Explaining Gabby Petito's Autopsy Results With a Forensic Expert

This week on The Debrief, Pei-Sze Cheng takes a deep dive into this week's autopsy results in the Gabby Petito case, and talks with the team behind Wondery's The Vanished podcast about why some missing persons cases get more attention than others.
More on the case: Investigators have added a cadaver dog as part of their ongoing, exhaustive search of the 25,000-acre Florida preserve where Gabby Petito's fiancé Brian Laundrie allegedly said he was heading for a hike the day he disappeared, the assisting sheriff's office confirmed to News 4 on Thursday.
The Pasco County Sheriff's Office, which is about an hour and a half drive from the Carlton Reserve, which has been the focal point of the FBI's hunt for Laundrie since he vanished a month ago, said the human remains detection dog was requested.
A spokeswoman said the animal was provided at the request of both the FBI and the local North Port police department. She said her sheriff's office is the only one with that type of dog so it is in high demand, adding that Thursday isn't the first time her office has been asked to assist in this particular investigation.
The intensity of the Carlton Reserve search appeared to ramp up accordingly. NBC affiliate WFLA reported that multiple law enforcement vehicles were spotted on the Venice end of the reserve Thursday morning, marking the first time this week the affiliate's crews had seen activity at that entrance. There was a flurry of renewed activity last week, too, when Laundrie's father assisted in person for the first time.
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:50 Petito's Autopsy Results
17:30 What About Lauren Cho?
18:20 The Vanished Podcast's Take on the case

[@NBCNewYork]

Why do you think Gabby's case has gotten so much attention? Let us know in the comments.

[@ashley6984]

I wonder myself why. There was nothing spectacular about her 🤷‍♀️

[@bluebird7402]

Awareness needs to be brought to people’s minds. Somebody’s story has to be told to do this,

[@bluebird7402]

@@ashley6984 what a shallow, closed minded comment.

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

Because she was staring an online presence- because she was happy and bubbly. She seemed to have a zest for life. I also think everyone knew the outcome before she was found. Having said that lastly and most importantly it’s y’all. If she was a woman of color NBC wouldn’t be doing this story right now. So y’all in the media need to do better. I have no power to make a missing persons case go global … YOU DO. So ask yourself that question

[@mbr0916]

@@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766 Perfectly said! 🙌🏼 At the end of the day, media has the power.

[@TheSidhe1979]

The news media is seriously asking US why THEY don't bring attention to other cases?

[@jenniferperrier7563]

Ikr...Like we have any say...We certainly worry as much for the next gal/girl the media brings our attention to. Why ask us? Self retrospect

[@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587]

exactly wtf

[@OldSoulNewLife]

Bunch of sheep following these types of stories. Meant to keep you from what’s really going on. The government isn’t safe from Pizza gate . And they’re not safe from the cheat election

[@blondiek35]

exactly!!

[@VccTayla]

Mf we the PEOPLE not the news. A human cant sit here and know some died.. The NEWS TELL US. WTF YOU THINK ‘NEWS’ MEANT?

[@needlepullingthread1573]

Also in All honesty we need a TV station just for the MISSING people, all of them, my Aunt has a son who missing for 25 years, no one would run with it, she has No idea

[@SHAWNEESKYWALKER]

Actually, that's an excellent idea.

[@trailhopper883]

I was thinking the same thing the other day. Have it run 24/7/365 24 hours a day. It would prove to be well worth it one would think.

[@spaceballs44]

I like this I wonder where this idea well on Pluto tv would be a good place to start.

[@Julesorjulz]

This is brilliant

[@AShroudOfTruth]

How awful. So very sorry this happened to your aunt and her child. I can't imagine the horror she is going through.

[@linds8444]

I think the most telling thing against him is that he didn’t call the authorities when she “went missing”. If not him, then wouldn’t he have called for help instead of steal her car and leave her

[@gaelcarlton9182]

Did Brian ever state to his parents or anyone that Gabby went missing? Or what excuse did he use, their attorney who gave an interview last night on cable did not indicate that Brian had or had not told the parents...so he left a big void to wonder about didn't he?

[@Trobtwillis]

​@@gaelcarlton9182 I heard that Brian told his parents, "Gaby is gone." I don't know what else he might have told them.

[@Cheese_Meister]

That’s pretty horrific. They we’re probably just chillin and staring at the mountain, got into a stupid argument and he choked her to death. What’s worse is the parents said they’d hoped she didn’t suffer. As a competent swimmer, when the body needs oxygen it does some weird stuff to fight for air. There was probably a massive struggle on that little rocky outcropping in that completely scenic and peaceful looking park. So a sad and desperate and a totally unexpected place to die. Especially with someone you thought you could trust. Hope they find him and justice is served.

[@kiwigirlNZ]

They found him, dead.

[@manijohal]

It takes 4 - 6 minutes to manual strangle a person based on fitness etc - it’s not a 10 second thing like the movies - Brian would have been looking at Gabby all that time - he’s a monster

[@Nice-qi5cf]

I think he harbored fantasies of murder, for over a decade.

[@CJDcow]

I want each of you to name one supporting fact in this case which supports Brian having done this in self-defense. Please note that I am not asking for facts that do not support this theory. Only for facts that do support it. A response of no such facts exist means that you should not have posted a comment in the first place. Thanks.

[@BabylonPatrol]

@Kay Slay ... by the 'creepy guy' who probably killed turner/schulte... i would presume a so called 'spree killing', the connection being young, white, no males around youtuber/insta stars who were camping in somewhat isolated places.

[@manijohal]

@@CJDcow matey - my comment in no way, shape or form eludes to Brian L doing this heinous crime in self defence?! How did you get that from my comment ?! I speak the Queens English old bean - get with the program, are you another Yankee hocked up on goof balls ?!

[@bjcave2756]

@Kay Slay he did do it use your comment since

[@bm3211]

The reason hers got so much attention is 1) she was already on youtube so we got to travel along with her and made us feel closer to her. 2) the cop body cam got all of us invested in it

[@alyssanowak9272]

Others deserve as much attention as her case

[@LolaR2022]

@@alyssanowak9272 no ones doubting that. This was easily accessible, with a lot of material to share. Their life was out in the open.. look at any social media outlet and you can find an extensive Brian or Gabbys profile. Not many cases have the internet footprint these 2 do.

[@celineterra8107]

@@alyssanowak9272 that’s why her family made the gabby petito foundation. Don’t forget that

[@Leanne_w]

She made one video, did you even know about her KZbin channel before she went missing?

[@Julie86Mac]

And this took place across several states so multiple local news agencies in each state began talking about it and because it was across multiple states, the FBI got involved early on.

[@grammichal6759]

Gabby’s parents filed a missing persons report on September 11. Why weren’t her bank records immediately searched? Brian’s fraudulent use of her card would have given the police probable cause to arrest him immediately before he supposedly “went hiking.”

[@CaptainCaterpillars]

They didn’t know if she gave him permission to use the card or not. Just because the parents reported her missing does not mean she was missing to others. So the police couldn’t do anything till they found her alive or dead.

[@DrivenA111]

@@CyberAndy_ Yeah, I believe I saw her refer to the van as "theirs" on social media. Not sure why people keep saying it was hers. How do you know he was the owner?

[@lauraalbert679]

Because law enforcement doesn’t take these reports seriously until they are forced to. They need more training, oversight, and accountability when it comes to missing person cases. And then they will ACT instead of simply filling out a form. It’s terrible.

[@likeasir3015]

@@lauraalbert679 Says who? What evidence are you basing that off? Please describe the training that’s missing and what curriculum you would add in

[@AuroraMoon.]

Sometimes they leave them open to see if the missing person pops up or someone else who shouldn’t be using it

[@DoctorK279]

To: Ms. Gabrielle "Gabby" Petito's family, friends and loved ones, please accept our most sincerest condolences. FROM: some of us here in Windhoek, Namibia and Cape Town, South Africa. Although we don't know eachother and live vast lands and oceans apart, please understand that Gabby too, was as much our daughter, our sister and our friend, in as much as she was yours. What happened to Gabby can happen to anyone. May you find comfort in the midst of your overwhelming grief. The world is mourning with you.

[@SnakePlissken1]

Did you ad You should have gotten Gabby help & put her on medication 💊 before she assaulted someone!?

[@mommy2rae586]

@@SnakePlissken1 You can get tf out of here. You are a disgusting human. She is gone. Do you know what an abused woman goes thru? They will lie thru their teeth to protect someone they love. Go away.

[@emems6620]

@@SnakePlissken1 what’s you’re problem ? It’s just someone from the world like any of us feeling empathy for a poor deceased person. Get a life and a better value man

[@SnakePlissken1]

@@emems6620 I feel bad the parents of Gabby didn’t get her medication 💊 before she assaulted someone. I feel bad Gabby ran off in the woods by herself an got wrapped around a tree branch. I feel bad that people are sheep 🐑 & listen to the fake news opinions! I mean look at these fools, they have no evidence yet they want to hang Brian! It’s sad

[@anonamoose1891]

I’m sure they will get your message right away😂

[@cillalundstrom4064]

Pei-Sze Cheng is a great reporter. Treats the topics and interviewers with respect, asks relevant questions, stays personal and keeps professional integrity at the same time. Well done having her!

[@Ts-zy4bw]

She looks like she’s falling asleep during this interview

[@teeduck]

Average at best

[@yellowstonekv959]

Cilla Lundstrom, I agree. I like her too.

[@raymonvincent1783]

The Witnesses At The Mex Cafe Are Fake Cover Up Some Cops Paid A Visit Out To Spread Creek and Their DNA Is On Her Body Cover Up

[@cillalundstrom4064]

@@Ts-zy4bw Doesn't matter, she is asking great questions and is able to listen to the answers anyway.

[@cherylelancaster8791]

I really appreciate Ms. Cheng's interviewing skills. Rest in peace, Gabby.

[@bettyvanderhooven-schmaasc4235]

Hopefully, Gabbys case will catapult Missing Person Case Reform into the spotlight. I'm sick of hearing about cases where the S.O. kills the woman and he's not charged, cuz she's just missing.

[@kitcoffey7194]

REFORM missing persons protocols NOW, which would require going off of social media and expressing these opinions by phone or letter to your elected officials that you should have voted for. Make the people who you voted for do their jobs, and they literally should be serving the public... so you as the public... should be telling them what to do. This also applies for things like economic inequality and housing reform, literally they work for you, so tell them what you want reformed. The problem is that they need numbers to act on priorities, and elected officials definitely don't read social media, so they need to see those numbers in terms of calls and letters to their offices on whatever issues you feel are important and need action on. Pass it on, and then get off social media and call and write to your electeds.

[@thequintessential5503]

It makes my blood boil when a bright, vivacious outgoing empath who exudes light gets their candle snuffed out by darkness of an energy draining, narcissistic vampire

[@Nice-qi5cf]

Exactly

[@chrissymeri4957]

Ok...

[@indigos6232]

You worded this absolutley perfectly

[@rayvin2940]

Everybody Knows That Authorities Payed A Visit Out To Spread Creek

[@SnakePlissken1]

Have you lost your mind? Just watch the Utah police video. OMG what a freaking crazy weirdo chick she was. Gabbys parents knew she was crazy yet did nothing. Gabby should have been arrested in Utah.

[@elizabethg2062]

So the media is complaining that other cases don't get as much coverage.... After not covering other cases. The public is interested! We want to see more cases and get them solved. It's up to the media to produce.

[@Camille_Anderson]

i know!! the media telling us that the media doesn't cover enough of those cases ??? 🤔🤷 its their job, not ours lol!!

[@cont8155]

Not rly, unless they a pretty young white girl

[@noneof5492]

@@cont8155 You seem a bit racist. Like alot. Person, it is a person. Are you defined by your color? You probably are.

[@SnakePlissken1]

The MSM is fake news 📰 Brian is a free man. Sheep 🐑

[@raymonvincent1783]

@@SnakePlissken1 The Witnesses At The Mex Cafe Are Fake Cover Up Some Cops Paid A Visit Out To Spread Creek and Their DNA Is On Her Body Cover Up

[@MartaWomack]

My heart really goes out to Gabby's parents. As a mother, I can only imagine their grief. She was a beautiful, sweet young girl and she deserved to have a long, happy life and to be respected. Truly a horrific situation and I hope they catch that creepy murderer asap! Justice matters.

[@laurayarbrough4646]

Yes. If he is still alive i hope they arrest him.

[@helenaczekanska3513]

Found dead !!!!

[@laurayarbrough4646]

@@helenaczekanska3513 oh, yeah. I think I found out very soon after I commented on it here. Like same day or the day after. I've known for a while. Thank you!

[@alexhilton4657]

Yes so so sad!😥

[@alexhilton4657]

Yes so so sad!😥

[@natalierozean5989]

I think the coroner was so professional. A small town “Barney Fife” scenario could’ve easily taken place in such a sparsely populated jurisdiction. This coroner was top notch. It seems he let nothing slip through the cracks. Nor was there any small town gossip or slip of the tongue. Bravo.

[@kitcoffey7194]

THIS!!

[@afterthestorm221]

Prayers for Gabby's Mom and Dad, I couldn't imagine having to listen to this extremely graphic verbal reenactment of my child last fearful moments. 💚

[@augustrosepriv892.]

@Wadely Pierce Dramatic much.

[@urmom315]

@Wadely Pierce Your reply was.. not at all related to the original comment

[@SnakePlissken1]

Prayers for Brian & his family. Hopefully the fake news & corrupt FBI will discredited!

[@politicalpolitics7139]

@@SnakePlissken1 BOOTLICKER!!!

[@SnakePlissken1]

@@politicalpolitics7139 no truth teller!

[@TwinkieGurlMeowMeow]

It breaks my heart that Gabby lost her life to this, while Brian is still on the run from law enforcements. I hope he’s caught/arrested soon. RIP Gabby. 🙏😢

[@jenniferperrier7563]

True. I just have a nagging feeling that he ended it too. Such a sad outcome for 2 young kids. Happens all too much

[@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587]

he took the easy way out

[@emilinebelle7811]

He dead.

[@brentbailey7451]

Brians parents *in my opinion* should be charged for aiding him, i get its there child but it was a human life we are dealing with and i feel like they helped him escape...but that is my opinion.

[@gaelcarlton9182]

Wrong, they knew nothing about her death..Brian lied to them. They didn't want to get in the middle of Brian and Gabby's parents because they didn't realize he knew she was dead (what parents imagine there son is a murderer?) Brians remains were located today in the park where the parent originally found his car and then took it home still thinking he was perhaps still in the park and then took the car back the next day thinking he would need it....still a lot of information wasn't known to them..not until they found her body. Brian knew he would have to face prosecution and his parents had already been through so much with all the harrassment at their house..but in no way did they really know what happened until they found her body.....they they co operated with the police to find him. The parents were actually the ones that returned today where the car was at and found his back pack and some other items and turned them over right away to the FBI and they then started the search NOT in Carlton but another area which the parents had already told them about so why the FBI didn't check there is beyond me....but this whole time Brian has been dead.

[@DRIFTWOODJONES43]

@@gaelcarlton9182 agree

[@DRIFTWOODJONES43]

You must not have any kids at all

[@DRIFTWOODJONES43]

@Dami Welsh I wouldn't either I would encourage turning themselves in but never would it be me that does it

[@andreacruz7679]

I totally agree…I think the comments above don’t realize that if their son was a murderer than maybe there parenting should be questioned too and maybe they aren’t as innocent as they appear…they’ve been suspicious from the beginning

[@k22podcast6]

Amazing interview. I would have loved to have him as a professor. So knowledgeable and professional. Big ups

[@lewthrasher4194]

They could have a channel on TV only for incidents like this, missing people ect. It can run 24/7 . Networks may want to think of running a show.

[@lorig7077]

That's actually an extremely good idea. They should have a local one and a whole country one. They could do it for every state even. This kind of killing happens all the time every day. I don't understand why certain cases get more attention than others but it would be great to be more active about it

[@ravenharris1257]

GREAT IDEA

[@cherrymetha3185]

They used to have a show for missing people in the UK shown once a week . But it was scrapped as it did not get enough viewers .

[@albertawheat6832]

Trust me, they are filming it all, already.

[@aimeehoffman1481]

@@cherrymetha3185 I'm Australian here, we too used to have a weekly crime watch show called- Crime Stoppers! But it too was scrapped.... We need it now more than ever!

[@stroyer2103]

Imagine if we didn't have that info on that debit card, we wouldn't have the means to look for him and haul him in

[@VVSKO504]

My uncle is a coroner and conduct autopsy's and he said it's odd to do a cat scan so they definitely going to nail BRIAN L.!!!

[@charliecavanagh8217]

@Karen Corkern icicici if

[@katehere9783]

Would a Cat scan be used to detect bullets?

[@Justin.Martyr]

*Wut does Cat Scan have to DO with NaiLing Brian????*

[@ApatheticBlogger]

We wish :(

[@DoraWinifred]

The police: the first 24hrs is critical for missing persons Also the police: Wait until the person has been missing for 24hrs

[@lisahughes8779]

Yep. I’ve never understood that. The excuse has always been “wasting man power.” Or something to that effect. How about just taking a chance and looking anyway? Could very well save a life!

[@susanazinger2525]

And then there's ' 48 hours ' .....

[@lisahughes8779]

@@susanazinger2525 Yep

[@kitcoffey7194]

REFORM NOW, which would require going off of social media and expressing these opinions by phone or letter to your elected officials that you should have voted for. Make the people who you voted for do their jobs, and they literally should be serving the public so you as the public should be telling them what to do. This also applies for things like economic inequality and housing reform, literally they work for you so tell them what you want reformed. The problem is that they need numbers to act on priorities and elected officials definitely don't read social media so they need to see those numbers in terms of calls and letters to their offices on whatever issues you feel are important and need action on. Pass it on, and then get off social media and write to your electeds.

[@susanazinger2525]

@@kitcoffey7194 what if your elected (whom u didnt vote for ) are "shady" to say the least ...just because someone is an 'elected ' doesn't make them honest , doesn't give them morals ...

[@eilandwaynette]

They took a CAT Scan of Gabby's body 😱 I have never heard of an autopsy involving a full 3- dimensional view of the victim's body - looks like they are covering all the bases in this case -

[@katehere9783]

Would they be looking for bullets?

[@rayvin2940]

Everybody Knows That Authorities Payed A Visit Out To Spread Creek!

[@rachelhoyle5728]

@@katehere9783 I don’t think so. They do regular autopsies and find bullets. I have no idea why they chose to do a CAT scan. Maybe parents didn’t want her looked at that way? Meaning the old fashioned way.

[@katehere9783]

@@rachelhoyle5728 Oh ok thanks

[@LacedwithLacey2424]

Absolutely, they knew she would be cremated. So they checked every box. I’m so glad they did that. ❤️❤️

[@lisaozenich]

This is the first time I've heard him referred to as "on the run" and not "also missing" by the news.

[@JulieGilbert]

It's an intriguing case because it's unusually well-documented by the social media angles.

[@danvers2022]

They were already on social media with the record of their journey. When things went sour, the followers would be the first to show curiosity.

[@GalCharlotte]

Because they (Brian and Gabby) were very visible and open on many forms on social media. So social media gave her case so much more momentum because people felt like they got to know her before and after death.

[@PCBoardRepair]

yeah 1 youtube video is not social media....I have over 1000 videos

[@tei4273]

@@PCBoardRepair they're talking about the instagram accounts, which documented their whole relationship as well as the Van Life content.

[@Oceanrocks121]

She only gained a following after non-stop news coverage. She originally had less than 600 followers.

[@miriammaldonado7848]

And be there until this thing is incarcerated.

[@chloelee2997]

When the person you are dating slaps you, you need to leave and run as far away as you can and end the relationship immediately! No exceptions!

[@alexandralavigne8601]

Some people don’t have that luxury. You should think before you speak

[@rayvin2940]

Everybody Knows That Authorities Payed A Visit Out To Spread Creek

[@lindloser]

Not that easy

[@Mysteriuminiquitatis1998]

I wish it were that easy for some people. But you have people who are in abusive relationships and try to get away but the abuser makes it nearly impossible. Some people literally fear for their lives and have virtually no way out. I can’t imagine being in that kind of turmoil. Some abusers are so sneaky and conniving that they find ways to turn everyone against the victim, make the victim look like a crazy person. I’ve never experienced an abusive relationship myself but I would never tell a person who is experiencing it to “just leave” because it’s much more complicated than that for a lot of people.

[@SnakePlissken1]

Exactly! Brian was weak and nice. Once that crazy chick hit you he should have had her arrested. Utah Police should have arrested Gabby. Gabby was a weirdo crazy chick!

[@sonia354]

Bet Gabby never in a million years, thought that the photo of her with Angel Wings would be beamed all over the world. If her tragic death, makes just one person in an abusive relationship-reassess their own safety, and/or their children’s safety -then at least a tiny glimmer of hope can come from her death. In such a tragic situation-not helped by the actions or lack thereof of the ‘person of interest’ and his family, I can see why it’s important to Gabby’s family that it sends a message to others in the same situation Gabby was in before she was murdered.

[@spellywelly]

Amen. This is why I don’t object to the media referring to Laundrie as ‘Gabby’s fiancé’ or ‘boyfriend’. I know it stirs up a lot of anger and I appreciate why. However, it serves as a powerful message and warning to others who may be in love with a controlling partner. It’s the truth; Gabby’s life was taken by someone she had loved enough to get engaged to and trusted enough to take him with her on an extended road trip to remote places in a tiny van.

[@sonia354]

@@spellywelly well said!!! 💔🥀Thankyou for your comment. Obviously she never ever thought he would strangle her to death, or she would never have lived with him, got engaged to him(their wedding was put on hold due to COVID Gabby’s mother said)much less gotten into a van with him and travelled thousands of miles alone. She may have seen red flags….but ‘he’d never actually hurt me’….you can Imagine her ‘self talk’. Hindsight is always 20/20, so if people can use that hindsight from Gabby’s situation, and then attempt get themselves and/or a loved one out of a similar DVsituation, then, they may just be saving a life, and not adding another shocking statistic to the already appalling numbers of women that are murdered by romantic or ex romantic partners.

[@beckytick]

@@sonia354 you're right! How many people are living with the love of their life, making excuses for their behavior (future spousal) and think this is normal? This is how it's supposed to be. . I hope that the abused can see the similarities...

[@dianeasterling1592]

@@spellywelly ty for your comment. I was one of those that would get very angry when I heard ppl relate that he was her fiance, I now see it in a different perspective.

[@polyannamoonbeam]

Yes, well said. The sad part of this is the police interview to me. She was distraught and blaming herself ,he was laughing and blaming her. Witnesses attested to his antagonism and aggression to restaurant staff, to hitting her on the roadside ( same day, earlier) but they went with sobbing woman is aggressor, calm man is abused. What did they call it…? A “ minor” “ slap-fight”. Training and exposure has not sharpened their observation skills. Gabby said he was effectively choke gripping her jaw ,she had scratches on her face that burned her,she said. They focused on his “ injuries” . She was clearly in over her head and did not realise how bad her situation was. He murdered her by throttling her. What Gabby described,seated crying in the car was a previous throttle to her face and jaw. That little woman was too nice and wanted everything to be picture perfect romantic and blinded herself to the danger she was in. So sad.

[@dianaalbers6327]

Poor Gabby, you had a whole lifetime to live and it was taken just taken, I am so sorry, you are beautiful and I am sure your soul is too...fly high and free RIP Gabby

[@anlace3447]

lol...pretty sure she won't read this... how about spend your time and energy on people who are still missing now....

[@emersonmanning6523]

@@anlace3447 💥👍💥👍!

[@bubbles4096]

@@anlace3447 we can focus on other people missing but don’t be dismissive with this case. In other words, don’t be an ass. 👍🏽

[@dianeasterling1592]

@@bubbles4096 😂 I was so thinking the same

[@Justin.Martyr]

*GABS was the ONE who MADE HER Choice to PIK this SkuumBag,* *Over DeCent Men, that Gabs couLd have GoTTen🔥🔥🔥!!!* *Gabs CHOSE this SKuum & I have seen it TONS of Times, in My LiFe!!!*

[@yellowstonekv959]

Great interviews from Pei-Sze. Good job. Mr. Morgan is a wealth of knowledge. I could listen to him all day. First time seeing Ms. Coleman and also extremely informative on missing people. I hope we see more of these experts.

[@ashleys6807]

Her parents calling out Laundries parents is what I think sparked it, and sometimes tidbits shared about our lives just happen to go ‘viral’

[@FalconTypo6]

His parents are trash.

[@wandaglodowski9114]

Finally an intelligent, well spoken ,compassionate and direct young woman. Thank you Amanda.

[@debrasmith4247]

Amazing interview.. thanks to both. Prayers for Gabby's family she's become Our little girl too. God Bless. Prayers nightly. Debra

[@SableSunsets]

Talking about the manual strangulation in detail, definetly gave me some PTSD flashbacks.. God rest her soul

[@michwelle6467]

Brian literally needs to come back and toughen up about this, him on run just makes him more of a person of interest. If he was innocent and wanted to be proven innocent, providing evidence and proving you didn’t do it would make you innocent. Brian is literally just proving that he is more guilty than innocence.

[@BabylonPatrol]

'... to youtube true crime fans!' but they would judge absolutely anything to be indicative of his guilt. i believe brian is following his lawyer's advice and i've heard this defended by legal experts as correct. i think the main reasoning behind this is that investigation of other leads usually terminates when an arrest is made, with the building of the case using a lot of resources. apparently, the autopsy and dog reports didn't yield anything to make brian a suspect. - i would assume, all serious LE belives it's been the 'creepy man' who likely killed turner/schulte and try to bait him ... but let's see.

[@FalconTypo6]

@@BabylonPatrol "literally"

[@lisas856]

I bet he's dead

[@FalconTypo6]

@@lisas856 They just found his stuff and a body in the water. Women beaters can never face their own crimes. Everyone lost.

[@TheUnholyPosole]

Seems like they got in a fight, and Brian blew a fuse and choked her. I bet it was more of an emotional accident than a homicide.

[@sflxn]

It's just really sad that the authorities couldn't help her when she was alive. There really isn't anything they could have done if she rejects encouragement to separate. Parents need to talk to their daughters more about domestic disputes and when to leave a relationship. The reason this case is getting so much attention is because the shiftiness of that guy's parents. Obviously, the whole family is very shifty and cowardly.

[@kitcoffey7194]

and provide the economic support to make it safe to leave. women are not stupid and know when something isn't working. The rent is too damn high and it's often too hard to leave and as shitty as a potential mate is it's usually better than being in a homeless shelter. maybe the problem with America is make your homeless shelters better or maybe have more affordable housing so that we don't need goddamn homeless shelters.

[@biancadelarosa2173]

@@kitcoffey7194 I’m pretty sure if she wanted to leave she could’ve stayed with her parents to figure out what she’s going to do next and on top of that she could’ve broke off the engagement. Some people can just be crazy tho, he manipulated her and some people just fall victim to the manipulation. Then again, I doubt she ever told anyone else that he was being abusive to her, she probably kept it a secret but if I was her friend and she wouldn’t told me what was going on I for sure would’ve told her parents and the cops. Some victims just either are too afraid or they do not want to leave the relationship because they’re attached to the person or they don’t know what life would be like without them and they fear life without them. It’s honestly supper tragic and I feel so bad for her but I have seen so many cases too where people can know what’s going on with a couple who are being abusive and they try to separate them but they just somehow keep going back to each other and then this ends up happening.

[@rhondaadams4013]

Other than the evidence of strangulation, there could very well have been other wounds on her that were not the cause of death, but evidence of violence against her in those last moments.

[@marivipalomino6975]

Interesting interview. I think this case has drawn a lot of attention simply because she was a public person, posting her trip along the way, young, beautiful, living an apparently carefree life. Many people felt touched by that body cam video, seeing her so distraught, a 911 called reporting she was being hit by her partner. So went she was found dead, and her boyfriend went on the run everybody felt for her and just wants to crucify him.

[@June-tb4vi]

How many followers did she have...not many until death...sad

[@carolbell8008]

Hoping for the chair.

[@joelsommer5765]

She had just started her blog and videos though. They weren't famous yet. In fact almost all the views and social media traffic came when she went missing. And the media has over exaggerated when they said "famous KZbin vlogers". There's only 1 video on their Facebook channel.

[@rosamunoz7066]

when the police gave gabby her car keys how did she get back with her boyfriend knowing he was violent

[@superjaded1738]

The parents are helping to keep him out there!

[@pokerjenta]

TO BRIAN AND HIS FAMILY;; ACTION SAYS 1000 TIMES MORE THAN WORDS/SILENCE!!!

[@SnakePlissken1]

What actions? Not talking? Sounds very smart to me.

[@elexust730]

@@SnakePlissken1 running away is an action. Not responding to family texts asking where there daughter is an action….

[@SnakePlissken1]

@@elexust730 if some chick assaulted me & then took off cause she’s crazy, her parents txt me I’m gonna tell them to pound sand! If a crazy chick assaults you then run 🏃‍♀️ Smart Kid

[@lexuses3942]

@@SnakePlissken1 Do you’re so pathetic, stop acting relevant in anything…you probably can’t even get a girl little boy

[@sciencelover404]

@@SnakePlissken1 it’s not smart lmao the silence is a dead giveaway that he was involved

[@kathyerb3134]

I'm in Canada, but I will share this info with others. I have several grandkids. Great podcast. Thanks so much.

[@leongt1954]

I saw a TV program where a criminal psychologist and profiler said when the police pulled them over that the cops got it all wrong in blaming Gabby and could have avoided her death

[@kitcoffey7194]

REFORM missing persons procedures NOW, which would require going off of social media and expressing these opinions by phone or letter to your elected officials that you should have voted for. Make the people who you voted for do their jobs, and they literally should be serving the public so you as the public should be telling them what to do. This also applies for things like economic inequality and housing reform, literally they work for you so tell them what you want reformed. The problem is that they need numbers to act on priorities and elected officials definitely don't read social media so they need to see those numbers in terms of calls and letters to their offices on whatever issues you feel are important and need action on. Pass it on, and then get off social media and write to your electeds.

[@joycecourts7403]

They don’t want to make any charges until this is AIR TIGHT

[@rezopolis]

really

[@jamesparsons9068]

Because people tend to be interested in 'what really goes on behind the perfect front-door' stories. Gabby and her fiancé looked like the perfect couple and her social media image projected harmonious bliss. Cartwheels in the sand, BBQing on the beach, endless romance, living their dream and breaking away from the 'rat race'. The reality was that it was a nightmare. They argued like *all* couples do about mundane things, they didn't really stay in the van but frequented hotels to no doubt get a hot shower and clean up. Let's face it living in a van for months on end isn't bliss, it is probably a hygienic nightmare. Yes we all made mistakes and did stupid things when we were young - mine was a camping trip with friends one summer to France. Where we finally realised that young French women were not attracted to semi-literate, badly dressed, unkempt looking young men who hadn't showered in days. But Gabby's trip had a Shakespearian tragic ending and this really attracted the attention of the public, not just for voyeuristic reasons but the realisation that this could be you or this could be your child. Gabby appeared innocent, even childlike, with a desire for perfection that you will not find in a van travelling cross-country. She was also likely prone to the odd crying fit when she felt under stress, as we see from the video interaction with the police. This is no criticism of her but just an aspect of her character, I don't think she had OCD in the clinical sense but rather was neat, tidy and orderly and this was likely a form of coping mechanism when stressed. I, and I presume many others, find straightening things out or organising things to be relaxing. It's not a 'condition' if it only takes a few seconds. On the other hand, he clearly had serious anger management issues - the incident in the restaurant where he repeatedly went back in to re-argue a losing argument was telling. We all know the type, they don't cool off but get angrier and angrier and keep returning to 'have it out'. For these two to try to live in a confined space was a lit fuse waiting to go off. This reality contrasted with her social media soft-focus perfect life veneer and probably trapped her. She couldn't admit the nightmare she had stumbled into because her blog was about perfection and bliss and with no safety valve for either of them or people to intervene the outcome was all but a foregone conclusion.

[@boatrvme8478]

One of the most sane comments I've read during this circus. I agree 100%. I made a comment that Gabby may have been battling some of her own demons and I'm sure that's what police saw in Moab.

[@kitcoffey7194]

This is a very well written and astute summation of what probably happened and why this case is so interesting. When you make your life a professional/aspirational glorification of "van life" and then there's dark things under the surface, I don't care who you are, that's going to be intriguing. That said, this case has generated a lot of talk about bringing in other, more diverse, missing person stories. Let's see if the media holds itself to task and actually practices what it's preaching once this case has been resolved. My theory is that all the talk is actually just to quiet people uncomfortable with the amount of publicity that this case received, to distract from the ways in which media engages in sensationalism for profit. I'm sad to say that I doubt there will be more coverage of other missing persons once this case has been resolved.

[@kitcoffey7194]

@@boatrvme8478 Maybe, but having a mental illness (and she probably did not, self-diagnosis can cause more harm than good) is not a fatal crime. No one should be DEAD because they're "mentally ill" or "atypical."

[@jamesparsons9068]

@@kitcoffey7194 Your scepticism is probably well-placed, once this is over - and I suspect they have just found his remains so it nearly is - then the media will lose interest in any other cases. The harsh reality is the media are only interested in certain cases which their audience will find interesting i.e. the middle-class people who consume their media. And mea-culpa it's what drew me to the case. It feeds the fears of people who can see themselves both as Brian, Gabby and their parents e.g. could my boyfriend be like this? Could my son/daughter be in such a relationship? Although the Wells case probably proves that every rule has exceptions.

[@MarvoloSalazar]

man put some paragraphs on your statement for the love of God

[@lisaverducci6326]

sad the police chose his side so sad

[@Polish2317]

100%

[@JewandGreek]

They sided with the evidence

[@DR-tm6co]

@@JewandGreek they ignored evidence that she was also physically assaulted, they ignored the marks on her….the evidence showed he was also being physical with her and they choose to ignore literally everything that would indicate Brian was abusive. They didn’t even ASK who’s van it was, they ignored the fact that he was LOCKING HER OUT OF HER OWN VEHICLE, And in so her own HOME. They ignored the evidence of her being the actual victim…what are you talking about?

[@JewandGreek]

@@DR-tm6co These officers are trained to make these observations and handle these situations unlike you and I. She had one mark on her face, and when they asked her about it she said that he grabbed her face and that was where his thumbnail scratched her. She also stated that she hit him first. So it was reasonable for him to grab her to stop her from hitting him. The mark on her face was a defensive wound. And the reason he locked her out of the truck was so that he would calm down. She obviously was not a very emotionally stable person. Maybe if they had had her locked up for the night she would have learned her lesson and this whole thing could have been avoided.

[@JewandGreek]

@@helen2197 What evidence do you have that she falsely took responsibility? All of the evidence indicated that she was attacking him and he was defending himself. They checked with another witness and that Witness confirmed that she was hitting him.

[@nora_nayeli]

Poor Gabby, she didn't have to die. All Brian had to do is turn the van around back to Florida allowed her to get her things and each one go their own way. He took a life that had her whole life ahead and caused heart break to Gabby's family and even his own family (even if they are sketchy AF) he caused hearth break to his parents and took his own freedom away. Rest in peace Angel. May you rest in peace watching over your loved ones. ❤️

[@vich8810]

I love how everyone assumed it was him that did it from the beginning. You know he's dead too now, right? I actually thought it was a robber/murder or maybe someone who targeted them for another reason from the beginning. If you study other cases where people go missing in the wilderness, you'll see the same similarities. Chances are it could have been a serial killer as well. If there is no evidence, no witness and no confession you can literally get away with murder. Even a confession can't necessarily be used in court because it's circumstantial.

[@bettygoodbody]

Because he was a selfish creep

[@nora_nayeli]

@@vich8810 I'm all for conspiracy theories however I don't think a serial killer killed Gabby. It's true there is a very small chance that Brian didn't do it however I think if it was a serial killer 1) Brian and Gabby where both camping out together if someone else done it I'm sure both of them would have been killed and left in Wyoming. 2) Why did Brian withdraw $1000 from Gabby's account after she had been killed 3) why did he come home and not tell the police or Gabby's family what happened nor reported her missing 4) why did he make a run for it 5) on the 911 call it is reported he put hands on her. Even though Gabby tried to cover for him if you look at the footage from the police Body cam, Gabby had marks on her face.5) he was the last person to see her. There is just so many things that leads the police to make him the only person of interest and usually when a serial killer or someone targets someone they kill them right there and then. I don't think they would kill Gabby in Wyoming and travel and track Bryan down in Florida and killed him too. I think that his parents knew where he was hiding all along and once they hadn't heard of him for a while the parents decided to go check on him. They have been reported to have burner phones even though they are denying it. That's why it took them 30 minutes or less to find him. So the FBI and volunteers didn't find him for nearly a month but it took two senior citizens to find him in 30 minutes. They had to know something. He either died because of the elements or he committed suicide. I don't think he was victim to foul play

[@LuxMeow]

@@vich8810 What, he's a narcissist and there was no robbery. Holy!

[@Ezinma88]

Well, she was young, pretty and white. She had a great figure. She was middle class - so right there a lot of parents and people are able to project their kids onto the canvas of Gabby. There is a lot of great quality footage and content of Gabby, particularly where we get to see her sunny personality come through. There's also a lot of content with her and her boyfriend. It's all very aspirational, Instagram living where people are slightly jealous that they're out having the adventure of a life-time. And, yet, as with a lot of true crime, the perfect couple were quite different when the camera turned off. Also, there's that police footage. That was a 'near miss', a crossroad where it feels like slightly different behaviour would have avoided this outcome. All of those things in combination will already be attractive to the mainstream media, let alone everyone else. Not to mention Brian's odd behaviour that pointed to a true crime mystery. Returning without his girlfriend? Refusing to answer questions? Speaking to a lawyer, but not Gabby's parents. I can see why this has blown up. I just hope they catch the boyfriend very much alive. I'd also appreciate some sort of platform where other missing cases could be given a higher profile. I appreciate that human nature means that we are all more interested in cases that resonate with us on a personal level e.g. we come from the same geographical location, we've been in that type of toxic relationship etc. But, I think if missing person's cases had similar amounts of high quality content it would make a difference in coverage. Sad, but true.

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

Because there's alot more of us in relationships like this one, we seen ourselves in the body cam videos. Victims recognize abuse of others.

[@kitcoffey7194]

REFORM missing persons protocols NOW, which would require going off of social media and expressing these opinions by phone or letter to your elected officials that you should have voted for. Make the people who you voted for do their jobs, and they literally should be serving the public... so you as the public... should be telling them what to do. This also applies for things like economic inequality and housing reform, literally they work for you, so tell them what you want reformed. The problem is that they need numbers to act on priorities, and elected officials definitely don't read social media, so they need to see those numbers in terms of calls and letters to their offices on whatever issues you feel are important and need action on. Pass it on, and then get off social media and call and write to your electeds.

[@nicolaskasso9855]

I hate to break the news but Brian's skull has been found along with his backpack and journal in Carlton Reserve, the last place he was found out. They identified his teeth by dental records and have confirmed that the skull is his. It sucks we won't ever get justice for Gabby or know the reasons why he murdered her.

[@Ezinma88]

@@nicolaskasso9855 This is such sad news. Hopefully though, he was at least honest about his reasons in his journal. And, hopefully, it's not too water-damaged to read.

[@bettyvanderhooven-schmaasc4235]

Hopefully, Gabbys case catapults missing persons policy reform. "Treat it like a crime until you know no crime has occured?

[@jessehiggason]

Hopefully not. Wtf

[@donfrederick01964]

Prayers to Gabby and her family

[@kathyetter2529]

Prayers for gabby parents I hope Brian is caught soon justice for gabby

[@JB-wq2mk]

@@larryswift3442 kind of like any thoughts in your little, tiny mind.

[@suchafknladyyy5780]

@@JB-wq2mk 😭😭😭😂😂😂

[@dianeasterling1592]

@@JB-wq2mk 😂

[@dianeasterling1592]

@@larryswift3442 go away Troll

[@moonie9000]

He admitted in his journal that he did it, but he claimed it was a mercy killing. My question is do the other injuries support the idea that she could have been in an accident first, before being killed in "mercy"?

[@adriannachapmanz]

I'm not too fond of the media asking us why certain cases are more popular than others because it's usually up to them; but I'm very thankful they're starting to have these conversations more openly, and I hope they evolve to be even more self aware.

[@yenylevano221]

Aghhh

[@MCHCMCH]

Brian laundry did it and Brian laundry parents helped him to run from the law

[@triscuit2314]

definitely im just wondering if it was during anything sexually intimate, which would maybe explain why hes on the run and scared and his parents helping him. still homicide, but just why is what im wondering. they seemed like a happy couple

[@bldlightpainting]

@@triscuit2314 disgustingly depraved!

[@MandySher70]

@@triscuit2314 not buying that.

[@triscuit2314]

@@MandySher70never said i was either. i know he did it. i wanna be a forensic investigator, and what i stated earlier, is just a speculation.

[@lashaygonzalez485]

@@triscuit2314 most definitely wasn’t a happy couple… Gabby seemed way happy than he was …

[@marisdiaz4789]

What about the girls that. Got killed in the same area, we should hear more about their case

[@francih923]

Ive heard

[@freeradical8440]

I have been following that story, some people think Brian did it, he was right in the area at the time.

[@lalalola4479]

Gabby we saw on police video camera and when her parents reported her missing a lot us saw ourselves and knew she was dead it hit home. He was speeding to get away from the cops he hit the curb why because she hit his hand so he would stop for the cops he was speeding because someone saw him slapping and hitting her and he knew the cops were called she repeated to cop what he said when they question him and he looked at her and than ask her to step out of the car you know the rest we all pray this would turn out different SORRY GABBY R.I.P and the 2nd caller who wasn't sure who if she was hitting him couldn't make up his mind

[@chrissymeri4957]

Those of you saying Gabby is "prettier" and that is why she is getting more attention are literally the problem. Gabby is not "prettier" than the other girls. How dense can you be? That is all a matter of opinion. And clearly it's YOUR OPINION that she is "prettier" and saying that makes you all look kinda ugly in this situation. Gabby's case is different because the FBI is investigating. It's gone state to state. Other cases have not. And on top of that, Gabby and Brian had a social media trail that makes it much easier to follow their storyline. Those other 2 girls don't have anyone in specific that is a person of interest either. There are so many more unknowns. I think that Brian killed those girls tho too TBH.

[@freeradical8440]

@@chrissymeri4957 agree, I watch canam missing chan...a lot of times I look up cases mentioned. Gabby was mentioned, so I looked up, then I heard her BF was home and didn't report her missing. The rest is history I started watching everyday from then on.

[@sdmakeupandentertainment]

I think they were fighting in the van and he had likely just killed her in the van just before that blogger drove by with the van. He shut the door so nobody would see in the van. Then he waited till night time to place her where she was found. After calling mommy she told him to create an alibi by hitchhiking. Later he drove home and lawyered up like mommy instructed.

[@suzannefree9305]

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THATS WHERE GABBY FLOP WAS FOUND MAKE PERFECT SENSE

[@cherrymetha3185]

The family went on a camping holiday shortly after he returned . I’m wondering if Gabby’s body was still in the van and they all went together to place her where she was found ? Or they went camping to hide other evidence ?

[@SnakePlissken1]

You are wrong since the video clearly shows Gabby alive an in the Van while Brian is over 8 hours away when she died. Makes Brian a free man.

[@kimmayo7251]

Agree

[@sdmakeupandentertainment]

@@SnakePlissken1 It shows nothing of the sort. You obviously have not been following the case.

[@imzadii141]

I applaud you for being interested in other missing cases. I hope that the attention you give to these other cases will help other people get involved in these old or new cases. Keep up the work and bless you for your voice.. Hats off to you....

[@kitcoffey7194]

REFORM missing persons regulations NOW, which would require going off of social media and expressing these opinions by phone or letter to your elected officials that you should have voted for. Make the people who you voted for do their jobs, and they literally should be serving the public... so you as the public... should be telling them what to do. This also applies for things like economic inequality and housing reform, literally they work for you, so tell them what you want reformed. The problem is that they need numbers to act on priorities, and elected officials definitely don't read social media, so they need to see those numbers in terms of calls and letters to their offices on whatever issues you feel are important and need action on. Pass it on, and then get off social media and call and write to your electeds.

[@wendydayz6673]

She was on KZbin, her father talked to anyone who would listen, her bf came back with her van and not her. A lot of things got this case attention. I believe if it were anyone in a similar situation, that had a positive outlook on life, would get the same attention, given they had all the same attributes.

[@tarantellalarouge7632]

also she was a beautiful young lady with a lot of videos and photos materials and maybe there were not much interesting things to put on air for the medias (usually in France it is the same, the cases happening in august may receive more attention)

[@Justin.Martyr]

*YEAH LIKE BLOND HAIR!!!*

[@wendydayz6673]

@@Justin.Martyr whatever, when Floyd was done wrong in public, it was all over the news!

[@rayvin2940]

Everybody Knows That Authorities Payed A Visit Out To Spread Creek

[@danielgaddis7496]

If Brian DIDN'T kill Gabby how would he be acting since he left Wyoming.

[@Justin.Martyr]

*MoRon*

[@BabylonPatrol]

that question - in general - got me interested in these cases in the first places. nobody seems to be interested in this question. the low quality of the youtube mob response suggests what all legal experts and defense counsel would advise: ESPECIALLY if you are innocent, get a lawyer who is specialized on the type of case, do not talk to anybody, especially media. if anyone gets creepy or pushy on you, put your things in order at home and go under. - your best bet is that they find the real killer or exclude you via DNA before they can indict you. - by the way: why isn't brian a 'suspect'?

[@ianimal36]

There was a similar case, a couple was on an extended road trip in the mountains on the border of France and Spain and she disappeared on a solo day hike. He reported her missing and didn't leave the area, and was the one who eventually found her body, she had fallen. I think that's more in line with what an innocent person would do, not take the van and the money and flee the scene.

[@teamcougars]

Innocent people get a lawyer they don’t go on the run hello 🤦🏼‍♀️😡

[@strong4865]

@@teamcougars An I innocent person would go underground with a lynch mob tramplig the crime scene. Honorable the way Florida let this get out of hand 👏

[@delanamcclusky-meza243]

This was great information, great interview. Thank you

[@lorrainegunn4111]

Wonderful advice we received from Amanda! So many things we have not known about finding our loved ones - especially the "_____ hours since they were last seen" thing everyone has heard on Crime shows on TV.

[@kitcoffey7194]

REFORM missing persons regulations NOW, which would require going off of social media and expressing these opinions by phone or letter to your elected officials that you should have voted for. Make the people who you voted for do their jobs, and they literally should be serving the public... so you as the public... should be telling them what to do. This also applies for things like economic inequality and housing reform, literally they work for you, so tell them what you want reformed. The problem is that they need numbers to act on priorities, and elected officials definitely don't read social media, so they need to see those numbers in terms of calls and letters to their offices on whatever issues you feel are important and need action on. Pass it on, and then get off social media and call and write to your electeds.

[@brendamoyer2387]

She must of felt so alone. My prayers for her and her family. To young

[@airam-sj2172]

Gabby's smile was as a sunny and beautiful day. It gives me a sensation of well-being whenever I see her smiling.

[@SnakePlissken1]

Gabby was a complete weirdo freak chick. Gabby should have been arrested in Utah. This is crazy.

[@lexuses3942]

@@SnakePlissken1 Nope, she was gorgeous and you’re just jealous…period. She was also MURDERED….you’re weak

[@SwampDweller67]

@@lexuses3942 Weak? Snake would beat your ass any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[@lexuses3942]

@@SwampDweller67 😂😂😂😂 you’re hilarious. The fact that you say that without knowing me says it all..I’ll put you and that little boy in his place…cry more

[@SwampDweller67]

@@lexuses3942 The fact that you say that without knowing me says it all. Bring it.

[@jamiekirkland7918]

Amanda you were so concise and right about the situation. Keep doing what your doing. ❤️

[@aaaabbbb5899]

An absolutely brilliant coverage! Lots of useful info for anybody who lives in the US!

[@One.--]

Brian beat had beaten Gabby, Brian was jealous of Gabby, Brian tried controlling Gabby, Brian caused mental anguish to Gabby, Brian had multiple times confrontation with other people in public, Brian played the cops, Brian drove the vehicle to the last location where Gabby was found, Brian has a video of him closing the door of the Van very slowly at Gabby's murder location, Brian uses Gabby credit cards, Brain arrived back home to mommy & daddy without Gabby, Brian wouldn't talk to anyone, Brian lawyered up, Brian goes camping with mommy & daddy, Brian goes missing maybe because of all the scratches in him from Gabby fighting for her life from this animal, Brian is on the run & hes not a survivalist hes a dirty bag want to be hiker loser. It all adds up to a mountain high of dirty laundry that sinks really bad.

[@SnakePlissken1]

There’s no evidence of that. Gabby was a weirdo crazy chick. That’s what we have evidence of. Utah Police suggested Gabby be put on medication 💊. I’m sure she ran off & got tangled around a branch.

[@lexuses3942]

@@SnakePlissken1 You’re sure of nothing except that daddy will be home soon and you better get your room cleaned little boy. Gabby was murdered…and you think you’re intelligent trying to justify MURDER. Even if she was crazy she deserves to die? Don’t go into public little boy…I’d LOVE to see you

[@isa12315]

@@SnakePlissken1 why are u replying to every single comment saying gabby is a weird chick and crazy?? why are u so interested and click a video and watch it and take time to comment this many times if you “don’t wanna hear about it”

[@SnakePlissken1]

@@isa12315 No No I didn’t say is I say Was! She was freaking wacko. You didn’t watch the Utah police video? If you didn’t see a weirdo come out you have no clue. It brought back memories of some freaks I had! Wow a crazy chick

[@isa12315]

@@SnakePlissken1 I saw myself reminded of the abusive relationship I thankfully was able to get out of. But if that’s wacko I guess I am too. I hid it from police as well answering the same way as her.

[@eyewristchin]

Choose your partners wisely.. that’s what I’m getting from all of this. Could cost you your life.

[@nychic2387]

Sometimes even when you “think” you know someone, they can turn out to be someone totally different and unfortunately put you in grave danger . My heart breaks for Gabbys family n friends

[@moow950]

Absolutely! Some people, especially women, attract somehow very bad people as partners.

[@Justin.Martyr]

*GABS was the ONE who MADE HER Choice to PIK this SkuumBag,* *Over DeCent Men, that Gabs couLd have GoTTen🔥🔥🔥!!!* *Gabs CHOSE this SKuum & I have seen it TONS of Times, in My LiFe!!!*

[@explained3799]

@@Justin.Martyr - a lot of people are addicted to adrenalin... starts in the womb. Adrenochrome - supposedly a very high high - is the choice of the "elite" - of which I believe Brian was a part of, for early police reports state that he was born into "the Craft", which refers to secret societies. Find another nice woman for a mate... don't regret the ones who are addicted to adrenalin, for they will turn a nice man into a monster, just to get their adrenalin fix... well, same thing goes for men who provoke women into monsters to get an adrenalin fix. It's a really icky game but too too common. This world is under the spell of fear (which is opposite Love)... have you noticed?

[@FalconTypo6]

Record what's REALLY happening, and get help... not fake a "perfect" relationship or road trip to the entire internet, instead.

[@mrs.c5022]

I just can’t imagine, how a “relatively” regular person can hold someone down, look into their eyes, & continue to choke the life out of them. The complete horror, terror, pain, & fear she must have felt until her mind went dark. God rest her soul!🌌

[@jbirdjiggly6149]

Because anyone is capable of snapping and losing their shit and murdering someone. Killers don’t have a certain appearance. The prettiest person can be a killer or the ugliest it doesn’t discriminate.

[@kathyjohnson9604]

I don’t BELIVE I could snap and kill anyone unless I walk in and caught somebody molesting a child or to defend myself I couldn’t just kill someone there’s something wrong to be able to kill someone over rage

[@bettyvanderhooven-schmaasc4235]

From what we've learned about Brian, he's an insecure & jealous man. I'm gonna guess that he carried huge amounts of RAGE.

[@CoExist64]

@@kathyjohnson9604 You are correct ma’am, anyone who says that I am capable of taking a life is sorely mistaken. But yes, when people mess with kids (or my Mom or partner) then I see red, but taking a life is one of the Big 10 and I won’t break those.

[@kitcoffey7194]

Surely an "insanity" defense will be attempted of ever found...but running is an ondocator of mens rea

[@smithgorrilugum4574]

If Brian was wearing a Covid mask, a wig or a cap, sunglasses, and gained weight, he could bump into you on the sidewalk and you'd be none the wiser.

[@midnightmelody1118]

Literally would just have to grow his hair out.

[@sofialee49]

@@midnightmelody1118 hair transplant?

[@Justin.Martyr]

@@sofialee49 *MoRon*

[@rayvin2940]

Everybody Knows The Authorities Payed A Visit Out To Spread Creek!

[@janetjanetttt]

He could easily wear a mask and go buy a wig

[@Mantaracer]

Gabby got the peoples interest due to her vlogs and the cop videos which most other cases don't have! Likewise for George Floyde! The videos MATTER!!

[@lorrainewhitten8522]

Good point..

[@tiffaneygerlach623]

Thank you for pointing that out!

[@Batya-Grace]

Brian isn’t just silent. 🤦‍♀️ He is on the run!

[@Uhtredrag1080]

Looks like he's dead, now.

[@wtzan]

he's survivor man, living off the land

[@PsycheDismantled]

I think her story went viral because she was so very beautiful, young, and had a free spirit energy that people naturally gravitate to. How that monster put his hands around her throat and took her life makes me rage.

[@motherboard424]

Wow. Best follow forensics of any on this case, that I’ve read/watched

[@kathyfann]

They had a lot of social Media posts so they were definitely more famous had lots of followers so obviously that’s why so many of us are Familiar with them.

[@josephconnor2310]

Morgan is a very articulate guest.

[@tamara8088]

This is a very enlightening interview.

[@christines173]

Excellent reporting! Great interview! Great interview testimony! Very informative. May this young woman rest in peace & let her family have justice or some resolution & closure so that they might find peace

[@GroovyFeminist]

If a female friend or relative insisted that a case be taken seriously in the first 24 hours she would probably be called a Karen.

[@Justin.Martyr]

*KAREN*

[@dal8963]

So are you saying "Karens" are actually helpful and even a hero if her instance aids in saving a life.....as if being called a Karen would stop anyone from demanding their lost loved one is found and saved they are living in a high state of fear.

[@kitcoffey7194]

This. Karens are BULLIES, not any woman who asserts herself, contrary to public belief. Pass it on

[@edwardhart7466]

Really can't pin down the reason for Gabby getting so so much attention . It all started with the police stop when the coward Brian was reported to 911 for hitting Gabby . She is or rather very young and very beautiful . So many people become very concerned for Gabby because we all know who killed her - I don't even like mentioning this creeps name . I just pray they find him before the sun goes down today so he can get convicted of this horrendous and insidious crime against Lovely Gabby so he can suffer the mistreatment waiting for him in prison by real hard core criminals that have a zero tolerance for this creeps kind . He will suffer by the hand of convict's waiting for him . His teeth will knocked out one day , the next day his his jaw will be busted , the day after that his hands will be severely broken and it only gets worse each encounter with this creep , then he will be strangled by his own cellie . That is the way prison is - I'm not proud to say I been there , but I've witnessed countless ugly ugly beat downs before they finally take him out . Excuse me dirty laundries - the things mentioned above is waiting for your coward creep son is definitely waiting for him and you can't help him , the correctional officers won't help your boy because they will be the one's to set him up and turn there back on him during every single altercation . Hope you understand , but that is prison - he will be treated like a child molester . It is very very ugly undescribable . But he will get his attention inside prison - believe that . - you'll hear all about it . Laundry family.

[@davebellamy4867]

That's why he's already in Cuba!

[@professorsprout3382]

I live in Santa Cruz and love the Pleasure Point area. Every day I see what I'd call "kids" young 20 year olds having a wonderful time with transit vans and campers. Gabby did come here around the time she and her killer went to SF. Folks will go see SF and then Big Sur. We all need a break and the beach van thing looks so fun. I always just hope and actually say prayers as I cruise by that none of the lovely visitors we get have a traumatic violent end to their exploring. You have the right to be safe and take in nature without being murdered or raped. Honestly I don't go on hikes alone because of my fear of being harmed. Thats a terrible loss in ones life to not go.We need to have documentaries on all the innocent folks killed and vanished all races and ages of missing people.

[@cabinlifeatedensprings1710]

I believe Brian is responsible for several murders and they all need to investigate and be looking at him.

[@doriemckay6935]

I dont believe he is a random killer. I think he's a DV killer. Many women are murdered in abusive relationships. He'd had a lot of mental health issues that were disturbing. I just heard on inside Edition that the hunt for him has resulted in finding other missing people consequentially. chilling.. they deserve to be mentioned too.

[@barbaradavis8686]

Because cops failed her

[@robd5307]

Brian failed her. The police separated them. They both chose to return to each other. Brian is the one to blame

[@oliviarae7927]

police can only do but so much legally. the cop did his best

[@alyssawoodman]

Why didn't they look into who's vehicle it was? Bad police work. Call it for what it is.

[@robd5307]

@@alyssawoodman they did--they sent her with her vehicle and drove him to a motel

[@explained3799]

She failed herself too. I would have left him LONG ago, LONG before violence erupted. You can tell if someone is your friend or not... they were not friends. They were bonded by other things, but not true friendship.

[@needlepullingthread1573]

I believe she is an All American kind of girl so young with such a kind heart

[@jerriedenham2320]

You knew her personally? How do you know anything about her? She was violent to Brian as well. They were abusive to each other. It got out of hand. They should have never been out there so long alone together knowing (and they both had to know) this was a volatile relationship.

[@nairobichik]

@@jerriedenham2320 I agree. They were in a toxic relationship and should never have been together.

[@emersonmanning6523]

WTF is an "All American Girl"...?

[@Anthonyinkz]

Yes she was from america, have you not got that yet?

[@needlepullingthread1573]

@@Anthonyinkz well I CERTAINLY feel any adorable girl, with charisma, her goal was to visit all lands of the great USA, so if you believe I am saying a WHITE skinned young girl your wrong, look at the parents, Miss America, Mrs America, they have all colors there and they should, in fact I have a Most adorable niece who has dark skin and we all love each other in our family, we love each other

[@onlyjuan100]

The Vanished interview was amazing, I wonder how strong of a woman to take on so much pain, the burden of families who are desperate for help. What a fantastic woman she is, we need more people like her with her training working on missing persons cases coming to light.

[@heatseeker_]

Agreed!

[@paulyou4629]

She is amazing!

[@Reymundodonsayo]

She always looks like she’s been crying

[@9495990411]

What a great interview. All relevant questions. Great analysis and knowledge. This is so heartbreaking. I pray justice be served soon. The world and most of all her family need closure.

[@SnakePlissken1]

I prey the real news gets broadcast on the MSM an they stop peddling fake news opinions! Gabby was a weirdo crazy chick. Utah Police should have arrested her. Gabby needed Medication 💊.

[@dianeiaquinto2474]

I starded to follow their trip was enjoying their adventure so sad it ended like it did GOD BLESS

[@JasonX00]

@@larryswift3442 God blesses those who follow the Son. But it is in His wisdom how they are blessed. Since you have a problem with God, have you consulted Him at all?

[@rebeccapratt3089]

Me too,my son and byfrd,got me a laptop,they set up my you tube so I could see my grndkids,after my stroke;never knew nothing of social media til now,one day my step son in Vegas,called said go yt,and look at the new baby with sissy,that's the first day I watched GP's blogs,it is crazy how God,sadly has used this little girl to bring us all together.That was the begin of Aug,Lord BLthinks this is about him,though through this pure hearted girl eyes are open,hearts are sharing,thats not vain,its LOvE

[@casanova07scrr]

Pei Sze, you are number one... Thank you for this report. You are a true professional!

[@ilmaariola746]

Her case got me interested when her fiance lawyered up. The suspense of whether Brian killed her or just left her somewhere. Then Brian disappeared. So now we have another thing to follow, whether he would be found alive or maybe he had killed himself along time ago.. I don't think it's about a white person case. It's like watching a real suspense movie for me and I think that's how the others felt too. But I have wished from the start that Gabby was just safe somewhere.

[@cherrymetha3185]

I believe that from what the coroner said about Gabby being in a domestic violence situation that we can safely presume that Brian is the k.iller and did not leave her somewhere alive .

[@SnakePlissken1]

Brian didn’t do anything. Just look at him. Brian is weak and to nice. Gabby was a weirdo crazy chick.

[@lexuses3942]

@@SnakePlissken1 Too*** learn grammar little boy. You’re just another Brian, useless

[@merrieadams3127]

Her mom is the reason her case has gotten so much attention. She set a FIRE under the media's butts! Plus we already have a better than a good idea who did it and where to find him, well until his parents decided to hide him! I think his sister gave him a truck and he's back at the spot he killed her but in hiding!

[@Alisha8596]

They should not have released that she was strangled until after interviews with Brian when they do get him. It should of been that only the killer and the authorities knew. I know people want information but nobody should jeopardize the investigation and risk Brian getting off easy just becuase the public wants to know details.

[@smokeymcpot69]

Brian is innocent until proven guilty!

[@Alisha8596]

@@smokeymcpot69 true but we'll see how it goes for him. Given everything that has happened its highly likely he did it. People don't just come back without their fiance (in her vehicle and using her credit card), avoid their parents, not report them missing, and go on the run if they did nothing wrong.

[@lizalcantar1153]

@@smokeymcpot69 so why not prove you’re innocent.? Why flee and make it harder for the family that he once cared about? The guilt is there. HE IS GUILTY JUST AS MUCH AS HIS PARENTS ARE FOR NOT HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE.

[@jmoney7289]

@@lizalcantar1153 they're abuser sympathizers

[@qcripplethesavage1019]

The cops their jeopardized the entire investigation by sabotaging everything

[@Celeste.Martel]

Thank GOD they talked about it... I feel so thankful. EVERY CHILD MATTERS. EVERY MISSING PERSON, EVERY ONE OF THEM.

[@anamaria2053]

Outstanding news brief. Thank you!

[@lydiaunalivia1357]

Because there was a very significant incident that could have prevented Gabby's death that was uploaded before. Before her death , the violence was witnessed by passersby that cause 911 . The decision who attended the 911 unintentionally made wrong....

[@gem5858]

Impressive I hope someone in the police service hears this across the country and implements, knowledge is a powerful and effective learning tool.

[@kitcoffey7194]

REFORM missing persons protocols NOW, which would require going off of social media and expressing these opinions by phone or letter to your elected officials that you should have voted for. Make the people who you voted for do their jobs, and they literally should be serving the public... so you as the public... should be telling them what to do. This also applies for things like economic inequality and housing reform, literally they work for you, so tell them what you want reformed. The problem is that they need numbers to act on priorities, and elected officials definitely don't read social media, so they need to see those numbers in terms of calls and letters to their offices on whatever issues you feel are important and need action on. Pass it on, and then get off social media and call and write to your electeds.

[@Cheese_Meister]

Great interview/reporting

[@blackczarina-detroitchanne1037]

Ms.Cheng thank you for your wisdom

[@spaceballs44]

Since the US Marshal’s and the FBI are looking for him if I were his parents along with Brian I’d be scared.

[@dianeasterling1592]

Fr

[@explained3799]

umm... i think both B & parents have friends in high places. They're not overly scared - other than being publicized for their affiliation with those friends in high places. Lucy-fear-ians are never punished for harming others, but they are punished for getting caught... so I pray this case breaks hell loose. It's time for America to realize who is misleading this country... and it's not just one person, but an entire system of families who live in palatial estates and own big businesses, such as the entire banking system, the media, big tech, big pharma, and so on and so forth.

[@bldlightpainting]

It's not that every missing or murdered person is less important than this one, it's just the fact that there is no way to fill law enforcement's to-do list, social and news media coverage, or newspaper pages with all of them at the same time. Therefore every few months or so one or two are highlighted, and hopefully in doing so we can bring justice to those individuals, and then move on to the next.

[@missurielleshakirthesiren-3866]

It should always be a segment of news DAILY for mission people. Likewise, there's a weather section. It needs to be run daily.

[@explained3799]

And "the times" we are in are very intesne, so it's surely to the benefit of "the powers that be" to gain distraction from their own mischief by highlighting a murder mystery.

[@DreamingCatStudio]

What an informative, calm, thoughtful interview.