Exposing Government Cover-Ups With Forensic Architecture | Eyal Weizman talks to Ash Sarkar

It's not what you know; it's what you can prove. For years, Forensic Architecture has exposed state crimes against civilians, nature, and humanity. This week on Downstream, Ash Sarkar meets FA's director Eyal Weizman, to discuss Israel's settler colonial project, the police killing of Mark Duggan, and how the testimony of blindfolded torture victims helped construct a model of Bashar al-Assad's most notorious torture prison.
00:00 Intro
01:31 Beginnings in Palestine
06:28 The Importance of Maps
10:26 Eyal’s Beginnings and Assembling the Team
22:11 Exposing Government Lies
30:42 Assad’s Torture Prisons and Reconstructing Memories
52:35 How Different Senses Affect Memory
56:35 Forensic Architecture and Gaza
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[@michellenorris8471]

Israel will never be forgiven & nor should it be.

[@andreaWBW]

That's a matter of God and not of men.

[@michellenorris8471]

@@andreaWBW Worldwide condemnation will do it.

[@andreaWBW]

@@michellenorris8471 Please read Jeremiah 30, 7 and 11. Israel will be restored but be punished of the Lord for their iniquities, therefore it has to go through the 7 year tribulation and after that, in the millenium it will be a blessing for the world again. And not everybody living in Israel now is a Jew according to the bible and cannot possess the promised land, which is for the millenium, not for now.

[@martinphillips3432]

@@andreaWBWI’d like to inform you that there is no such thing as a god.

[@martinphillips3432]

@@andreaWBWplease stop your nonsense. This whole video deals in science and truth and we’ve got you posting some rubbish from that bible thing.

[@Ben55583]

Excellent interview with Eyal Weizman. "Hollow Land. Israel's Architecture of Occupation" (2007) is groundbreaking and a classic. So is the work of Forensic Architecture. Thank you, Ash Sarkar.

[@nancygaciru2386]

Brilliant, compassionate human beings are the salvation of our wilfully ignorant World.

[@celt456]

What a fantastic interview with great questions. Your interviewee's sensitivity to trauma in his vital work is moving. Thank you. Peace and dignity for Palestine.

[@albertogonzalez5774]

Priceless insight coming from this man, thank you!

[@armleg1772]

FA is incredible. FA needs to be spread into more than just one research lab and continue to develop

[@anushkacindyshadiack1105]

"The establishment of Israel is based on the erasure of historical Palestine". .3:52. One of the best interviews this year. Well done.

[@UTubeISphere]

'Erasure' of Palestinians and Palestinian landscapes and history also is one of the themes in Nurit Peled-Elhanan's 'Palestine in Israeli School Books: Ideology and Propaganda in Education' (2012).

[@CommentsProbablyDeleted]

We're all fed up with government propaganda.

[@JohnAllenRoyce]

It is actually business media propaganda. Facing the wrong way.

[@aztea4uandme]

​@@JohnAllenRoyceit's both

[@mosspatchouli631]

Yes, we are all fed up, but not fed up enough to do something about.

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: - If Politicians/Govts narrative - Must not be Challenged - Must conform to without Question - Democratic or Fascist?

[@fizaraie]

Decades later we still see the architecture of apartheid in our cities in South Africa. It’s a visual reminder of the past and even though there are no huge apartheid walls, the spatial planning of the environment shows how the prejudice was so entrenched in every aspect of life. Brilliant video, such a sparkling conversation. ❤

[@tater580]

I so enjoyed and appreciated this insightful conversation. Mr Weizman is a beautiful human being ❤

[@martinphillips3432]

What an astounding, rewarding and informative video. However, it makes listening to the lies and fabrications of people like Tzipi Hotevely and Hen Mazzig even more unbearable.

[@newmoonjlp]

Ash this was absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for bringing us this interview.

[@DavidGirling]

I had never heard of Forensic Architecture before this, and am now looking at things on their website; fascinating stuff, and a wonderful use of modern technology to disprove the lies of authorities.

[@robertroest7619]

Wauw, amazing you guys had this man from Forensic Architecture on! Followed FA since that first bomb on a hospital that Israel tried to blame on Islamic jihad. I was very impressed with how FA demonstrated this was a lie. Great insights!

[@TheAlbinoskunk]

The claim was that the hospital was levelled and hundreds were killed, but when morning came the hospital was still standing and there was a small crater in the parking lot. Forensic Architecture disputed the evidence of the video that showed a misfire/interception, but didn't address the core of the story, which was completely different to what both sides claimed in the immediate aftermath of the explosion. If the extent of their OSINT expertise is to simply muddy the waters, I don't see what the point is of this organisation

[@BriarLeaf00]

​@TheAlbinoskunk Talk about muddying the waters, the things you say aren't true and make no sense. Bad Hasbara.

[@Libyan_anti_genocidele]

​@TheAlbinoskunk, you do realize that this is one is one of the many well-known pathetic attempts of isnotreal to escape persecution ?

[@sanwan7138]

Yeah new york city built on indigenous land

[@sanwan7138]

Give Mexico city back to the aztecs!

[@guillermo.mserrano]

I've watched a lot of Forensic Architecture reports. These guys are the best, they're showing to the world what states don't want us to see.

[@michaelw2288]

Do they do much work outside of Israel?

[@maazkalim]

“much work” is subjective, depended on how you define it - Mr "@@michaelw2288".

[@UTubeISphere]

​@@michaelw2288Hi Michael, based on the wiki entry 'Forensic Architecture', their work has been on (rather than 'inside' or 'outside' a particular location) the Mediterranean (migration), Gaza (e.g. use of phosphorus) , Germany (NSU killings), Venezuela, Syria (torture prison), Pakistan (US drones), Guatemala (1980s genocide).

[@maazkalim]

You clearly haven't watched the interview, Mr "​@@michaelw2288".

[@joyinhk3269]

What a brilliant and humane discussion. Kudos for this.

[@vicferrmat4492]

Hi Ash. Great conversation Thank you.

[@mrmustard1633]

Not just hugely informative, but very moving and inspiring

[@intbydes]

That was absolutely fascinating. An outstanding interview of a gentle, compassionate man.

[@fracturedopal]

I was dreading watching this, but he is so gentle and delicate discussing these topics. Absolutely fascinating.

[@Tsukoyomi460]

A great way of unfolding the case of occupation ❤️❤️

[@ruthvanstraten7126]

Fantastic interview. Thank you

[@goldenappel]

This is one of the most fascinating interviews I've seen in a while. I hadn't heard of FA before but will definitely be looking into their work.

[@selmaunsley6683]

One of the best downstreams

[@PrettyWhiteLady]

Thank you so much!

[@greatmarauder]

Incredible interview. Thank you 🙏

[@beatriz9376]

Very informative and eye-opening. Thank you.

[@knoore]

Amazing talk. Thanks Eyal.. for your work.

[@southpaw786]

Brilliant, thank you Novara Media.

[@JoH4LH44]

Really interesting guest and topic. Thanks ❤

[@Khadija-vu6wb]

Good interview thanks Ash

[@Hesham_MK]

Great interview NM

[@mn-ru4li]

A brilliant topic, guest and interview. Thank you

[@michaelskinner3067]

This is what I love Novara for!

[@leonwright3174]

I’m looking forward to this one 👊🏿

[@aranocarroll7761]

Great talk Ash ,more like this please .

[@behari777]

You guys are amazing, thank you! Novara Media, you rock ✊

[@adechapman.1132]

Sad talk. The words are distraught from the heart of your guest ! Israel have over stepped the mark of humanity !

[@pest_4109]

Always a pleasure to listen to this man and learn things I'd never considered before

[@joantrujillo7551]

Thank you for the interview and much respect to the courageous and compassionate people able to see the horror straight

[@elizabethashley8260]

Eyal Weizeman’s answer to Ash Sakar’s final question brought tears to my eyes.

[@nickylo2178]

"A lot of what we do is developing a very close attention to things...respecting the world for what it is, and respecting the fact that the art of seeing is hard, it`s not obvious, you need to work hard to see what you see and you need to work hard to make public what is already public and that is a principle of care, of attention of time and spending time with the people that actually ask you for help about it"

[@BuddhaKumari]

This interview should be a require study in every high school. It is so important and compelling for humanity, especially in this most demoralising time. Thank you so much Ash and Professor Weizman.

[@Glastonbury1]

Excellent Idea!!!! 👍👍👍

[@HamzaAliraqi81]

great conversation

[@David_Fernandez]

It's incredible to listen to this guy

[@carimawebb9498]

Truly fascinating. Thank you for presenting this information. Coming from a history, political science/justice, art & anthropology background/perspective so much of what was discussed is quite familiar. However, the added depth & contextual nature this discipline brings makes it all uniquely relevant.

[@felipecastilla9770]

This is a beautiful interview.

[@tarpara]

This is an amazing interview. Thank you!

[@davidwiesjahn6452]

Wow, this is a brilliant conversation. Thanks Eyal and Ash.

[@ianbirkinhead4103]

Ash is such a good interviewer has such an incredible skill in being able to personally relate to Eyal using analogous situations from her own experience enhancing the audience understanding without taking away from the narrative.

[@passionaria]

thank you Novara Media

[@El-Burrito]

I need to start downloading these for when they randomly get taken down or turn privated.

[@jimbob5848]

Thanks. Fascinating. Useful. Best to you in your important work.

[@odetocycling]

Wonderful and interesting interview as always, Ash. You ask such brilliant questions.

[@mirandaqomoyi3452]

The collateral is the target. Exactly

[@Alex-ht1oq]

The very part of his response to Ash’s question also touches on some of the gripes people have with 15 minute cities

[@neuro_krem]

Such an eloquent guest, very nice and informative interview. I learned something new today :)

[@victormeidan1062]

But his views represent a tiny, extreme view of the Israeli radical Left.

[@WhataMensch]

Novara will you teach me about the word Federation and why you dont like it? Thanks for the fearless coverage

[@Gwynbleidd503]

They do not like it at all if you capitalize a J and then write ewish followed by Federation for sure. Any observer should think hard about how difficult it is to write comments saying this

[@g_net_ok]

Great interview and highly informative... I recommend listening from start to finish

[@jamesbarclay8430]

Novara another fantastic interview, it was like being back in a lecture hall, as a student.

[@heatherabrc5998]

just mind blowing - thank you for introducing me to the concept of forensic architecture. The sensitivity, compassion and integrity of Eyal is heart warming and gives me hope for a better world for all

[@Glastonbury1]

Simply fantastic! Incredibly informative and seriously well presented by Ash. What a sensitive and brilliant man!! I am deeply grateful that people like him have the skills and strength to carry out such important work. As another commentor said, this sort of subject would be of great interest and use in highschools and help people to develop sensitivity and awareness of their environment. Many thanks!!!

[@gary100dm]

Kenya, Rhodesia, Zimbabwe, etc.

[@bobbygabriel9574]

Mr Weizman is amazing.

[@timmcdraw7568]

This is brilliant interview. Thank you both. Im essentially commenting to boost.

[@KA-vr4uu]

Excellent interview.

[@arash4712]

Well done Ash

[@slim1one]

What an excellent guest and interview. Excellent and heartbreaking at the same time due to the details of the subject matter.

[@Fatfoot84]

Ash is a great journalist

[@suewhite6612]

Fabulous interview. Forensic Architecture had an exhibition in Manchester's Whitworth gallery a few years back exposing Israel's use of white phosporus in Palestine. Israeli lawyers got Manchester uni to close the exhibition and fire Alistair Hudson one of the most important gallery directors in the UK

[@stothsam]

This is an incredibly fascinating interview!

[@thairk]

So good Eyal, I have his book in my shelf. Brilliant Ash that you bring great people to your program, thank you!

[@clarissasamuel932]

Excellent interview. Thank you both ❤

[@Hamneli]

Thanks.

[@miranimfamedianista7261]

Enlightening discussion.

[@reginar0529]

excellent interview and insightful questions

[@marya.p.howell5462]

Brilliant choice of topic/interviewee. Fabulous. Thank you!

[@waterfall1100]

As a progressive leftist Chinese, I am so excited to hear from a fellow leftist Eyal!!!!

[@fnaust]

Amazing interview, so informative and enlightening.

[@HamzaAliraqi81]

smart show

[@carmelobazzano5703]

Intellectually stimulating discussion.

[@fionainkernow]

This was fascinating

[@nazirvania9365]

Superb Questions, abd Brilliant, articulate replies with indepth analysis! Kudos to both !

[@crhettbuttler1]

what a masterclass.

[@Gymnure]

Absolutely fascinating

[@katekirkwood3551]

So interesting. Eyal Weizman might be interested in 'Blank: Architecture, Apartheid and After', by Hilton Judin & Ivan Vladislavic if he doesn't already know the book.

[@danielevoinotsledge9090]

Thank you

[@havapuppy]

excellent reporting!!

[@Crunt2167]

How much pollution do these arms produce? 😎👍

[@PauloAdriano-zo2ng]

Loads. I read once that the U.S. Military is the single largest (non-state) producer of Green House Gas in the World. Keep in mind that the annual Pentagon budget is around $850 Billion, but that's probably a low figure.

[@AdamFW]

What a great interview, Ash. 👏

[@queenvagabond8787]

Fascinating discussion

[@user-ym7nl2ii5r]

Extrapolating to the despoilation of Cape Town under Apartheid and the subsequent barbarism of untrammelled Capitalism. An enlightening interview

[@Sydgekd]

TRUE PREACH

[@jesmacdon]

Fascinating interview

[@leighclark5257]

Amazing, revelatory interview. Where else can one find this vital information?

[@mariacoronel2547]

Super interesting! Congrats Novara Media.

[@MyPitapita]

Thanks!

[@davec4276]

Wonderful Guy! Bless you!

[@nndeyi]

Another educational masterpiece from Novara.

[@lento2307]

Brilliant.

[@ArshanArt]

Just saw Ash’s interview on new statesman - I’m an oldie ish - loving the energy and positions taken on your feed - I don’t have to agree with everything to be impressed by the rigour experimentation and honest passion for humanity -