The DELETED SHUNNING VIDEOS that Jehovah's Witnesses DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE...

[@kenitabaum4843]

“They forgave me after everything I’ve had done” What she did: Had a relationship with someone who made her happy .

[@arcellgreen4754]

@@kenitabaum4843 it’s their way or the highway

[@Where_is_Waldo]

Some religions are just a source of comfort, this religion's just sick.

[@SaltyAsTheSea]

Worst part is, they make you reliant on someone else for your forgiveness. If you can honestly forgive YOURSELF and move on in life, you will be an absolute unit when it comes to growth and change.

[@yellowishgreendragon.-.]

Should have stayed in that relationship.

[@62sy]

@@Where_is_Waldoall religions are

[@arcellgreen4754]

She is now going to put her children in the same situation as her🤦

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Repeating cycle

[@ZxCv134-n3b]

Endless cycle 🤦‍♂️

[@potatoman7594]

well be happy that its a fake video.

[@jellyen-]

@@dr.6377 legally yes, but the church would convince the mother not to let them seem their dad

[@ceticategamermdoa2599]

@@jellyen- In my town there was a case where one witness caught his wife cheating on him and got extremely mad (completely normal reaction - nothing physical btw I know the guy) and her parents completely ignored him, because they didn't like him from the very beginning. After some time, this lady that cheated got disfellowshipped herself, and her parents still talked to her normally, even sent her money here and there, because her father was an elder, and an important one, so basically deranking him from his position would mean chaos in the congregation. Hypocritical stuff I must say.

[@christiancancino2253]

They can erase that video from website, but they can't erase the hundreds of suicides, the hundreds of childs who doesn't know who's their granparents, they can't erase the suffer, they can't erase the past.

[@grizzly_8917]

Please rember.

[@kinazz19]

My little brother being of them victims 😢

[@jeremybennett5547]

@@kinazz19😢sorry for your loss

[@christiancancino2253]

​@@kinazz19🫂

[@665demondog]

Children not childs

[@joellebrowne5714]

4th generation born in fully shunned - now free and living my best life 🥰

[@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD]

SPARLOCK THE WARRIOR WIZARD• is proud of you.

[@user-wi9hv2pb2q]

lol these videos don't show the expelled thriving, because they Do.

[@GoodMorning-b2w]

@@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD ??

[@GoodMorning-b2w]

@@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD you're truly the comment warrior you're everywhere

[@GoodMorning-b2w]

@@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD while i don't believe in the existence of cringe i am getting the impression that you are a very cringe person, given your username

[@eyesistorm]

"When you are starving, even crumbs feel like a banquet" Dang that line hits hard.

[@marcellaacone7085]

So true. But sometimes starving shows your dignity.

[@dryxeyes]

It really did

[@kenirainseeker539]

So basically this woman got coerced to come back to a cult because she just wanted to talk to her family. That's so messed up. She didn't even do anything wrong. All she did was get married and have kids

[@ghostthelizard]

It feels a lot like a hostage situation. "Oh you wanna talk to your parents? You gotta come back and pray to us- i mean our god"

[@marcellaacone7085]

Well, she talks about this Eric. Then, in a couple of scenes, this Eric disappears. She takes her son and daughter to the Congregation, and what about their father? Does he agree? Who knows, who cares! 😕

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

@@marcellaacone7085 They took the kids from them.

[@marcellaacone7085]

@@JeantheSecond-ip7qm - We have got to guess and invent our own version; I would liked more they make me see this, as it was supposed a video to watch, not an incomplete story to fill with our fan-fiction like imagination. A plot-hole, in few words, but, in the end, who cares?

[@smash461986]

​@@marcellaacone7085huh? This literally happens.

[@korbyndrawsstuff485]

It's just so incredibly disgusting to watch. Especially their favorite way to frame disfellowshipped people: "I didn't even CARE that my parents were disappointed in me!" Like???? Hurting your ENTIRE family is a huge part of the plan for these people.

[@coldboltlighting1237]

Yeah… disgusting 🤢 shit they make up! Most people that leave do not want to hurt there family and friends, I didn’t even care…. Dude I’m fucking pimo I care a lot to my family and friends and community! I hope exjws and one day even me! Can change these disgusting rules,that hurt millions! Hopefully our government will listen to us and stop this shit!

[@TallKulWmn1]

Definitely no empathy nor compassion. ‘My way or the highway’. Quick question, if she’s a lost sheep, will gods chariot slow down to give her a lift? 🤷‍♀️

[@PokemonRules333]

You shouldn’t be worried about disappointing your parents if you are an adult it’s your life not theirs

[@tastybeetz1511]

@@PokemonRules333this is why the shunned serve it

[@yellowishgreendragon.-.]

Not caring wasn't apart of the plan. But it was necessary in order to get away.

[@Ashleyandthepeaches]

Before i was disfellowshipped last year my dad always said this video reminded him of me. I was also the perfect child and never made mistakes (not for the public eye at least, did a lot of shady shit behind the scenes lol) and i also fell in love with my colleague. They really try to make you scared of the world and if you get into a relationship with a "wordly" person it WILL go wrong. Now i live with my boyfriend who is still my colleague, and i have the best life ever, living my own life. Would not change it for the world❤

[@BeanzUndToazt]

Wish you two the best of luck and love!

[@venti726]

Wish you the best and long life happiness

[@mashedpotatoguy]

Wow you're literally the girl from the video but actually did the right choice😂

[@runningfromabear8354]

I have a friend who was disfellowshipped. She married another jw in college and divorced him months later when he turned out to be an asshole. Her family and church kicked her out. Fortunately she was in college and the college had resources to help her. She has a great life, owns her own home and lots of friends and zero interest in dating. I don't think she's ever going to date again.

[@JohnnyX7-m3m]

Good for you! It’s a cult plain and simple. Go your own way and be happy is what I say. 😊

[@andrewdigregorio3736]

I was adopted by JW people all I did was smoked one cigarette not even in front of them but somebody saw me from the congregation and then I was disfellowshipped forever and they immediately put me back into the system

[@Feedaneeshaqua]

Omg that's awful. I'm so sorry you experienced that

[@Harudodo]

How godly of them /s

[@buringplumbranches]

Thats horrible.😢im so sorry. I hope you found a better family

[@Imezita]

What the actual fuck?? ?????? That's insane I hope you're in a better place, where people truly love you

[@cosmiclove2795]

I'm so sorry.

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

No government should be giving money to any religious body.

[@Hfjsjdjd]

Agreed

[@nvender9062]

Agreed!

[@christiancancino2253]

Bro, are you speaking English? Or FACTS? 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Harudodo]

Nah real like doesn’t that technically go against separation of church and state? It’s bad enough they don’t pay taxes, this is even worse 😭

[@comprehensivemaybe]

Agreed!

[@Crystalfeathers4]

Shunning is a horrific form of systemic abuse. I hope more people are made aware of this.

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

We shun bad people to. Should we start being nice to nzi's?

[@MrBackman85213]

​@@ZaxTax-h8t No, but where did you get that idea? Uzi's are literally christians, what's your excuse.

[@Crystalfeathers4]

@ZaxTax-h8t 1) This is a bad faith example. Nazis being Jehovah's witnesses is not a widespread problem 2) One can pursue legal and social consequences for immoral behavior without resorting to emotionally abusive tactics. E.g. kicking someone out of your church for repeatedly saying bigoted things is not the same as systemically cutting them all from any communication with anyone in their social circle at the same time.

[@MrBackman85213]

@@ZaxTax-h8t Aren't Uzi's also religious? I mean a lot of them do believe in god

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

@@MrBackman85213 not the point.

[@lilblondiebear]

I despise anything that reeks of emotional manipulation. If not for this, would have a much more neutral view on the JW religion. It's unconscionable that anyone claiming to be all about "God's love" could demonstrate such cruelty. It's psychological trauma.

[@jeremybennett5547]

Yeah this type of treatment makes me feel so much against the faith. So many people, lives, relationships ruined by such a non Christlike practive

[@eliphas_vlka]

Thats a big cult behavior

[@rongair8699]

Exactly. What kind of god they worship, a god that loves to punish, to be angry, to harass . If so why even bother serving such devious entity? Not worth one minute of a precious life.

[@HealerLightBringer]

They exploit the poor, the uneducated, the fatherless child, and vulnerable women. This video doesn't even make mention of the kids dad. They purposely do that to leave the followers to believe that the worldly husband was unloving.

[@SpicyPlur]

Why don't people ever talk specifically about POC being taken advantage of? I have seen the JW propaganda specifically for them, especially in recruiting.

[@MuckyPup115]

That’s what I wanted to know! She had two kids with Eric and we never see him again? She’s not married?

[@MuckyPup115]

@@SpicyPlurdon’t say poc. That’s so cliche and corny.

[@chimeraarts2372]

This is the same shit cults do. But cuz it’s Jesus it’s all okay.

[@IamStillrich]

Some exdruggie mom of a bass turd told me they use Jesus while they are here. Use him. They use him. He is dead should he not rest? Screw them. They are not good. All of them? Hell no. As an organization? Hell yes. I judge them. I judge them they must pay cash money. One way or the other. Cash should not be a bad sacrifice since they can just give me back what they stole from me. I mean it's not like they have to sacrifice an only physically formed kid or something to obtain MY forgiveness.

[@dr.acula124]

A friend of mine was shunned by her own father when she was 6 (!!) just because her mother didn't want to convert. He started talking to her again about 10 years ago, but obviously their relationship is very limited because he's still a witness. She can't even smoke a cigarette if he's around because she's so afraid of losing her father again. I've seen disappointment in her eyes everytime he doesn't want to get too much involved in her life. The saddest thing is that she's gay and she never lived as her true self because she's afraid her father may shun her again. This shit leaves you traumatised to the core.

[@merricat3025]

She shouldn't be smoking at 16. Stop smoking for her health not her dad

[@JosieViolette]

​​@@merricat3025 Correction. When she was 6, he left. 10 years _ago_ is not 10 years _later._ This could've happened 20 years ago and he only popped back into her life when she was 16 and she only started smoking later on. Who knows what her life details are. Moreover, even if she is 16, this kind of trauma leaves kids in a dark place and a cigarette- albeit harmful their health- causes a temporary release from pain and a powerful addiction. They also never mentioned if she was an addict or a casual smoker. Regardless, it's a sad thing she still, after many years, is experiencing. Hopefully this provides a little more perspective and compassion. 🙂

[@JosieViolette]

My condolences for your friend's loss. What she has in her life is a bully and a coward, not a father. If she saw any example of a real father that sparks powerful boundless love and safety, she would know this. Secondly, I hope she seeks out a mental health professional who specializes in familial dynamics and relationships. Being around that man is not a good investment for her personal wellbeing. She's afraid of finding love because of him, which in a way is his mission, after all- to keep people from being around others who would help her heal and get away from him. This keeps her from investing in herself and her bright future ahead that could be filled with far greater love and possibility, because that place is being filled by fear of such a small, pathetic excuse of a man. Your friend deserves to have a real family, and a real life, not whatever this plague-ridden human is offering her. As the video mentions, when starving, even crumbs feel like a banquet. I truly hope you are able to help her realize this and guide her toward increasing her self-esteem, self-compassion, forgiveness for herself and not that man masquarading as even the shell of what a parent is meant to be, realize what he's doing and cut him out entirely. (EDIT: If he is genuinely apologetic and actively working to help her recover from the pain he's inflicted, that's wonderful. However, it's his responsibility to accept who she truly is and let her find joyous love without fear of him hurting her again.) He's already pushing her away from new relationships and made her fearful of repeated abandonment as a punishment. This tactic of emotional abu- isn't unique to this group. It's in _countless_ other humans, parents, partners, friends, strangers. She deserves to be free of that. She deserves to live the one life she has free and happily with true love from a family that she makes among her friends and healthy loved ones. I know it's so difficult to let go, to not blame yourself, to not understand "why" they did it, "how" they don't see or could apologize without using selfless actions to heal what they'd hurt, and to feel abandoned after walking away from them. But in order to grow a new garden, the diseased plants that are sucking the life out of the soil most go away completely. Then a new garden full of life and fulfillment can grow. Yes, this is the same concept of shunning him out, but there is a difference between shunning an abu- human than shunning out an innocent child or an adult just because they didn't allow themselves to be emotionally abu- and literally controlled by fear. I don't know the situation entirely, so my sincerest apologies if I've made a mistake here. I only wish for you and her the best, happiest, healthiest lives and hope she finds peace. She sounds like such a strong woman. Best wishes and happy holidays! ❤❤❤

[@mar420.74]

​@@merricat3025 that's not THE POINT the point is this dude doesn't care about his kid only what he wants

[@fluffyunicorn7187]

I grew up as a JW and most of their ways never made sense to me There was a disfellowshipped woman in my congregation when I was around 10. No one told me what she did or when she'd come back I knew it was polite to shake people's hand and say hello but I couldn't talk to her for some reason and I didn't understand that In my teens, none of the kids in the congregation liked me. I grew up with these people and they never liked me. I had friends in my school and all the older woman told me I couldn't have school friends. So you're telling me I'm not allowed to have friends at all then? I finally just left when I turned 18. I convinced my Dad to leave cause I started asking him questions he couldn't answer

[@EmmaChasteen-g7z]

Good job!

[@user-dw4uj1cw4l]

You seem smart. Good job, I'm glad.

[@AmelieFlad]

I'm so glad you left and sorry that you had souch a hard time. Wish you the best, and God bless you

[@selcatron]

so glad you were able to get your dad to gtfo with you

[@BeavisMcThe]

I remember reading that being ignored activates the same part of the brain as physical pain. My heart literally aches for everyone that has had to endure that torture. Thankfully my family is like yours. I can't imagine. Thank you for not letting those scumbags try to hide the sick truth about "the truth."

[@humanrelatedtolegend64-on4bc]

Holy crap so its literally a form a tourter

[@TZER0]

Can you imagine how much avoidance would hurt someone with social disabilities like autism? It would kill them mentally.

[@marcellaacone7085]

I am living this every single day. Three years now for someone, a couple of days from someone else. Free to think I look for such people or I make this on purpose. It's not like this. I almost disappear and it's not enough.

[@bananamanchester4156]

I can confirm from experience. I had a bad argument with my mother as a teenager (we were both technically at fault but I was a teenager and she was a grown woman...) She gave me the silent treatment for two weeks. By the end of the two weeks, I grovelled and begged her to forgive me and talk to me, and afterwards I was too frightened to argue with her again because I couldn't bear the thought of her rejecting me again. I can't possibly imagine how painful it would be for your entire family and community to do this to you. It destroys you in a way that's hard to describe. Now, I'm a lot more assertive and strong. The last time my mother tried to do this to me, I threatened to cut off contact entirely, and suddenly she wanted to discuss and resolve the issue. You can recover folks! If someone treats you like you're invisible, that's a testament to THEM and not you. It shows they're unable to handle you challenging them. They're weak. Not you. DISCLAIMER: I'm not talking about people who cut contact with a toxic family member. I'm talking about people who deliberately give the silent treatment. The difference is this: cutting off a toxic person is an act of love for yourself, but giving someone the silent treatment is an act of punishment towards them.

[@marcellaacone7085]

@@bananamanchester4156 - I saved your comment and I think I will read it over and over again. In this place everybody get offended in no time and they show no mercy in their revenge. The best they can do is to stop seeing me as a human being, as if I was invisible or a piece of furniture. I could tell who started and why I reacted with silence first, but I've never ignored someone as he or she was not present; I was just scared for their reaction, so my dialogues were meant to be innocuous, all about surface and survivals. On reverse, this thing is put on me to be radical, hateful and dry. No love. And they call it family. It is possible here, it is possible in bigger organizations, so, please, don't trust the ones who minimize Jehovah's Witnesses' behaviour when thye disassociate you.

[@MissMaskless]

Sooo lemme get this straight...JWs would disfellowship someone for dating an unbeliever..but if a convert is married to an unbeliever, they can't divorce? 🙃

[@exjwpandatower]

Yep

[@jeremybennett5547]

Bro how does this work

[@wildbill6366]

Well she had sex with him that's the problem...

[@Nik0__]

@@exjwpandatowerwhat. ??? What??????

[@TallKulWmn1]

@@jeremybennett5547 Cognitive dissonance goes a long way in this organization 😝

[@Vicki_Benji]

Makes me wonder what happened to Sonja's husband. I was recently diagnosed with congestive heart failure. I texted my mother and told her. She never replied back.

[@exjwpandatower]

Damn, im sorry for that cold treatment 😢

[@Vicki_Benji]

@@exjwpandatower she hasn't spoken to me in 20 years. I thought maybe she would say something.

[@BeavisMcThe]

That's so awful, sorry. I appreciate you!

[@Vicki_Benji]

@@BeavisMcThe ❤

[@jeremybennett5547]

That’s so heartbreaking. Sorry to hear that😢

[@kittykatrock101]

They can erase whatever they want but those old farts don’t realize the internet remembers. I will never forget how many attempted self-unalivings I tried nor will I forget being kicked out of my family home at 23 and having to sleep in my car without ever being DFd. I just had an unbelieving boyfriend. The damage is done and now watchtower is answering for it. We live in an Age of free information at the click of a button. It will catch up with them. I can only hope more people aren’t hurt before it happens

[@garylines5755]

When I grew up you either went to college or you were kicked out of the house at 18

[@kittykatrock101]

@ JW women are expected to live at home until they get married. In the event of a divorce or separation (at least in my hall) we were expected to move back in and live with our parents. College wasn’t allowed. At 33 I’m now enrolled in college and have been on my own since 23. I knew nothing of the world nor how to conduct myself as a proper member of society. I know now. And it would have been totally different had I not been raised in this cult.

[@garylines5755]

@@kittykatrock101 WOW That sounds like prison I would much rather be kicked out at 18.My moms side of the family are amish and they are about the same my grandfather lived twenty miles from his brother and went forty years without seeing each other but even they gave teenagers a little freedom

[@kittykatrock101]

@@garylines5755 it was very prison like. JW men have a bit more freedoms but JW women basically are assigned to be baby factories or homemakers. While I have no issues at all if it’s someone’s choice, we weren’t given a choice. I remember when I got in trouble around 17-18 with an old bf. All we did was make out a bit but I got publicly reproved( or shamed) while he got quietly reproved. All because I don’t have a male appendage 🤣🤣

[@lost_pmc_3927]

I sorry to hear that you had to go through all that

[@Cfalconeri]

Their shunning videos are infuriating. I know how they operate and have experienced this behavior and unloving treatment, shame on the governing body trying to erase this and playing semantics renaming 'disfellowshipped' to 'removed.' Scumbags! My mom calls and says they are changing and being more lenient. This does not change what has been done and no, they are not changing and the shunning will continue. Edit: Just finished the video. I am not disfellowshipped, but I left this group last year after a horrific divorce and I am shunned because they would not give me the so called "grounds." Domestic violence and a 'emotional affair' is not divorceable according to them.

[@RickletonTEsquire]

This group seems like crap I’m glad you left

[@CleoParta1965]

Biblically the only grounds for divorce is adultery. If he was violent then definitely separate for own safety. He would probably commit adultery eventually and then you’d be free to divorce. Forget JWs, they are just human beings. You disobeyed Gods principles.

[@victorc2869]

The sad thing about the 2nd video is that parents didn't read the disassociation letter and don't understand the reasons their son left. If they did, they would KNOW that there's no chance at all for him to return, regardless of how much they shun him.

[@eyesistorm]

I was thinking just this. Levi chose to leave the religion. He's not going to magically "return to jehovah" when he deliberately left to get away from this bs.

[@Hannah.7412]

I remember watching the first video as a teenager. My now husband was my secret fiance at the time. The brainwashing made me sick with guilt sometimes. At 18 I was kicked out when my parents found out I was planning to marry a non-believer. Tonight I'm watching this next to my adoring husband, as I paint my nails a cheery holiday red and sip cocoa. Every moment of suffering was so worth it to escape. My only regret is not escaping sooner.

[@Simon_Q]

I'm glad you are doing better

[@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD]

All the best - SPARLOCK THE WARRIOR WIZARD•

[@Hannah.7412]

@@Simon_Q Thank you 😊

[@Hannah.7412]

@@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD🤣 Great name

[@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD]

@@Hannah.7412 Indeed.

[@PlateOfColours]

When parents shun their kids, the love they had for them was transactional at that point. Its so fucking gross. You should love your child no matter what

[@Harudodo]

Real the second someone shuns their kids, it proves their love is conditional. It doesn’t matter if it’s for “their own good”

[@eq4611]

Nah my kid goes out doing heinous crimes, I’m shunning him. Doesn’t wanna listen to his parents and follows those around him becoming a delinquent? I’m shunning too. 😂

[@Harudodo]

@ tbf I feel like that is a lil different 😂 if my child committed genocide I probably would too

[@eq4611]

@@Harudodo nah original post said “no matter what” and you said *Real* 😂😂 you love that genocide committing crimes child of yours

[@kiera6326]

@@eq4611and you can rest easy knowing that you failed as a parent

[@Electron-hw8xr]

What i find funny is that sonja’s bf immediately gets deleted from the picture after she gets disfellowshiped… like it’s the reason why she left in the first place. And without having someone in her life she has 2 kids after? And as soon as she has kids Jehovah wants her back? Wow this video’s insane

[@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto]

Obviously having a supportive significant other to help them weather through the watchtowers abuse would destroy their strawman so, they get rid of the reason she left to maximize her suffering. So outside of being a real estate agency using their religious status as a tax exemption, they are branching out into torture p0rn to anyone the watchtower finds undermines them by even an iota. As someone who got away from a different cult that is listed on a cia watchlist, the day this cult is dissolved is the day people who were wronged by them can begin to heal.

[@mariolibertad9972]

The elder perverts want the children

[@carrythecoyo3141]

@@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto woah what do you mean about the torture thing? whats that about

[@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto]

⁠@@carrythecoyo3141a bit of hyperbole on my part for the statement but, the way they portray their version of excommunication and how they insist that doubts and critical thinking should be met with apprehension. It reads like a C-list plot to an adult rated movie focusing solely on torturing those who were involved in the religion but did something the watchtower did not like or crossing an Elder. Only issue is, this is real and they expect their “sheep” to be exactly that rather than the humans they are.

[@ladymacbethofmtensk896]

Which is why I doubt that this story actually happened. It would not be below Jehovah's Witnesses to fabricate such case studies for the sake of their propaganda.

[@bearlh40]

I went to a service (first time) today. While reading the Watchtower, the reader omitted the phrase regarding '...disfellowshipping...'. Just skipped right over it. Also, about a half a dozen people came up to me and asked me what I thought of the service. "It was boring." Well, they asked...

[@perspgold8945]

I worked with a JW and she was always so scared when I gave her a ride home from work. I had to drop her a few blocks away from her home and most the time she would deny the ride offer.

[@tsarbuckscoffee6824]

Oh wow, I had the same thing happen to me at one of my old jobs. He always asked me to drop him off at the end of his street and never his house.

[@kaybee9676]

so basically Sonja's husband just vanished after she was shunned?

[@Tabascofanatikerin]

Maybe his actual name was Tyler Durden. ^^

[@sofaoofa]

this hits hard. shunning is a terrible practice and should be stopped completely and apologized for, not quietly erased. from one ex-cult cousin to another, thanks for your work.

[@sofaoofa]

On my mormon mission i remember talking to JW members who didn't go as much and being appalled about the whole shunning thing. I though I was helping them get out of a cult, but thinking that they were a cult helped me realize that there were similar things in mormonism that were also culty. I hope things get better for the JWs, but I can see this being a really slow change that takes a while for it to also be incorporated into the culture of the church. For the record I don't think mormons should get money from European governments either.

[@kenirainseeker539]

They wouldn't keep any members without coercing them

[@careottjuice]

No, they should stop being JWs. That's it

[@cayteturner2362]

I grew up in a JW family, but I was adopted into it. I still had contact with my biological dad’s side so I got to experience Christmas, birthdays, etc. I always knew from an early age that this “religion” wasn’t for me. I’ve had 2 family members that were disfellowshipped and it’s disgusting. Not only do they announce it to the entire congregation, then you have to sit in the very back and leave right away. Once you’re reinstated, people still don’t just up and forget that you were disfellowshipped….and you’re still kind of judged. It’s so sad and inhumane. 😞

[@louieluigi3914]

There should be no punishment for leaving a church. If these churches believe that they are saving souls, and are a source of goodness and truth. How could there any punishment for separating oneself from it.

[@sahiblindberg]

yes and the fact that this has to be said out loud is just baffling

[@Duhble07]

Agreed

[@majorramsey3k]

She didn't leave, she was kicked out and shunned. I have no problem with a church kicking people out for bad things (incest, etc) but this wasn't bad like that. The shunning is a whole other level of control.

[@Duhble07]

@ Excellent point. Shunning IS “a whole other level of control”. Spread via videos and elder edicts. The induced fear of “invisible punishment” disables our innate biology to nurture, replaced by a fear of those we should love. JW’s emphasize verses about “fear, hate, and punishment”. While Jews emphasize verses about “love and honor”. All these verses come from the same book, but the different choice yields entirely opposite outcomes. Jews are successful and one of the most highly-educated groups, while JWs are one of the least (Pew Research).

[@DonnaNewby-x7u]

JWs are NOT the Church

[@JohnnyX7-m3m]

Notice how Sonia upon returning to the JWs was without Eric and her two children. Thar’s the pitiful reality of this cult. evidently he wouldn’t convert nor have his children convert, and so she returns by herself smiling like nothing happened. After having known a woman in their faith, I gained a whole lot of insight. I got to know her on the Internet, and I thought there was a chance for us, but when I offered to come and meet her in person, she declined, saying that there were people in the fellowship all over like spies and they rat each other out when they see a member fraternizing or otherwise engaging with a non-member. I’m glad I let that one go.

[@theXshopXmeister]

I like how they imply that because she went with the “worldly” man, now she is a single mother. Lol so annoying

[@AndrewFischer-sz5cb]

JWs took him out 😔

[@Camouflage35]

Right, that’s what happens when you fall in love with a worldly guy. Surprised they didn’t mention the STDs and unwanted pregnancies

[@Where_is_Waldo]

I can't commend enough anyone who helps a shunned cult member integrate into normal life.

[@Bugaboo173]

Did I grow up a Jehovah’s Witness? No. Did I grow up in any sort of organized religion at all? No. Do I still watch these videos anyway? Yes.

[@Charchie03]

Same 😊

[@bruceheadley7191]

My brother was raised Methodist, his wife Jehovah Witness and excommunicated by having a baby out of wedlock. She struggled constantly to rejoin the church and reunite with her family. For context, my brother had no interest in joining Jehovah's Witness. Well, they had a child, that poor child was being torn in different religious directions that had to be perplexing and nonsensical. My brother enjoyed decorating for Christmas, his wife looked down upon it, and this poor child was caught in the middle (this is just one example, mind you). Eventually the poor child couldn't deal with his Father's passing and the constant conflict .. decided to end their life.

[@Marcelofilho24]

As a Brazilian I have no option but to comment on any video my country is mentioned hahahaha

[@KiwiLeeScipio]

It's wild to me that both of these people leaving their home only take like a suitcase or 2. As someone who ran away from an abusive parent, I had also planned everything and took as much as I could with me.

[@eq4611]

Glad you were able to

[@ghostthelizard]

Its possible that they dont have many things. This is the religion that forbids you to celebrate birthdays. Although its probably just for the movie because they dont have to actually take stuff when running away in the movie because theyre not running away.

[@errorghast5227]

When I left home I could only take my things for school and the clothes on my back, almost couldn’t take my guitar but I told my aunt(who was watching me get ready and pack my stuff) that I needed it for school. They were going to take me to Alberta before I could finish grade 12 because I wouldn’t stop my “worldly friendships “ I didn’t go home after school that day. I was only 17 :/ Going to be 33 this week, still glad I left when I did. My mom didn’t even wait a month before she threw all of my things away in my room. And she’s still trying to get me to come back… can’t do it. After all the years of abuse my family put me through, I still break down and cry if I’m in a Kingdom Hall.

[@EmmaChasteen-g7z]

I wasn't a JW, but I left an abuser with 1 shoe on. It's one thing if you were planning to leave, but those people were removed and it's just a short video. They don't show the mom make the whole meal either

[@Arninun090]

I had a PIMI friend who had 'disfellowship plans' before the 'new light' and it goes like this: "If I do something that leads me to being disfellowshipped I am going to self exit." It was so disturbing bc she had an elaborate plan on how to execute it too, and showed it to me. People in the Borg are so hard pressed on preaching so they can 'save lives' but fail to care for the already recruited members' lives. The irony of it all

[@HP-ws2vx]

22:50 There's always this part where the narrator is like "and then we made the choice that is obviously amoral" and happy upbeat music starts playing in a desperate attempt to sway you lol.

[@mapple7003]

As someone who was raised in a JW household for a decade, it was absolute hell when i wanted to date in highschool. My mom gave me so much grief for it... But my dad isnt a JW and she's married to him. Sometimes I feel guilt and wonder if it was a mistake to leave the congregation, but videos like this open my eyes once more. Thank you

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

“Even after all I had done.” Loving someone. She loved someone. This horrific guilt trip and cutting off their own daughter is over loving someone who isn’t pre-approved by the cult.

[@AbbsKabaabs]

Oh my Gosh. Like. This video. Even though I don't consider myself a mormon anymore, I still felt FEAR watching the woman in the film live a HEALTHY INTIMATE LIFE. All of my experiences in childhood and teenagehood have made me feel so ashamed of natural feelings. Even though I am with a loving partner, I still feel such NEGATIVE emotions when it comes to seeing even implied sexual intimacy in films. It's awful. I hated the control they had over me.

[@aileent.2592]

This practice is so unethical and inhumane. My dad (disfellowshipped in his teens) always said that love for family should never be conditioned. And he is, in fact, the most loving father. Nothing I could ever do or say has changed his love and support for me.

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Because true love is not wire in a contract, A convience of people in charge or an excuse, like saying, God ordered Love is there no matter what Funny how the bible it slef teaches that, but us humans ignore it and go south our own interpretation.

[@notlunalust]

Damn, what's all the dislikes for? This person has a point: This cult is toxic and they try their hardest to hide it.

[@IdkMan-x6k]

probably JW's

[@Pac-Man..]

The deluded and programmed JW simpletons are always on the prowl.

[@smash461986]

2 dislikes. Not sure that consitutes as an "All".

[@notlunalust]

@@smash461986 Hold up, when did that change?? I'm not gonna lie, when I commented that, this had 5K+ dislikes O: (maybe the wayback can pick that up)

[@davidchess1985]

A truly awful cult.

[@Garbagemountain3]

WE MANIPULATING PEOPLE WITH THIS ONE!!!!! 🗣🗣💯💯

[@Sparrow_wf]

I’m currently recovering from surgery, and seeing you post always makes me cheered up. While I’ve never been apart of this cult, I always enjoy watching your videos for education! Thank you for posting, have a good day

[@arianbyw3819]

I have a friend who was brought up as a jw. She walked away as an adult, then years later, when her mother died as a jw, she was not allowed to attend the funeral. Instead she had to watch on video cam.

[@newfiejoe4998]

Bro, your narration to this video, was just perfect. Everyone needs to see this video, and I'll do my best to share this video. Brilliant job! !!

[@justsaying8041]

I don't understand why watchtower fights governments when it seems like they are being "discriminated" against? Isn't there whole thing is that all governments will in the end time? Shouldn't they be welcoming in and not trying to fight it? Would this be a form of proof? Also aren't they not supposed to get involved with governments and policies? Doesn't this just prove that even they know it is BS? Just some thoughts

[@cattflap1447]

Jehovah loves the almighty $$

[@Harudodo]

I’m willing to bet the governing body doesn’t actually believe in the religion at all…just a bunch of evil old white men going on a power trip

[@PokemonRules333]

To me this shows that watchtower knows what they are saying is bs and they are only saying these things to keep their followers in line

[@fouraztecas6342]

They took it down cuz it inspired people to get out. This video makes sense.

[@dave007dog]

I’m always impressed at how well your selection of video game music fits in with the videos. The MM and UT soundtracks put in me a reflective mindset.

[@sahiblindberg]

I'm from Finland. Our country has a compulsory military service, which means that every able-bodied man has to serve in the army. Except that there is one group that doesn't have to do that. Can you guess what it is? However, seeing what our Norwegian neighbours have done gives me hope. Maybe we also will at some point stop giving weird little privileges for JW:s. Love your content, keep it up!

[@evil778]

This is honestly pretty fascinating, because from the point of view of someone who left their own religion, what I see is a girl who found a man who made her happy and who helped her grow to leave the JW cult, and to leave her toxic family. And then of course being ignored by her family in order to subtly push her and quietly manipulate her into joining the cult again and continuing the long process of indoctrinating people into the cult because she has children. But on the other side of things, the JWs see a toxic and disgusting girl who betrayed her family by disrespecting Jehova/God, and then she has a revelation that she made a terrible mistake and returns, redeeming herself. And that second video man... Is just so manipulative it hurts. That video is designed to be one big horrible guilt trip to make everyone thinking about leaving the JW cult fearful of the guilt and pain they will cause them and mainly their loved ones. It's nasty stuff dude.

[@sutherlandbrook3205]

Was forced into this at 11 and told i couldn’t associate with any of my friends anymore.

[@RasheedGazzi]

I wouldn't want to be reembraced by anyone who shunned me.

[@sutherlandbrook3205]

@ I didnt listen, and moved to my other parents house at 14 to get away from that nonsense.

[@catmofy]

i appreciate these videos a lot! i learned many new things thanks to u and they’re really entertaining to watch as well ☺️☺️☺️

[@emeraldheart2050]

8:50 A Jewish perspective about this story is that Aaron’s sons were never punished, but rather chosen since G-d mentioned previously that He was going to choose two righteous men to join Him. Damn, WT has a dark perspective on these stories…

[@ghostthelizard]

Honestly to me the story reads like an accident that caused two deaths seen through a religious perspective. And the reason aaron shouldnt mourn is because he was a man of high position. If the president of a nation suddenly fell into deep grief it would probably reflect on his performance in that job. You may tell yourself that this incident was punishment by the lord to make it easier to stay strong during a moment of great loss. It was also only aaron and I think some priests (?) that couldn't mourn. Everybody else could. And as mentioned, Aaron as head priest simply was not in a position where he was allowed to mourn. But of course the JWs prefer to ignore that because it doesnt fit the narrative

[@lozzalozza8361]

was bought up as a JW, as soon as I hit 18 I left and my father hasnt spoke to me since. (Im 29 and happy)

[@CatholicAlyx]

As a Catholic, this kind of shunning and abuse is sickening. apostasy in Catholicism is something to be prayed for and if they have questions or look like they are interested in coming back we dont push, we guide, and when they rejoin, we rejoice

[@hatebreeder999]

Interesting. I come from Jain religion where there is no concept of God, deity or even apostatcy. You are responsible for your own lives and actions. So from Jain perspective these abrahamic religions look so absurd 😂

[@CatholicAlyx]

@ what in religion removes you from responsibility? We are called to claim responsibility for our actions and to be perfect like our father in heaven, now that is impossible but we can get as close as we can in his mercy and forgiveness and charity

[@chaoticcow4357]

​@@CatholicAlyxImplying that forgiveness is always possible and that heaven is achievable if you repent isnt exactly motivating taking responsibility. You can only take responsibility if you acknowledge that you can't always be forgiven. The point of responsibility is to try and make it better, not for your own self gain, but for the gain of those you hurt. This is a huge issue in christian communities where victims are expected to just forgive culprits, and culprits are allowed to be embraced regardless of if they made the proper efforts to fix what they've done. I can't say as much about the other abrahamic religions, because I never lived in them, but I did live in Catholicism for a while before detaching myself due to the harm it did to me. I can most certainly say that those years spent in the religion, I was the most ignorant about my flaws and ignorant about what taking responsibility is and what it means to forgive.

[@Countachockula]

Nothing ever comes between my children and me. I would never shun them for any reason whatsoever.

[@Tiny_and_Reese]

Thank God we have the internet where this terrible manipulation can be saved forever. Make the watchtower really sweat over the next "new light" they dare to put out. Good work

[@inescosta2671]

13:10 The fact that she got pushed away from her family is horrible, but the fact their brains were so poisoned to the point of the parents not letting themselves prioritize family in times of dispair and her feeling that by becoming free, discouvering herself and doing What's best for her she was actually going down a bad path is so so obscure. I am sorry for her and her kids, who grew up free and now will have to endure and adapt to a religion just bc their mother did not move on.

[@cataliaishere]

9:53 Man this video is basically gaslighting. They make the girl seem evil for simply falling in love. I've been out over 20 years. I have kids. I've had them on my doorstep. Thing is, I would never put my kids through that. I don't know any JW that would be out for 15 years and go crawling back. Sorry, it's so sickening to think I lived this religion for my entire childhood.

[@Mellymel1995]

I’m so happy I’m freee I just miss the way things used to be with my mother and sister. It’s so awkward now. They still reach out here and there with the “new light” but it’s weird. It’s been 3-4 yrs

[@dysonlogan3065]

My mother is JW and after leaving the religion at 14 I was shunned by everyone including my mother... To this day as a caregiver for Her as she's on her deathbed she still treats me the same

[@RasheedGazzi]

That's insane.

[@xgearheart8592]

Your very brave... Can't imagine how difficult it is to escape an abusive relationship of this level. I hope you have surrounded yourself with others that provide unconditional support.

[@EmmaChasteen-g7z]

If she shunned you, didn't that mean you didn't have any relationship anymore? How did you end up caring for her?

[@hwtvi3466]

It’s funny because “removed” honestly doesn’t sound that much better than “disfellowshipped”

[@mariekatherine5238]

Removed sounds worse. It implies removed permanently as in unalived.

[@united_europe]

No church should recieve gov funding

[@AcanthaDante]

And if they get tax breaks their spending should be made public record.

[@Duhble07]

A tax exemption is the same as funding them. They receive income from the state equal to the exemption reserved just for them. And they can spend the money on building a new Bethel.

[@MsSShowalter]

I have been disfellowshipped since 1987. I have no plans to return. My parents are so deep into the cult and my father is an elder. I pass

[@emilyh8696]

disfellowship makes me so mad

[@Jonathan_Grobler]

Brother, I was doing lessons with an elder before God showed me the truth. I dearly love that elder brother, and I hope he can come to the truth one day. He says he doesn't have a blind faith and is willing to test his faith.

[@IntegrationChaos]

This is sickening.Seeing mother portraid as a victim while she is ignoring her kid is sickening.

[@8michal5]

Thanks

[@exjwpandatower]

Thank you!

[@robotaholic]

A word does not exist for how much I abhor Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah, too. The evil Bible god makes me sick.

[@lanceberylgaming]

trauma from these videos is a special kind of iconic, saw that thumbnail and had a flood of bad memories. honestly can't bring myself to watch/stomach these kind of videos in my feed all the way through cuz the pain is just that deep.

[@Kimiyoutoob]

Sorry you had to experience this cult

[@cataliaishere]

Former JW - well from 4-18 years of age. So much bullying and nastiness especially by the children of "elders" and "ministerial servants". I was never good enough because I wasn't born into it. We weren't rich so another reason we were looked down on. I watched them be nice to homeless until they got baptised and then they ignored them. Worse 14 years of my life as I didn't belong "in the world" and no one wanted to be my friend in the religion. Did everything they said age 7 to work to be baptised. Got 58/60 for the questions. Failed two about marriage (I was 15 and answered that if my spouse died I would still be married to them - that was apparently wrong - the other question was similar) but was turned down so another girl could be on show to be baptised as the only one - yeah.... I walked away at 18 leaving everyone behind when I was the only one not invited to the engagement party of one of the girls my age. I knew I didn't belong there and now I didn't have to stay. I will never be in another religion again. I don't trust now. I hate what I was taught and how long it took to undo that.

[@Унмеито]

Trust me, JWs are a strange cult. At least for most other religions that are mainstream, they wouldn't do this garbage. Though if you do have interest in Christianity or something else, do lots of research. For Christanity, pick which denomination is for you after learning the basics of Christianity and learning about the general behavior of pseudo-Christian cults. For other religions, learn about them and try to avoid their strange cult splinters. If something is fishy, do not join it

[@JWpuffNstuff]

Excellent video. It’s the sickening truth of the “truth”. I’m disgusted to have ever been part of it. I know JW’s who feel strongly that disfellowshipping is wrong and not biblical and does not show love yet they go along with what the organization says hoping it will change and they will get “new light”. The recent very minor changes give them hope that it’s changing and evidence of Jehovahs love…I wonder why they don’t question why they have known this “new light” decades before the governing body and why Jehovah allowed so much pain and torture to “his people” before revealing this “new light”. This can be applied to the blood issue and their countless other nonsensical beliefs they follow mindlessly. None of it makes any sense. Ugh 😑

[@thetankteacher]

Leaving this comment for video interaction.

[@AtlasArtAnimation]

As a Christian… I just feel so sorry for the people who lives like this. I do not believe in sex before marriage, but but shunning a person for dating an unbeliever without actually talking and processing the situation is just wrong. Religion should not use family connections as a tool to keep people in line.

[@dugongsdoitbetter]

That's all religion is for !!! To keep people in line !!! It's the SOLE PURPOSE!!! All sects of religion have the "us" and "them" mentality. Go ahead and tell a Baptist you're Catholic or Methodist. What does the Jewish religion call non Jews?. What do Muslims call non Muslims? What do Christians call people who aren't saved? ALL RELIGIONS ARE CULTS!!!!

[@kokushiibou]

as someone who was raised in the religion, at the age of 18, i remember being in trouble texting a man who was not a jehovah’s witness. even without having even a remotely suggestive conversation with him. no clothes removed, everything squeaky clean and above board. i was too afraid of sinning to be the slightest bit sexual with him. but because i liked him and wanted to date him and he wasn’t a baptized witness, my parents threatened to remove me from the home. the elders were called to counsel me. he wasn’t even a bad guy. still isn’t. he’s a hard working and kind dude who i saw on facebook went on to marry a nice girl and start a family of his own. but he wasn’t a witness, so i was told i was risking my relationship with god if i continued speaking to him. that’s the level of control this cult has. it’s terrible.

[@jadziajagoda6187]

Everyone must see this video. Yes, shunning is psychological torture and many disfellowshipped people took their life. It’s a extremely destructive sect.

[@TH3RE4LKFC]

although i wasn't raised a jehovah's witness, i was raised an evangelical christian, and i REALLY hope those shunning policies apply to my family because i plan on going no contact on them once i'm able to move out💀

[@junjunjamore7735]

Damn.

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Did they make you life miserable?!.

[@TH3RE4LKFC]

@@AgnesBooth-zu7tw they tried to make me unfriend my best friend because they thought she (my best friend) was gay (she is straight and cisgender) and that we were dating or something (we're both girls so they would've hated that) + my mom broke my phone after finding out i was texting my bsf so tldr: yes, and i hate them

[@kay_ann]

12:47 that's called love bombing, a common brainwashing tactic.

[@deezedayze8550]

It’s a Cult……. The End

[@museumghost]

lol of course it’s the parents who chose a fictional sky deity over their own daughter who are the victims here 🙄🙄 there is nothing that my parents would choose over me

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Just bad Funny converting most flexible Buddhist to intorable JWs.

[@Унмеито]

Ephesians 5:25 It's mostly for loving your wife but in this case, you're supposed to also love your family as well. Though I don't get why JWs like pushing cult activities that are against the Bible while also pushing for Yaldabaoth worship

[@putnik805]

04:26 thats beautiful and not wrong at all. I h*te you watchtower

[@precious_muse]

I looked up the story of Nadab and Abihu to see if this part about Aaron was true, and I’m convinced that it’s not. He was told not to show signs of mourning and to continue his priestly duties, but he was also ordered to mourn along with his family. “But your kinsmen, the whole house of Israel, shall bewail the burning which the Lord has brought about” (Lev. 10:6). God specifically instructed them to weep for his sons’ sins. It made it seem like this story isn’t entirely harsh. So, I wonder what happened to Eric? Did he marry her? Is he her kids’ father? It’s a bit strange that he just disappears after she left.

[@MsWengee]

I’m sorry … every breath I take is for my kids. No matter what they do would I ever shun my children.

[@jemts5586]

I don't understand how they can go out and preach to strangers, not knowing who they're talking to. Could be atheists, former christians, ex JWs, people who are antireligion... They treat everyone else as a blank slate. Why not treat the disfellowshipped the same way? Why not keep reaching out to them the way they would a stranger? Such a disgusting practice. You're 100% correct, the families are victims too, but I still feel they should know better, put their love for family first. Smh

[@ZaxTax-h8t]

That's why you tell them to thump else where or you start rolling your eyes and speaking backwards while flashing devil horns till they go away

[@daniellecruz3311]

I like how one of your Patreon members has the username "The Governing Body." Also, I liked that Undertale background music in the end.

[@bekah2098]

I left the religion when I was 13 in 2013 and was an unbaptised publisher and my family has shunned me since. However, they will message me and tell me they love me just often enough to really mess with my head and upset me

[@smash461986]

They obviously dont love you. Sorry.

[@OverstimulatedConstantly]

I hope you get through this tough time 💕

[@dryxeyes]

If you could find the strength to block them, it may be a good idea, for your mental health. Also, im sorry they are treating you like that, you dont deserve that

[@josh_schroeder]

holy shit. that was the most twisted flick ive ever seen. truly terrifying. thanks for that. im gonna appreciate my childhood more. so sorry you had to go through yours. love these vids.

[@split776]

9:30 is so insane to me! I'd imagine parents are the most likely to convince a person to rejoin the cult - who are these two random people who found Sonja (did they stalk her?) and pointed at words on a page for her and how are they better to re-recruit her than a surprise visit from her parents? Also, it's strange to me that Sonja was apparently disfellowshipped for 15 years, some of them supposedly spent with Eric the non-believer, and not once did she doubt god?

[@sarahmason8154]

They needed to demonstrate a way for her to find her way back to Jehovah, which is super tricky if no one is talking to you. At the time this video was published, it appeared her only way back in was to attend a Kingdom Hall, and deal with all these eyes on you and no one saying Hello. They needed to feed her a re-entry script so a disfellowshipped person would know what to say to get back in.. "I thought my sin was too big for Jehovah". Now, due to their newfound, financially imposed enlightenment, they are now allowed to at least say "Hi, how are you?" How generous! I'm sure all the disfellowshipped will be immediately leave their new lives where they don't have to pester strangers going door to door like unpaid Kirby vaccuum cleaner salespeople, and rush right back in.

[@autisticchickens]

Thank you for being the voice for the rest of us! I was baptized at 10, reg pioneer for 10 yrs, married at 16. I was disfellowshipped 12 yrs ago and told I'm no longer welcome at my parents table. I haven't spoken to my family in that period. It's true you cannot make friends outside of the congregation. So when you leave, you're shunned, you lose EVERYONE. And you have no "worldly" friends, because, yes, they are bad association. SO yes, you are absolutely alone.

[@davidcd1401]

This video talks about something we all went through, pressure to get baptized young. When I was 12, we got a new Circuit Overseer, he had a 12 daughter who was baptized since she was 10, and of course, all the adults would use her as an example to all kids to get baptized that young, she was already a full-time publisher. I would roll my eyes every time anybody would tell me to be like her, I remember being that same age and thinking how ridiculous the whole thing was to get baptized that young, at that age all you think about is home work, playing games, TV. The last thing on your mind should be to go out and preach every day as a kid.

[@jita14]

Jehovah’s Witnesses came knocking at my door - a very friendly couple & their sister in law.Having been in a Christian Missionary boarding school as a child I loved Jesus but I was a Hindu free spirit at heart practicing meditation & chanting.We enjoyed talking in general over cups of tea .Then they started turning up on Sunday afternoons & bringing pamphlets for me to study & kept inviting me to their church round the corner so I told them I was too busy but they’re welcome to visit in the evenings for general discussions but I’d never convert & my family was just not interested either 🥲sadly they just never came back.I liked them 💔

[@trudieristich795]

You dodged a bullet.

[@twiggz1000]

My grandma was a Jehovah's witness. We never were, but that didn't stop her from talking to us. She just decided not to follow that part of the cult. I'm glad she didn't. but there were still parts of it she did follow that affected my dad more than me.

[@lokshok]

Thank you for sharing this.

[@DanielKevin-lg2fb]

0:20 the current video and thumbnail synched up.

[@RashoumonBonds]

It genuinely astounds me how family can just deadass pretend someone doesn't exist purely because of differing beliefs like ??? You finna take the side of a hypothetical being rather than the flesh and blood you RAISED? Like this shits real and its so insane that it happens WAY more commonly than a lot of people would probably think.

[@MarzannaMorana]

My childhood best friend was a Jehovas Witness. She could never celebrate anything! She couldn't even say the pledge of allegiance at school. It was so odd. Her parents were mean, too. 😔 I hope she's out of that "cult" now.

[@AndresMartinValienteEscurra]

Keep the good work Red