Everything GREAT About Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice!

Suicide Squad, right? Yeah, also you guys wanted this one pretty bad. Never has a movie been so maligned like Dawn of Justice. Well, maybe not never, but people have a real problem with Martha. This is why the critics are wrong, and the Martha haters are wrong. Here's everything right with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.
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[@InjusticeJosh]

FINALLY someone explained the Martha thing.

[@ManOfStamp38]

still garbage though

[@artemisfowl52]

More like 'underexplained.' Honestly, the only difference between the Martha scene and Stark's "No, he killed my parents' is that Disney spent more screen time blatantly spelling out Stark's psyche and spoon feeding viewers.

[@kathywong2264]

like you? racist communist. people like you are the reason why there is war.

[@InjusticeJosh]

+artemisfowl52 Huh?

[@marshalmaycry9063]

+artemisfowl52 your butthurt is showing.

[@kylecampbell565]

I've got the greatest movie idea ever Cinemasins V Cinemawins: Dawn of Judging

[@Dylan-lf1bo]

Lol nice name

[@thein3ation563]

+cinemasins

[@jasdeepsingh6831]

then lex would say . . negative vs positive, black vs white,wins vs sins...

[@Dylan-lf1bo]

Sarcasm Fever did u say black vs white? LOL

[@flyercurse]

only if there is actual figthing, if the sin or the win is better the one who scores that has to punch the other in their guts...

[@nick6134]

One of the most under-appreciated things is the CGI in this movie. It was so near perfect. As corridor crew says the best CGI is the one that doesn't get noticed.

[@abe10]

I smiled as soon as I read Corridor :)

[@AnshumanKumar007]

Like Doomsday was?

[@023Whiplash]

Doomsday looked like ass

[@thegrayyernaut]

Yeah Doomsday doesn't look the best but he's in like the 10% last bit of the movie. All the other CGIs were great. But that's how most people treat CGI artists. They only care about the bad bits. Like that last fight in Black Panther, despite the other good CGI bits in that movie.

[@justgamer4785]

@Elie Boutros They Will BC Cgi Is not Finished For Darkseid Thats Why He looks bad

[@starwarsprequelsandsequels7582]

Forget a win: -Superman: Is she with you? -Batman: I thought she's with you?!

[@PorschiaPaxton]

I agree, loved that part!

[@starwarsprequelsandsequels7582]

@@PorschiaPaxton :)

[@sumitadas4582]

Yeah that was one of the few dialogues in DCEU that didn't feel forced.

[@justcrapynames]

Didn’t felt forced? Did Bruce not went to Diana and tried to convince her to come to the fight like 2 or do scenes ago? Batman knew who she was and what was she doing there. She said no and then changed her mind. So Batman just forgot who she was or was the costume to good for Batman. I always thought it was a bad joke. Out of character for Batman. Superman asking seems legit though

[@iambuhlockay8007]

@@justcrapynames Nope. You either made that up or misremembered the movie because that never happened. Bruce only talks to Diana TWICE before that fight, and the first time is to get his flash drive from her. The second time is over email, and BOTH times he asked “Who are you?” to which he never got an answer.

[@farhannr28]

What everybody literally forgots: DCEU is not MCU

[@OhNoTheFace]

Yeah, one of those at least tries to stick to the source material

[@tavenmartin9536]

@@OhNoTheFace DCEU?

[@arizz620]

@@tavenmartin9536 Sarcasm?

[@tavenmartin9536]

@@arizz620 well they stick to source material too but ur gonna say MCU

[@Elite1Bouncer]

Right! MCU is actually good

[@FischerFilmStudio]

Anyone notice Diana role her eyes while Lex is talking about Zeus?

[@dvader1342]

Love it!

[@0lderSch00l]

I do love that there are so many characters in the DC films that are justifiably unimpressed by ideas and concepts that we, as a society, find fantastic or use as communication shorthand.

[@xyrots]

@@0lderSch00l It was that combined with the fact that he doesn't really know the full truth but he is acting like he does. Diana probably knows everything through stories told to her by her mother.

[@KnightOwl1881]

Haha he is her dad...so...

[@bromodragone8405]

Because Lex got the story wrong.

[@Redhood813]

“Weather he was dead for 5 years or 5 minutes” Batman vs Superman released 2016, Zack Snyder’s Justice League releases 2021 Five years, cinema wins called it

[@xyzynx3190]

But the time it takes place in is still 2017 and the original Justice League is still the canonical version.

[@edwardbo4666]

@@xyzynx3190 let's be honest, it won't be soon, with how much people liked it better

[@Kylehappy305]

@@xyzynx3190 bruh there was never a 2017 justice league movie

[@xyzynx3190]

@@Kylehappy305 not quite sure what you mean because there was

[@GalyTheSugarLover]

There was a justice league movie in 2017?

[@damiendesomber]

I like how everyone is appreciating this movie a whole lot more now.

[@itzsamic]

whos everyone? most people still dont like this movie and realize the inaccuracies

[@scarlightemperor3410]

I mean there are decent parts, but there are scenes that ruined the movie

[@EonStormcrow]

This keeps happening with Snyder's work, Sucker Punch comes to mind. There are still things about it I don't like, for instance, I get the Martha moment, still think it was not as "smart" as people make it out to be. But yeah, I appreciate this more now than when it first came out.

[@doctordoom1860]

@@itzsamic are you kidding me? This movie keeps aging like fine wine and most critics and fans like it (Ultimate Edition obviously)

[@itzsamic]

@@doctordoom1860 How is the movie "aging like fine wine"? its still as bad as it was 4 years ago. The characters are still just as inaccurate and poorly written. "most critics and fans like it" Source?

[@ananimeplace.3808]

You did this movie justice CinemaWins!

[@ananimeplace.3808]

Especially with that Martha situation.

[@ForgottenSon_]

pun-intended

[@alexbartha274]

You missed 140 wins for Snyder perfectly timing and syncing the terraforming scenes from both films. Everything is accurate to the second, and not a single detail is missed. For example, the crashing fighter jet that flies over the staff of the planet before hitting a wall? You see it impact in front of bruce and he has to swerve out of the way of it.

[@Ayoul]

That's not on Snyder. That's mostly all thanks to the hard work of VFX artists.

[@beach2550]

@@Ayoul they bring it to life but the director provides the vision

[@hello-gx6oi]

@@Ayoul and who dicided that Zack Snyder you genuis

[@anabob9991]

@@Ayoul Zach makes a storyboard He went to art school He can edit things himself too But he’s a director He’s pretty amazing

[@walterobrien8045]

I think the biggest theme of this movie is this: humanity is a choice. Batman in this version seems to have given up his humanity years ago, but Superman, despite not being a human in his DNA, is the most human of this movie’s big three.

[@Eris_Norregard]

Nicely put. It also provided a great character arc for Bruce - him realizing that Clark is much more human than him and accepting him as an ally while working on his own issues. I really liked how that was handled in JL.

[@ryancason7819]

And that when one loses their humanity, one can always find it again. Batman's arc in this film is a beautiful representation of that, with Superman serving as his inspiration.

[@lisamurphy7028]

To quote Christopher Reeve in Smallville "Humanity is not only about biology." This is best way non-Smallville fans to learn that.

[@DivvayKhatri]

This movie receives backlash because of two main reasons.. 1. Wb cutting out important plot points and scenes 2. Wrong marketing- this movie is incredibly story driven and a lot like watchmen but it's was marketed much like an mcu movie made out of small story and a lot of action. This movie is much like an episode from a comic. It's just incredible.

[@xarzithas]

I would add to that that the title was a huge mistake. The title "Batman V Superman" title implies that the movie will be just that Thus it implants in the viewer a certain type of movie experience. The title implies it will just be another protagnist vs antagonist. However what we got in BvS was so much more. The themes really did require a much more open and questioning mindset.

[@JackDManheim]

@@xarzithas The title also suggests a court trial is going to take place. Forgivable. But I'd say the biggest mistake was using a director who did not understand or like the titular characters.

[@TG-bd7yd]

@@JackDManheim you mind elaborating on how Snyde doesn't "understand" or "like" any of the characters in the movie?

[@muriloantonio3148]

Honestly they did it too soon, taking the animated movies as an example, we had 2 justice league movies and Superman also appeared on other movies, so when he died we had somewhat a greater connection with him(thats not the case for me because man of steel have a certain sentimental value , but for other people I wouldn't say the same). They also did doomsday too soon, the vilain could have been Lex on some kind of armor he made to be godlike and you could use the fight between batman and superman as a reason for they being beaten by Lex, a Superman weakened from kryptonite, and a batman who maybe got some broken bones and 1 or 2 gunshot wounds wich would be a reason for Wonder woman to join the fight, anything other than doomsday

[@mrendgame7949]

Every DC movie sucks except Aquaman and Wonder Woman. And before you call me a MArVeL FanBoY I've watched all the dc movies more than twice.

[@jackhealy3328]

CinemaWins is like a hot cup of honey-scented tea after a night of guzzling booze and picking fights. It just washes all of the cynicism, vitriol and bad taste out of your mouth so you can see things in a much more clearer and positive light.

[@standard03]

Well said.

[@cboehm24]

+

[@chickenpermissiontheshaved75]

agreed

[@funkycrunkis3763]

+

[@josephsorce2543]

yeah, true, ... but Killing feels better !

[@tonybmw5785]

I thought the cinema release was a disappointment, but after watching the extended version I came to the conclusion that Snyder made a brilliant film.

[@kylemajerczyk8160]

Tony BMW Same! It’s one of my favorite movies and I say it’s a masterpiece. I just wish what we got (Justice League) lived up to what was set up in this movie, but that doesn’t matter.

[@djstuntfox]

YES!! Its one of my favorite top movies. I had a friend finally watch it. Granted, he watched the Ultimate Edition, HE LOVED IT!!! He couldn't believe he never watched it.

[@pablomaybe6111]

@@djstuntfox the movie is aging BRILLIANTLY. I watched it yesterday (UE) and god the movie is GREAT. Better than so many other superheroe movies.

[@djstuntfox]

@@pablomaybe6111 I think so many people are just used to the Marvel formula, which works for them, but DC has ALWAYS been on the darker side. I appreciate that Man of Steel and BvS was so gritty. Even WW is about war and what takes to be on a hero's journey. Brilliant stuff!

[@zacksnyder967]

@@djstuntfox i'm glad you guys liked it

[@pyromaniac2104]

Can we all just appreciate the Batmobile chase scene shows how 20 years of Batman being around has made criminals ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED of him, the bad guys in that scene use military grade weapons and none of them even SCRATCH the batmobile which would put out the message "to criminals Batman is scary" well enough on it's own but then you remember these are Gotham criminals which means that Batman has made criminal so scared that they now actively shell out for military grade hardware and as I recall A ROCKET LAUNCHER!! To me the Batmobile chase is one of the best examples of show don't tell I've ever seen

[@0lderSch00l]

I do love the final evolution of batman, he's gone from idealistic to driven and now obsessed. He's older, so, like most of us do as time goes on, he cut the BS. He's not as fast as he used to be, but he's strong and cunning and he makes that work for him. In this film he's stripped down to the core of what he is, which is a dangerous, mission oriented, serial assailant.

[@ahsanashfaq4430]

Other then him breaking his rule,I like everything about this movie

[@HUMAN-fq5ff]

@@ahsanashfaq4430 but his whole arc was him realising that breaking his rule was wrong. His arc is of redemption.

[@alejandrolarrea9153]

@@HUMAN-fq5ff like Zuko, one of if not the best redemption arc ever made

[@dylanburton4955]

@@HUMAN-fq5ff I'm all for a more brutal Batman but it doesn't completely add up in universe. If he's killing thugs then why doesn't he kill villains like the Joker?

[@meadmaker4525]

WB: Let's hire Zach Snyder to do an epic job with BvS. Also WB: We're still gonna screw with the movie in post and ruin it. The director obviously doesn't know what he's doing and we have to fix it, because...you know, it's our money, so we get to ruin all the things.

[@trueblue6201]

What are you smoking? WB's producers when they viewed the film gave it a standing ovation. At the end of the day this is Zack Snyder's vision. The ultimate editions does add more stuff to it but this is stuff Snyder made the decision to cut out. Both versions are his vision. If you want to complain about altering his vision look at Justice League that became a Joss Whedon popcorn film without any of the pathos Snyder uses.

[@musicis1]

@Ryan Irwin- Diehl Who shot YOUR dog?!

[@zacksnyder967]

@Ryan Irwin- Diehl wow, just wow

[@lzylay]

Why does WB have to ruin everything

[@detomnz2024]

@@lzylay they like money, like Mr. Greedy Mouse did to the Star Wars franchise

[@hughchester]

I'm glad I found this channel. I needed a little less negativity in my life.

[@blacktee31]

Precisely how I felt about Suicide Squad.

[@scottreacher]

Hugh Chester I enjoy him way more than that pretentious trash Cinnamon Sins. Far too much "hate bandwagon" nonsese that's been a trend lately.

[@ufg1510]

@@scottreacher is not just humour?

[@serenity0n0]

@@ufg1510 Using negative to get some laugh ok bruh how edgy

[@ufg1510]

@@serenity0n0 is edgy talking trash about a movie? is like ofensive or something?

[@Anduril74871]

Thank you for understanding the point of the Martha scene!!! It seemed like I was the only one to get it.

[@zacharygrall7070]

I know right? It's like people turned their brains off. This movie isn't straightforward like Marvel. It uses artistry to paint a story

[@SonicProdigy55]

Wow! I never thought of it like that! Thank you SOOO Much for opening my eyes to the whole Martha thing!

[@Ampwich]

I never even had an issue with it. I didn't even know it was an "issue" until I started seeing the reviews and haters online lol.

[@MisterNive]

+DaGerminator Yeah humans are far too easily influenced by others. That's why I avoid reading reviews until after I watch something.

[@brumtownmiller6130]

+Mr Nive like the WORLDS GREATEST detextive couldnt figure out that superman is a hero aftwr saving the world and repeated clips of supes saving lives! Yet realising that superman has parents makes bats realise supes is good? Wtf? All criminals have mothers? Infact bats dont give a crap about bad guys loving there moms!? Even lois figures out supes is a good guy and shes just a journo! Lex figured it out too but THE WORLDS GREATEST DETECTIVE had to attempt murder to see superman was a good in him? No thanx, cinema sins did this better!

[@daFAQ_bru]

In an interview Zach Snyder confirmed that the real Doomsday is out there so we get to see the real monster

[@Metalora]

Really? Where?

[@daFAQ_bru]

@@Metalora kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5Paqp6nYsiKjKc

[@dylanburton4955]

They should have saved the death of superman for the real doomsday rather than putting it in this film

[@thenoirknight5729]

I do hope to see that beast one day. I was sadly mislead that Doomsday would fight Uxas in the history lesson for ZSJL...

[@excaliburknives3572]

@@thenoirknight5729 That…..is a freaking awesome concept. I love the Snyder cut but that so should have been in that.

[@Breidablik06]

Holy shit. The Martha scene actually makes sense now

[@arcticangel1628]

9:34 THANK YOU! FINALLY! Someone cleared it up!

[@enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337]

It's always made sense. For me at least.

[@adriandelatorreebro9555]

Always did lol

[@tiffprendergast]

Martha!!!!

[@rosiewright5684]

@@enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337 same! Before I even realized that the mothers jad the same name. I recognized bruce saw his humanity

[@bobbyp3212]

I feel so bad for Zack Snyder. WB in their greed have hacked his vision on two occasions. Every scene feels like a painting and the score is incredible. I love that he takes risks and that the characters are grounded. Sad to see him leave the DCEU, i will really miss his style.

[@DynestiGTI]

Well, if the DCEU and WB get their shit together and they ever eventually lead up to a Darkseid movie, they know who to call to direct.

[@kylereese1042]

True.

[@thewitcherking937]

@@ethanjones1327 he is able to tell a coherent narrative.

[@misfitdanzig8152]

Hahaha you just explain Disney 😂.

[@misfitdanzig8152]

@@DynestiGTI what more of that mouse trap money eh.

[@Skabanis]

I might of been one of the last people to see this but I loved the film! Fuck the haters!

[@Skabanis]

You got my sub!

[@nickkchamb]

You just subbed yourself? Dope!

[@itsbeedle7357]

Yeah this movie rocks

[@krimes_]

"Well hows that supposed to make me feel?"

[@weaponizedlizardmen360]

your opinion is wrong...kappa

[@nickfitchner3218]

The doomsday fight was one hundred percent necessary. The threat he posed was the exact situation batman was afraid of. The irony is not only was superman not the threat, but he sacrificed himself to stop that threat. Absolutely agree with you otherwise I just had to point that out.

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

Something you missed that I felt should count is Bruce's reaction when Alfred talks about "...makes a man cruel"... Was obviously an admonishment of Bruce's descent into what I'd call madness and Affleck's reaction really sold their relationship to me more than some pithy comment or whatever. Their interactions overall are some of my favourite parts of this movie.

[@nikhiljoseph3672]

Totally agree with you. Another scene was when Bruce Wayne unlocks the photo of wonder woman from world war2. As he looks at that picture, there is no dialogue in the scene, but he leans back in his chair (with WW bgm playing in the background) and you can see it on Afflecks face. In that scene you can see Bruce's whole perception of reality or the world he lives in is changing, he was just coming to terms with supes(alien) inhabiting our world and then he sees the wonder woman pic. I thought that was another masterful scene by Zack and Affleck, no dialogues no spoon feeding but just pure acting to convey the story.

[@SyberianVG]

"I must be cruel only to be kind". Hamlet.

[@ahsanashfaq4430]

Yeah and the Martha scene pulls him back in I thought that was great

[@zeanne1185]

What about the moment when Lex is talking about Prometheus anf Zeus, and Diana has that annoyed face. Lol. She was Zeus's daughter after all.

[@Indoor_Carrot]

I never noticed that. Haha, that's brilliant :)

[@musicis1]

Zeanne SJ Holy shit

[@doctordoom1860]

Yup lmao

[@bdr113080]

I really didn't think watching the ultimate edition would change much but I was wrong. I haven't watched the theater version since. The directors cut is an awesome movie and WB needs to learn to just let the directors do their job.

[@KingOfKingz819]

I enjoyed what I saw in the theater even though it left a rather bad taste in my mouth. Then I saw the UE. Never saw the theatrical version ever again.

[@teamvlcn6820]

Brian Rose WB just needs an actual editing department. The Ultimate Edition was awesome, but I did see a lot that could've been taken out.

[@jadonsmith3224]

Brian Rose same for the most part. after some thought, I think the theatrical is good, but has less hand-holding for the audience

[@HamzaAnsari1425]

The thing with Zack Snyder's movies is that his extended versions are always miles better than the theatrical version. Have you seen the director's cut of Watchmen? It's nearly 4 hours long. No joke! :)

[@HamzaAnsari1425]

Aha - thanks for clearing that up! :)

[@eternalblessing4984]

As time goes on, you learn to appreciate this film. Zack Snyder makes some of the most underrated superhero films.

[@karangupta1825]

Some of the most underrated and misunderstood directors.

[@triplemoyagames4195]

All the movie needed was the proper build up. If there were 3-4 movies before it. Setting up Injustice would have been amazing

[@deonambrose]

I enjoyed Zack Snyder's DC films. I get that not everyone likes it because they believe it's not comic book accurate or lacks humor and comedy. But I still enjoyed them.

[@mullaoslo]

The batmobile just pinging of superman like a toy car will never get old for me 😂

[@mullaoslo]

@@triplemoyagames4195 i get why Many feel this way especially since we just saw marvel do it but my point has always been DC usually starts a new run by introducing the justice league and then going deeper into the individual heroes

[@westmcgee9320]

Does anyone else return here once in s while to rewatch and recharge? So underrated.

[@chancylvania]

“I hope the studio learns from this next time and just released the final cut.” Haha haha

[@samuelthrift7282]

"That one didn't age quite so well" -Jontron

[@davidsolomie162]

I'd give you a million likes if I could. Great video with great in-depth explanations. Still can't believe how people didn't understand the movie. First time I saw the movie I understood everything. Literally. To me the motivations were clear, the plot was clear, I even understood why this Batman was more violent. In all honesty, I think this movie is Zack Snyder's magnum opus. Man of Steel was excellent, in my opinion, but this one was at least twice as good.

[@jbgaters]

Apparently it has to do with how open minded you go into viewing it. Personally, it gets better every time I watch it

[@davidsolomie162]

jbgaters Amen to that, friend.

[@joshuabarron3596]

I agree with you completely. I love this movie so damn much. It just sucks that not many see as the masterpiece we do.

[@jbgaters]

+Hard to Kidnap agreed to a certain extent. If you missed the Martha piece, once again, it does have to deal with intelligence but more so watching the film with an open mind. It is not enough to write off certain scenes because they "didn't make sense" and more often than not the comments and critics against that particular arc speak to the fact the majority of those that left those types of comments and reviews simply did not understand the scene and why it was placed where it was. This film has flaws, yes, but if we as moviegoers were to watch every movie for said flaws and are NOT critics that are getting paid for their opinion(s), then every movie would suck.

[@aoifeanonymous]

I still have mixed feelings about this. I like it from a thematic standpoint, and the cinematography is pretty fantastic. But as a Superman fan? This film kills me.

[@martianmilktvofficial]

I’m gutted that they completely changed the dceu because of the backlash to this movie. If the studio just went with the original vision, both suicide squad and justice league would have been a lot different, maybe better.

[@CMGThePerson]

Suicide Squad came out the same year as BVS

[@thesimpledude186]

@@CMGThePerson months later

[@kartikadewi3270]

If you watch all lex luthor scenes, this luthor is still young before getting older and more serious and cold

[@zhengyingli]

Yep. We see a more stable Lex at the end of Justice League. Actual character development.

[@thelasso9478]

13:14 The fact that people got angry at that Steppenwolfe moment was weird. They had hinted at darkseid with the omega symbol and parademons since the trailers. Instead of people saying the DCCU was just copying the MCU by showing the head honcho of the whole series, they showed one of his most well known generals. How would Steppenwolfe be a problem? them showing steppenwolfe was awesome. Them having steppenwolfe look more demonic than his humanoid comic counterpart is even more awesome.

[@crimsonvampyre602]

he's wearing a helmet. him if he does look demonic then it's stupid because he's not a demon

[@thelasso9478]

John Harmon Doomsday isn't a cave troll but that's what they made him looks like. Look closely at the steppenwolfe scene, those horns are attached to his head That isn't a helmet. He looks more like the kursed dark elf black guy in thor the dark world than he looks like a guy with a helmet. Also being demonic doesn't make him a demon just like being humanoid doesn't make him human or dragonic makes him a dragon. He may look it but it doesn't mean he is.

[@Dawn_Of_Justice]

+John Harmon He's from Apokolips. Home of darkseid a Anti-God. Hes going to look demonic

[@pirateman1144]

+Crimson Head98 New god**

[@CichlidAsh]

What you are not taking into account is most people will have very limited exposure to DC outside the movies, how are people meant to know who the hell Steppenwolfe and Darkseid are? The whole dream/Flash sequence is not explained at all. Flash does not even exist in the DCEU at this point in the movie and the only sequence in which Flash appears later is him in a different set of clothing. Even with a vague knowledge of DC I still did not know that Flash could travel through time. Those demon things are also very confusing for a lot of people simply because they appear in what is a very weird dream sequence. How is the general public meant to know what Darkseid symbol is or what a Parademon is? This would of course not have been an issue if it was a movie aimed at the niche market of just DC fans but when you aim for the general pubic you need to put some sort of explanation in, else you just end up with an audience and critics which is totally confused and will give bad reviews and spread bad word of mouth.

[@SpaceCase132]

Seriously, why can't there be more people like you in the world? You show great levels of optimism in your videos, while also giving reviews at the end that feel FAR more professional and authentic than what a good number of "professional" critics. SPREAD THE WORD OF CINEMAWINS AND HIS RIGHTEOUS TRUTHS!!!

[@ednajay5724]

"Everyone running away while Bruce Wayne runs INTO THE UNKNOWN"... Elsa: "Some look for trouble, others don't"

[@mauriceschannel1945]

11:39 When doomsday looked at the Superman statue like that I was amazed. Even though he is an absolute monster designed only to kill. You can still see the anger Zod holds for Superman in doomsday. Fantastic.

[@christhegendersloth2901]

can i point out the warehouse scene is honestly the best action scene I've seen in a while

[@KabbalahSherry]

Chris Polak - YASSSS 😎🥋🥊

[@LuxBellator92]

That was excellent. True comic-book style Batman sequence. Not like the clunky, slow fisticuffs of the Dark Knight trilogy.

[@orangenoob2768]

Someone didn't watch Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

[@dhaha7]

Darkchainzz I see your point, especially the part about the shaky cam, but, imho, I still think that the highway fight scene between Cap and Bucky was one of the best cherographed action sequences to come from a superhero movie.

[@tintzaw9915]

Bryan Koh Why Marveltards are in every DC videos and trying to be smart ?

[@nunovaladascardoso5581]

thank you for not being blind! this movie was great!

[@Comicf_Breaks]

Its ahead of its time. BvS will go down like scarface trashed by critics but become beloved as time goes on

[@redqueen6802]

I totally agree with that.

[@noah4303]

+Red Queen same

[@mrgoblin2077]

lmao ... yall joking right ? RIGHT ???

[@dg7815]

+MrGoblin20 lololol if I laugh in my own comments, you have to be wrong. That's how the Internet works right?

[@iankelsall25]

"Tell me, do you bleed...? YOU WILL...! arguably the best batman line ever, especially with the modulated voice.

[@shl6367]

The Martha part was never that bad. I was really moved when first time seeing this. People are making a meme out of this just because they need to make a meme out of this.

[@DivvayKhatri]

And the pathetic part is this shit meme is something people still think is funny.... Bunch of kids....

[@DivvayKhatri]

@@nkb5245 and no one takes that seriously or anything. They just think of it as a joke just like everything else in the mcu. And if someone shows up arguing about it then they're like "atleast it wasn't rushed". Like, wtf. A whole origin story is devoted to that one part for allowing people to understand it.

[@qqqfuzion2582]

@@nkb5245 yeah basically lol.

[@majagi8579]

¨people hate what they don´t understand¨

[@therunn3197]

Ryan Irwin- Diehl Not the ultimate edition

[@erlendtveitnes4578]

What really sucks is that all the negative critics of this movie is probably what made the studio feel forced to take more executive actions on justice league, which ended up butchering the entire thing.. :\ I personally really liked the older Bruce portrayed by Affleck, more tainted and dark, as well as the BvS all over.

[@misfitdanzig8152]

Well that's easy Disney paid off the critics too put down a great epic first superheros, before marvel bullshit characters call civil war than Dawn of Justice

[@moist_captain]

Damn I really wanted to see Snyder's original vision. He explained that Flash appearing to Bruce in his cave was a badly timed time jump from the future. Knightmare vision is actually the distant future where Lois has been killed by Darkseid which causes Superman to give into the anti-life equation. So Cyborg, Flash and Bruce tried to send Flash back in time to warn Bruce that Lois is they key and this time they had to send Flash to the batcave right before Darkseid boomtubes in there to kill Lois.

[@Emeowy]

@@moist_captain i 50/50d that lool

[@EclipseHedgehog]

y'know, a 5 movie saga doesn't sound that bad at all. I don't need 20+ movies to enjoy one extra special movie they've been building up to. Like did we need 4 solo movies for the A-team or 12+ for the expendables? I remember when i was trying to marathon lord of the rings for the second time i felt exhausted by the time i was halfway done with return of the king. I can't imagine doing the mcu much less have the patience to even try. Movie's are not tv episodes and probably shouldn't be treated as such because thats a very risky as fuck move and expensive as balls. look at the failed monsters universe, Ghost busters, and Sony's amazing spider verse. at least Snyder got all the way to justice league despite that being a Frankenstein of a movie. If his daughter didn't commit suicide (God rest her soul) he probably would have stayed and fought back harder against those WB execs. Now that WB's got a new CEO hopefully they'll listen to the fans. and if they don't, i won't be surprised if Zack would be done with them because they've screwed with his vision since Watchmen.

[@hahahahhaahhaha1201]

erlend halvorsen i likes justice league but then again I watch movies for fun and not to critique them

[@adrianslayer33]

What about the moment "I promise you, Martha won't die tonight". Awesome!!!!

[@jaydinshuya3495]

Or "You're not brave, men are brave" so sick!

[@bobbylyht4123]

Adrián Ponce I felt was Bruce way of redemption of saving his own mom

[@user-ux1ll3tw9l]

@@jaydinshuya3495 men are brave if they have kryptonite on there hands and wearing an armoured bat suit

[@doctordoom1860]

@@user-ux1ll3tw9l or when they face things they can't defeat easily by using heat vision or flying as fast as sound

[@wilfordwarhammer8872]

@@user-ux1ll3tw9l oh shut the fuck up and quit reaching. He was going up against the most powerful man in the world and you expected Batman to fight him with his bare hands?!?!? Of course he needed to be prepared and armed with kryptonite. That's called being smart and not a moron. And even then Batman knew it was suicide going up against Superman and he STILL went through with it. That IS brave.

[@subscriberaccount7751]

Ultimate Edition is 20x better then the original.

[@jammygamer8961]

i disagree. the original movie is good (and very good in certain areas) and didn't deserve the shitting on it got. The ultimate edition is great movie and one of the best superhero films

[@tiffprendergast]

Yup

[@artofvale_1122]

@@jammygamer8961 well, in the theater edition there's a huge mistake, when at the beginning Lex's soldiers kill all of those African soldiers(?) with bullets, then Superman arrives and saves Lois. Later, they say it's Supes fault as he presumably killed those African soldiers, but how come? Superman doesn't shoot bullets. While in the ultimate edition Lex's soldiers burn those African soldiers corpses, and now you can incriminate Superman for using heat vision, and kill them.

[@jammygamer8961]

@@artofvale_1122 good point

[@SunriseGamer123]

He said “Not Lana” and that totally shook me! Damn Smallville Days 💯

[@JAStudiosDankestManLiv]

Thank you for explaining the Martha scene, I didn't get it at first.

[@greyknight9638]

A lot of people didn't because of the typical rage that comes from a first glance. I got it the first go around, just as I also got a lot of things that people were complaining about. And ftr, don't take that the wrong way, I get that sometimes we don't get things at first and I'm no exception, but a lot of people take it WAY too far.

[@n.d.m.515]

I understood it like Batman would have, because I didn't realize both their mothers were named Martha. Of course it would throw Batman for a loop. Completely agree that it made him even more angry at first because he thought Supes was messing with him, and then realized his revenge was misguided and out of character for his ideals.

[@greyknight9638]

Exactly. And yeah, I noticed a while back that their mothers had the same name and I've always wondered if DC ever planned on doing something with that lol.

[@JAStudiosDankestManLiv]

Jason McCloud I might have to re-watch BVS with a different mindset now. It may haven't been that bad. Still a bit bundled up messly but still.

[@n.d.m.515]

As a non-comic book reader, I see no difference between BvS and the Avengers movies in quality and messy story telling. In fact, the Avengers is so full of meaningless action with a thin plot that I get bored. Why the DC movies are so hated while the comic book level Marvel is not seems to me ridiculous.

[@yudela1]

I remember when this video first came out and there were so many people taking offense to what he gave a win to in this movie. DC fanboys who get mad when critics don't like their movies are annoying. But people like the original commentors who took offense to someone enjoying Batman v Superman are even worse. And guess what was the big issue they had. "Oh no! How can you like this movie when I think Civil War was better?" Lucklily now the comments have softened up a bit and become more people with logic who either agreed or simply disagreed. But before, this comment section was pure cancer. If you're wondering why I say this, it's because I'm on my third time watching this video.

[@CinemaWins]

Ha! So you're the guy racking up the view counter! Yeah, as the views slowed, so did the pure hatred. Lesson learned though. It was never really my intention to rile so many people up. I made the video for the fans not realizing the number of people who already had their minds made up would watch it and be super duper, duper insulted. Hopefully I can assuage the disdain when I get around to Suicide Squad. But probably not... You wouldn't believe how many death threats I got that were auto-spammed. Some people really don't like the women...in my....family...for some reason....? Really odd. Oh well. Glad you like it!

[@yudela1]

CinemaWins In my opinion, while Suicide Squad had interesting characters (mostly) and cool visuals, it had terrible editing (apparently staple of Warner Brothers' theatrical releases now) and a poor script that was the product of David Ayer being rushed by Warner Brothers. Despite this, I really am excited to see how you win Suicide Squad! Keep up the great work. And tell Jim to stop messing with your script!

[@mbriancohen]

"Oh no! How can you like this movie when I think Civil War was better?" Who ever said that? You're making strawman arguments. People disliked this movie because they disliked the movie. And being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian is just as un-thinking as following others for its own sake.

[@yudela1]

+CHP A lot of the earlier comments in this video were people saying exactly that (give or take a few strong words and unnecessary overuse of capital letters). I can understand why people may dislike the film, but yeah there were people legitimately taking offense to this video and using Civil War as why this video is wrong. We understand you don't like it, but you don't have to take offense to a video stating what the film did right.

[@mbriancohen]

James Lewis Fair enough. I really didn't like the film and found the characterization completely wrong. I also found this vid to be slightly half-baked, having nothing to do with Civil War. I guess, I took greater offense to your comment than I should've. Apologies.

[@kaceyjohnson4440]

This movies Lex Luthor gets a lot of hate, but people need to understand that their ARE different versions of him, BvS's Lex Luthor is literally pulled right out of Superman: Birthright form the clear mental issues to the long red hair.

[@elishawilson5342]

People forget that he's lex Luthor Jr it's obvious as you notice he wouldn't shut up about his dad

[@mullaoslo]

Also if they went with the standard lex it would just get shit for being to close to Kevin spaceys version

[@jukeboxjammer2343]

You are probably the only person who accurately describes parts of movies that either confuse people or things people get just wrong. In this case, I'm referring to "Martha" but you also did it with the "plot holes" from A Quiet Place, Thanos snapping half of life away rather than doubling resources, and why Peter lost his powers in Spiderman 2. There are several things in movies that people like MatPat will spend a whole video trying to figure out that you are able to answer in less than 2 minutes. You sir, are VERY good at your job!

[@iamatn3317]

Batman was portrayed exactly how I always wanted him to be.... dark, brooding and flat out scary. This Batman did what rogue one did for Darth Vader.... it made me actually fear him if he were to actually exist. Zack did great could not care less how the haters feel. This movie was awesome.

[@user-dk7mz1py7l]

Use it was

[@filimongalogavros5301]

Screw the Haters .

[@alwaysxnever]

FACTS!!!

[@tannerlawley8435]

IamATN You like Batman killing people and being a dumbass? Yeah no.

[@gsv740]

@@tannerlawley8435 Batman killing will always be better than hypocritical comic book batman

[@nektarianikolaou9595]

9:42-10:56,dude,you FUCKING nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jbgaters]

Precisely and well-fucking-said

[@d11asian]

Its not that we didnt get it... Its just really stupid

[@shinobitoby]

+d1asian How the facts are still in your face and you hate poor you

[@d11asian]

+Young Sinatra Tonez ...sorry for saying something stupid is stupid?

[@shinobitoby]

d1asian okay you can hate the movie I can care less your judgment on a films doesn't effect me I like the DCEU you dont.

[@classck1124]

I’m so glad he explained that it wasn’t about the names being identical. Because I surely was one of the people who thought that that was the reason he ceased from killing Superman. Now that I know the actuality of it, it is kinda heart warming. 💯😌

[@user-ux1ll3tw9l]

yes, but what could've happened if they have different names? would batman let superman live?

[@averagedoomenjoyer1232]

@@user-ux1ll3tw9l No, he would ask who that woman is after hearing the "You are letting them kill X"

[@clickycrust]

@@user-ux1ll3tw9l It's also because of the fact that he pleaded for someone elses life instead of his own in that moment. He didn't expected that from an alien.

[@SpudIllusionPictures]

"I really hope the studio learns from this next time and just releases the original cut. ...Or ignore us and keep doing what you're doing. It's not like this is the third time his vision for the movie has been the better version." Oh boy. Hearing these words now. #ReleaseTheSnyderCut just got trending with over 700k tweets at #1 worldwide on Twitter with the cast, crew, and Zack himself joining in with the voice of the movement that also includes lots of industry professionals who weren't involved with the making of Zack's next movie... does WB not watch these videos? Damn.

[@siddharthverma8975]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJW9c5ysoNyYipo

[@tclturbo2456]

AND WE ARE GETTING THE SNYDER CUT

[@saadelidrissi8330]

Suck it , Whecock !

[@L3GiTxGH0STx]

@@tclturbo2456 We got it and it's fucking incredible

[@night-seeker666]

@@L3GiTxGH0STx *Men are still good.*

[@gradeequality4099]

"People hate what they can't understand" Basically the martha scene.

[@filimongalogavros5301]

People hate what they can not understand .

[@DarkOps4]

Filimon Galogavros Or maybe people are justified from this shit excuse of a film

[@filimongalogavros5301]

@Snapyrock Batman sees the human side of Clark Kent / Superman and changes his mind .

[@filimongalogavros5301]

@Snapyrock Batman sees the human side of Superman .

[@rezkydonnyputranto4232]

Lets just agree...that Superman could've told Batman that "My Mother is kidnapped".....That fight makes zero sense

[@Drscott18]

This is by far the best representation of how BVS was meant to be. If WB hadn't succumbed to trying to be like the MCU there is no telling how JL would have turned out.

[@SgtKaneGunlock]

you mean movies that are dear i say it.... are good?

[@zacksnyder967]

@@SgtKaneGunlock right, did you watch this video?

[@jeremyduru2683]

People Hate What they Don't Understand

[@starwarsprequelsandsequels7582]

because they don't want to understand

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

9:37 personally the only thing the "Martha" scene needed was a P.O.V shot of Bruce briefly seeing himself as the robber who killed his parents (seeing hismelf holding a gun instead of the spear), after Superman pleads him to save his mom, Martha. Sure it is one hell of a coincidence, but is the coincidence that was loud and in-your face enough to get into the head of the rage-fueled Batman at this point.

[@MohamedIbrahim-lt9ys]

brilliant, bravo!!

[@lisamurphy7028]

Can I steal this comment? Batman realized he was the one holding the gun, at essentially a helpless son. Bruce needed something to slap him in the face HARD to snap him out of this...a Flashback to Joe Chill or whoever killed his parents in this continuity...qualifies.

[@vijaysankar1247]

the ultimate edition is amazing 9-10:)

[@rcbmmines4579]

Agreed.

[@operativewinters3458]

The ultimate edition made an unfocus mess (but still a rather great film) into a great film.

[@DC-rr1xu]

What's the difference between the ultimate edition and the normal movie ?

[@Sereomontis]

The ultimate edition explains a lot of the plot points that were left out in the theatrical cut. There's also more character development.

[@Folder]

the normal version was cut for time and was a jumbled mess which left people confused. Ultimate edition only had 30 min of extra film, but my god, it made the mess clean, the flow was amazing, and everything story wise became much more clear.

[@commandermendez57]

i can't believe i am saying this but i love the martha scene now

[@michaelbuckelew]

Snyder and Terrio need to do a video explaining that from their POV to everyone. At first I thought, "Oh yeah. Their moms do have the same name." Then I watched a video or two that had people explain their take and I've understood it more. Maybe a couple of lines could've been added showing Batman realizing his humanity. But I'm fine with it.

[@rustyshafthammer]

Yeah but its all there on the screen. explaining everything the audience is terrible. frankly its not that hard to get.

[@gavinod6678]

+Duane Drew Didn't explain anything, terrible movie and scene.

[@dylang2255]

Martha scene still sucks ass. No excuses.

[@manuela4618]

IKR! I totally didn't get it before.

[@harleycourage55]

“we’re criminals, we’ve always been criminals” -bruce wayne. taken directly from the dark knight returns comic where so much of this movie gets its inspiration from, awesome

[@relykremark6129]

It’s incredible how a video can change someone’s perspective on something that a lot of people generally look down upon. I was one of the few people who saw BvS as a masterpiece. The whole Martha scene clicked for me after watching the Ultimate Cut for the first time. I always try to talk to people about this film and try to change their opinions, but it never works. Next time I’m trying to convince someone that this movie is actually amazing, I’ll send them the link to this video. Another interesting point that I discovered for the Martha scene, Batman spent his entire life trying to prevent that happened to him, from happening to other people. That’s why he always adopted the children that lost their parents. To give them something he didn’t have. I loved how you phrased it tho, in the moment he was about to kill Clark, he looked into a mirror ( metaphorically ) and saw Joe Chill looking back. It’s really unfortunate what happened to JL and Zack Snyder. #releasethesnydercut

[@Vietnam_Chr0nicles]

I thought BvS was a masterpiece as well. I cant stand how people hate it yet praise Disney's crap

[@JackDManheim]

@@Vietnam_Chr0nicles The MANY flaws of BvS have absolutely nothing to do with anything Disney. There's nothing wrong with having guilty pleasures, so long as you don't confuse them with "masterpieces".

[@rsmith8113]

Same man, I always tell my Marvel fan friends as DC fan that DCEU is not dead, and the films are fine beside Justice League and I get the usual “Oh BvS is shit” no it’s not but then I stop arguing.

[@jaakkoparikka6060]

Suicide squad is not fine, its a total mess

[@relykremark6129]

Jaakko Parikka I agree. SS was pretty thrown together, but WB messed with Ayer’s original plan just like they did Zack Snyder. Ayer’s cut of the film was apparently too dark for WB, so they changed it completely. I’ve read up on some things recently, things confirmed by Ayer. And the movie sounds awesome! Like Joker convinced a man to kill himself and that he was also the main antagonist of the film. The weird puddy monster things we’re supposed to be Parademons.... Anyways, SS was pretty messy, I’m hoping that WB and AT&T do the Ayer cut along with the Snyder cut.

[@sir_stride]

I NEVER CLICKED ON A VIDEO SO FAST BEFORE

[@vn_dantas]

Same! 😂

[@oculus9561]

same

[@oculus9561]

same

[@AlreadiWon]

Lol. I did stop what I was doing and immediately clicked on this as soon as I saw it. I had to see what could be positively said about this one. 1st movie ever I went to theaters to see and walked out actually kind of wanting my money back lol smh

[@cjhudgins36]

RIGHT!!!

[@adamoneal2632]

Also for the Martha scene, "Martha" was his dad's last word

[@adamoneal2632]

Along with his mothers name of course, as you said

[@yarpen26]

Which pretty much throws the entire "OMG he was just saying Martha so as to make Batman know his mother was human and the fact that their mothers both had the same name was just a coincidence with no real bearing on Batman's ultimate decision to spare Superman" argument out the window.

[@blacktee31]

I think everyone gets that. I respect the effort as a call back, but not the execution. That's not the argument. The argument it doesn't make any sense for Superman while he's about to die to say "You're letting him kill Martha" and not "My mother" What would make him think he'd care about a random woman from an entirely different city named "Martha" when he's pretty much about to be murdered in cold blood because Bruce came off the entire movie as a sociopathic douche? Please excuse me, I came here to compliment the movie, but that needs to be done with realistic respect for its flaws as well as it's strengths. If he said "My mother, Martha." It would serve both, not only Bruce being pulled into the realization that Clark is "human" with a famliy and all, but that the two of them aren't so different. Having him blurt it out that way came off as forced to many viewers that's all. I still commend the *effort* though, just not the execution. I apologize if I come off disrespectful I didn't come here like I know some people do to hate and throw salt at a potentially good or even great film. Fun Fact: Martha is my own great grandmother's name.

[@rafaelaguirre8091]

I have thought about it myself and came up with a possibility a while back. We have to remember that while Batman did not know of Superman's secret identity, Superman did know of Batman's by the time of their fight and must have already become familiar with his background. Earlier in their fight, Batman did recognize that Superman must have had parents ( remember when he told Superman 'I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason') but he probably just thought of them as alien too or that he probably didn't thought of them as highly as Batman valued his own family; so Superman just mentioning his mother by 'mother' would not have done nothing to break Batman out of his kill rage. By using Batman's mother's own name, however, Clark knew that it would force Bruce to listen to him even for a minute, which sort of worked as it planted doubt in Bruce just long enough for Lois to come in and clarify who the Martha Clark was referring to was. I think that Clark saying Martha WAS the best way to get Batman to listen to him as , by that moment, Batman was to focused in killing Superman to listen to reason. He was fully driven by emotion, so the only way to break him out of it was bringing another emotion to the table. And what better emotion than his own family? Of course, Superman had no way of knowing that 'Martha' was also the last word uttered by Thomas Wayne and had the unexpected consequence of enraging Batman further but this also played out in Batman's own change of heart ultimately. Batman earlier acknowledged that Superman was not a direct threat to the world to Alfred, but carried on because of the 'even 1% chance' he would be. By uttering 'Martha' right before being killed, Superman became Thomas Wayne in Bruce's mind: a man who had done no real evil and whose life was extinguished by a criminal. Batman called himself a criminal earlier and realized that he had become the 'man with the gun' and could no longer justify himself in what he was doing, specially when, throughout the movie, it was obvious that the main reason he wanted to kill superman was to make his life as Batman (born out of the death of his parents) mean something. That was a lengthy explanation lol but I think that was what the scene was trying to convey. This is how it all clicked in my head anyways.

[@drbroberts]

Rafael Aguirre I usually don't reply to KZbin comments, but that is a stellar analysis!

[@vinayvinay2561]

"Martha won't die tonight ". I don't know why but this dialogue made me emotional

[@lisamurphy7028]

I had a hard time figuring that out too. It sounded hammy and awkward. Last time I saw this video I realized that's what Superman asked him to do with potentially his dying breath. He was promising to do for his friend what his almost-victim had asked of him?

[@kirbyppg]

I wish you went over the theme of the film, the main philosophy. Power has bias, god is tribal, god picks sides. Lex was mad that god is willing to save Lois Lane but not Lex, which perfectly reflects Superman's dilemma of not being able to save everyone. This is the consequence of Superman not being able to save everyone, and it's not even his fault which makes you sympathize with him even more. And it's not like he can talk to anyone about it. Everything, from the civil to doomsday was Lex seeking revenge. He wanted to humiliate Superman and make people hate him, he wanted to kill god. And I wish you brought up how the woman at the police station told Superman "A pen doesn't work against a man like [Batman]. You what does? A fist!" (paraphrasing) which influenced why Superman not only visited Batman in the first place, but why Superman resorted to violence in the fight (after attempting to speak to him about it).

[@bus7343]

HI KIRBY

[@PolarisCastillo]

I love that you took shots at CinemaSins with the "messing with my script" bits. LOVED that.

[@jdg20042001]

Same!!

[@markkjohnson4815]

i thought both channels were done by the same guy...

[@tomcabler257]

+marcos soncini I also like both channels and thought it was the same if not oh well still like both of them!

[@markkjohnson4815]

+Tom Cabler yeah I like both of them but it's funny how more people join to dislike stuff either than reviewing what's great about movies. it's like saying "yeah I disliked Interstellar a bit less than Memento, it has less crappy things"

[@Kasino80]

It just came to a point where he couldn't defend it. That's what the joke was. At least as I see it.

[@macko4042]

Thank you... People bitched about this movie... Tbh I've seen this so many times in Cinema and enjoyed it even more every time... This is DC at its best... I don't care what people think... And you clearly simplified the movie for the neigh Sayers... The tone and score of this movie was exceptional... The motivation and portrayal of each character was incredible and so believable ... I only wish everyone could see this video... Maybe it will change their minds... Thanks again dude..

[@theitalianplumberspoorbrot4410]

You represent the very small amount of people that actually have an opinion

[@brycea6518]

You spent money on this more than once? For shame...

[@macko4042]

+Bryce Aulin ya... I'm a sucker for good movies

[@goromi9043]

+Bryce Aulin Why do you not like the movie ? I even liked the non-ultimate edition one.

[@denisetrine3066]

Me too. This ain't it.

[@0lderSch00l]

Concerning "Martha": I am 48 years old, will be 49 in a few months. I'm a Desert Storm Vet and I've been to a couple dozen countries and rambled around the US for a while. In all that time the only Martha I ever knew of as a real person was Martha Washington. I know of a few Marthas who died of old age, but never met a single one. Martha is not a common name, not any more and not for decades. It's common in fiction. The argument over this scene is ridiculous and made mostly by people who really, really like the formulaic standard 6 films that make up the entirety of the MCU. Expect better, people.

[@ryhk3293]

I'm 43 years old, have lived, worked or visited to over 40 countries and lived in over a dozen states and the District of Columbia (Taxation Without Representation!) In all that time, the only Martha I ever knew was ... this one hippie physicist chick I went on a date with to a Dixie Chicks concert at Wolf Trap twenty years ago. I think her name was Martha.

[@ryhk3293]

Snoop Dogg is disappoint.

[@gamingnoah9807]

Snoop dog is dissapoint guys

[@Sea-Bird..]

9:34, wow, i never thought of it this way, i thought this scene was the only bad thing in the movie but its beautiful, thank you for opening my eyes, batman v superman is a masterpiece(not like Joker, but still, a masterpiece), amazing video, good job!!!

[@Tyler_W]

THANK YOU. I hate that I have to defend "the Martha scene". it makes total sense and it's extremely powerful if you actually pay attention to the narrative and the theme of the movie...

[@cronostrife431]

lol it literally makes no sense try again m8

[@zachrobertson684]

Crono Strife It makes sense, it just could have been written better. The Zemo scene was only marginally better, man.

[@blacktee31]

I agree. I don't hate the movie, I just have a hard time seeing the positives because of how much they've changed my favorite characters into things they shouldn't. for me "could have been written better." sums up exactly how I feel about the movie as a whole.

[@sneakybeaky2877]

Crono Strife 9:36 to 10:50 would like to disagree.

[@Elias6233]

Zachary Robertson What Zemo scene?

[@MasterDoctorBenji]

I remember witnessing the Martha scene and thinking this is cinematic gold, and when people made fun of it I was like sure it sounds goofy but it makes so much sense but people didn't seem to get it. Hopefully more people see this and understand that this movie is insanely good.

[@freakyfunzo1937]

Benjamin Saunders exactly my sister knows the comics more than I do (maybe) and she doesn't even get it

[@s.g.7572]

But surely the fact that it sounds goofy means it isn’t cinematic gold? I mean, it got close by having good ideas and intentions, but the poor execution would give it cinematic silver at best.

[@timk7508]

I had no problems with this scene and even liked the beginning of the movie and some scenes were great. But an insanely good movie? It's like there are just people who adore it and those who give it way to much hate. Cinematic gold...I would say it's a nice watchable movie.

[@doctordoom1860]

@@timk7508 I respect that

[@leecroft7311]

I don’t care what anyone says this is (the director’s cut) one of the best superhero movie’s out there, I absolutely love this movie.

[@kowxley1793]

I loved it too, but it's too flawed to be perfect

[@siddharthverma8975]

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[@renansantos6533]

@@siddharthverma8975 Screw It 😂😂😂

[@jimmy2k4o]

Daredevil directors cut is amazing too.

[@benakinnusi2518]

Kowxley same

[@aaalm8724]

This movie was underrated .. mostly because of many superheroes movies was released at the same time..

[@marijnvanderdrift5272]

I'm so glad that this video was made because I actually enjoyed this movie so I think this is a nice change from al the criticism this movie is getting

[@ilittlemonster22]

Still a bad movie. I didn't think something could make me hate Superman this much

[@ozofkamelot2563]

+Stormtrooper is one word pls respect Then we just different opinion since this and MoS are the first time I don't dislike Superman. By the way, good or bad, is still an opinion. You can say that Pulp.Fiction is an awful movie while Fast and.the furious is a good movie. It's just opinion.

[@jesusv1152]

+Elliot Perera Lol don't think art is a "special" or good term, art is simply someone expressing themselves, A horrible movie( im not talking BvS) could be called art

[@ilittlemonster22]

+Adrian Vazquez Morales I'm not even a fan of super hero movies and this film pissed me off. Especially with that ending

[@ozofkamelot2563]

Stormtrooper is one word pls respect What does not being a fan in general but pissed you off fit in together?

[@Rein6teins]

thanks for the video! I thought that I saw the Martha scene like that alone. I really start to hate this internet critic culture, because this was really a great movie that didn't spoonfeed you all the answers. most of the criticism comes from this.

[@Elfrunner]

Totally agree with you. And people really need to stop listening to Rotten Tomatoes. This movie suffered unnecessarily at the box office because so many moviegoers put all their faith in that goddamned site. It's happening right now with Suicide Squad, which is also awesome! My goodness, the criticisms aimed at DC movies since Man of Steel have been totally unfounded. It's almost like hating DC is just the thing to do, because it's there and no one wants Marvel to be overshadowed. >_

[@delbaethmidir3533]

+Elfrunner "People need to stop listening to critics because they don't like the same movies I do"

[@Elfrunner]

+Danny O'Gara That's not what I said. I said people shouldn't be led by other peoples' opinions when seeing a movie. If you don't see it based on a Rotten Tomatoes score, how will you know if you like it or not? But you do make a good example of the asinine knee-jerk reactions I was referring to. Instead of understanding what I said, you used bias, and that being your idea I'm a fan who hates when people disagree with me. On the contrary, I don't care if people agree with me about Batman v. Superman, but at least try to reach the conclusion if it's good or bad on your own.

[@delbaethmidir3533]

+Elfrunner I find it ironic that people like you shit on others by jumping to this wild conclusion that they just blindly follow what critics say, because they're clearly incapable of telling on their own whether they enjoy something or not, and yet a lot of you expect them to agree with everything you say when you try and convince them why the movie is so good and if they still feel differently then they're just "too stupid to understand". :)

[@dabunnyman9133]

You have to admit, there were quite a few critics who seemed very PO'd that anyone went to see this film. Gleefully reporting any bad rumor and detailing every drop in boxoffice as an incredible catastrophe, even if it' was a normal drop. The movie was not perfect but the hate against it was off the charts at time.

[@dunianana1823]

10:25 literal goosebumps, hearing the alien humanizing bit. Great Work man...

[@ohwell6364]

I believe this movie will be remembered far better then it was received. And even if it isn’t, I’m just so thankful we got it.

[@pandaknuckles894]

wait...was...was I not suppose to love this movie when I saw it? Cause I love this movie

[@GeorgeMillerUSA]

Which version did you watched? Ultimate Edition was better.

[@veritas4733]

U were not supposed to.

[@EllaAngeli]

Only like the ultimate cut okay. The studio is a bunch of dicks

[@Stardweller1]

I love it too. No shame.

[@Austin_Powers]

Same I with out a doubt love the DCE no shame

[@LoneEditor]

Some one actual explained BVS and made me want to watch it again

[@shadowcat97fyi]

IKR

[@athosbmf]

Ahahahahahaha, to watch a god and "the world's best detective"? bwahahahahahaha.

[@sabaeliashvili7472]

I don't understand why are you laughing? because you really look stupid

[@RedRanger_]

It's a great movie

[@SerenityTV2002]

Don't watch it again. It's a bad movie

[@shepfaulk229]

Whether you like this movie or not you have to give praise to some things in it: amazing soundtrack, great action sequences, an original story, and the Batman in this movie

[@ButtaMOB23]

Thanks so much for pointing out so many great things about this movie. The extended cut is one of the best comic book movies. In my top 5 for sure. People not understanding the Martha scene was so frustrating. This movie should get way more love than it does... Extended cut lol

[@WL1264]

Do you also think the last jedi is also hated because it's misunderstood?

[@mohammadekramfaruquefahim194]

Superman was forced to hide his powers until he was an adult, felt alienated during his childhood (he was literally an alien), the only survivor of a dead species, the moment he decides to come out the world's facing a threat that too from his own kind, and then he's finally forced to kill his only remaining link to his heritage. When he says "my world doesn't exist anymore" it's not just Krypton blowing up or the world hating Superman, he was also sore about having to kill a fellow Kryptonian and destroying the Genesis chamber. Humans don't understand him, and there isn't a single Kryptonian left so he felt he was truly alone and a responsible for destroying Krypton. Also he did that because there was no hope for Kryptonians here, either by conquest or coexistence. See you don't always need spoon-fed expositions about why somebody's so damn hopeless and depressed. All you need is to follow the story a bit carefully and put yourself in the character's shoes. These aren't infallible comic characters. These are comic characters living in the real world.

[@aaaadit5155]

Mohammad Ekram Faruque Fahim yup

[@taoliu3949]

​@Yasser Bostan There's nothing 'mysterious' about anything. It's pretty clear IMO. All the facts were presented to the viewer. All you have to do is put yourself in his shoes and it becomes very clear. That said, the film even has multiple scenes with Superman discussing with Lois and his mother about various stuff, so it's not like it's just a huge data dump from Snyder. The issue is that people watch the movie thinking it's the Superman that they've always known him as, when it's really when Superman first getting into the superhero world. When you throw away these preconceptions and just take things at the face value, it's very easy to follow. That's probably why the film did so well overseas compared to the domestic market (pretty much WB's best performing film ever), people who didn't grow up with the characters were watching their first DC movie and thus were able to enjoy it the way Snyder wanted it to be.

[@alexanderchristopher6237]

@@taoliu3949 so, people still prefers the Superman that can't use his underwear properly rather than this?

[@ashleyclacy8879]

@DarkAvatar it's not exactly mysterious. I do agree with most of your argument, but this particular film was not so mysterious in the way it told its story.

[@taoliu3949]

@DarkAvatar Um, the dream sequence is just an Easter egg, at best maybe foreshadowing a future film. Like you said, if one never read the comics, they wouldn't know what the symbol meant, cool, you don't need to have read the comics to understand what was going on. As far as the audience is laymen are concerned, it is just a nightmare that batman is having due to his PTSD. That said, the comics and the DCAMU and New 52 also went straight into Justice League, so it's not like WB is completely doing their own stuff here.

[@CinemaWins]

I'm sure this won't stop this comment from constantly coming up, but the reason Superman says "Martha" and not "Mom" is because he wasn't currently being Clark Kent. He was Superman. As unbelievable as it may be for Bruce to not know Superman's secret identity, he didn't at that point. So he was still protecting his secret identity. I thought that was obvious. That's why I didn't mention it. And if I had to defend the reasoning behind Bruce not knowing Superman was Clark, why would he assume he'd need an alter ego? He sees him as an evil god alien, why would he ever pretend to be human?

[@infatuationcorner8282]

That's exactly what I say at first. Batman never knew that Clark Kent was Superman, for Bruce Clark was just another silly reporter taking side with Supes(Although I was kinda expecting to see this comment on the video) But you know, hate train and stuff.

[@zhengyingli]

+CinemaWins What do you think of the interpretation that due to Batman applying more pressure on Superman's throat the moment he said Martha, Superman was prevented from saying the rest of her name, and instead made a guttural sound? It's kind of out there, but interesting nonetheless.

[@hectorgrimal9770]

CinemaWins I want to add something extra. The idea of the scene is not as wrong or as far fetched as most people think. This is a fiction world with rules of awesomeness all around, so an scene like that is perfect. The problem is the presentation. I'd just rewatch this movie yesterday, (because of this channel BTW) and the problem of the scene is the juxtaposition. The scenes that accompany the main scene are just the previous scenes from the same movie, as if someone wasn't sure the idea was clear. (I think people are not going to remember Martha is the name of Bruce's mom, let's repeat those scenes JUST IN CASE). If those scenes are replaced with scenes from the memories of a child Bruce with his mom, and maybe Clark with his mom, it would have driven the idea home. But they way is presented you feel like they are force feeding you something.

[@sh00taboy]

Save his secret identity by revealing his mom's name and ask Batman to go save her? Wouldn't Batman then know who Superman is simply by looking up who Martha Kent's son is?

[@samhawkes7658]

This is one of the things I love about this movie: it's attention to detail. Because of that you're able to rewatch this movie and discover something you didn't need know before. This also allows for lots of deep thinking

[@noelburland7169]

The Ultimate Edition of BvS is an outstanding story driven film and it was extremely negligible of the Studio to trim it down to the theatrical cut that was significantly less appreciated. Essentially the same thing happened with the Justice League film, which left a lot of us feeling let down with the wasted potential. Hopefully the Snyder Cut due out next year can rectify the problems with the theatrical cut of the film released in 2017.

[@yaseen9044]

Rectify?? It's an entirely different fucking movie, the snyder cut. The theatrical was just joss Whedon's version of "Avengers if they were in DCEU". The Snyder cut and the theatrical, based on what I heard, are absolutely different from each other. To put it down as a mere "rectification" is hilariously dumb. (no offense tho)

[@dayannajimenezarguello1733]

I don’t know why WB has this stupid idea, philosophy that a movie that’s over 2 hours won’t sale at the movies... have they ever watched LOTR, The Godfather, Schindler’s List, Titanic, Avengers End Game, and so on? They need to trim and trim because people will only watch a short movie... 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@d1want34]

You prayer has been answered

[@LordyT34]

Its a shame we can't have deep superhero movies. This movie had so many awesome themes in it and all you had to do was THINK ABOUT IT for like ten seconds and you'd understand! Now in movies everything has to be Nick jr. level complex or people hate it. Why??????

[@bromodragone8405]

If you disagree with what I'm about to say, DON'T BOTHER REPLYING. Clark had no idea that Bruce's mom was named Martha. He just said what he could while Batman was standing on his neck with a kryptonite spear. Batman heard "Martha...!" and basically went "What did you just say?" he released a bit of weight to let Clark talk "Save... Martha...!" Bruce, who sees Clark as a dangerous, murderous alien, thinks "No. Martha's dead. Hes trying to trick me. Right?" So he demands to know why Clark said the name. Lois explains that Clark's mother is Martha Kent. Batman then thought "His mother...? This alien has a human mother?" In other words: THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINK!!!!! What would you have said if your mom was in danger of dying and there was a guy in a metal suit pressing his boot against your throat with a spear to your face? The actual fight between Batman and Superman seems underwhelming with Batman managing to kick Superman's ass quite easily thanks to Kryptonite, despite the hype of which DC icon would win. But if one were to view the film with Batman as the villain/antagonist of the story, the fight's short and one-sided nature actually makes sense. It's not about who would win in a fight, but rather about just how far Batman has fallen in his vendetta against Superman. His dominance over Superman is not of a heroic underdog fighting back against a god, but rather a cruel bully harming a good man pleading for his aid to save his mother from being killed, going against everything Batman fought for. Batman had already lost the moment he started fighting while Superman ultimately won by making Batman realize what he has done. THIS. IS. NOT. MARVEL. Get you mind out of the MCU and into the DCEU. This is different. If you disagree, don't bother replying.

[@daverobson3084]

Because saying " my mother( which would have made faaaaaaaaaaar more sense) is so much more difficulty to say than "Martha"????????????? In your own words. THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINK!!! The criticism has always been about the WHY Superman says"Martha" and NOT about WHY it works on Batman. Defenders of this movie get it wrong CONSTANTLY. They defend tha "why it works on Batman" while ignoring ( or , in your case, give some incredibly weak defense of) WHY Superman would even say what he did how he did. Also, we just can;t understand why Superman ever thought that Batman, the guy he branded as a violent, borderline psychopathic, vigilante would be any help in finding/saving his mother.

[@mcmachan9867]

@@daverobson3084 You know what would have happened if he said save my mom? It'd have gone In one ear and out the other. Batman clearly just stated not 2 mins beforehand he doesn't give a shit about Superman's parents. "I bet your parents taught you, that you mean something, that your here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson... dying in the gutter for no reason at all. They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to." Batman would probably just assume he's talking about his alien mother, and proceed to impale him through the face. So how do you get through to the crazed vigilante who's claims to be doing this for the survival of the human race? You appeal to his humanity and make her a person. On the off chance Batman goes through with it and kills Superman, at least Batman would still have a name to go off of and not be all like "Who's Mom?" Plus, there's supposedly a deleted scene not seen in the Ultimate Edition were Clark does some research on Bruce and his parents on his laptop after finding out his identity at Lex's party. In it he learns Bruce's mother was named Martha, and notes the coincidence as his mother has the same name. This may lead into the scene where he calls his mother. Now, anyone running around dressed up as a bat is clearly not all there. It's been well established that Batman is fucked mentally and his parents death fucked him up, so it's possible, using this information, Superman knew Batman's mother's name was Martha and used it to his advantage. Like I said, appeal to his humanity and make her a person. I gave you two reasons as to why Superman said Martha and not mom, now take this L

[@JennySparkz]

@@mcmachan9867 Bunkles of Fudge!!! This is LITERALLY the best Martha explanation I have come across. Kudos Sir

[@DivvayKhatri]

@@daverobson3084 as if he had the time to call out a full sentence before some random dude in a metal suit and a spear in his hand pearses through his face. Yeah right. He had one single moment to get something in batman's mind and that's why he used the name of the person he wanted to save

[@daverobson3084]

@@DivvayKhatri Because yelling " You're letting him kill Martha!" is (somehow) NOT a full sentence.?!? Deciding that he did not want to convey WHO was killing Martha, or who indeed Martha even was , leaving a possible situation where Batman still kills him and still has no idea who was in danger of being killed and by whom. Why? Because everyone in this movie is a super genius combined simultaneously with a super idiot.

[@david6avila]

finally someone gets the "Martha" scene

[@greyknight9638]

Exactly. I roll my eyes every time someone criticizes it.

[@delbaethmidir3533]

+Jason McCloud I roll my eyes every time I think about it.

[@greyknight9638]

Danny O'Gara Ah, so in other words you never roll your eyes because you're clearly incapable of thinking! :P

[@Smallfrye]

Okay, I'm gonna spell out why I hate the "Martha scene" so much: 1. There is no reason for Superman to say "Martha", he would logically say "My mother" Or something to that effect. 2. Batman murders so many people throughout the film, that why would he not kill Superman just because he's like "Oh, he's kinda human too. He has a mom." 3. The whole situation under which they are fighting it's so paper thin that one fucking name stops the entire fight. 4. Batman immediately forgets EVERY reason he hated Superman, and starts helping him without another question. 5. After seeing Superman humanized and realizing "We're not so different" He goes right on to murder more people without a thought of their familes or their mothers names. That's why I hate that scene, that concept, and that whole section of the movie.

[@delbaethmidir3533]

+Jason McCloud Yes, the only possible reason somebody could have for disliking this scene is totally because they're incapable of thinking, and not because it was a contrived and cringey anticlimax. Next up, people try and defend the scene in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen where Megan Fox gets her leg humped by a horny robot, by talking about how deep and emotional it is because it shows how lonely the robot is and people are just too spoonfed to get it. Anyone who thinks this movie has a deep and intelligent story needs to try reading a good book that actually does make you think. Maybe Ulysses, or something by Dostoevsky? And no, Bleach comics don't count.

[@CallumDMD]

With regards to the Martha scene, I ran a thought experiment with myself. 1: What of Superman had just said, "Hey! I know your mother's name was Martha! My mom's name is also Martha!" Batman would've have said something to the effect of, "Who cares?! I don't give a fig!!!" But because Superman said, "You're letting him kill Martha!" Then Batman's curiosity peaked, and he was like, "What did you say? Why did you say that name?" Because the catalyst of the scene wasn't that their mothers had the same name, as you said, "It was the spark that snapped Bruce out of his kill rage. Or the alternative: 2: Superman's mother's name wasn't Martha, and the line would've gone, "You're letting him kill Lisa!" Batman's response would've have been hardly different. He still would've have been concerned for this person it became apparent Superman was trying to protect. "Who's Lisa? Why did you say that? Is she in danger?" Etc Either way it would've been enough of a curve ball to make Batman think twice about what he was doing. Bottom line I agree that if people think that Batman spared Superman because their mothers had the same name... they missed the point.

[@ryancason7819]

I've been a fan of this movie for awhile now and love so many things about it, but you managed to deepen my love for it by finding things I missed: the world engine sound being the sound that leads us into Batman's nightmares, the opening scene being so triggering for Bruce because the little girl reminds him of himself when his parents died, etc. Thank you for this video and the work you do. It truly is wonderful to have someone who thinks about and values movies as much as you do.

[@davidpumpkinsjr.5108]

It is a well established trait of Batman's character that whenever he gets too close to the edge, the memory of his parents pulls him back. As such, it's been used in every medium Batman has appeared in. What baffles me is that, for the first time in 80 years, this movie is the only time it's been met with derision.

[@sharendavis9216]

holy shit that was really well put haha

[@haseebsiddiqi3409]

probably because in this movie he has already killed random goons without heistating while in the others its his first time. he kills a shit ton of people in this film lmao it might have worked if he didnt

[@sharendavis9216]

@@haseebsiddiqi3409 It's ok to not understand the movie.

[@haseebsiddiqi3409]

@@sharendavis9216 r u dumb I understand why he doesn't kill superman but it would make way more sense if that was his first time killing someone In the movie it is shown that he doesn't hesitate to kill random goons but he does with superman who could kill everyone if he wanted.

[@tonk3878]

@@haseebsiddiqi3409 I would have just shot him, I mean for sure Superman wouldn't even try to dodge (being bulletproof and all that). Best to ignore these small problems, every movie has them, if it works it works.

[@wongwagiqwa1225]

Jesus Fucking Christ! I fucking LOVED this movie! You nailed it! Every damn thing! Especially that people need to start getting in gear with the DCEU and not expect MCU movies. Jesus, I really want to watch it again now :)

[@wongwagiqwa1225]

Also, please do everything right with CinemaSins :)

[@Humble0721]

I have watched the Ult Ed. 3x already, I seen the Theatrical 4x with different audiences.

[@wongwagiqwa1225]

Humble0721 Lmao! Damn man!

[@tayzadayzah6681]

Haha bro I've watched Suicide Squad 6 times in theaters, and I'm still planning to go back for more haha!

[@Humble0721]

For us in the group that actually like/love this movie I mean it was like christmas seeing those two. Granted it wasnt perfect but for what it was, I'll take it. especially since it opened the door for "Metahumans". DCEU will be just fine

[@Robbity]

Eisenberg is the best part of this movie. His performance is so subtle, and incredibly terrifying. What an amazing actor.

[@PJOZeus]

‘Hope they’ll learn this time’ JL Snyder Cut: ‘Well yes, but actually no’

[@johnstanley6977]

I wasn't going to watch this with all the negative reviews, but the critics were so wrong. This is an epic film that does justice to the dc universe. It's just awesome.

[@Bonesboy15]

Ha! Justice to the DC universe...I see what you did there.

[@dylansmith5161]

The critics weren't wrong, they just have different taste than you. Why is it that people cannot just like something without telling everyone they are wrong about it. Lives are not the same, and art imitates life, so it stands to reason that people will have different opinions. Don't devalue other opinions to heighten your own.

[@aidabaida6076]

Here's my explanation for why BvS got bad reviews, whereas most young people on the internet loved it. See, BvS tried to be more than just a comic book movie. It tried to be a great movie on its own terms. Now, since most teenagers/internet citizens haven't seen the REAL great movies, the true classics like Lawrence of Arabia or No Country for Old Men, BvS seemed to them to be a masterpiece. It certainly seemed to be aiming for something more than just your standard popcorn movie. But most critics HAVE seen the true classics. If BvS had been content to stay a normal popcorn movie, it would've been judged as such and gotten decent reviews. But since it tried to be more than that, they were forced to raise their standards, and they were forced to judge it as a potential "great" movie. And it came up short. The truth is, as a superhero movie, BvS ain't bad, but as a real MOVIE, it comes up pretty short. Snyder's ambition and attempt to raise BvS beyond just a brainless action film backfired. All he succeeded in was making a movie that was going to be judged more harshly because it aimed so much higher. I don't think the critics united to destroy it, I think they said, "Okay, Snyder, you want BvS to be an actually IMPORTANT movie, we'll judge it as an IMPORTANT movie, not just as a superhero movie." And it came up short. Thus, the bad reviews.

[@pablo-qt9gm]

Aida Baida this is the most accurate comment I have ever read.

[@aidabaida6076]

Thanks. I see a lot of people saying the critics hated BvS because "They didn't understand it", or because "They're used to Marvel spoonfeeding them", and I just don't think that's the case. Some of the most twisty, complex movies have the best reviews. The problem was that BvS, aiming to become something more than a superhero movie and failing, seemed a masterpiece to teenagers who haven't watched many actually great movies, and seemed a little boy floundering around in daddy's shoes to the critics who have.

[@Pongus_420]

"I really hope the studio learns from this next time and just releases the original cut." If only... #ReleaseTheSnyderCut

[@DivvayKhatri]

They really messed up big time there

[@turtleguyfan]

I’ve come from the future. It may be happening.

[@turtleguyfan]

Paul Silvia I’ve come from even further in the future. It’s happening. HBO Max in 2021. We did it.

[@deletoblue2041]

@@turtleguyfan Gentlemen, we got em.

[@ammarahsan5469]

@@turtleguyfan I've come from even further in the future, the first trailer is out and it's beautiful!

[@Slipknot4769]

My god, I'm convinced this movie is awesome now.

[@milrevko]

I can’t believe you missed one of the best Frank Miller moments ever “I believe you” Check out that one frame in the comic for the graphic novel or whatever it’s pure art

[@shiverwolf460]

Okay, you actually returned and given me some new respect for Snyder and this movie. Good job CinemaWins.

[@abstractAnomaly]

THANK YOU, DEAR FUCKING GOD, SOMEONE FINALLY GOT IT WHEN IT CAME TO THE WHOLE "Martha" SCENE! I HATE HOW MISUNDERSTOOD IT USUALLY IS! Thank you so much, seriously. ;u;

[@MCLSD_]

you convinced me they did a better-than-decent-not-amazing story. love this

[@siddhantsinghakumar]

Batman v Superman - Ultimate Edition is one of the greatest superhero movies ever made. Zack Snyder left no stone unturned with this. Thanks Cinemawins for this indepth analysis. ❤️