Everything Wrong with WH40K's Vehicle Design: Space Marines

Delving into Warhammer 40K was challenging but refreshing at the same time. Thankfully, they do a good job of writing out the small details so you get a generally good idea of how these vehicles are supposed to perform. Since I did the Space Marines for this episode, at some point in the future I will do the Imperial Guard (since their tank designs are even more wacky), and then I'm not sure what to do after that.
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[@Spookston]

Just a few things I thought I would talk about: 1. I am aware that Dreadnoughts are basically new bodies for half-dead Space Marines, that's why I used the word "interred" to describe their placement within the machine. 2. The usage of "machine spirits" is incredibly vague. In some places it is described as something magical that is innately part of the machine, and in some cases it is described as, basically, a limited artificial intelligence. 3. The Land Raider does has a door at the front, but it does indeed have doors on the sides as well. 4. I know that Astartes have heightened reflexes and perception, but the point about work overload still stands. It's not like they have two heads, they can't scan the horizon for threats while looking down the scope to engage other ones. A gunner/commander team will always be more efficient than a single person.

[@liberator101]

Will you do the rest of the races?

[@louis2436]

This smells of heresy... Keep up the good work cock

[@AFinnGundam]

The DREADNSUGHT doors might open in the inside more like store doors but the might go inside.

[@owlman1053]

You have opened a massive fan can of worms with this fan base lmfao

[@finalpotato8229]

Some machine spirits may well be remnant AI but calling them that is the biggest nono in the setting.

[@Standenanian]

"... artificial intelligence..." *Adeptus Mechanicus would like to know your location*

[@abeherbert6603]

*Abominable Intelligence*

[@Alpostpone]

Machine spirit is totally not an AI, by Omnissiah!

[@popitrekker1543]

@@Alpostpone well it's not, a machine spirit results from the creation of a servitor

[@Sereze001]

MACHINE SPIRITS ARE JUST A FANCY NAME FOR MEN OF STONE! *gets gunned down by a mob of maddend tech-priests*

[@CM-db5cg]

@@popitrekker1543 dude that's wrong. Machine spirits occur even in shit that doesn't use servitors. Machine spirits are either: The Emperor/Machine God A creation of the faith of the Mechanicus, effectively functioning like the Eldar Gods/probabky how the Emperor is still going. The Void Dragon. Or even more likely a combo of all three.

[@finalpotato8229]

>Calls machine spirits AI. Thar be heresy.

[@aussieman4791]

*The Adeptus Mechanicus weaponizes Mars*

[@XtreemAlan]

Machine: *malfunctions* Me: oh I need to clean it a bi/ Mechanicest:*YOU’VE ANGERED THE MACHINE SPIRITS*

[@H240909]

The term machine spirit refers to the spiritual concept AND the limited AI humanity uses. It's just that the extremely superstitious citizens of the Imperium don't know the difference.

[@gameking1174]

Inquisitor: *drinks tea* i smell heresy

[@Selvanus]

H240909 It’s actually the Tech Priests of Mars who brought the concept over and they’re a very precise race and their methods work so there must be a ring of truth. And it’s not AI because whoever builds and anything does not put it there. It just *exists*. Every machine has a spirit. Don’t anger your oven

[@makeitrain280]

By the omnissiah if you call the machine spirit AI again I will throw this shoe at you.

[@XiYen]

Why does that shoe look like a melta bomb?

[@makeitrain280]

@@XiYen it is what is required for a just punishment against this techno-heresy.

[@magosexploratoradeon6409]

@@XiYen "melta bombs" as you call it is just A really good shoe.

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

@@makeitrain280 You fool! You absolute buffoon! You have desecrated the holy form of footwear-based thrown projectiles! By applying your technology and techno-mysticism to it, you have *decreased* its overall effectiveness! You must stick to the classic, simple form of a piece of polyvinyl chloride wielded for eons with great, traumatizing effects in the hands of Latino mothers. I speak of none other than LA CHANCLA! The ultimate form of disciplinary tools!

[@Tigershark_3082]

@@BrokenLifeCycle this made me laugh more than it should have, so Thanks for making my day

[@abyssalknight4081]

Didn't expect a tts scene as an intro.

[@petalthecryptid6109]

AY YAYA AY AYAYA

[@aussieman4791]

MY OILED ABS QUIVER IN EXCITEMENT

[@Cityinlead]

Abyssal Knight I really wanna know what episode he used too

[@razer666L]

@@Cityinlead Episode 7: _Fabulous Custodes_ *[aroused snickering]*

[@kabob0077]

@@razer666L *[Terrified Kitten noises]*

[@Tanblch]

This universe perfectly discribed with one sentence: ABANDON REASON, KNOW ONLY WAAAAAAR!!!!!!

[@XtreemAlan]

KNOW ONLY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

[@kronos661]

KAWAAAAAAAGHI

[@doombringer3498]

this universe is all about tactics.

[@three-bark1928]

EXCEPT WE SUCK AT WAR BECAUSE WE ABANDONED REASON

[@doombringer3498]

@murauder captain fearless solaris atheen you was abused by primaris, admech or tau?)

[@quintuple_lained]

"no trench warfare" the legions of krieg would pike to talk to you

[@frankg2790]

Spookston has obviously not read any of the lore.

[@LAV-III]

*ANGRY GAS MASK NOISES*

[@EzraeL91]

But infact the tanks of Krieg has some modification to make them better in trench warfare (and make you buy the even more expensive Forge World versions).

[@mrgbulldozer1384]

Krieg are dumb and have been ruined by normies

[@homelessswede9675]

Mr GBulldozer FINNALY SOMEONE SAID IT

[@vincenzoamiranda568]

Now I kind of want an "everything right with ork vehicles"

[@Jfk2Mr]

Well, for starters huge plus for their machine guns (or as they call it "Shoota"), as they never jam and work with whatever cartridge you have

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

does the temple gargant count?

[@jocosesonata]

I very much disagree with that statement. There is one *huge* flaw present in every Ork vehicle. It can never have enuff dakka.

[@user-hv6gi9ux6z]

@@jocosesonata enuff daka? Impossible..

[@jocosesonata]

Of course it's impossible. Which is why every Ork vehicle- actually, no! It's why _everything_ in W40k always has one *_huge_* flaw. It can never have enuff dakka. Sorry, but it's the truth. And this is why the universe of Warhammer 40k sucks... because it can never have enuff dakka.

[@flippedstug9517]

Of all universes, 40k has the most grounded and realistic official stats for the vehicles? That's something I didn't expect.

[@Ally5141]

It doesn't, there are stats but they are still f*cked up

[@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870]

Well if those tanks were supposed to be from WW2, maybe. The problem is that they aren't, and so we get tanks built by a galaxy spanning empire that are inferior to modern ones in most books. Now some being so shitty would make sense in the context of 40k, where blueprints can modify themselves depending on the resources of who is making the product and with many planets being extremely underdeveloped, but instead it seems like the vast majority of them are, regardless of the fact they came from a medieval world or Holy Terra itself. Still some fluff does buff the 40k tanks enough for them to be atleast comparable to modern ones. For example in one book a Leman Russ tank survives nearly unscathed a sideshot from an hypersonic 105 mm APHE, which also sent it flying for a few meters and likely killed the entire crew.

[@swolie]

Wait until he talks about the Baneblade.

[@v0x_zk7]

> Astraeus super heavy tank

[@Arctrooper2091]

There was a rulebook made same time back that gave stats for adamantine and ceramic armor. Unfortunately, the authors were clearly ignorant of actual tank armor, as the armor values come out to be pretty low by our standards. Similar thing happened in Star Wars. Some author gave stats for Durasteel thinking it was really impressive when in actually the numbers she gave would mean Durasteel is about equal to aluminum.

[@fallout0624]

(Angry Space Marine Nosies)

[@Szalami]

The noises I'm making right now.

[@rommdan2716]

*Angry Gay marine noises

[@combineeliteunit8769]

Rommel Daniel Vidal Sotto hey! We don’t talk about the pretty marines here.

[@Slith3rdLegion]

(Angry Techmarine Noises) *Angrier Mechanicus Screeching*

[@titanfallgamerwithnotitanf8187]

@@rommdan2716 10 year old joined the chat

[@DakkaDakka12]

A few tidbits bc ive been around the block a bit with 40k !!-in 40k any alterations to a STC design could result in execution of the perpetrator, some alterations have been accepted, but altering a design is a risky proposal unless the individual is of very high station.!! -because of this, some designs are flawed but never fixed, and some are modified on the battlefield because of a necessary fix but cannot be modified in the factory. In essence I think the Predator is basically a Bradley, tries to be capable of everything and ends up falling short in every category -pred's armor is thin because its based on a Rhino -if you think about the predator shares the most in common with the Bradley as a whole such as the height-length ratio Land Raider has a front hatch that is specially designed to promote assaulting from the tank right into combat, think a D-Day Higgins boat's drop door with grenade launchers to disorient enemy combatants before troops exit. because of the front hatch and other resources to assist infantry exiting while getting shot at, a turret would take up too much space in the tank for troops to exit out the front. Otherwise I look forward to when/if you review Imperial Guard designs as Guard has more vehicle designs than any other faction(Leman Russ battle tank has over 10 different variants and many other vehicles use the chassis as a core) Imperial Navy Aircraft are also very WWII inspired with some aircraft having very interesting designs.

[@vaelophisnyx9873]

I need someone to write an non-canon book about someone time-warping from now to then the help them unfuck their military designs

[@MrQuantumInc]

Having a door on the front means the enemy can shoot into the vehicle, killing troops before they even leave their seats. Any sort of Area-of-effect weapon with good aim would kill all of the passengers at once. The D-Day Higgins boats opened in the front because the front was the closest to the shore. Soldiers are vulnerable when walking through knee high water, so you minimize how far they have to go. The boats were not even fully enclosed, so they didn't provide cover anyway. On land it doesn't take that long to move around a tank. Of course they probably worry about cover less in WH40K than the real world. Space marine infantry are themselves armored, and the imperial guard often values aggression over cunning. The lore depicts the Imperium leaders as extremely conservative, aggressive, and fearful, and it seems these qualities seem to be a large part of why the Imperium is falling apart.

[@quentintin1]

​@@MrQuantumInc the land raider is more of a in-your-face kind of assault transport, get as close to the enemy as you can and unload the cargo of souped up murder machines right in the enemy's face.

[@MrQuantumInc]

​@@quentintin1 My point is that there are certain tactics that are more aggressive but less effective. I agree with you in that is how Imperials think, but my reading of the lore suggests that Games Workshop intentionally depicted humanity as choosing impractical and less effective strategies due to their extremely close-minded culture. A complete refusal to innovate being the best example. Though of course the Orks and Chaos are a more extreme example.

[@corneal35]

This, even when trying to make a modification it may not be green-lighted for years do to the teachings of the ad-mech .

[@schmeissergod]

You'd be surprised by the amount of trench warfare 40k gets into. Granted it's usually human on human.

[@Ally5141]

I still remember the Siege of Vraks

[@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870]

And Space Marines aren't supposed to get involved in it unless to break the stalemate, because who would waste the barely tens of millions strong super soldiers in such time-consuming endeavours when they have an entire galaxy to protect, right? Nobody would do such a thing, much less soecilizing two and an half entire legions in it...

[@bustowski]

@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 True its a matter of "cost to profit" Its way cheaper to send 100 k soldiers and lose them that to send 100 space marines and lose them.100 k soldiers its for the Imperium of men a niuans.But 100 marines oh boy oh boy its a full squad !!! The cost of them ... them Mark 10 armor , trening , operations , the use of gen seed and the tech that they use O_o Its far better to send the 100 k than lose them and to inform any of the myriad planets "Ej you YES you ... fuck you thats why and btw you have in this year a new funny plus tax of 100 k men !!! God day and you where lucky that i had a good day !!! I could fucking kill you , you family , your space dog and the planet !! Regard from Solar System !!!"

[@fatcatsnuggleparty4272]

Just send in the Kriegers. Cite "There's heresy over there."

[@Jcraft153]

or that one book that was human Vs orks

[@francesboy2]

You could milk the 40k series for its vehicles as there are so many, I mean even just looking at space marines you neglected to mention the new repulsor vehicles, as well as the land raider crusader and land speeder. If you want fresh content, the command and conquer series has some fun and wacky designs. If you're looking for a game with a more narrow set of vehicles, Planetside (2) would probably be perfect.

[@TheFranssiBrother]

I second Westwood' Command & Conquer series. Swell with Mammoth mk2's, Apocalypse tanks and remembering that Kane lives in death

[@903strikerunit]

*this is the overlord tank*

[@theemperorofmankind8082]

I agree especially the GLA veachiles like the marauder Tanks and the toxic tractors

[@TheDirtysouthfan]

Honestly the Repulsor is the opposite of what he says he likes about the tank designs. It's overly complicated, has way too many goddamn guns and doesn't really fit the army theme, at least the Repulsor Executioner doesn't. I like everything else about Primaris, EXCEPT the Repulsors, they really don't fit the Marine aesthetic.

[@derionone]

Repulsor is a Primaris Marines vehicle ...

[@highjumpstudios2384]

“And trench warfare died” Iran Iraq war: Am I a joke to you?

[@JsphCrrll]

It didn't last long at very fucking all during the iraq war. Infact, I'd say the trenches are where they fucked up.

[@fullsalvo2483]

Main troop door on the land raider is in the front brother.

[@Spookston]

Well, that's pretty embarrassing. In my defense, none of my reference material actually showed where the door was, I thought that bit at the front was some sort of self-entrenchment device. In terms of protection, having it at the front might be even worse than having it at the sides, but at least then it wouldn't block the guns.

[@davidjones4364]

@@Spookston he's thinking of a mastadon look it up it's actually a monster of a troop transport

[@fullsalvo2483]

@@Spookston another thing is, when you build the model, you can put the twin lascannon sponsons in the forward door opening, so the marines would come out behind the sponsons. As for the armor, its 40k years from now. Who knows how strong a land raiders armor is. That's the great thing about 40k. It all obviously bullshit lol. Its great

[@fullsalvo2483]

@@Spookston an interesting variation of the land raider is the Achilles, if you're at all interested in them

[@x3tc1]

@@Spookston Well the troops usually carried by Land Raiders are Terminators which are wearing armour thats equal to tank armour.

[@Sir_knight_trooper]

The dreadnught is basically a wheel chair of death

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

The dreadnaught of wheelchairs. The harbinger of parapalegics.

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Hellsong89]

Sure whit feet and heavy arsenal of weaponry.. well now i know what i want when i get old..

[@Jcraft153]

your comment is wrong on so many levels and I love it.

[@mikeyfisher4256]

Someone needs to create a wheelchair dreadnaught now

[@collinmanning8334]

" seem pretty grounded in reality" ...... Orc: RED ONEZ GOEZ FASTAH

[@BIGESTblade]

TBH red things really tend to be real fast IRL.

[@hartianx1698]

Those are Orks so reality means jack shit when they're involved.

[@nichsa8984]

@@BIGESTblade yes suit fan made of future advanced tech too good

[@Samantha-jv6xu]

@@hartianx1698 And yet in the Imperium, you have flying space cathedrals of death and walking catholic church titans of death, in fact look at the mechanical augmentations of the mechanicus and tell me if thats "realistic" most notably Belisarius Cawl.... Just look at that dude!

[@RCMPGuythunder]

“4 heavy bolters seem inadequate” SILENCE HERITIC!

[@jocosesonata]

It is, in fact, inadequate. Why have 4, when you can have 8? Think of all the heretics you miss out on when you just have 4.

[@Generic_Noob]

Jocose Sonata why not have 16? The more the better!

[@Generic_Noob]

Jocose Sonata heck, WHY NOT HAVE 360, 1 BOLTER FOR EACH DEGREE

[@Cheesemeister379]

@@Generic_Noob that is power that makes dorn happy. Not my primarch but dorn.

[@spartanx9293]

@@jocosesonata you need bigger guns not more

[@pauldaly100]

I seriously hope spooks gets around to necrons. Imagine him looking at the monolith “You could reduce the hull height a little to present a smaller target.”

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

well, bad luck when the thing WENT FLYING

[@kristiankho]

"This Daemon Engine has too many moving parts with no clear AI components to control its movements"

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

"This looted tank has no engine or other means of power, no fuel line, and the canon has no way to load ammunition, much less fire it. And yet it still works. I would reccomend actually adding those things."

[@Tabledar]

You can't really review a Necron/Eldar/Chaos Demon vehicle the same way. No way to tell what the internals are like, how they're powered, why they need to look the way they look. They're enigmatic engines. At least Space Marine vehicles have schematics and some form of grounding in reality to relate to real world examples.

[@kristiankho]

@@Tabledar Adeptus techpriest: "hold my codex"

[@malomalovids]

You made a mistake. The Imperium doesn't use AI any more. You know how Servitors and over "Servo" machines look like people? That's because they are people - obviously. They're lobotomized individuals whose punishment extends long past their natural lifespan, used as tools for the war machine and industry. Many of the Imperium's vehicles rely on (Tactical) Cogitators - processors made from living brains - in order to operate their unmanned weaponry. As for the tall silhouette of the tank - we're not talking about tanks operated by humans where the vehicle can be as short as 6'. We're talking about tanks operated by the fullest 8'-12' tall 300+lb mutant supersoldiers you could ask for.

[@smokestack3327]

malomalovids ahem to quote Soylent green THEY’RE PEOPLLEEEEE!!!!

[@kabob0077]

8 Feet isn't even the tallest a normal stock Space Marine can be, have you SEEN some of the Primarchs and their Legions?

[@bustowski]

They use AI that the tech basis is organic dosen,t mean that there is no program at all.The Servitors are no people ... they where people.Only some lines of vehicles have in 40 K cogitators.I the 40 K its hi-tech and i mean HIHIHIHI-tech to use a cogitator at a vehicle.And it dosent matter how big a space marine are.The armor at the predator is shit even at today standards.The Land Rider is a diverent beast.Land Riders have energy armor in some way.So we can take a Land Rider as a troop-carrier / gun platform.I love the 40 K game and have 2 armies but it dosent mean that i don't see the idiocy in some construction plans of the vehicles.Rigit armor ... really ... The problem is that the vehicles where created by dudes who had no knowledge what so ever in this topic.The only thing what they wanted was that they look cool.

[@blaster23456]

Dear Man-Emperor I forgot about that. I keep forgetting that 40k is just all sorts of fucked up, and yet I love it.

[@OmegaEnvych]

Peter Bustek Well, 40k is a space fantasy game. So it's more of being cool rather than being realistic

[@DogmeatDied989]

“Armies in Warhammer 40k are expensive, and a player may only be able to afford one tank in his army.” This is my favorite joke in the video :)

[@michaelkeha]

Yeah I mean my IG which isn't all that tank heavy has 12

[@Jcraft153]

hah, i have 3 tanks!

[@queencyrys6309]

michaelkeha like, i play nids. My tanks are Carnifexes, and i’ve got like 7 plus old one eye

[@Jcraft153]

@starshipeleven just to point out I'm not a rich person. I bought one tank of eBay and the other two over many years of playing 40k.

[@chrisv9866]

5 tanks and a Baneblade I magnetized to be in any configuration I need

[@scottland8698]

Trench warfare isn’t that big *HEAVY GAS MASK BREATHING* But otherwise not a bad analysis for what I assume to be a newcomer One note is that every machine has a machine spirit, it’s power just a depends on stuff, like how old it is. from what I’ve read at least, machines that have a spirit range from a las rifle or pair of electronic binoculars to baneblade super heavy tanks and warships, Ps: if your gonna do a video on the imperial guards tank I recommend reading the book baneblade, gives a good rundown on the tanks interiors and systems, crew positions etc, and was like 10 bucks On amazon when I got it

[@Aconspiracyofravens1]

1:46 yeah the death corp should depicted in this picture(instead of a Cadian)

[@KillerOrca]

Baneblade is fucking amazing.

[@DeathKorpsLt-]

*sharpens shovel with malicious intent*

[@jasperlim8319]

@@Aconspiracyofravens1 Isnt the thing with the Death Korps though that they have their own set of vehicles?

[@FinALIEN93]

@@jasperlim8319 Well, they use some older guard stuff, like salamander, but mostly they use same Russ's other guard do, but with some extra armor panels. Also theres the infamous Gorgon. Krieg favors self propelled/towed artillery more than vehicles.

[@minecraftah]

Only one criticism on this; 'Machine Spirits' are not another term for AI. AI is it's own beast, able to end up going rogue or be corrupted by Chaos worrying quickly. Machine Spirits are essentially actual Spirits that inhabit things to run them. Usually rather basic, but much harder to corrupt. They fulfil the same role, but avoid anti-AI laws that are in place to stop another Man of Iron incident, where AI went rogue across the Imperium and damn near flattened it.

[@northropi2027]

I'm not particularly versed in 40K but I thought machine spirits were just lesser AI and the view of them as something intrinsic to machines, like an actual spirit, a manifestation of the Omnissiah or whatever, was just Mechanicus dogma? The sources I've read often made a point out of the irony of this, granted I've really only read the wiki. The older AIs that fell to Chaos were probably a good deal closer to conscious thought but machine spirits are still AI in the less-than-Astro Boy sense, I figured? Not supernatural, at least.

[@Damo2690]

@@northropi2027 Yeah they're like if you strip the higher functions of a human brain so that only breathing/heart etc work. Your body will still flinch and pain, so when these "machine spirits" are in combat their version of flinching is shooting its guns at something.

[@egor6849]

Northropi there is no definitive answer about machine spirit in the lore, but how it is created suggests that it is to some extend supernatural. Unlike AI or combat programs of mechanicus automatons machine spirit is not programmed, but rather appears during the ritual after the construction of a new vehicle or weapon. During this ritual mechanicus bless the machine and, if all goes right, it gets machine spirit.

[@TomorrowWeLive]

I always though "machine spirits" didn't actually exist and were just superstitious fantasies invented by the Mechanicus to explain the capricious behaviour of the Imperium's malfunctioning ancient tech. Just another way of highlighting the absurd irrationality and obscurantism of the Imperium.

[@Phenixtri]

Machine spirits are literal spirits that live in the machine ..... Why you ask? Because in Warhammer 40k religious belief is also literally reflected in reality ..... if enough ppl belive something to be one way or the other then beyond the shadow of a doubt the warp will make it a physical reality in real space. The tech. priests of mars have over 10,000 years propagated the universal belief in said machine spirits into almost every imaginable technological faccet of the IoM to the point that yes machine spirits become an actually thing in reality ..... So much so that the people of the Imperium would look at out modern world with a mixture of confusion and likely contempt...... basically the same way we look at the 40k universe as absurd is the same way more or less they would be thinking of us ..... as in to them we are utterly absurd to the extreem.

[@Ralleigh]

"Artificial Intelligence" *Angry Tech Priest Noises*

[@flashgordonsthemesong2838]

Ah yes, another loyal servant of the Imperium is brought into the WH40K cul- I mean, fold. Welcome to the club. Enjoy your stay.

[@thomaswilson8022]

@Ross Kuehl-Martin or corrupt him in the name of khorne

[@kabob0077]

@@thomaswilson8022 Whatever we do, we must keep those filthy Tau and fucking Dark Eldar away...

[@adas3497]

@@kabob0077 agreed

[@Cheesemeister379]

You werent going to say cult.....right? That....that would be heresy you know....right? I dont have to purge you....right

[@Cheesemeister379]

@@thomaswilson8022 you fucking heretic! Burn in holy fire! Or what ever raven guard use i cont think of something

[@nicholaswalsh4462]

There are a lot of things that exist in 40k that really don't make sense. AI doesn't exist in the Imperium because it doesn't mean Artificial Intelligence. It means Abominable Intelligence because it always tries to murder organics. Maintenance isn't treated like it is in modern militaries. Technology is viewed with a religious superstition and all manufacturing and maintenance is done by a tech priesthood called the Mechanicus. Simply tensioning the track would involve incense, prayers, and likely a choir singing the praises of the God-Emperor and the Omnissiah. Overall, the technology is somewhat recessed due to the aforementioned superstitions around technology and thousands of years to craziness and war. Space Marines are also effectively invulnerable to common small arms, as they are completely encased in powered armor that is made from similar materials to that of the Predator. There are also a number of threats that have no ballistic weapons, such as some Ork tribes and many Tyranid breeds. As you said at the start of the video, 40k is a dense and incredibly diverse universe. The Imperium, the Eldar, Chaos, the Orks, the Tau, the Tyranids, and the Necrons all have different ways of fighting war and different cultural traits impacting their design and operation.

[@caav56]

>It means Abominable Intelligence because it always tries to murder organics Original Kaban Machine (before corruption) and UR-025 don't agree with you in that, and neither do Speranza or Tau drones.

[@nicholaswalsh4462]

@@caav56 So you have three examples to prove your case (The Tau drones might change their opinions if the Tau evolve a major psychic presence). I therefore judge you guilty of heresy and declare you excommunicatus traitoris. You and your entire world shall be destroyed to prevent the spread of your heretical teachings. The Emperor Protects.

[@caav56]

@@nicholaswalsh4462 My world is Holy Terra/Old Earth, though. Good luck.

[@stylesrj]

Tensioning the track would involve the use of sacred lubricant anointed to the joints of the machine, followed by applying the holy tools of guidance to the requisite sigils raised... Then you must keep vigil over these sigils as they are removed and anointed in a separate solution while the tool is used on a new group of the Omnissiah's creations... then once the Ritual of Tensioning is complete, as mandated by the Rituals of Maintenance, you put those sigils back on with the holy tools, more anointing oils and a praise to the Omnissiah for making such a machine. In short, maintenance is done with as much care as we'd do it IRL but with a bit more singing and prayer. Don't talk to the Techpriests though about the Imperial Guard's Field Manuals (or whatever they're called)... those are heretical texts that spoil the sacred machine and displease the machine spirits greatly...

[@nicholaswalsh4462]

@@stylesrj don't forget that it MUST be done by an Adeptus Mechanicus Techpriest or suitably trained simulacrum. This cannot be done by the crew. All maintenance must be done in accordance to the Omnissiah's wishes and with proper care and respect shown to the Machine Spirit.

[@Mrcookieonyt]

>implying a space marine would be overwhelmed by something like having to be a commander and gunner.

[@ThetaRho-]

They would be. Leave vehicle multitasking to the mechanicus and their skitarii legions.

[@TheOsiris371]

@@ThetaRho- The Codex Astartes does not support the act of being "overwhelmed" when there is killing to be done.

[@murican4813]

The Warhammer 40k vehicles are just a Maus and Char B1 Hybrid

[@fulcrum2951]

Yes

[@evalpenguin8797]

don't forget the health dose cathedral thrown in there

[@jaqdraco]

Spookston: Everything wrong with Warham... ChapterMasterValrak: Allow me to introduce you to the Emperors Guiding light we call The rule of cool...

[@hainleysimpson1507]

Still wrong and stupid. Rule of cool is Empires go extinct.

[@HolyknightVader999]

The Death Star was predicated on Rule of Cool. It didn't save Grand Moff Tarkin's life when Luke Skywalker destroyed it.

[@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870]

2:38 Now it is important to remember that the 41rst millennium Imperium is basically living in a double Dark Age. After the Age of Strife ended the Dark Age of Technogy (basically the Golden Era of humanity) by making FTL travel near impossible, most human technique and history was lost, and this was repeated but three centuries after the millennia-long Age of Strife ended with the Horus Heresy, which started the long decline (as in from M31 to M41) of the Imperium of Mankind. Only in the more modern fluff have things started to get better after some of "the good guys" decided to get their shit together and stopped momentarily shooting each other to deal with the bigger threats (like the fact the galaxy was literally sawed in half).

[@smokestack3327]

The First Primaris Cato Sicarius the golden era was the golden age of technology that was ended by their war with the men of iron which was the event that kicked off the dark of technology.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

what happens before HH is the Great Crusade, not the Age of Strife

[@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 I know that, but the Great Crusade was certainly not a Dark Age and I wanted only to explain that.

[@warsmithandrath449]

On the 'riveted armor', the Imperium uses a sub-atomic (I think) bonding process that fuses materials together during construction of just about anything, from habitation blocks to armor. Rivets are used to hold the pieces together while this is going on and often are left behind rather than removed when its done.

[@kurisu7885]

The Dreadnought is technically a cyborg, as the machine becomes the body of a fallen space marine

[@LAV-III]

0:49 to be fair who said maintenance was even easy in 40k. A third of it literally just involves praying

[@stylesrj]

Honestly, I always saw it as "It's how you'd do it IRL but with a bit more religious nonsense tacked on it." Like the Rituals of Maintenance are "Apply the holy tool to the sigils on the side and apply the anointing oils to the cogs" which is pretty much saying "Use the spanner on the bolts and give it some oil"

[@ospreyv1890]

I say take your time to review all the vehicles available in Warhammer rather than just fit them in one video

[@arturs3696]

Reason is gay Big gun is great

[@smeminem1258]

The virgin reason vs the chad dakka

[@rommdan2716]

WROOOOOONG!!!!!

[@Fighterpilot555]

@@smeminem1258 ABANDON REASON! KNOW ONLY GUNS!!!

[@NguyenMinh-vs1vm]

MOAR DAKKA!!!!!

[@Fighterpilot555]

@@NguyenMinh-vs1vm SUFFER NOT THE GREENSKIN TO LIVE!!

[@sirsoggypants8744]

The dreadnought "pilot" is not limited to just the viewing port, he also has sensors(red circles on the in game model) connected to the machine spirit that he has become one with

[@Jcraft153]

yeah, he did kinda ignore the obvious lenses all over the front of the dreadnaught chassis.

[@Captain1nsaneo]

@@Jcraft153 Those could have been mistaken for smoke grenade launchers. But I basically came to the comments section to say what Sirsoggypants said.

[@thomasp506]

Yeah, I recall it being stated in the codices that Dreadnoughts basically have full 360-degree vision thanks to omni-directional sensors built into the mech. I doubt the interred Space Marine would even use his own eyes to see at all.

[@Jestokost]

Remember that the crew members of space marine vehicles are wearing armor that can tank an artillery shell. They don’t need blowout panels in their tanks, they’re _wearing_ them. Same thing probably applies for the risks of spalling and rivet shrapnel, come to think of it.

[@NexusWarior211]

That's even worse, imagine blowing millions of credits and resources on creating this super soldier only to chuck him inside a box. What the fuck is the point?

[@walkerfilms6917]

dreadnoughts walk through obstacles

[@Cheesemeister379]

They are the obstacle

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

Spookston: "Trench warfare is not as prolific in wh40k as one would assume" Kriegsman: *confused gasmask screeching*

[@mikaelantonkurki]

Intrestin note. Those might not be rivets but they maybe molechular bonding studs. Which as the name implies bond the molechules of two seperate armor plates for example. The Mark 5 space marine power armor 'heresy armor' was known for this feature.

[@TARINunit9]

"The [Predator] turret looks like it can't depress at all to me" Yeah there's some ambiguity unless you own the physical plastic model. The turret itself doesn't depress, but the gun barrel totally can

[@BaDArxz]

Could we look at Valkyria Chronicles tanks?

[@Nomadic_Inquisitor]

This was the comment I was looking for.

[@bobmartin9918]

*SLAANESHI CULTIST DETECTED*

[@shawnosborne7102]

To be fair the edelweiss is just a panzer 4 panther mashup and the hafen is just Sherman jumbo firefly mix and the imperial tanks are just sovit german design mash ups

[@Skynightburst]

YES THANK YOU , AWESOME GAME, ONE OF MY FAVORITES

[@RinIsArty]

Just remember, if you're doing Orc designs, they're powerful Psykers, if they *think* something works, it will work, even if it shouldn't.

[@shawnosborne7102]

The orkz boyz rolling up in a half melted tank with a distoryed gun

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

IZ ORKZ YA ZOG NOT SOME FALLEN-KNIFE EAR GIT

[@fatcatsnuggleparty4272]

@@shawnosborne7102 And some ork boyz in a looted tank... ..With no engine, execpt a piece of paper that said "vroom vroom"

[@RinIsArty]

@@JennyGormanRitter I don't remember that one, where was it? also, I defend my misspelling of ork by officially blaming it on autocorrupt.

[@JennyGormanRitter]

@@RinIsArty I had a buddy tell me about it when I was first getting into 40k a couple years ago so I don't have a direct source unfortunately

[@Tracer_Krieg]

I imagine the Imperial Guard video would take easily 20 minutes, considering the vast number of variants for the Leman Russ and Baneblade.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

don't forget other things like macharius, malcador, medusa, griffon, hydra, and so on

[@kabob0077]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 And the Basilisk variants...

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

@@kabob0077 It's more of a dedicated artillery piece but it may get ini. There's a space marine legion version too tho.

[@kabob0077]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 Have you seen the Armageddon variant? It's like a fucking Stug.

[@stylesrj]

Leman Russ: Well apparently it's a tractor with guns on it and not really a tank. Still, I wonder what the crops must have been like to require such a heavy machine... *insert Catachan? IG soldier*

[@IsAcRafT]

Tanks of the Imperium: *Exist* Perturabo and the Iron Warriors traitor Legion: we gonna ruin this guy's whole career.

[@nichsulol4844]

that tank cannon on heavy lifting arm

[@AN-rj6kh]

5:46 from what I understand, the space marine has his nervous system connected directly to the machine, allowing him to use the cameras as his own eyes and thus making the viewport useless and a open target

[@spacehitler4537]

First good luck hitting that, and it's likely incredibly thick resistant glass. Since usually the dreadnought frame can be destroyed, but the battle brother's sarcophagus is often retrievable.

[@AN-rj6kh]

True

[@ВасилийМорозов-л7х]

Actually, this seems to be the thing with the tanks. I remember reading something about the black carapace connecting with the tank's cogitators.

[@SpanishDio]

I think the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicum won't be happy after seeing your video. May the Omnissiah protect you from their mechanical wrath!

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

*Mechanicus The Mechanicum is long gone since Kelbor-Hal

[@GiskardRevenlov]

"Trench warfare is not as prolific in 40k as one would assume" *Angry muffled krieg noises

[@Cheesemeister379]

Fixes bayonet with malicious intent

[@icedog55puck74]

Banblades are more the main battle tanks/ anti everything

[@Szalami]

Those would be the Leman Russes. Baneblades are specialty vehicles because they are ancient relics that can't be produced anymore.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

@@Szalami well except for the Dark Age of Technology where the Baneblades are 'light battle tanks'

[@AlphariusPrimarchoftheXXLegion]

@@Szalami they can be still produced just not on every forgeworld. We even know that every Bane blade produced receives a special name which is kept in the records of the respective Forgeworld

[@icedog55puck74]

@@Szalami i know that but they were made as a main battle tank. if the usa forgot how to make tanks that dose not mean the one that are left are still not main battle tanks.

[@dezthedapper1181]

@@icedog55puck74 If the USA forgot how to make the tanks better than their main battle tank, that would relegate their main to a heavy.

[@kalumschroeder678]

loved the video! just thought i should say "Dreadnoughts are often mistaken by mortal observers for huge suits of battle armour or robots; they are similar to both and yet neither. Dreadnoughts are a combination of armoured walker and cybernetic life-support system; their pilots are neurally linked straight into the Dreadnought's cybernetic systems, and are able to use the walker as if it were their own body, although they are permanently entombed within its Ceramite skin until they are destroyed." warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Dreadnought

[@ANDREALEONE95]

Good video but a few clarifications are needed: 1) Don't confuse the game meta with the lore. In the lore SM chapters have a more or less a large number of tanks whose number vary according to several factors, including their strategies and the fact that some of them are made in an almost artisanal way due the AdMech dogmas on technology. 2) The metals and alloys whom armor are made are stronger than present-day ones, so make them very thicker than you think - especially with Adamantium. 3) Land Raider main hatch is in the front of the tank, which is still a bad choice unless is considered that they carry post-human monk-warriors with power armours or even Terminator Armors which turned into living tanks and all of them can withstand heavy fire far better than a standard IG soldier. 4) Dreads are nothing more than walkers driven by an almost dead SM attached to a life-support system in the form of a coffin, so the 360° cameras would not be so useful. 5) Keep in mind point 1 and 2 for the next video about Imperial Tanks. Also don't make questions about Orks design because they literally built them from scraps, using their weird powers.

[@Cheezymuffin.]

ANDREALEONE95 orks be like Rocket with yellow tip makes Bigga boom! Why? BECAUSE IT DOES! Da bois said so.

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

why do you have to spell 'thick' like that

[@chrisadams1814]

I laughed when he mentioned that armies are expensive so someone might only have one tank. Free Predators free land readers of different types a fellblade a smattering of support vehicles on the Rhino chassis. And I still don't have as many times as my guard friend.

[@liamfarsi5964]

By emperor! It’s finally here

[@punishedrev9533]

Land Raider has an assault ramp on the from fam, a drop ramp like a landing craft

[@greenmario3011]

They don't have AI. Nobody in the imperium is able or willing to build AI. You could sorta argue that the machine spirits of some *ancient* weapons are AI but nowadays it would not be possible for the admech to make AI even if they were willing to do so. Their complete inability to build AI is the whole reason they keep putting human brains in things as processors. Also I have no idea how you were able to come up with RHA strength estimates for materials which are entirely fictional.

[@FlintTD]

He's probably pulling armor strengths from Lexicanum, who themselves are probably pulling from either Black Library or old Forge World Imperial Armor books. The Machine Spirit is an interesting idea in 40k, because it both could and could not exist as a spiritual entity (depending on the writer and the intent of the piece of lore). Additionally, the AdMech do still make some "dumb" AI, e.g. totally unlearning synthetic crystal computers which are imprinted with the neurological patterns of dogs, to act as IFF and targeting computers for security systems in upper-hive mansions.

[@brandonlilly5739]

Machine spirits are AI, just very limited, dumb AI. Humanity’s technology was so advanced by the time of the age of strife that damn near everything had an AI, but AI the only AI that is considered dangerous is the smart AI that can think for itself like the men of iron.

[@wesallen3916]

@@brandonlilly5739 Machine spirits are not AI, all artificial intelligence is considered a threat to the imperium. Machine spirits are incarnations of the will of both the machine and it's crew. These can be twisted by Chaos and turned into the tanks and machines that the chaos army uses, which often do not require crew.

[@greenmario3011]

@@brandonlilly5739 Machine spirits are possibly AI and their are some cases where that explanation makes sense but their are also accounts of weapons doing things which would be impossible if it were simply a mundane AI like moving and firing with no power source. Imo the two best explanations for machine spirits are that it's the result of the collective warp presence of the entire Admech or that it's the void dragon of mars who is possibly also the omnissiah.

[@FlintTD]

@@greenmario3011 The real answer here is that the machine spirits are all of the options. The AdMech believe in machine spirits because they observe machines behaving as if they have a will of their own. If you have worked O complicated machines like cars or computers, you might feel as though this is the case. That's the feeling at inspired the concept of "machine spirits" in 40k's writers. Sometimes machine spirits are AI, built knowingly or not into complicated machines. Sometimes machine spirits are literally warp-related, either machines so venerated they develop souls or so plagued by chaos they become infested with a daemon. Sometimes machine spirits are literally just superstitious nonsense brewed up to explain to acolytes and guardsmen why a complicated cleaning process is necessary to make their laser rifles work. And last but not least, sometimes a machine is just temperamental, and an upset machine spirit is just a simple humanization of why this fucking engine won't start, god damnit, fuck my life.

[@mrwehraboo5478]

What in the hot crispy kentucky fried frick are these tanks?

[@stylesrj]

@@Peter_Turbo4 The cowards! The fewls!

[@nichsulol4844]

@@Peter_Turbo4 function not add hot temp room

[@regiluthfi]

Criticizing emperor's warmachine is a sign of weakness. Doubt begets heresy, please talk to nearest inquisitor.

[@Echelon030]

The Imperium's tanks are mostly adapted from tractors and other utility vehicles from the long-distant past, because the Adeptus Mechanicus is extremely reticent about developing new designs (arguably with good reason) and greatly prefer to use Standard Template Construct patterns with minimal, if any modifications. In other words the Imperium is using the far-future equivalent of Bob Semple Tanks.

[@homelessswede9675]

Do the imperial guard or say Bye Bye to your kneecaps

[@davidjones4364]

I need the BANEBLADE

[@The_Crimson_Fucker]

*Driver, take me closer - I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD!*

[@dariocardaci1340]

Good video. Although technically there isn't a marine inside of a Dreadnaugh, not a normal one at least. Critically wounded marines could receive the honor of being literally intombed in an armoured sarcophagus and then lowered in a Dreadnaugh. Then they would be neurally linked to the Dreadnaugh's Machine Spirit itself, hence there is no need for conventional vision sleets/periscopes. The sleet you can see on fhe Castraferrum Pattern is an external camera, and there are a plethora of other sensors all around the machine

[@radiationpony8449]

I agree the predator isnt the best design and it seems most of the issues stem from it sharing the same chassis of other space marine vehicles namely the Rino APC. This was for simplification in pre-imperium eras but the Imperium is stuck with them due to a reliance on STC (Standered Template Constructs) basically the Imperium knows how to make the factories that make the tank but dont have a full understanding of how to make the tank itself. The Machine Spirit is more of an animalistic emotion emulator that what one would consider a normal A.I. they can stop the vehicle from working if not appeased but only the strongest (namely land raiders) can control weapons. the Imperium Bans full A.I. as they consistently go rogue and attempt to wipe out humanity. I would've liked to see you cover the other Rino variants as well, Rino, Vindicator, Razorback, Whealrwind, Stalker and Hunter

[@stylesrj]

Rhinos? Rhinos? Why would there need to be more coverage on those metal bawkses?

[@nichsulol4844]

@Ross Kuehl-Martin in a covered a driver thing and no effect robotic decide escaping from fire broken tank

[@bobmartin9918]

I can't wait to see a video that goes over THE ALMIGHTY BEHNBLAAADE

[@knyte_]

Whoa didn't expected a JoJo reference in a video of Tank analysis in a fictional game

[@davidjones4364]

It's from if the emperor had a text to speech device episode 7

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

it's not of his making

[@Happy-zg4zd]

One recommendation, Could you make a Everything wrong , but with necron vehicles, because they are very unique , it can be very fun

[@wesallen3916]

AI are considered taboo in the 40k universe. Machine spirits are literal incarnations of the machine's will, and allow vehicles to survive unholy amounts of damage, as well as heal the vehicle and improve it's combat efficiency. It is not unheard of for a tank to survive direct shots and continue operating even though all of it's crew were killed in the blast.

[@andilucas6926]

Looking at my 1980s Rogue Trader era Land Raider, I see that it has much better ground clearance, and the side doors are *behind* the side weapon mounts where they ought to be. So when they redesigned it in the 90s they actually made it sillier (apart from putting the previously unprotected side guns into proper armoured sponsons)! :)

[@alexanderson3847]

Space Marine ground vehicles are mainly made from Plasteel or some metal equivalent that's available, ceramite on the outside and adamantium on the interior.

[@alexboehm3919]

That was the best possible intro to this video 👍

[@johnkapwn]

I mean, Machine Spirits aren't a thing that's added, Machine Spirits are an innate thing in everything mechanical. Bolters can have machine Spirits, Space Marine Armour can have machine spirits. It's not a thing that gets added, it's a thing that just exists. Marines also have reaction times measured in thousands of seconds, and situational awareness on par with a computer, not to mention the fact that they're all data linked together adding to their situational awareness. The vehicles themselves are also made out of a material called Ceramite and Adamantium (Which cannot be reforged after being forged because it gets that strong) so while the armour may appear thinner, it'd take a railway gun to put a hole in it. I mean the Las Guns carried by the Imperial Guard have the stopping power better than that of .50 BMG HEIAP Rounds, and those still struggle to tickle things in this universe. Also AI is heretical in this universe and is only practiced by the dark mechanicum. Also dreadnoughts are commonly permanently installed in the body, with the sensor suite being directly linked into their brain. so they can see everything going on around them, whilst also being datalinked to all the marines and vehicles around them. The closest thing to AI are servitors who act as "AI". Overall a good attempt, considering that learning about 40K is like knowing the names and locations of each brick in the Great Wall of China...

[@devynd6476]

Ross Kuehl-Martin Maybe he's from that cursed planet of cat-people to which the Imperium has, for some reason, not deemed a horrid mutation deserving of a Black Templar side-stop.

[@hedgehog3180]

I mean didn't he account pretty well for how strong the armor is and it's just not very impressive compared to modern composite armors? Like .50 BMG is not really that impressive, sure that sounds like a big gun but it kinda has nothing compared to a Rheinmetall 120 mm firing a hyper sonic tungsten or uranium long rod APFSDS round. Like that kinda round is also nothing to a modern tank even if it's classed as anti-material but that means it's for lightly armored targets not MBTs.

[@johnkapwn]

@@hedgehog3180 I'm talking about the handheld standard issue Las Rifle used by the normal grunt humans in Guard. The Lascannon could vaporize a massive watermelon sized hole through you and 100 other people behind you and still have the penetrating power to go straight through a modern tank.

[@groundmasterc]

Machine Spirits aren't literal spirits. The term just refers to the inner works of various things. Pleasing the Machine Spirit of a Boltgun for instance could be regularly cleaning and lubricating it so it continues to work.

[@nichsulol4844]

@Ross Kuehl-Martin if AI show logical photo make think hard

[@mattwho81]

Belisarius Cawl: “So the new Primaris Repulsor is nearly ready. How many guns do you want it to have?” Guilliman: “Yes.”

[@trexlord1]

If you do a video about Imperial Guard tanks I'd recommend taking a look at the book "Baneblade". It takes a detailed look on the inside of both the Leman Rus Main Battle Tank, and the Baneblade Super Heavy Tank. It's also a good read overall, and I'm willing to send my copy of it since I haven't touched it in a long time.

[@stylesrj]

I'm not well-versed on the lore here... isn't the Baneblade supposed to be like a Light Tank which gives the implications that there were even bigger ones than that... And the Leman Russ is just a tractor with guns on it?

[@wylandnares8642]

@@stylesrj During the golden age of technology, before the age of strife, it was considered a main Battle tank, but circa M41 it was a super-heavy tank.

[@Knightmare919]

Fun fact : the RPG-7 is the most favorite anti-tank weapon by any army or terrorist organization can penetrate up to 500 mm of armor this weapon right here will be a nightmare for any tank in 40K.

[@deadline_user]

Necropost Useless against tanks with a shield generator, tanks that has amazing speed and agility (mostly Eldar tanks and Dark Eldar), self-repairing tanks (Necron)

[@MechanicWolf85]

I want to see more everything wrong with warhammer vehicles, because my god this world is so stupid is awesome

[@rabidrabbitMSU]

God the fabulous custodes are well...FABULOUS. Now only we only had Kitten back in his glory days.

[@AB-bg7os]

I'm not trying to be *that guy* but their tech is atleast 30 thousand years ahead of us

[@stylesrj]

Except for the Heavy Stubber. That's just a .50cal Browning Machine Gun.

[@nichsa8984]

@@stylesrj very old well

[@dogman9223]

I was waiting for this the second you mentioned it

[@rays5073]

*AAAAAAAYEEEEEAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!*

[@sanuku535]

4:30 "The more battle brothers the better" said on of space marines of the crimson scorpions I interviewed. so there you go.

[@choochoo568]

METAL BAWKSES

[@thomassaldana2465]

Only one thing I really disagree with here; trench warfare hasn't stopped getting used. While it is true that many armies prefer a more mobile method of warfare, they still train on how to dig, defend, and attack trenches. This is because trenches give a significant 'force multiplier' effect. When I was in the New Zealand Army, we were taught that you don't launch an attack against enemy troops unless you outnumber them 3 to 1. But if they have trenches, you don't attack unless you outnumber them 10 to 1. It's also much easier to dig trenches than it used to be. You just order in some engineers with an armoured digger, and they can dig enough trench for a whole Platoon in no time. Trenches these days are not usually long defensive lines stretching for hundreds of kilometres. They're usually a local defensive line around a strategic position, such as a bridge, town, or artillery firebase. Or you can just have an isolated section of trench on a hill watching over an important area. They're also popular in low-budget wars, such as the current conflict in eastern Ukraine, or the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s.

[@thermalvision203]

2:39 It's not so much that mankind intentionally went back on ammunition stowage, so much as humanity literally forgot how to properly store ammunition. You see, all of the Imperium's technology is based on ancient Standard Template Construct (STC) blueprints from the dark age of technology, which was humanity's technological zenith in around the 20th millennium, and any and all technological innovations that cannot be proven to have either originated from an STC blueprint or from a pice of archeotech from the dark age of technology are deemed heretical and even blasphemous by the Mechanicum and Imperium alike. Essentially, the Imperium of Man is a post-apocalyptic society that's desperately trying to reclaim its former glory, and through millennia of religious dogma following the Emperor's death has unintentionally stamped out all innovation, which is also why the Imperium has used the same equipment and technology for ~11000 years. If you want to know more about this, I recommend watching this video on the dark age of technology: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZnGlmOaqLiJZ6c and then this video on the Imperium's technological stagnation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKC7inSVablobsk

[@RayvenQ]

That and the Rhino chassis (which a predator has) wasn't actually made for warfare, but is actually simply an admirer exploration vehicle meant to protect you from hostile environs and local wildlife, it wasn't designed as a vehicle of warfare, storing tank ammo wasn't part of its design hence why the predator has ammo stuffed wherever it'll fit. The predator is basically equivalent to a modern day technical, a vehicle coopted and modified for use in war.

[@groundmasterc]

The Adeptus Mechanicus regularly innovates. See: Repulsors.

[@RayvenQ]

@@groundmasterc true innovation is generally rare in the mechanicus often seen as tech heresy.

[@thermalvision203]

@@groundmasterc Belisarius Cawl is an extraordinary exception to that rule but as that technology originates from the Crusades era when the Emperor was still alive, that was millennia before stagnation set in, and also, technology has seemingly been allowed to advance again at the end of M41 thanks to the return of Primarch Roboute Guilliman.

[@groundmasterc]

@@thermalvision203 There have been other innovations between M31 and M40.

[@dragonling748]

You tried, but your right, there is a load of 40k law. Like Land Raiders with predator cannons on top, the front assault ramps, and the fact that they don't need to provide the space marine with cover when they get out. The space marine are walking tanks themselves. But always cool seeing someone getting into 40k

[@adh615]

Can you also cover the Warhammer 40k Leman Russ Tank?

[@neoxenoz3262]

The shortened height of the M4 Sherman is weird and unnerving

[@CommieMemes]

there were no AI in the imperium as they were considered VERY heretical to be used The machine spirit is very literal as the machine has a spirit

[@adamcarroll9613]

One detail to point out is that the gun sponsons on the Land Raider actually can be set in the forward recess, or the rear recess, although the rear recess seems to be more common because it feels more aesthetically pleasing, but my one Land Raiders tended to have them on the forward slots for the exact reason you mentioned regarding crew safety. Additionally, the viewport on the Dreadnought chassis is, as near as I can tell, intended to provide the interred Marine a window to the real world, instead of their entire experience being through a viewfinder screen. The thing is covered in sensors to give it a massive field of view and multiple view modes to boot, although you are correct about the ability to better utilize a 360 degree viewing system. Regarding the cupola mounted weapons, alot of them do also have the ability to operate similar to a CROWS turret, where the weapon is bolted straight to where the hatch would be, and the crewman just sits inside the tank and operates it remotely, although again, aesthetically it's less interesting in a hobby geared around looking pretty while committing warcrimes, so your point stands.

[@jorgejustin461]

Me upon hearing your choice of music: My master has awakened Edit1: First major mistake, which is a fair one: Machine Spirit is actually just that, the machines spirit. Even Lasguns have them, if it's mechanical it has one, and if you treat your equipment well it's machine spirit will serve you well and perform literal acts of bullshit to save you, and if you treat your equipment like crap it will break and just not work far more frequently. AI did exist in 40k, but after a they basically had the whole Sky-Net thing, but on a galactic scale, Big E banned that shit on his next play through. Edit2: A kinda doesn't really matter thing: The Marines not having cover upon exiting the land raider doesn't really matter when their armor can shrug off a tank shell, this is doubly so for a first company of marines (who are most likely to have a land raider) who themselves will probably have Terminator armor. But you technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. Edit3: Agree: Walkers are dumb.

[@smokestack3327]

Jorge Justin walkers are only dumb if they’re ELDAR HERETIC HAVE YOU NEVER SEEN THE MIGHTY TITANS?!? I OUGHT TO HAVE YOU BROUGHT IN FRONT IN FRONT OF A FIRING SQUAD FOR SUCH HERETICAL REMARKS

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

@@smokestack3327Commissar... is Yvraine a heretic?

[@luxeternity]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 awwhhh shiieetttt ...girlyman ain't gonna be happy someone calling his girlfriend heretics 😂

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

@@luxeternity wait are you a malay or indonesian or something

[@luxeternity]

@@eyeballpapercut4400 Malaysian

[@theargonianmercenary184]

“The more guns the better seems to be the running motto of the franchise, and is literally the motto of one of its factions” Me: Proceeds to WAAAGH!!!! in sink with the video.

[@Selvanus]

2:50 there are cameras. Look at the red circles ya ding dong Turns out I’m the ding dong and that’s some part of the armour. Bottom line. Every weapon in 40k on vehicles usually has a camera linked to it.

[@andrewmcnally5013]

Funny thing is with the Land Raider is that generally (especially on the tabletop) it is used as a transport vehicle for TERMINATOR units, rather than typical marines. Usually 5 of them and a commander. A unit like that would put anything smaller than a titanic vehicle to shame, given the right weapons.

[@General_Dave_1]

All Vehicles have Machine Spirits in 40k, some are much more powerful than others: IE Imperial Knights and Titans. I understand why you can see that fighting solo is also a bad thing but sometimes thats the only choice for tanks in 40k. Especially when its deployed in a support role of a deep strike squad. AI is banned in 40k. Overall im ok with alot of the things you said with me being a big 40k guy. Its just when comparing 40k to the real world its much more difficult seeing how its just our world on crack and scaled up to a trillion.

[@MechanicWolf85]

"Machine spirits" aka AI but they don't want to call them AI

[@j_fab3673]

@@MechanicWolf85 Machine spirits are a broad topic (due to multiple author interpretations) from simple ai that is poorly understood to it simply being a belief among the Imperium that they exist and due to the nature of the warp's effect on the materium they come into being. Weapons and machines with no AI and in mint condition have been known to operate without any reason to do so such as gears turning without motors or small arms not firing when operated or firing without operation.

[@nichsulol4844]

@@MechanicWolf85 they're fully function only humanoid form

[@Jkim890]

One has to remember the Space Marine doctrine (as a whole) in that they conduct mostly offensive warfare against larger and less-mobile forces using pinpoint strikes and leveraging their superiority in their infantry units on a 1-on-1 basis. Which is to say, all these “tanks” are can be airdropped (yes even the land raider) very close to the enemy in situations where it is less practical to just drop the marines themselves. The land raider itself has a hatch at the very front as the primary method for the marines to disembark, the side doors are usually secondary. Once close enough, the marines are unloaded as close as possible in order to wipe out the enemy. That is to say, the marines are the main weapons of the land raider, not the other way around. They’re almost like amphibious beach landing craft, but on land. With that in mind, the predator is pretty much a light tank with an infantry support role, inserted on weak points at the enemy flank, taking out the light vehicles and fortifications of an unprepared enemy while suppressing them so that the space marines themselves and not the predator can exploit any breakthroughs made. Don’t know exactly what to make of the dreadnoughts, as I really haven’t seen tactics on the way they are used depicted much in the literature or elsewhere.

[@13Lictor]

I'd love you to do the Orks just to watch your brain melt mid-rant

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Something worth noting for the Land Raider, it is uniquely capable of providing ground transport to much larger infantry, so that is a potential rationalization for the awkward transport bay. The infantry the land raider would be transporting is arguably more durable than the land raider itself.

[@TKScreamer]

I don't know how much knowledge do you have about the universe, but you got it all wrong. You shoudnt analize Predator as a MBT, because on the context of the universe they were designed as a light tanks/light armored support, and predator weapons and role, was to support infantry. As you noticed they are converted APC Rhino, there are examples of this kind of tank in present times and they role is usually to be scout/light tank. As a MBT you should maybe give example of a Leman Russ Tank from imperial guard, becaus they were more like MBTs by design. But it is hard to give particular example because there is hundreds of difrent models of tanks, with difrent weapons and stuff. I don't think MBT idea is even a thing in a Wh40k universe. As the Land rider analize go, it is basically gloriefied APC, and its weapons are again "just to support infantry" , the size of the APC was this big because it was designed to carry terminators (marines with much heavier/bigger version of power armors). The forward facing as you called them "heavy bolters" are Assault bolters, and are in fact todays equivalent of Vulcan cannons and as the antiinfantry weapons go, this is far more effective than autocannon from predator (which wasnt antitank gun btw)

[@doombringer3498]

And predator's crew wears power armor.

[@justinandersob5534]

I like how you took the war hammer tanks. Love it

[@eGavik]

To add to the last point about how the tank designs are inspired by the darkness of WWI - 40k is an awful place. It's a critique of empires, expansion and the military industrial complex. So it's fitting that their designs are bloated and impractical.

[@lordsesshomaru8960]

I would love to see Spookston design his own army for WH40k. I don't mean that in a scathing or sarcastic way either. Its interesting enough listening to him critique 40k designs. As a science fiction it would be most interesting to see what a more "practical" and reasonable sci-fi design would look like from another intelligent person.

[@ethanreaper]

Dreadnoughts aren't vehicles. They aren't piloted. They are warriors.

[@CBRN-115]

I'd love to see marine tanks fully redesigned in a more reasonable and optimal way