I'm glad Thomas was calling out the poor build quality I think it's something other reviewers would've completely ignored
@pan46328 ай бұрын
Other reviewers would spend the whole review talking about the screen and 0-60 time. Throttle house don’t even mention those 👏🏽👏🏽💯
@elimcfly3508 ай бұрын
All I could look at the entire video was the uneven gap in that back interior panel.
@bozhidardimitrov35738 ай бұрын
@@elimcfly350oh my god, can't unsee it now
@timsautovision61458 ай бұрын
Mercedes build quality is a joke and had been for many years
@ogabchemseddine16548 ай бұрын
Of course, they are bmw fanboys, they said that before.
@marioboss798 ай бұрын
And that's why I respect this channel. They have no mercy for producers and expose all their mistakes and stupid savings on quality. Keep it up .
@mediocreman28 ай бұрын
You can only really afford to do that once you've established yourself.
@LenfordLennyLeon8 ай бұрын
I guess that is why they usually get the cars from dealers and not from manufacturers...
@LoganSLRLockwood8 ай бұрын
A lot of their reviews, especially for performance or luxury cars, use dealership or subscriber vehicles. It's a more frequent observation with TH than with any of the other car reviewers I watch where they ask their fanbase on social media if there's anyone with a cool car willing to have it reviewed. The pro of this is they can be as critical as they want to be for the car they review. This also allows them to do more with the cars they're given (track tests, old vs new, drag races). The main con is they don't get invited by manufacturers themselves for early access reviews and whatnot as often as other reviewers do. This isn't to say they don't ever get invited to press events. They do, and those videos are very obviously very different to reviews like this one where they drive a car ~2 years after release and give an honest critique of it, or reviews where they drive a subscriber's or have a dealership's car.
@chartreux15328 ай бұрын
If you mean the Panel Gap, this is a Press Car. Any Car Journalist will tell you that the Cars they get every now and then from any Brand have either Issues or some lower Quality than the Production Cars
@marioboss798 ай бұрын
My main concern was the poor quality of the paint on the body. Nobody talks about it, but I, as a painter, pay attention to it.@@chartreux1532
@worldspottingexhibit8 ай бұрын
Bruh the german master race bit has me dying
@Andrewjceballos8 ай бұрын
The fact that its called master race is hilarious
@morstyrannis19518 ай бұрын
Fits nicely with Jeremy Clarkson's comments about sat nav only showing directions to Poland.
@robiulahmed8 ай бұрын
That was gold 😂
@DaGoook8 ай бұрын
You must be Jewish...
@Fc-cb3tn8 ай бұрын
Mercedes really are proud of their heritage 😂
@niluxi148 ай бұрын
I wanted to get SL63 but using the roof via the screen was a deal breaker, so I bought a Corolla
@laloaguirre98478 ай бұрын
Good choice
@brabecjakub8 ай бұрын
Same. Plus it has better consumption
@embiggens18 ай бұрын
The Corolla convertible is nice. And as a bonus, slightly better mileage in the city.
@mikedelape66098 ай бұрын
poor people problems, thank god im not that!! thank you hedge fund!!
@twfinc68558 ай бұрын
I would rather own the previous gen... you don't need all wheel drive it's over 400 lb heavier I miss my 2018
@SB-ed4gz8 ай бұрын
3:06 As soon as the camera cuts to them driving, you can tell the panel between rear seats is crooked. Good review gents
@estebanp63918 ай бұрын
Once you see it.. you cant think in nothing else...
@qpwoeiruty1088 ай бұрын
i bet it wasn't crook the moment it came out of assembly line
@MrElapid7 ай бұрын
@@qpwoeiruty108 No orange peel either?
@glennleslie61274 ай бұрын
You have a BAD case of OCD..
@vindesh178 ай бұрын
Look at the fit of the trim between the rear seats at 4:16. Lovely job Mercedes, simply lovely.
@pan46328 ай бұрын
tesla level panel gap
@siddhj22068 ай бұрын
I was about to say that. Every time I see that panel gap I think how such a thing could cost *breath* 190,000 USD!! And it is not even subtle. How did thing pass QC and dealer inspection.
@mordredma8 ай бұрын
@@pan4632 Honestly, I've never seen a Tesla or really any new cars with interior panel gaps like this, this is on a whole other level.
@2JZDestroyer8 ай бұрын
they took a serious nose dive with that one.
@jonmadden598 ай бұрын
I think that might be camera distortion tbh, very wide angle
@kj64gaming198 ай бұрын
As a Lexus owner, THANK YOU for recommending the LC500 every chance you get! Same with the Straight Pipes. There's no surprise that so many reviewers love it. Immaculate design, build quality, engine sound, and luxury, all for much less than all its competitors. All the reasons I love Lexus.
@TheBucketOfTruth8 ай бұрын
Problem with that car is I already have a sports car, so having that on top isn't practical. If they did an LS F with that motor and that gorgeous interior I'd buy the shit out of it. But just wish they had a more practical version. IS500 just isn't quite the item that those are.
@pyramo31708 ай бұрын
I daily an IS500 and these things need more attention.
@HeavenNagai8 ай бұрын
Shhh, they'll accumulate value, and then I won't be able to get a used one.
@Unicornpirate8 ай бұрын
@@TheBucketOfTruth They did that already. It's called the GS-F.
@TheBucketOfTruth8 ай бұрын
@@Unicornpirate It's ugly and it's not as nice inside as an LC500 at all. And it's not an LS.
@brentm.81408 ай бұрын
That paint on an almost $200k car is absolutely inexcusable
@matmul48508 ай бұрын
And the shody build quality.
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ138 ай бұрын
Yep... Fair to say Merc build quality ain't what it used to be. That would drive me up the God damned wall if it were mine. I used to build road train trailers for a living (I'm in Australia) and that level of finish would be unacceptable for a semi trailer, let alone a luxury car. Not even close to good enough.
@Solstare8 ай бұрын
Absolutely nothing wrong with the paint
@pieswimmer18 ай бұрын
@@Solstarewhy are you d riding for Mercedes
@ruckuswithani44518 ай бұрын
@@SolstareTrue, it's just textured for style
@FenderUsa8 ай бұрын
Wow that door trim flex, a Mercedes from the 90s and before would never do that
@omidnamin90048 ай бұрын
absolute joke of a quality in a car this price. not to mention the orange peel in the paint
@winstonlindley18198 ай бұрын
As an owner of a 1998 SL500, I can confirm.
@evoviiiyou8318 ай бұрын
Same here 2006 SL65 here and no flex and I also have master race mode. It’s called turn off traction ESP, put her in sport mode, ABC to sport, renntech tune, and drag radials,
@DoSum4Me8 ай бұрын
Our former 2010 C350 felt super solid, it’s a shame Mercedes quality is what it is now, I was recently driving a 2019 E53 AMG and was appalled at how cheap the inside felt.
@Tahvyy8 ай бұрын
@@winstonlindley1819 I want the older SL like yours, any issues with yours???
@matar08 ай бұрын
The crooked line in the back between the to headrests is driving me crazy
@WhaddupImJohn8 ай бұрын
I cant unsee it thank you
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ138 ай бұрын
Yeah Merc build quality sure ain't what it used to be. That type of thing would drive me up the God damned wall.
@Tahvyy8 ай бұрын
It looks like you could just hit it back in place. Someone may have leaned on it or tried to put a camera 📷 on it. Who knows.
@WhaddupImJohn8 ай бұрын
@@Tahvyy id take it back to the dealership and make them fix it
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ138 ай бұрын
@@Tahvyy Yeah and the orange peel in the paint will buff out... Once you buff ALL the paint off and apply it properly.
@PalpatinesPlumber8 ай бұрын
"Master Race mode" - We at Mercedes are proud of our heritage
@ThePilotGear8 ай бұрын
ahhhhhhh I get it now. Mercedes...come on...lol
@jakejohnson61208 ай бұрын
That paint is BRUTAL!!!
@krane158 ай бұрын
Unacceptable. Send it back.
@jkliao64868 ай бұрын
I didn't realize how much more expensive this is to the LC500C, even the SL55 is a long way above, and I don't think 4wd and a tomb stone slapped right in the middle of the car would lead to a 40% price increase from the LC500C
@edombre46378 ай бұрын
they look "so toyota" though
@jkliao64868 ай бұрын
@@edombre4637That's the kind of thing people say when they really have to hate on things out of thin air. The LC500C doesn't look like a rav4, in case you don't have eyes.
@alsayedfakhri45977 ай бұрын
@@edombre4637 It looks 'toyota' is hardly a slight when it's considered one of the most beautiful cars on the road.
@dsdddsd4543we8 ай бұрын
What's crazy is that the LC500 design has been around for some time and I believe it is better and more timeless for $80K less. I think it shows how good Lexus got the LC500 design down.
@gregorygant42428 ай бұрын
The SL is still a legend , has been for the past 70 years no matter what you think about it now !
@eastbaystreet12428 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I got my S63 Cabrio pre-facelift: the same grille DNA as all of its predecessors going back decades, and outstanding build quality. And that thing under the hood... the 5.5L V8. Oh yeah. Sweetness. 2 million pound curb weight, so not going to race anybody, but that's not my thing. Oh, does it cruise. Great GT!
@hacob20048 ай бұрын
Extra throttle house is my absolute ideal type of review. No fluff, just straight to the car and honestly riffing about how good/bad it is.
@iamandrewyang8 ай бұрын
that misaligned panel in between the rear seat head rests...bruh. LC500 ftw.
@donnierion93478 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't mention this compared to an BMW M8 Competition convertible. The M8 is also a twin-turbo V8, is just as fast if not faster, handles better, has better interior quality, and it costs much, much, much less.
@recklessrobert19668 ай бұрын
Great point. Even optioned out with everything the M8 Competition convertible is still cheaper than the base price of SL63
@TheBucketOfTruth8 ай бұрын
I bet it rides like ass too. Probably worse than this one.
@WeVisitTravelGuide8 ай бұрын
Because it’s not as nice
@anordinarytree44258 ай бұрын
Well, the main theme of this review i think, is that the LC500 undercuts everything in its class including bmw
@BananaRama13128 ай бұрын
@@anordinarytree4425Looks shitty tho
@cadenhalliday69648 ай бұрын
That driver perspective should be in more of your videos. Really enjoyed that shot. Please add to more of your videos.
@GM-kj6sb8 ай бұрын
Incredible audio quality with the top down
@vibingwithvinyl8 ай бұрын
Master race -mode, lol.
@ouimongate59618 ай бұрын
Hahahaha james is jewish thats why they didnt let him be a master race
@hellblazer328 ай бұрын
I own an SL63 and must say I was so surprised by how comfortable it is especially on UK roads, likewise with OPF filters the engine sounds incredible. For anyone interested in one i'd suggest test driving it. One of the main reasons I chose an SL over a 911 was the sound.
@Mandingy248 ай бұрын
For the money the AMG GT honestly seems like a much better value, but i havent driven either so i cant really say for sure
@2JZDestroyer8 ай бұрын
r231 was a better car , and thats surprising@@Mandingy24
@lesegoramasika55788 ай бұрын
This is one channel that I know you won't hear anything positive about Mercedes..sl63 is a better car than a porsche the sound adds to the fun
@christopherjiang40078 ай бұрын
@@Mandingy24 Can't really daily drive a pre-gen GT compared to SL
@danbradford553 ай бұрын
I own one too and it's a GREAT drive.
@flacht_68 ай бұрын
Being honest in this is so important, I appreciate all the nitpicking too!
@SaketBakshi8 ай бұрын
Sad to see how Merc treats its flagship cars. It’s part of the business side of the company to cut costs and create profits, but it’s just disheartening to see how the quality of the brand has fallen so far in the past 40 years.
@2JZDestroyer8 ай бұрын
I'll say it again the last good SL was the R129, the last good sports coupe was the GT Black series.
@gregorygant42428 ай бұрын
It's not just MB nobody really wants expensive luxury roadsters any more , everybody (like the US) just wants stupid big luxury SUV's now and these cars aren't sought after like they were in the past !
@TML348 ай бұрын
This is the best 10 minute review, IN THE WORLD!
@borgholable8 ай бұрын
the master race bit 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stradenker8 ай бұрын
That gopro over the shoulder is Great. Nice to have a drivers view in a Review
@The_Stanman8 ай бұрын
Straight Pipes said this handles better than a 992 Turbo Cab, which I knew had to be BS. Thank you for confirming 😅
@brunohebert13518 ай бұрын
That camera angle behind Thomas head is really neat. Plus with the top down, great sound from the engine.
@therealcdnuser8 ай бұрын
Perfect timing, just sitting down for a coffee.
@netcruzer8 ай бұрын
F-Type vert or coupe in AWD Supercharged V8 from right before the uglier refresh for ~$50k is a helluva bargain and makes the best noises and better handling?
@TJ-kh2zc8 ай бұрын
A C8 convertible costs a lot less and has a lot of the thing they’re asking for, weight, sound, and interior wise!
@luismejia78898 ай бұрын
Am always surprised when they say this company is letting us test the car and proceed to give harsh criticism about it. Love it. Truly real critics
@cbotten1068 ай бұрын
That mode is exclusive to German's: Master Race Mode. The TH guys are such a riot. No master race mode in that LC500...definitely off the list.
@JohnSmith-qp4lj8 ай бұрын
I like the over the head angle, love to see whats going on out front.
@streetographer8 ай бұрын
5:00 Not sure a German product should market "master race". 🙈
@___MilkMan___8 ай бұрын
That was the joke genius, good job for explaining the obvious
@clintavo8 ай бұрын
I passed you guys going the opposite direction in a 500 Abarth when you were filming this. Little T FTW!
@ted64628 ай бұрын
LC500 all the way! F this thing.
@Goooooo8 ай бұрын
Thank you, James! Was yelling "power to weight" at the screen.
@107uptown8 ай бұрын
The “Master Race” thing had me rolling 🤣💀
@sukbanks09108 ай бұрын
I own C 63 AMG V8 I love love love it!
@michaelkazmierczak29738 ай бұрын
'Masterace mode' I'm dead 😭😆
@baldeagle.o28 ай бұрын
These guys are the most entertaining car KZbinrs by far. 👍👍👍
@BanditJedi8 ай бұрын
Master Race Mode has left the Chat And that orange peel…yikes! Did they paint it with gloss truck bed liner?
@nastystew69428 ай бұрын
They purposely paint it like that to protect the paint from rock chip@
@WhaddupImJohn8 ай бұрын
They should paint it not like trash and then you just ppf it. It looks awful
@ThePilotGear8 ай бұрын
@@nastystew6942 uhhh nope.
@angusboychannel49958 ай бұрын
This is so true. I'm a dentist and I bought one lol! Lc 500 that is and they are built better than anything else.
@nitesh-maharaj8 ай бұрын
I love the master race mode, it's absolutely brilliant!
@hakankursunmusic6 ай бұрын
Thank you, I like the outside, but the cockpit looks bad, especially the iPad view is low deep bad:)! Anyway its just a dream car!!!
@websta728 ай бұрын
Master Race mode! Holy smokes that is strange.
@BananaRama13128 ай бұрын
Not really
@Greatgoku47 ай бұрын
That master race bit had me on the floor 😂
@juicysushi8 ай бұрын
Mercedes is having their malaise moment at exactly the wrong time. They’re torching a century’s brand equity in only a few years.
@veritas64668 ай бұрын
That period started in the early 2000's.
@callofdestiny56718 ай бұрын
@@veritas6466 eh not quite personally around 2010 and a bit after was also great. I own a e class from that generation that's treated me amazingly. I would say after that Iv noticed the biggest fall off
@veritas64668 ай бұрын
@@callofdestiny5671 The 2010 E350 had six recalls. The following laundry list comes straight from consumer reports: Owners report problems with: Steering And Suspension- Shocks or struts, ball joints, tie rods, wheel bearings, alignment, steering linkage (includes rack and pinion), power steering (pumps and hoses, leaks), wheel balance, springs or torsion bars, bushings, electronic or air suspension. Other steering/suspension problem- "Rear subframe rusted and broke. Replaced subframe with used subframe because new ones were not available from manufacturer. Manufacturer has not acknowledged problem, which appears to be general for E and C class vehicles from 2010 and the late teens." Climate System AC compressor, blower (fan) motor, condenser, evaporator, heater system, automatic climate system, electrical failure, refrigerant leakage. In-car Electronics Infotainment system (audio, GPS, phone), rear entertainment system, backup or other camera/sensors, head-up display. Hardware replacement "GPS navigation continuously misdirects. Installed updated discs but problem persisted. No longer use it because of unreliability."
@chesneP8 ай бұрын
This has been the MB cycle for several decades now. 80s-90s some of the best quality $ could buy. 00-10ish complete garbage followed by 10-late teens uptick. Now we’re back to garbage again
@nbb66098 ай бұрын
Their “Premium Strategy” is not right
@suttonsplash148 ай бұрын
Turtle Horse RULEZ
@tyronost70438 ай бұрын
Looking at these Guys vids at 2160p is crazy good
@Tobi-ln9xr8 ай бұрын
That Orange peeling is unacceptable. But I have to say that when I saw the SL 63 AMG on the street for the first time (in matte brown) I stopped and looked for 2-3 minutes at the car. It’s one of the most beautiful new cars on the market and it looks really premium. I think it looks better in real life than in videos on KZbin. Respect to the designers at Mercedes. 👍🏻
@stephend64398 ай бұрын
I really like that new camera angle
@kk234818 ай бұрын
5:10 notice behind them the crooked gap in the convertible top.lol maybe a good old slap will fix it.
@arik0.m5 ай бұрын
if so, then this means the car is poor quality.
@l2etranger8 ай бұрын
4:44 that was subtle. If they did notice, they would make quite an overhaul with its interface. This is 2024, you guys look like you were born in the 90s, it's time to evolve.
@tannerallen50328 ай бұрын
I just unlocked this car in FH5 last night.
@SadHippo1128 ай бұрын
It’s got Chince !!!! Best thing I’ve heard on KZbin
@rafaytahir78338 ай бұрын
Lc500 all day hands down
@Aleppo.12346 ай бұрын
Masterpiece, the most beautiful car I have ever seen.
@KLiNoTweet8 ай бұрын
The panel gap between the rear seats deffers left and tright. 😁 The sound quality of your vid is top notch 🙂
@manfredpritt32037 ай бұрын
Hey guys! Its so easy. To release the driving mode "Master Race" you only have to submit your 100% arian family tree to your local Mercedes dealer 😀
@vindevhunta49058 ай бұрын
Good looking car But the v8 lexus lc500 ❤❤❤
@raymadani2707 ай бұрын
Thank you for the honest review.
@websta728 ай бұрын
I can’t unsee that rear panel 😮
@kw11b2p5 ай бұрын
I love your videos so much! When I look at a vehicle I always look first to see if you guys have reviewed it first thing
@zno31778 ай бұрын
AMG fell off
@bg_space9538 ай бұрын
still not as bad as other amg's tho
@jonahlandrum96598 ай бұрын
Definitely did
@horchatakevin8 ай бұрын
AMG was never good
@FenderUsa8 ай бұрын
mercedes in general fell off, they're still good cars but overpriced compared to competition now. they used to be the best made cars in the world...not so much anymore
@joelplatt26518 ай бұрын
It’s like Toyota slapping TRD on every single thing and then having to replace it with GR because they watered it down too much
@leonnjoroge64708 ай бұрын
Looks mad 😮😮
@Vanguardclass8 ай бұрын
All the dentists watching this 👁👄👁
@hassanlahlou78058 ай бұрын
James : '' Mercedes Be Quiet Please'' what a Gentleman
@cruz1ale8 ай бұрын
Haha master race mode, funniest thing all evening.
@adamkrauss3038 ай бұрын
Look at James feeding tongue tied Thomas the “Power to Weight Ratio” moniker after Thomas pokes fun at James about remembering his lines. 😂
@gp16838 ай бұрын
The depreciation curve on this car is going to look like a brick dropped from a 12 story building
@CarsofGlasgow8 ай бұрын
I have the LC and I really like the look of the new SL, especially in that light blue colour
@schagsim8 ай бұрын
Shouldn't SL be "super leicht" as in super light? That monster weighs 2000kg. What the heck is happening
@2JZDestroyer8 ай бұрын
they've been north of 1700kg for a looong time.
@aliakgunnn8 ай бұрын
"I don't want ambient lighting in my fans", couldn't have explained it better!
@pistonburner64488 ай бұрын
That's a nice looking Z4!
@Fangio-638 ай бұрын
I have to say those camera angles look spicy.. well calculated angels... and most certainly amazing
@13asingh8 ай бұрын
LC 500 definitely a better/wiser choice.
@driver_188 ай бұрын
"You cannot be in master race mode"💀 that double meaning. Lol
@HaHa-gy5vg4 ай бұрын
Haters can't afford an AMG
@Silver_ghost_ss8 ай бұрын
It's funny that yall have done this review. I was literally planning to comment on your next video that you should do a new SL vs a old SL, like a 2013, comparison. Especially since you can get one of those for the low 30k range
@2JZDestroyer8 ай бұрын
Nah they should do an R129 as that's the previous soft top. It would be a very eye-opening review though. A then vs now that would show how little our money is worth.
@stockseer6 ай бұрын
I have the 'old' SL R231 SL400, and most reliable car, and solid after all these years... longest I've owned a single car; terrified at the thought of trading it.
@guillaumebarrette90408 ай бұрын
That paint texture is for aerodynamics, just like a golf ball !
@YsoSer1ous8 ай бұрын
“The laws through the government” was on point 😅
@mikehawk44558 ай бұрын
This video made me feel better. Thank you ❤
@CapELarry8 ай бұрын
This video summarizes how I feel about most Mercedes products anymore. I just can’t find any of them desirable.
@shakeelali208 ай бұрын
That Master Race bit had me actually gobschamacked . I refuse to believe that no one at AMG saw that little historical Freudian slip. 😂😂😂
@doggedlydetermined70228 ай бұрын
I love all the people judging this car meanwhile they’re driving corollas. Let’s be real, we all dream of owning something like this
@RyuTsuchiya6 ай бұрын
Of all the newer cars, this is the most beautiful
@4734-n9t8 ай бұрын
Hey, hold on the esp button on the left corner off the whell, and than you’ll be able to use the master mode of the traction, I’m a 2023 sl63 owner with cote d’azure blue and red interior, mode is very fun but not for everyone
@maddmethod58808 ай бұрын
I hope you guys do a full review for the new CLE and not an extra throttle house one, I gotta know all the full deets
@vicariousity30468 ай бұрын
Simple. it's a C300 with two doors
@Catchingcars8 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct Thomas tjank you for pointing that out! Also while the burmester sound system is grate and there is actualy metal as speaker covers it is so sharp it could be used as cheese graters honestly try it 😂
@ryanking68118 ай бұрын
That price tag is insanity
@senagangbe58048 ай бұрын
I have the SL63 but the MY2022. Its crazy how many defects this car has despite having 2+ years of build time to iron out the issues. My SL is prestine, with none of the issues (I have matte paint and carbon fiber interior) but its insane to see this, the crooked interioe panels and more
@woggybot8 ай бұрын
Thomas absolutely nails it; too much ‘excess’ for no reason, and that means weight. Nearly 2T for ‘sport lightweight’ is idiotic
@yammmit8 ай бұрын
You guys are absolutely the best car channel on KZbin. Although I can’t help but think sometimes you’re ripping off Throttle House a bit. I swear you guys try to look and act just like them.
@shakethedrummer23518 ай бұрын
My wife is all about the flair and badge... she would love the interior of this OMG the bit with the master race and the car figuring out you're not German... hilarious Thank you for another amazing video.... James since you have joined the channel you have both been so amazing
@Unicornpirate8 ай бұрын
She would? Look at the panel gaps in the back of the interior. Or the door flex when Thomas pressed it. It's your money but for anything over 60k, I expect much better build quality in my interior. Especially from a German brand. Also the orange peel on the paint
@shakethedrummer23518 ай бұрын
@unicornpirate7427 my wife wouldnt press on the panels so she wouldnt hear that creaks.. And the orange peel i doubt she would notice.. hell ive probably had cars with orange peel, and ive never noticed... Everyone values different things on a car Good thing theres lots of cars to choose from
@JamesMiller-lb3sk8 ай бұрын
The best line of the video was James’s “They learn that we are not German”
@laistab19168 ай бұрын
So glad there is still amg cars with v8s
@art1faqt8 ай бұрын
It does have the AWD argument over the LC500. If you live in rainy/snowy climate and want to drive the car year round, and why wouldn’t you, do you pay almost double for it?