2024 Nissan Z NISMO Quick Review

[@bluestangGT2001]

Maybe I'm just stuck in pre- stupid inflation times .. but the price of this car should start with a 4 at most

[@Infernos94]

Not even pre inflation nismos were that cheap lol maybe 55k is fair

[@mdye.04]

Nono, you’re right

[@biafo4541]

Hey man, we all stuck in pre inflation times 😂, the jump in car prices were overnight

[@unclelive6918]

Dreamer

[@ThePandaTurtle]

Unfortunately a 4 means a toyota family car

[@horizons3174]

i’ve seen more cybertrucks than z’s and the cybertruck looks like an unrendered rock in a video game

[@Hanson032]

Lol I actually noticed this as well. I car watch all the time at work in a big city and have seen pretty much everything but a Nissan Z

[@jwalesoutlaw3294]

I don't even think they actually sell the Z. I've seen one in 5 years and it was a yellow press car.

[@skip741x3]

I saw one of those cybertrucks go by... They DO look pretty bad in person...about as attractive as a stainless fridge with wheels.

[@JohnNick72]

I live in NW Houston, Tx. I’ve seen more Emira’s than New Z’s (of any variety). 2 - 0

[@DEXTER_RE]

Same.

[@gatopardos19]

The Niche-an Z joke was the best part lol

[@eoinkenny3188]

The veritable mike drop after just sealed the deal

[@Ultraboltz]

Legit laughed out loud at that. Brilliant.

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

100% agree. So good.

[@GammaPanda]

F-ing brilliant. Well done Chames. 👏

[@thefury4424]

It was until someone in the comments ruined the joke for me….lol 😂

[@christianaviles2199]

If this was 15K to 20K cheaper it might be a true winner.

[@REfanforlife]

they nailed the rear end though it’s a perfect blend of late 80s and now

[@RelaxAndSmokeMeth]

they crushed it!

[@MikayelMcGee]

Extra Throttle House aka 2 Throttle 2 House

[@dontyouworryaboutit_]

Throttle House: Tokyo Drift

[@philistine3260]

@@dontyouworryaboutit_ Tokyo "Slide" It was an accident :D

[@jasondonovan6013]

Maybe 2Throttles 2House, Toronto Drift, with them being Canadian.

[@ilya__t]

2 Niche 2 Throttle

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@philistine3260Fast and Furious: Throttle House Premium Edition?

[@DartGoblin-ds4zo]

I can't imagine spending 67k on a Nissan Z

[@joshknutson16]

Yea like 20 other cars I would get instead of that

[@PotatosPotatoes]

Unless it was a Series 1 240Z.

[@mustangmike3830]

Yah seriously, maybe half

[@313soldier313]

Can’t imagine spending 67k on a Nissan period. It’s a Nissan

[@hartsickdisciple]

@@313soldier313 I'd spend $67k on a Nissan before a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. Nissans are generally solid cars. Just don't buy anything with a CVT.

[@wallacegrommet5817]

This should just be the base model, this doesn’t deserve Nismo

[@danmayberry1185]

Reminds me of BMW's fake 'M' designation.

[@TheJohn8765]

@@danmayberry1185 Even the fake M cars are pretty good, tho. This is just "meh".

[@danmayberry1185]

@@TheJohn8765 I will pay you good money to re-badge one of these, "NISMEH" 😄

[@LafemmebearMusic]

@@danmayberry1185have you ever driven one? I’ve driven this nismo and got back in my m sport x3 with the suspension msport dampers and drove the mountains in Napa and thought… this suv shouldn’t feel so close to that z… that’s my real life take with real life experience with both vehicles.

[@GS-zc4sk]

....@ $40k tops

[@flyfishaholic]

Throttle House has definitely earned my respect, truthful opinions regardless of who’s lent them the car. Kudos guys!

[@lordbuntcake]

Charging 60k+ for a 20 year old platform is wild.

[@mels_life1]

Agreed. I don’t think the platform being great is honestly an excuse that holds up at this point either, it’s truly sad honestly.

[@PQ28120]

Fair, but gotta apply the same thought to the mustang. Except new mustang has less power.

[@RelaxAndSmokeMeth]

it's diabolical

[@douhgremuro150]

Couldn't be more wrong 😌​@@PQ28120

[@JustN0pe3]

Idk the Charger/Challenger is based off a 80-90ish Benz chassis. The Hellcat cost way more.

[@TwistedSXS]

That’s ridiculously expensive wow. Some god cop bad cop in this one. James really trying to be invited to the next Nissan reveal and Thomas calling a spade a spade. Love it.

[@OriginalTrev]

I wonder if GPS would help Thomas find an apex?

[@skaughtmc6591]

And drifting when they signed paperwork not to. Thomas definitely isn’t getting that invite. :)

[@gangsterbroccoli]

@@skaughtmc6591wild how nissan out of all companies won’t allow drifting.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@OriginalTrevwell it definitely work well with GPS.

[@HeliRy]

It’s like Nissan has been plodding around tuner car forums like some teenager with no sense of how car valuations work. They slap a few spicy stickers on it, bump the power a little… and then think it’s suddenly worth an extra $15,000.

[@TheJohn8765]

Yah, seems like a tune and a few suspension mods would do the same and cost 5K.

[@j.a.g.8689]

And the NPCs buy it

[@JustN0pe3]

If Nissan doesn't hard lock the ECU like Toyota/BMW did with the Supra, Nissa is good. I bought my VA STi with that tuning road block in mind. I liked a lot of what the Supra offered, I was not a fan of having to mail order my car's ECU to a forgin (at the time) country just to tune my car. The tuning crowd isn't just teenagers. I grew up with imports in the late 90s to early 2000s. BTW throwing a supercharger on a V8 needs tuning. Every car that's ever been made fast has needed tuning to make real gains from the mods. Guess you've never seen a dyno after modding a car before. Enjoy yelling at the sky buddy.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

Renault group are living in the Covid heydays still. Like they said, nobody is buying this for $70K when there are much, much better cars at or around that price.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@@JustN0pe3 Yeah, that's all BMW - BMW tuners have been dealing with that s**t for nearly 20 years now - not that Toyota aren't guilty too - but BMW engine, BMW ECU, and BMW ethos.

[@brosef7935]

I had planned to buy a 2024 Z. I have purchased 3 different Nissan Models in the past, so I would call myself loyal….until now. The Z prices are too high, the financing to buy is also high but to lease is stupidly high. My credit is 800+ and Nissan tried to get me to lease at MSRP with an equivalent Money Factor at 12% APR. So I went Mustang GT 5.0 Premium with Recaros, Brembos, & Performance Package. I guess Nissan doesn’t want to sell cars or retain loyal customers. I watched this review, seeing if I had made a mistake going with the Mustang over the Z. I got my answer, which is I made the right decision by going Mustang.

[@ComptechTypeS]

Mazda gave me 2.9% for my 3 Turbo with a credit rating of 800+. I would feel more than insulted if I was quoted 12%. Wow.

[@Elzettoloco]

Same problem here, have my Z since 13 years - Nissan doesen‘t even bring it to europe. My next shot is at a GT350

[@BPF80MCar-vi1pg]

Shouldve got an m2

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@BPF80MCar-vi1pgor even 2007 BMW M3.

[@denniss4951]

I'd rather have this car than another Mustang. Honestly. Plus this car not only looks better than a new Mustang.

[@alargefarva4274]

1:58 “four twenny maann” had me in stitches

[@NigelShelley]

Appreciation can make a day, even change a life. Your willingness to put it into words is all that is necessary.

[@kruck96]

That’s base model C8 money 🤣

[@nick2128]

For long term I’d rather have this than a base model c8 stingray

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Im sure your 2001 civic will do you just fine ​@nick2128

[@leviathan5207]

@@nick2128 Youd rather eat a bucket of rusty nails, than a three course meal prepared by a renowned chef? Damn.... Japo fans do be tripping istg

[@alalal123421]

totally different class of car

[@BigHeadClan]

C8 starts a hair under 90K here in Canada. 88k

[@Marc.Google]

11:23 the humor, the technical expertise, the test track and lap times, topped off with fantastic cinematography and sound 🔥 better car coverage does not exist! Thank you team TH, don’t ever stop.

[@vpanday1977]

Wrong! Jason Cammisa’s videos are better, but only in aesthetic and music value, which is subjective. This is still amazingly high quality for a married couple team, and the fact that they seem to actually get along is great. I’m glad Canada allows same-sex marriage, otherwise we wouldn’t have these two guys.

[@LafemmebearMusic]

@@vpanday1977weird comment

[@joseolarte7424]

@@vpanday1977jason can get a little corny at times with his german impersonation and his goofy acting on screen sometimes but i would say as far as youtube automotive content it’s really only Hagerty and TH by a mile

[@jonboy602]

@@vpanday1977 Did you use to be funny, back in the 90s?

[@vpanday1977]

@@jonboy602Huh?

[@BrennanLetkeman]

man, that means they're basically in the same ballpark as a used GT-R

[@TheJohn8765]

God, you're mostly right. Imagine forgoing a Gt-R for that thing... lol!

[@Xi-op7gg]

First generation GTR with 480 hp, sure. If you want a 2017+ GTR after the facelift, you are looking at 110-120K CAD.

[@h3ck774]

@@Xi-op7gg Still under 100k US which when your above 70-75k USD your in the 70-100k price range that 10-15k isnt really ever a difference maker for people buying a 70k sports car 15k more on the loan is jackshit

[@Xi-op7gg]

@@h3ck774 Might be different in the US. The GTR is a much rarer car in Canada because we just don’t have as many people. A slightly used Z is half the price of a EBA GTR. New GTR prices have skyrocketed the last couple of years, so anything 2017+ is holding value very well.

[@overv434]

@@TheJohn8765your getting a 2010 GTR for 60k those have so many issues and not much faster then the Z

[@John_Hoover]

The Nissan Z - the car I completely forget even exists.

[@hartsickdisciple]

Your loss

[@John_Hoover]

Na, not when there’s better cars to think about. $67k? GTFOH.

[@SrKinko]

I have still yet to see one in person

[@mels_life1]

@@hartsickdiscipleloss? It’s literally one of the most disappointing cars to have come out in the last 10 years

[@mels_life1]

@@SrKinko because nobody is genuinely stupid enough to buy one at the prices they’re asking… Dustin Williams sold his FBO Proto Z for $41,000!! He said nobody wanted to buy it, not even dealers, he had to sell it at a carmax.

[@MrDavekov]

I have seen exactly one Z so far. My first reaction was "about time" and my second reaction was "wow it already looks old."

[@eliteboss818]

I’ve seen more CYBERTRUCKS than I have the Nissan Z.

[@BayAreaRushHour]

I still have yet to see a Z, and I really thought the base one would be enough of a deal to do well, but I’ve seen way more Toyota supras which if I’m not mistaken is more expensive.

[@KingCast65]

Yeah I want to love it but I just like it. And sentimentality doesn't cut it for this kind of dough.

[@vvevvevvvv]

First, it does not look old. Second, you have no taste, obviously.

[@seethruhead7119]

as a Z enthusiast I wish this car was a lot better, and a lot cheaper. Too many issues to fix in the aftermarket IMO

[@z-ro34]

Lol that's because you leave your car stock 😂(found you😂😂😂)

[@raneer_6567]

To be fair, who buys a Z and leaves it stock? That's like buying a muscle car and leaving it stock. The issue to me with this car is that it's way too expensive. The issues with this car can easily be fixed with the aftermarket, but at this price of a car, you would want it to start out cheaper so you have money left over for the aftermarket.

[@tbunreall]

@@raneer_6567 Most modern performance cars are better left stock unless you're spending massive amounts of money on it

[@unclelive6918]

Go get a civic

[@ChrisPBacon9]

​@@raneer_6567if I'm spending almost 70k on a car i shouldnt feel the NEED to upgrade stuff on it for at least a few years considering its already an upgraded version of another car

[@chaabanimouaffak6295]

kudos to james for scoring in the season opener for liverpool and uploading this video in the same day. Legend

[@ianlatham2975]

Good to hear Thomas not holding back!

[@geogmz8277]

This is the car that finally got people looking at Nissan again with an interested eye! And they completely blew it by charging 20k more than the previous generation..

[@JViello]

I'm a certified Nissan "dude". Had everything from original z cars to Maximas...my avatar is my turbocharged Sentra SE-R making almost 500hp. I was ALL about the Nismo Z and waited for it to hit the streets. When I walked into the dealership, sitting there was "my" car. White with black/red accents Nismo. I was in love. The salesman walked up and I said "I'll take it, what's sticker?" He said $72,XXX.00 + dealer markup, doc fees etc. The blood went out of my face and I said something like "I've owned and raced Nissans for 35 years. If you think for one second I'm that stupid or willing to spend what used to be R35 money for a Z you're as crazy as the people who priced this thing. Good luck selling it. Call me when it's a leftover and you're trying to dump it to clear inventory...." I walked out shaking my head wondering what planet I landed on. It's on the old (Granted updated.) 370z chassis, borrowed the engine that's already developed and produced for the Infiniti Q50/60...Where's the expense unique to this car pushing the price that high? WTF Nissan!

[@static7985]

you are the exact kind of customer a car company should strive to never lose, yet they did so quickly. i am baffled that 72k wasnt even the out the door sticker; that there was yet more fees on top of that. insane.

[@ShenmueAtheist]

Nissan dealerships are among the worst there is. Theyre very slimy and love to play games. I actually had a sales manager tried locking me on his office after test driving a 370z when those first came out. I told him I wasn't interested and he pretty much said I had to buy it because they let me test drive it. I finally told him I was going to call the cops for kidnapping if he didn't let me leave, and he backed off real quick after that. I was overjoyed when that dealership went bankrupt in 2009.

[@LoneRanger22]

Pretty sure he didn't care about what you had to say and went about his day? Lol

[@CritCommanda]

One of the nicest cars that no one will buy cause at that price there's much better choices.

[@ChrisPBacon9]

Yep. I cant imagine spending Dark Horse money to get beat by a previous gen Mustang GT 😬😬😬 and then theres the base z getting smoked by the gr86 with half the hp lol

[@CritCommanda]

@@ChrisPBacon9 Nissan's not really known for reliable engines and transmissions either

[@StephenDavidson5359]

What Nissan should do: A $30k FR, with 250hp called Silvia. A $40k Z with as much NA hp as they can squeeze out of that V6. A $50k stripped out, track focused NA version called Nismo. And a $60k, 500 plus HP twin turbo. All of them with a manual option. What they actually do….

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

the vr30 doesnt have any NA power. they would need to make something new. or an NA version of the GTR engine.

[@yuriabmxr]

Ok, but the stripped out track one should be the $40k one.

[@slothpatronus2704]

it's 2024, there simply will not be any truly cheap sports cars anymore. Even the gt86 cost 25,600 at release back in 2012 which, adjusted for inflation, is roughly 35k today. Modern cars also have a ton more legislation and safety systems that they have to take into account - all of which bumps the price up. You are delusional if you think there is a genuine opportunity for car manufacturers to make a profit doing the R&D, designing and building a $30k two seater sports car today. Cars aren't an extension of the average person's personality anymore. Most people want an appliance that gets them from point A to point B and the less they have to interact with it, the better.

[@yuriabmxr]

@@slothpatronus2704 I said $30k not $40k so don't put words in my mouth to try and make your point. Even now, $40k is definitely not "truly cheap" and the lack of demand is bringing prices down on lot of things back down. Just saying "adjusted for inflation" and paying whatever is totally unreasonable and a terrible financial decision to boot. I bought my 2017 BRZ Performance new for $25k , which was way below MSRP, because like now, demand was very low in 2017. I was test driving Camaro SS 1LE's for $34K at the time, which was $12k below msrp. Nothing has changed with regards to technology, safety, legislation, performance, or anything else since then other than price inflation. You are acting as if I was comparing this turd of an overpriced Nissan to a 69 Camaro lol

[@slothpatronus2704]

@@yuriabmxr Sorry, I forgot that over half of Americans have a literacy grade blow that of a sixth grader, I shouldn't have used that many numbers.

[@scottyd0530]

Although I don't agree that the Nismo Z looks better than the Supra, because I'm stubborn and an MkV enthusiast, the updated look on the Nismo does look incredible. That rear end looks amazing, and I already thought the rear on the non Nismo looked great.

[@seegee9]

Aesthetics are subjective but i personally think the new supra looks like what a 13 year old thinkd a sports car should look like. Looks aside I think the supra is a better car though

[@J3wFro69]

I feel like I'm going crazy when I tell people I think this thing is ugly as hell lol

[@TheJohn8765]

I still don't like the looks on the Supra but the Z looks like it was designed by a committee. It's a reimagined Datsun but with less pep, to my eye.

[@kbhoioejma]

I also personally think the Supra looks better. The z is more subtle. And honestly will age more gracefully. The Supra is a bit aggressive

[@chrisgarret3285]

Looks better than the Supra? Hell no!

[@alf2633]

If this thing weighed under 3400 lbs, had a DCT or a manual and made at least 450hp it would have been a legend.

[@djivan831]

Exactly!!!

[@skip741x3]

the sad part is, those things were ALL doable... nissan just cut corners ...

[@cbotten106]

And if pigs could fly....

[@rattlehead999]

3300lbs/1500kg, 400-450hp, 45k usd

[@chriskni2821]

Crazy money for a Nissan

[@mattydale8122]

the fact i've only seen one of these on the road since they came out tells me everything i need to know about them

[@BrandinooWOW]

"we weren't invited to the launch :(" I WONDER WHY

[@PeefMidgar]

They've gone at the likes of Lambo, Ferrari and Mercedes and still get cars from them..Nissan are just a bunch of petty pricks.

[@stephenhodge6441]

Is it because Nissan knows their car sucks? Because it seems that way...

[@notthere72]

Killian Experience?!

[@keynesianeconomics4113]

@@stephenhodge6441 It doesn't suck; it's just not amazing.

[@thessaloniousbadonkious]

Nissan is so, so good at making sports cars...that are amazing deals later. The VQ/VR engines are so good for modification, and the older platforms have SO much aftermarket support; you guys nailed it with the "three owners" of the original video. Brand new, there's just way too much competition. Few years (or more) down the line, and it becomes a LOT more compelling as a platform to add power, stiffness, grip, etc.

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

VR30 is old already. and the Q60 looks way better than this and has AWD. they could have made a new NA platform for this Z in the 350hp range. or a single turbo.

[@redlion145]

It's hard to make that argument when no one is buying them new. I mean, what sort of used stock can you expect in 5-10 years if no one is buying these things now? At that point, every example that comes up for sale will have been garage-kept, original tires, less than 10k km/mi, etc, etc.

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

@@redlion145 what argument? that nissan should have made a new engine platform for it?

[@redlion145]

@@ISLAMICSTORIES13 I was referring to this part of the original post: "Nissan is so, so good at making sports cars...that are amazing deals later."

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

​@@redlion145 oh yeah you are right. usually with the infinitis luxury people with bad credit buy them new but those ppl can get benz/bmw now bc they approve anyone these days. and the prior Zs sold super well too. these nissan zs will not be everywhere in 10 years like the VQs are

[@calebbrown2983]

If it was 500 pounds lighter and $10k cheaper, it would be a proper predecessor to the 370 z

[@MrHungrySimon]

*successor

[@EdwoodCA]

@@MrHungrySimon Maybe, postdecessor?

[@u3o813]

I LOVE how this car looks

[@akafxde7245]

The price is just that they’re asking for a $35,000 donation out of the kindness of your heart on top of the price of the car

[@CruiseControl1]

I drove the new Z when it came out and I really wanted it to be good. I owned a 76 280z and a 79 280zx and love the looks of this new Z. Unfortunately that’s where the love stops for me. It drives more like a GT car than a sports car. I will stick with the old Z’s.

[@AllenPartridge-b1p]

A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: we did it ourselves.

[@GabrielFowler-v3h]

The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen, nor touched... but are felt in the heart.

[@DuncanLouis]

With courage you will dare to take risks, have the strength to be compassionate, and the wisdom to be humble. Courage is the foundation of integrity.

[@JoeBruin1999]

Had an Infiniti G37x. Man I really miss it. Should have kept it. Everything worked. For those who don't know, it's nearly the same engine as the Nissan 370Z. But stretched out with 4 doors, so you can roll with friends. It's the more adult and super luxury Z. All leather everywhere. The entire dash would move automatically for easy ingress and egress!! Most cars still don't have that. That alone really spoiled me for all future "regular" cars. Mine was a rarity. The x at the end means something very kewl. Rear biased, ALL WHEEL DRIVE. Crazy good grip for a SEDAN. No snow tires required. If I found a clean one again, I'd get another. That was the last great Nissan/Infiniti engine! Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[@jacquesc3166]

When did you sell that? Been daily driving a '13 G37xS sedan since Oct 2016. Factory forged Enkei 18's for the Winter, flow formed Enkei 19's (Raijin) for the rest of the year up here in Eastern ON, Canada. 203K km on the clock, aFe drop-in filters, Q300 exhaust, never use the paddles, rusted out subframes but no squeaks or rattles whatsoever, Krown treatment every year, frame rails still baked in Krown oil. Engine & trans still as they were in 2016.

[@JoeBruin1999]

@@jacquesc3166 Mine was a 2010. Sold in 2016 with only 75k on the odometer. It was red. I had an aftermarket Nismo spoiler. Had it specially fabricated to fit the G37x. It looked like it came factory stock with that spoiler! The fab guy did a great job. But it was a magnet for cops & tickets. Just stood out too much. Car guys would always come up and talk to me everywhere!

[@douchebag9299]

2013 Infiniti g37x was and is still one of the best infinitis ever made, it was the last one with a German suspension and was competing with the bmw 3 series at the time. Had one and it got totaled about a year ago, the new infinitis aren’t the same as it. That was a perfect sports sedan that handled great.

[@SueBobChicVid]

The closing line... good.

[@amanasd26]

god tier

[@pkt1213]

1:07 the front of the new mustang looks like a lego mustang.

[@KamaGivson]

Gratitude is the fairest blossom which springs from the soul.

[@UnitiveWILLIAM24]

I dont know man, I love Z’s and love this thing, even if it’s not the best. I hope Nissan proves everyone wrong and updates this with performance thats undeniable. So much heritage in the Z name.

[@Benjii002]

If I had unlimited money, I'd buy one, RB swap it with a 6speed manual, then drift it round Nissans HQ with a sign on top saying, "this is so what you should have done"

[@akush42069]

RB is 💩

[@hansporras3364]

67k M2 > Nismo Z Integra Type S > Nismo Z Audi S3 > Nismo Z GR Supra > Nismo Z

[@waynep1042]

M240i > Nismo Z lol

[@doctorscumbag4059]

Shh the Nissan fans will hear you😂

[@floggyWM1]

IS500 > Nismo Z m340i > Nismo Z

[@Bad_Company666]

You left out Audi RS3, S5, Mustang GT Premium, Lexus IS 500 and about another 10 cars lmao……

[@meissiah]

The Nismo Edition is where Nissan charges extra for the engineering that should have gone into if from the outset.

[@MonroeClement]

A glittering gem is not enough.

[@synapticbit]

I can honestly say that this nismo z is actually giving me 280z vibes with that spoiler and the general shape of the body.

[@waltertomashefsky2682]

I can remember shopping for a 240 Z back in the early 70s. They weren’t 66, they weren’t 36, they were 3.6. And quite a bit nicer looking too I would say.

[@josephk6136]

OK boomer.

[@h3ck774]

In 1972 3600$ was worth the same as 27,000$ today so yea the Z is almost 2.5x more expensive than it was for you lol

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

​@@josephk6136 Meanwhile in zoomer land - "I think can afford an electric scooter, but I will have to max out my credit card"

[@PQ28120]

@@waltertomashefsky2682 in 93 z's were in the 30k range. They haven't been cheap for 40 years

[@ZackNakazora1]

Historical the Z has never been the logical performance bargain.... It's exactly what it always has been and if you buy one and love it. Kudos. Let's hope Nissan doesn't track your driving habits and deny your warranty if you blow up for exceeding the speed limit

[@TheBajamin]

They tried to deny people on the 2003 lemon synchros. They did that for over a year before they were forced to fix them. Let’s not pretend this is a new issue.

[@TheeVande]

I didn't realize how poorly it's selling until James said they're not selling. I legitimately don't know if I've seen one on the road!

[@TeresaLambert-f6x]

There is no better feeling than staring at a wall with closed eyes.

[@bmwadam8642]

Can confirm they are discounting these, at least in Alberta. Some have been sitting since winter and with the lower profits that Nissan dealers are making the discounts will only increase.

[@danielibarra1618]

The nismo should of been the absolute base for the z

[@unclelive6918]

Keep dreaming

[@kraenk12]

Should HAVE

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

​@@unclelive6918 keep repeating

[@unclelive6918]

@@user-qy2wf2lt6v dreamer

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

absolutely. the base is just terrible. not worth 50k. at least the mustang has a v8 and a few options for 50k. Q60 S awd is literally a better AWD version of this Z.

[@samaraiza]

You’d think that by recycling an old platform they’d be able to keep these nismos at $48k. It’d be an amazing car at $48k with a manual option. …but $60k+… As a previous Z owner, this doesn’t properly scratch the itch I’ve had. Supra isn’t doing it either. Maybe the next MR2? Can Mitsubishi or Mazda enter the chat again?

[@jferg5220]

Funny thing is, I’m a sales person at a Nissan dealer. Any random person commenting/complimenting the car who then asks the price, when they find out they’re always like “wow that’s a great price” yet they sit in show rooms collecting dust😂

[@ruzaroos]

Comedy gold for me was when my local Nissan dealer got one last year and had a $20K dealer markup on it so the window sticker said $89,900 😂😂😂 Still sitting there of course even without the markup.

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

44k base price isnt bad but the base model is garbage. this nismo should be the base.

[@Fco_Arana]

I suppose once they look at what else they can get for the money it no longer looks like a deal

[@ordinaryjoe2247]

It IS a great price ... for the dealer.

[@theimpaler2317]

They nailed the back end, with the stop lights and the shape of the trunk and so on! The front though, no so much, the headlights look like my 3 year old nephew drew those on

[@TexasArmedillo]

drone footage for the lap time would be sick

[@ADeleven]

Thomas is spoiled lol however the price is actually outrageous!

[@bitcoinworld6288]

These will depreciate quickly! Can't wait!

[@nightowl3582]

These new Z's have been out for what, like two years? I've seen one in person, and that was very recently. They're like unicorns.

[@floggyWM1]

cuz nobody is dumb enough to pay that much money when there are better options available.

[@michaelg87]

​@@floggyWM1 For the money you can just get an M2 or a Supra

[@sander.n]

I've never seen one in person... not even park outside the dealership

[@rubberwoody]

theyve sold less than 5000 since it came out in late 2022

[@benmclean2291]

Totally agree that the performance levels and lap time of the NISMO should be where the standard Z sits. And I’m a Nissan fan.

[@plugjanis]

67k?!?!?!! WTF! Wow, they have lost their minds! GR8 video fellas! Always enjoy what y’all do! Video recommendation: Updates GMC 1509 AT4 (3.0 diesel or gas). Thanks again!

[@ralphsmallblock4367]

The 370Z Nismo v2 6 speed manual transmission was just right.

[@cbotten106]

Goldilocks would approve of this comment.

[@curtiswilson3569]

Who would ever buy this at that price. Its a 45k car at most competing with many better vehicles. -

[@unclelive6918]

Dreamer

[@marioaguirre3571]

Which vehicles? A c8 or M2? This car is better than the new mustang, and there’s no more camaro or chatger. Supra?

[@MiguelDS5547]

​@@marioaguirre3571the Supra is the better car in all aspects, maybe the Z exterior looks better but that's it.

[@physiomtb]

@@marioaguirre3571bruh 718 cayman is cheaper than this

[@tbunreall]

@@marioaguirre3571 It was barely faster than the civic type r which is a better car in every way except power, which doesnt even seem to make much of a difference

[@smward1126]

If this was 52-55k and the performance was 40-44k this would be killer

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

the performance is 48k where i am. and its so barebones it kinda sucks. would take an m240i or mustang or a pay a lil more for a Supra. the q60 awd is also alot better than this Z

[@oliverwange8264]

@@ISLAMICSTORIES13I've seen them (Performance) already listed for 39 to 41k used with under 1k miles on the odometer lol. Nissan USA has the Performance listed at 52k for starting price. Is that a dealer level discount or used in your area for 48K?

[@ltjorge16]

Another great video honestly you guys are killing it!

[@vertrox3435]

1:26 “no one’s buying it” YEAH. BC ITS SUPPOSED TO BE AN “”AFFORDABLE”” SPORTS CAR. BUT EVEN THE REGULAR ONE IS $40k-$50k!!! SPORTS CARS ARENT SELLING BC THEYRE TOO GODDAMN EXPENSIVE

[@redlion145]

BRZ/86 and MX-5/Miat are still around. They sell well, and they're fun. And they're half the cost of a Z.

[@rubberwoody]

when i went to check out a Z in late 2023 the mid trim manual one they had on the lot was marked up to 63k....non nismo. I bought a CT4V BW

[@redlion145]

@@rubberwoody You did good. That kind of money for a Z is ridiculous, and you'll get more use out of the caddy. I've heard great things about CT4s and CT5s. I'd have to stretch my budget to get there, so I haven't bothered to test drive either, but every reviewer loves the BW models.

[@rubberwoody]

@@redlion145 I would recommend a used "base model" CT4V BW then. The only thing you miss out on with the base model is maybe cooled seats, a HUD, and a sunroof (and 2022s dont have a blackwing badge). Still more equipment than a nismo Z, and theyre selling lightly used for about 55k

[@acerimmer8338]

"It's a Niche-an Z." 🤣

[@Trench_j]

Honestly man I was looking for a new car but these prices are wild. Ended up just getting a 2017 RS7 performance for about 40k, Apple car play upgrade and I couldn’t be happier.

[@RelaxAndSmokeMeth]

RIP

[@PQ28120]

@@Trench_j 🙄

[@Trench_j]

@@PQ28120 problem for you?

[@MattTrefon]

I literally have never seen the new z, not even once since the release lol. Really shows how well these are selling!

[@rubberwoody]

theyve sold about 4063 as of december 2023, probably around 5000 or so by now

[@nitzerebbhead]

In the late 80s and in the 90s I love the looks of the Nissan Maxima and the 300Z. Right now, there is nothing on this earth or in the heavens that would convince me to buy a Nissan product of any kind.

[@tlf361]

I went into a dealer to buy one and they wouldn't even let me look on the inside, lmao.

[@guywebster8018]

All jokes aside this is called proper journalism. Something North America is seriously lacking at the moment.

[@hedonismbot3274]

*the world is lacking.

[@vipe650r]

Certainly is a good looking thing.

[@BurkeFielding]

The most important thing is transforming our minds, for a new way of thinking, a new outlook: we should strive to develop a new inner world.

[@ShonnDaylee]

When he said "It's 420 maaaan", I felt that.

[@natesussman9865]

Just for reference, a 1996 base model 300zx started at roughly $30,000 at MSRP (adjusting for inflation, about $75,000 today), with the 300zx turbo starting at about $44,000 ($88,000 adjusted for today).

[@AmosDohms]

Back then it was actually good value, now it's not. Even if it's a lot cheaper when factoring inflation in.

[@kraenk12]

That math makes absolutely no sense

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

300zx was a high tech car for that era. this is using an engine from the q50 which has been out for 8 years already.

[@rubberwoody]

@@kraenk12 it doesn't because it is wrong. a 1995 300zx twin turbo was 35,399. Adjusted for inflation that is $70,842 today. About 3000 more than this thing is going for without dealer markups. However, the Z32 was competing with Porsches and ferraris back then. This thing can barely compete with a $33,000 Elantra N

[@atmartens]

The issue is the price. How did they get to this price? If it’s based on a previous platform it should’ve been a lot more affordable. Not 30K, but heck 40-55K. At that price I’m going with a Integra Type S.

[@NiSE_Rafter]

Nissan keeps making this mistake... Nobody wants to pay a premium on a dated platform regardless of how fun it is. The GTR prices nearer to the end of its production were also insane for what it was.

[@PQ28120]

The Nissan z is the epitome of what every enthusiast asked for and is going to adore once it's not in production. 400 HP rwd manual v6tt very tuneable and starts at 43k right now. Performance with the LSD will be able to be had under MSRP if not already in high 40s and at that price point it is very competitive.

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

the performance model is competitive under MSRP at like 44k but not at 50k where it it right now. only 2023 used models are at low 40s. and the base model is just unbuyable

[@pageophile]

Perfect ending James!

[@m.newman7722]

I am still looking to see my first Nissan Z on the road here in Southern California. Since its introduction, I have yet to see one. Is it fake news? Is it a rumor given life via VR? I bought a bottle of wine to celebrate my first sighting. It is turning into vinegar waiting to be opened. Great review on vaporware. So, now there is a Nissan Z and a more expensive Nismo upgrade, neither one seen on the road. Endangered species are seen more often than the new Z. What gives? There are 44 new Z's within a 50 mile radius of my home for sale at dealers, many marked down and the majority are in just two colors, grey or black. There is a $13-$15,000 difference or so between the Nismo and base Z's, some more so. A chunk of change for an extra 20 horsepower and a few suspension goodies, interior goodies and pin striping. I may go to my grave never having seen a Z on the road in the metal. Maybe I will drop by a Nissan dealership to see one, but the Nissan dealership down the street from me, closed up shop more than a year ago and is now being turned into a Toyota dealership. Maybe a day trip? Oh, I forgot about taxes, license and misc. charges. Getting close to $80,000 for a fully specked out model. I feel a "nope" coming on. Even with a $5,000 discount and presently the cost of financing with great credit, this is one expensive vehicle for the great majority of people out there. Too bad, but at these prices, even used Z's in the future, will be like hen's teeth.

[@andrewpotito4114]

What I get from you guys is that there is no soul in this car. I picked up a Abarth 124 spider partly because of you. A car no one wanted new but man it has so much soul and character. Its not much money now and is roudy fun.

[@arsilightshd-arsenalvideos9736]

how’s the maintenance sir😂

[@kraenk12]

@@arsilightshd-arsenalvideos9736it’s a Miata underneath

[@andrewpotito4114]

Just basic oil changes so far, but the 1.4 liter motor with fresh oil has proven to last.The same motor is in many cars. The rest of the car is Mazda, so there you go.😊

[@nicholastotoro7721]

This should have been the standard Z.

[@faheemabbas3965]

This will be the last generation of Z due to low sales, I can feel it.

[@ordinaryjoe2247]

I'm sure it will be the typical excuse. People don't want to buy sports cars! No, people don't want to buy what you've decided to offer as a sports car.

[@rubberwoody]

they'd sell more if they made more.

[@kaileysweeney4240]

I’m glad it exists. Nissan missed out with no manual, pricing the Nismo much higher than the Supra GR and they gotta fix those few interior quality bits, work out the suspension and it’s a good sports car. It’s like, it came out half baked.

[@pbmcgme176]

As a long time Z owner/enthusiast, this is where it ends. A 22 y/o platform, literally, with a ridiculous price tag to boot. I believe Nissan thought they had this in the bag only to be heavily disappointed. I guarantee they will be heavily discounted. Some pros include the front end design of the Nismo version. The Nismo is the easily the best looking version. The regular one just looks strange in the front and isn't cohesive like the Nismo. How there is no manual version is wild, especially when the automatic is nothing to write home about. But the price is just so far out there that I can easily just forget this car....post COVID pricing or not.

[@gabrielriley2388]

Plus just 20 more horsepower, yet they had to make it auto only so it could produce better lap times. 🥴

[@Fluterra]

Too little, too late

[@thestoik5440]

Aint nobody paying $76k for a nissan

[@floggyWM1]

in 2010 Z nismo was 39k, that equals to 56k today.76k is way over priced, nissan is smoking crack.

[@conneryates5073]

First 2 minutes and I’ve sat in one of those and I can’t fit and I’m 5’11 so I’m a bit over average height I would have to change the seats because I can’t fit at all

[@coflyer2949]

I’m 6’4” and the normal model fit me way better than most sports cars

[@vipe650r]

Wow! That's crazy to not be able to fit. I'm starting to wonder if they want to sell this car at all.

[@fivepotfury1132]

Damn how wide are you?

[@conneryates5073]

I’m skinny and I still can’t fit

[@conneryates5073]

I only weight like 205

[@jonkroehler5435]

This car is so much better in yellow and in the sport trim. 400 horsepower for $45K(ish) is a way better price point, especially when equipped with a manual. We really enjoy ours, but the prices get crazy as you increase trims. The stock tires could use more grip, and the paint is really thin, but it is a blast to drive and gets tons of attention. We are very happy with our ownership experience so far.

[@bryy2053]

This car looks friggn fantastic

[@mikehagmaier3949]

@9:22 - James thinking “well, we won’t EVER be invited to ANY Nissan press days now…”

[@craiganderson8569]

This car should be 40-45 grand, U.S. The regular Z should be 35 grand. It's a total miss by Nissan.

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

I agree. 35 would sell like hotcakes. right now its the same price as a q60 and you dont get any luxury or awd. and the q60 looks much better.

[@ClaireAnthony-c7k]

You teach best what you most need to learn.

[@Edwxrdly]

The funniest part about the new Z is that it’s been on sale for nearly 10 years now in the form of the Q50/Q60 red sport

[@ISLAMICSTORIES13]

facts. and honestly the q60 looks better. and has awd.

[@JoyceDavid-t5h]

Stop waiting for exceptional things to just happen.

[@coreylucas5997]

A former co worker got a mustang GT, Matt black the paint, match Matt the wheels, put a supercharger kit on it has 800 rear horsepower with a muffler delete super loud, paid 65 grand total