Ted DiBiase on his Falling Out with Virgil

'The Million Dollar Man' Ted DiBiase looks back at his Hall of Fame career, from Mid-South, to Japan, to WCW, to WWF, and everywhere in-between! Join Ted and Marcus every Friday at 6am ET on all podcast platforms or if you want early access, get it commercial free on Premier+ with Premier Streaming Network!

[@dwade6322]

The look on Ted's face when he found out Virgil's real age. 😮

[@brooklynjim2099]

I met Virgil about 20 years ago on the Coney Island Boardwalk... there was a wrestling event taking place at the Cyclones baseball stadium (I think it was MCU park at the time)... he had a table set up, but he had nothing to do with the event... his table was set up a few blocks away next to a Bar on the Boardwalk (Cha Cha's)... myself and a few friends bought some photos from him and we actually spoke with him for about 10 minutes... he was an absolute gentleman... the police were there and I think they probably could have thrown him off the boardwalk, but they didn't, they just let him be.. and he was very respectful to them as well.. I am a wrestling fan from way back.. never was a big Virgil fan.. until the day I met him in person... from that day on I was a huge Virgil fan... R.I.P Virgil

[@joen8529]

Really? I had a hilariously bad experience meeting Virgil that earned him all the bs and reputation he got online as lonley Virgil.

[@joen8529]

Everything Ted is saying here about Virgil lying about having Ted at cons with him, lines up with what my experience was.

[@brooklynjim2099]

@@joen8529 that sucks that you had a bad experience - It's hard to judge someone from one meeting... maybe he was having a bad day when you met him... or maybe it was just a good day when I met him... who knows...

[@bunbee2023]

I can attest to this….I met Virgil about 13 years ago at a sportscard show here in Toronto and he was an absolute pleasure to speak with. He told me lots of stories, signed a photo and took a pic with me holding the Million Dollar Belt. RIP Mike Jones 🙏🏾

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@bunbee2023all it means is Virgil wasn’t horrible to strangers he met on the streets lol I don’t get why people always say “well I met them once, & they didn’t cuss me out, so obviously they’re good people” lol There are literal serial killers who were pleasant to 99% of the people they’d interact with…..doesn’t mean all that much tbh

[@mattm6580]

At the 87 slammys, when all the wrestlers are clapping and singing to "If you only knew", Virgil just stands in the middle of it all emotionless. It's great.

[@extremeking425]

crazy to think virgil was older than ted

[@Peppers19781978]

He was older than most in the WWE at that time too based on this. Savage was born in 1952. Hogan was born in 1953. DiBiase and Piper were born in 1954.

[@hnican]

Cool that Ted understood why Virgil was doing what he was doing.

[@bigj6143]

Strange and sad how organizations like WWE can make money off your likeness yet when your heyday is over they dump you like trash. Unless you are Undertaker or the like. Vigil was not a big star but he did have some success and he did work for both WWE and WCW at a time when wrestling saw its best days entertainment wise. I would say money wise too but everything cost more, people make more money, but it doesn't mean the quality is as good. Nice of Ted to try and look out for Virgil. It is annoying though to have someone else use your name to get bookings. Illegal too I should add.

[@billyshead1339]

I can believe it. Ted looks fantastic

[@robs531]

He always looked great when I saw him.

[@petepillow8642]

I STILL LAUGH WHEN TED KICKED THE BASKETBALL AWAY FROM THE BOY BOUNCING IT!!! YAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA

[@d_zazter2601]

Racist

[@OikPoinFive]

​@@d_zazter2601know he was knot

[@petepillow8642]

The Million Dollar Man gave opportunities , kind of like Trump , its only racist if youallow it to be and dont see the bigger picture , good luck in your life, hope you find love , be it black ,white , asain , or aquatic@@d_zazter2601

[@petepillow8642]

money money money money monnneeeyyyyy@nonofyourbusiness7816

[@aznnp77]

I just watched a video of Ted talking about it. He said he apologized profusely to the kid and his parents. And the kid did get the money. And years later he actually met the kid at a shop or something all grown up. And the kid actually went to college on a basketball scholarship. Funny story.

[@stevecorino1]

The irony of hearing the million dollar man say he couldn’t afford to fly Virgil around is priceless.

[@joeriveracomedy]

The state of mississippi couldn't afford to fly out virgil?

[@lakebay972]

Apparently not, Mississippi is usually in the bottom 5 in State economy.

[@pauls9844]

Mike Shaw was a good dude. Messaged me in the late 90s when I had a website featuring him and other lame WWF gimmicks. Nicest guy.

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

Mike Shaw ripped me off for $200 back in the 90s. I'm not BS'ing.

[@alexandermacdougall7873]

He was great in Stampede

[@alanguages]

I heard he started eating uncontrollably after accidentally killing someone.

[@isitoveryet9525]

Being nice to you one time, in the late 90s doesn’t = being a good dude, or the nicest guy lol The way some of yall judge what makes “good” people is so elementary…..”the guy messaged me back 30 years ago, so obviously that means I know the REAL Mike Shaw” 😂😂😂

[@kingash71]

What a terrible thing to do. Glad he didn’t steal government money that was meant for the poor.

[@huckstaunfiltered8200]

@kinhash71 Hahaha... "Government money"... Lmao You mean fiat money that "Your Government" borrowed from a bank, that the tax payers, have to flip the bill for..!?! (There is NO such thing, as "Government money"..!!)

[@williamgilbert682]

Government money..😂😂

[@mikeg2491]

@@huckstaunfiltered8200ironically more people are poorer because the government keeps borrowing and debasing the dollar

[@Plainview-tu7xn]

​@@mikeg2491 People have been brainwashed into thinking government is a provider. The government is the thief.

[@jordancarson]

Allegedly.

[@thelowesttreeshavetops3541]

Ted: "I heard Virgil was going through some real hard times and was starving, so he applied for welfare in Mississippi...but all that money's mine."

[@OikPoinFive]

Maybe ted lost to Missouri via a DQ so a cheap loss. Hee hee

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

Nobody's gonna get that Mississippi welfare joke, I do tho 😂 and so does the DOJ

[@Ishbikes]

You mean Brett Farve

[@NOV123]

Regarding Virgil’s age, you could tell in ‘87 when he started managing Dibiase that he was in his mid to late 30s. No way did Virgil ever look to be in his late 20s.

[@edospina97]

He definitely looked like he was in his 70s in his last photos.

[@lakebay972]

Turned out he WAS in his 70s

[@Ishbikes]

@@lakebay972😂

[@robdogg9156]

Ted’s FOS

[@TheHannibalTV]

Interesting

[@joen8529]

Everything Ted is saying here about Virgil lying about having Ted at cons with him, lines up with what my experience was.

[@steelcurtain187]

This was a great clip

[@bradfry5403]

Not all wrestlers can be like Hulk Hogan or a Bret Hart the business need guys like Virgil solid med card competitors.

[@ShadowAngel606]

He wasn't midcard, lol. He was a jobber. There's a reason why he was so rarely used as a competitor. He completely sucked, couldn't talk, had no charisma and even his face turn against Ted was so ill-received, Vince felt the need to add Roddy Piper to get some crowd reactions.

[@aznnp77]

Yeah but if you stay with the company a while, Vince pays you pretty well. I think I saw Zach Ryder was making like 600-700K a year, despite being rarely used.

[@walterdavies6434]

I wanna know how much $ vince paid virgil

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

Virgil clearly missed being a bad guy...like the Razor. Being an independent baby face doesn't pay the bills, cheeko.

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

Chico.

[@TheRmm1976]

Not surprised about his age. In my opinion black people age better in general.

[@JFRIZBALADON]

I met Virgil in person he was a pz of 💩 but rip

[@EdmundKempersDartboard]

Dying doesn't improve someone's character. This whole "don't speak ill of the dead" thing is stupid, nevermind disingenuous.

[@sethmartin7084]

It's more don't speak ill of them right after they die

[@DBtrainfanatic]

Ted and I ate breakfast together at the 2010 NWA reunion in Charlotte. Ted is a great guy. Virgil, on the other hand, almost started a fight with my brother that was with me and my wife. Seems like Virgil had some Demons in his life. I hope he was able to overcome them.

[@dwade6322]

Classy of you to have ended your story w/those words. Many would not have been so kind with their words.

[@Stitchlii]

Black men and women age like fine wine

[@Ishbikes]

Some do..The rock is aging pretty good. He’s half black. R Truth. They look good in their 50’s

[@commonsense9908]

Look 45 at 18 years old and still look 45 at 60 years old.

[@btipton6899]

Whitney didn't 😮

[@PassivePortfolios]

Virgil (so named as an insult to Dusty Rhodes) was lucky to be in the situation he was given his lack of wrestling talent and mediocre promos. He undermined himself and ended up unemployed. His addiction to recreational drugs only made his situation worse.

[@oblongbox5110]

A lot more happened in that situation, but I'm trying to figure out who the hell asked you to be a crappy reporter. Stick to what you know Karma being a nobody.

[@lakebay972]

Then he goes to WCW, joins the nWo and is named Vincent. Things that make you go hmm…

[@PassivePortfolios]

@@lakebay972 he just wanted a paycheck because he wore out his welcome elsewhere.

[@aznnp77]

He wouldn't be the only former pro wrestler addicted to alcohol, drugs, or pain killers.

[@PassivePortfolios]

@@aznnp77 and those wrestlers ended up badly as well.

[@m.michaels]

O&A party Rock!!!!!

[@takeonparis]

I saw Ted... and Virgil... at the ComicCon (Wizard World) in Chicago 2009. (It's the last thing I did before I left the country for good). I didn't want an autograph or a photo or anything... I just wanted to shake their hands and thank them for what they'd done. At that point... You couldn't have guessed there was ANY heat between the two of them..(Also... Looking at both of them side-by-side... and actually BEING Black... I was pretty sure I was looking at two men about the same age.)

[@80sNewWaveGeek]

Yep I was also there at that same Chicago comic con event. I think Greg Valentine and a few others were also there. I walked up near Dibiase's table, he and Virgil were conversing and I didn't want to bother them. But at least I got to see them in person.

[@takeonparis]

@@Kevin_Harte Spain first... Then Germany... Now France.

[@takeonparis]

@@80sNewWaveGeek I was WAAAY too intimated to talk to anyone else. I never get starstruck... but something about things from when you were a kid. I did talk to Raven though... He was a DICK! 😂

[@Ishbikes]

@@takeonparisimagine someone pulling off being 10 years younger. Hard to pull off

[@takeonparis]

@@Ishbikes Boogeyman did the same thing. And Batista.

[@tehshingen]

I gladly paid him twenty Canadian dollars for a picture. He was part of so much memories of late 80s WWF, like the first arcade game where the bosses was Andre and Ted, and Virgil made the cutscene. My video gamer gushes about Technos gameplay and the wrestling fan digs the details. Of course I paid him for a picture.

[@bluethunder5694]

Ted calling someone else out for shady behavior is comical

[@LanceBass2022]

Yeah. For those who don't know, do a quick Google search on Ted Dibiase and his sons. I won't share it here - involves money, a ministry, and fraud.

[@kevtn8]

For what ? Don't confuse what his son did for him. They both have the same name.

[@LanceBass2022]

@@kevtn8 The elder DiBiase's Heart of David Ministries allegedly received $1.7 million in welfare money in exchange for providing "leadership training" that never occurred.

[@Deeky76]

​@@kevtn8He was up to his neck in it too... Come on ffs... Just because he hasn't been prosecuted doesn't mean he's not guilty

[@bluethunder5694]

@@kevtn8 with the time you wrote this comment you could have googled him and found along with his 2 sons he is being sued for 24 million dollars . apples never fall far from the trees and just because you liked his rassling doesn't mean he isn't a scumbag

[@jimodirakallumkal5351]

Where the heck is tex dibiases money 💰 if he cant afford to buy a plane ticket or hotel room here n theee for virgil.... he had to have made a lot more money then virgil

[@65if2007]

I never have any need whatsoever to look at the Bastion Booger picture. There is never any call for that. I'd rather do a jig with the Gobbledy Gooker.

[@dannyboywwe]

Damn the Million Dollar Man cant afford to fly in poor Virgil for a appearance😢

[@MyNameIsUnavailable]

He can afford it, just not paying for another grown man 50 times a year. Pay ya own way.

[@curthennig9448]

Should have given him his Mississippi credit card.

[@aznnp77]

It's easy to say I guess, but after your performing career is over, you've just gotta get another job. Heard people say Virgil won't say hi or sign anything or do anything with the fans unless he's paid. I get it I guess, but that's not what you wanna hear from people u grew up watching and idolized.

[@JosephMiller-gh6mv]

Virgil was how old then and in the shape he was in , and if i had a friend who needed money and could make money off my name and it doesnt hurt or get me sued then make the money , because i bet back in the day who got the bigger pay day when they worked together .

[@chinatownboy7482]

Reality is, he could have gotten a job somewhere, and worked for a living.

[@randi_godspeed2063]

Marcus, how could you? I can never unsee that pic. I feel sorry for Virgil, thinking he had to go to those lengths. Sometimes you need to acknowledge a sign from God that it’s time to get a regular job. God’s blessings 👩‍🦳✝️💙💪💥

[@OikPoinFive]

I fear for virgil, big time liar is big time unsaved sinner.

[@kM-ij2ly]

How do you know?

[@WinstonWolfe21]

3:25 Awww 🥰 Ted is a teddy bear, that’s incredibly kind.

[@jolly7041]

I believe what Ted Dibiase says that its true that he didnt know that he was supposed to show up with Virgil and stuff..since Virgil likes to joke bout other ppl and other bullshitting stories he says on his Instagram account.

[@jeffkleist9679]

Virgil told me that he was being flown every month to Japan and making $20,000 for a long weekend of work. If that was ever true, he was doing a very different kind of wrestling

[@Ishbikes]

😔.. I mean look what Tony Atlas is doing

[@jeffkleist9679]

@@Ishbikes I'm sorry I'm not in on that, can you educate me?

[@Ishbikes]

@@jeffkleist9679 my comment would get deleted if I wrote it. Just type *Tony Atlas white* in google.

[@mexmexican8619]

Is Ted Jr still in jail?

[@notapuss]

Who cares wrestling is kayfay razor Ramon wasn't Latino or other wwe weren't them

[@derrickjohnson4045]

Big Virgil was a Money Hawk

[@bigfuturepreschool]

Wait Ted thinks he is a draw?

[@gamerfourlife64]

did he ever get that "fuck money" as he used to call it XD

[@MarkBowman-i1k]

Ted DiBiase reminds me of televangelist Mike Murdoch.

[@danielshannon6027]

He reminds me Jeff McCone, who had a late night infomercial about selling real estate.

[@rightbro]

And you remind me of the silence of the lambs tuck guy!

[@TWO4Lyfe]

Didn’t y’all bleed the funds of the poor of the State of Mississippi?

[@mb41329]

yea they did

[@333browns]

He was basically a good guy???

[@markula_4040]

Ted just found out he was the student, not the mentor.

[@haljordan777]

No. Virgil was just an old student. Mentor/student is based on knowledge and experience, not necessarily age.

[@JohnHoffman-ws9cd]

I met Virgil in San Diego on the trolley train. He was standing right next to me and we talked. He was a cool cat. He was in San Diego for the Comic Con. This was in the early 2000's.

[@chocolatetownforever7537]

So here is the story about my friends and myself, meeting Virgil. It was the first Saturday in May of 2000. At the time, I was going to IUP, a college about an hour North of Pittsburgh. I was always a fan of thoroughbred racing as a kid, so id bet on the Kentucky Derby every year, and it became something that my college buddies would join me in as well. At that time, they didnt have apps or internet sites where you could bet from home, so youd have to go and bet it at an actual racetrack or OTB parlor. We would pile in my car and drive down to downtown Pittsburgh every year to bet it. We get down there, and are betting some of the preraces, and are talking, when a black guy stands next to us, and my buddy says, "Youre Virgil, The Million Dollar Man, Ted DiBiase's manager!" I at first laughed to myself, because it was so random of a thing to say that I thought my friend was just joking, and I had no inkling that Virgil was even from Pittsburgh. I turned around to look, and all I hear is this black guy, in a very loud way, saying, "Yeah, thats right, and WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?" We were all taken back by this. I thought it was hilarious, only because my buddy LOVED the WWE as a kid, and was just made fun of by a guy he looked up to as a lil kid. After Virgil walked away, you could see the embarrassment on my friends face, and while he was red, he was able to laugh about it a few minutes later, and we just went on with our day of betting and watching the horses. I gotta admit, I like betting, so UNLIKE my friends, I would bet as many races as I could, so that meant a bunch of trips to to make wagers, and since there were so few of lines with actual live workers in this OTB parlor, Id just always bet on those self service machines they had. Id say about two hours or so later, I went back to where the machines were, was placing a bet, and all the sudden I hear somebody literally smashing the machine next to mine with his fists, and swearing about something about a jockey lol. I look at who the person was, and you guessed it? It was Virgil. When I went back to my friends to watch my race, I told them that I was going out on a limb and saying that I didnt think Virgil was having a very profitable day at the Kentucky Derby that day lol. True story. Ill never forget that day, and my friends from school who I am still close with, we still bring it up and laugh about it every so often lol. Anyway, RIP Virgil. Hope youre having better luck on the Derby up in heaven than you did down here back in 2000.

[@TheLokiBiz]

Virgil had his demons and could be a bit of a hustler... But at least he never defrauded state welfare programs.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

That is REAL DIRTY that Virgil did that! It makes the man Ted Dibiase look bad!

[@dlee4236]

I called the falling out weeks ago and took crap about it.

[@HereIsWisdom1318]

3:45-No! Thats everyone who was supposed to be a lower-than midcarder that actually was given a chance to make it big!

[@Quadster19]

I'm not sure I believe that. That puts him at 42 years old in 1993 going up against Yokozuna.

[@caughtlooking2019]

Hearing then million dollar man say he can’t afford to fly out Virgil is hurtful to my inner 10 year old

[@rickybobby420.]

People do funny things when it comes to money Ted eh?

[@lunisic]

Can wait to hear lyin tes's version of this story...

[@willieellis7009]

Several people said that when Virgil was at cons, he would tell the people come on over here buddy let’s get a picture and autograph for you and give him the autograph and then he would tell him you know it’s just like $250 or $350 for the pitcher and autograph Afterwards. A lot of people got PO about that back in the day when Virgil was alive but I bet their cherishing those autographs in those pictures now hope you rest in peace my friend I read it for you when you was kicking $1 million man’s butt always love to see you come out with $1 million man, but love to even more when you. Fault against him. I’m so upset I can’t even write.

[@m.michaels]

It's true. Look up Opie and Anthony and Sam Roberts talks about getting conned by Virgil and watching people getting conned by Virgil. There's compilations on it.

[@SoulforSale]

Virgil was best as Teds body guard

[@raising_arizona]

The Million Dollar Man is coming to a small card shop in Phoenix on 5/11 to sign autos for $50.

[@rightbro]

I thought he was a millionaire!! Ha ha

[@yak596]

Virgil was 73? 😮 black dont crack frfr.

[@Music-qt3ok]

I thought that he became a math teacher.

[@TheRmm1976]

that would be chico Santana!

[@Music-qt3ok]

@@TheRmm1976 his Wikipedia said he became a math teacher.

[@TheRmm1976]

@@Music-qt3ok I see that, but question that it's true. Anyone can edit Wikipedia.

[@JohnEastmanExAttyAtLaw]

I had no idea he was in his 70s.

[@FallicIdol]

He aged well

[@TD-sw3kv]

Ted shouldnt speak ill of a deceased guy who was partially responsible for his biggest run. Bottom line. Just tell the good stories. You have to have some.

[@joes0406]

Don't you have to submit your ID to companies you work for?

[@curthennig9448]

WWF only required pictures of you in your underwear. They went straight to Pat Patterson(no pun intended).

[@lakebay972]

Not if you’re an independent contractor as are the wrestlers.

[@mattx9260]

why lie about the age?

[@danielshannon6027]

Celebs do it all the time.

[@Philippinesbound42]

Virgil was dirty

[@Black-Circle]

Ted is a good guy and a man of the lord as well

[@danielshannon6027]

How do you know??

[@mkultra5752]

He stole money from the welfare state...he is not a good man and you are delusional

[@eshep71]

Could be an old altered ID. He could maybe pass for 10 years older when he was 18-19.

[@Zobrisdj01]

Its so crazy to hear the Million dollar man say he cant afford something lol

[@d-mo733]

I don’t care what ppl say, Dude was just trying to make a living and eat. Good for Him! God Bless Virgil

[@Monte91]

So defrauding people is ok as long as they are trying to make a living and eat? Maybe he wouldn't have struggled so bad trying to make a living and eat if he made better choices...