMMUNE TO ANY AND ALL FORMS OF DAMAGE*

[@ZackShark1]

Smh why can so many Pokemons just make black holes

[@ouravantgarde]

i dont think its that simple because of some of the second continuity stands

[@r8tw8]

Heres the problem with trying to touch Arceus with a zombie from Blue Hawai. Bro is most likely gonna be in the air flying and he can stop time

[@EmergentSoul]

The Segway joke is still funny tho, I had to watch it a couple of times

[@GoofyahhFeddyfostercare]

Bohemian Rhapsody:laughs

[@Dark139hunter]

If it gets to activate

[@GoofyahhFeddyfostercare]

@@Dark139hunter that is true but assuming that it does than he would have Pokémon fighting on the stand’s side

[@wap1]

every stand, every pokémon, 1 billion lions. battle royale in the backrooms. who wins

[@leirbag1595]

I dunno man, that's a lot of lions.

[@Cqat1]

I feel like vanilla ice could also be really effective, just zooming around, killing everything it comes in contact with... it’s hard to say how it would work against for example palkia and dialga though...

[@norran42]

Giratina is a potential counter to Vanilla Ice because of its dimension-crossing powers. It may just be able to travel to his void and back

[@thetafritz9868]

Hoopa could just say hi to Vanilla Ice and Cream in their own dimension, and I assume palkia can just reach in with space bending powers, and yoink cream out and spacial rend it out of existence

[@lorekeeper685]

​@@norran42giratina has control over dimensions other than space and time(might include time weird sentence quirk) so yes

[@alexcastellarin212]

Couldn't bohemian rhapsody create a character stronger than every pokemon put together?

[@J0hnB09]

Arceus (not avatar) is omnipotent and could simply stop bohemian rhapsody from ever activating, or any time manipulating Pokémon.

[@snipermonkey8665]

Smeargle

[@Kennysdv]

Smeargle and Alakazam will cooked

[@dragondude7107]

On the one hand we have Magcargo, who is as hot as the sun. On the other hand, we have *the fucking sun*

[@Tekau1]

You have dialga and palkia which control time and space and arches who controls both. Doesn’t matter how fast you are dialga just bends time and palkia just changes its dimension

[@thetafritz9868]

4:40 Morbius strips, an Item to be held by a pokemon, giving them the ability to morb

[@darkmatter9643]

It’s more likely to be a stalemate since a couple of stands simply cannot be defeated without a direct counter to their ability.

[@Link-kr2bc]

any mold breaker can defeat them. Doesnt have to be a specific counter

[@darkmatter9643]

@@Link-kr2bc wonder of you, d4c love train, ger (technically we don’t know much about ger but from what we can assume it’s nigh invincible)

[@raikaria3090]

@@darkmatter9643 Wonder of U can easily be "defeated" by being ignored. Also, it can be defeated by unintentional attacks. If it gets caught up in a Draco Meteor fired at something else; it's not being persued. There's also the question of how Calamity interacts with Victini; who is literally Victory. If something like Primal Groundon tears up a wide area with Peripice Blades, and WoU while not the intended target; is there... there's also the fact that Calamity is stated to work like a "list". If 6 pokemon fire Hyper Beams at WoU from dirrect directions at once [so the same thing can't hit them all] is Calamity fast enough working down the list to hit all of them and prevent all 6 Hyper Beams? There's also the question on if something like a rampageing Gyarados attacking everything around it is "persureing" WoU. D4C Love Train - A lot of pokemon can bypass this; even regular ones. Moves like Shadow Force bypass Protect ect and cannot be defended against. Even if we want to ignore that; there is no way that D4C Love Train stops Hoopa; who can tear through dimensions [Like Tusk Act 4] or Palkia [Who can just NOPE any dimensional stuff because Space control; Palkia just turns Love Train off by locking down space] GER - Easily the hardest one, but consider Mew and Ditto both have Transform; which lets them copy the abilities and capabilities of something. So both Mew and Ditto can transform into GER. What's better. 1 GER or 2 GER?

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@darkmatter9643 Giratina and arceus ignores wonder of you due to having a similar property to Soft and wet’s bubbles where they exist and don’t at the same time. Love train gets wrecked by palkia since it embodies infinite space and can also rend apart space at will. Love train is also only able to be active when near Lucy so portal mons can just teleport Lucy somewhere else and basically cause valentine to get stuck somewhere, palkia can even destroy portals through time and space in spinoff games. GER can just be shoved into another dimension by the portal mons and rendered unable to participate in battle.

[@leirbag1595]

@@raikaria3090 I would argue any Pokemon who can rewind time could defeat GER. It works by returning your efforts to zero, but how can it reverse something that was already going in reverse? And in worst case scenario, Dialga stabilises time on a multiversal scale just by existing. Similarly to Palkia shutting down the Love Train, Dialga would nullify Return to Zero.

[@coolpoutine4819]

if your still not convinced.... i have 10 reasons extra 1: arceus has 6000 hands and he used ONE JUST ONE to make dialga who made time (counters mih,tw,sp) 2: arceus has 6000 hands and he used ONE JUST ONE to make palkia who made space (counters every) 3: darkrai.... Can make anything go to sleep and has the ability to give bad dreams and eat dreams (counters every) 4: zoroark can make an illusion to look like a stand and it could and fight from the inside (counters every) 5: giratina is on par with palkia or dialga if not stronger no one knows his power (counters no one knows) 6: uxie controls knowledge (counters every) 7: mesprit controls emotion (counters every) 8: azelf controls willpower (counters every) 9: kyogre controls water (counters weather report) 10: groudon controls ground (counters stamd who cant fly)

[@aabdo2139]

Love these videos Keep it up bro

[@cleberortiz515]

I really think that a pokemon like magcargo, according to a pokedex entry of the same, would just melt every stand with his 18000 degrees farenheit

[@_y4020]

Some dex entries are bogus, I'm pretty sure most of them are folklore

[@Nika-ue9vn]

It wouldn't

[@Xman34washere]

Scientifically, its not deadly to exist, but don't touch him

[@stealthbeatle4945]

Macargo’s body heat is insane but it doesn’t emit it (or it’d melt into the core of the planet), therefore, it wouldn’t do much to the stands.

[@sebas041296]

Plus Magcargo is a snail already so it's unaffected by heavy weather

[@T1tty5uck3r]

Shedinja is really good against most stands. Only Magician's, Weather and stray Cat. Are super Effective thus being able to hit them.

[@raikaria3090]

Wonder of U would be able to hit it with enviromental damage via calamity. The Sun is obviously fire-type damage. Pretty sure anything Death 13 does would count as Ghost or Dark-type. Or just as the Nightmare status which is passive damage. Any stand which poisons you would work. Heaven's Door could easily write something like "Shedinja takes 1 damage" or write in another stand "I do fire damage".

[@Rusty_Spy]

Like in Pokemon, that's not a high bar, and that only lists stands who's powers are those specific elements. Anything that can direct any source of fire at Shedinja could beat it.

[@cardboardhed1967]

I mean justice can control wind which would definitely count as a flying type attack, there's got to be way more examples

[@T1tty5uck3r]

@@cardboardhed1967 Justice would be ghost type, if haunter ain't it justice also

[@cardboardhed1967]

@@T1tty5uck3r isn't ghost type also super effective?

[@fatcat8121]

Everyone gangsta until bohemian rhapsody summons goku

[@Mario-j9d4i]

True

[@thealaskanbullworm1442]

underrated pick, survivor. when added with weather report, it could make the pokemon fight eachother

[@sebastianaraneda8147]

Just want to add, since gravity is an effect of the deformation of space (not a force), Palkia would be unafected by gravitational powers, as they are in the end spacial powers

[@pinkleafsheep]

bro yveltal alone makes pokémon take the w, if it dies then canonically it takes out all known life on the planet with it, so either the stands lose or there's a draw

[@cyrus8886]

Dialga and palkia literally just destroy the Jojo universe

[@yugimoto3296]

Wou even if the user dies the stand will still exist as it is the flow of calamity and calamity =logic

[@pinkleafsheep]

@@yugimoto3296 yeah but pokémon can be revived if they cry

[@yugimoto3296]

@@pinkleafsheep what would that do? Calamity will keep occurring and reviving would mean more collateral dmg for the pokemon

[@chaos2940]

....you do realize that calamity can't beat one of the megas that destroy calamity by working with it ?

[@mrmonkeragon]

If only novel kars or dio come every single pokemon be like :💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@robertcooper4th259]

3:12 so it loves a kid by making it suffer and no one has a problem with it.

[@andrei.1814]

I thought This would be easy because Every Pokemon Follow one rule, Every pokemon need to wait for the opponent to finish the attack💀

[@ashura-nz5xd]

not in the anime

[@andrei.1814]

​@@ashura-nz5xdSo Jojo win if it's Pokemon Game Version but Pokemon put a Super Super great Fight

[@ashura-nz5xd]

@@andrei.1814 yeah if its anime than pokemon win if its game jojos charaters may win

[@hasargel]

You seemed not to know but the Pokemon you showed as an example of how effective turning Pokemon to snails is, actually kills everything in a huge radius upon dying

[@thetafritz9868]

Psyduck & Golduck Cloud nine Rayquaza Air Lock Mega Rayquaza **Delta Stream** Pokemon spamming overriting weather moves just to incapacitate heavy weather like sandstorm, sunny day, rain dance, hail There's even Tornadus Landorus, and thunderous, Heavy Weather will be so frustrated at how futile it's attempts are

[@hypr9322]

@@thetafritz9868 and then kq btd comes in and reverse it 💀 its just gonna be liek that over and over lmao

[@bird1729]

​@hypr9322 that's not how btd works though, has to be from finding out Kira's identity so it's basically useless in this scenario. Even if you removed that condition you can argue that pokemon like Dialga or Arceus could override its effects

[@Imaginelikingdough]

@@hypr9322 diagal at the back

[@Shruggied]

not even watched the whole vid yet alrady know its gonna be a banger

[@gabbycal]

I think that the stands would win but only due to the calamity stuff and how it is an absolute law.

[@AlexanderColey-q6c]

Wonder of u just sitting there after watching everyone on his side die Wonder of u: I wonder if I should done something

[@CaptainParlow]

The sound for weather report scared me bc its my phone alarm sound

[@youraveragebutler9423]

I think everyone forgets one major aspect. The winner is dependent on whether or not this is based in the Pokémon universe or not. Cause if I recall, the God tiers can only affect the Pokémon universe, while stands, since they're not locked by statements such as that, could affect any. If it's in the Pokémon universe, they will stomp unless cheap trick pulls a fat W or survivor gets ahold of a water-type and makes all the Pokémon fight each other. If it's anywhere but the Pokémon universe, Jojo stands hard clap.

[@thetafritz9868]

so you're saying stands would win if the pokemon are not at their full potential, a bit less relevant

[@thelastmlg2699]

“The god tiers can only affect the pokemon universe” That is not a thing anywhere, they control whatever universe they are in even if we don’t equalize reality and make their true forms embody the universe this fight takes place Or else dio can only stop time in jojo’s world, or WOU can only use it’s powers there since calamity is law of the jojo world, etc

[@Sayori393]

The legend returns with another legendary introduction into the the series

[@user-sv9xg6mg1d]

Adding a little wonder of U, victini would probably be his ultimate counter Why, you may ask? Well, in the pokedex and anime, its said that victini brings luck to whereever he is... which will completely negate WoU's calamity

[@superclusterdeluxe]

Im telling you guys, Joseph could find a way to beat every pokemon.

[@Animetronik14]

Thank you for finally doing it thank youuuuuuu

[@miranhaespada1381]

So technically we have a draw Because in one side there is the Pokémon that can't lose On the other side there is GER, that can't lose too So there's an infinite draw

[@JJSquirtle]

Giratina is the tie breaker. Shadow Force bypasses not just protect, which is an impenetrable barrier (which yes, means that funny valentine gets owned) but also detect which is literally precognition meaning ger can't rtz shadow force. Any pokemon with phantom force could also do this, but giratina is much more likely to be around for the final length of the fight due to its ability to dimensional dip into and out of its own domain: the reverse world.

[@mynameisntjoe3024]

Dialga would beat GER Arceus>Dialga Arceus also beats GER

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

@JJSquirtle epitaph is precognition, and ger reverts that. Diavolo technically didn't even exist in time erase, and ger surpassed that.

[@xander6153]

@@SnailSnail-lo4pm completely different, epitaph is something that hasn’t happened yet, it was overwritten by ger, shadow force is the worst outcome and opposite of that interaction. If ger wins, ger loses, if ger loses, then giratina won’t activate ability, and ger will still lose

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

@xander6153 dude, it's not. Epitaph says exactly what happens in 10 seconds. Detect tells the pokemon how the enemy will attack. That's precog. And it WAS overwritten. Diavolo saw that giorno would die, that means giorno WAS GOING TO DIE. But then ger overwrite that. And again. Time erase makes diavolo technically not exist in that time, ger could still react to him, talk to him, and revert his actions to 0. And that's assuming Giratina would move at all, when diavolo went to attack giorno after getting his time erase stopped, he straight lost the willpower to attack him.

[@Thanos6663am]

Yveltal would likely be immune to Heavy Weather's power due to the pokémon being an undead creature

[@thetafritz9868]

most steel type pokemon/ mechanical pokemon too

[@Recycled_Bag]

No matter what happens the Pokémon will win because victini’s Pokédex entry says that any fight it is in will result in victory for victini.

[@nicholasaugello2534]

That's kinda of a no limits fallacie but it's stated in game and realistically I could see GER beating it but that's it like no other stand I could imagine beating Victini

[@bredbymaggie1472]

What happens if it isn’t a fight but a beating

[@DkKobaADV]

bruh using pokedex entries is copium because theyre all clearly exaggerated and fake as fuck

[@nicholasaugello2534]

@@DkKobaADV I did say that it's a no limits fallacie but be that as it may victinie still actually would destroy most stands outside of ones vanilla ice and GER and that poison stand that kills things if they're Y level goes up or down

[@chrishansen8119]

@@nicholasaugello2534 it's stated in the Pokedex, which is very wishy washy. It's moreso folklore than anything. That's why Dex entries for the same pokemon can be wildly different between the gens

[@Xena10000]

Lol your editing is really funny and your commentary is fast and snappy. Keep it up

[@kubavvv9881]

blud forgot bohemieth rhaspody

[@docilelikewintercatfish]

Hevens Door only need to write "I solo every pocket monsters" and the fight is already over

[@Imaginelikingdough]

wouldn't work because of diagal and palkia always stabilzing the universe plus any pokemon with magic guard,mold breaker and ng direct his attempt

[@docilelikewintercatfish]

@@Imaginelikingdough then he can write 'give me a lot of master balls' & catch every god in existence

[@Imaginelikingdough]

@@docilelikewintercatfish have read the manga by any chance

[@docilelikewintercatfish]

@@Imaginelikingdough well, all other media except the game is non canon so applying the game logic, even I can catch them all if I lived in the pokemon world

[@Imaginelikingdough]

@@docilelikewintercatfish you know game are the farther thing from canon right like even in the generation vids it shows legendary pokemon breaking out of master balls and these and the anime is the closest thing to canon we have

[@Roger-wp5me]

As shown in Jojo's bizarre adventure, WOU can also attack so he can just attack the Pokemon and if they tried to counter attack calamity would happen.

[@thedarkesper5290]

It's all fun and games until the Spoink uses Magic Bounce. *Or the Machamp with No Guard uses Guillotine.*

[@Hasde_dfs]

​@thedarkesper5290 you know how calamity triggers right? Anything done that will hurt it indirectly or directly triggers it.

[@memememe7081]

I think placing wonder of U in this fight would just turn this Pokémon battle into every stand vs every Pokémon fighting each other. Of course like, probably almost every stand user will probably be wiped out at some point because Pokemon are absolutely wack but I’m pretty sure it will come down to the strongest pokemon surviving the last and then fighting the rest of the stand users

[@mswerkmeister]

@@memememe7081 all but 7 pokemon can learn mimic via TM. Mimic transform from ditto or mew. All pokemon have transform and can change at will to any other pokemon whenever they want or into hundreds of each of the best stands. If we are talking peak pokemon and going off of pokedex entries, in game lore, and game mechanics... it's not even a competition

[@memememe7081]

@@mswerkmeister I’m sorry but learning mimic on something that they cant even comprehend nor interact with is a little iffy. I mean if we could even consider stands fighting ghost types in Pokémon, that’d be quite a stretch considering not every ghost in the series has shown to be a Pokémon themselves. Also I’m pretty sure the calamity would probably activate for them even thinking about that

[@joemama-xg4qs]

theres one surefire way of defeating pokemon... and that is with pokemon. survivor is a stand that cannot tell friend from foe, making it practically a bomb. as soon as it explodes, death shall consume all. this makes nobody win, as all the pokemon will kill eachother, all the stands will kill the pokemon, and then kill every remaining stand. then again, if the single houndstone manages to survive through the survivor effect, i'd imagine power levels rivaling even goku and saitama.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

Several counters such as gholdengo and such exist among the Pokemon. Magic bounce would also reflect the ability back on survivor.

[@joemama-xg4qs]

magic bounce wouldn't reflect an electric current going through the ground, just like it doesn't reflect earthquake or thunder

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@joemama-xg4qs it's akin to thunder wave more than it is earthquake or thunder. Earthquake or thunder are direct attacks, meant to deal damage. Magic bounce explicitly deflects things such as thunder wave and such, which is an electric shock meant to paralyze, not deal direct damage. I imagine it's more logical to assume that magic bounce would bounce back an electric current meant to drive a pokemon into a rage by manipulating its mind like it would do to confuse ray, swagger, taunt, or other such moves and not treat it like an attack.

[@juanacosta7037]

Several pokemon would outright erase them from reality or prevent it to begin with. Dialga just cheats with completely free access to time, Palkia will just outright erase you and Arceus is fucking everything. Even something like Celebi can travel to the past at will to prevent something like that from happening.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@juanacosta7037 may also be worth noting that in one of the pokemon movies Dialga *casually* causes Giratina to get stuck in an infinite loop if it tries to exit its domain by its own power.

[@vortex_all9055]

rohan would look for the six strongest pokemon, use heavens door, and then write "is now loyal to kishbe rohan and non other than kishbe rohan" and would go on his own pokemon adventure for insperation

[@teleportsbehindyou5450]

There is an ability in jojo that no pokemon can beat. "so it's the same type of ability as star platinum"

[@TheAvgCrusader]

What about Bohemian Rhapsody? Couldn't it just... I dunno... summon like The Doom Slayer (from Eternal specifically) or something? Maybe like, actual Satan? Just pop Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann in there? I mean if it's just the stand, and no user, isn't Bohemian Rhapsody just the most busted? Like, it could just summon one of the characters/beings I just mentioned, or any other multiverse ending thing, and call it a day.

[@magaligalizmo8287]

Bohemian Rhapsody summons twoh 💀

[@nokia7552]

you could also argue that jailhouse lock would be effective as in stone ocean we see jailhouse lock amplify its size to confuse a whole group of gaurds also another good stand would be bad company whic would turn the fight into every stand in jojos and an army vs every pokemon while you can argue that bad company can only follow one command after its given but splash damage from rockets only count as one attack also death 13 and whitesnake would be a good combo as in part 6 whitesnake makes jolyne and jotoro sleep using that white substence and death 13 could kill these pokemon in their forced sleep

[@lemonboi5670]

but you forgot about bites the dust can kill the other Pokémon by just looking at it so after bites the dust blows them all up you can just deactivate it and boom fight over you just need to do that a couple more times to kill them all

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

The pokemon have time travelling mons and the god of time who probably can undo BTD according the Pokedex: HGSS entry for Dialga: "This Pokémon completely controls the flow of time. It uses its power to travel at will through the past and future."

[@stego-]

@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8GER rtz can just reverse dialga going back in time.

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@stego- if it’s not an action taken against GER or Giorno that harms them specifically it won’t work against it. GER didn’t care about universe reset and time acceleration or the numerous times jotaro stopped time

[@juanacosta7037]

@@stego- Actions not taken against GER itself aren't reversed, so Dialga and Celebi's abilities to go back and forth between time can't just be stopped

[@juanacosta7037]

@benjy- Arguably since it isn't even harmful, Dialga could potentially send Ger to the past or future to shut them down entirely since they'd no longer be able to participate, like how Dialga sends ash and the gang back in time in the Arceus movie

[@evanstarrs3100]

*bohimein rhapsody intensifies*

[@ThatGuyWithNoLife]

Yo just get D4C to summon clones and it's wraps!!!

[@grygoriiovsianikov6671]

There is 1 stand that will prevail (if all Pokémon are aggravated): ZA HANDO ZA WARUDO Once it stops time, it can erase anything it desires, even launch himself upwards if necessary. And since every Pokémon is aggravated, then that means that every Pokémon that can live in space will be on Earth attacking ZA HANDO ZA WARUDO. And bye bye goes their life, erased into nothingness.

[@Roads2LaughTale]

Dialga unfortunately moves during the timestop since it's the God of Time and Arceus since it's higher in power.

[@grygoriiovsianikov6671]

@@Roads2LaughTale ok but what about GER? if he is to punch you, your consciousness would go "berserk" and leave your body, meaning you cannot move at all for like 5-10 seconds, leaving GER enough time to get you with "infinite death". and once you're gotten with infinite death, there is no escape.

[@nicholasaugello2534]

@@grygoriiovsianikov6671 ok so how do explain GER vs Dialga let alone Arceus and the rest

[@nicholasaugello2534]

Also zahando is budget spacial ren 🤣 that's not even a Pokemon that's just an attack that Palkia can do 🤣

[@grygoriiovsianikov6671]

@@nicholasaugello2534 Not really, no. Za Hando is not just for erasing things, so it's not just budget Spacial Ren either. It can also use ZA FOOT, did you forget?

[@tubebob5351]

i would like to say that there is an ablity in pokemon called neutralizing gas, it surpresses other ability, and if you count stands as an ability than the stands would just disappear

[@nicograsso3907]

you could also site mold breaker but you chose the one exlusive to the top hat tummor.... respect

[@leirbag1595]

Neutralising gas would basically reduce every fighter on the arena to their physical attributes, without Abilities/Stand Powers Yeah that screws Stands over a lot more than it does for the Pokemon.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@leirbag1595yup, the ones that lack physical forms are basically neutered.