Everything GREAT About Joker!

[@michaelhegwood9977]

As someone who used to work as a mascot at an amusement park, I had immediate sympathy when he got his teeth kicked in by a bunch of teenagers.

[@tonypeppermint5329]

God damn.

[@_hulse]

As someone who’s just a human being I too felt sympathy when he got his teeth kicked in.

[@sogmeister]

As a clown convicted of murder, I too felt sympathy when he had his teeth kicked in

[@jeromevaleska2014]

@@sogmeister Umm… I’m sorry?

[@bambabam1234]

What felt heavy was that he immediatly started to protect his groin and neck. Thats not an instinctive reaction and shows it happened to him before :(

[@Hannah4765]

I always took Joker's "You wouldn't get it" line as the fact that he never understood why he finds some things funny, like killing the wall street guys, and other people laugh at other things. Like at the comedy show when Arthur didn't laugh at the actual punch lines. But now he understands that; he sees that the "average" person doesn't find what he finds funny. And he now knows how to convey that in speech.

[@tankofish937]

underrated comment Edit: my work here is done

[@just_doug]

Love this interpretation

[@EbonySerpent999]

Truthful comment.

[@ekkosfatnuts]

That actually makes a ton of sense. I've always looked for deeper meaning in that sentence but this is very much in line with the movie itself.

[@tonydurran8021]

I'd even say it's partly because no one ever gets his jokes. He's realised no one understands his humour, but he's now alright with being an appreciative audience of one.

[@GarchompandGible]

For me, the best part of this movie is the score. It slowly builds over the course of the movie, becoming louder as Arthur's psyche fractures further, reflecting the madness that's going on in his mind. Amazing stuff.

[@fynnthefox9078]

For me it was the score and Phoenix's performance.

[@FizzleFX]

The score, really? You missed the story bro or watch YOUR NAME. Now thats darn good music

[@-steve-buscemis-budussy-7010]

@@FizzleFX not that deep bro… the music was amazing

[@thedudeabiding1582]

Really reminded me of The Shining

[@matthewfisher8679]

the score is utterly haunting and yet so morbidly beautiful. I jumped up and down with glee when it won the Oscar for best original score

[@darth_meme_lord2980]

I like how we can interpret this movie as one of jokers origin stories because he has always said "if I'm going to have a backstory I want it to be multiple choice"

[@Jedi-ge6lr]

The quote is actually: "If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice."

[@johndong4754]

Thats why this movie is terrible. There are many plot conveniences, contrived plotpoints, underwritten characters, but you can just conveniently write all that off because this is one of "jokers origin stories"

[@ss-nu3qf]

​@@johndong4754 nobody is saying that but ok

[@johndong4754]

@@ss-nu3qf I've seen many people online justify the film's weaknesses by saying that this is one of Joker's dreams

[@ss-nu3qf]

@@johndong4754 are these people in the room with us right now?

[@haasher10]

"The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to *BEHAVE* as if you don't." - Arthur Fleck

[@LadyOnikara]

Very accurate to how life is, for sure. If I want to talk to the walls, I should be able to do so. I would talk to the floor, but then I would have to listen to it complaining about people walking all over it and never showing it any respect.

[@pokris3385]

@@LadyOnikara wow you’re so different and edgy.

[@puririiin]

@@LadyOnikara bro, what 💀💀

[@lainwakura]

if you sympathize and agree with arthur get some fucking help.

[@PetersaberHD]

I'm suffering from depression. Pretty bad kind. That line felt... extremely on point. The only thing missing was a reference to something like "get over yourself" "you don't have it bad" or "go for a walk on a sunny day".

[@krank23]

A villain being somewhat sympathetic and having an inner life and motivations doesn't make them an antihero. It just makes them a good villain. An interesting one, possibly a well-written one. But I guess people who are 100% used to cardboard cutout cackling Skeletor villains might make that mistake.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

I like good villains, it makes the fight feel less about who punches harder and more of a struggle between two ideals. Everybody is the hero of their own story, this is the key to writing a good villain. Nobody is evil for evils sake, sure you'll have the occasional twat that just wants to watch the world burn, but even they would have a reason for it. Whether it vengeance or belief that humans are a parasite to be purged.

[@krank23]

@@SherrifOfNottingham Yeah. My favorite villains are the ones who are basically right - or they're right enough for me to actually be kind of unsure if it's a good or a bad thing that they're defeated. Villains who have a true, coherent and pretty reasonable point are the *best*. Magneto when handled well is a good example. He has a point - humans ARE treating mutants horribly. Killmonger in Black Panther came close, he had a bunch of really good points, but was undermined by turning out to be a standad-fare megalomaniac. Marvel, especially in the movies, have a bad habit of Skeletorizing their MCU villains… Loki was probably the villain that came closest, at least in the first Thor movie he had a coherent motivation and a kind of legit grievance against Odin…

[@Ikajo]

@@krank23 Any good villain has a motivation for their actions. I've argued this with so many people who insist it is unnecessary, it is one of the reasons I grew critical of JK Rowling years before she showed her true colours. A good villain can become a character people feel for and want redeemed, like Loki from the MCU. The comics hasn't caught up yet...

[@zachbahamutson5477]

My problem here is that it doesn't work for the Joker. He's supposed to be as unsympathetic as possible he's supposed to be evil for the sake of being evil him having a backstory makes him less interesting as a result. Ask Joker himself said "sometimes I remember it one, way sometimes another. If I were to have a backstory I'd like it to be multiple choice."

[@SandraNLN]

@@zachbahamutson5477 But isn't that the point of the ambiguity of the film? Is it real? is it not? Is Joker just telling a BS story to us to f*** with us? He's an arbiter of chaos, this movie IS chaotic. Sympathizing with him is the last thing you should be doing, except at the very beginning (because the story wants you off your guard). The film doesn't change the nature of his character or villainy being interesting, because it stops you from thinking of him as just a 2-dimensional cardboard villain. We don't know what is true, therefore everything and nothing is true.

[@jasoncampbell3558]

I will say, the way this movie is filmed and directed, does give the impression that you are seeing this story from the perspective of someone with a shattered psyche. Everything feels fuzzy, we see some things that are real, but others either don't make sense or aren't a complete picture, we seemingly only get one side of the story, and by the end it's hard to tell what details are reality and what is just Arthurs broken mind trying to phantom. In a way, this film is a great adaptation of what it's like for someone to slowly lose their mind. An interesting movie honestly.

[@Anthintendo]

“fathom,” not “phantom”, great thoughts though.

[@starkiller14100]

Hildur Guðnadóttir won the Academy Award for best original score for this film. I remember her winning because it isn't too often you see a female composer winning an Oscar.

[@EbonySerpent999]

As a feminist I'm really happy.

[@dalnim4294]

Hildur is brilliant

[@BaldPerspective]

Well deserved too. I remember watching & being slightly nervous they would give it to someone else considering how badly they f^cked up giving the award for best Audio Mix, the prior year, to freaking Bohemian Rhapsody & *not* A Quiet Place, as well as the simple fact that the Academy hates anything not related to acting, directing, cinematography, & politics (mainly inner-Hollywood politics, but probs the governmental kind too), especially music & audio, it seems. Fun Fact: Did you know Academy voters don't have to vote for every category? Imagine getting a choice in your job to only do part of your assigned duties, or getting an A+ on your homework assignment even though you chose not to do part or even most of it.

[@Boredman567]

And earlier that same year, she composed the music for the Chernobyl miniseries, for which she won an Emmy. In both works, she really helps craft an atmosphere that is uneasy, melancholy, and potentially volatile.

[@Deviantygr]

@@Boredman567 Oh WOW I had no idea about Chernobyl. The music in that series was SO impactful.

[@trinaq]

Early in the movie, Arthur imagines Murray telling him that he wishes that he was his son. But then he mentions one of his "not so bright" sons, a hint of how badly he'll treat Arthur later.

[@RacingSnails64]

Nice detail, sad situation lol

[@grant4961]

Sup Trina I see u comment on so many videos

[@thedarkknight9153]

This movie is a masterpiece. Credit to Joaquin Phoenix for his phenomenal acting and Hildur Guonadottir for the soundtrack.

[@SpairM]

Hildur Guðnadóttir is such a badass name tbh

[@johi367]

If you like this movie you would like king of comedy

[@puggumpus]

The shift in the lenses used throughout the film symbolises his mental clarity, it started off hazed and dim, eventually becoming clear and the colours pop more. And I love it

[@gaberielpendragon]

This movie made me feel so very uncomfortable, and it was bloody amazing for doing so. Such an amazing movie. People complaining about it making them uncomfortable completely missed the point of both the movie and of the joker. It isn't supposed to be comfortable, it isn't a fun romp through comic book land, this is about someone with mental illness going through their worst possible day and the force of nature that it brought to the world. A reminder that we are all one bad day away from being homeless, jailed, or dead. The joker appeals to people because we all have so much more in common with the joker than we do with any hero, especially Batman. But that realization also congress with a long list of dark truths we actively fight to run and or hide from. Good art makes us feel things, not always things we want to feel.

[@MrMobiusfan]

That said, it also helps us realize that the things we DO have in common with heroes, especially Batman, are the most important: How we choose to be good people, how we choose to be better than the world that hurts us so, how we choose to not make the world worse than it is.

[@orinanime]

@@MrMobiusfan except Batman is deeply psychologically flawed and his choices aren't actually those of a good person and and he's actively making the world worse. But he's certainly an interesting character.

[@MrMobiusfan]

@@orinanime Stopping mass murderers from killing is not making the world worse. Killing them himself would only undermine the system that he is trying further.

[@orinanime]

@@MrMobiusfan he doesn't stop them from killing though. Most Batman stories have him in the role of the reactionary character. Responding to the crime. Not preventing it. He's frequently trying to catch/punish criminals after they've already committed the murders. Batman even said so himself when confronting the Joker: "The millions I've murdered by letting you live.". Batman stops SOME murders. But more frequently his stories are about him pursuing the villain after they've already committed to crime.

[@MrMobiusfan]

@@orinanime preventing a crime in the context you are implying is little more than punishing thought crimes, or taking on the role of executioner. Doing so would mean discarding any faith that the system can work, and thereby saying that the world cannot become better. It would mean accepting that monsters like the Joker are right.

[@matti.8465]

The "just take it like good little boys" part of the speech makes me think that Arthur is repeating the words of his abusive stepfather. The movie is pretty vague about Arthur's childhood abuse, because Arthur himself can't even remember, but the implication is there.

[@-MrFozzy-]

The ‘why would I keep his sign’ delivery is just…amazing I could never be an actor…I would never think to deliver that line, in that way

[@sibling_of_sin]

late but the director gets credit for that

[@Kennedy00Louis]

This movie took the "One bad day" concept from The Killing Joke and made it into "One hell of a bad life", my God watching Arthur getting phisically and mentally hurt by everything around him was so unconfortable and sad, and once he embraces being the Joker and begins chaos, its scary to think that I was rooting for him, I knew that what he was doing was clearly insane and he was descending into tragedy, but it was so satisfying to see him release himself and go wild, from his point of view he was ascending, and he was going higher than ever before, for once in his miserable life he was truly having fun. And then comes the realization that it was probably all in his head. What was real? What wasn't? Maybe none of that happened at all! But I guess if the Joker has a past, he prefers it to be multiple choice.

[@daviddaugherty2816]

What's interesting is that his laugh sounds painful and unnatural until he snaps, then it sounds far more comfortable.

[@logangiddings7166]

I think one of my best theater moments has to be when he walks down the hallway laughing and then abruptly stops. There was a group of late teen-early twenties girls in front of me and all of us laughed but I stopped long before everyone else. I realized that the intention was to make the audience feel guilt for laughing at Arthur, which I did. And I got to watch the uncomfortable realization spread through the theater. That's art right there.

[@linksstruepower7443]

This movie was straight up soul crushing to me. Because the scariest part of it all, is that just about everything that happened in this movie could happen in real life.

[@elconejitopandrosito4971]

My literature teacher once said that Joaquin Phoenix’s joker is one of the most real jokers of all; anyone can have a bad day that would totally destroy you!

[@jonathanstackhaus8449]

I love that they lean into that line from the comics, but with a realism that points out even that as a literal statement is unrealistic, further adding to how far gone the speaker is.

[@zachbahamutson5477]

I'm pretty sure the point of the movie was that the Joker was having a string of bad days. It wasn't just one bad day that destroyed him it was multiple slowly chiseling away at his sanity if he had any to begin with. I really don't like what it implies that joker might actually be Batman's half brother either.

[@jonathanstackhaus8449]

@@zachbahamutson5477 I agree, that's why I said the movie points out the literal statement "one bad day" is unrealistic.

[@BloodyFlowerFilms]

I’m so proud to own a poster for this film. When I was working at my theater when we had this, I saw it at least four times and ALWAYS made sure to see the “YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE!” scene when I walked into the theaters themselves just to see that scene. I will never forget Joker. What a film.

[@MilesUpshur0]

Agreed

[@lsig7975]

This is the scariest live action Joker in my opinion.

[@chasehedges6775]

Heath Ledger’s Joker was pretty scary but this one….yeah

[@KurtReynolds0]

I would say Heaths was slightly scarier imo but I get you😊

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@chasehedges6775 I literally see you everywhere lol. I guess we watch the same stuff

[@shaharbahar9928]

I think you have missed a part about the fact that "joker" is written in bold and saturated and over the edges lettering yet "the end" is written in a swirly simple short thin and basically showing the difference he had from the start and the end. Bold lettering can show maybe how, yes, he is bigger than life but also he's stretching and being big to overcome his humanity yet the "the end" is him being more free and loose, not caring for whats gonna happen like you said.

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

This movie was so damn special. Joaquin Phoenix is one of my all-time favorite Jokers. So dark, so tragic and so harrowing. The criticisms surrounding the movie is weird to me. I honestly don't understand it. It's really incredible how much this movie has been a discussion about mental health and class issues in America. It's still bone-chilling to think about, which also includes the music. Also, the stairs scene, the Joker reveal and the blood smile? *chef's kiss* Also, the composer (I won't mispronounce her name) and Joaquin legitimately earned their Oscars. Now, the sequel (aka Folie à Deux). Do I think it's necessary? No. Am I looking forward to seeing it? Yes. Am I hyped for Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn? Hell yes. Man, this movie is incredible.

[@lucascauan9239]

Don't watch the sequel

[@nataliaborys1554]

What I really like about the movie is how by the time Arthur snaps you totally get why he's so fed up with _everything,_ while, on the other hand, the murders still feel unsettling, like he's going too far. Basically, it makes Joker a great villain, whose point we understand but can still disagree with his actions. Good stuff.

[@traviscummings9178]

Much as I love seeing Joker being a criminal mastermind, it was refreshing seeing him be a true agent of chaos. In other words, Joaquin Phoenix is always a win

[@TheCommenterDragon]

I love this interpretation of Joker, he's one of my all time favorite DC super villains!, Joaquin Phoenix did such an astounding job portraying the character!!!

[@ApKieras]

There is only on 🃏 and this one is just woke shit and boring.

[@Aidscapade71]

You're using that word Antihero... I don't think it means what you think it means. The joker is not an Antihero and "Everyone is just repeating the same wrong information". Best example of an Antihero is Max from Mad Max.

[@Tores444]

He's definitely not an anti-hero. Sympathy does not make an anti-hero

[@Mudfire15]

@@Aidscapade71 But Lee said "are you *sure* he's an anti-hero?" Not "He *is* an antihero."

[@erichfiedler1481]

That may be true, but Mark Hamill is still the best portrayal of Joker

[@HIsForHawk]

A missing creepy win... the way Murphy dies. There is a line in an episode of Sherlock, about a murderer being disappointed he could see that "dead" people in movies and TV were still a live, that dead people become objects the moment they die. And that is fully true; dead people are almost otherworldly, either if you see them in an awful situation or a morge. The way Murphy dies, the way his body just stiffens and becomes... something... that is scaring and scarringly real...

[@CrysiCrysis]

Joker was such a fantastic watch. It has spectacular filmmaking, incredible acting, and an otherworldly score. It’s fantastic. One of the things I noticed in the theatre was the lack of straight, even lines in the majority of the film. Everything until the finale felt slanted, off center, and abnormal. It was uncomfortable to watch, unnerving in an unspoken sort of way. Exactly as the Joker should feel. The existence of a backstory for a villain is something I will always adore, as well. A well crafted villain is, in my opinion, one who is just on the border of being correct. They are right, they have a point… they simply mishandle it or ruin it somehow. Joker manages this wonderfully. You can see the reason to his actions, you WANT to empathize, and stop because this is a villain who does horrible things. Joker made the Joker more than just a force of nature chaos guy who does what he does for his own twisted entertainment. It made the Joker a man who does what he does because it’s the only thing he can think to do. And the unreliable narration, the fantasy and potential for the entire thing to be a complete lie? The cherry on top. The masterstroke on the whole narrative. The fact that we don’t know how much is true and how much simply isn’t… just. Perfection. It’s a very well made film about a tricky subject matter. But personally, it’s a 10/10. It did what it set out to do and I respect the hell out of the filmmakers for it.

[@EbonySerpent999]

Agreed.

[@hoardofjules]

I haven't had the chance to watch this yet but I clicked so I could say: 1. I'm glad you did this video. 2. PLEASE do Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd. Okay, that's all for now!

[@jeromevaleska2014]

Oh man, watch it. It’s on Netflix, if you don’t have Netflix you can buy it on Amazon Prime. There is no excuse for missing this masterpiece. In case you’ve avoided spoilers I won’t say anything, but look out for a scene I like to call, “How about another Joker, Murray?”

[@SinHurr]

These Are My Friends~

[@beeblebuice]

omg a video on sweeney todd is the only thing i need in my life rn

[@Jaimemmmm]

Be sure to watch Sideways video on Sweeney Todd if you ever make a video about it!

[@ParanoidOwlet]

I noticed a lot of reviews, not necessarily this one, bash Joker for its portrayal of mental illness, mainly due to its being linked with aggression and violence. Which is honestly surprising. Although l don’t have anything as severe as Arthur, there are some mental health issues l try to live with, and seeing him struggle made me feel understood in some way. The movie doesn’t show that “He’s evil because he has a condition”, whatever some people think. What it does show though is how hard it can be to live when you feel you’re not right for this world.

[@blaney1014]

At first I was like “wait there’s a new joker?” Then I realized it’s a reupload Edit: thanks for the 200 likes!

[@tonypeppermint5329]

It was a surprise seeing this.

[@jamescarr8196]

LOL

[@norm-bb3bb]

What happened with the other two videos? I remember there were two parts

[@Ch4pp13]

@@norm-bb3bb This is just a combiner-video because it used to be in 2 parts. Cinemawins' just combining multi-part videos for an easier viewing experience, I think.

[@blaney1014]

@@norm-bb3bb I think he merged them

[@Constant01234567891011]

I've always had this thought, I may have heard it somewhere and just don't remember, but basically, "You get out what you bring in." If people go to a movie like this and expect to get political divisionism and justification for violence, that's all they're going to see. You truly see the world the way YOU want to see it and that's not always beneficial to you or anyone around you. Just be aware of your own biases and stances and remember that not everything has to have meaning.

[@blackcat19]

There's a quote, I don't remember who said it, that summarizes this pretty well: "We don't see things as they are, we see things as *we* are".

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

It's the same reason the fear of violent video games is foolish. Fact is I'm sure there's people out there that instead of shooting up their school went home and tore apart some virtual demons in a video game to let off the steam. If you go in looking at something like it's "appealing to violence" or "appealing to racism" or "appealing to the male fantasy" then that's all you're going to see. No different from how somebody trying to solve a puzzle can sit for hours stumped and have somebody else pick up the piece you're looking at it and put it in the place you thought it could never fit. Once you set your mind to something, you block out any other perspective.

[@earheard]

Pure greatness man. The movie is 122 minutes long and I literally loved each and every minute. I hope, I really hope the sequel delivers.

[@Malrottian]

Always felt the dancing was the actual 'Joker' slipping through and enjoying the orchestrated chaos of the world.

[@Yezhanium]

Personally, I like to see it as "If I have a backstory, I'd like it to be a multiple choice" thing that Joker tells to his shrinks, to get in their head. And while it might be exaggerated, overblown, mistified and such... As one wise man said, two things - "jokes are built on misery in some way" / "every joke has a grain of truth".

[@GERMANAITOR]

And the best part? There is no sequel.

[@slimgrim3607]

the idea of making a sequel to this is laughable. thats why nobodies made it yet. doesnt need one.

[@rogueguardian]

​@@slimgrim3607yep absolutely no sequel was made.... I'm certain

[@devankgulati1637]

You still don't get it ​@@slimgrim3607

[@LeonardoKlotz]

I loved Lawrence Sher's cinematography I was even rooting for him to win for Best Cinematography at the Oscars But then I saw 1917 and realized he didn't stand a chance

[@just_doug]

Poor guy almost made it then Deakins pulls out that flare scene and it's game over.

[@IantheDugan]

While I found the actual screenplay a little underwhelming, Phoenix is electric on screen and Lawrence Sher's cinematography is incredible. His lighting team and colorist in post-production crushed it.

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

Here after joker 2, Lol

[@elijahgemmill2000]

I remember when Joaquin just danced on the stage and made out with the doctor. I whispered to my friend "Holy shit. That's him. That's the Joker".

[@soggy_dubs7137]

9:36, my i begged my grandpa to take me to the theatre when this came to town, when this scene came on i had to leave the theatre i was so scared. Truly a wonderful perforkwnce from Phoenix.

[@loicloos9599]

This movie is just outstanding!! Even for a DC movie this was another level of darkness. Credit to Joaquin Phoenix for the amazing performance, and so happy that DC is finally back to making masterpieces like this one!!

[@douglasmarshall6949]

this movie came out three years ago

[@loicloos9599]

@@douglasmarshall6949 yeah i know but i was talking about the present, movies like the batman and the most recent suicide squad. Apart from wonder woman 1984 they haven't flopped once in my opinion.

[@douglasmarshall6949]

@@loicloos9599 oh i see

[@atharvoak3445]

Hey CinemaWins, I just want to say I really appreciate your work and love what you do. When the world is going down, it's good to see someone seeing something positive in everything. In that tone, I want to request a movie. It is called RRR, an Indian movie which was a suprise hit(for me, at least). Take your time we are in no hurry. I just want your opinion on it.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

The gateway drug to a whole other cinematic universe.

[@maxparkerz7697]

Yeah Bollywood I think might be underrated needs more attention

[@atharvoak3445]

@@williamcurtis2145 This is why I said Indian movie, it saved the needed future discussions. 😂

[@MrJuan095]

Great video ! The funniest thing about the drama around joker back in 2019 when it was only talk from alot of people and news outlets saying the movie was going to create an uproar of chaotic violence. THE ONLY MOVIE that had a violent outcome that same year was frozen two. When the movie came out in the UK, in Birmingham, machete fights broke out between approximately 100 teenagers between the ages 13 - 16, only 5 were arrested, minor injuries.

[@JakkFrost1]

0:51 to me, sounds like "Hill-door Goona-dotter". I find it makes it a little easier to comprehend if you know that "dottir" is "daughter", so a last name with that is the female equivalent of, say, "Johnson", or "Olafson" if you wanna get more Nordic.

[@TooRudeProductions]

A lot of people think he killed the neighbor, but first of all the writer/director came out and said he didn't and also if he did do that they would've shown it because they haven't shied away from that kind of violence in this movie so why do it now? They were going to have a scene with her watching him on the Murray Franklin show but decided to keep it in Arthur's perspective, and like you said, he only kills people who are bad.

[@mattdekker5693]

id like to point out that because of his role as an unreliable narrator, He killed the guy that gave him a gun because he didnt remember that he actually asked for it instead of the guy just giving it to him and killed him because of a delusional memory that wasnt real. So he kills anyone he thinks has wronged him even if they didnt do anything.

[@MindOfGenius]

I feel like this movie is just all from Joker's mind. Two reasons: 1. The Killing Joke line [when talking about how he came to be]: "Sometimes I remember one way, sometimes another. If I had a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice!" 2. The "And Everyone Clapped" meme. To explain #2 briefly, the "And Everyone Clapped" meme is any story (usually in the 4chan >greentext< style) that starts out ordinary but gets slowly more and more unbelievable before ending with something totally unrealistic and the line "and everyone clapped". When you think about all the events in the story, *especially* when he shoots those guys and makes his escape, it just makes the events seem more and more unbelievable; How did he get away for so long? HOW did anyone know WHICH cop car the Joker was in? And it ends with LITERALLY EVERYONE CLAPPING (and then not to mention a psychiatric ward with NOBODY ELSE in it as he walks away scot-free). This movie is The Joker giving himself a "multiple choice" origin story ala Killing Joke.

[@Spidahjace316]

“You don’t always have to say something to be remembered”. That is a great statement. I would really like to hear ppl thoughts about it. Pls share

[@chasehedges6775]

Jaoquin Phoenix is a legend/treasure in this movie.

[@BenjaminSanchez-j9y]

All the comments he’s making all confirms joker 2 made sense and it was always the idea and vibe

[@reject2045]

I used to love watching cinema sins but watching cinema wins just peaks my curiosity more than seeing the negativity in a movie

[@sagemaster1357]

I honestly can't wait for Joker 2 because it's a musical and Harley Quinn is in it. It'll be like a Broadway musical about Joker and Harley.

[@whuuuut2035]

I like to think the ending is him after hearing about Thomas Wayne. A guy so confident that he punches a mentally ill person, a guy who lives behind guards and gates, a guy who refused to give Arthur a second of his time is just gunned down in a random act, and that Joe Chill (maybe, they don't really say here) may have been inspired, or at least felt like he was allowed to commit such an act, by him, is hilarious to him. Revenge even when incarcerated, revenge from afar.

[@digitaldragon101]

20:35 I always disagree with the idea of "Batman is beating up the mentally ill". He's fighting the criminally insane, people who are actively murdering and/or terrorizing the people of Gotham. He's not just randomly beating up people with depression or schizophrenia or anything like that, he goes after murderers. And even then, we see him try to redeem them, try to help them when he can.

[@paquio100]

Everyone I’ve ever seen parroting that talking point usually knows Batman from the Nolan movies and hasn’t read any comics

[@theflickchick9850]

Yeah, Batman The Animated Series really highlights how much Batman actually cares about the villains.

[@bakionigeri6414]

@@theflickchick9850 exactly! That's why its the definitive version. EACH VILLAIN bats has tried to save, change, or hell.... he even tried to convert the joker to HIS SIDE .(a joker and bat team up would be unstoppable)

[@rmsgrey]

@@bakionigeri6414 Harley Quinn even gets (almost) rehabilitated.

[@antoniodiavolo]

There’s a reason he puts them in Arkham rather than putting them in prison or killing them

[@isaiahvoss]

The movie is basically Taxi Driver but with a twist of we live in a society inside Arthur's mind. Taxi Driver and The King Of Comedy is the inspiration for the movie.

[@LostSoulSilver]

Except this is a good movie, and taxi driver is not

[@El-Gato69]

@@LostSoulSilver Quite the take. Explain if you don't mind.

[@norm-bb3bb]

@@LostSoulSilver Hot take, I personally love both movies

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

@@LostSoulSilver it's the other way around

[@johndong4754]

​@@LostSoulSilverI havent seen Taxi Driver but i thought Joker was terrible

[@MistaGify]

A great analysis overall! But I must disagree with the scene where Joker stands above his adoring fans. I never saw that scene as him finally being recognized and supported. Rather, that was where Arthur realized he would never find support or solace. Ordinary Gothamites didn’t care about him or each other, or making Gotham a better place. They wanted to be as vile and unstoppable as the rich and powerful. *They only loved Joker for having the balls to confess his crimes and then commit another one on live TV, with no interest in Arthur’s sob story.* Arthur smiling and dancing was tearfully subsuming himself into the Joker persona for good, not a moment of triumph but total defeat.

[@Just_a_snek]

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." + Joker = this movie

[@The_Dragonplayz]

i have watched this movie tens of times, but you STILL do a better job of understanding this then me. amazing movie, amazing video, amazing youtuber.

[@wet-read]

How many detractor understandings have you encountered?

[@The_Infamous_Boogyman]

I live with 6 different mental health issues, this is a great depiction of how others will never understand, or even try to. It hurts so much when you work hard to make 99% of your life as good as possible, and the 1% of the time you show your issues, that defines you. It's like hating a diabetic for having low blood sugar. It's so very painful and so very difficult.

[@AJARyan-yn2uv]

13:34 also note how the laughter is no longer painful for him. It’s probably the first thing he’s ever enjoyed in his life.

[@neilvarma]

I kinda love how ppl will call a film a complex masterpiece and then call the same film nonsense if it has views they don’t like

[@etienne-maelhofbeck6322]

I get the joke. The joke is that people try to understand the joker. People try to explain who he is. Nobody knows how the joker got his scars even when he tells us. The joker finds people funny because they project themselves onto him. And,well,it makes him think "well,this is funny enough,might as well tell them another joke (fake backstory) while the audience is still fresh. Oh hi,bat man !"

[@maxgrozema1093]

In the psych ward room the clock is stuck at 11:11. 11 is a number associated with madness, for example in dutch carnival, were people dress up. It is sort of saying that Joker is stuck in madness now.

[@naman-mishra]

i’m glad you praised the score so much, it’s so great

[@CanuckMonkey13]

I learned a little while ago that Hildur Guðnadóttir is my second cousin! (For those who don't know genealogy, we share common great-grandparents, her grandfather and my grandmother were brother and sister, etc.) I learned this after having seen Joker, and I already loved the score. Cool that she won an Oscar for it!

[@ghoost4308]

I totally believe it

[@Jim-Mc]

The director has emphasized that Arthur is a dysphoric narcissist. He blames EVERONE ELSE for his problems when in reality he makes nothing but bad decisions the whole movie.

[@A_Random_W33b]

That ending statement about the the commonality of critics and general audiences, and the thin line of master piece vs schlocky tryhard nonsense is dependent on how people feel about the movie and whether they decide to pick it apart objectively really resonated with me. The examples you provided just adds more to your point, and thank you for doing what you always do and trying to shine a positive perspective on film media in a landscape where emotionally loaded cynicism and pessimism is everywhere.

[@whiskeyinasippy4873]

I was a bit shocked when I saw the notification, I could've sworn you'd already done an EGA on Joker!

[@brunoonetti3865]

he did two years ago

[@beeblebuice]

he did! this is just a combination of the two parts :) prob in preparation for the sequel

[@Kkodii]

THIS : 21:52 - 23:20 ALL of this, SO much, can't be said enough, THANK you !

[@RazorO2Productions]

"I'm a dog chasing cars, I wouldn't even know what to do with one if I caught it, I'd just *do* things" That's the joker. Just a crazy sociopathic narcissist anarchist

[@THE0malley]

Depends on the version you're talking about...Ledger's version is a mix of multiple versions...as almost all the versions

[@RazorO2Productions]

@@THE0malley yet at his core he has no motive beyond sheer chaos. A point to which Arthur’s joker seems to follow

[@GiRR007]

Despite what he says ledgers joker very much did plan and skeem his way to success, and his speech about not doing that I think was just a way to make harvy go crazy and shift the blame to others in his mind.

[@RazorO2Productions]

@@GiRR007 True, but it still applies to the character of the joker as a whole, in the comics and in the newest iteration. Joker has no movement, no political motive, he's a anarchist that just took the opportunity to mesh into the movement. Ledger's Mister J might've not been really behind the quote, but it is a good one that encapsulates the character.

[@zashgekido5616]

@@GiRR007 Well, it was half truth half lie in a sense. The Joker is a very, very cunning person in most iterations, but at the end of the day he's doing it all for the sheer chaos of it, a destructive troll reveling in the misery of others because its fuckin hilarious to him

[@zombieslayer2016]

This movie is one of the very few that has a scene that makes me genuinely uncomfortable being the apartment murder something about the lack of music and how brutal it is while not going over the top genuinely had me speechless the first time I saw it

[@Jonathanest90s]

The cinematography, the music, and Joaquin Phoenix’s performance as Arthur Fleck really were the highlights of Joker in my opinion.

[@tylerrose3633]

Arthur didn't reload his gun normally, he activated the "infinite ammo" mod.

[@dont-hurt-me2519]

Here's a list of suggestions to consider for future EGA videos: -A Bug's Life -Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness -Chicken Run -Jurassic World: Dominion (Extended Cut) -Isle of Dogs -The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (Extended Cut) -The Iron Giant -Avatar -Atlantis: The Lost Empire -The Mandalorian

[@SFisher1993]

More I’d like to add: Die Hard With a Vengeance. Step Brothers. Broken Arrow. The Last Starfighter. Executive Decision. Armageddon. The Indiana Jones movies. Air Force One. Happy Gilmore.

[@sillygoosetaur]

THE PRINCESS BRIDE PLS

[@thereflex101]

Fuck it - I’ll throw Black Swan in there too

[@craigwilde2162]

Chicken Run or any other Aardman film would be great.

[@RazorO2Productions]

Prey

[@ScarletRedCrimson]

I personally love this movie, i felt seen in a strange way. Im a white scandinavian woman with mild autism, my country and its systems are far from real or fake america but it isnt perfect. I know what its like to be without anti depressants for extended times and the misery it entails...i once was in such a stressed situation involving an emotionally abusive friend that i started laughing out loud in a resturant in a foreign country out of pure stress. I also used to dance when no one looked to have a little bit of clarity when i was younger. I feel Arthurs frustration, the constant screaming for help untill you are too tired to whisper, the hope getting dashed and twisted, the lack of social understanding in some moments. Its painful and honestly laughter is one of the few none destructive ways to cope...laugh at your misery and you will have the company it loves.

[@min4161]

Could you do a video about the movie "Everything Everywhere All At Once"? It's such an amazing and impactful movie and it'd be awesome to see you go through it.

[@Flashback007]

Now I rewatched it, I get reminded I would love a Everything Great About Taxi Driver

[@christionpulliam9870]

Lowkey ofc you can see joker as a monster but in terms of comedic times , stage presence and ability to shock a room no body puts on a show like the joker and that’s jus a fact

[@Scott.E.H]

For what it's worth, even though you didn't really want to and you shouldn't have to, I'm glad you talked about and shot down all the "incel" and shootings nonsense that media was spewing out about this movie.

[@dellytancyl524]

As I listened to this amazing (near spectacular?) breakdown I realize that I could have written it because that's EXACTLY how i felt about this movie - with on exception, I've never seen Taxi Driver so the references didn't bother me as much.

[@DiMono]

You talk at the end about how every movie has its flaws. Reminiscent of the "No movie is without sin" tagline from Cinema Sins. The first few videos you made that I saw were for movies that Cinema Sins had also covered, so for the first few months I knew about you I actually thought you were a companion channel that was giving the other side of the story for those movies. Now I follow you and not them, because I agree with your tagline more: it's more fun to like things.

[@dekopuma]

"It's more fun to like things" is a wonderful philosophy to have

[@tonydurran8021]

As someone who just watch a few Cinemasins of movies I liked (and I enjoyed the cinemasins videos), and then watched the cinemawins of the same films, I can absolutely confirm the closing monologue here. Loved it. The whole thing.

[@TooRudeProductions]

It's funny that people think the Joker would be on the side of Nazis when there were literally two separate comics where he declares how much he hates Nazis

[@gabrielmalaguti5512]

There's plenty of people that have Punisher skulls that Frank Castle would have shot. Because sometimes (despite how much people complain about it) you have to beat people over the head with your symbolism.

[@bakionigeri6414]

And in one of them he shot Hitler (it was a time travel debacle story) joker said "even I'm not that bad/ evil/ I forget the last part of the quote.

[@dx5741]

the idea is that Joker hates everyone equally unlike Nazis.

[@daveagard1884]

This comment makes no sense

[@heintz256]

In my own opinion, if you change details of the story in a few spots you could almost see this as this joker being the inspiration for Heath Ledger's version.

[@Noodlesguitar]

The sad part is that people who have gotten stuff said and done to them like me can relate to joker, and in all honesty I burst into tears :(

[@megalunalexi5601]

I love the detail that for an entire scene before he's fully The Joker, he's in blank white facepaint. Before you've added any details, blank white is quite creepy looking, and I adore that they used that.

[@karistaylor2916]

May I recommend you do Ocean’s 11 (12, and 13)? I love all of your videos!💜 thank you for all the hard work and effort you put into your videos. You make me appreciate film even more.

[@antarcticarmour99]

I kinda hope that this is the joker in ‘The Batman’ universe Even though it probably won’t be

[@herbieponce3207]

No matter what has happened in the last 3 years...this film will reflects off of life itself that makes it powerful to watch for centuries❤🤡

[@Apfeljunge666]

Arkham Asylum does try to help and rehabilitate it's patients. It rarely works but in a lot of adaptations, there are doctors there who genuinely try.

[@marketamala1032]

You will take that Lord of the rings statement back, it´s 100% flawless film.

[@tp2487]

When i saw this in theatres it made me feel sick...like watching someone ruin their life for no reason. It didn't feel like the joker i knew it felt like a weak sick man who needed to be heard so it was time to end those around him. If your not going to listen then don't exist kind of feeling. Idk i just remember trying to look away alot especially his low moments.

[@DucNguyen0131]

We'll great! Do a EGA on Jurassic World: Dominion!

[@theawemazingcrew9702]

Man, that thing you said about people complaining about something in one movie and defending it in another being based on our emotions and how that's really what effects what movies we like is the truest thing I've heard in a while

[@jacobsierra4448]

Another week, and another day of asking: When will we see the Everything great about "Everything Everywhere All At Once" Until next week

[@datanotfoundpleasetryagain3559]

I'm honestly not sure how to interpret the second Joker film. It's gonna have Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn, and a long time ago I would've thought that was a terrible casting choice, but after A Star Is Born, I realize she's got some chops. The way I see it, the film will be an adaptation of the therapy sessions seen in Mad Love. It'll be that but the majority of the film will be set in the Arkham institution. Like One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, but the main character is as sane as the rest of the freaks. I also really hope they don't add anymore from the Batman mythos besides Harley, but if they do, make it VERY realistic. I hope they'll know what they'll do with Clayface is he's added in there.

[@williambryce4630]

Can't wait for Joker 2!!!

[@kimberleymorris8052]

@Cannons There is with Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn

[@williambryce4630]

​@Cannons No there is going to be another movie, look it up.

[@williambryce4630]

@Cannons What?

[@musicis1]

Fantastic as always. Could I request that you review the 1st 4 Batman movies ('66, '89, Returns, & Forever)?

[@jefe2112]

Another great video. Thank you for approaching this with honesty, and appreciation for art

[@orko714]

"He was just following a dust bunny" I'm fucking dead

[@burner680]

‘You have been warned’ I’m not sure I like your tone Lee 🤔😂😂 You’re normally so nice, that felt like my mother punishing me as a child 😂😂